The truth about the Yakuza and Asian gangs part 1

For the next three weeks I will be disconnected from the internet and all digital means of communications so instead of summarizing the week’s news, I will be presenting deep background knowledge on the Yakuza and Asian gangs.

The first thing one needs to know about the Yakuza and the triads is that they are not crime gangs as defined in the West. The Yakuza are deeply connected to Shinto, the Emperor and Japan’s mysterious and ancient minority peoples.

The Yakuza are partially descended from refugee followers of Mozi who fled heavy persecution by the first emperor of China in 200 BC. They settled in Kyushu and along the South-West coast of Japan.

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rafaelneville

First!

Muhahahaha…

hutz
hutz

WOW .Stay safe Ben . We will hold down the fort .lol

rafaelneville

Well, I must say, I find it very interesting the fact that lately Benji isn’t saying much on weekly updates on weekly events.

History and General Info is always welcome, knowledge is delicious, but I kind-o-miss the alternative point of view from the falseymedia.

Any how, it could be very well he is taking vacations, like any other human being on earth.
Or maybe he is organizing something big.
Or maybe he is being pressured to not to speak out o disclose any sensible info to the public.
Tough when that is requested, he usually mentions the fact that there has been a request made, so I guess this option selfdestroys itself.

Anyway, is anyone buying Gold or Silver?

I bought some weeks ago 4 Grams of Gold and 3 silver coins of one ounce. Not that I couldn’t buy more, but I needed the rest of the fiat paper debt, to survive.

I’m waiting for a substancial amount of money that I’m about to recive in August, and I’m thinking in going directly to the factory and picking it up with some friends.

Though I’ve to check cause, Gold in Spain for example, is by law tax extempt, though Silver isn’t.
In the Canary Islands in the other hand the tax is different is way lower just 4% or 6%, instead of the newly risen from 16% to 18% from mainland Iberian Peninsula.
I wonder if Silver is contemplated as a luxury item…
Cause in that case the tax would be the same as the standard.
I’m currently on vacations in the canaries (I’m a local, I was born here, just visiting my father).

I read a lot about Gold, Silver, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, the Dollar and its real value, the fall of the main currencies.
It seems as buying precious metals is the thing.

For the still doubtful some good links, yet there are many many more out there in cyberspace:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/87/362/Debunking_Deflationist_Myths_Scare_Tactics_About_Gold.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/0/499/Tungsten_Filled_Gold_Bars_-_GLD_ETF_WARNING.html

johnq
johnq

Im waiting for Todd to say it !

rafaelneville
getem
getem

Hi Ben & All

I think, as Rafaelneville has just said, Ben hasn’t given us much other than a history lesson again today, possibly because something is coming around the corner which he can’t talk about. I am going to take this as a very positive posting by Ben and go with that.

JJ, thanks for your posting on the last blog dated 19th July, 1.52am. I listened to the Utube video with Alex Collier, and was nothing short of blown away. He is incredible, and I am just so uplifted by what he said! If anyone has not listened to this video, please do yourself a favour and have a listen.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Rafael,

Thanks for the information. It is going to be useful. I wanted to post something that might be important. Below is the message posted on the Wikileaks twitter feed. What you are seeing is the entire message. I am not sure what it means, but it might be why Ben is telling us about the aboriginal people of Japan.

MK
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http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/18785390278
Real change begins Monday in the WashPost. By the years end, a reformation. Lights on. Rats out.
11:57 AM Jul 17th via HTC Peep

maryann
maryann

It must be happening !!!!

patriotkate
patriotkate

I do find this news of Ben retreating mysterious. This, coupled with Christopher Story’s recent minimal communication. The last few weeks, Ben has been real short on substantive updates and long on history. Since the end of May, there’s only been a few real updates from Story and the last one mentioned that the TPTW had tried to kill him and that he had been (maybe still?) quite ill.

Interesting…

hutz
hutz

I am worried about todd

harondaddy
harondaddy

dang!!!!

harondaddy
harondaddy

LOL, I had to do it! 🙂

wbstreck
wbstreck

Stay safe Ben , and you too , Chris Story.Ben stay off the grid and avoid the net trap. We’ll take the history lesson about how Japan has assimilated Shinto,an Hebraic influence, some haunt of an occultic influence, an Emperor, Sammauri, and the development of private police, or gangs for corporate protection and security, (ketsu-mochi).
In America, we are not ever politically setteled because we have a two party system in that both parties are equally corrupt, or immediately corruptible after the election . And self-serving when they win the coin toss ,the hook up with the NWO, The Fed $ printing press Bank and The NWO Wall Street Whores.

hutz
hutz

Shocking video of Illegal Border Crossing into US via Arizona
Posted by Mark Matthews on July 17, 2010 at 11:00pm
Send Message View Mark Matthews’s blog

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu reports that attacks on police and American citizens have increased in the past several months, saying, “It is literally out of control.” For those who may have doubted the Sheriff, have them watch this shocking video. It reveals the extent to which illegals are crossing the border of Arizona on just one smuggling trail.
http://oathkeepers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3512273:BlogPost:624973&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

hutz
hutz

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chrisb
chrisb

I can absolutely verify what Ben has said, The dog,(Marco Cusamanta) was a rice growing dog before we got him at eight weeks. He was also in a gang and was very destructive. He didn’t know the high priestess or the Shinto family but did have some pinto beans at the local Mexican Restaurant. It took us weeks of treatment, mostly shock therapy and chicken strip therapy to turn him around to just be a ninja dog. Yes he kills and attacks but at the home in his spare time mostly just steals shoes and ruins them. rafaelneville, give me your address so the dog can stand outside your house so the money you are about to receive is safe. DO you leave the back door open by chance?By the way, good post on gold and silver as I have touted for some time. Anyhow back to the dog, when Ben said “Next week we will discuss police/yakuza/imperial family relations”, I did get a slight confession from the dog about trying to hump the high priestess. To find out what happened Subscibe to his website for only $7.00 a month. He also excepts Paypal and chicken tenderstrips. OK, I am out of files for history on stuff I could care less about. Could someone send me a new file. They let me out for the day and that could be it for me. So much for the reporting of the FED going down. WHy don’t we talk about Nancy Pelosi’s face. Is that a face …….nevermind. Anyhow at the dog’s request we have been out all day long looking for a black cat as now this Tibetan Mastiff wants to be Italian too. I explained to him that it does not make him bilingual and just wants this black cat. I am not going to let him reads Ben’s update in the future. Okay so how many of you have read something into Ben’s update that something might be happening cause he is not reporting for three weeks… hmmmmmm
Patriotkate….more than three weeks…it has been months and my point is when you run out of sensationalism headlines, what can follow that??? Nothing but garbage in and garbage out. As I have said, there is more information of substance that has come from the people on this blog than from Ben so treat your subscription as a way to meet people of like minds ( if you include the dog, he would be thankful).

hutz
hutz

Greetings and Salutations:
As I’ve said, we are in the funding process now and it is past the point of anyone stopping or stealing or delaying anything. ms. merkel herself discovered how serious it was when she was told that if she interfered or attempted to interfere, she would leave office immediately. It can be done! The ‘ whip’ cracked in the East and traveled unto and through the us with no stops, green lights all the way. Our time for individual celebration is near. Prior to that, you will start to see a sudden change in the economics and unemployment and banking.
Have you noticed this week that two very large banks, all of a sudden, found billions that they had ‘hidden’ somewhere. There is no more hiding money. There have been more changes in the banking system than they have yet to make public. You will be told what changes have happened once the announcements begin. The changes that are upon us with all of this, are so profound as to sound like fantasy right now. I would suggest for all listeners and readers to not be surprised by anything that you hear or see from now on.
In review, the 7 super banks that will handle world banking from now on are online. Many banks have changed ownership which also has not been reported in the news. Things that have passed in Congress are in preperation
First of all, if you believe in God, I suggest that you thank God every day whenever you think about it. ‘Thank yous’ are the currency of Heaven. And the joy and prosperity due to us all is happening as we speak, and is gaining momentum minute by minute and it is absolutely wonderful. If you are agnostic, then thank the physics of the universe because physics dictates the end of entropy. That is the time we have entered in, that’s why it’s called change. We are saying good-bye to the past and stepping into a brave new world. Those who wish to keep the old world and the ways of it, will find themselves very lonely and considered obsolete. Those who do good or treat their neighbors like they themselves want to be treated, the return will be phenomenal.
Only a few strokes of the pen are needed to complete all the work that’s been done over the years. The new system will take effect, the results of which will be first seen as a beginning of funding special projects to do with poverty, the least fortunate of our humanity, ‘our kids and seniors’. Money itself is not an evil thing, what we do with it makes the difference. Whatever we ask for that is of the highest good, we shall receive. Again, be careful what you wish for because you will receive it. This is all in accordance of the laws of the universe.
Anyone paying attention to the news is hearing some unbelievable things right now. As people go through their guts of emotion, I have one question. “What color is God?” This is getting ridiculous. I thought we went through this in the 60s, here we are revisiting those issues again. “Sometimes, it makes me wonder”. It’s time to grow up, people. We’re not doing 1862 again, we ain’t doing the 40s again, we’re stepping into the future. Wars will cease, because you need money to fight wars. Terrorists need money to terrorize. Neither war-like group is getting any money. They’ll have to throw rocks from now on. Trust me, dear reader, within 30 days, this world will not be the same.
Consultations upon request thru this email address. Donations needed and accepted at http://www.paypal.com account 2goforth@safe-mail.net
Love and Kisses,
Poofness and Friends
PS Check out these links:
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml
http://www.curebum.com/206/orgone-energy-orgonite-generators-accumulators/

fmkhan
fmkhan

I got an email from paypal stating that my payments have been suspended.I would like to know why.

hutz
hutz

Napolitano says Bush and Cheney should be indicted.mp4 C-SPAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TosF6Ope53E&feature=player_embedded

hutz
hutz

MAYBE BEN THINK YOUR A SPY

danwyo
danwyo

I think Ben is saying that the Yakuza are the Japanese illuminati. They have been separated from the main stream for several thousand years and the west discriminates against them racially and that would explain why they are not in lock step with their western brethren. They probably consider the rest of us to be quite inferior.

richardterra1
richardterra1

I’ve listened to Matt Simmons talk about the gulf well and it doesn’t make sense. He says the well is miles away from the well head they’ve capped and that the casing is blown out and it’s an empty hole spewing 120,000 barrels a day.

I thought that what we’re looking at on video is the well head attached to the top of the casing on the ocean floor. And that when the rig caught fire and sank that it broke the riser pipe off at the well head damaging it and causing the leak.

He doesn’t do a very good job explaining what his version is. No diagrams are provided and he talks so fast and jumps around so much that he’s very difficult to understand. If it’s such a serious problem then why doesn’t he provide a clear concise presentation of what his theory is so that people can understand it? Because I sure can’t.

lew3
lew3

I’m with you Richard. I didn’t understand Simmons either. Since he is a proponent of peak oil, I’m suspicious of him. Besides I heard that he is (or was) a member of the CFR.

[Most, if not all, of our oil is abiotic oil, which is continuosly being created. It is formed down deep by high pressure and high temperature and is constantly being produced. It flows upward, collecting in reservoirs, where it has traditionally been recovered. Abiotic oil is a subject of intense debate but after reading several pieces I believe that it is real.]

chrisb
chrisb

MK, thanks for your note and after reading JJ’s and others worry that I had disappeared with C. Stiry, I reared my ugly head. Okay I posted a couple things in rant format as is my style. Clearly you are very intuitive as you knew something was up. I came home after visiting a friend who has a maltese. Somehow the dog (Marco Cusamada Ninja Killing Machine) short circuited and smelled the Maltese thingy and somehow thought the Maltese was under my shirt holding a gun to my head. He went into attack mode and got me pretty good so I needed stitches. You were close in your assessment and you can hardly imagine the conversation we went through on the ride to the hospital. He was so shaken up he could hardly keep his eyes on the road. Thanks for the note and JJ, I need a break and I had some family in town who think I am a pastor of a church. This dual life thing has got to go. Lew, stop yelling at me will ya.

g7enn
g7enn

lew3 & richardterra1,

I agree with what your saying vis a vis Simmons. If I remember correctly, he said a nuclear device must be used. With such little justifying information, it felt suspicious to me. I’m glad you two verbalized what I was feeling.

wbstreck
wbstreck

HELP BEN ! AND YA’ALL
I live near the now damned GOM and know that there are over 7,000 oil rigs in the GOM . Their current status I do not know, and either will you be able to get answers. This governemnt and BP is far from being transparent, or , truthful. The Bush Bastards and The Cheney -Monster from Halburton whose defective heart pumps piss, dergulated the safety requiremets for drilling mandated in the GOM. Yep , I can hear them say, we can cut and even lop off corners now. Sonic activated shut off valves,or pertinent High Level EPA review of this first ever, Deepwater-Deep Drill Horizon , scarsely blueprinted oil rig . And it was the first ever, big oil rig assembled on the spot in the GOM. And note that they were punching holesw all over the GOM. Probably failed like Old Faithful scaring the crap out of them and it was full sppeed ahead to another site . We need a proper assessment from someone we can trust, John P. Craven. Note also that there are massive volcanic formations in the GOM and they just about nicked the magma.
HAARP would enable them actually see what lies beneath the floor of the GOM. They knew what they working with all the time. Don’t be fooled. BP and the assholes that own and operate it belong to the American People now. $ for $ and life for life, and that company owes us absolutely tremendous ammounts of money in damages. But when we take over that company we will run it safely, if at all.
Meanwhile, For the sake of our very lives, we better have John Pena Craven advise us on the safety of the 20 million inhabitants that may be in jeopardy from the damage done in the GOM. This is a ultra high priority matter that cannot be trusted to The BP criminal management , or our idiotic impossible, imposter president and his administration of czarist shitheads.

valtony
valtony

Stay safe Ben, do what you need to do and keep us posted whenever it is safe

richardterra1
richardterra1

To lew3,

I think the point that you’re missing is depletion. Regardless of whether oil is biotic or abiotic in origin, the fields, with extremely rare exception, aren’t refilling.

40 years ago we consumed 1 barrel of oil for every one discovered. Now we consume 9 barrels for every one discovered. So unless you think that we’re being lied to about the discoveries over the last 40 years, and I wouldn’t rule that out, then we’re clearly running out of oil.

There are plenty of carbon resources available and the off the shelf technology to turn them into oil. But it would probably be more cost effective and a lot cleaner to switch to a sustainable pollution free renewable energy hydrogen economy for grid electricity and transportation fuel, and leave the carbon resources for materials production feedstock.

Or to leap frog to an aetheric energy economy, provided it’s safe and won’t be misused.

richardterra1
richardterra1

Does anyone really believe that our and a number of other militaries haven’t had deep water subs all over the accident site from just about day one? And that they haven’t verified if there’s an open well bore with casing blown out of it gushing 120,000 barrels a day one? I don’t.

The Simmons story sounds like psyop fear mongering to me. Deliberately obfuscated so that it’s difficult to disprove.

Time will tell how truthful it is.

mbridges
mbridges

Very prescient Charlie Rose interview with Sir James Goldsmith from 16 years ago:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5064665078176641728#

The chickens— Goldsmith spoke of —have now come home to roost; interview of Paul Craig Roberts by Max Keiser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVUVQMUtsM0&feature=player_embedded

kohala889
kohala889

By GOD RTerra, didn’t think we’d be seeing eye to eye this soon: “leap frog to an aetheric energy…” It’s definitely the future of energy, brother and not that far off. Zero point energy, radiant energy, whatever you want to call it. The same stuff Tesla developed a century ago but JP Morgan pulled out his financing because it can’t be metered for profit.

The technology’s being used in secret by the govt but they won’t release it because it would seriously upset their applecart. So they’ve issued “national security letters” to anyone who even thinks about trying to sell such a free energy device. You can however get the plans to build your own. Let’s hope this country can beat the Chinese in releasing the suppressed tech. It would be great for the economy.

kohala889
kohala889

Thanks to Hutz for this info on Tesla and radiant energy.
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml

bevdally
bevdally

There’s some very good info on the GOM spill put together by James Fox. The latest interview on The Veritas Show, in the first section that does’nt require membership, is well worth listening to. Also any youtube videos by jamescfox.

I’m sure there’s huge amounts of info being kept from us. The scariest is the possibility of a huge methane gas deposit and what can result from that.

Mother Nature might just take care of TPTB and their financial empire.

richardterra1
richardterra1

So tell me kohala,

What’s your take on the end of the world as we know it doomsday scenario? Do you think that our civilization is going to fall if we aren’t rescued by the ETs? Or is that immaterial to you and you just want to see our civilization replaced regardless of whether it’s viable or not. And what is your take on earth changes, are they just around the corner and a necessary part of the ascension process?

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

I’m familiar with the Tesla story and that the weaponization of this technology makes nukes look like kitchen matches.

richardterra1
richardterra1

So kohala,

If “You can however get plans to build your own” aetheric energy device. Then why doesn’t Dr Greer and the Orion Project have them? Handling a NSO (National Security Order) is part of their business plan is it not?

hutz
hutz

unday, July 18, 2010
Obama indicted by secret U.S. Military Grand Jury
UNITED STATES of America – It can now be reported that a secret U.S. Military Grand Jury operating outside of Washington, D.C. has indicted current, alleged President Barack Obama, along with current dysfunctional U.S. Secretary of State, loser and lesbian in-the-closet Hillary Rodenhurst Clinton, as well as former illegal White House occupant George W. BushFRAUD, former President William Jefferson Clinton and Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate mafia boss, George Herbert Walker Bush aka daddy.

Read more: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=147509065&blogId=537267793#ixzz0u69uiddk

richardterra1
richardterra1

I’ve meet and talked with the Orion Project manager about bringing new energy to market.

I’d like to meet and talk with positive, benevolent ETs about this and other matters to help create a better future for our planet. I have the experience and political and security working relationships to facilitate this.

richardterra1
richardterra1

To Hutz,

Since when does a U.S. military court have jurisdiction over U.S. civilians, can you quote U.S. Code providing the statutory basis for your post?

hutz
hutz

The Bagpiper and the Homeless Man….
As a bagpiper, I play many gigs. Recently I was asked by a funeral director to play at a graveside service for a homeless man. He had no family or friends, so the service was to be at a pauper’s cemetery in the Kentucky back-country.

As I was not familiar with the backwoods, I got lost. I finally arrived an hour late and saw the funeral guy had evidently gone and the hearse was nowhere in sight. There were only the diggers and crew left and they were eating lunch. I felt badly and apologized to the men for being late.

I went to the side of the grave and looked down and the vault lid was already in place. I didn’t know what else to do, so I started to play.

The workers put down their lunches and began to gather around. I played out my heart and soul for this man with no family or friends..

I played like I’ve never played before for this homeless man. And as I played ‘Amazing Grace,’ the workers began to weep. They wept, I wept, we all wept together.

When I finished I packed up my bagpipes and started for my car. Though my head hung low, my heart was full.

As I opened the door to my car, I heard one of the workers say, “I never seen nothin’ like that before and I’ve been putting in septic tanks for twenty years.”

Apparently I’m still lost…..

hutz
hutz

I AM JUST PASSING IT ON AS I FIND IT.That is monthly report from someone I suspect works for Al Gore.
I don’t know but the military is our only hope .

todd
todd

dang !

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Well, hello-o-o-o, Todd. Dang, you’re still here. Was about to add my comment to johnq, hutz, and harondaddy who took it to the top. Too funny.

Anyhow, a little bit of seriousness on Ben’s history lesson. It’s important to keep focused on that history, as mk2009 indicated 7/19/10 10:18am. Japan’s indigenous people are the First Peoples. China has their’s, also. Every continent has them.

Do you recall the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami? I wonder how many of you really paid attention to that news report. I did, and of all the reporting they did, one item caught my attention the most. It had to do with the indigenous people that lived there. You can find this report in Wikipedia, “2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami” under the topic “Signs and Warnings”.

The last paragraph states:
“Anthropologists had initially expected the aborginial population of the Andaman Islands to be badly affected by the tsunami and even feared the endangered Onge tribe could have been wiped out. Of the six native tribes only the Nicobarese, who had converted to Christianity and taken up agriculture in place of their previous hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and mainland settlers suffered significant losses. Many of the aboriginal tribes evacuated and suffered fewer casualties.”

The aboriginal tribes suffered fewer casualties, because they saw it coming long before it hit their island. They headed for the hills in time as a result of their unique indigenous DNA radar. This was not the first time. All First Peoples have this birthright gift. So, how is it then that the Nicobarese suffered significant losses, if they had this DNA radar? Simple, they had converted to Christianity, they converted to a foreign belief system, it’s possible they lost their birthright gift of already knowing. They accepted a false belief system over what they already knew. We, in Hawaii, were subjected to that, also. Religious interference and proselytizing.

They headed for the hills in time as a result of their unigue indigenous DNA radar. Mind you these people, like all the other First Peoples are not ETs. They are human in every sense of the word who have a greater respect for earths elements, as is, without the help of modern technology. So, do they really need a man-made warning system? Likewise, do they really need a belief system in place of their own? I hardly think so.

It’s been six years, since that happened. How is it I still recall the reporting of those aboriginal population. Because ancestrally speaking we are one and the same, we possess that unique DNA of staying in touch with the spirit of the spirit of our ancestors who are not ETs.

Truth be told about Japan’s Yakuza, Asian gangs and aboriginal priestly line, the samurai. Our ancestors were in consortium with these First Peoples. They know our history very well, too. One and the same.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

roman
roman

Re Comments by ChrisB
Thank you for an intelligent and thoughtful commentary,
Some of the comments are so stupid and inane, one wonders where these people come from.

I am getting a bit tired of seeing comments like the one above.

kohala889
kohala889

Had a little 3.5 quake off Oahu Sunday afternoon, and some new lava flows near Kilauea volcano on the SE side of the Big Island (Kohala’s on the NW corner so we no worry). But flows down there are a pretty regular thing. Folks just live with the possibilities.

But RTerra, as far as the massive earth changes coming to this planet. My opinion is they’re a natural process of Mother Earth’s own ascension. She’s been ravaged by mankind’s exploitive negativity for so long, she now needs to re-balance. And that includes our whole solar system, which is also going through some major changes. These things happen at regular cyclical intervals of 13,000, 26,000 years, etc. No doomsday, we’ll all be fine. The ET’s are NOT here to rescue us. Their primary mission, as I understand it, is to aid us in raising our consciousness so that we can understand and undertake the fundamental changes necessary for us to rejoin our galactic family from which we have been estranged for so long.

As to the weaponization of Tesla’s work, perhaps this was the reason the technology was withheld for so long. This world was not yet ready for it. I’m thinking HAARP uses some of that and maybe the earth drilling beams which David Wilcock talked about recently.

No idea how Project Orion is progressing. I’m guessing the time’s not quite here. But after the Fed goes down and a transitional govt is established, ET disclosure will soon follow. Then the fleet obtains the OK to land and suppressed technologies will be released in short order. This is the sequence of events as I perceive them. Just my opinion though.

Kuuleimomi, just refreshed my page and saw your post. Do you think that most all the aboriginal people in the Pacific region may have sprung from Lemuria?

Aloha from Kohala

roman
roman

To clarify, I was not refering to Todd’s comments either

jj59
jj59

cfree, thanks for the compliment on the other page! you’re sweet.

richard, thank you for investigating Simmons. Maybe there are some out there who will try to wring the story dry as long as it is still has some life in it. I did wonder about that as I listened. But, we shall see.

Also, I still wonder then, about Hoagland’s (as well as other’s) story of there being a large gas bubble that may explode. Did that just go away also? Hmmm, not sure what to make of all the info that came forth over the last couple of months. The methane, sulfides, benzene, etc. All is now safe? Again, thank you for your opinions and researching.

jj59
jj59

Just curious, what do you all make of Ben’s statements when he says this; “For the next three weeks I will be disconnected from the internet and all digital means of communications.
And this “Next week we will discuss police/yakuza/imperial family relations.”

Those were the First, and Last sentences in his article. Does this mean we will or will not here from him next week? It doesn’t seem clear to me. Not a huge deal if he doesn’t post anything new next week, but just wondered how you guys interpreted him statements.

myra
myra

Ben: Be safe/God Bless/Thank you for all you do!

Chris Story: His report was taken down. Any idea if it was copied in its’ entirety on another site? I checked informamerica.net, and the link goes to the site, but nothing.

Not to infringe on copyright or anything Chris Story, but I print them for my dad (w/out computer) to keep up, but I hadn’t printed the latest update regarding the assassination attempt. Anyone have it anywhere? If so, please copy/paste the update here. If anyone wants the report taken down, I can get it up here tomorrow/by Wed.

Look forward to input! Peace!

hutz
hutz

Some serious mysteries and unanswered questions
> are arising from the BP oil spill.
>
> The strange thing is that not only are they not
> being addressed in the mainstream news, they’re
> also not being raised by the so-called conspiracy
> press.
>
> Video:
>
> http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/896.html
>

suncrystal
suncrystal

Lew, have you tested RichardTerra1? He seems to be trying to start arguments here, or is it just me?

Richard – there’s no such thing as Peak Oil. This disinfo has been ratted out here and elsewhere.

hutz
hutz

Come on roman . Give everyone a little break .Please do not be so sour. We try to share info in here and I am truly sorry that some of the comments is not to your liking . Please everyone try to post the kind of comments that roman wants . I for myself am sorry for posting anything that offended you in any way roman .Please except my apologies . Is there a certain thing you would like me to post . If so please let the room know what you consider a good post and a bad post.
Peace and light be with you my brother or sister .

myra
myra

Here it is: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=177927

C.STORY for JULY 10th: WORST FINANCIAL TERRORISM SABOTAGE IN HISTORY
hobie — Friday, 9-Jul-2010 20:31:14

Story has now added to it:

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NEW INFORMATION:

BELOW:
CIA/MI6.OBAMA/BUSH SR./CHENEY ORDERED CHISTOPHER STORY’S ASSASSINATION AND ARE SUPRISED AND TERRIFIED THAT HE IS NOT DEAD

OBAMA AND BUSH ‘SPOKEN TO’ BY MEN WITH GUNS

• When ‘President’ Barack Hussein Obama touched down on the White House Lawn at 5:30pm on 9th July, he was ‘spoken to’. Enquiries by this service confirm that those doing the ‘speaking’ were not Secret Service operatives. On the contrary they were men with guns.

• Within the past 24-30 hours, private citizen George Godfather H. W. Bush Sr. has likewise been ‘spoken to’ twice. The people doing the ‘speaking’ were men with guns.

• The Chinese have had enough and are ready to take drastic lethal measures.

• Private citizens George H. W. Bush Sr. and Neil Bush think they are immortal and can take the loot they are blocking to the grave.

• Obama, who answers to the private citizen George H. W. Bush Sr., is saying he’s a ‘national citizen’. In order to be President of the United States, under the Constitution and the Soldiers and Sailors Act, you have to be a NATURAL citizen born in the United States or born in a US military family serving abroad.

CIA/CHENEY/MI6/OBAMA/BUSH SR. HAVE ATTEMPTED
TO ASSASSINATE CHRISTOPHER STORY
A detailed report on this assassination attempt and the horrible illness inflicted on the Editor as a consequence will be published as soon as feasible.

•We now have proof that the CIA/MI6/Obama/Bush/Cheney issued an assassination order against this Editor. We have proof that they are suprised that the Editor is not dead.

End

Recommended copying/printing for future reference. Still have not found mirrored complete report, but I have it in hard copy.

hutz
hutz
myra
myra

Suncrystal: It seems we have some that choose to incite lately. Peace to all! Thanks for all the info also!

casar1973
casar1973

I saw that after I had posted the link to “rothschild governance” maps on this forum – there was over one thousand downloads in a short period time! If anybody´s interested there are a few more power structure analysis maps uploaded here:

http://www.theblackeningquill.com/the-power-structure-f7/world-governance-t63-15.htm

donalda1
donalda1

JJ. I was wondering if and when anyone would catch that!?

I wonder what is going on? Is it really Ben doing the posting or someone else? ( all kinds of imagination can be inserted here)!

I am glad to see it was noticed.

Donald

hutz
hutz

Maby he is a spy.

patriotkate
patriotkate

Now I’m getting concerned. I, too, had noticed that Christopher Story’s report mentioning his assassination attempt had been removed. Even before that, I questioned whether the recent reports were posted by Story himself, because most of information was just re-posts of earlier letters and things like that.

Now, almost no new information from Ben in a couple of weeks and this removal of Story’s report. And, I’m not so sure the most recent reports of Ben’s were written by him.

When is Ben usually on Rense? Is that scheduled to occur again soon?

casar1973
casar1973

I would like to reiterate that the overall “game-plan” in the world looks intact to me. What has changed? Nothing. It seems to me that many people have been caught in smoke and mirrors and delusions, trying to suggest that something of a fundamental nature has really changed the winds.

I fail to see where in our waking actual reality this has occured. Until then something new materializes all of that is a theory. The two main forces at play is meandering its way forward in the world in a rather predictable fashion:

1. a great depression
2. wars and consequential great war

Once those has come into full peak play, probably some time after 2012, a world fed on famine, wars and depression – will be offered a saving hand from the powers that be – a new world order, to promise an end to the wars and depressions…a effort to lead the sheeple to the final stage of their “grand play”. A one world government.

For at the highest level, the elite finance still owns the largest part of the worlds assets, regardless of collapses of nations and subnational banks.

Nothing has changed.

myra
myra

Casar: TY for your wonderful posts continuously. Although I continue to hope for the best, I agree with you.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Cesar,

Sometimes, the most important changes aren’t actually those that can be seen. Think about the minute cracks within a structure that make it vulnerable, but aren’t visible until it is too late. I see changes occurring right now. I don’t think that the “sheeple” will go along with any program suggested to them. There are people that are oblivious to the current situation, but way too many others are being terribly affected.

Look at the oil spill. First, BP pushed to have all reporters barred from the site. There were so many adverse comments that that policy has been changed. Hardly a day goes by without something being reversed. The plan to launch the Iran war MONTHS AGO has been postponed. Visit the Veterans Today site and you will get a very clear picture of how angry the troops are and what these guys ar up against.

On alcuin yesterday, one of the things discussed was shutting down the Pilgrims Club. Nobody even mentioned it, but this is a very significant suggestion. Go check it out. While you are reading it, think about this. The criminal Bush family have been pumping money into a “Pilgrim’s Trust” for years. I don’t know if it is related, but it seems likely.

MK

Later this week, I will post an excellent article on why the USA corporation cannot “inflate” its way out of the current mess

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Roman,

I don’t know who you are, but I suspect that your purpose here is not benign. Let me clarify something for you. I respect the First People’s knowledge about a large number of subjects. If the Western world had been more respectful of their knowledge and beliefs, we would not be in the mess that we are in.

This forum is a peaceful place. We do disagree on things, but we conduct our disagreements in a civil manner. We do not conduct ad hominum (sp?) attacks that offer nothing positive. If we don’t agree with someone’s point of view, we explain why in a reasonable, logical and courteous manner. This has been our way since the beginning. We do not simply label what someone has written as “stupid” or “inane.” Puerile rudeness is not tolerated here.

Those who cannot behave in a pleasant manner soon find themselves on the receiving end of the fine intellects that populate this place. Do not make this mistake again.

MK

casar1973
casar1973

“Sometimes, the most important changes aren’t actually those that can be seen.”

Mk2009 – just back that up with evidence. Slogans have existed as long as man. Where is it?

If the brightest minds that I know in the field thinks it is ultimately “business as usual” in the worlds of rogue politics and corrupt economies – Mk2009 will have a hard time to convince me of otherwise.

Back it up. Show me how much less the finance oligarchs and political meritocrats can dictate the world stage. Well, you can´t. There is no backing to the slogan.

The Oil spill – a typical contrived situation – is a perfect example of the song remaining the same.

It can change of course. But it hasn´t.

mk2009
mk2009

Hello Cafe’ members,

I don’t know if this is the rumored “Wikileaks” “The World is Changing Monday,” but I thought that it might be of interest. Please congratulate the WaPo on trying to act like a newspaper once again.

MK

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http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/07/16/state_department_warns_employees_about_new_website_highlighting_top_secret_faciliti

State Department warns employees about new website highlighting Top Secret facilities
Posted By Josh Rogin Friday, July 16, 2010 – 11:13 AM Share
The State Department is bracing for a potentially explosive new feature on the Washington Post website that would publish the names and locations of agencies and firms conducting Top Secret work on behalf of the U.S. government, according to the copy of an email obtained by The Cable.

The Diplomatic Security Bureau at State sent out a notice Thursday to all department employees warning them to protect classified information and reject inquiries from the press when the new web feature goes live.

“The Washington Post plans to publish a website listing all agencies and contractors believed to conduct Top Secret work on behalf of the U.S. Government,” the notice reads. “The website provides a graphic representation pinpointing the location of firms conducting Top Secret work, describing the type of work they perform, and identifying many facilities where such work is done.”

According to the notice, the Post used only open-source information to compile its site. However, if some of that open-source information turns out to have been classified, its publication by the Post doesn’t change that classification, the State Department emphasized.

“All Department personnel should remain aware of their responsibility to protect classified and other sensitive information, such as the Department’s relationships with contract firms, other U.S. Government agencies, and foreign governments,” the notice says.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley confirmed the authenticity of the e-mail and said it went out to all State Department employees in the Washington, DC area, 14,574 people.

The Washington Post declined requests for comment.

Here’s the full notice:

Office of Origin: DS/EX

Announcement Number: 2010_07_059

Date of Announcement: July 15, 2010

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Notification of Major Media Outlet Story On Monday July 19, the Washington Post plans to publish a website listing all agencies and contractors believed to conduct Top Secret work on behalf of the U.S. Government. The website provides a graphic representation pinpointing the location of firms conducting Top Secret work, describing the type of work they perform, and identifying many facilities where such work is done.

Although the Washington Post acquired the information from open sources, all Department personnel should remain aware of their responsibility to protect classified and other sensitive information, such as the Department’s relationships with contract firms, other U.S. Government agencies, and foreign governments. Employees are reminded that they must neither confirm nor deny information contained in this, or any, media publication, and that the publication of this website and supporting articles does not constitute a change to the level of classification of any information duly classified in accordance with Executive Order 13526.

In the unlikely event you are contacted for comment, please forward any request for information to the Bureau of Public Affairs, Press Relations Office at (202) 647-2492.

UPDATE: The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder publishes a related memo by Art House, the communications director of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which appears to be just as worried as the State Department about the Post’s reporting. Excerpt:

It might be helpful as you prepare for publication to draw up a list of accomplishments and examples of success to offer in response to inquiries to balance the coverage and add points that deserve to be mentioned. In media discussions, we will seek to garner support for the Intelligence Community and its members by offering examples of agile, integrated activity that has enhanced performance. We will want to minimize damage caused by unauthorized disclosure of sensitive and classified information.

It also describes ODNI’s expections for the Washington Post series:

Themes

While we can’t predict specific content, we anticipate the following themes:

The intelligence enterprise has undergone exponential growth and has become unmanageable with overlapping authorities and a heavily outsourced contractor workforce.

The IC and the DoD have wasted significant time and resources, especially in the areas of counterterrorism and counterintelligence.

The intelligence enterprise has taken its eyes off its post-9/11 mission and is spending its energy on competitive and redundant programs.

Format

The Washington Post may run a series of three articles, the first being an overview, the second focused on the large number of contractors supporting the intelligence enterprise, and the third looking at a specific community (the Fort Meade/BWI Airport area) that has expanded in part due to Intelligence Community growth.

The Washington Post is expected to work with Public Broadcasting Service’s Frontline program to add a television component to this work, and will also present an interactive web site demonstrating growth of the intelligence enterprise and inviting comment and dialogue. The Post advises that “links” between individual contractors and specific agencies have been deleted, although the Post will still cite contractors and their locations.

UPDATE #2: An administration official responds to The Cable to comment on the Post series, which the administration is portraying as less than meets the eye.

“A lot of this is explainable. You want some redundancy in the Intelligence Community and you’re going to have some waste. These are things we’ve been aware of and in some instances we agree are troubling. However, it’s something we’ve been working on for a year and a half. It’s something we’ve been on top of,” the official said.

“There was a need for urgent expansion after 9/11 and there was a need for an expansion of contractors to fill analyst positions. There will be examples of money being wasted in the series that seem egregious and we are just as offended as the readers by those examples.”

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

More on this exposure story. The Atlantic has a story on the WaPO feature already. Please comment about the need for transparency. I don’t know if I have mentioned this before, but I believe that I have. Based on the many heinous acts that I have discovered which have been hidden from the public by the use of the categorization “National Security,” I am completely opposed to secrets in government. The only security that is being protected by this classification is the job security of those hiding behind it.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR A COUNTRY THAT CLAIMS TO BE ABOUT LIBERTY AND FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS TO DEPRIVE Those that don’t agree with its policies of their ultimate right which is the right to live. US intelligence agencies mostly run by the sons of the elite and their cronies have killed too many people for no reason other than those people wanted the natural resources of their country to benefit the people of that country.

Here is the link. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/07/internal-memo-intelligence-community-frets-about-washington-post-series/59891/

Please go make comments.

MK

g7enn
g7enn

On one level, regarding the misguided ones, there appears to be no change. Their schemes appear to be going as planned. On another level, there is a vast change in consciousness transpiring on the planet, so slowly that to many it goes virtually unnoticed, yet so rapidly that many find it challenging to bare. This forum is a good example of the consciousness change. It’s pace is increasing as the pace of the misguided one’s plans hastens. We few at the forefront of the consciousness change are like the water that begins to ebb landward at the beginning of a great Tsunami. It’s difficult to note the vast change because we are ahead of it.

Some are afraid to hope or envision a bright future for fear of being wrong or disappointed. I remind them who we are as so well put by another of us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THGhFcGNh0Q&feature=related

richardterra1
richardterra1

To suncrystal,

“Peak oil has been ratted out here”

It has? I missed it, would you care to enlighten me on the subject with your rapier intellect and fathomless knowledge?

I’m all ears, I’ve studied the subject in depth, are you going to prove to me something that I’ve yet to discover on my own?

Have at it and impeach my credibility while you’re at it if you can, and let’s see who’s the liar and who’s the truth teller.

mk2009
mk2009

Gooooooooooooood Mooooooooooorrrning BFC,

I found it! i found it! I found it!I found it! i found it! I found it!I found it! i found it! I found it!I found it! i found it! I found it!

Actually, a friend of mine found it and sent it to me. Here it is, the link for the WaPo’s new page on all the top secret stuff going on. Make a point of commenting folks and those that want to–might think about subscribing even if it is only for a week or two. We need to encourage these kinds of SUNLIGHT INITIATIVE in the MSM.

MK
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http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/

A hidden world, growing beyond control

The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by The Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

The investigation’s other findings include:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings – about 17 million square feet of space.

jj59
jj59

donald, not one mention of it here besides you and I. (and huntz?) Maybe it’s not important enough to address? I am not sure. However, it seemed odd.

jj59
jj59

richard, I’m sorry I ever posted on Simmons. I see I’ve ruffled some feathers and it wasn’t my intention.

lew3
lew3

JJ and Donald, my inderstanding after reading Ben’s comments is that while he is disconnected, three articles that he had already written will be posted here over three weeks. We got the first one yesterday; two more to follow. This happened before with one post and we were all confused/upset. This time Ben announced his upcoming absence. Ben has been a prolific writer in his career and must have an enormous reservoir of material.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and all I hear and tolerate, academically, many various conjectures as to alternative realities, reliious , or cosmic relationships of our soul ,or, spirits with same. So I am telling the old , old story of Jesus and HIS LOVE. John 3:16.
We all know that the animal kingdom, and insects have an autonomic programming( instinctive behavioral coding) in their DNA that allows them to perform complex funtions like nest building, the complex bee hive government and inate specialized skills of the various classes of the bees in the hive, and many other such examples of natural unique abilities to function as the specific creation they are.
There is only One that claims to be Creator GOD and an overwhelming evidence of writings and archeolaogical evidence of such a unique Creator being :
Gen 1: 20-25 5th & 6th days of creation; All air , sea and land animals.
Gen 1: 26 During the course of the sixth day GOD laboured God created all the races of mankind, male and female and the provisions of the earth for their herbs for meat , or, food source,sustinence.The wild life was not especially a food source,evidently to grace the earth with their beauty __but maybe__,only the cud chewers that ate grass, and only other vegetation , were considered a clean source of food(green herbifore animals).On the Seventh Day , HE rested.
The Eighth DAY (8 = NEW BEGINNINGS) Genesis 2:5. V 6 (ie) The canopy over the earth retained the moisture as a mist and watered all the vegetaion, wherever found. V 5, (cont.) and yet there was not a man available (well suited and capable) to till the ground .Gen: 2:7 GOD creates Adam(actually tansfers ,pneuma air,-spirt-breath into his nostrils-flesh body;(given therwith a soul) he is to be the seedbearer(umbilical cord to umbilical cord-lineage) vis a vis his son Seth forward to David and JESHUA. Gen:2:8 GOD sets up the Garden of Eden , perfect habitat in which to farm (to dress it and keep it-the Garden of Eden) and live. WARNING Adam ; stay away from any offering of and from the Tree( arms ,legs and trunk-who would’a thunk it)of The knowledged of Good & Evil (aka Satan).So the point is at this juncture, that the first Adam had a God to follow and lovingly heed all recommendations from his All Powerful Benefactor.Even subsequent to his falling out of favour with GOD and his banishment from Eden,he would definitely promote this Wonderful Being to all he met. So he that follows him may be found farming and continuing to follow after the yearnings in his soul rather than the instincts in his body, which are carnal and not etheral. Everyone dies in the flesh, but the spirit moves on to either a heaven or, a hell. Are you one with the FATHER, or, are you fading into nothingness ?

Edge
Edge

Hi–This is my own personal opinion on Benjamins comments–
He is taking three weeks off–probably to some fly-in lake
in the back woods of Northern Ontario–black flies and
mosquitos included– his posts (as Lew says) are pre-written for posting til he returns. (see how close I am when he
gets back)
His schedule on Rense is the 3rd Wed. of the month (this Wed.)–don’t know what will happen there–

danwyo
danwyo

MK,
The Washington Post article appears to me to mostly be disinfo. Quoting your post:
Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

What this article doesn’t say is that the apparatus is likely focused on us, the American people, that the secret US Gov that runs these secret sites considers us to be the terrorists, and that “they” the real terrorists, the secret government, are the ones who hate our freedoms.

sierra
sierra

jj59 hiroki.52pm
RE“For the next three weeks I will be disconnected from the internet and all digital means of communications.
And this “Next week we will discuss police/yakuza/imperial family relations.”

Those were the First, and Last sentences in his article. Does this mean we will or will not here from him next week? It doesn’t seem clear to me. Not a huge deal if he doesn’t post anything new next week, but just wondered how you guys interpreted him statements.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

I think that means Ben is going to be on holiday, likely in a remote wilderness area, and hence unavailable to write new reports.

He likely had 3 reports pre-written and pre-loaded to this site with them set to appear on specified posting dates.

Let’s hope he has also switched the “comments” section ON for those posts, or we will be swimming in thousands of comments as we continue to communicate here. (LOL…Luck of Leprechans )
>>>>>>>>>>>

Sierra

PS…
Yes… also noticed that the July 11 post on C. Story’s site is “missing” . Wonder what is happening on that scene?

hutz
hutz
chrisb
chrisb

Casar:
Looking from the outside in I would agree with things you have said. That being said, I can only hope that the things I have heard and from reliable sources that it is what we are not hearing that will make the inroads into a new change for the planet. For example, we had Story reporting back in Dec. about Interpol actually being involved in the take down of the the corruption. Jim Willie , non mainstream news but a contributor to Financial Sense and someone who also has a substantial following not due to conspiracy stuff but his more practical approach to the mainstream markets also made reference to the interpol thing independent of Story. ( Atleast we hope it was independent and he did not get that from Story’s update himself). I also have a connection who’s friend personally talked to someone who was visibly shook up who works for a bank (won’t mention who and what) that personally witnessed executives being arrested at the bank she works out. Jim Willie back in October while everyone being optimistic at the time said in his newsletter that the new banking system was not ready to go into effect because of various reasons. Jim Willie who reports out of Costa Rica also had his apt. ransacked and computers stolen. Anyhow there have been clues and just like 9/11 when things were as they are to today on the verge of something historic or dramatic, we then have another false flag in the gulf. So while I would agree with you that it is difficult to really get a picture of change, there are things happening behind the scenes. Are those things going to make the change and give usa whole new world. Don’t know. I talk to the father of a Congressman and he sends me postings of all his sons trips and who is supporting him etc. etc. From talking to him do I get a sense of any changes in Washington??? Nope. When I look at the faces of a Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Bill, George, Obe, do I see they are worried or scared of a change coming where they will be nailed???? Nope I just hope the train that runs them over blows the whistle seconds before the impact so it gives them atleast one second to reflect.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Cesar,

Look at the last two things that I posted and tell me again that NOTHING IS CHANGING. The WaPo just outed the intelligence establishment’s explosive and silly growth after 2001. That is an enormous crack in the edifice of those that want to run the world. Read the story that follows which was written by a former high level Marine officer and banker-type. He is revealing deep levels of corruption in the DoD.

A number of American companies just moved to Shanghai supposedly for a “better business climate,” but the truth is that they moved their to escape the collapse of this country which everybody but you and your friends evidently see coming. I am sure that your friends are intelligent, but I am old and have seen lots of this before. They are in DENIAL. The fact is that there is no way that these criminals can keep this scheme going. Pretty soon, they will be releasing enormous numbers of government employees at every level.

MK

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GORDON DUFF: VIETNAM, DECADES OF LIARS BLACKEN THE NAMES OF REAL HEROES
July 13, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 57 Comments

HOW MANY REAL PHONIES WERE IN VIETNAM?
HOW MANY WEAR MEDALS AWARDED BY THEMSELVES?
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Today, my good friend and fellow editor, Jim W. Dean of Heritage TV in Atlanta sent me an article on Vietnam by James Webb, a Marine with a Navy Cross, Silver Star and Bronze Star. I read the article. I am flabbergasted. The best thing I can say is I hope someone else wrote it. It is offensive and simply insane.

>> We had been told while training that Marine officers in the
>> rifle companies had an 85 percent probability of being killed or
>> wounded, and the experience of “Dying Delta,” as our company was known,
>> bore that out. Of the officers in the bush when I arrived, our company
>> commander was wounded, the weapons platoon commander wounded, the first
>> platoon commander was killed, the second platoon commander was wounded
>> twice, and I, commanding the third platoons fared no better. Two of my
>> original three-squad leaders were killed, and the third shot in the
>> stomach. My platoon sergeant was severely wounded, as was my right
>> guide. By the time I left, my platoon I had gone through six radio
>> operators, five of them casualties.
Another quote I don’t entirely understand.
>> The Greatest Generation ? Think about it they fought a
>> unpopular war, came Home were spit on, called names, their Fathers
>> Generation had nothing to do with them and yet though it all these so
>> called no good cry babies who could not win a war (Thanks to their
>> Fathers and Mothers Generation) fought the biggest war of their life and
>> is still fighting it today.

Draft Dodger Sylvestor Stallone as Vietnam Veteran John Rambo
Every time I hear about “airport spitters” I think of draft dodger Sylvester Stallone playing Rambo, the whining crybaby of movie fame. Whoever wrote and directed that must really have hated America. Every time I hear the airport spitter myth I know I am being played. For those of you who know nothing about PTSD, spitting on a combat veteran is a form of suicide. Pointing an empty shotgun at a SWAT team is considered safe and sensible in comparison.
I was a Marine grunt in Vietnam. I served with 2nd squad, 2nd platoon of BLT 1/26, a Marine Special Landing Team. I won’t call myself a hero, in fact no real Marine would, it is considered an insult to call a Marine a hero, always has been. Let’s talk about “Dying Delta.” That would be Delta Company, 1/26. We also had a unit called “The Walking Dead” which was 1st Bn, 9th Marines. Frankly, these were just names people made up. I can talk a bit about Delta though. Back during the summer of 69, Delta Company was set up on a perimeter a couple of clicks inland between Hoi An and Chu Lai. We were operating, supposedly, with the Korean Marines. In truth, they were living on ships and we were fighting. This is how Americans buy their allies. This was war like TV, bayonet charges, death every day, continual combat.
Delta had been surrounded by a large force of North Vietnamese Army troops, maybe numbering in the thousands. This was like the movie Zulu, for those familiar with such things. The area had once been French, half destroyed villages here and there and abandoned plantations, even hedge rows like in Normandy, except temperatures well over 100 degrees with stifling humidity. Delta had sent out a patrol that had gotten past a hedge row and was ambushed. Our squad was called in to get them. We had three Amtracks, huge lumbering vehicles that picked us up and brought us to the other side of the hedge row, where we could hear the wounded on the other side. This was a wild ride, several kilometers cross country, but I am getting ahead of myself.
The night before, our unit had been attacked for hours. I had dug into the soft sand so deep that Harris and I, Lance Corporal Eddie Lee Harris, could have been accused of trying to get back home. Our position was eventually overrun, with Harris and I spending some time hiding out from the North Vietnamese, still in our hole. We pulled sand over us and waited for our guys to come back. We laughed about it in the morning. I remember it raining then, I took out my poncho, tied it between trees and filled a canteen with rain water. Water and ammunition, run out of either one, you are dead.
We got a radio message to prepare to move out immediately. We waiting for the Amtracks to pick us up. We were told “dying Delta” was in trouble and we had to save them. We had just barely saved ourselves. It was called a “suicide mission.” Drama. Marines do alot of drama. The unfunny part was burning our mail, our photographs, making sure we had nothing to identify us. There was an ominous feeling about this.
The “tracks” ran over trees as we careened through old buildings, through swamps. We sat on top of the tracks, old .30 caliber Browning machine-guns with sandbags holding down the tripods on each. More sand bags gave us cover. This was a fascinating run, lots of see and we weren’t walking. We climbed off the tracks, sand, cactus, and what I will call “hedge rows” but really embankments separating fields, maybe 8 feet tall with bike paths on them.
I had Bill Eckard behind me and Ed Harris next to him when I hit the top of the berm to go across and get the wounded. I could see two or three of the Delta guys on the ground ahead maybe 30 feet. They weren’t moving. I stopped abruptly when several anti-aircraft rounds came past me, they had a big gun out there. It was like having a bus nearly hit you. A Navy corpsman ran up next to me, meaning to head over the berm and down to what we hoped were wounded. The next thing I remember was him being hit and coming apart. A couple of months ago, I went over this with Bill Eckard, who is also one of our staff writers. Bill says he was hit by an RPG, a rocket propelled grenade. I lost a little chunk of time then and remember nothing between then and several minutes later, or what I guess was “minutes.”
This wasn’t one of our corpmen but this was a Medal of Honor guy by any standards. I am still waiting for my “idiot standing next to him” award. We then drew back down along the “safe” side of the berm, spread out and talked about how to deal with this. We knew we had one heavy weapon or more in front and maybe another to the right, maybe out 80 to 200 metres and were taking small arms fire from almost everywhere.. The answer? Harris took a fire team around to flank the guns, hit them from the left while we fixed bayonets, waited for Harris to get into place and went over the top, right out of World War I. This may have been America’s last bayonet charge, or at least I hope so.
After advancing successfully, we turned back to get the wounded and dead. We were under heavy fire with one man getting hit in the abdomen in the process. I picked him up and carried him back while I could see Harris continuing to advance on the gun crew from the left flank. He was a total maniac, a frightening son of a bitch. We were best friends, still are. Harris left Vietnam without any personal decorations although I saw him earn three Medals of Honor there. Eckard has a Silver Star and a handful of Purple Hearts for which he paid dearly, losing both legs and part of an arm. Eckard writes for us also and is as tough as he ever was, maybe more so. He spent 34 years fighting the VA, retiring as Director of the Prosthetics Division. I am proud of him, much more for that than Vietnam.
The guy I was carrying had stopped moving, moaning. He was dying, though his wound looked so small. Human life isn’t always appreciated as it should be, something I remember thinking at the time.
I got to the side of an Amtrack and, with some help, we got him onboard. He was a KIA as were others lined up on the ground. War is funny, anyone who tells you they remember everything is a liar. I remember seeing journalists show up, Life Magazine, taking photographs of the dead and wounded.
Then things went very wrong. We could see people, “indigenous forces” or whoever, coming out of a treeline. We flanked them, now they flanked us. Everyone, and I don’t remember who “everyone” was, pulled back except the rear guard, us. I remember turning, firing occasionally, really at nothing. I remember how hard it is to reload an M-16 or to clear a jam when being shot at in the open. Shaking hands were part of the problem.
When I got my weapon functioning, I turned around and noted that my associates had managed to put 200 meters between themselves and me in what I imagined was two seconds. I suspect I was fumbling with my “failed” experimental assault rifle a bit too long. How do you describe being shot at? It really doesn’t seem that personal, it isn’t “at” anything, its simply metal stuff flying around everywhere like mosquitoes but bigger, some of it very big, very fast and capable of hitting you anywhere, not like in cowboy movies. You get hit and parts come off. I had seen that. There is a feeling of vulnerability that is hard to describe, at least to someone that hasn’t “been there.”
There was a cemetery about 30 yards away, French with large monuments, angels, weird stuff like that. Who would want to be buried in such a miserable place? By that time, I was genuinely frightened, things weren’t looking good for me at all. The air seemed to have lost all its oxygen. Time was stopping and I felt like I was turning into lead. I ran, though I swear it was slow motion, to the cover of the cemetery, not much cover but better than nothing.
I laid down on a grave, behind a tombstone, maybe made of aging concrete. Chunks of it were flying off as it was being hit. I remember flattening out, holding my head sideways, arms out, trying to be invisible, sink into the ground if possible. It was easy to tell they had a heavy weapon. This was a .51 caliber anti-aircraft gun. Remembering the difference, when a half pound of lead heads past you, that part is easy. We use this kind of weapons on others all the time now. They are quite devastating.
I would like to say I was firing back, changing magazines. I don’t remember doing that. Assume I was, it sounds better. What I remember next is looking up and seeing an Amtrack a few feet away, looking over me. The driver crawled out the hatch, no shirt, no helmet, just an M-14. He stood on top of the track at least 8 feet in the air above me, assumed the “off hand” position, the perfect rifle firing stance, and began putting fire on the enemy gun crew, fire I could tell was dead on. This was the day’s third Medal of Honor, another one not awarded. Years ago I actually heard from this guy.
He thought nothing of it but wondered who it was he was saving. “We did this kind of thing all the time,” not every day but often, too often. This is the job. I remember him writing, “You guys did all the hard stuff, I was just a driver.”
When reading James Webb’s story I get angry. The highest ranking person at that action died. It was the Navy corpsman killed next to me. He was an E-5. There wasn’t a single officer in that action or so many others, endless others in Vietnam. I went six months without ever seeing an officer. Our units were run by Lance Corporals and occasionally Corporals. It wasn’t always that way and it wasn’t true of all units but it was true of most units. Webb’s story is simply self serving.
This, quality of command, was a discussion question from 1993 to 1999 on AOL’s Military History section. Hundreds of Vietnam veterans participated with many giving accounts of great officers, particularly early in the war and many, most, indicating that officers and staff NCO’s had become oblivious and showed poor morale, something we saw with some consistency. As Marines, we seldom went out in units larger than a squad with typical squad strength down to as little as five men eventually. We had an officer with us once, out to get his “bronze star” patrol, the once in a tour day in the field, a casual walk to the safest local village we could find. He threw up from the heat, couldn’t keep up. We made sure he couldn’t keep up, actually. Harris still laughs about this.
If you didn’t go out every day, there was no way you could stay up with a combat unit that was out 7 days a week. We didn’t enjoy dragging tourists around with us.
For us, it didn’t matter, platoon or company, our officers and NCOs were back at our firebase, one we visited only rarely. I saw our platoon sergeant in the field once, trussed up with a helmet, flak jacket and camouflage blouse, sleeves rolled down. He had never worn any of it before and looked like a clown. These stories about brave officers leading men in combat are quite humorous. I think of the HBO series, Band of Brothers, the story of Easy Company, 505 PIR, 101st Airborne, in World War II. We never had an officer like Lt. Winter. Maybe Webb was like Winter but if he was, I couldn’t imagine he would have written something so utterly divorced from reality. I thank Tom Hanks and Steven Spieberg for their fine effort.
We could call the problem morale or corruption. It goes further, much further. When the units food was sold for drugs and sex or for cash, a routine that went on every day in Vietnam, our officers were silent. When men lost, not 20% of body weight but 40%, malnutrition, malaria or combat wounds never treated, of our officers said nothing. They would simply assign patrols to areas they had never been and knew nothing of, unaware of the war, the enemy or anything relevant to their jobs. We would roll our eyes back in our heads, take off and fight the war, knowing nobody cared, nobody wanted to know and that a separate little world that involved driving back into DaNang in jeeps, visiting “the club,” taking in movies and eating specially secured food existed parallel to ours.
This was a world of polished jeeps and helicopters, fine china, sterling silver, teenage prostitutes carefully screened for “cleanliness,” a world of ignorance, corruption and incompetence. Imagine not knowing the name of your platoon commander because you never met him or her? They could have been women for all we knew. I am reminded of the scene from Apocalypse Now, Martin Sheen gets off his boat and heads ashore, a unit is under attack near a bridge. He stops a soldier, “Son, who is in command here?” The response, “I thought you were?”
French author Bernard Fall wrote a book called Two Vietnams. I had actually read Falls books before going to Vietnam, which made one of us. Fall had no idea how far America would take the concept, though. We had two Vietnams. Real Marines, Army and Vietnamese, the farmers, the Viet Cong, the NVA, we lived in one of them. The other Vietnam? There was a huge underworld of clubs, swimming pools, black market, visiting congressmen being treated to the perversion of the day. Medals by the thousand were given to people who hadn’t spent a minute in combat or who were removed from command for incompetence. Our rare and occasional ventures into the rear made us sick. We were looked at like freaks, walking skeletons with long hair, wearing rags and openly hostile and disrespectful to those who were used to something different. We were no longer “with the program.”
American soldiers sacrificed, gave their lives, their health, all, not just for nothing but to be dishonored by a pack of professional liars who have spent every moment of the last four decades patting themselves on the back for their heroics. There were two Vietnams. There are also two kinds of vets. Alot of us came back and never got “with the program.” It seemed like the honorable way of dealing with dishonor.
What kind of officer woudn’t notice that the turkey dinners for Thanksgiving and Christmas had been sold at DaNangs black market, called “Three Corners,” and men, even in the “rear eschelon” were fed fatty liverwurst and stale bread, not just stale but moldy? In the field, it was canned garbage, a decade over the expiration date. The officers got turkey with all the trimmings, the men got nothing. Nobody said a word. The only war our leaders were trained for was “class war.”
If you would like to know the primary concern among command personnel in Vietnam, I will tell you. It was “staying alive.” The reason? Hate. Marines hated their senior NCOs, many of them at least. Some, I admit, were exceptional people, combat vets from World War II and Korea. One of my favorites, Master Sergeant Miller W. Scott, from Tennessee, the picture perfect Marine, tough as hell. Scott would reluctantly sit with me and complain about what the Marine Corps had become. It was his job to get me to accept a commission, something I had been refusing. Scott, a combat vet from Korea, hated being surrounded by racists, drunks and some seriously fat people, our senior staff NCOs. He knew how much money they were making, selling our food, our equipment and maybe our weapons. The military, in Vietnam, was ruled by a Mafia of NCO’s, a group that started out running drugs through the enlisted clubs in Germany, who carried their “infrastructure” to Vietnam. Eventually Marines caught on, using the term “Marine” blasphemously.
Many Marine bases had special high security compounds for the officers and staff NCOs to live in, protected from their own troops. We will never know how many were murdered by their own men but minimally ten times more than reported. A “fragging” death quickly became a “mortar attack.” A claymore mine under a bed was called a “rocket attack.” Many bases saw more combat inside the wire than out with gunfire regularly erupting between African American troops and senior NCOs from regions of the country where virtual slavery was still practiced openly.
Undercover CID operatives were infiltrated into units, drug dogs were brought out to remote firebases and “good ole southern boy” NCOs would creep around at night or hide in the bushes trying to catch “brothers” smoking marijuana. It had become a “juicer versus doper” war. Rear areas became a battleground of aging drunks against cooks, radio operators and clerks while combat troops were permanently kept in the field out of fear they would join the “insurrection” against “whitey.” Many officers and NCO’s thought combat troops were Viet Cong sympathizers or members of terrorist groups like the White Panthers or Weathermen. They were right.
In order to feel safe, units were kept in the field 30 days a month, resupplied by jeep or helicopter with perimeter security handled by cooks, radio operators and clerks, often moving from typewriter to hand to hand combat. Combat operations had become impossible with open warfare between black and white, urban and rural, educated and “professional military” overshadowing anything else going on.
If this isn’t the way you heard it told, its time you started paying attention to different people.
The real Marines were my friends, some “grunts,” some aircraft mechanics, two good friends running a water purification facility, driving trucks, working and fighting.
In the middle of writing this, I just finished reading General Stanley McChrystal’s final report on Afghanistan, released only by a newspaper in Britain. It reports what I and so many others, have been writing about all along, the total failure of American efforts to support Karzai. However, this detailed and intelligently written report makes no mention of the $65 billion drug business in Iraq closely tied to the Karzai regime. McChrystal talks about massive corruption, remember, this is corruption in his own command, but does so only in a passing shot. Why didn’t he jail the thousands involved when he was there? Why can’t he see an opium poppy?
Are Americans simply looking away or, as in Vietnam, are many taking part? What are we covering up?
But, compared to the stories from Vietnam, the “whitewash” and baloney, this McChrystal report is a breath of fresh air and honesty. It is also “too little, too late.”
America has abandoned troops before. Valley Forge was the start but isn’t and won’t be the finish. When Senators McCain and Kerry, “heroes” of Vietnam fought to block efforts to return recover our POWs from Vietnam, their corruption, so blatant, was never reported and only rewarded, never punished. We put medals on our trash, put it in congress or promote it to the highest levels of the Pentagon. Lying about Vietnam is part of why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan now. The scum rose to the top because we stopped valuing the truth.
If you wonder why we can fight a ten year war, one we have done so much worse in than Vietnam, spent a hundred times as much money and yet hear nothing about it, think of the heavily decorated officers building careers for themselves, perhaps even heading on to the senate. How can there be nobody at all, military, congress or the press, telling the truth about what is going on? Why is everyone telling the same lies? Who has that kind of power? Can drug money control, not only our military but press as well?
I can still picture Vietnam, seeing a Marine rifle squad heading across the rice paddies in the distance, into the hills. Behind them, miles behind, lay the city of DaNang. I will always remember being a part of one of those squads. I remember sitting out in the hills, looking back toward the city in the distance. One day we sat four hours, watching the air base. Planes took off, one after another, looped around a mile off the end of the runway and dropped bombs in an empty field. This went on endlessly, with pilots flying “sorties” or “bombing missions” against “enemy targets.” We had one empty hillside burned black from constant bombing. Nothing had ever been there but thousands of tons of bombs, napalm, had been dropped on it. It was close, safe, convenient. I wonder how many generals had “made their bones” bombing that blackened rock?
If you have seen photographs of Vietnam with fields looking cratered like the moon, this field off the end of the runway was the place. The unexploded bombs left here would be picked up by the Viet Cong and used for booby traps or, as they are called now, IEDs. These bombs killed many of my friends and one nearly got me. The Air Force delivered endless tons of high explosives to our enemies like this. Naval gunfire was the same way. Aging, left over ammunition, unexploded, defective until wired as booby traps, could be found everywhere. Most American casualties came from weapons made from defective American munitions.
So much of the war was “pretend.” Army units were sent into hopeless attacks, flown into enemy strongholds because it fit a news cycle or a VIP needed entertainment. All that was needed to “sex up” any disaster was a typewriter. You could spread casualties out over weeks, add hundreds of imaginary killed enemy and a bungling coward just earned a Silver Star for killing off a dozen Americans. The lessons the military learned in Vietnam, lie often, lie big, have been generously applied to the War on Terror. Israel has built a culture out of this practice.
We had our two Vietnams. One involved a war, one we fought with no food, defective weapons, no fire support, no air support, hopelessly outnumbered while the other Vietnam partied on. Tens of thousands of our “leaders” lived in such comfort andexcess in Vietnam it is a wonder they would ever leave. Keeping Max Cleland, a real soldier, out of government was important. We remember that one too.
We had two Vietnams. One involved good and decent people who fought with honor, cared for their friends, showed decency and humanity every day, soldiers who are almost all gone, killed in war or dead or dying as veterans. The others? We know who you are. You have gotten away with decades of deception. You were bunglers, cowards andthieves. You are not forgiven. You fill our golf courses, yacht basins, “bankster” investment firms.
For four decades I have run into phony veterans, guys with no military service but a wealth of war stories, gleaned from the imaginary world of movie and TV baloney. The numbers? Maybe 4-500. In 2004, during Rolling Thunder, Henry Sullivan, an Army medic and I polled one group of “Vietnam Veterans” while on the yearly motorcycle run to Washington DC. In a room of 200, there were three Vietnam vets. Henry and I were two of them. People who were, to Henry and I, “vet groupies” were being continually thanked for their service by kind people donating food and drink to what they thought were Vietnam combat vets decked out in ribbons, medals and “biker gang” regalia.
This week, President Obama, in response to what can only be described as “bizarre” policies by the Department of Veterans Affairs in the handling of, not only medical care for veterans but disability compensation processing for PTSD victims, announced he was “loosening” policy restrictions. His new “policy” is nothing new. He is, in fact, requiring Veterans Affairs, to comply with its own rules as they have existed for decades, rules they have never complied with. All of this, of course, is to give recently returning veterans, whose “meltdown” is now a national disgrace, a better chance at survival.
Mr. President, this isn’t quite good enough, not by a long shot.
A flurry of questions have come in about this new ruling, almost every one from a Vietnam veteran denied disability though diagnosed with PTSD. The stories read like so many we have seen for decades, missing files, lost documents, appeals denied for incomprehensible reasons, compensation exams that resembled inquisitions. For every recent returning vet claiming PTSD, and we have nearly 400,000, we have 3 Vietnam vets whose claims were wrongly denied and whose children were denied educational benefits, families that lived in poverty for decades.
Just because America abused and neglected Vietnam veterans for decades and got away with it, doesn’t mean we have forgotten.
Most of the children are adults. Most of the Vietnam veterans who filed claims are dead. With 711,000 “Vietnam survivors” out of 2.9 million, (2009 figure) the problem seems to be correcting itself, as members of our government would like to think. Those who could have done something about it, the senators, the highly decorated rear eschelon “Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon,” the real “heroes” of every war, were then and continue to be silent, almost to a one.
Never in the history of warfare have so many owed so much and done so little to deserve it. Why do you think we are holding up combat operation in Afghanistan? When we destroy our veterans, we kill our military.
In Vietnam, as with Afghanistan, we sent an army to a hopeless war led by the most corrupt leadership in America’s history.
In Vietnam, a generation of Americans was systematically destroyed, with the best and brightest of the generation “doing time” in Vietnam, combat units, while “bottom feeders” sat in Saigon and DaNang. Those shirkers an “no accounts” have given us the America we have today, broke, addicted to propaganda and fear, obsessed with safety, a generation ducking responsibility and leadership, borrowing from tomorrow to steal today.
The number of members of congress who ducked Vietnam through imaginary illness, special arrangements for “safe” National Guard units or simply deferment after deferment created a list of “chickenhawks” that became a national shame. Those that ducked service in Vietnam were the first to push for war after war for the children of those who fought. Who would have imagined this or have believed they could have gotten away with it?
There is a great national movement to forget Vietnam, pay off our current abused “volunteer army” that ten years of war has utterly destroyed and cover up the sins of the past. President Obama believes that fixing a problem 40 years late is enough. I don’t agree. Every vet who was denied 30 or 40 plus years of help, whose kids went without health care, clothing, food, college money or a stable home environment is owed. This is a debt, a real debt that we can put a price tag on. We may not be able to pay the vets, bring them back from the dead, but we can reimburse their children for the suffering our crimes have caused. We now have a generation of “collateral damage,” victims of Vietnam and government duplicity, now raising families of their own. With Vietnam, we started a chain reaction of bitterness, poverty and despair that must be addressed.
We pay for that first, before we buy another weapon, no more aircraft carriers, useless transport aircraft, unusable bombers or new military golf courses.

Only when we recognize the real cost of war will we understand how to live in peace and security.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/13/gordon-duff-vietnam-decades-of-liars-blacken-the-names-of-real-heroes/

chrisb
chrisb

So Roman, you didn’t like my post?

hutz
hutz

chrisb
roman will not say what posts he/she likes.
poor roman .dosnt have any friends . poor roman just a speck of dust in the wind blowing past cow sh*t and becoming infected with anamal feces and spouting out to people that try to make his miserable speck of dust cow sh*t infested life better by debating the worlds problems .
poor ramon has lost his/her way baaa baaa baaa . Come home little black sheep roman .Mommys waiting for you . baaaa baaa baaa shhhhh roman may not like what mama said.

hutz
hutz

Thanks MK keep it up . People like you we need to show both sides of the story . The good side and the huge moutain of problems facing us.

cmych
cmych

Hi Guys,
I’ve been skimming and reading what I can with the little time I now have. Just wanted to remind us all to focus on what is true, good and who we really are – Beings Of Light and Loving. Regarding those here who have posts leaning to the negative side, I guess we can have some understanding that they are “newbies”? But I’d also like to encourage all concerned to not feed the negativity. Just go on with what you know is true, support the positive energy, share from your heart and keep the information coming that has been really great. As I said, I’m not reading all of it in depth, but I’ve seen some great stuff on here. Regarding Ben, let’s keep him in the Light for the highest good and for all of us. I’m not a mental giant like a lot of you are but I learn what I can. Hutz, MK2009, ChrisB, in particular, you guys are so smart and well informed. I also love the comments from those of you who have reminded us of the peace and the loving. My best to all of you.

paladin
paladin

Chrisb

Got an email you can give me?

hutz
hutz

MK I am taking the iodine you told me to take .Thank you . I do feel better .And I am more calm as you can see with my post ro roman .Yes there is a soft side to me lol. meoow meoow

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

You didn’t ruffle my feathers. SC is questioning my integrity, without cause in my opinion. It looks to me like she just doesn’t like the truths I’m telling.

The Simmons fear mongering is a legitimate concern, though I think he may have just destroyed his credibility, time will tell.

hutz
hutz

cmych
Thank you! I do not deserve to be put in company of some of the great minds in this forum . I am not very smart but I do get the picture and while lots of stuff talked about in this room is over my head I still know whom the enemy is and will continue to expose the evil as long as I can .

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

I apologize for the horror of this video, but it shows how things are changing. People in the military assisted in its creation because they no longer believe in what they are doing.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=178606

I can think of no greater gift to this planet than for everybody to realize what an evil game war is. We have to stop this as well as the spread of the so-called “security” apparatus of this country. What is shown on the Washington Post site is not the infrastructure or our defense, it is the iron bars of the cage that they have built around us.

MK

jj59
jj59

mk, they are talking about the WaPo right now on CNN!!!

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Hutz,

I am so glad that you feel better. Do take the other things that I recommended and you will find even more benefits. Now, you know that we all cherish you, Hutz, and we worry about your son and the many challenges that you have had to face…me in particular…but your reply to Roman with all the bleating was not very nice.

We have built a great community here. Let’s not descend into name calling everybody. Let’s try to stick to facts in our responses. That includes me as well as everybody else. Cesar had every right to challenge me to put some meat on the bones…he was right to ask me to provide it. He did not call me names or insult me, he just asked for me to back my thoughts up and that is reasonable…

Please guys, let’s not descend into flame-broiled forum as happens on so many sites.

CHRISB–How are you? Where were you? How are the elephants and dogs? I am designing some very attractive battle armor for them. 😉

Lew, don’t test my honesty on the battle armor 😉

Take care everybody,

MK

jdalton4
jdalton4

Whats your opinion of Tom Heneghan’cedibility?
This is his latest post on Rumormill. Could be that Chris Story and Fulford have gone underground till the dust settles.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=178622

mk2009
mk2009

Dear JJ59,

Nice photo, girl. Please take notes and let us know what happens. I have to pay bills and get this handyman over here to help me get this house ready for sale, so I don’t have time to watch.

BTW, everybody, there is a phone number for “reporting” things to the WaPo. I congratulated them on returning to the newspaper business.

MK

suncrystal
suncrystal

Dear Richard,

How many do you need?

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/peak_oil_globalist_scam.htm

Excerpt:
If we continue to let the corrupt elite tell us we are wholly dependent on oil, we may reach a twisted situation whereby they can justify starvation and mass global poverty, perhaps even depopulation, even within the western world due to the fact that our energy supplies are finished.

Peak oil is just another weapon the globalists have in their arsenal to move towards a new world order where the elite get richer and everyone else falls into line.

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http://vyzygoth.com/Peak.pdf

Excerpt:
Petroleum is not a so-called “fossil” fuel. It is the blood of the earth.

The fossil fuel model of petroleum lends itself to authoritarian ideologies or corporate cartel power. Always screaming about “limited” and “diminishing” supply serves as an important lever of price control and inflation.

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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/oilnotfossilbfuel29sep05.shtml

Excerpt:
…oil is not a fossil fuel. This is a theory put forth by 18th century scientists. Within 50 years, Germany and France’s scientists had attacked the theory of petroleum’s biological roots. In fact, oil is abiotic, not the product of long decayed biological matter. And oil, for better or for worse, is not a non-renewable resource. It, like coal, and natural gas, REPLENISHES from sources within the mantle of earth. This is the real and true science of oil.

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casar1973
casar1973

Mk2009 – what your are posting are very miniscule details in a huge, complex, global, intervowen, picture of patterns, ultimately it doesn´t mean much if it doesn´t mean much to the highest hand. Im not seeing it shaking, Im not hearing that it shakes at all.

Oh, I hear politicians, lesser bankers and institutions and all these guys being all nervous and shaking due to the falling economies etc – but they have nothing in common with the highest hand – they´re just employees who doesn´t own anything.

He who owns the most, decides the most and until you change anything at that level, the elusive core agenda stays the same. And the highest hand expected this sort of crisis to begin with – quite by design.

They´ve had a few setbacks on some points – so far – like on global taxation. But since they own nearly everything, they can stick around and wait until the next strategy kicks in.

I´m not saying fundamental change won´t ever happen nor that one should give up, not at all. But a movement that can not see clearly what is the exacting current reality is delusional and therefore inefficient and potentially misguided.

It is simple to phraze – remove the highest hand from the nations by removing all the debt and resources he owes upon them – and he will disintegrate. As long as he practivally ownes nations, the people and officials one see on television are to be regarded as puppets.

This movement is not as intelligent, co-ordinated and wise as the highest opponent – not yet.

One day they will probably go, but that can be quite far off. Denial is not going to work.

merek

Uncle Ben, We know the Yakusa are not just common criminals.
the Yakusa are finger amputating, tatooted major, criminals
and just as the Mafia goes to Mass and the Russian Mafia are Orthodox, the Jewish Mafia are believers. The Yakusa are heirs to a neolithic belief system “Shinto”,Kama worshiping sometime murders, Christians would call them “Pagans, I hope your friendships don’t piss off a few of the more wiggy bosses or under bosses as you could find yourself absent a few digits or worse you would find yourself the main ingredent
of a Shinto stew with rice.
Dear MK ,thanks for the Vietnam post ,The Last US census
stated that some 14 million men had told the census takers that they were Viet vets when in fact there were only some
One and one half million of us , it took 400 at peak to keep 30 thousand in the field. Looks like the Wannabe’s
have increased exponentialy…..Gee when I served People didn’t even want to talk about their experiences and very few were hired at first too late to make up for that now..
As for the spitters ,I think they may have been seen a few places and it would be hard to disapline a mob with a few Vets ,My experience when I returned to college was very different ,I used my time to explain the war to people who had only seen TV reports, I guess they didn’t hate us as I came within a single vote of Student body President.
Many vets in uniform were catcalled in the big city,
Baby Killers was a common taunt, I heard this my self
on occasion. In the more rural areas folks were more accomadating but Hollywood painted us as mad things subject
to going bezerk and senseless killers.Finding a decent in the post Viet nam era was very difficult ,For example ,In My County they were hiring a emergency service coordinator
with Nuclear monotoring training ,I as a Capt. had just
credentials needed and by the Age of 24 I had supervised combat operations and had managed 400 men and 5 million in equipment., A attractive young woman got the job, she had no real experience. many vets recieved the same experience.
Today, The tale is very different, it seems those bad mouthed Vets have been far more successful than their civilian counterparts.They also have or had fewer incarserated than their civilian counterparts,
If you want a great book Read “Stolen Valor” by Burkett
As It Always Was.

richardterra1
richardterra1

To SC,

These links prove nothing.

suncrystal
suncrystal

LOL!!! You are so funny, Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jj59
jj59

Judgment or Observation by Neale Donald Walsh (author of Conversations with God) July 17, 2010

My dear friends…

I’ve decided that I have to stop confusing the simple act of observation with negativity.

Some people, in an effort to not “put any negative energy into the space,” refuse to say anything about anybody or anything that could be
construed as being negative in any way. And if anyone else says
anything about any person, place, or thing that is not wholly positive,
many people will criticize the speaker for “spreading negative energy.”

Soon, a certain dogmatism springs up around all this, and suddenly it becomes unacceptable in some “new age” circles to do
anything but smile 16 hours a day and say nothing but positive things
about everything. In these circles, when someone offers the least
little comment, prediction, or description that is less than totally
positive, someone else is sure to say, “Are you wanting to create
that?”, or “Why are you creating that?”

(Example: “Gosh, I have a real headache this morning.” “Well, why are you creating that?”)

After a while, people feel so hogtied, they feel so straight-jacketed, that they’re afraid to say anything about anythinganything unless they can glow from head to toe with positivity.

I call this a New Age Bypass. It’s psychic surgery, on the psyche
itself. It can also turn into a game of “make-crazy,” where people
can’t even objectively describe something they’re seeing right in front
of their face without running the risk of being labeled a “downer,” or
a “negative thinker.”

(“The stock market certainly had a bad day.” “Well, aren’t you the downer…”)

Yet an Observation is not a Judgment, and a Description is not a
Condemnation. We would benefit a great deal from noticing the
difference.

It is perfectly okay to say “The rain is coming” when, in fact, you can smell it in the air. I remember a day a few
years ago where I was at a huge picnic, with about 40 or 50 people
attending, when one of the guests happened to say, “Looks like it’s
going to rain.” His wife nearly had a conniption fit. “Don’t SAY that!”
she snapped. “Are you trying to MAKE it rain?”

Now I understand perfectly well that we create our own reality, and I have read all the messages of Conversations with God and virtually every other New Spirituality text that is out there that
says we do so with the triplet tools of thought, word, and deed. I know
all about the As-You-Speak-It, So-Shall-It-Be school of thought on this
subject. I belong to that school. But does that mean that we
cannot even offer a simple observation, bereft of any judgment or
announcement of preference, about what we are experiencing in our
lives?

Of course not. Saying “oh-oh, it looks like rain” does not mean that you are at cause-and thus, at fault-when the rains
come. It simply means that you are observing what is going on around
you. It means that you are aware. And awareness is one of the greatest
attributes that any person could develop.

The message here is: do not substitute passivity for discernment; do not–in the name of
“positivity”–insert total blindness where once there was keen
observation. Covering your ears does not make the wind howl any less,
and putting your head in the sand does not make danger disappear.

The ability to observe the environment around us, the ability to
discern one thing from another, is what comes with evolving to a higher
level of consciousness. Observation is the act of seeing something; it
is the simple act of witnessing without assessing. Discernment is the
act of differentiation; it is the simple act of telling one thing from
another.

Observation is a statement that says “what’s so.” Judgment is a statement that says “so what”? As sentient beings, humans
have a desire to notice what is going on around them. Indeed, they have
a responsibility to do so.

When you consciously and deliberately stop noticing something because you “don’t want to put
negative energy into the space,” you forfeit your most precious gift as
a creative being: the gift of deciding. You cannot decide
what you want, you cannot consciously choose your own future, if you
are refusing to look at what is true so far.

I’m going to keep on working to remove judgment and condemnation from my experience, but
I shall never remove observation and discernment. The teaching is,
“Judge not, and neither condemn,” it is not, “Observe not, and neither
discern.”

Love and Hugs,
Neale.

myra
myra

Jdalton: I’ve read through Story’s reports & he’s either discredited him along with Wanta, or not written favorably about him, I do not recall – see Story’s archives. I sometimes skim his reports. Peace!

richardterra1
richardterra1

To SC,

We’re consuming 9 barrels of oil for every one discovered, we passed the break even point 40 years ago. There’s no legitimate evidence that I’m aware of showing that depletion isn’t occurring in 99.9% of the fields, so the biotic or abiotic origin of oil is immaterial as it pertains to the depletion and limited supply issues.

We can’t continue on this trend without reaching a point where demand out strips supply unless new reserves are discovered or fields start refilling, which if it hasn’t happened by now probably isn’t going to happen.

All that you’ve quoted is a bunch of conspiracy theory, much of which I’m familiar with and deemed to be immaterial to the depletion v discovery facts and figures contained in engineering reports and reserve studies readily available on the internet to anyone who wants to do the research.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Cesar,

I better explain something to you. While I am not a Rockefeller, I used to be in the middle level of some high tech companies. I was always promoted very rapidly because of my ability to see through things, organize and get things done. One of the jobs that I held was to get flown into “hot sites” where the computer system had been down for a few days and immediate resolution was required. I was to fly in and assess the situation. Then I was to determine what resources had to be brought to bear and get the system back up. I never failed. Not once after I visited a site, did their system stay down.

I was put into a job once because the guy who had been running the job could not produce content fast enough. I looked at everything, figured out a new way to use the software and organize the content being produced (without reducing it or making it less valuable). In three weeks, I took a project that was 4 months behind and got it back on track.

There are countless examples of when I have been in a situation where the following occurred: (a) I was told that what I wanted to do could not be done; (b) There were others who had failed at the same task/tasks and (c) There were not enough resources, money or equipment. Yet, in almost every instance, I succeeded in doing whatever it was. This included legislation.

The difference between me and many others that attempted what I succeeded at was simple. I have tremendous will power and great analytical skills. I also have and trust my own intuition.

You can choose to believe that nothing will change. I admit that many big changes are glacial in their pace. That doesn’t mean that things aren’t happening. I have written on here many many times that the real change will begin AFTER THINGS HAVE BEGUN TO CRUMBLE. I have also warned against undue optimism because I believe for many many reasons which I will explain at some point soon…that we are in for a very bad time and very soon.

However, just to show you that I don’t operate in a complete vacuum, let me also say that I am monitoring some interesting things behind the scenes such as accountants involved in areas of the financial world directly connected to the mess at hand. They are extremely nervous.

Please observe the following news item. Angela (Queen of the Nazis) is losing her grip on power. There are a lot of things much like the last Depression happening in the country. It is a matter of looking for them. I plan to put up some of the bank arrest stories as well to show that THINGS ARE NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL.

MK

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,707276,00.html

07/19/2010

Itchy Feet in the CDU
Wave of Resignations Dangerous for Merkel

A Commentary by Roland Nelles

First it was Roland Koch, then President Horst Köhler. Now, Hamburg Mayor Ole von Beust has thrown in the towel. Chancellor Angela Merkel has seen one political ally after another turn their backs on politics this year — and it is a trend that is becoming dangerous for her party.

In German politics, it has long been known as the “feet first rule.” Chancellors, governors, ministers and parliamentarians have long held on to their jobs so tightly, that it is almost impossible to get them to give up their power voluntarily. Instead, either voters or their own parties have to drag them out of their offices — feet first.

The rule, though, no longer seems to apply. On Sunday, Ole von Beust, the mayor of the city-state of Hamburg and a senior member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU), resigned from his position after eight years. He was tanned and relaxed, fresh off from a vacation on the North Sea — and he had had enough.
These days, politicians no longer seem to be in love with their positions. Instead, they simply run out of steam. Nobody forced Beust to resign. No party ally drove the politician away and the voters didn’t vote him out. He is leaving simply because he wants to go.

It has become a trend. In May, the powerful CDU governor of Hesse, Roland Koch, announced that he was calling it quits after 10 years as his state’s leader. Just a few days later, German President Horst Köhler, likewise of the CDU, threw in the towel following a bit of relatively tame criticism in the media. Merkel’s party, it would seem, has become afflicted with a case of itchy feet.

Turning their Backs

Loyalty to the voters, to the country and to their own parties seems to have taken a back seat. In the CDU, a party which has long described itself as being close to the voters, it has become a trend to ignore such values as fealty and obligation. These days, self-fulfilment is the highest ambition of CDU politicians. If they don’t find it in politics, then they turn their backs.

suncrystal
suncrystal

Richard,

If oil were a Real issue, car manufacturers would be tripping over themselves looking for alternatives to fuel consumption. “They” have been telling us for YEARS that oil is scarce.

Short of going down into the depths of an oil well myself where I can observe Mother Earth making more oil, I don’t see how I can persuade you or anyone else why I KNOW there’s no such thing as Peak Oil. Call it woman’s intuition, if you like. All the articles ring True for me.

By the way, lots of oil was recently discovered in Mexico, so your statement that new reserves must be found just came true! 🙂

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Suncrystal,

Using scalar wave technology, oil companies have found enormous deposits of oil all over the world. In addition, there have been articles written about oil being found in fields believed to have been tapped out. Those that proposed the abiotic (?) origin of oil have pointed to this fact as proof of their theory. They believe that oil does replenish over time. I personally don’t believe in Peak Oil due to the origin of the reports. (oil industry)

The bigger issue is when in the hell are we getting off of this disgusting energy source? In my mind that is where we need to go as a planet…let alone a civilization.

MK

richardterra1
richardterra1

Hey Lew,

You want to do some truth divining on SC here? She says that engineering and reserve studies are immaterial and that she knows peak oil is a scam from women’s intuition.

g7enn
g7enn

The Brotherhood of Darkness-Stan Monteith

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml
(Scholarly review of how the Elite took control of the world and who they really are when it comes down to it).

richardterra1
richardterra1

MK,

I’ve seen nothing to verify your position.

suncrystal
suncrystal

Well, MK, it looks like we’re BOTH under fire now. At least I’m in good company – LOL!

Methinks Richard protests too much…

What say YOU, Lew?

Is Peak Oil a hoax/myth, or a Truth?

lew3
lew3

Richard, per my truth testing, peak oil is not true. Abiotic oil is forming deep down and percolating up to the reservoirs above. Of course, I may be wrong but at least in the area of our nutritional supplement dosing, it has worked for 27 years.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Another extremely interesting article about the military, the relationship with Israel and 9/11. I have bracketed interesting statements here and there with asterisks. This is a must-read article. After you have read it, please feel free to use parts of it in a letter to your local newspaper, your Congressmen, the militia, sheriffs and others that you know.

This article fills out the piece run by the Washington Post by providing additional context. Again, THIS SPEAKS TO BIG CHANGES IN ATTITUDE AND ORIENTATION WITHIN THE INSTITUTION OF THE MILITARY. LET’S HELP THEM OUT BY MAKING OUR VOICES HEARD.

MK
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/19/gordon-duff-americas-tarnished-miltiary-partnership-with-israel/

GORDON DUFF: AMERICA’S TARNISHED MILITARY PARTNERSHIP WITH ISRAEL
July 19, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff ·

OUR UNREPORTED ”COLD WAR” WITH ISRAEL
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
9/11 was like Pearl Harbor to America, uniting many, awakening bitter skepticism in a few. Where Pearl Harbor began America’s official role in crushing the Fascist juggernaut that threatened to dominate the world, 9/11 had quite the opposite effect. America’s response to 9/11 was oppression at home and a tirade of frenzied phobic reactions around the world. No American institution suffered more than the military. ****The team of Cheney and Rumsfeld, together since the disastrous Nixon years, began a process of purging America’s military of talent and leadership, instead building a force to serve a sinister agenda of religious heresy and extremist politics.****

Nearly a decade later, it isn’t the economic collapse or the discredited military adventures that have now embittered a military leadership infrastructure that now sees itself as duped, dishonored and discarded. *** A number of factors can be attributed, the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back” as it were but it is 9/11 where things begin to fall apart. *** The cover story, a group of Muslims with box cutters and a few remarkably unproductive hours of pilot training, simply hasn’t held up. America has had many airline hijackings, starting with the 1960s and was under strict terror alert on 9/11, despite the obfuscations of Donald Rumsfeld. ***Top military pilots, among themselves and their fellow officers, voiced doubts about the “twin towers” scenario, doubts that began reaching a quiet crescendo pointing to 9/11 as an “inside job.” *****

With the dozens of conspiracy theories and a weak and implausible cover story, one the 9/11 Commission itself eventually rejected, only one plausible answer was left, an answer very much “not for public consumption.” *** Few Americans know that a team of Israeli intelligence agents were arrested on 9/11 after being observed using “video” equipment to record the planes crashing into the towers. After the disaster, the Mossad agents, soon to be arrested and released by the FBI, began celebrating as though they had completed a successful operation. This enraged New Yorkers who mistook them for terrorists. In fact, New Yorkers weren’t wrong.****

Only top members of America’s military knew the truth, ***the “dancing Israelis” had remotely guided the two planes into the World Trade Center, not simply videoing, itself proof of guilt. Military pilots, in particular, knew the planes were nearly impossible to maneuver at those speeds without Israeli designed auto-pilot systems, not unlike those used on Tomahawk/Cruise missiles. *** Behind a flurry of “conspiracy theories,” many totally implausible, some obvious to military leaders as part of an elaborate deception plan requiring widespread control of media assets, more subtext came to light.

***Though warned of “career suicide” for speaking up, members of the military and, in particular, the intelligence community began putting the pieces together. *** 9/11 was an intelligence operation involving the United States, Great Britain, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Everything was there, finance, private “black ops” contractors, but mostly, ****a pre-staged media frenzy on the front end, counterfeit intelligence on Iraq in the middle and a rigged investigation, the “9/11 Commission coverup” on the backside. It didn’t take FBI and intelligence agency officials long to track 9/11 planning back to 1999, not in Afghanistan but much closer to home. **********

Not a word of this would ever hit the press and any “conspiracy” group that got close to the truth would be shut down or infiltrated quickly. By 2007, undeniable and overwhelming evidence of 9/11 wrongdoing, massive corruption in every aspect of defense and security and the attrition of America’s readiness response capabilities began turning the tide. What had been only “grumbling” about incompetence, political interference with the military and Washington’s “blind eye” to Israeli abuses became a quiet revolt.

The “Minot-Barksdale” nuclear weapon incident that year, one forgotten, unexplained but one haunting us still may tell us how close we came. Nuclear weapons were loaded onto a B-52 at Minot AFB, loaded illegally, bypassing layer after layer of security and control with dozens of military personnel involved in one of the most serious criminal conspiracies in our history. When the plane was recalled and returned to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, carrying at least six nuclear weapons, possibly as many as twelve, America’s nuclear arsenal had been proven to have fallen into the hands of extremist elements.

70 of those involved, Air Force personnel with the highest security clearances in the country, the most heavily screen group in America’s entire military, were discharged for wrongdoing. Since that time, seven more of those involved have died in accidents or by “suicide” including one 4 star general. A cult within the American military, Christian Zionists, had hijacked a plane load of nuclear weapons and were heading to the Middle East on a “mission from G-d.” Was Israel directly involved and, if so, what were the targets?

***The military and intelligence community had, for some time, stopped looking on Israel as an asset or even a benign liability. As early as the 1950s, Israel had organized terror campaigns against Americans in Egypt in order to establish the myth of a worldwide anti-American Islamic terrorist movement. ****

The “Lavon Affair” is suppressed in America’s news, torn out of the history books as is the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. Israeli warplanes, initially disguised to appear as Egyptian, tried to sink an American warship in the Eastern Mediterranean in an attempt to force the United States to invade Syria and Egypt. When the ship failed to sink, all hands aboard, as planned, more planes, these with Israeli markings, were called in followed by torpedo boats. After hours of attack, with 201 of 296 crew members dead or wounded, the ship was still afloat, tattered American flag flying proud. Except for the actions of President Johnson and Admiral Sidney McCain, America might well have gone to war against Israel in 1967.
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In 2008, President Bush signed the Naval Vessel Transfer Act, insuring that Israel have a more advanced navy than any country in the region, guaranteed by US law. Israel has only had two naval engagements in its history, one against an American ship and the other against the unarmed Mavi Marmara. Both attacks, causing the deaths of American citizens, were performed using American weapons.
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In 1987, Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard was sentenced to life in prison for the single most devastating assault on America’s security in her history. 110 CIA agents behind the Iron Curtain were captured, tortured and executed, destroying America’s intelligence network at the height of the Cold War. ***Military experts from the former Soviet Union claim that information they received from Israel, information stolen by Pollard, nearly pushed Russia to starting a nuclear war against the United States, a war Russia knew they could easily win using information supplied by Israel.*****

Despite the fact that Israel has made Pollard’s birthday a national holiday, history books in the United States still claim Pollard was working for South Africa and Pakistan. Did the undercurrent of suspicion and hatred of Israel by the military and intelligence services because of Pollard create the need to stage 9/11?

In 1991, three nuclear weapons, nearly identical in size to the Hiroshima bomb, “went missing” in the Middle East. These weapons had been built, between 1975 and 1988, by Armscor , a South African/Israeli company, part of ten that were to make up the nuclear portion of apartheid South Africa’s illegal inventory of weapons of mass destruction.

South Africa and Israel, aided by the Soviets, built, not only these nuclear weapons but an extensive array of biological and chemical weapons as well, some of which were used in Africa by the South African military. Israel and South Africa tested one of these nukes on September 22, 1979. The VELA satellite system detected the blast, confirmed by acoustic sensors, and established a detailed analysis of the materials and design.

These missing nukes were hijacked while being shipped to British forces in Oman, ***part of a convoluted deal arranged by Margaret Thatcher and involving current Prime Minister David Cameron, then 28, and Dr. David Kelly, British weapons scientist now believed murdered after threatening to go public about these missing weapons.****

These three missing nuclear weapons, now believed to have been stolen by Israel, were the secret rationale for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. When they weren’t located, Israel claimed they had been shipped via ambulance to, first Syria and then Lebanon to be hidden in an X-ray facility to avoid detection. America wasn’t fooled by these ploys and those privy to the “lost nukes,” those at the highest levels, had caught Israel again.

****Then, in 2009, something utterly unforgivable happened. On May 25, 2009, North Korea tested its first successful nuclear weapon. It was confirmed to be one of the three missing nukes believed held by Israel, built in South Africa. Did Israel, third largest arms exporter in the world, sell a nuclear weapon to North Korea? **** Israel, known for peddling military technology to rogue nations, technology begged, borrowed or stolen from the United States, had crossed a line.****

The military had long been resentful of Israel’s habit of selling off munitions the United States ”stored” in Israel for “safe keeping.” Several billion dollars worth of munitions stores had been shipped to Israel under a loose agreement allowing Israel to replenish her stocks from US supplies. This “off the books” military aid to Israel, was supposed to make Israel more secure. In fact, however, Israel has been selling these American owned munitions around the world, some to America’s potential adversaries including Venezuela.

****Military contracts themselves have been a bone of contention. With US unemployment levels at their highest since the Great Depression, billions in defense and ”Homeland Security” contracts are going to Israel, a country importing labor from Africa and Asia to keep its arms factories manned. American companies that complain about being “run over” by Israeli lobbyists are quickly silenced. Not only is the American economy being negatively impacted but America’s defense industries as well. American companies, some involved in our most secret projects, are being forced by the Israeli lobby in Congress to take on partners in Israel, sharing technologies that soon end up in China, Singapore or India.****

Currently, Israel has received a $1.8 billion stockpile of munitions for a war on Iran they will never fight or, perhaps a new assault on Gaza, weapons from the depleted stockpiles of the American military. ****Even more American munitions have been offloaded in Georgia and, perhaps shipped to forward bases in Azerbaijan to support an Israeli sneak attack on Iran. At risk, of course, are American troops in Iraq and American ships in the Persian Gulf. There are no Israeli forces within striking distance of Iran. Our military is more than aware of this fact.****

Today the Washington Post reported the following:
* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings – about 17 million square feet of space.

* Many security and intelligence agencies do the same work, creating redundancy and waste. For example, 51 federal organizations and military commands, operating in 15 U.S. cities, track the flow of money to and from terrorist networks.

* Analysts who make sense of documents and conversations obtained by foreign and domestic spying share their judgment by publishing 50,000 intelligence reports each year – a volume so large that many are routinely ignored.

What isn’t being mentioned is the fact that hundreds of the government organizations are run by dual citizens, Americans holding Israeli passports or that a significant number of the private companies are Israeli owned or managed by individuals with strong ties to Israel, ties that, if examined,
would represent a clear conflict of interest and security threat. **** If America was allowed to openly acknowledge the areas of adversariality with Israel that have long existed, a significant number of the 854,000 people holding top-secret security clearances would immediately be deemed a risk.****

Thus, terrorist plots that show the obvious signature of the Mossad, such as the Christmas 2009 ”crotch bomber” in Detroit, can never be properly investigated. ** Hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent with one purpose, support Israel’s political and economic aims even if it endangers the security of the United States.***

Israeli involvement in weapons deals, Venezuela, North Korea, Turkey, India, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and dozens of other nations, creating a complex web of conflicting alliances makes the run up to World War I child’s play in comparison. ***With allegations of Israel managing, not only the money laundering but transshipment of $65 billion in heroin from Afghanistan into Russia and the west, the penetration of Americas intelligence and defense infrastructure has become obvious, particularly to the military, long resentful and suspicious of the CIA-Mossad alliance.***

***With years of dominance of both Defense and Homeland Security by Israeli-Americans and, not only the top levels of the Pentagon staffed by Christian Zionists but service academy admissions stacked from the rolls of this same extremist minority, abuses were meant to continue for years unchallenged. This, however, has not been the case. Continual rumblings, always quickly denied, flow out of the Pentagon, challenging our perception of Israel as an ally or strategic partner. In fact, numerous reports citing Israel as a threat have been quashed. ****

With two missing nuclear weapons in play and heavy handed interference in Washington politics and the American media, the current push for war with Iran has many military leaders increasingly watchful of staged incidents. With no serious intelligence backing Iran’s nuclear capabilities and the recent revelations from a kidnapped Iranian student purported to be one of their leading nuclear scientists, the scenario intended to duplicate the US invasion of Iraq is not progressing well. Evidence of the Saudi-Israeli connection, made public by this incident, has been suppressed in the media but is carefully noted by military intelligence analysts.

A “timely” attack on the US, by necessity devastating in nature and tied to Iran, perhaps using more kidnapped Iranian citizens, is expected. With congress and the press in lockstep with Israel, will the military be enough to stand up for American security and independence?

chrisb
chrisb

Casar,
HAd another thought here but there were others before us in history that were warned about certain events to come. Few paid attention to the signs but sure enough those who ignored the signs paid with their lives and the lives of their children and family and friends. The concentration camps were full of these denyers who were too arrogant to think that something bad could happen to them. If the signs would have been written and a fed-ex letter delivered to each one of them , I am sure they would have left town but there was no letter and there was no television to tell people to evacuate, there were just clues that something was happening and that they would be in danger if they stayed put. To this day very few people cannot look back without tremendous emotion of what happened during that era in history. We hope ( not based on our faith) that something is in the works. There is a history here of what is hopefully about to take ploace and some of us knew the agenda 20 years ago. Now whether the agenda gets accomplished is another thing but all these things like C. Story and others have not surfaced to give us a weekly thrill but to bring things to the surface and hopefully wake up the majority of people who have been sleeping for far too long. Most are still sleeping again if I told you of the Stealth Bomber technology in the 50’s would you have believed it. If I told you of remote viewing uses in our govt. in the 70’s would you have believed it. Soooo whether you are a skeptic (which is not necessarily a bad thing) you will still be a witness to what is going on and what may be about to happen. I hope we all experience unbelievable things. For me a hole in one would be a good start.

cmych
cmych

Hi Everyone,
Found this article on Rumor Mills News. It’s very important if you want to avoid being another statistic. A close friend of mine died a few years back from ALS. I always wondered whether it was because she had decided to drop a lot of weight and changed her diet. From what I read in this article, I am wondering whether the low saturated fat diet could have been responsible for her death.
http://foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com/
There’s more info than I’ve posted, especially for sources for foods, books, etc. on this link.

THE FOOD FREEDOM REVOLUTION: Taking Back Control Of Our Health
The Politics of Food, Real Nutrition, Healthy Recipes,Organic Gardening,Herbs,Foraging….and More

MOUNTAIN ROSE HERBS
Cultivating Herbal Friendships
Monday, July 19, 2010
THE TRUTH & LIES ABOUT SATURATED FAT

This morning I was looking for evidence that a high refined vegetable oil/low saturated fat diet may be partially responsible for our autoimmune and infection related degenerative disease pandemic we are experiencing. I’ve read that the Lyme spirochete metabolizes cholesterol somehow, that low cholesterol may somehow play a role in Alzheimer’s disease and other forms of brain dysfunction. There have also been several very good studies done by Judith Miklossy and some by Alan McDonald that show that Alzheimer brains are often riddled with spirochetes…..lyme spirochetes and other types of spirochetes. Our brains are largely composed of cholesterol and cholesterol preforms other important functions in our bodies.

Could low cholesterol diets be responsible for much of our suffering. Take notice of the yellow highlighted phrase about halfway down which I feel points to what may be one of the main reasons for our decreased immunity and susceptibility to dementia. The USDA is proposing new dietary guidelines which FURTHER reduces the amount of saturated fats in our diets. Could this be why the authorities are so confidently predicitng a large increase in Alzheimer’s in the future? We’re not talking about just an increase in the elderly population due to aging baby boomers. We may be talking about artificially caused brain dysfunction which may be partially due to Governmental nutritional recommendations and corporate advertisng.

Of course there is much more research to do in this area and I think that people are beginning to wake up to this fact and that yes indeed the low fat diet may be one of the biggest scams in history. I found the following article by Ian McAllister to be very interesting. You may also want to check out the video…..The Oiling Of America…….in the righthand side bar at the top of this blog.
SATURATED FAT & LOW CHOLESTEROL FRAUD SCAMS AND KILLS MILLIONS
By Ian McAllister
http://healthforu.info/health/diethealth/Saturated-Fat-Food-Lies.php ….SEE WEBSITE FOR REFERENCES

The saturated fat and low cholesterol fraud earns the hoaxers billions of dollars each year and kills millions in America alone each year.

Lie 1. Saturated fat is bad for you so you must use unsaturated vegetable oils
Lie 2. Cholesterol is bad for you so you need a low cholesterol diet
Lie 3. Unsaturated vegetable oils are good for you
As I mentioned in my weight loss diet home page, the first recorded heart attack was in Britain in 1878. In the early 1900s Dr Dudley White (referred to as the founder of cardiology) said that he wanted to find out more about the new disease reported in European medical literature, but he had to wait until 1921 before he met his first heart attack patient.

During last century consumption of vegetable oils rose continuously, and so did the incidence of heart attacks. Now that we have got the facts out of the way, let’s go back to the story of the lies.

Start of the scam
After the first world war the vegetable oil manufacturers were in trouble. Their main market was for manufacture of paints and varnishes and putty, because these all harden when exposed to Oxygen. That meant that they couldn’t use them for food because they would form plaque in the blood vessels and cause heart attacks.

It would have cost the manufacturers a lot of money to buy pigs to try out the diet (the pig is the closest animal to humans as far as nutrition is concerned) but their salesmen persuaded pig farmers to buy the oils to feed to pigs. The farmers were delighted when the pigs put on weight explosively on the oil diet. That meant that they could cut down on feed costs because the pigs were slaughtered sooner. The salesmen weren’t quite as pleased, because it would need fast talking to sell fattening oils to humans.

Then the farmers ran into trouble. The pigs getting a diet of unsaturated vegetable oils died of cancer or heart attacks before they could be slaughtered, even with their early obesity.

Fortunately for the manufacturers humans don’t keep records of what they eat, so they can’t usually associate what they have eaten with their health. So the salesmen set out to persuade humans that a diet rich in unsaturated vegetable oils was healthy.

They met high sales resistance because everyone was fond of butter, but the butter manufacturers started to centrifuge out the butter instead of churning it, resulting in a tasteless mess. So the margarine manufacturers were able to claim that “you can’t tell margerine from butter” once butter had no taste.

People still took pride in using butter, so the manufacturers bribed a medical research worker to invent the cholesterol lie. Cholesterol is used widely by the body, especially by the brain. If the liver stopped making cholesterol we would rapidly become stupid. When you cut down on cholesterol in your diet your liver has to manufacture a little more, but that is easy because your liver makes a lot more cholesterol than you could possibly eat.

A couple of decades ago the man who invented the cholesterol lie admitted that he had been bribed to do so by the makers of margarine to discourage the use of butter in the diet and present margarine as a hearth healthy diet item, even though it is full of deadly trans fatty acids. It worked…

I expected the cholesterol myth to vanish overnight, but the story was suppressed by the media, and we still hear over and over again the lies about low cholesterol diets. Research workers have been trying for half a century to prove that cholesterol is bad for you but have failed, because it has to be made by your body for you to remain healthy. Your brain is half cholesterol, so if you interfere with your liver production of cholesterol you become more stupid.
Suppression of evidence
C.T. McGee tells an amusing story in his book published in 1993 “Heart Frauds: The Misapplication of High Technology in Heart Disease” Cour D’Alene, ID MediPress, p155-156. An old baboon was so much trouble that they decided to get rid of him by giving him a heart attack. They gave him only eggs to eat for a year. He still hadn’t died so they killed him and examined him for cholesterol deposits in his blood vessels. There were none, so the information was suppressed.

This is typical of modern healthy diet research. If results are unfavorable to a pet theory they may appear in some obscure journal that nobody reads, but if the media take up the story they will be threatened with loss of advertising revenue.

The advantage of this lie is that if your cholesterol doesn’t come down they can say that you aren’t trying hard enough with your low cholesterol diet and sell you drugs to lower your cholesterol by interfering with the action of your liver. The media trumpet the results of tests showing that the drug lowered heart attacks by 0.1% but they keep quiet about cancer deaths increasing by 5% in the same experiment.

We are told that the plaque in our blood vessels is cholesterol. Well some of it is. Most of it is made from unsaturated vegetable oils in our diet, not the result of high cholesterol diets. Plaque is formed like a scab on a cut finger, to cure a breach in the skin. Unfortunately that can clog a blood vessel completely. The answer is to prevent the blood vessels being damaged in the first instance and to make sure that your diet has all the vitamins and minerals that you need to keep your blood vessels healthy and the cholesterol liquid enough to be carried round to your brain.

We are told that Eskimos don’t get heart attacks, because their diet prevents blood clotting. That is true…they die of internal bleeding instead, referred to as “strokes”.
Cellular damage of low cholesterol vegetable oil diet
Unsaturated oils are drying oils. That means that they harden when exposed to oxygen, whether it is in putty, or varnish, or your blood stream.

Our ancestors lived on a diet high in saturated fats. Dr Yamori reported that rats given high cholesterol and saturated fat diets had fewer strokes. Saturated fats don’t produce free radicals, so antioxidants were not as necessary to our ancestors as they are in today’s diets.

Most people know now that margarine is dangerous because of the trans fatty acids, but they don’t realize that when they heat up any unsaturated oil they are also creating toxic products that don’t happen when you use lard or butter for cooking.

The membranes round the cells in our body are mostly fat. Saturated fats are C shaped and interlock to produce a strong membrane. Unsaturated oils are straight so don’t lock together, so weaker membranes are produced, more open to infection.

What is the solution
Refuse to accept the lies about saturated fats in your diet and cholesterol in your diet and polyunsaturated vegetable oils for cooking. Go back to using saturated fats in your diet. It is more healthy for your heart.

There is something even better. It is a saturated fat, but a short-chain saturated fat, not long-chain like the animal fats. The short-chain fat is used by your body in a completely different manner. You still need animal fats for all the old uses like building cell membranes, carrying fat-soluble vitamins, and building your brain, but the short-chain fats are used instead as a source of energy.

Better still, ordinary fats are used as fuel when the short-chain fats are burned for energy, so you have a healthy diet that will let you lose weight, and keep your brain and your immune system, and your heart healthy.

Coconut oil is the best short-chain oil but palm oil is also very good. I use about 100mls (7 tablespoons) of coconut oil each day, and the Filipinos have coconuts as more than 60% of their diet, but if you prefer to limit yourself to three tablespoons each day that is fine. If the only change that you make in your diet is to get rid of vegetable oils and use coconut oil instead you will lose weight.

As usual the less foods are processed, the better they are for you, so if you can get good fresh coconuts they are much better than oil. However the nuts I buy in my supermarket are mostly moldy and I have to throw them out.

The saturated fat and low cholesterol fraud is probably more deadly than all the others, because heart attacks, cancer, and strokes are the greatest killers after medical errors.

But conventional medicine pulls out all the stop with the next lie, making you feel guilty for the death of a loved one.

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Sunday, July 18, 2010
NEW STUDY LINKS AUTISM TO VACCINES
http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/07/new-study-shows-vaccines-cause-brain-changes-found-in-autism.html
New Study Shows Vaccines Cause Brain Changes Found in Autism

By Dan Olmsted and Mark Blaxill

Abnormal brain growth and function are features of autism, an increasingly common developmental disorder that now affects 1 in 60 boys in the US. Now researchers from the University of Pittsburgh and Thoughtful House Center for Children in Austin, Texas, have found remarkably similar brain changes to those seen in autism in infant monkeys receiving the vaccine schedule used in the 1990’s that contained the mercury-based preservative thimerosal.

The group’s findings were published yesterday in the journal Acta Neurobiologiae Experimentalis. They used scanning techniques that assessed both brain growth and brain function in the same animals over time. The research team was able to see differences in the way the brains of vaccinated and unvaccinated animals developed. Scans were performed before and after the administration of primary MMR and DTaP/Hib boosters that were given at the human equivalent of 12 months of age.

Throughout the study period, vaccinated animals showed an increase in total brain volume – a feature of the brain in many young children with autism – when compared with unvaccinated animals. However, a specific part of the brain associated with emotional responses that is thought to be important in autism, the amygdala, did not show abnormalities until after the 12-month vaccines had been given. In addition, after the 12-month vaccines only, the functional brain scans showed significant differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. These functional scans looked at the activity of receptors for morphine-like compounds (opioids) that may play a role in the brain of children affected by autism. Vaccine administration was associated with an increase in opioid binding activity in the amygdala compared with a decrease in the unvaccinated group.

The results indicate that multiple vaccine exposures during the previous 3-4 months may have had a significant impact on brain growth and development in ways that are consistent with the published data on autism. For the amygdala, the novel findings of abnormal growth and function appear to be a function of more recent vaccine exposures – the 12-month primary MMR vaccine and the DTaP and Hib boosters.

In an accompanying editorial Dr. Kris Turlejski, the Editor-in-Chief, described the findings as “alarming”, “support[ing] the possibility that there is a link between early immunization and the etiology of autism.”

In the same primate model, the research team has already identified delayed acquisition of vital brainstem reflexes in infants exposed to the thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccine on the first day of life, compared with unvaccinated animals. A larger, second phase study is currently underway to see if these findings can be replicated.

Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who is not a listed author but whose support in the design of the study is acknowledged, said “I hope the model will not only provide important insights into the origins of autism, but also ways of safely testing possible new autism treatments and vaccines.”

References:

Laura Hewitson, Brian J. Lopresti, Carol Stott, N. Scott Mason, and Jaime Tomko. Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study. Acta Neurobiol Exp 2010. 70: 147–164

Kris Turlejski. Focus on Autism Editorial Comment Acta Neurobiol Exp2010. 70: 117–118

Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism. Mark Blaxill is Editor-At-Large. Their book The Age of Autism; Mercury, Medicine and a Manmade Epidemic is available for pre-orderHERE.

VACCINES: WHAT CDC DOCUMENTS and SCIENCE REVEAL…DVD
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Saturday, July 17, 2010
A MUST READ…. IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH

Trick and Treat : How ‘Healthy Eating’ Is Making Us ILL

By Barry Groves

It is becoming increasingly obvious that despite modern dietary advice, the incidence of degenerative disease is rising precipitously. Chronic illness, in its many different forms, has become so prevalent that Generation X and even their Baby Boomer parents are beginning to view this alarming trend as normal. It seems that we are all so busy flitting from one medical specialist to another that no one has a chance to step back and evaluate the predicament we are in. This distressing situation of increasing frailty and disease should be a signal for us to examine the very foundation of mainstream nutritional guidelines. The timing of this book review happens to coincide with the updating of the USDA Food Pyramid. The general advice has been to increase grains, fruits and vegetables and to decrease the consumption of protein and fat. The proposed 2010 USDA recommendations reinforce and extend this basic advice of increasing starch in the diet while lowering the intake of fat and protein. Could the exponential rise in the incidence of diabetes be related to the USDA recommendations?

Just when I begin to think that I have now read all the crucial information there is to read concerning nutrition, another book comes along that fascinates, educates and intrigues me. Trick and Treat is one of those books. I couldn’t put it down. The author, Barry Groves takes the increase in degenerative disease very seriously. He does an amazing job of aiming his laser pointer at the very institutions and nutritional concepts that he feels are responsible for the world’s declining health. This book is so packed with helpful information that it is difficult to know where to begin. Perhaps the limerick from page 36 can summarize the main emphasis of this book.
“Any doctor today must have stealth
As he deals with his patients’ ill health
Let me tell you my friend,
What goes on in the end
Is a State-Sanctioned transfer of wealth”

The only way we can remedy a problem is by understanding its origins. I feel that Barry Groves does an excellent job of communicating to us what he believes is the foundation of the world’s growing health crisis. He places much of the blame on the pharmaceutical companies, the processed food corporations, government health agencies, and other facets of the health industry. Groves shows us how money, power and control are acquired through presenting false and harmful nutritional recommendations to the public as fact. He goes on to demonstrate how this false nutritional information causes disease, which the corporations and related government agencies then profit from. He cautions us not to place too much blame of the doctors because Groves feels that many doctors are unwitting pawns in this underhanded scheme. Many physicians believe that what they are being taught by the pharmaceutical companies is truth. In fact…..the drug companies are the main source of information and play a very large role in the education of doctors. The medical industry funds the universities, teaches the doctors at medical conferences and through drug representatives. Very often the medical journal studies are biased towards the companies which fund them.

In chapter one the author covers what I feel is an extremely important topic……astroturfing. I was very interested in this section as I have witnessed this strategy being used in Lyme disease support/activism groups, cancer support groups, M.S support groups….etc. and I feel it is imperative for patients to be aware of this tactic so as not to be influenced and harmed by it. Groves explains astroturfing on page 35. “So, if you can’t trust your doctor as an impartial source, who can you turn to? One answer might seem to be an independent patient support group that supplies helpful information and advice on specific disease. Sorry, that probably won’t help either: these groups are also targeted by the drug companies. They call it ‘astroturfing’.

The Ekbom Support Group which helps advise people with restless leg syndrome was discovered to have been ‘astroturfed’ by Glaxo-Smithkline (GSK), the manufacturer of Adartrel, a drug for restless leg syndrome. GSK helped Ekbom set up its website and Ekbom was found to be actively promoting Adartrel. This underhanded trick might never have come to light if the website hadn’t started to promote the drug some eight months before it had been approved. The British Medical Journal investigated 28 other support groups. They found that 27 were being funded by drug companies, and were presenting information that was, at best, partial. The journal found that they all seemed to be pushing specific drugs to treat conditions, while downplaying the risks.”

Astroturfing does not just involve drug companies. Examine a support group or activism group you may be interested in and also check for ties to blood testing companies, research institutions and or medical equipment providers. I have found that the groups which are controlled in this manner very rarely focus on true nutritional solutions.

Groves doesn’t just dwell on the causes and problems. At the same time that he is warning us and exposing the deceit, he is also educating us concerning what we can do to become healthier. Much of his diet information coincides with that of Dr. Price and Dr. Pottenger. Some of the subjects he covers in this amazing book are: 1. Soy products, fluoride and how they affect the thyroid gland. 2. The phony war on salt. 3. Important information on sunlight exposure. 4. Moderate exercise versus extreme exercise. 5. The importance of a low carbohydrate high fat diet. 6. Arthritis 7. Valuable information on obesity and heart disease. 8. How diet affects the stomach and the brain 9. An informative chapter on diabetes….and much more. Tick and Treat is a treasure- trove of helpful information

Near the end of the book the author talks more about solutions and gives us hope that people are beginning to wake up and how the backlash has begun. He emphasizes the dangers of monopolies and how monopolies inevitably use their power to gain even more power and control. Groves tells us “ Professional associations, standard setting bodies, and individual institutions around the world are beginning to disentangle themselves from some of the unhealthy flows of money and influence. These are indications of a desire on the part of concerned doctors to redefine fundamentally the relationships between doctors and drug companies.”

At the end, Groves reminds us that ultimately we are responsible for our own health. Part of our suffering has been due to our willingness to give this responsibility over to others….doctors, government and corporations. Now is the time to educate ourselves…to do our own research and to question any information delivered to us by the above sources. Groves encourages us and informs us that we do have the power to change our unfortunate circumstances. The author’s parting words are….. “ Price found that it took only one generation of eating such food (processed) to destroy these peoples’ health and immunity. My hope is that it will take only one generation to restore it.”

I truly loved the Book Trick And Treat – how ‘healthy eating’ is making us ill
and would recommend it to anyone who wants to be enlightened and empowered.
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010
ARE USDA GUIDELINES DANGEROUS?
Scientists Claim: USDA Guidelines Cause Obesity, Heart Disease, Diabetes

http://tinyurl.com/3yt63l3

July 13, 2010
By admin
I made my com­ments on the USDA diet plan (which is caus­ing obe­sity) in an ear­lier post. I said the USDA food pyra­mid is mainly a grand government-backed mar­ket­ing scheme for fac­tory food for the big food cor­po­ra­tions. Today I will say it seems awfully sim­i­lar to the mar­ket­ing by HHS/CDC and their phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal com­pany part­ners for all these vac­ci­na­tions being forced on babies and tod­dlers. There is an appar­ent cor­re­la­tion between the two. Now here is what came out in a news release today.–Augie

CRITICS ASSAIL USDA DIETARY GUIDELINES
High-Carb, Low-Fat Diets Cause Obe­sity, Heart Dis­ease, Dia­betes, Sci­en­tists Claim

Com­mit­tee for a Healthy Nation
Weston A. Price Foun­da­tion, member
Wash­ing­ton, D.C.
Kim­berly Hartke, Publicist
press@westonaprice.org
703–860-2711 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 703–860-2711 end_of_the_skype_highlighting, cell 703–675-5557 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 703–675-5557 end_of_the_skype_highlighting

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CRITICS ASSAIL USDA DIETARY GUIDELINES
High-Carb, Low-Fat Diets Cause Obe­sity, Heart Dis­ease, Dia­betes, Sci­en­tists Claim

Mon­day, July 12, 2010–WASHINGTON, D.C.–The USDA Dietary Guide­lines are a lead­ing cause of the Amer­i­can health and obe­sity cri­sis, accord­ing to sci­en­tists, nutri­tion­ists and con­sumers who tes­ti­fied last Thurs­day at a USDA pub­lic hear­ing on the report of the Dietary Guide­lines Advi­sory Com­mit­tee (DGAC). Dis­senters argued that the pro­posed 2010 revi­sions to the Dietary Guide­lines are worse, and will not pre­vent obe­sity and will only increase degen­er­a­tive dis­ease in the U.S.

Those tes­ti­fy­ing against the Guide­lines focused on the Committee’s mis­use of sci­en­tific data to jus­tify a high-carbohydrate, low-fat diet. Dr. Jeff Volek, sci­en­tist and aca­d­e­mic researcher at the Uni­ver­sity of Con­necti­cut, noted that the DGAC report ignored sci­en­tific stud­ies show­ing the effec­tive­ness of low car­bo­hy­drate diets for weight loss. “Amer­i­cans deserve to have offi­cial sup­port for the low-carb dietary option,” he said.

“I have fol­lowed the work of the DGAC all the way through this process as an aca­d­e­mic project. I have dug into their nutri­tion evi­dence library,” said Adele Hite, a grad­u­ate stu­dent in nutri­tion and pub­lic health at the Uni­ver­sity of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. “Time after time, the sci­en­tific evi­dence the DGAC cited to oppose low-carb diets actu­ally says the exact oppo­site of the Committee’s con­clu­sions.” Hite tes­ti­fied to los­ing sixty pounds on a low-carbohydrate diet.

Mor­ton Satin of the Salt Insti­tute sharply crit­i­cized the Committee’s rec­om­men­da­tion to reduce sodium con­sump­tion to 1500 mg per day. “The Com­mit­tee is sug­gest­ing that Amer­i­cans con­sume less than 4 grams of salt per day. No mod­ern soci­ety con­sumes so lit­tle salt, mak­ing this pro­posal noth­ing less than a call for an uncon­trolled exper­i­ment on more than 300 mil­lion Amer­i­cans.” Satin pro­vided ref­er­ences show­ing the crit­i­cal role of salt in diges­tion, blood pres­sure reg­u­la­tion and brain development.

Four of the dis­senters pre­sented the views of the Nutri­tion and Metab­o­lism Soci­ety, a group of nutri­tion researchers and med­ical pro­fes­sion­als who have stud­ied the ben­e­fits of a low-carbohydrate diet for weight loss, insulin reg­u­la­tion and pro­tec­tion against chronic dis­ease. “We expected the new guide­lines to rec­og­nize cur­rent research that vin­di­cates sat­u­rated fats as a cause of heart dis­ease and weight gain, and to acknowl­edge the demon­strated ben­e­fits of lower car­bo­hy­drate diets,” said Dr. Richard Fein­man of Down­state Uni­ver­sity, New York.

In response to the DGAC report, the Nutri­tion and Metab­o­lism Soci­ety recently launched the Com­mit­tee for a Healthy Nation (CHN). “The CHN is a work­ing coali­tion of pro­fes­sion­als who oppose the low-fat, plant-based thrust of the DGAC report. We feel strongly that the sci­en­tific evi­dence omit­ted from or mis­rep­re­sented by their report must be con­sid­ered in the final out­come,” said Feinman.

“Five years ago, I was the lone voice tes­ti­fy­ing against the guide­lines,” said Sally Fal­lon Morell, pres­i­dent of the Weston A. Price Foun­da­tion and mem­ber of the CHN. “This year I was happy to be joined by mem­bers of the med­ical and research com­mu­nity in oppo­si­tion to USDA’s unsci­en­tific pre­scrip­tion.” Fal­lon Morell’s tes­ti­mony focused on nutri­ent defi­cien­cies com­mon in those fol­low­ing low-fat diets.

Dr. Fein­man chal­lenged the DGAC panel to an open pub­lic debate on the sci­en­tific evi­dence under­pin­ning the Guide­lines. “Our nation’s cit­i­zens need a range of dietary options to choose from, not a one-size-fits-all approach. We must allow for lifestyle, activ­ity lev­els and metab­o­lism as fac­tors in choos­ing an opti­mal diet for each individual.”

The Com­mit­tee for a Healthy Nation mem­ber­ship is open to pro­fes­sion­als and orga­ni­za­tions inter­ested in devel­op­ing guide­lines that will offer a range of choices to the Amer­i­can public.

The Com­mit­tee for a Healthy Nation is a project of The Nutri­tion & Metab­o­lism Soci­ety, a 501©3 non­profit health orga­ni­za­tion pro­vid­ing research, infor­ma­tion and edu­ca­tion in the appli­ca­tion of fun­da­men­tal sci­ence to nutri­tion, par­tic­u­larly ded­i­cated to the prob­lems of obe­sity, dia­betes and car­dio­vas­cu­lar dis­ease. Their office is located at 24 Spruce Street, Bed­min­ster, N.J. 07921. For fur­ther infor­ma­tion or to join the CHN, con­tact by E-mail: info@nmsociety.org or call 908–326-6464 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 908–326-6464 end_of_the_skype_highlighting. Visit http://metabolismsociety.org.

MEDIA CONTACTS: Kim­berly Hartke, 703–675-5557 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 703–675-5557 end_of_the_skype_highlighting press@westonaprice.org

Pam Schoen­feld, 609–439-8237 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 609–439-8237 end_of_the_skype_highlighting Pam@MetabolismSociety.org

To learn more about how we have been deceived and made ill by false dietary information…..and what REAL foods our bodies need to maintain optimal physical and mental health, I highly recommend the following 2 books. The information in these two books is presented in a clear, easy to read manner. I was very impressed with both of them.If we want to improve our health and society as a whole, our bodies need to be healthy and our brains need to be able to think rationally.Learn what the REAL healthy fats are and what they can do for you. The food guidelines promoted by Officialdom are being used to keep us physically ill and mentally unfit.Depression, anxiety…etc can most definitely be a result of a diet too high in carbohydrates and too low in fat and protein. The drug companies are then more than happy to provide antidepressants and other brain altering drugs. Do yourself and society a favor and read these two books……and then let me know what you think of the ideas presented in them.
TRICK AND TREAT

DEEP NUTRITION :WHY YOUR GENES NEED TRADITIONAL FOODS
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Monday, July 12, 2010
BRAIN DAMAGING SUBSTANCES
Dumbing Down Society Part I

Foods, Beverages and Meds

Jun 28th, 2010
By Vigilant

Is there a deliberate effort by the government to dumb down the masses? The statement is hard to prove but there exists a great amount of data proving that the ruling elite not only tolerates, but effectively introduces policies that have a detrimental effect on the physical and mental health of the population. This series of articles looks at the many ways the modern man is being dumbed down. Part I looks at the poisons found in everyday foods, beverages and medications.

The theme of dumbing-down and dehumanizing the masses are often discussed in articles on The Vigilant Citizen. The presence of those concepts in popular culture are, however, only the outward and symbolic expression of the profound transformation happening in our society. Scientific data has been proving for years that governments around the world are tolerating the selling of many products which have a direct and negative effect on cognitive and physical health. As we will see in this article many everyday products cause brain damage, impaired judgment and even a lower IQ.

Is a dumber population something that is desired by the elite? Hitler once said “How fortunate for the leaders that men do not think.” An educated population knows its rights, understands the issues and takes action when it does not approve of what is going on. Judging by the incredible amount of data available on the subject, it seems that the elite want the exact opposite: an unhealthy, frightened, confused and sedated population. We will look at the effects of medication, pesticides, fluoride and aspartame on the human body and how those products are being pushed by people from inside the power structure.
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READ THE FLOURIDE DECEPTION
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Saturday, July 10, 2010
USDA IS MAKING US SICK & INFERTILE WITH THEIR DIETARY GUIDELINES

They call the pyramid above, the Diabetes Food Pyramid. Maybe they call it that because it causes diabetes

Current dietary guidelines place far too much emphasis on grains, and beans and discourage the use of saturated fats and organ meats. Many are beginning to connect this poor advice to the diabetes explosion we are experiencing.We are told that saturated fats clog our arteries and organ meats are toxic because they accumulate the poisons. Perhaps eating the organs of factory farm animals is not a good idea but meat, fat and organs from grassfed animals are super nutrient dense foods which contain converted substances from the vegetation that they consume. These converted substances are easier for us to digest and assimilate than the forage itself. Below is a doctor speaking out against the current guidelines …which he believes are causing much sickness and infertility. There are two more testimonies at the following link http://tinyurl.com/379hv3m

ORAL TESTIMONY TO THE USDA DIETARY GUIDELINES COMMITTEE

July 8, 2010

By Dr. John Salerno and Linda West Eckhardt, Founders – The Silver Cloud Diet

The proposed 2010 Dietary Guidelines continue the misguided shibboleths against saturated fats and animal foods rich in nutrient dense fatty acids, including egg yolks, butter, cream, whole milk, cheese and fatty meats including bacon as well as animal fats for cooking. In my 20 year practice of medicine in New York City, I have treated many patients whose health had been severely compromised by excluding these necessary nutrients in their daily diet. It is my experience, backed up by scientific studies, that low fat diets have caused many of today’s lifestyle ailments including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and stroke.

Basic biochemistry shows that the human body has a high requirement for saturated fats in the cell membranes, brain and other organs. If we do not eat saturated fats, the body makes fat from refined carbohydrates, leading to rapid weight gain and chronic illness.

The proposed guidelines will exacerbate existing nutrient deficiencies that I see in my practice every day. Common deficiencies in vitamins A, D, K2 and E which are found in animal fats, vitamins B12 and B6, found in animal foods, as well as minerals including iron, calcium and zinc which require vitamins A and D for assimilation. It is my experience that these deficiencies can be easily corrected by a proper diet of whole foods, organic if possible, with naturally occurring animal fats. (give anecdote here)

I have seen, in my practice, children as young as 8 years old, suffering from type 2 diabetes, an ailment that used to be seen only in later middle age. Why are these children getting diabetes? Low fat milk, soy milk, apple juice, too many processed carbohydrates, and insufficient natural animal fats. Fortunately, type 2 diabetes can be stopped in its tracks by a radical shift in the diet. Give those children whole milk, plenty of protein and natural animal fats, get the sugars out of their diets, and their diabetes will correct itself, their weight will normalize and they will be healthy.

Our misguided dietary public policy has created a society of very sick people. For the first time in history we see a generation who may not live as long as its parents. Particularly in the lower classes without access to healthy, whole foods, we are creating a society of people who will not be well, who will require huge public assistance and health care, and all of it could be alleviated by a proper diet.

From the viewpoint of a practicing physician, I can tell you that our industrial food complex, in concert with big pharma have colluded to create a society where people eat nutrient-empty processed foods, and are than given an ever larger regimen of pharmaceuticals to try and turn back the inevitable ill health and death that awaits them.

What should the Food Pyramid look like? I have brought along a food pyramid that I designed when I was working as a young doctor in Dr. Robert Atkins office. You will see the differences in our Food Pyramid and the USDA’s version. (show the pyramid).

Besides the fact that our enormously powerful industrial food/farming lobby has exercised great control over public policy for at least twenty years, since I have been observing it, the results, in the time that I have been practicing medicine, have been dreadful.

When I was a boy, growing up in an Italian American family, my grandfather had a big vegetable garden out back that fed our family. He lived to be 95 years old and was strong and active until the day he died. I try to feed my family, whole, organic foods to this day. My six year old son, rides with me in bicycle races for as much as 45 miles at a time. This child is healthy, vigorous, and cheerful. I feed him….

Is it impossible that Americans could eat as well as their grandparents? Not at all. With the growing movement towards healthier whole foods being presented not only at home, but in public schools, institutions, and food service operations, Americans are beginning to get it.

At The Silver Cloud Diet we particularly recognize the need for saturated fats, for health, long life, and weight loss. Saturated fats fight inflammation, support the immune system, support hormone production and protect against cancer and heart disease.

Last but not least what I see in my practice that is most heartbreaking is the rising tide of infertility. Now that we have an entire generation of young women who have practically grown up eating a low fat diet, we see a pandemic of infertility. The simple truth is that vitamins carried in saturated animal fats are critical to reproduction. The 2010 Guidelines proposed by the USDA will increase infertility in this country. This is tragic and entirely avoidable.

The knee-jerk recommendation to eat more whole grains, does not take into account the fact that whole grains are extremely difficult to digest and an overconsumption of rough whole grains can contribute to digestive disorders such as celiac disease and irritable bowel syndrome.

The Silver Cloud Diet recommends that people eat a diet of whole, unprocessed foods, organic if possible, that provide an abundance of nutrients chosen from the following groups:

Animal foods: meat and organ meats, poultry and eggs from pastured animals, wild caught fish and shell fish, whole raw cheeses, milk and other dairy products from pastured animals.

Fats and oils: unrefined saturated and monounsaturated fats including butter, lard, olive oil, cod liver oil and coconut and palm oil.

Fruits and Vegetables. Fresh, organic if possible, preferably locally grown, either raw or cooked into soups and stews

Nuts, legumes, and grains. Eat a handful of nuts daily for vitamin E and trace minerals. Once goal weight is reached eat beans and lentils, brown rice, and whole grain cooked cereals for breakfast.

We do not recommend processed foods with long lists of ingredient including chemicals you cannot pronounce. No refined sweeteners including candy, soda, cookies, crackers,cakes, chips or other snacks. Avoid white flour products such as pasta and white bread. Avoid processed foods including modern soy foods, polyunsaturated and partially hydrogenated vegetable oils and fried foods.

As we say at the Silver Cloud Diet, take a giant leap backwards. Eat the way your grandparents ate. You take care of your body and your body will take care of you.

If you would like to know what your ancestors ate, why they ate it, how they prepared it and what their health was like, I would highly recommend two important classics……
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration and…….

Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats

You are going to hear me talk about these two books over and over again. I believe they hold the key to figuring out what BASIC type of diet humans really need and thrive on. Do yourself and your family a favor and read these two books.
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Friday, July 9, 2010
CHEESY BROWN RICE SUMMER CASSEROLE

This is a recipe that can be adapted to one’s personal taste. If you are a vegetarian and do eat eggs, milk and cheese, then you could omit the meat and add a few more veggies. I like to use sweet italian sausage. If you want to be really healthy and use grassfed, additive free meat, you can get the sausage here US Wellness Meats sells quality grassland meat products – Visit us Online!

I will list the original ingredients in the recipe below but you can substitute almost any vegetable for the broccoli and any meat for the sausage. I haven’t tried seafood in it but perhaps even shrimp or crabmeat would work. In the photo above I used leftover ham instead of the sausage and peppers and carrots from the garden…instead of the broccoli. It’s fun trying the different combinations. Despite the fact that mainstream nutritional advice tells us that saturated fat and protein should be limited in our diets, saturated fat is a necessary element for health….especially the health of the brain which is largely composed of cholesterol.

1lb sausage (preferrably from free range animals)
4 eggs (preferrably from free range chickens)
3 cups of cooked brown rice
1 bag of frozen chopped broccoli (cooked)
1 small jalapeno or other hot pepper (chopped)
2 cups of shredded cheddar cheese
1 and one half cups of milk
3 cloves of garlic minced
1 small onion finely chopped
salt and pepper to taste
1/4 cup grated parmesan cheese
1 cup of whole grain breadcrumbs

Preheat oven to 350
Cook rice and broccoli ahead of time and set aside. Cook sausage, hot pepper, onions and garlic in a stovetop to oven skillet. I use a bit of virgin red palm oil to saute everything in. It gives the casserole a pretty yellow orange color…but you can use any healthy fat , such as coconut oil, butter…etc. Whisk milk and eggs together in a separate bowl. Add grated cheddar cheese to the milk and eggs.

I don’t drain the sausage onion mixture unless there is way too much fat. Remember, our ancestors ate alot of animal fats and did not have the degenerative diseases we have today. Now, incorporate the rice and broccoli into the sausage mixture and evenly distribute. Then pour the milk egg and cheese mixture over the sausage vegetable mixture in the skillet. Sprinkle the breadcrumbs over the top of the sausage mixture and then sprinkle the parmesan cheese over that. Cook at 350 for about 45 minutes or until golden brown.
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PLEASE PASS THE MOOSHINE

PLEASE PASS THE MOOSHINE
By Marjorie Tietjen

Throughout history people around the world have consumed unpasteurized and unhomogenized milk products, along with other unprocessed foods, with resulting vitality and strong constitutions. It is only in recent times that this nourishing food has been subjected to high heat and other unnatural processes.

In the book “Enzyme Nutrition”, the author Edward Howell, expresses his concerns. “Medical enthusiasm for milk as a therapeutic agent suffered an abrupt ending with the advent of pasteurization and it’s killing of milk enzymes. An important conclusions emerges from studying the long history of milk as food and medicine: When one takes enzymes away from milk, it loses some of it’s health value and most of it’s curative properties. The virtue of effective foods resides in their possession of all the nutritional factors nature gave them. The status raw milk gained as a remedy for chronic diseases, throughout hundreds of years, vanished with the coming of pasteurized milk.”

If fresh unprocessed milk, from grass fed cattle, is so beneficial for humans, where did the pasteurization process originate and why?

MILK FROM FACTORY FARMS

In the 1800’s many distilleries began to appear in American cities and as the cities grew, pasture lands began to disappear. A cheap source of food for the cows housed in the emerging factory farms, was the swill or refuse from the nearby distilleries. Even though this waste product lacked the nourishment of the cattle’s natural diet (fresh grass), it did cause the cows to produce more milk at less cost. Despite the increased profits and the increased production of milk, the overall health of the cattle suffered greatly. Because the distillery slop was not the natural diet of these animals, they became emaciated and sickly. There were other factors which also contributed to the unhealthy state of the cattle and the milk. These animals were packed into extremely crowded areas where they stood in their own excrement and were not allowed to move for up to 18 months….if they lived that long.The mortality rate in these dairies was extremely high.

People began acquiring illnesses such as diphtheria, tuberculosis and scarlet fever. Often these illnesses were traced back to the milk produced in the distillery factory farms. When animals are raised under unhealthy conditions and as a consequence lose their immunity and vitality, we can logically predict what will happen to the next consumer who is higher up on the food chain. “We are what we eat” is not just a flippant unscientific wives tale. This statement can be proven if we will only take the time to observe this obvious example of cause and effect.

Similar conditions exist today in the modern factory farms. The animals live in very close quarters, receive no exercise and are fed mostly grain, instead of their natural diet of fresh grass. They are given hormones to force them to produce more milk than they would under natural conditions. When the focus is on quantity, the quality of the milk decreases. Antibiotics are also used extensively and traces wind up in the milk. All of this will consequently affect the health of the milk consumer.

Concerns over high yields and profits are the driving motives behind the continued adulteration of one of our most valuable health resources…….unprocessed, full fat, pasture fed milk. Due to this economic pressure, it is illegal in most states to sell unpasteurized milk. Consequently, those who have realized the many benefits of unprocessed milk will go to great lengths to obtain their “Mooshine”. Some people travel long distances across state lines. Others have developed cow share programs in order to circumvent this unwanted and unneeded law. When one buys shares of a particular cow, then legally this means the shareholder owns part of the cow and is therefore allowed by law to drink the unprocessed milk of this cow. You can find out more information concerning obtaining raw milk in your area by visiting http://www.rawmilk.com/.

I am grateful to live in Connecticut where it is legal for small farmers to sell unpasteurized certified milk to stores or directly ….on the farm to the consumer. To be certified to sell unprocessed milk, the farm must comply with strict health regulations and the milk is periodically tested for unwanted bacteria. For those of you who have never tasted grass-fed, full fat, unprocessed milk, I want to express how vast the difference is between the untreated farm fresh milk and the processed factory farm milk. Fresh unheated wholesome milk from a certified farm is so delicious that once most people have tasted this natural healing elixir, they will never go back to the processed milk.

BUILT-IN IMMUNE FACTORS
Cows who are allowed to graze on uncontaminated pastureland and who are fed a minimum of grain, produce milk which has built in protective factors. Raw unheated milk is designed for mammals whose immune systems are immature. Unpasteurized milk contains inhibins. These are elements which hinder the growth of bacteria. Heating milk inactivates many of these protective factors and in so doing it encourages the growth of harmful bacteria.
(-Dold, H., Wizaman, E., and Kleiner, C., Z. Hyt. Inf., “Antiseptic in milk,” The Drug and Cosmetic Industry, 43,1:109, July, 1938.)

Another benefit of consuming food products from grass-fed cattle, is the abundance of conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) present in the milk and the meat of these animals. CLA is an omega-6 fatty acid. In the book “The Untold Story of Milk” the author, Ron Schmid ND, talks about the disease protection provided by this important fatty acid. “Nonfat dairy products contain no CLA. A recent article in “The Journal of Dairy Science”, reported that milk from grass fed cows contains up to five times more CLA than milk from conventionally fed cows.” Studies have shown that CLA has strong anticancer effects. For example, rats fed CLA at 1.5 percent of their total calories showed reduction of tumor size of up to 60%. CLA may help explain the lowered incidence of breast cancer in women working on farms in the Finnish Milk Study.”

HEAT SENSITIVE ENZYMES IN MILK:

LIPASE – aids in absorption and digestions of milk fats

PHOSPATASE – helps in the absorption of calcium and other minerals.

LACTASE – promotes the digestion and absorption of lactose.

Pasteurization of milk seriously alters the structure and activity of the fats, enzymes, proteins and sugar present in unheated milk. The heating process also kills the “good bacteria” which colonizes our digestive tract and helps to create our second immune system. When the essence of a natural food is destroyed, it can no longer work in harmony with the body to produce health, immunity and vitality. Is it any wonder that pasteurized homogenized milk has become one of the most highly allergenic foods?

Milk has been highly promoted as a bone strengthening food. The baby boomer generation was raised on large quantities of pasteruized milk products and has also been encouraged to take plenty of calcium supplements. It appears that this generation is experiencing an extremely high incidence of osteoporosis, despite taking the previously mentioned precautions. Of course there are many factors involved with the absorption of calcium but could pasteurization (the inactivation of phosphatase) be helping to promote the high incidence of osteoporisis we are experiencing? Is the destruction of this enzyme preventing a large portion of the calcium in pasteurized milk from being absorbed?

Most of the vitamin C found in raw milk is also destroyed during the heating processs. This lack of vitamin C has actually produced scurvey in infants fed unfortified pasteurized cow’s milk. For a basic understanding of the negative effects of processed food on the human body, I would highly recommend the book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Dr. Weston Price. This book is a classic, a comprehensive study comparing the bone structure and overall health of people who lived in remote areas of the world and ate a natural unprocessed diet, to those who lived in the “civilized” areas and were being introduced to the processed modernized foods. The many photos in this book clearly show the obvious physical degeneration in the populations who consumed the processed foods.

If one does not have access to unprocessed milk, one way to get back some of it’s nutritious protective properties is to ferment the pasteurized milk. The process of fermentation has long been used by many cultures around the world to preserve and to naturally add enzymes and nutrition to the food. In a future issue of Peer Observations I will talk more about fermented foods and how easy it is to make your own probiotics ( aged foods which contain high enzyme activity and other health building properties).

One of the other possible health risks associated with processed milk is the fact that it is homogenized. This is a process which consists of the breaking up the natural sized fat particles into very unnatural small size particles ( a process used so the fat does not rise to the top of the milk). There are legitimate concerns as to the effect that this process may have on our health. Considering that homgenization is employed soley for convienence purposes, we should be questioning whether this step needs to be eliminated from the milk manufacturing process. For more information on homogenization, politics and the health benefits of unprocessed milk, I highly recommend Dr. Ron Schmid’s book, The Untold Story of Milk, Revised and Updated: The History, Politics and Science of Nature’s Perfect Food: Raw Milk from Pasture-Fed Cows

In order to preserve the integrity of our food supply ( one of our most precious natural resources ) we need to first become knowldgeable as to what is being done to our food and why it is being done. One will learn why pasteurization and irradiation is degrading our national health instead of improving it. Killing the life force of our food is not in our best interests nor is it for our protection. Once we understand the political and economic reasons behind this needless processing of our food, then we will be able to address this situation and take action. A good place to begin is with the books that I mentioned previously and at the http://www.realmilk.com/ website.

Let’s claim our inherent right to food the way nature intended it to be.

jdalton4
jdalton4

Peak oil is a distraction. Its not important. Stan Meyers discovered a free energy alternative that would make oil obsolete. The Cabal murdered him. Thats important.

richardterra1
richardterra1

Somebody call the ostrich herder, somebody left the gate to the pen open.

hutz
hutz

I am having a credit card bill burning tonight with hot dogs and marshmallows . I will never pay them . After my land is squared away I am going underground . Can anybody steer me to a place to get a new ID? I need one for my son as well.
Thanks

kohala889
kohala889

Dalton, you’re right, oil is the past. Water fuel (hydrogen) and radiant energy (Tesla) are the future.

Hutz posted the link below.

Unlimited electricity could be made available anywhere and at any time, by merely pushing a rod into the ground and turning on the electrical appliance. Homes, farms, offices, factories, villages, libraries, museums, street lights, etc., could have all their lighting needs met by merely hanging ordinary light bulbs or fluorescent tubes anywhere desired- without the need for wiring -and produce brilliant white light 24 hours a day. Motor energy for any imagined use such as  industrial applications, transportation, tractors, trucks, trains, boats, automobiles, air ships or planes could be powered freely-anywhere on the planet from a single Magnifying Transmitter. This new form of energy even had the ability to elevate human consciousness to levels of vastly improved comprehension and mental clarity. Undreamed of therapeutic applications to improve human health and to eliminate disease conditions could have been achieved fully 100 years ago had Tesla been allowed to complete his commercial development of Radiant Energy. But powerful barons of industry, chiefly in the person of John Pierpont Morgan, colluded to deny him the financial backing he needed and in doing so, effectively denied mankind one of Nature’s most abundant and inexhaustible gifts of free energy.

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml

hutz
hutz

Monday, July 19, 2010
Proof BP and our government is lying
Submitted by Nancy – Thanks

Map of the live ships in the Gulf of Mexico, combined with the ROV camera names (ships) confirm the locations of the methane (gas) eruptions…and that there is SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT on the sea floor (other than the BOP) that is leaking.

video link:[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe74fp3twXQ

link to live map of ships in Gulf:
[link to http://www.marinetraffic.com]

http://tentdwellers.org/bp_cams.php

jdalton4
jdalton4

richardterra1 and hutz
You two are a team. A very, very, intelligent team. Im getting that loud and clear.

I ask you both – turn your wonderful minds toward the prospect of an abundant society. It will happen much much quicker with your help.

g7enn
g7enn

Col Fletcher Prouty Explains how oil came to be classified a fossil fuel
(It’s all about creating the highest world price-all a Rockefeller scam).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=157tZk2G4Mk

Peak Oil Propaganda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QARLFV5LHI

Myth: The World is Running Out of Oil (Peak Oil)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHD4U2q_p4c&feature=related

Russia Proves ‘Peak Oil’ is a Misleading Scam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5mu3y_b8A&feature=related

hutz
hutz

jdalton4
That is the second time I have been accused of being intelligent today . Stop it! I am a real dummy really . Richard is way past my pay grade lol.
Sorry for the negative stuff but roman attacked the forum as a whole.
Richard is way over my head .
jdalton4 Also I am the foremost RAP supporter here and you can’t get more abundant than that .
May light and love shine on you.

chrisb
chrisb

Paladin, if you have Lew’s email, send him and he will send mine. Don’t want to post here.

hutz
hutz

Yea g7en. Thank you for that I was just getting ready to ask what peak oil was . lol

hutz
hutz

I just saw where Glenn beck might be going blind .Hope not.

jdalton4
jdalton4

chrisb
These guys have the ability to scan all e-mails, anyone’s, anytime, anywhere. There are no secrets from the Cabal. Ignore their tactics and keep the forum going. Otherwise they win.

jj59
jj59

huntz, that was sad…I watched too.

goadrian
goadrian

hi again
As I posted in the past I’m working on the “free-energy” devices from the open source community.
I said I will report to you back on my finding.
1. I got a set of plans and I’m doing a projection on cost and availabilities of parts ( I expect to take at least 2 months to get this going and build one). Again I will need support as is clear we will need to ” work ” and create real changes and real alternatives to oil, nuclear power, coal plants, massive hydro.
Again I’m asking you for support and I’m doing to see if you may have a mind to change from “all this talk” and just do it. Let’s do it now.
A.

kohala889
kohala889

Adrian, here’s a link to Tesla Engine Builders site in case you haven’t seen it.
http://www.teslaengine.org/main.html

donalda1
donalda1

GoAdrian, You may reach me through my blog site.
I am very interested in some of the “new” technology.

Donald

http://hawkslandingranch.blogspot.com/

donalda1
donalda1

J Dalton, While I agree with you that there are no secrets and no privacy I prefer to make them work a little for it!
Why make it any easier than necessary!

2cents worth

Donald

jana
jana

Dear ChrisB:

You wrote: “…there is more information of substance that has come from the people on this blog than from Ben so treat your subscription as a way to meet people of like minds…..”

I totally absolutely completely utterly agree with you and once again you took my thought and put it into letters.

I have posted here few times that it is NOT always Ben who is posting his newsletters. He has his reasons which is fine and at the same time he is charging for his newsletters. I perceive he also has some sort of responsibility to deliver at least little more valuable information besides lessons on Yakuza and assassins.

But hey, you people here are great so it is all worth it.

jdalton4
jdalton4

goadrian,
You dont give us much to go on. Publish everything you’ve got – all the links to plans, your cost estimates, bills of material – the works. My guess is you wont need any funding except an equity loan. Better still form a local user group with complementary skills and barter your way into free energy.

goadrian
goadrian

HI jdalton4

I send a link with 3 of this devices in the last blog or two.
This links show video and more.
Yes I’m looking for funding, as you know all the issue with the “free – energy” is that is not free. Cost money. But for me is more, is how this group will work on such work. As the group is “BS” on everything I’m trying to bring a “positive” work flow. As at the end is up to us to make it and government all the time will be against it. As you all know the “suppression” is so high. But now is so much “open source” out and we can do some of it, at least we can do it for our self and myself I’m working on the pole shift and we will need independent energy in that situation. So think about it.
This is not information , is do it.
A.

richardterra1
richardterra1

To mk,

If you study torture, the only nation where a higher percentage of the population polls higher than than the U.S. in the support of torturing human beings as being an acceptable practice, is Israel. These are obviously very sick societies.

For some facts and figures, from polls, university studies, etc. as to how degenerate a lot of americans are, you can start at the wikipedia article on torture.

Edge
Edge

Adrian-I am interested, but live north of your border in the
pacific time zone–It would be nice to be in touch with
someone closer, that a person could compare notes, plus
local materials or parts available—

jdalton4
jdalton4

Goadrian,
What you are asking is impossible. We have to learn to be self sufficient and make these devices from our own local resources. Otherwise the Cabal will put a stop to it. They can stop one large source but they cannot stop millions of people working quietly in their basements. The only thing we can share is information. The rest is up to the individual. Look at Steven Greer. He’s been trying for three years to fund a measely 3 million dollar research facility and acquire technology just for testing purposes. He’s nowhere. And if he gets close to success I suspect the only thing he’s go to achieve is a short life. His strategy fails because it relies on the existing system. We have to create a new society which is based on cooperation and local skills, not profit and mass production.

Pieter de Waard
Pieter de Waard

MK, perhaps it is better not to put lengthy articles on this blog. The new blog is only 1 day old and already getting unmanageable long. Since you also give the link to the articles, it makes no sense to copy/paste all those pages of text.

Edge
Edge

jdalton4– I fully agree with you–

jj59
jj59

huntz, go here. At about the 53 minute mark, Tim T is speaking. It’s all good news!
http://www.voiceamerica.com/voiceamerica/vepisode.aspx?aid=47458

kohala889
kohala889

John Bedini’s website has all the hardware available to build your own “energizer” (zero point energy generator) in kit form. He was a pioneer in the field.
http://johnbedini.net/

“This new power for the driving of the world’s machinery will be derived from the energy which operates the universe, the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun and which is everywhere present in unlimited quantities.” Nicola Tesla
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htm

What is unknown to the general public and to the majority of the mainstream scientific faculties is that there exist a non thermal energy field which has been used to produce FREE energy. Nikola Tesla called this field “ether” or “Aether” as did many others before him. Tesla was one of the first inventors to build devices which could tap this field as an energy source.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/zeropointenergy.htm

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

I worked in heavy military electronics as a toolmaker for a while. So I’m familiar with what it takes to build this new energy stuff. Are you aware of any of these over unity plans and kits that you’re posting links to, or are aware of, that actually work and provide proof of concept or better yet something that you can actually use?

hutz
hutz

Yes JJ . I am listening .
folks tune in .
Waking Up In America with Doctor Valerie Kirkgaard, Listen as she Interviews California Coordinator Kelby Smith and CW Wright; RAP…….Its A Done Deal! Its really True.

Fast forward to 52:19 and pick it uo from there
http://www.voiceamerica.com/voiceamerica/vepisode.aspx?aid=47458

hutz
hutz

nice picture JJ

getem
getem

Hi Ben & All

Kohala889

Every time I read something you have written, I am nodding my head in agreement. You seem to be on the same page as me in a lot of things.

Having said that, have you heard of Nathan Stubberfield? He was a guy who lived in the 1800’s and had his house on electricity, and lit with electric lights inside and out, from the source. All the townspeople didn’t know what to make of it. When he died, after a few days of not seeing him, some townspeople entered his home. I am assuming it was winter time, because they said it was lovely and warm and this heat was coming from electrodes on his mantle I believe. Another person who has been wiped from our history books.

Do you read per chance Nexus Magazine. I subscribe to this wonderful publication and I can’t tell you all how much I have learned from it.

hutz
hutz

IS THIS YOU MK?
Monday, July 19, 2010
WAS TIM TURNER TRAINED TO SUBVERT PATRIOTIC GROUPS?
Rumormill News

READER MK WANTS TO KNOW….WAS TIM TURNER TRAINED TO SUBVERT PATRIOTIC GROUPS?
Posted By: Seawitch
Date: Monday, 19-Jul-2010 18:32:36
FROM READER MK:
Didn’t you or another poster here explain that Tim Turner used to work for “DHS” America’s version of the KGB? Why is it surprising that he is doing what he was trained to do which is to subvert patriotic groups?
Maybe somebody should poke through the Top Secret Washington site put together by the WaPo and see if there are locations relating to all this government spying on Americans in places where Tim has shown up. That might clarify things
a bit.
MK

Edge
Edge

JJ – nice pic. with smile–
Take care

kohala889
kohala889

Getem, yes I have heard of Stubblefield, one of the earliest to use radiant energy. I’ll check out Nexus Mag. Jerry Decker’s site, Keelynet.com also has a wealth of info.

Richard, if you know what it takes to build the new energy stuff, then surely you’ve heard of John Bedini’s work. You seem to be asking for first hand proof which I cannot give you because I have not seen one in operation. But the kits on Bedini’s site are indeed for actual use. More than that, I can’t say. I did buy one of his battery chargers which uses an energy pulsing system to rejuvenate useless 12v batteries and it worked well.

hutz
hutz

Brown Beret Caught In Explosive Racist Rant Against “White” America..
http://www.resistnet.com/video/video/show?id=2600775:Video:2389043&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video
BEING MARRIED TO THIS “WOMAN” WOULD INSPIRE THOUGHTS LIKE “I GOT A NEW SCOPE, SO I DON’T MISS MY WIFE ANYMORE”
LMAO

jj59
jj59

thanks edge, huntz, mk, you guys are sweet! I just thought it was time to take off the scarf and coat since it is in the 90’s here now! LOL

hutz
hutz

NOT AS SWEET AS YOU jj

hutz
hutz

Holden Hydro Revolution, New 2 Stage Thrust Tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cV4SDlZHfo

jdalton4
jdalton4

kohala889
Do you know anything about John Keely. I’ve read a lot about him and he seems like a genious almost on the order of Tesla but Ive never seen any working plans or models of his machines. Dale Pond seems to promote his theories but his site doesnt contain working plans. The reason i ask is because of the simplicity and practicality of his basic theory that a fundamental vibration can be easily multiplied in excess of 50 octaves and at these frequencies can effect sub atomic structures, making energy and forming new elements.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Hutz,

That was me posting on Rumor mill. I was responding to everybody becoming angry at Tim Turner’s activities. I remembered that somebody had posted something about him working for DHS earlier.

GoAdrian, if you could share a little bit more about the manner in which your device works, I am sure that we would be interested in hearing about it. Just as Ben and countless others have pointed out, there are devices that have been suppressed. Somebody asked about working prototypes of such devices in a rather derisive manner. I suggest that he or she go check out the Orbo by Steorn which requires initial current, but then provides more power than is put in (which is the definition of over unity).

Kohala, thanks for the Bedini remark.

Danwyo, I only produced a very tiny portion of the TOP SECRET WASHINGTON REPORT by the WaPost. The portion that I put here did not convey the overall sense of the report which was definitely anti-proliferation of the security apparatus. It is well worth reading and sending copies of to your Congressmen/Senators and governors. I especially recommend the map of where the installations are across the country–it is quite horrifying.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, I recommend that everybody go read the story on VeteransToday.com about the failed alliance with Israel. It specifically addresses many of the same problems that I personally have with the growth of the “security” agencies. It also points out the tremendous redundancy and lack of accountability. Neither the Vets Today story or nor the WAPO story are disinfo. They are warning about the same issues which is exactly what you are concerned about Danywo.

I posted the article from Vet’s Today, but I am thinking that I must have posted it accidentally in one of the other day’s posts. I apologize. It is a very important story.

Now, as to the various barbs, innuendos and suggestions relative to my thought process on whether the NWO/etc. is succeeding or not. Actually, while I am on the topic of those who are baiting me on a variety of topics, let me say this. I agree that you have every right to disagree with me–provided that it is in a civil manner. However, the fact is that even if I were to provide PROOF of what is going on, you would still dispute it.

JJ59 made an excellent point. We are all blessed with discernment. We can choose to decide what our own interpretation of events will be. We choose to embrace that explanation of the realities around us that we want to choose. I am not a prophet nor am I commissioned to provide the answers to all questions posed here in the BFC. Even if I were, those who choose to see things differently will try to demonstrate that what I have written is incorrect.

SO IN THE INTERESTS OF THE MANY, RICHARD, CESAR ETC., LET ME SAY THIS… I don’t see things the way that you do. I am not going to argue or attempt to disprove what you have decided to embrace as your reality. That is your choice. I withdraw from the field of battle.

cmych, thank you for your comments about light and love. That is the realm that I want to stay in.

If anybody finds the article that Kohala and Getem referenced, I would like to get the cites so that I can read it, too.

SunCrystal, LOL.

ChrisB, my own tough little beasties, Teeny Barkemada and Chiquilla Senile stand ready for their assignments. They have had their dentures filed to razer points (they do need to use jaw guards when not in action) and they have the requisite spike-studded harnesses. Due to their small size, they use their agility to wreak havoc on the lower extremeties of those that cross them in battle.

MK

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Marek,

I wrote down the title of that book. I cried when I read the article about Viet Nam. Too many wonderful young men from my high school and college years died there.

MK

mk2009
mk2009

Read this article in conjunction with the WaPo story for greater effect

MK
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GORDON DUFF: AMERICA’S TARNISHED MILITARY PARTNERSHIP WITH ISRAEL
OUR UNREPORTED ”COLD WAR” WITH ISRAEL
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
9/11 was like Pearl Harbor to America, uniting many, awakening bitter skepticism in a few. Where Pearl Harbor began America’s official role in crushing the Fascist juggernaut that threatened to dominate the world, 9/11 had quite the opposite effect. America’s response to 9/11 was oppression at home and a tirade of frenzied phobic reactions around the world. No American institution suffered more than the military. The team of Cheney and Rumsfeld, together since the disastrous Nixon years, began a process of purging America’s military of talent and leadership, instead building a force to serve a sinister agenda of religious heresy and extremist politics.

Nearly a decade later, it isn’t the economic collapse or the discredited military adventures that have now embittered a military leadership infrastructure that now sees itself as duped, dishonored and discarded. A number of factors can be attributed, the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back” as it were but it is 9/11 where things begin to fall apart.

The cover story, a group of Muslims with box cutters and a few remarkably unproductive hours of pilot training, simply hasn’t held up. America has had many airline hijackings, starting with the 1960s and was under strict terror alert on 9/11, despite the obfuscations of Donald Rumsfeld. Top military pilots, among themselves and their fellow officers, voiced doubts about the “twin towers” scenario, doubts that began reaching a quiet crescendo pointing to 9/11 as an “inside job.”

With the dozens of conspiracy theories and a weak and implausible cover story, one the 9/11 Commission itself eventually rejected, only one plausible answer was left, an answer very much “not for public consumption.” Few Americans know that a team of Israeli intelligence agents were arrested on 9/11 after being observed using “video” equipment to record the planes crashing into the towers. After the disaster, the Mossad agents, soon to be arrested and released by the FBI, began celebrating as though they had completed a successful operation. This enraged New Yorkers who mistook them for terrorists. In fact, New Yorkers weren’t wrong.

Only top members of America’s military knew the truth, the “dancing Israelis” had remotely guided the two planes into the World Trade Center, not simply videoing, itself proof of guilt. Military pilots, in particular, knew the planes were nearly impossible to maneuver at those speeds without Israeli designed auto-pilot systems, not unlike those used on Tomahawk/Cruise missiles. Behind a flurry of “conspiracy theories,” many totally implausible, some obvious to military leaders as part of an elaborate deception plan requiring widespread control of media assets, more subtext came to light.

Though warned of “career suicide” for speaking up, members of the military and, in particular, the intelligence community began putting the pieces together. 9/11 was an intelligence operation involving the United States, Great Britain, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Everything was there, finance, private “black ops” contractors, but mostly, a pre-staged media frenzy on the front end, counterfeit intelligence on Iraq in the middle and a rigged investigation, the “9/11 Commission coverup” on the backside. It didn’t take FBI and intelligence agency officials long to track 9/11 planning back to 1999, not in Afghanistan but much closer to home.

Not a word of this would ever hit the press and any “conspiracy” group that got close to the truth would be shut down or infiltrated quickly. By 2007, undeniable and overwhelming evidence of 9/11 wrongdoing, massive corruption in every aspect of defense and security and the attrition of America’s readiness response capabilities began turning the tide. What had been only “grumbling” about incompetence, political interference with the military and Washington’s “blind eye” to Israeli abuses became a quiet revolt.

The “Minot-Barksdale” nuclear weapon incident that year, one forgotten, unexplained but one haunting us still may tell us how close we came. Nuclear weapons were loaded onto a B-52 at Minot AFB, loaded illegally, bypassing layer after layer of security and control with dozens of military personnel involved in one of the most serious criminal conspiracies in our history. When the plane was recalled and returned to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, carrying at least six nuclear weapons, possibly as many as twelve, America’s nuclear arsenal had been proven to have fallen into the hands of extremist elements.

70 of those involved, Air Force personnel with the highest security clearances in the country, the most heavily screen group in America’s entire military, were discharged for wrongdoing. Since that time, seven more of those involved have died in accidents or by “suicide” including one 4 star general. A cult within the American military, Christian Zionists, had hijacked a plane load of nuclear weapons and were heading to the Middle East on a “mission from G-d.” Was Israel directly involved and, if so, what were the targets?

The military and intelligence community had, for some time, stopped looking on Israel as an asset or even a benign liability. As early as the 1950s, Israel had organized terror campaigns against Americans in Egypt in order to establish the myth of a worldwide anti-American Islamic terrorist movement.

The “Lavon Affair” is suppressed in America’s news, torn out of the history books as is the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. Israeli warplanes, initially disguised to appear as Egyptian, tried to sink an American warship in the Eastern Mediterranean in an attempt to force the United States to invade Syria and Egypt. When the ship failed to sink, all hands aboard, as planned, more planes, these with Israeli markings, were called in followed by torpedo boats. After hours of attack, with 201 of 296 crew members dead or wounded, the ship was still afloat, tattered American flag flying proud. Except for the actions of President Johnson and Admiral Sidney McCain, America might well have gone to war against Israel in 1967.

In 2008, President Bush signed the Naval Vessel Transfer Act, insuring that Israel have a more advanced navy than any country in the region, guaranteed by US law. Israel has only had two naval engagements in its history, one against an American ship and the other against the unarmed Mavi Marmara. Both attacks, causing the deaths of American citizens, were performed using American weapons.

In 1987, Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard was sentenced to life in prison for the single most devastating assault on America’s security in her history. 110 CIA agents behind the Iron Curtain were captured, tortured and executed, destroying America’s intelligence network at the height of the Cold War. Military experts from the former Soviet Union claim that information they received from Israel, information stolen by Pollard, nearly pushed Russia to starting a nuclear war against the United States, a war Russia knew they could easily win using information supplied by Israel.

Despite the fact that Israel has made Pollard’s birthday a national holiday, history books in the United States still claim Pollard was working for South Africa and Pakistan. Did the undercurrent of suspicion and hatred of Israel by the military and intelligence services because of Pollard create the need to stage 9/11?

In 1991, three nuclear weapons, nearly identical in size to the Hiroshima bomb, “went missing” in the Middle East. These weapons had been built, between 1975 and 1988, by Armscor , a South African/Israeli company, part of ten that were to make up the nuclear portion of apartheid South Africa’s illegal inventory of weapons of mass destruction. South Africa and Israel, aided by the Soviets, built, not only these nuclear weapons but an extensive array of biological and chemical weapons as well, some of which were used in Africa by the South African military. Israel and South Africa tested one of these nukes on September 22, 1979. The VELA satellite system detected the blast, confirmed by acoustic sensors, and established a detailed analysis of the materials and design.

These missing nukes were hijacked while being shipped to British forces in Oman, part of a convoluted deal arranged by Margaret Thatcher and involving current Prime Minister David Cameron, then 28, and Dr. David Kelly, British weapons scientist now believed murdered after threatening to go public about these missing weapons.

These three missing nuclear weapons, now believed to have been stolen by Israel, were the secret rationale for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. When they weren’t located, Israel claimed they had been shipped via ambulance to, first Syria and then Lebanon to be hidden in an X-ray facility to avoid detection. America wasn’t fooled by these ploys and those privy to the “lost nukes,” those at the highest levels, had caught Israel again.

Then, in 2009, something utterly unforgivable happened. On May 25, 2009, North Korea tested its first successful nuclear weapon. It was confirmed to be one of the three missing nukes believed held by Israel, built in South Africa. Did Israel, third largest arms exporter in the world, sell a nuclear weapon to North Korea? Israel, known for peddling military technology to rogue nations, technology begged, borrowed or stolen from the United States, had crossed a line.

The military had long been resentful of Israel’s habit of selling off munitions the United States ”stored” in Israel for “safe keeping.” Several billion dollars worth of munitions stores had been shipped to Israel under a loose agreement allowing Israel to replenish her stocks from US supplies. This “off the books” military aid to Israel, was supposed to make Israel more secure. In fact, however, Israel has been selling these American owned munitions around the world, some to America’s potential adversaries including Venezuela.

Military contracts themselves have been a bone of contention. With US unemployment levels at their highest since the Great Depression, billions in defense and ”Homeland Security” contracts are going to Israel, a country importing labor from Africa and Asia to keep its arms factories manned. American companies that complain about being “run over” by Israeli lobbyists are quickly silenced. Not only is the American economy being negatively impacted but America’s defense industries as well. American companies, some involved in our most secret projects, are being forced by the Israeli lobby in Congress to take on partners in Israel, sharing technologies that soon end up in China, Singapore or India.

Currently, Israel has received a $1.8 billion stockpile of munitions for a war on Iran they will never fight or, perhaps a new assault on Gaza, weapons from the depleted stockpiles of the American military. Even more American munitions have been offloaded in Georgia and, perhaps shipped to forward bases in Azerbaijan to support an Israeli sneak attack on Iran. At risk, of course, are American troops in Iraq and American ships in the Persian Gulf. There are no Israeli forces within striking distance of Iran.
Our military is more than aware of this fact.

Today the Washington Post reported the following:
* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings – about 17 million square feet of space.

* Many security and intelligence agencies do the same work, creating redundancy and waste. For example, 51 federal organizations and military commands, operating in 15 U.S. cities, track the flow of money to and from terrorist networks.

* Analysts who make sense of documents and conversations obtained by foreign and domestic spying share their judgment by publishing 50,000 intelligence reports each year – a volume so large that many are routinely ignored.

What isn’t being mentioned is the fact that hundreds of the government organizations are run by dual citizens, Americans holding Israeli passports or that a significant number of the private companies are Israeli owned or managed by individuals with strong ties to Israel, ties that, if examined, would represent a clear conflict of interest and security threat. If America was allowed to openly acknowledge the areas of adversariality with Israel that have long existed, a significant number of the 854,000 people holding top-secret security clearances would immediately be deemed a risk.

Thus, terrorist plots that show the obvious signature of the Mossad, such as the Christmas 2009 ”crotch bomber” in Detroit, can never be properly investigated. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent with one purpose, support Israel’s political and economic aims even if it endangers the security of the United States.

Israeli involvement in weapons deals, Venezuela, North Korea, Turkey, India, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and dozens of other nations, creating a complex web of conflicting alliances makes the run up to World War I child’s play in comparison. With allegations of Israel managing, not only the money laundering but transshipment of $65 billion in heroin from Afghanistan into Russia and the west, the penetration of Americas intelligence and defense infrastructure has become obvious, particularly to the military, long resentful and suspicious of the CIA-Mossad alliance.

With years of dominance of both Defense and Homeland Security by Israeli-Americans and, not only the top levels of the Pentagon staffed by Christian Zionists but service academy admissions stacked from the rolls of this same extremist minority, abuses were meant to continue for years unchallenged. This, however, has not been the case. Continual rumblings, always quickly denied, flow out of the Pentagon, challenging our perception of Israel as an ally or strategic partner. In fact, numerous reports citing Israel as a threat have been quashed.

With two missing nuclear weapons in play and heavy handed interference in Washington politics and the American media, the current push for war with Iran has many military leaders increasingly watchful of staged incidents. With no serious intelligence backing Iran’s nuclear capabilities and the recent revelations from a kidnapped Iranian student purported to be one of their leading nuclear scientists, the scenario intended to duplicate the US invasion of Iraq is not progressing well. Evidence of the Saudi-Israeli connection, made public by this incident, has been suppressed in the media but is carefully noted by military intelligence analysts.

A “timely” attack on the US, by necessity devastating in nature and tied to Iran, perhaps using more kidnapped Iranian citizens, is expected. With congress and the press in lockstep with Israel, will the military be enough to stand up for American security and independence?

getem
getem

Hi Ben & All

Mk I assume you are wanting to read about Nathan Stubblefield. Here is the article on John Bedini’s site. Very interesting stuff.

http://johnbedini.net/john34/stubblefield.html

chrisb
chrisb

mk
ChrisB, my own tough little beasties, Teeny Barkemada and Chiquilla Senile stand ready for their assignments

LOL, okay truth be known, the mastiff is a pup about 7 months old and stands about 70 lbs. He sits about 70lbs also.
Okay at those numbers he is also shotgun trained, not to be confused with Shogun trained. Anyhow your guys sounds like they will have to work in tandem so get a pad for one of their shoulders with earplug and get the other one’s paw trained to pull the trigger. Training, training, training.
SOunds like the one has a memory problem so he should be the shoulder guy.

getem
getem

Hi All

I have just twigged where Ben is. The last interview he did on Rense he said the next interview, due next Wednesday I think, will be from Canada. He was going back presumably to visit family. I was tipped off by a post by Michael on Ben’s free site.

Edge
Edge

Hutz- What ever your taking must agree with you- your
10:45 answer to JJ — pretty shape must admit–

chrisb
chrisb

hutz, just saw your post regarding roman and I wonder why anyone with all the information on this board would post something idiotic about my idiotic posting regarding the dog. Doesn’t this guy realize I get paid the big bucks for thinking this stuff up. Has he not realized I have been behind the scenes for hundreds of comedians like Charlie Chaplin, the famous joke teller. So out of all the post this guy could have singled out for spiritual fulfillment, he picks a dog and guy on meds. Go figure. Subscription rate just went up to $9.00 a month.

paladin
paladin

Does anyone have a copy of Story’s post that was deleted in a file that could be viewed here?

lew3
lew3

Paladin, see this post: Comment by myra on July 19, 2010 @ 10:10 pm

bentonkatsu
bentonkatsu

I think the tide has turned back in their favour.
They pretended to negotiate for enough time to get into position for their next round of economic turmoil.

It is about to start again and they have us where they want us.

Fuck I hate these people.

paladin
paladin

Thanks, Lew…maybe I can get her to post the whole article.

kohala889
kohala889

Gulf water sample explodes when tested for toxicity/video.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/19/oil-spill-gulf-water-samp_n_651331.html

lew3
lew3

See the latest from Bill Ryan at Project Avalon about the Gulf oil “spill.”:

http://www.projectavalon.net/

bentonkatsu
bentonkatsu

I honestly dont care about the past at the moment.

Focus on exposing the chemtrails and other toxins they are poisoning us with rather than writing history stories.

Sure we may get an insight into the past but these articles change nothing.

History is irrelevant if we have no future.

bentonkatsu
bentonkatsu

Chemtrail spraying from Air Force KC-10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IIJ_186P8U

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Not ignoring forum posts. Have returned to work.

kohala889 of 7/19/10 6:31…No, not most aboriginal people, but ALL aboriginal or First People worldwide came from the submerged land of Mu Lemuria, yes. There still are undisclosed and unaccounted mysteries about the people of Mu. Much have already been disclosed on the Internet, as I’m sure are in the libraries, and who knows it’s probably in the Vatican, too. There will be more to come upon discovery, sooner or later.

Searching for the truth will never cease to end, and there is not one individual who can say, “I know it all”. I am not God, Jesus or the Devil, but definitely I am the spirit (physical) of the spirit (mental) of the spirit (spirituality not religious) of my ancestors. I do have an extra DNA, if that makes me an ET, then step aside you imposters, because I’m beautiful and “maka’ala” (alert) in no particular order.

When Jesus was hanging on the cross. Did he not say, “Do not weep for me for there is one greater than I who will come after me”. “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you, not as the world gives, do I give to you”. Who was that greater one? The Holy Spirit. This is the one very few, if any, worship, adore or call on for help. Instead, it’s Jesus they call on for mercy. He already cleared that matter up, yet, worshipers continue to burden Jesus with more of what he already died on the cross for. Who told it differently, to keep you from connecting with the Holy Spirit? How well do you know the spirit of spirit of the spirit of your ancestors? Is that why Jesus is still hanging on the cross? Talk about persecution and brain washing. I’ve said, enough on this. Dang, Todd, see what you made be do. Dang. LOL.

Get to know yourselves first, you may finally like what you see. And believe me this ET is real and friendly, funny sometimes, at least my youngest grandson loves me and thinks I’m cool. Chrisb, this one’s for you. Ninja match, anyone?

danwyo of 7/20/10 1:03am…Tis true, the secret government does consider us the terrorist, since 911. This became a means to up the ante on harassment charges in Hawaii. We now have a law against terrorist, terrorism (flinging a bat, show of boxing), just about anything in your hand can be consider threatening, then add yelling and there you have it a terrorist in action.

Okay, on the lighter side. Two farmers here on Oahu are in federal court for immigration violations. They had illegal workers working for them, who, according to news report were threatened to basically “shape up or ship out”. Truth to be told, yet. What’s interesting is who is going to bat for them in federal court? Former governors of Hawaii, George Waihee and Ben Cayetano, and William Paty, former director of DLNR (Dept of Land and Natural Resources). Has the State of Arizona’s immigration law hit a nerve in Hawaii, too? The subject matter was brought to the attention of our police chief. Another story of its own, because it touches a sensitive nerve. However, I have been assured it’s a good thing. Will wait and give it time to massage its way out of that tight spot.

I just found it interesting how all of a sudden we have these former politicians coming out of the woodwork and joining forces with the likes of Obama, etc. there and here. That’s why I brought this subject up. How would you know if I didn’t say so?

One last comment. Once upon a time when tourist came to Hawaii, they would often describe it as a peaceful and beautiful place. Some even felt a spiritual connection. To these I say, welcome home for this is the home of your birth. However, something changed all that, and we have found ourselves part of their problem, no longer the solution and peaceful, beautiful islands. How did that happen? To be disclosed upon discovery sooner or later.

Mahalo, for taking time to read this post, if you did. Comments may be reserved if you so choose. We’re all in this together, only one planet called, Mother Earth, giving and sharing.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

richardterra1
richardterra1

To Kohala,

You misunderstood my post, I meant that I know how to build electronic equipment from stock and plans, not that I know how to build over unity devices specifically. but if they can be built using our technology, then yes I know how to build them if there are plans, processes and specs available. I’ll check out Bedini’s stuff.

Do you or anybody else know where there are flying disk plans available? If the ETs won’t come to me, then I’d like to go to the moon, because evidently they’re there also, and in the open.

Thanks

roman
roman

To Suncrystal, My comment was not aimed at you, IT’s stupid postings like “Dang” which I find inane and trying.
Sorry about the misunderstanding. Generally I find most of the postings are thoughtful and interesting and an interesting read where we are all intersted in news and updates.

If people have not to contribute, best to shut up and read what others have to share. Again, my appologies for the misunderstanding

hutz
hutz

Well roman I do hope you haven’t hurt todds feelings . And thanks allot the the subscription rate increase from crisb.
Man where is the world going?ramon if crisb dogs see these post about them then crisb might have rebellion on his hands then all our futures would be up in the air .Without the dogs and elephants we have nothing.
that said;
Monday, July 19, 2010
TECHNOLOGY – Most efficient electric motor in 435 watts in, 3.1 HP out
Submitted by APH — Thanks

In March 1996 a man named Dennis Lee sent engraved invitations to every elected official in Washington D.C. He demonstrated the Hummingbird Permanent Magnet Electric Motor. At that time it was the most efficient motor in the world. He also demonstrated energy efficiency devices that had the potential to reduce earnings of power companies, even to bankrupt them. He asked for one thing, DEREGULATE ELECTRICITY. Dennis was told Congress doesn’t do anything in less than 2 years. In July 1996 Congress deregulated electricity.

For the video describing the project and application form: http://www.kingdomgrant.org/andy/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdozRv0XOjU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTnycNeYaU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jSCdUDo_c&feature=related

hutz
hutz

Subject: Piss Poor History Lesson

Where did Piss Poor come from?

Interesting History

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families
used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken &
Sold to the tannery…….if you had to do this to survive
you were “Piss Poor”

But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn’t
even afford to buy a pot……they “didn’t have a pot to
piss in” & were the lowest of the low

The next time you are washing your hands and complain
because the water temperature isn’t just how you like it,
think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about
the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their
yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by
June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ….. .
Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting
Married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man
of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then
all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the
children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so
dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the
saying, “Don’t throw the baby out with the Bath water!”

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no
wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get
warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs)
lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and
sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof…
Hence the saying “It’s raining cats and dogs.”

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the
house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs
and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence,

a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top
afforded some protection. That’s how canopy beds came into
existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other
than dirt. Hence the saying, “Dirt poor.” The wealthy had
slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet,
so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their
footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until,

when you opened the door, it would all start slipping
outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
Hence: a thresh hold.

(Getting quite an education, aren’t you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big
kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit
the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly
vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the
stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold
overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew
had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence
the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas
porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could
obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When
visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show
off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, “bring home
the bacon.” They would cut off a little to share with guests
and would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high
acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food,
causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with
tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were
considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt
bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests
got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination
would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.
Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and
prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen
table for a co uple of days and the family would gather
around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake
up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

England is old and small and the local folks started running
out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins
and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the
grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins
were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they
realized they had been burying people alive… So they would
tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the
coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.
Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night
(the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus,someone
could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

And that’s the truth….Now, whoever said History was boring!!!

So…get out there and educate someone! ~~~ Share these
facts with a friend.

hutz
hutz

German politics in disintegration: Internal erosion is crumbling
Monday, July 19, 2010
http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2010/04/altnews4-httpalcuinbramerton.html

hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz

MK Tim Turner worked for FEMA not DHS. I believe it was a county in Florida . I heard he was disgusted with them and quit or got fired . .I am not nay saying MK we need to expose everything and talk about everything to get the truth .
It seems even with all the controversy over RAP it has loyal GJ’s that are ready to take our republic back . Any change from Obummer I would welcome. Personally MK I believe big things are about to happen .RAP is just part of it . Call me a dreamer but I think and feel and scene that the world is going to change for the better . I believe we can win the war against evil on this planet . Granted if there is evil out in space that has superior technology then we need divine intervention. However I believe that God will protect us from the things we haven’t a chance of winning .
spreading the light on the evil ones is working . The world is watching . We will prevail.

g7enn
g7enn

Jerry Wills, healer and Tau Cetan, shares his truth (video)

Some Points:

1. There are beings in this world wanting to help you.

2. There are beings in this world that want access to your abilities. The grays feel they own all human bodies.

3. The future is uncertain because the minds that project to the future are uncertain. You can’t create through fear, only destroy. If you want to create a positive future create it in your mind and project it. Be aware of what you want and do not allow it to be maneuvered into place by the Elite.

4. What you do with your heart is expressed through your actions.

5. How to become empowered? Be yourself. To become effective you must be confident in who you are, allow your light to shine, and let others be themselves. You are part of the process of creation and not at the mercy of it.

6. When accosted (by Grays) use your free will and say no or stop.

7. We have a soul, but the grays don’t have one. They want to harvest us. Say no. That’s enough.

8. You’ve been taught that when you become a part of a mass consciousness you lose your individuality. In separation (different religions, etc) we fall. We are the lens for the greater light.

9. The Gulf disaster is the start of 2012 events.

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

hutz
hutz

ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS . MK THIS IS FOR YOU.
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JUST FOUND OUT THERE WAS NO QUORUM IN HOUSE OR SENATE TODAY BUT THEY PASSED A BILL THE MAKES OBAMA DICTATOR AND HE IS ON HIS WAY OVER TO SIGN IT.
CAN YOU FIND OUT RESOLUTION OR BILL NUMBERS? Or THE SPONSORS OF SUCH A MESS.
BELIEVE THAT THE MILITARY WILL STEP IN AFTER SIGNING. LOVE AND THE PEACE OF THE LORD.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben abd All
mk, hutz, chrisb Has anyone had feedback of any kind from John P. Craven regarding the current GOM situation. YThere are soooo many 180’s regarding the severity of this situation that no one could make an intelligent conclusion about whether it is critical, or just extremely dangerous. I am sure that John still had good intel sources available to him that he can tactly filter onto us.
We need to encourage people in the U.S. , especially those in the GOM to have all the assets of BP nationalized into an escrow account for financial security regarding a Grass Roots Class Action Lawsuit for damages.

hutz
hutz

Mainstream News and RAP
Received from a concerned RAP juror — Thanks

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wthr/PDF/macnabstatement.pdf
So this makes her an expert?!
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=12833918

suncrystal
suncrystal

Dear Roman,

I don’t know what you believe I said about YOUR comment…

Virtually all my comments herein have been directed at Richard…. 😉

richardterra1
richardterra1

Hutz,

Thanks for the energy and antigrav links.

If you haven’t done so, check out Hyperion Power’s site. The make a sealed reactor the size of a refrigerator that produces enough juice for 20,000 homes. If the Germans were flying disks almost 100 years ago with Mercedes truck engine powered electric generators. Then a nuclear battery that will power 20,000 homes should be plenty for a modern flying disk to get around the solar system with.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers one and all,

I encourage everybody to carefully read the articles from Gordon Duff that I posted. The article about the “Tarnished Alliance” of Israel and the US is going to blow your minds. In addition to naming the conspirators who pulled off 9/11, Duff discusses what happened when those nukes were taken off base and flown around the US. According to him, there were 70 high level people involved. All of these people were members of the Zionist or Christian-Zionist movement (the DVD fascist movement that Christopher Story has talked about.)

He also mentions that North Korea got its nuke from Israel. Finally, he talks about the disclosures by the Washington Post. If you have not visited the new Top Secret America site, do it today. It shows where these locations are around the USA. It shows how much money is being spent on this ridiculous boondoggle intended to create a new KGB. It also highlights the fact that there are nearly a million people with high security clearances that are loosely supervised. We cannot permit what is going on to go on people.

Hutz, I tried to find anything that might fit the rather broad description that you gave me, but I couldn’t. I found some other bills that were really interesting that I thought everybody might want to know about.

TO RESEARCH BILLS, TRY THOMAS.GOV. That is a complete listing of all the legislation in the US House and Senate.

Below are some interesting bills to contemplate and react to.
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H.CON.RES.34
Title: Calling upon the Capitol Preservation Commission and the Office of the Architect of the Capitol to place the Lincoln-Obama Bible on permanent display upon the Lincoln table at the Capitol Visitor Center for the benefit of all its visitors to fully understand and appreciate America’s history and Godly heritage.
Sponsor: Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] (introduced 1/28/2009) Cosponsors (12)
Latest Major Action: 1/28/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on House Administration.

[DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE LINCOLN-OBAMA BIBLE IS?
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H.CON.RES.265
Title: Expressing the sense of the Congress that the United States should neither become a signatory to the Rome Statute on the International Criminal Court nor attend the Review Conference of the Rome Statute in Kampala, Uganda, commencing on May 31, 2010.
Sponsor: Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] (introduced 4/21/2010) Cosponsors (35)
Related Bills: S.CON.RES.59
Latest Major Action: 4/21/2010 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

EVERYBODY SHOULD WRITE THEIR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS ABOUT THE BILL ABOVE. WE SHOULD BE SIGNATORIES TO THE WORLD COURT/CRIMINAL WORLD COURT. IF WE WERE, CLINTON, KISSINGER, BUSH SR AND JR; GREENSPAN AND OTHERS WOULD ALREADY BE IN CUSTODY.
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12. [111th] H.RES.417 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that President Barack Obama should immediately work to reverse damaging and illegal actions taken by the Bush/Cheney Administration and collaborate with Congress to proactively prevent any further abuses of executive branch power.
Sponsor: Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] (introduced 5/7/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary; House Armed Services; House Foreign Affairs; House Intelligence (Permanent Select)
Latest Major Action: 6/12/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

THE BILL ABOVE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE MOTHBALLS AND DUSTED OFF. IT NEEDS TO BE PASSED IMMEDIATELY.
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16. [111th] H.RES.557 : Expressing support for the State of Israel’s inalienable right to defend itself in the face of an imminent nuclear or military threat from Iran, terrorist organizations, and the countries that harbor them.
Sponsor: Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] (introduced 6/18/2009) Cosponsors (96)
Committees: House Foreign Affairs
Latest Major Action: 6/18/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

AFTER YOU READ THE ARTICLE FROM GORDON DUFF, YOU WILL WANT TO FIRE OFF A LETTER ABOUT HOW STUPID THIS BILL IS AND DEMANDING THAT IT BE TABLED.

MK

g7enn
g7enn

Eric Jon Phelps exposes Jesuit-CIA Alex Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDUMp0OniVI

Ron Paul is a Freemason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9coJj_BT7b4&feature=related

lew3
lew3

Bill Ryan has posted another update today:

http://www.projectavalon.net/

richardterra1
richardterra1

As far as peak oil goes, oil is defined as something that you can drill a well to a reservoir and pump out of the ground. The Bakken shale formation is just that, oil soaked shale that they can’t get out of the ground in any volume. The western oil “shale” in the U.S. and the Canadian tar sands also require enormous environmental degradation to produce in any volume and will never produce the volume of unconventional oil needed to power our civilization. Deep drilling into oil mixed with magma is also a very expensive and environmentally risky proposition. The easy oil was found decades ago.

If anyone is genuinely interested in disproving peak oil, they need to look at engineering reports and reserve studies to show that we’re discovering more CONVENTIONAL oil then we’re using. And the research that I and many others have done shows that break even was passed 40 years ago. Unconventional oil is an increasingly larger percentage of the total volume of oil produced each year. And it’s barely keeping up with demand. Which is one of the reasons that the price is going up. And it’s a lot more energy intensive and dirty to produce.

If conventional oil starts to drop off more quickly, unconventional oil is unlikely to be able to be brought on line quick enough in sufficient volume to meet demand. All these videos and links that people have posted to try to debunk peak oil have failed to even address let alone prove that we’re not using oil at a much faster rate than we’re discovering it. And these purportedly refilling fields when they do occur are extremely rare and have no effect on the consumption v discovery ratio.

There are a lot of stories floating around about these huge fields here or there. But when you try to verify them, there are no credible reserve studies, engineering reports or government or industry statistics to support the stories. Maybe there are unreported sequestered fields that have been found and are being kept out of production. But there’s no legitimate proof of them that I’ve been able to locate that disproves that we using oil much faster than we’re finding it.

Planning our future on rumors and intuition when there’s no supporting facts or evidence is irresponsible

mk2009
mk2009

Dear Everybody,

Comment by kuuleimomi on July 20, 2010 @ 5:58 pm is extremely important to understanding something else that is going on in the world right now. She is a descendant of a former very advanced civilization on earth. Interestingly enough, there was a crop circle in England that had a drawing of a being which resembles both peoples of the Pacific Island ethnic groups AND the description of someone from Tau Ceti.

If you go to the orionconspiracy site and look at the video there. You will see incredible discoveries by archaelogists all over the world. One is a temple/library something like that under the ice at one of the poles. There is another that is a VIMANA or flying saucer excavated by the Germans during WWII. There are odd looking metal balls that look very much like geodesic domes which have been found around the world. There is a belt of melted, fused earth, rock and clay that was discovered in either Pakistan or India. This belt of glasslike material is believed to have been caused by a radioactive explosion 50,000 years ago.

Mu, Atlantis, Lemuria and the Aryans of India were all rumored to have been highly advanced civilizations. We need to understand this phenomenon and how it relates to the humanity of today.

MK

PS: Hutz, I loved your history lesson. Remind me to tell you about shooting towers and short back doors in some of the Texas settlements.

mk2009
mk2009

WBstreck,

Glenn Murphy has been talking to Craven. That is all that I know. I spoke to my state representative in charge of protecting natural resources and he did not know anything about what was going on with BP. He asked me to send him some info..so I think that I will.

MK

g7enn
g7enn

Mysterious hole at the heliport platform of the Deepwater Horizon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr6u4aHDsDI

Fact #1: Tony Hayward sold a very large portion of his stock prior to the explosion.
Fact#2: Numerous employees on the oil rig decided to leave just prior to the explosion.
Fact#3: The day before the Oil rig blew up, the U.S. Air Force launched a secret mission rocket with a “DARPA” satellite on board.
Fact#4: DARPA makes laser weapons for the U.S. government
Fact#5: news coverage video showed a large blue laser beam, which was edited out of the video weeks later…

g7enn
g7enn

There are arguments from both sides of the oil issue: either we are quickly running out of oil or we have adequate oil to meet our requirements for generations. Both sides offer evidence, witnesses, experts and documentation to validate their assertions. Some peak-oil projects, funded by oil companies, are highly suspect. The very credible Lindsey Williams maintains that the North Slope in Alaska has as much crude oil as Saudi Arabia. Governor Frank H. Murkowski said in 2005 that there is enough oil on the North Slope to supply the entire United States for 200 years. [1] Antony Sutton, author of Energy, the Created Crisis, is adamant that we have sufficient oil. Conversely, I have read reports which support the peak oil theory. I personally believe, after research, that “there is enough and to spare.” Doom and gloom, Chicken Little oil scarcity claims have been propagated from the beginning. A scarcity, authentic or manufactured, of any crucial commodity accomplishes the following:

1. Increases profits to those who manipulate that commodity.

2. Allows the controllers to determine availability to the “right” people.

3. In the case of energy – severely impacts lifestyle, progress and prosperity.

4. Extracts more money from an often overburdened consumer.

Henry A. Kissinger, Rockefeller’s well-compensated, multi-purpose minion and long-time member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) said: “Control the oil and you can control entire Continents. Control food and you control people.” [2] Michael Collon, Belgian author said: “If you want to rule the world, you need to control oil. All the oil. Anywhere.” [3]

The first very memorable “oil crisis” occurred in 1973. Nixon, obedient to his handlers, announced the demonetization of the dollar on August 15, 1971. This allowed time for the “real deciders” to plan their strategy. Eighty-four individuals, financial, corporate and political elitists, gathered at Saltsjöbaden, Sweden for the annual Bilderberg meeting. American attendee, Walter J. Levy, outlined the plan for a pending 400% increase in OPEC revenues, the exact percentage that Kissinger would demand of Saudi Arabian Shah. Their intentions were not prevention but rather a scheme on how to manage the projected abundance of oil dollars – what was later referred to by Herr Kissinger as “recycling the petrodollar flows.” The Bilderberg policy was to initiate a global oil embargo. [4]

Those attending included Robert O. Anderson of Atlantic Richfield Oil Co., Lord Greenhill, chairman of British Petroleum, Sir Eric Roll of Siegmund G. Warburg (creator of Eurobonds), George Ball of Lehman Brothers Investment Bank, Henry Kissinger, William P. Bundy, Zbigniew Brzezinski (soon to be Carter’s national security advisor), David Rockefeller, Emilio G. Collado, Executive Vice President, Exxon Corp.; Gianni Agnelli, Otto Wolff von Amerongen and Arthur H. Dean, CFR Director (1955-72) and a partner in Rockefeller-oriented Sullivan & Cromwell. Kissinger had requested Warburg to develop the Eurobonds ten years before. [6] A very small scheming elite group, centered in New York and London, influence the economy of the entire world.

The reasons for the “oil shock” were:

1. Launch a colossal assault against world industrial growth.

2. Tilt the balance of power back to the advantage of Anglo-American financial interests.

3. Control the world’s oil flows, their most powerful weapon.

4. Increase the world demand for U.S. dollars. [7]

Egypt and Syria invaded Israel on October 6, 1973 which came to be known as the Yom Kippur War. This war was “secretly orchestrated” by Herr Henry Kissinger, Nixon’s national security adviser as well as Secretary of State. Kissinger effectively managed the Israeli response through his close association with Simcha Dinitz. Kissinger, “Nixon’s intelligence czar,” through privileged channels, misrepresented motives, suppressed communications, and intercepted intelligence reports ensured that the war would progress and end with his “shuttle diplomacy” as planned in May 1973 at Saltsjöbaden. The Arabs, scapegoats for the Elite, were the recipients of the world’s rage and Kissinger was the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize for 1973. [8]

http://www.spingola.com/new_world_order23.htm

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and All
Several years ago the radio MSM reportedthat the largest oil reseres in the world was discovered in the Colorado Rockies.
Several weeks after that The same radio MSM reported that W” said he had heard about that large oil reserve in The Rockies of Colorado , AND THAT HE WOULD CHECK INTO IT. That is the last we heard about the new big oil find. Then ir was reported that the audis lied about their actual oil supply and it’s was much smaller than claimed. Another big oil discovey was found in Montanna. No more MSM info. on that. More recently the MSM reported that we had discovered the largest source of Natural Gas in the world, and now, the U.S. was the ‘Saudi Arabia of the world’s natural gas supply’, even ahead of Russia.
There is no doubt that TBTB, together with all The NWO have to be put out of commission permanently , or the world will suffer in countless ways as they plow through humanity and Mother Earth with their sociopathic plans. I heard from a worker that they have drilled quite a ew oil wells in Idaho within the last year.

foodrules
foodrules

Hutz,
Your 10:34 a.m. links were interesting. The first one had truth in it but was presented rather negatively. The second one was a media spin. The media is trying so hard to put the RAP in the same kettle with violent patriot groups. If only they ccould succeed, they could demonize the light, but alas, the truth will come out. The RAP is so peacefully set up, and so carefully guided to remain peaceful, that the media must really have to hunt to find less-than-peaceful moments of RAP individuals. Wasn’t the whole story of the son with the AK-47 more of self-defence against an unidentified aggressor? Hmmm…
As always,
foodrules

myra
myra

Good morning BF’s Cafe! UPDATE: RAP – either good or bad-

“I have been sending you information about the “Restore America Plan” for the last few months. This “Plan” seemed to be a means my which we could return our country to its proper place in our Heavenly Father’s Kingdom. This has proven to be a disappointment.

Like a drowning man grasping at anything that “floats” by that might save him, many people, myself and some of you included, got onto this “float” that seemed to promise the best chance of returning us to a constitutional Republic, PEACEFULLY! The idea and ideals are sound. The initial plan put to us with modification by the peoples’ Grand Juries at each State level had great promise. The alleged support even authorship, by the US Military for the “Plan”, was the only path to possible success.

Sunday night in a conference call involving folks from every State and the “leadership(?)” of the “Plan”, several important and discouraging things were revealed to us. The US Military no longer ‘backs’ the “Plan”. A bunch of international financiers are pressuring the “leadership” to adopt a new “blueprint” for the implementation of the “Plan” that basically left the state Juries to merely rubberstamp the “leadership’s” decisions. That “blueprint” was not written in detail; but, vague platitudes on what is wrong with the country and what should be done to clean it up.

Far more was said in the phone messeage on the new “plan” than was in writing and the call was not being officially recorded…! Do I remember all that was said? Of course not! No one does. Other things of great importance were questioned all with basically the same implied or stated answer of “trust us”; because, WE know each other and trust one another. I had never heard of any of these people before March of this year, so trust was not an option. Blind “faith” is what they want.

I had warned people that I introduced to this as well as others that we must be watchful of these “leaders” for anything that does not ring true and we have and there were. But, it was a waiting game with nothing but time wasted. Until, Sunday night…waiting was over.

The original “plan” is sound and I wish it success. But, I can no longer support something that could lead to problems with constitutional issues. Our Heavenly Father watches out for us; but, we have to have a little sense about us, too.”

hutz
hutz

I believe I have seen that letter in or a version of it myra.
I am concerned about RAP success but not because of these type of letters . Example . Letters released last week said Sam Davis was upset because he got fired . Not true he is a staunch supporter of Rap . I read it like this . Perhaps they removed him to make him interim president . Everyone in RAP loves the guy as well as Tim Turner . Turner is very well loved by the GJ’s . Rap cannot be stopped with un-official letters. RAP knows what they are doing . Peaceful restoration of the republic. Keep on RAPPIN!

hutz
hutz

VERY INFORMATIVE ARTICLE
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Militarization of Central America and the Caribbean: The U.S. Military Moves Into Costa Rica

By Mark Vorpahl

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20171

richardterra1
richardterra1

To g7,

If you think that Lindsay Williams is “very credible” then you either don’t know much about him, or I question the soundness of your judgement. He went on and on and on on Alex Jones about how the Bakkan shale formation was the answer to our energy needs and that that makes us the new Saudi Arabia, and this isn’t his only gaff.

You’ve failed to address the discovery verses consumption and depletion deficiency which grows worse as time goes on and is a decades long long term trend. Or to provide any credible information showing that replenishment is anything other than an inconsequential extremely rare anomaly.

And how credible is one elected politician’s assertion, if he even said it? These people have been known to lie on occasion.

All the conspiracy theories that you quote are of little consequence in the face of overwhelming evidence supported by volumes of industry, government and academic engineering reports, reserve studies and verifiable statistics showing that we reached break even 40 years ago in the discovery v consumption ratio and it’s been getting worse as time goes on. Consuming 9 barrels of oil for every one discovered is a sure path to insurmountable depletion and shortages unless alternatives are gotten in place in time.

My view is that alternatives, whether it’s natural gas, hydrogen, nuclear, renewable and new energy or a combination are more than adequate to take up the slack. But that doesn’t alter the peak oil consumption, depletion v discovery deficiency. I’m simply stating the facts and figures from credible sources that are readily available to anyone that wants to do the research that I and many others have done. That hardly makes me or them chicken littles.

If you want to prove that there is oil in Alaska or anyplace else you need to do it with government, industry and academic engineering reports, reserve studies and statistics, not unsubstantiated rumors, allegations and conspiracy theories.

kohala889
kohala889

Here’s a heart breaking development:

July 20 (Bloomberg) — Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said second-quarter profit dropped 82 percent, missing analysts’ estimates on a slide in trading revenue, five days after settling U.S. regulators’ fraud allegations. Revenue and earnings were the lowest since the fourth quarter of 2008.

Boo-hoo! Other news–gold and silver up today. Yay!

myra
myra

Hutz: That update I pasted was not from the net or a letter, it was an update from a RAP member. I had attended a meeting last week and in light of the positive update on the net (nesara blog spot), I emailed this member for clarification. That was the response. Take that for what you will, just passing it along. Peace all!

wbstreck
wbstreck

Anyone who thinks he is going to arrange for honest disclosure from our totally corrupted government is wanting to beleive in faires of goodness coming out of the commodes at night. As soon as any source of wealth is exposed , TPTB usurp it for themselves . Maybe that is what out global enemies see , ” a what’s the use trying to save America”, they are enslaved to the NWO. So let’s proceed to eliminate the NWO , before it tries to eliminare us.Then we will have America standing as a potenial global ally, which would be a better situation for the whole world.
So our military is ready to join the NWO military establishment, it appears !Pray people , pray for deliverance.

goadrian
goadrian

HI all, please see my special post on your reply.

In order to make it easy , I will post the reply I got from you, so you can see it and relate to it fast. This will be a little longer but keep reading it as this is important as I’m looking for solutions.

Again I like to put my points from the past first: I plan to build a least one “open source” “free – energy” device and get it into a manufacturing stage. This stage of manufacture can be in US or other country based on the geopolitical environment on US. The pivotal point is the “pole shift” event, as in that time we will need some form of energy and that need to be totally independent. So think about it and act on it. This is what I’m asking : ACTION. So let’s start the reply to your post.

From : edgewood on July 20, 2010 @ 8:54 am

goAdrian-I am interested, but live north of your border in the pacific time zone–It would be nice to be in touch with
someone closer, that a person could compare notes, plus
local materials or parts available—

My reply to edgewood:
Ok finally somebody is using the magic word: “I’m interested”. This is what I’m looking for first.
Second on the distance is not an issue: we have internet, we have web conference, we have email and all this so the distance is as close as your nose is to the computer monitor. We can have sessions on how we build them, the parts we used and all the “lesson” we have learned. The help is in many areas: like getting the “word” out, is the easiest one, put money into some parts and order the parts via the Internet and ship it to the location dedicated to build it, next we go to build one and we will need to make more “hubs” like this and create jobs and opportunities in your area on the same concept . The main concept is to manufacture it and sell it to people who like to buy them. Applications: electrical cars, green houses, home usage, travel in an RV , you can name so many usage of it.
The only way to do it is to have lot’s of people involved in it and make it so will be “hard to point to the Main location”. Internet is the best, as is hard for them to know so much, as using secure internet connection or other means of communication can help us.
Now what you need to do edgwood is to get connected, if I have your email or phone is a good start, so I can email you and from that we can “grow up” in our plans. Is hard to post my email, as I get so many emails and almost all will go in “trash” so I need to add you in my filter.
I like to use MK as a hub of “people together” as she is very good on “information”. I talk with her one time and I think if she want to work with us on this will be nice.

From : jdalton4 on July 20, 2010 @ 9:00 am

Goadrian,
What you are asking is impossible. We have to learn to be self sufficient and make these devices from our own local resources. Otherwise the Cabal will put a stop to it. They can stop one large source but they cannot stop millions of people working quietly in their basements. The only thing we can share is information. The rest is up to the individual. Look at Steven Greer. He’s been trying for three years to fund a measely 3 million dollar research facility and acquire technology just for testing purposes. He’s nowhere. And if he gets close to success I suspect the only thing he’s go to achieve is a short life. His strategy fails because it relies on the existing system. We have to create a new society which is based on cooperation and local skills, not profit and mass production.

From : edgewood on July 20, 2010 @ 9:05 am ( to the above post)

jdalton4– I fully agree with you–

My reply to jdalton4 and again edgwood from there posts. Yes this is the idea : to make it in different places. If we will need to make it in our “basements” let it be. But if we can do it in a more business like format is one way I’m looking for. But if you learn about it jdalton4 you will be able to build it. Is not easy to build it, is taking a lot of time and money to get one going as you will expect. Is easy again to talk but doing it is a different story. This is my challenge to this group and to Ben: let’s build it to a high number and from that we create jobs. Let’s prove to million of unemployed Americans that we do not have jobs because “they “ do not want jobs. About Greer, this is my point: yes he is “trying” but he is not doing, as myself I send a request for help on his web site and I did not had any reply ( and yes I have his site on my filters). He is trying but no results. So again let’s do it, we have the open source on Internet and let’s choose one of this devices and build it. After that let’s everybody in the group have one for himself / herself. What is wrong with that. Myself I need “free” electrical power so I can have a “haven” in my place , as I need lots’ of water. In case I just get a monthly bill out ( the electrical bill) that is good too- I pay about $300 per month in the summer now. I know the electrical bill will increase as for example in California the 5th tier of price is $0.44/KW now and not only that , they control your meter as they like and they can shut it off when they want it. Who do you think make this law/rules, yes you guess – the utilities companies , coal power plants/mining, nuclear power industry,oil companies. We just need to pay it as we have no “alternatives”. They control everything and “funeral” us to death like a frog in a water pan under the fire. Think about it what we can do for us and for the rest of us. But again think about the pole shift, Planet X. We need independent electrical power to survive in the pole shift situation. Now on the “new society” this is what I’m asking : cooperation and local skills. So you are right, but move on and do it, as the cooperation is of no value if is only “talk”. Talk is cheap.
At the end I see this group to be so active and is so impressive to see you all paying attention to all the “details” in our life and that is good, but let’s swing a little and do it. “Let’s be creative”.

From A (goadrian), July 20 2010, my first big reply on “building ” “free energy” devices.

jj59
jj59

have you guys noticed that friggin Obummer is on television just about every single day?! I swear, he should have just been an actor! Then those who want to tune into him could. The rest could go on to the programming we wish to see! Just an observation.

hutz
hutz

Restore American Plan – HOT – Sam Davis Has Been Reinstated

hutz
hutz

OK MYRA PLEASE KEEP ME POSTED WITH ANYTHING .
TAKE CARE AND HOPE YOUR DAY IS BEAUTIFUL
PEACE
HUTZ

hutz
hutz

HE WOULD OF MADE A GOOD GARBAGE WORKER ON MARRIED WITH CHILDREN JJ

myra
myra

Goadrian: Sweet! Very curious of more details.

myra
myra

JJ: Girl STOP! I just had lunch…give me a minute…(runs away….)…LOL
Hutz: If I get anything further, I will pass it on. Here’s a thought…the timing of this conference call, international people, no Story, Ben unavailable, …shall see huh? Didn’t like the line about the Military not being onboard.

I’m NOT discrediting RAP in any way…I’m just passing on info from a direct contact. That’s all we can do for each other. Another piece of the puzzle. Have a great day also!

wbstreck
wbstreck

If the Chinese and Russia, and Taiwanget the inf. they can start producing these ‘free energy ‘ devices we could buy them affordably, at Harbor Freght, Northern Products and Tractor Supply.That would end government control of such devices, using the allmight buck as an incentive.Just give them a clue and the products will be on the conveyor belts. That is a Capitalist punalogy !

hutz
hutz

goadrian
Just wanted to say I have a 5000 sq ft. building with garage doors for shipping and receiving . I have wanted to open it for manufacturing something . I have very capable mechinics here utilizing the place for their small business . I would love to be involved . Thank you
hutz
hutzman20@gmail.com

goadrian
goadrian

hutz
look for my email..
thanks..

A

g7enn
g7enn

jj59,

Accurate comment. Obama is an actor and so are most the rest. George Green, a former banker, says that he’s been on the inside with these guys. He says, at the top, Ted Kennedy, Paul Volker, Democrats & Republicans are virtually in agreement. I’ve read that the major religions are the same at the very top too. It’s power & money, religion and politics are for the masses of sheep. The more they divide the people, the easier they are to conquer.

kohala889
kohala889

JJ, who says we have to tune in? If everyone simply boycotts the existing matrix, their power is gone. Whether you vote Republican or Democrat, you’re consenting to their corrupt system. Just stay home, work in your garden, purchase as little as possible (preferably locally produced) and support your friends and neighbors. We can create our own programming.

jj59
jj59

Our military leaders must be THE main piece to the strategy of reclaiming and restoring our country. We have to know that they DO stand behind their oaths to protect and defend our land and people. Our government leaders are not motivated with “what is best for the American citizens” but instead are in service to the global elites and their agenda’s to dominate and control the world. But if our service men and women are on our side, and REMAIN on our side, then the plans of the elite and their NWO will collapse!

Maybe I am wrong, but the way I see it is that even if we ALL wake up and demanded that the president be impeached, congress replaced, the government reduced in power and size, etc, etc, (whatever the restoration agendas call for) but they have the military working “for them”, then no matter how much we demand this or that collectively, if they call the service men home to handle the citizens on our own turf, we wouldn’t stand even a minute chance of succeeding.

State reps have to stand up and say no more. Then the people have to stand behind them. Then all law enforcement, town and city officials and judges would have to stand behind the people. Then the military would have to stand behind us.

So, the way I see it, the military could absolutely make or break any effort and progress of restoring the United States. This is a huge concern. Maybe we should all be targeting our military leaders and bombarding them with emails to “remember their oaths to their own country and reminding them to remain faithful to their American mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, sons and daughters.” We’re trying to provoke a change working from the outside and moving in, when maybe we should go straight to the most important resources of all, and knock out “their” key players first!

Just my thoughts.

jj59
jj59

kohala, you are soooo right! I couldn’t agree more. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, there is only two reasons I even keep my tube on and that is 1) watching the Gulf situation and 2) waiting for the announcement of Obummer being accused of violating the Constitution of the United States! (this, would most likely cover alot of territory!) Call me a dreamer, but I know it’s coming.

wbstreck
wbstreck

We need some BDS,WDS, Red ,Green and Speznatz to remove these power hungry monsters, but first let our American Military that they are a disgrace to the citizens of the entire world ,and that they are similar to the brass the stayed in Hong Kong selling G.I. supplies on the Black Marketwhilsts the lower ranked NCO’s did the heroic work in Viet Nam. WWll was a different storyy, we had real patriotic American heroes not the military scum sucking dogs that work for hire and kickbacks. Say Amen ! Band of Real Brothers. Every time these Military bums shave and look in the mirror , their reflection curses their deadening souls.

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

I think that you’re dreaming.

Besides, a lot of these job for life incumbents in the legislature were committing high treason before the current President ran in his first primary.

Everybody focuses on the President and ignores the main villains in the legislature and their electoral support who want war and pork that we don’t need and can’t afford.

The economy’s heading for another fall which may be significantly worse than the last one if the incumbency doesn’t start decreasing spending and making an effort to balance the budget. My guess is it’ll be to little to late and crisis driven change is what we’ll get.

richardterra1
richardterra1

webstreck,

The military is probably going to sit back and laugh and point at the fools in the legislature and electorate as the economy collapses and say I told you so. The military owes nobody nothing. These people have fought, got injured and died in one unnecessary war after another. The cowards are the ones who sent them to war for profit and conquest to fill their pockets and puff their egos.

jtgun
jtgun

Looks as if they are trying to start a race war on all the news stations.If obama were to be impeached or replaced,they would have a good chance at getting that war.

jj59
jj59

richard, I hear you. I suspect however, that the plans for the NWO have a timeline, and they have never been closer than now to achieving that goal. And you are right, I understand that the president is their puppet, and those above him are just higher up puppets. But, if all hell broke loose and the PEOPLE rebelled, who do you think they would call in to create order out of the chaos?

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Tesla: The Missing Papers
April, 2004, PBS
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html

One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called “death beam.” So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. The morning after the inventor’s death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle’s room at the Hotel New Yorker. By the time he arrived, Tesla’s body had already been removed, and Kosanovic´ suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle’s effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept -— a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked “Government.” Just after World War II, there was a renewed interest in beam weapons. Copies of Tesla’s papers on particle beam weaponry were sent to Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. An operation code-named “Project Nick” was heavily funded and placed under the command of Brigadier General L. C. Craigie to test the feasibility of Tesla’s concept. Details of the experiments were never published, and the project was apparently discontinued. But something peculiar happened. The copies of Tesla’s papers disappeared and nobody knows what happened to them.

Note: For more on this amazing man, click here and here.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

UFO in China’s Skies Prompts Investigation
July 14, 2010, ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/International/ufo-china-closes-airport-prompts-investigation/story?id=11159531

An unidentified flying object forced Xiaoshan Airport in Hangzhou, China to cease operations on July 7. A flight crew preparing for descent first detected the object around 8:40 p.m. and notified the air traffic control department. Aviation authorities responded within minutes, grounding outbound flights and diverting inbound ones. Eighteen flights were affected. Though normal operations resumed an hour later, the incident captured the attention of the Chinese media and sparked a firestorm of speculation on the UFO’s identity. Fueling speculations further, Hangzhou residents released photos, taken in the afternoon before the delays, of a hovering object bathed in golden light and exhibiting a comet-like tail. Less than an hour before the Xiaoshan airport shut down, residents said they also saw a flying object emitting red and white rays of light. The Hangzhou incident comes after a string of recent UFO sightings in China. On June 30, residents in Xinjiang province saw a flying object bathed in a fan of white light. Sightings have also been reported in Hunan, Shandong and Jiangsu provinces.

jj59
jj59

richard, so much of the system is corrupt, I realize this. And there would have to be, as you call them, a weeding out of the “villains.” The problem, to me, seems to be that whenever and wherever any credible sources attempt to expose these mafia type maniacs, those trying to do the exposing are assassinated, arrested, or simply go missing. These individuals think they are invincible and not very many of them are of sound minds. They spew lies before the public and behind closed doors their minds and tongues are venomous. How can they be debunked? How can they be paralyzed? Your thoughts on this?

hutz
hutz

3:20 am webstreck,
Right on web! That would be a dream come true in and of itself.
Keep the ideas flowing ! Wake up people of earth!

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

All hell probably isn’t going to break loose, it’ll most likely, to quote C.A. Fitts, be a slow burn. There’s already 50% unemployment in Detroit, I was there last week, everything was fine, as long as the checks cash and the food stamps redeem, and no one provokes them, people are just going to chill. They know who’s to blame, a lot of them are for returning miscreants to office election after election. This isn’t some big dark conspiracy of satanists in the plutocracy and deviants in the government. It’s just the system collapsing from it’s own weight from the economy being overextended.

People don’t have to revolt, the military doesn’t have to enforce a state of national emergency. All the voters have to do is do what they should have been doing long before this. Removing people from office who are spending our money on war and pork that we don’t need and can’t afford. And the sooner that they start doing that, the sooner we can start getting the economy turned around. And conversely, the longer the wait the more the economy is going to tank and their quality of life will erode.

Alex Jones and crew is a huge fear mongering psyop. Sure he does some good work, but the censorship on his comment boards is extremely aggressive towards rational well thought out commentary. Half of what I’ve written on these boards would have been blocked or deleted. They don’t want people to learn from their mistakes. They want to whip them into frenzy of blame shifting and stupidity.

beatbox151
beatbox151

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/07/20/hillary_clinton_pakistani_government_knows_where_biden_laden_is.html

Would someone like to itemize a list of all the things that is wrong with this?

Is this suppose to convince anyone that she should be in charge?

g7enn
g7enn

kohala889,

Good point. We support those who are liquidating us by buying their corporate products & watching their TV. What would happen if we began targeting certain corporations by ceasing to buy their products, preferring to buy from locally owned small businesses instead?

hutz
hutz

Wow folks you are on a roll!I love it.

hutz
hutz

I am maxing my cards and burning them as .I am not playin ball anymore . Now that I am not worried about a stinkin credit score I may have a chance of happiness.

I do not use oil to burn charcoal . I use wood and tin foil and a grate and 2 cinder blocks.for my cookout .

I teach my son all this . His mind has never been exposed to the system . He does not go to school.He will be a great countryman .He loves this country.He is spritual.
My pride and joy for sure.

kohala889
kohala889

Beat, about your posted video: Hillary’s right about one thing. A lot of Pakistanis know the status of Bin Laden. What they’re not saying is that THEY KNOW HE’S BEEN DEAD FOR 9 YEARS. Benazir Bhutto was most likely killed because she came out and said he was dead. And our govt continued the charade by occasionally coming out with a video of some stand-in purported to be him.

jj59
jj59

richard,

That all sounds very nice, however, maybe here is the problem; “All the voters have to do is do what they should have been doing long before this. Removing people from office who are spending our money on war and pork that we don’t need and can’t afford.”

The reality is that the polls aren’t genuine. The numbers are either pumped up or deflated depending on the elites choice of candidate which THEY have chosen BEFORE any voters ever enter the booths. Although I do still vote, I also know that in the long run, the elect have already been determined with or without my vote. It is an old-school and naïve mentality to believe that our presidential and other official offices are selected by the people.

So, I totally disagree with your argument for this as a fix to the problem.
IMHO.

kohala889
kohala889

Hutz, please be careful with that foil–the aluminum’s not good for you and it does get into the food if it’s heated. Maybe a piece of sheet metal?

hutz
hutz

Hello Gordon Duff and Veterans Today,
Our U.S. Military is currently, and has been since January 20, 2009, been committing with regularity war crimes under the command and authority of the current President Barack H. Obama. Our Central Florida chapter of Veterans For Peace has debated, voted on, and approved the following resolution calling for the Impeachment of President Barack H. Obama for those war crimes being committed under his command and authority … the same war crimes that Veterans For Peace National identified in its March 19, 2005 call for the Impeachment of President George W. Bush.
video,shocking!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/19/central-florida-vets-for-peace-resolution-calling-for-the-impeachment-of-president-obama-for-the-commission-of-war-crimes/

lew3
lew3

Hello All, there’s been an uptick in earthquake activity recently. I don’t know what it means.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and All
There have been many of the higest level Political & Military leaders in the Pentagon and Secretarys of The Armed Forces over the last 9 decades have been complicit to aid, abet and act out in the roles as desired by the NWO’s PTB secret societies and the secret government overlord’s of our entire national goverment.They are involved in he workings of this secret government by choice,threats ,or blackmail .
The members of congress are merely prodded shills, kept happy,fat and vulnerable, as courtesans to selling out of our country to the New World Order ,and most of them do not get into the level of WCFR agendas, except maybe the members of secret societies, that are inbred with Satanic evil. The grunts in the military do suffer from the greed of the NWO as they finance both sides of the conflicts.Put this into the persective of the Manzini letter in 1872 and a follow up confrence in 1895.There are supoosedly 44 levels of government above the office of the presdient of these United STates, with a few rare exceptions, and some of these were not even assasinated, lucky fellas. Who the hell is making decisions anyway ? Think about it ! Smoke and Mirrors just like the no gold backeing the moneterial currencies of all the nations of the world. Total Illuminati Bullshit. These bastards have got to go, it is that basic. Every country and ‘force to be reckoned’ with in the world needs to realize that the time to eliminate the NWO is NOW !

johnbaker33
johnbaker33

Is it just me or is the anagram for NWO…..NOW !

Be safe,

John B

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

I think that your response is a cop out. Unless you can show me proof of wide spread vote fraud or brainwashing, the idiot box is insufficient in my opinion, people still know what’s happening even from the msm. Then I’m going to assume that the elections are close enough to free and fair that people have a choice. And that people are getting what they want.

I’ve looked for vote fraud and brainwashing. Sure there’s some, but not enough to deny people the opportunity to throw the bums out and get some decent people in office who’ll do a better job.

But if you think that you can prove that there’s wide spread vote fraud, have at it and I’ll take a look. Maybe you know something that I don’t. It looks like you’re engaging in standard, the electorate can do no wrong blame shifting, looking for a scape goat.

chrisb
chrisb

Sheldan’s update below and once again greeted by great sarcasm. LOL I think I am going to write my own updates from the Galactic Guys as Sheldan is all over the place. Again the BS meter is registering high.
Let me see.
I come today with much manure. Your unconsciousness and Selamat has come full circle. Your mind is revolving around the planet to full Euro. LAst week we told you of your transformation, and the metamorphosis you will undergo.
( HMM) You are about to meet your ancestors. ( SOunds like a bullet in the head to me). Once you have completed your transformation from non subscriber to subscriber I will Selamat you some more stuff. During this time your credit card will seem lighter. Once you have entered the light chamber you will be enlightened by light in a lightening fast environment. ( And they said I couldn’t be a writer) THe journey you are about to embark on is a journey that will be similar to other embarkable journeys. You will soon become distant from the distances that were unreachable from far away. Okay next week if this doesn’t get any better than neither will I. Selamat Manure
BArk Bark ( from the dog )

Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation
13 Cib, 19 Kumku, 5 Caban Tuesday, July 20th, 2010

Selamat Jarin! We return with more to discuss with you! Right now, the ongoing difficulties affecting the European Union’s banking system continue to deepen. These developments are only the tip of the iceberg of what is to come. A vast quantity of derivatives, debentures, and other monetary instruments are coming due, and there is no apparent financial remedy for the havoc they can cause. Similar situations are likewise brewing in other parts of your world. The dark cabal is starting to realize that its policy of lying about these things will no longer work, and new excuses need to be concocted, and rapidly. Meanwhile, our Earth allies are waiting for all this to come to a head so that the final push toward manifesting a new financial system can finally commence. Furthermore, the dark’s stranglehold on the global money supply is beginning to slip. The euro, the dollar, and the yen are in trouble, and doomsday scenarios are already underway in China, India, and the Middle East. Something has to give, and this ‘give’ has to be the superseding of the Dumbarton Oaks treaty. A new system needs to be implemented now!

This requirement is being firmly resisted by the dark cabal. Negotiations between the US Treasury and several central banks determined this to be the one true option. Reordering the dollar is a move that the US Treasury refuses publicly to consider; in private, it is another story. The dollar and the Federal Reserve Bank (FRB) need a quick propping up, as the dollar is actually floating with a value determined by a bankrupt FRB. This is influencing Europe and Japan to demand the reconfiguration of the euro and the yen within a new monetary equation. This equation comprises a precious-metal-backed currency, coupled with new standards of international conduct for the banking industry. To the US and Wall Street bankers this is a most bitter pill to swallow. As the crisis worsens, our Earth allies keep explaining to the dark cabalists that the best solution is to let a new system sponsored and run by our Earth allies in the door. This is the poison pill that the dark sees it may be forced to swallow. But it persists in doing all it can to avoid what amounts to its death sentence, yet this is fast becoming inevitable.

The pressure of collective opinion from most of the world’s nations leaves the governments of the West in a dilemma. Any putative signs of growth are quickly eroding. Each ‘developed’ nation is hitting bumps produced by unemployment, consumer confidence, or the weakness of its currency, which means that the system is showing signs of imminent collapse. We have seen many experts on your world talk openly about a ‘third’ economic crash. Such talk makes the cabal’s minions queasy, rendering the poison-pill scenario more and more likely. To this end, our Earth allies are busy jockeying within the vast unwieldy enigma that is the old financial system to find a way to override this doomed behemoth. Their aim is to impose a new financial system and remove the governments which support the old one; e.g. the US corporate regime that is working hard to keep the Dumbarton Oaks system from collapse. This row is reaching a decisive point, as the US corporatocracy treads water and sees the enormous tidal wave of debt bearing down on its precarious position. The end of the dollar is near!

Your global society has another decisive factor to deal with: nature (Gaia)! Development of your society over the past 200 years created an expansion that ran rampant over its surroundings. This became an unnatural bubble that sooner or later had to burst. The first intimation of this was the ecology movement of the 1970s, which alerted us to the fact that some of you were awakening to a recognition of the overwhelming importance of nature. Mother Earth was being severely wounded by the loss of her forests, marshlands, and plain open spaces by the ceaseless spread of your society. You are now reaping what you have so carelessly sown: Nature is dying. The biodiversity, so essential to the well-being of your world, is at a tipping-point; and if it is lost, your society is ultimately doomed as well. Yet those who control your world seem unable to recognize this fact or come up with necessary accommodations. This utter intransigence compels our Earth allies to push these dark ones from power.

The present state of the dark cabal v. Earth allies conflict resembles the end of a punishing uphill race: both sides are exhausted, but our Earth allies seem to have got a second wind which could get them first past the finishing line! Nevertheless, the dark is not yet ready to concede defeat and its minions continue to cook up schemes to delay the inevitable. Our Earth allies maintain their advantage but lack a means to deliver the knockout blow. However, several upcoming events have the potential to create such a condition by default. The dark’s true Achilles heel is the torpedoed monetary system which is on its last legs. When it collapses, the rest can only fall in on itself. In the resulting vacuum, the new financial system can roll out, unimpeded, bring new governance to the fore. These regimes will reframe how the world works and will spell the end of the present sorry lineup of pseudo governments.

The practice of government on your world needs to embrace fully the unalienable rights of each sovereign citizen. These rights form the foundation of galactic society, and in the American Declaration of Independence the Ascended Masters set out to proclaim these basics and to ask for a government capable of exercising these principles. Saint Germaine strongly intended America to be a beacon and a showcase for these axioms, and it is a shame that slavery was allowed to continue in order to gain the approval of the southern states. Despite this, the document remains a strong statement in favor of personal sovereignty and the role of government in preserving it. The 18th century was just beginning to see how this new concept of governance operated, but additional ‘nuances’ were still needed to make it truly efficacious.

The idea that remained beyond the mental reach of those who dabbled in the theories and practice of governance was the problem of creating a power entity with sufficient self-censorship and motivation to defend its citizens from all onslaughts against their natural rights. The initial concept was a republic. This could be simply a loose confederation or, alternatively, one comprising a central corps endowed with certain powers enabling it to arbitrate among a loose confederation of sovereign states. Each state in turn was to be the defender of each citizen’s rights. The prime question then was how this was to be legislated and adjudicated, and this conundrum still stands. The rise in consciousness has recently thrown this unresolved issue into sharp relief, as ages-old rights abuses become unacceptable to an awakening humanity.

What is now added to this mix is the promise of abundance. Universal prosperity can redistribute power throughout society but this also triggers the necessity of educating everyone on the truths that surround them. The public miseducation system and the blatant manipulation of the mass media have invested the populace with a desire for access to new and truthful information that can begin to resolve the multitude of urgent, global threats. We fully intend to support this need by providing the facts about your society and ours. As you move toward full consciousness the prime concept of personal sovereignty enters the spotlight. Then, in an atmosphere of open discussion, you can decide how best to head your global society toward its bright future.

Today, we addressed the progress being made on a number of fronts. We drew your attention to some pivotal questions which we hope will stimulate your now-dormant sense of sovereignty. The time is approaching for your society to progress beyond its present context and to become the prototype for your new galactic society. Know, dear Ones, in your Heart of Hearts that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

Planetary

hutz
hutz

Dang!
kohala889
The thing I like about is no clean up. With my back I am very lazy.
I noticed that jiffy pop has a non-metallic pan now . It caught on fire whilst popping.
I might have to give up the whole cooking concept because I don’t know of anything as good as aluminum foil.And I don’t want to poison my son and I.Thanks for the warning.

jj59
jj59

john, LOL! Funny you said that because twice I wrote NOW, and had to redo. It should be No World Order- NOW!

hutz
hutz

BREAKING: Florida Session Ends After a Few Hours
by Southernlib

Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 12:29:59 PM PDT

So much for saving our coasts. Both chambers of the Florida Legislature adjourned within hours of lawmakers arriving in Tallahassee.

Roughly 43 minutes after convening the special session of the Florida Legislature today, House Speaker Larry Cretul adjourned, spitting in the eye of Gov. Charlie Crist and pissing all over the chance to put a question before voters this year on banning oil drills in state waters.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/20/885936/-BREAKING:-Florida-Session-Ends-After-a-Few-Hours

kohala889
kohala889

Richard, it’s a choice of tweedle dee or tweedle dum(er). They’re both working for the same masters and that ain’t us. Boycott their dam elections already!

ChrisB, thanks for the planetary updates. I’m sure Sheldan would get a kick out of yours. He does have a good sense of humor (for a Sirian).

beatbox151
beatbox151
hutz
hutz

At Veterans Today, we know that when America gets off it’s bad energy addiction and jobs on with new technologies, we propel ourselves forward.
With this in mind, when we discover new energy related ideas, technologies, and actions, we will bring them to your attention.
As it stands, Solimpeks Corp., a solar company based in Karatay, Turkey, has released the Volther hybrid solar collector, which produces electricity and hot water simultaneously.more,
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/19/wake-up-veterans-we-need-the-sun-to-win/

hutz
hutz
sierra
sierra

Mk… do you know the status of this bill?
Just came across this article…but no date on it.

link: http://www.treeoflife.nu/gabriel-cousens-m-d/activism-outreach/bill-510/

Senate Bill S510 Makes it Illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food

It is to our food what the bailout was to our economy, only we can live without money.

“If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God.” It is similar to what India faced with imposition of the salt tax during British rule, only S 510 extends control over all food in the US, violating the fundamental human right to food.” ~ Dr. Shiv Chopra, Canada Health whistleblower.

Monsanto says it has no interest in the bill and would not benefit from it, but Monsanto’s Michael Taylor who gave us rBGH and unregulated genetically modified (GM) organisms, appears to have designed it and is waiting as an appointed Food Czar to the FDA (a position unapproved by Congress) to administer the agency it would create — without judicial review — if it passes.

S 510 would give Monsanto unlimited power over all US seed, food supplements, food AND FARMING.

More details at that link including list of sponsors and co-sponsors.

************************************

Sierra

kohala889
kohala889

Beat, an “M.I.T. weapons analyst” debunks the UFO video. Gee, I wonder where HIS paychecks come from? And I bet they’re not small either.

paladin
paladin

Regards elections, voting, etc:

“Its not who votes that counts….but who counts the votes”

—Josef Stalin

hutz
hutz

Gov. attacks Restore America Plan and Guardians of a Free Republic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wr5V34hbNk

jj59
jj59

richard, how am I using this as a “scapegoat?” I will provide what should be substantial evidence to support my claim, but I expect you will come back with “those links don’t prove anything” In that case, I will argue no further with you as it will clear (IMO) that you refuse to except the truth. So, here goes! And these are only a drop in the bucket for you to consider.

Here is a documentary; The 2008 DVD, “Hacking Democracy” is available at Blockbuster, online, or for free on youtube or googlevideo in 9 parts, I think.

The 2008 DVD, “Hacking Democracy” is available at Blockbuster, online, or for free on youtube or googlevideo in 9 parts, I think.

Pandora’s Black Box: Did It Really Count Your Vote? http://www.votefraud.org/relevance_o'halloran_pandora's_box.htm

A House Without Doors- Vote Fraud in America http://www.votefraud.org/house_without_doors_and_update2008.htm
The Dems and Republs at national, state, and county levels – turned the voting system over to primarily 4 companies. It’s the Dems and Repubs that betrayed us into the hands of the N W O criminals running these four companies, — the same crowd that runs the 5 TV networks and the FED.
Network America Archive, Jan 2010 to June 2001 – a lot of info on this subject week by week http://www.votefraud.org/News/

jj59
jj59

THANK YOU Paladin!

beatbox151
beatbox151

Kohala889,

Good Question

The missle story lends me to believe these are the same guys who tried to debunk the spirals saying they were Russian Rockets.
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“Geoffrey Forden, who also specializes in Russian and Chinese space systems, published his analysis on a blog called “Arms Control Wonk.”

In the analysis, Forden used scientific theories to examine the images of the flying object that he felt were not created with Photoshop.

“It seems to me that a DF-21 (missile) launch somewhere near Jiuquan and aimed at a point somewhere in the eastern Gobi desert is the most likely cause of this ‘UFO'”, Forden wrote.”

Hmm yeah, he’s gettin paid.

US Military
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=113974

UN agency
http://cstsp.aaas.org/content.html?contentid=391

Geoffrey Forden is a researcher with the Science, Technology and Global Security Working Group at MIT. Previous to coming to MIT, he was a strategic weapons analyst in the National Security Division of the Congressional Budget Office.

Global Security Workings Group?

hutz
hutz

RAP has come under attack with lies and total deception. It looks as though the leader of this is being headed by a woman named JJ MacNab. I know for a fact that she is spinning tales just as other MSM have done with all of us who are not happy with the direction this country is headed. We have all been labeled terrorists!!! You can see a video here.
http://theintelhub.com/2010/07/20/the-peaceful-restore-america-plan-and-de-jure-grand-juries-under-attack/

paladin
paladin

jj

There was a book written about election fraud in the ’80’s. I can’t remember the name but I think it had NEC or National Election Commission in the title.

Anyway, I think its apparent its a fixed game…..another thing they just put in your face. For example…..with 20% of the precincts in and the tally is 52% to 48%, they can call a winner. Yeah, right. This never ceases to amaze me and even when the double fix was in in Florida in ’00, not much has been done to stop it.

And what pisses me off every election…..I wanna know how many dead people voted…but they never give those numbers.

delauder69
delauder69

Hutz thanks for the *:10 am post!!!!!!!!!!

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

The democrats ran dozens of qualified, competent, vetted (as in no baggage) antiwar candidates in the last U.S. legislative elections against war monger incumbents. A lot of them never made it through the primaries to get on the ballots, and of those who did, I’m not aware of any that got elected. So your contention that the voters don’t have a choice is blatantly false.

The President’s war voting record was pure black, so all his peace talk was electioneering. And he defeated qualified candidates who really were antiwar, as did Bush before him. So you either have little knowledge of American politics or you’re deliberately misrepresenting the facts to support your it’s all the Illuminati or dark cabal or powers that be or whoever the boogeyman, straw man, bad guy of the day is. Because you don’t want to place the blame were it really belongs, with the incumbency of evil and their war and pork electorate who never saw an unnecessary war that they didn’t like.

jj59
jj59

huntz, I thought about that alot today. This seems to be their latest trick to remove people from standing up with other patriots in restporing the country. I am concerned about OK’s and we’re a part of them as well. What do you think?

jj59
jj59

does richard agree with anything said here? LOL

mdreinke
mdreinke

$8 and he does not have internet for 3 weeks. Where is he … inside the hollow planet playing the bongo? Maybe I should start my own site and just mix Star Trek with Battlestar Galactica with some Barney Miller and a little I Love Lucy. Maybe some Flying Nun also. Where is my Bong … I mean Bongo? Hmmmm?

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

I’m still waiting for people to come back and show me that the oil fields are refilling and aren’t depleting at a rate of 9 barrels used for everyone discovered. I’m not going to hold my breath because I don’t think that they can.

But I’ll take a look at what you’ve linked to on election fraud and let you know what I think.

beatbox151
beatbox151
cmych
cmych

Just got this email. The person sending it said it was started in May but is still going.

Fox is running a poll about whether the flag should be banned in schools in order not to inflame Hispanic students. The poll is being sandbagged by SEIU and we should mount a counter action if you agree with me that the flag should be taken down for no one.

Just in case you haven’t heard yet Fox News has a “Poll-Should the Flag Be Banned at Schools?”

Moveon.org, Organizing for America , and SEIU have been twittering today to go to Fox Poll and vote to ban the Flag …. and right now it is working.

SHOW THEM WHAT TRUE PATRIOTS BELIEVE!!! Let’s flip those numbers and show the leftists we are organized and on the move….flip the numbers now-FLIP THE HOUSE in November!

GO HERE NOW: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/

……….and then pass it along!

jj59
jj59

sounds fair richard.

paladin
paladin

Richard…..google Ohio election fraud…there was testimony by one of the contractors about the vulnerability of the software.

also…try Devvy Kidd+election fraud

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj

Rather than questioning my objectivity in a discriminatory manner, when you have no evidence of my not being objective, because you don’t like the truth that I’m providing. Why don’t you ask the other commenters to disprove how we can be using 9 barrels of oil for every one discovered and not be running out of oil?

It seems to me that they’re the ones clinging to fallacies who lack objectivity, not me. Or else they recognise the truth of what I’m saying and don’t want to admit that they’re wrong after it’s been proven that they are. Either way it doesn’t reflect very positively on their character, now does it?

okumurals
okumurals
jj59
jj59

richard,

you are certainly entitled to your opinions of others here, however, I can’t help noticing that you have disagreed with just about everything that has been posted by our members, no matter the topic. Is there a reason for this?

richardterra1
richardterra1

Paladin,

I never said that the U.S. election process was squeaky clean. All I said was that all things considered, from the information that I’ve looked at, the electorate has a choice and chooses war and pork rather than peace and prosperity. And it isn’t just the elections, the polls overwhelmingly show the same thing. I seriously doubt that they’re all gerrymandered, but I’ll take a look at what you’ve linked to and give you my opinion.

jj59
jj59

cmych, thanks for that link! Vote is in. Also posted at OK’s

jj59
jj59

Actually, and to spare paladin scrolling backwards for what was said by you richard, I’ll repost here.

“All the voters have to do is do what they should have been doing long before this. Removing people from office who are spending our money on war and pork that we don’t need and can’t afford.” THAT, is NOT the same thing as THIS: the electorate has a choice and chooses war and pork rather than peace and prosperity.

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

Because I think that they’re wrong, that their positions aren’t supported by the facts, and that people who perpetuate the types of fallacies that they are, are a strong contributing factor to why the U.S. is going down the tubes, that’s why.

chrisb
chrisb

Wait did someone actually say the elections are legit. Hmmm I will provide an analogy and take it for what it is worth. If the world is as screwed up as we believe, the banking system is criminal, the politicians are all on the take ( except a few either by blackmail or extortion) and all the other front company’s like Haliburton, Carlyle, IBM, Mocrosoft, every pharm company under the sun, would one really expect the elections to be legit. If you said to yourself, yes there is one legitimate thing on the planet and that is the election process, go to the back of the class. This is hardly a legitimate thing on the planet except the Mickey D’s double cheese (chloride added) with the hot mustard. If you think about how the system works and how many years of planning these elite do and their perpective of planning for the future, you had better believe that whoever their boy is to move their agenda forward is the boy that gets in. Really, did you really think McCain was the guy with his stumbling bumbling very questionable past. Hell no. THey wanted someone who would wow the people and wowed they got. Really think Gore was going to get in. This was allllll planned and a diversion. NOTHING IN THIS WORLD HAPPENS BY ACCIDENT. IF YOU THINK OF ALL THE FAILSAFE MECHANISMS THAT WERE SET IN PLACE TO PREVENT A 9/11 AND DESPITE ALL THAT IT STILL HAPPENED, NOTHING BUT NOTHING IS NOT PLANNED AND CARRIED OUT. AGAIN YOU’VE HEARD FULFORD TALK ABOUT GLORIA STEINHAM AND HER PART IN THE WOMEN’S LIB MOVEMENT AND YOU KNOW THE END RESULT OF THAT PLAN.MORE MOMS WORKING, MORE TAX REVENUE AND MORE KIDS AT THE MERCY OF THE DISINFORMATION EDUCATION SYSTEM. THE LESSON IS TO UNSCRAMBLE WHAT YOU THINK IS AND REALIZE IT IS NOT.Our politicans are actors. Remember that. BArack Obama is and was a nobody. He is in for a reason. You guessed it. To save tiger woods.

richardterra1
richardterra1

The electorate has a choice and is making bad choices, is that clear enough? If your links prove otherwise I’ll let you know.

jj59
jj59

alright richard, that’s fine. I understand your perspective and I’m ready to engage in a new topic. Thank you for your thoughts. I am not trying to challenge you and I am sure that you know much more on this subject than I.

kohala889
kohala889

Richard, I’ll tell you what reflects poorly on one’s character: constant negativity and denigrating the knowledge and motives of others.

paladin
paladin

Richard

I was going to post a comment in regards to one of patriotkate’s posts of last week but never finished it. It was very related to this subject. Perhaps I’ll finish it and cut and past to this comment page.

But I think people are extremely naive if they think the elections are legit. Not all are fixed…..but it really doesn’t matter because both parties are just two sides of the same coin anyway.

jj59
jj59

chrisb, thanks fot your common sense input.

jj59
jj59

kohala, Amen brother.

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

If your such a stand up guy and I’m not, then why don’t you show me where a 9 to 1 depletion ratio doesn’t result in running out of oil rather than taking cheap shots because you don’t want to face the facts?

richardterra1
richardterra1

Paladin,

I guess you just conveniently ignored my post about all the antiwar candidates because it doesn’t support the no choice fallacy that you’re peddling huh?

g7enn
g7enn

Chrisb,

Unfortunately, I have come to the exact same conclusion. Well said by the way. I like the mustard humor. Like I’ve said previously, for the longest time, I just couldn’t believe the MK-Ultra information & the people on youtube attesting to it until a psychologist friend told me he sees these people in his practice, satanic influenced and all. I don’t know if I ever would have believed it if someone I knew well & trusted hadn’t told me and what he told me was very similar to what people like O’brien and Brice Taylor have said. The psychologist told me had one client who would not tolerate being around any reptiles. She told him that one of her tormentors had reptile like eyes. He was CIA.

Another friend of mine, didn’t believe this satanic MK-Ultra information either, until he read Brice Taylor’s book. In the book it talks about a young Michael Jackson being handled by Bob Hope. My friend then remembered he’d seen a very young Tiger Woods (5 or 6 I believe) with Bob Hope on TV illustrating his golf prowess years ago. This convinced him that these people aren’t making this up. Anyway if they were, surely Clinton, Bush, Gore or someone would have sued them by now. No law suits.

Stan Monteith claims at the heart of the illuminati is Satanic (Luciferian) occult practice.

jj59
jj59

richard,

this is not a board for trying to argue with every ones comments. I don’t think that there is anyone here any longer that is trying to disprove or prove the subject of “peak oil” started yesterday. The important point regarding this subject is that all here agree that we need to get on alternative resources. Maybe we should direct the discussion that way rather than beating this dead horse of peak oil? Nobody here (including you) get is all right all the time. Lighten up Francis! Let’s move on now ok?

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

Backing out so soon, I thought that you wanted to get at the truth?

It’s all the big bad boogeyman’s fault isn’t it? That’s my problem right? I don’t believe in Santa Claus, Grinch and the Tooth Fairy like a lot the others around here.

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj,

If you’re so afraid of having the fallacy of your positions revealed, then don’t engage in the debate.

jj59
jj59

I’m beginning to sense a troll on board? One sent to try to antagonize us?

jj59
jj59

richard, I said in my 8:18 post that I wasn’t interested in arguing with you what I believe about vote fraud being absolutely true.
How about this; You PROVE to ME that I am wrong?

kohala889
kohala889

Richard excuse me, but when and where did I enter into the oil debate? I deliberately stayed out of it because I have no deep knowledge either way.

As to your so called anti-war candidates, isn’t that how Obama campaigned? None can be trusted to follow through. As Paladin states, they’re just different sides to the same old coins. And this machine only accepts coins.

Can’t we all just get along?—–Rodney King

Richard, counterpoint is fine but try using a bit of finesse and moderation. Anyway, SOMEBODY’S got to be the boogeyman.

beatbox151
beatbox151

Well his plan seems to be working because he has managed to grab everyone’s attention.

Like my mama always said “Ignore him, he will go away.”

Remarkable changes are happening!
stop arguing and look around you

8) Please!

hutz
hutz

JJ between Ted Nugent, Chuck Noris ,Country music,RAP,OK and the tea parties and other patriotic groups everything is perfect.

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj

You’re the one making the false accusations and jumping all over my case before I’ve had a chance to look at the links. Is there a reason for unjustified insults?

hutz
hutz

I FOUND THIS COMMENT AND FELT COMPELLED TO COPY IT HERE
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OK everyone, I have Faith and Hope and it comes God of course and the actions of the Guardians of the Free Republic and the Restore America Plan (restoreamericaplan.net). Check it out. They are actively working to return us to a Constitutional Government. They have Grand Juries established in every one of our 50 States. There are things now going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of and are being told to Hold Firm and Pray Pray Pray. The “man” currently in charge won’t go out without a fight so we need to be prepared and that’s why we need to have our communications set up other than the net and cell phones. Others are exchanging info on Ham radios, AM Radio, Crystal radios and Morse code. Today I heard someone who was familiar with the border issues and he felt that would be where all this would start, and that is exactly what “they” (Gov. Man) wants. I understand the fear and concern we all have, though the enemy thrives on our fear. My best bet is to secure our neighborhoods as mentioned above, find out what everyone’s skills are, so when the s***t hits the fan, we will know which house has the Dr. or Nurse or Mechanic etc living there. I used to live in CA, I had an earthquake kit to care for 3 households, food, water, blankets, flashlights the whole nine yards. Living in AZ, I had to start over with a kit to include more medical supplies and freeze dried food etc. There are so many Vets, Peace Officers, Military that will be on the sides of the Citizens. Take heart, be prepared and strong. God will win this fight. As Patriots, we must be prepared for whatever comes, and that includes our Souls. Peace to you all, and please check out the RAP website and seriously think about signing the Petitian to join. Peaceful4Now, Jan

sierra
sierra

The Origins Of Oil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJdNqYeVwX4

Col L Flectcher Prouty, stating that oil is not a fossil fuel.

Bottom line… “follow the money”… Col Prouty spells it out.

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

I guess in your book telling the truth about peak oil is constant negativity and denigrating the positions of others huh?

richardterra1
richardterra1

Kohala,

Don’t you think that you’re being a little disingenuous? Surely you know that unlike Obama, a lot of antiwar candidates had antiwar voting records as well. And look who got on the ballot and got elected.

jj59
jj59

richard,

you are becoming comical now….hahahaha.

huntz, I agree.

beatbox, I hear you. I’m switching gears now.

hutz
hutz

richardterra1
WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR?

richardterra1
richardterra1

jj

If you’re comfortable in false paradigms with the others who cling to fallacies, then nobody is stopping you from joining them.

I’m just trying to get at the truth.

richardterra1
richardterra1

Hutz,

Neither, I wouldn’t hire them for the job, why should I vote for them?

hutz
hutz

richardterra1
YOU SOUND LIKE MY EX-WIFE

hutz
hutz

I HAVENT VOTED SENCE 2000

chrisb
chrisb

kohala889
See you are smart. You acknowledge you don’t have enough knowledge about the spill and stay away. I stay away for a different reason. It is this, it was planned, it was designed to take me and the dog down mentally and drain us of our superpowers. I know now that I have to save what little lightening bolt strength we have for the Aliens who might be breaking down our doors. Lew , good listen on Alex Collier and very much shades of Phil Schneider. These guys all have as he said a small piece of the puzzle but the puzzle is pretty amazing. I still wish I could find the book INterview with an Alien and I’m sure it will be in the last place I look. 🙂 Anyhow just like 9/11 I won’t get immersed in the mechanics of the GUlf. I know a contractor down there who’s expertise is clean-up and he apparently is making soooooooooo much money he will retire with a fortune. Million upon Millions. Another is a BP employee who now by being on the scene and moving there for a year is getting $15,000 every 10 days to supervise safety aspects. I take my broom and dustpan down and they offer me nothing. In the meantime can we vote for raises for the AIG execs.

hutz
hutz

who the hell is Sheldon Nidle?

richardterra1
richardterra1

Hutz,

The electorate eliminated all the peace and prosperity candidates in the primaries, pretty slick huh?

hutz
hutz

That was Richard

chrisb
chrisb

devvy Kidd Paladin… We are still drinking from the same water fountain. LOL>> She’s a great gal and at one time teamed-up with LArry Becraft. Becraft and Tom Cryer now have a radio show but Devvy has spoke of this for many many years. She is an amazing lady.

hutz
hutz

I wish I hadn’t been brainwashed for the last 54 years. I hate those that want to control others and I want justice for the crimes against my mind that I didn’t know about.
I demand 6.5 million in damages .I will file the papers by November.
Everyone else should sue the cooperation as well .Class action filed at the world court. 300 million times 6.5 million =

jj59
jj59

DC Declares War On States
By Chuck Baldwin
July 20, 2010

This column is archived at
http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=1898

Among the limited duties of the US Government enumerated in the federal
Constitution is Article. IV. Section. 4. “The United States shall guarantee
to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall
protect each of them against Invasion.” However, for several decades now,
the federal government in Washington, D.C., has shown great ambition and
propensity to engage in activities to which it was never authorized, and to
ignore those responsibilities with which it is specifically charged. The
responsibility of the federal government to protect each State against
invasion is a classic example of the latter.

Can anyone deny that the states on the US southern border (California,
Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas) are being invaded by an ongoing onslaught of
illegal aliens (many of whom are violent and dangerous criminals)? Somewhere
between 12 and 30 million illegals now reside in the US. The entire country
is feeling the effects of this invasion, but the Border States are literally
under siege. And not only does the federal government do nothing to protect
the states against this invasion, it actively wars against states such as
Arizona when they attempt to protect themselves. Yes, I am saying it: the
Washington, D.C., lawsuit against the State of Arizona’s immigration laws
should be regarded as an act of war against the State of Arizona in
particular, and against the states general in principle.

Please consider what Arizona and the other Border States are dealing with.
According to published reports:

*In Los Angeles, 95% of all outstanding warrants for homicide in the first
half of 2004 (which totaled 1,200 to 1,500) targeted illegal aliens. Up to
two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) were for illegal aliens.

*Some private reports state that 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix and
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque, New Mexico, are for illegal
aliens. These reports cannot be verified, of course, because the feds
discourage law enforcement agencies from releasing such statistics.

*At any given time, up to 75% of those on the most wanted list in Los
Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

*23% of all inmates in LA County detention centers are “deportable.”

*LA police estimate that violent gangs, such as MS-13 and 18th Street Gang,
are “overwhelmingly” composed of illegal aliens.

To read one very enlightening testimony given before Congress by an expert
on illegal immigration containing some of the above information (and much
more), go here:

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm

hutz
hutz

“The most powerful enemy can be conquered only by exerting the utmost effort, and by necissarilly, thoroughly, carefully, attentively, and skillfully taking advantage of every, even the smallest “rift”among enemies,of every antagonsim of interest…” Joseph Stalin

hutz
hutz

I mean no offence to anyone here, for I know that there are a lot of good people here for sure! But we absolutely must stop this bickering and move forward or perish; it is that simple!

jj59
jj59

YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS!!! This will bless you I promise.

Censored Protest At Ground Zero

http://thepocomokepubliceye.blogspot.com/2010/07/censored-protest-at-ground-zero.html

hutz
hutz

Just saw this from Judge Napolitano, of Freedom Watch on Fox News. Obama has given the order & permission to the CIA that they can begin assassinations of Americas in the USA, if the CIA believes that those Americans can be considered “Terrorists” Killing can now be done on US soil as well as overseas. Judge Napolitano states this is a violation of the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights & the “Due Process Clause”. Be careful folks, be very careful!!!

http://www.ResistNet.Com/Group/MassachusettsPatriot?CommentId=26007

jj59
jj59

Follow the link, you’ll be GLAD you did.

We Are All One Consciousness – Human Race Get Off Your Knees http://www.davidicke.com/articles/media-and-appearances/36572-we-are-all-one-consciousness-human-race-get-off-your-knees

jj59
jj59

huntz, will you post on OK’s? Your link isn’t working for me. Thanks!

cmych
cmych

This is interesting. It would seem that RAP is working. Check out this info on the Needs Process. Maybe you might want to fill out the form?
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/07/first-rap-conf-call-needs-was-bomb.html

hutz
hutz

cmych
I am on the needs list and it goes out next . I have been told these funds are not coming from RAP . However I am suspicious that the GJs for RAP are the donors of the funds.

g7enn
g7enn
ricdonnell
ricdonnell

well jus got in… read ben’s report… another history lesson..wow and now 3 weeks off.. whats next Ben? I think i’ve had enough of history lessons and want the meat of whats going on.. I thought we could count on you for the truth… now it seems like your hiding something like all the others…

chrisb
chrisb

Hutz
Sheldan is a spokesman for the Galactic Federation so if you have complaints about what they are doing send it to SheldanNidleisthemanjustaskhimandhewilltellyouso.com

Actually funny that I like this guy and have listened to him but honestly,I saw the movie Inception yesterday with the dog and about 1/4 of the way through the movie you are getting somewhat lost about which is the original dream and which is the dream of the dream and the dog was so obnoxious cause he got lost ion the first dream and started asking toooooo many questions. So I am saying to myself , maybe this is a sign. Maybe it is a sign I am certifiably nuts reading Sheldan’s stuff and saying to myself, is Sheldan dreaming this stuff up or does he actually have a contact. Hutz, don’t step into this pot of eggshells. You already have your hands full enough. Sheldan knows who he is and that is all that matters. I know who I am and the dog knows who I am and therefore he gets fed. Sheldan is losing points like Ben and Like Poof and Casper is way way far in the hole so don’t get wrapped up in things that leave tooooo much to interpretation. Finish maxing out the cards and then let’r rip.

Paladn, also Devvy used to be with WE THE PEOPLE and then had fundamental disagreements with Bob Shultz and it is clear Bob, although an honorable man with a big ego has been thwarted at every turn by the IRS and DOJ> It has been atleast 10 years for Bob accomplishing very little besides waking people up. He has lot in the legal arena constantly being shut down. He originally took out a full page ad in the USA today exposing the tax fraud and was going to do the same thing with the Washington Times a more openminded publication but the govt. got to them and said I will audit you and Sung Young Moon also if the article runs.

chrisb
chrisb

ricdonnell, Ben is in conference and must not be disturbed. He is with Sheldan, One Black Dragon, One White Dragon, One person in Drag, and two small ninja turtles. Now we could have some excitement here and do an over /under on the subject matter of what Ben will say when he gets back. Will it be that there is a new Emperor, Emperor WATSOLOW MYYINGYANG, or there was another assassination attempt and he is in protective custody or he was at B Sr. Funeral or at the race track. We have three weeks to figure it out what Ben is going to say. This I feel sure of. If the new system is not up and running by the time he gets back, then we know he was at the race track.

hutz
hutz

Thank you cris .
U have blown me away today and I cannot stop laughing . You are truly gifted if your not telling the truth that is . lmfao ha ha ha ha ha

hutz
hutz

just one question .Is sheldon one of obummers lovers?

lew3
lew3

g7enn, many thanks for the link to the HBO program, “Hacking Democracy”! I’ve only watched 36 minutes of the 1 hour and 22 minutes but I’m already convinced that election fraud is real.

Edge
Edge

Richard–
I can be wrong, but I believe the following—
Majority of the posters here do not believe in peak oil —
and also believe that oil is obsolete as an energy source–
Majority of the posters here believe the Gov. and TPTB
should immediately release all suppressed clean, cheap,
free energy data, and help fund same, to make it a reality–
Quit running a guilt trip on the public, by saying they are using and wasting too much obsolete carbon based fuel,
so they can increase taxes–
The public should swamp their elected representatives, to
demand immediate release of suppressed clean energy data– Most also believe that the majority of their elected reps. are bought and paid for by TPTB and the large corporations, either through large donations or back room deals or other means like (blackmail?) etc. —
Richard- I may be wrong, but I think your going to have a
tough time changing some of their views–because one of
the reasons they are here, I think, is they are fed up with
the system and TPTB—

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Hutz, at this point, who hasn’t been one of Obama’s lovers? Men, women and a couple of Shar Peis, this guy gets around. No wonder that he is so incompetent at running the country, he’s on a constant love jones. Have you seen some of these alleged lovers? Evidently, he goes for something OTHER than superficial good looks.

Okay, so enough insults of the illegal resident of the White House. I just wanted to come down here and toss large handfuls of sparkly white love, affection and protective care for all of you. Even those that keep trying to provoke the Great MK into umbrage and the wielding of multi-syllabic edged words.

Suncrystal, intuition will become an extremely important asset in the future. When the SHTF as I have mentioned many times, we will be back in the frontier. Only those that are attuned to the world around them and the truth in themselves and others will be able to deal with what’s coming. Which is where women’s intuition will come in quite handy, thank you very much. So grab on to that power with both hands and keep it close.

We have talked about many things here at the BFC, consumed many cups of mocha Java with butterscotch chips and whipped creme and admired the marital arts training of ChrisB’s pups as well as his many buxom babettes.
As Meg Ryan told Tom Hanks in “You’ve Got Mail,” these many nothings have meant more than so many other somethings out there in the world collapsing upon us.

It is no mistake that there are politicians resigning, travelling and not in evidence anywhere right now. They know that economic collapse is in the air. They know that the Pentagon is running out of money. They know that they cannot borrow any more money because the debt now cannot be repaid. Their drunken orgy of spending is going to dwindle to spending targetted to keeping them safe and the truth hidden…until the chasm that they have dug is visible to everybody on both coasts of this country. Then they will try to RUN FOR THEIR LIVES because they know that we know—WHO CAUSED ALL OF THIS. Their plans are not working. I will not explain why I know that. I will just say that there are many highly paid economists and stock sharpsters who agree with me…and I HAVE MY INTUITIVE SENSE WORKING OVERTIME as well as my keen powers of observation and analytical mind on high RPMs.

The debates happening behind the scenes right now are:

Will the collapse occur slowly?

Will it be rapid and frightening, like an avalanche?

Will it drag other countries with it like tankers in a tropical storm’s undertow?

It won’t matter to us or to most of this country. We will all be affected. What is most important is to be near those that you can rely on in places that are safe from roving people etc. On the other side of the crummy stuff is the challenge of building the future together in a new way. Fasten on the hopeful part of this scenario and keep walking towards it.

I loved the Stubblefield article Kohala. Thanks.

Later,

MK

paladin
paladin

Edge…

Couldn’t have said it any better.

lew3
lew3

Edgewood, well said! A better place to debate about peak oil is over at http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6753 (likely anouther thread there), where there are real experts not we mere amateurs.

kohala889
kohala889

Hutz, I’ve listened in on most of Sheldan’s recent webinars and he actually was asked about Obama. His reply was that the guy’s a master politician and is just doing what he can to get from here to there (while staying alive). Seems to me that he’s got to toe the line or Michelle and the girls could be targeted for an “accident”. Hopefully, he will simply resign at some point and all will be well.

Edgewood’s right–we need to DEMAND that the suppressed technology be allowed. What could be better for this dying economy?

MK, the collapse? I’d go with rapid and all consuming like a tsunami, wiping the slate clean. But as with a tsunami, you first notice that the water’s disappearing. This is when the wise ones head for high ground. Right about NOW would be a good time.

Aloha nui loa

chrisb
chrisb

Hutz, I am in agreement with kohala889.
Obama is in a boatload of shit quite honestly. He can’t turn right or left and head in any direction without his controllers doing what they have done. You can take just about any congressman or senator who all of a sudden choked on food, had a heart attack, was exposed with a mistress, having happy hooker day, they are all in a very precarious situation. THe first thing is the power that these pieces of crap entertain in their position is enormous. The perks are tremendous. I have friends who are professional athletes and have been with them and they pay nothing. Free wining and dining, someone always picks up the tab, and this is the lifestyle they enjoy. Now wake up one morning and decide you want to do something good and have had it with the corruption. Well, Mr. Trafficant I sentence you to 8 years in jail. Obama is right there with Geithner, and many others. soooooo we wait and see how it plays out but Nidle’s scenario makes sense. Obama also could have been BS’ed to right from the beginning and they have plans to take him down. We have to see how it plays out.THen there is the third scenario which Alex Collier speaks about which is Obama is not from here which none of the upper crest is and when he returns home they will reaatach the tail.

Edge
Edge

Paladin–
Thx–Edge sounds great- I think I will use it for short–
You know, I strongly believe, the public should demand an
immediate release of suppressed clean energy data–
especially at election time, by asking the candidates
where they stand on the issue–
A person gets tired of hearing the same old BS- peak oil,
pollution, global warming, oil spills etc.–and they go on
to lay a guilt trip on people–by saying, we have to raise
the price to cut down on use and waste–
Me, living north of the border, can not say very much,
cause a lot of our exports are oil and gas– it would be kind of unpatriotic–
Thanks Lew, I’ll check it out–

sierra
sierra

Edgewood… in what part of “north of 49th” are you located?

Sierra

jdalton4
jdalton4

The responsible position would be: introduce free energy on a gradual basis to allow the existing society time to adapt. 20 years should be sufficient. Reducing net cash flow to the energy sector by 5% per year would permit reallocation of manpower and resources in a responsible way. Employees, families, children – all will be affected and must be cared for.

Second, local currencies must be developed. Hong Kong has a great system – they call it the “Octopus Card”, used mainly in their transit system. You put say $50.00 on the card and just whiz through the terminals. It keeps track of your balance – AND THERES NO PAPER TRAIL. Apply this system on a local basis and you have a beautiful local currency sytem. With effective local currencies barter replaces money which makes the Cabal obsolete.

Edge
Edge

Sierra- I live about 35 miles east of Vancouver in the
Abbotsford, Langley area–live rural on acreage–have the
front portion leased out to a wholesale plant nursery,
which qualifies me for farm tax, which is cheaper than
residential–
I think I’ve seen your name before, maybe a precious metals
or gold form–
Thanks- jdalton4-will have to think about that-
Edge-

cfree928
cfree928

Gotta love this kid:
http://www.tonic.com/article/katies-krops-katie-stagliano-11-grows-donates-tons-veggies-to-homeless/

but alas she may be soon considered a terrorist because of a proposed senate bill:

http://www.treeoflife.nu/gabriel-cousens-m-d/activism-outreach/bill-510/

If this bill passes, I would help organize and participate in a 2 million armed patriot march on D.C. to rout the
parasites out.

sierra
sierra

Hi Cfree928…
I was wondering the status of that bill… earlier (July 21, 8:03) posted this enquiry for MK:
……………………………………

Mk… do you know the status of this bill?
Just came across this article…but no date on it.

link: http://www.treeoflife.nu/gabriel-cousens-m-d/activism-outreach/bill-510/

Senate Bill S510 Makes it Illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food

It is to our food what the bailout was to our economy, only we can live without money.

“If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God.” It is similar to what India faced with imposition of the salt tax during British rule, only S 510 extends control over all food in the US, violating the fundamental human right to food.” ~ Dr. Shiv Chopra, Canada Health whistleblower.

Monsanto says it has no interest in the bill and would not benefit from it, but Monsanto’s Michael Taylor who gave us rBGH and unregulated genetically modified (GM) organisms, appears to have designed it and is waiting as an appointed Food Czar to the FDA (a position unapproved by Congress) to administer the agency it would create — without judicial review — if it passes.

S 510 would give Monsanto unlimited power over all US seed, food supplements, food AND FARMING.

More details at that link including list of sponsors and co-sponsors.

************************************

Sierra

sierra
sierra

Edgewood…

You’re *almost* in the neighbourhood…. I’m on “the Big Island in the Pacific”. (Short ferry ride away.)

Not me on the metals or gold forums.

Sierra

kohala889
kohala889

Hey Sierra, me too. Ever get up to Hawi?

North Kohala

dilvet
dilvet

Hi Folks,
I am from a third world country location.My recent delving into sujects like the illuminati,this forum and Christoper Story’s world reports has enlightened me on a reality that I never knew existed.
Since then I have been able to visualize a pattern of events occuring worldwide.In my small country,the Government is greatly oppressive and resorts to using draconian laws to stamp out even the mildest of opposition.
In keeping up with things in general,I have been an ardent fan of Alex Jones and infowars.com.Now,I am not sure from what was posted here if Alex is true to his spirit or another plant,as he has been labelled a Jesuit and CIA agent.
I would like an opinion poll from some of you to know what the members in this forum feel about Alex Jones.
What happens in the U.S.today has an impact on us directly.

jdalton4
jdalton4

dilvet
Alex Jones is a true patriot.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Please give the backround on Senate bill S510.
Who proposed it, sponsors’s name, backers and party affiiation. This curr and his devilish cohorts should be ripped apart by the ninja dogs.
How could anyone conceive such a cruel and utterly stupid bill and yet be allowed to draw another breath.
Take such as these to the New Nuhrenberg Tials.

jj59
jj59

Obama adviser: U.S. ‘ideal place for renewal of Islam’
Religion aide closely linked to imam seeking to build Ground Zero mosque

By Aaron Klein
© 2010 WorldNetDaily
Eboo Patel

A religion adviser to President Obama has close ties to the imam who wants to build a 13-story Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero. The two have been documented together discussing America as “the ideal place for a renewal of Islam,” WND has learned.

In February, Obama named a Chicago Muslim, Eboo Patel, to his Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Patel is the founder and executive director of Chicago-based Interfaith Youth Core, which says it promotes pluralism by teaming people of different faiths on service projects.

more here;http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=181865

greg
greg

… excuse me if this has already been posted but this is important for all internet users … i’ve been away for a day and there are another 100 or so posts to read!!

alex jones is having a bit of a fight with google at the moment over its’ censorship of search terms used on the google page

http://www.infowars.com/top-secret-america-google-launches-cover-up-of-google-spies-story/

he is asking everyone to search the term “..Google Launches Cover Up..” … this will push that term to the top of some search list and then story will be seen by more people going to the google page… only takes a few seconds to type it in once and then just keep hitting the search button … i keep the page open and go back every few minutes and hit the button 20 times … not much effort to try to keep the internet just the way it is

jj59
jj59

Hey all, if you didn’t catch this already, PLEASE watch this short vid. David Icke. It is awesome!
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/media-and-appearances/36572-we-are-all-one-consciousness-human-race-get-off-your-knees

myra
myra

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=178791
Ben responded to RMN.

Re: Chris Story’s report – emailed his site for ok to circulate. I read on his footnotes that the copying is illegal to have on another site? Would it do more harm than good if he himself took it down for a particular reason? Too many flipping questions. Peace all!

richardterra1
richardterra1

To Edgewood, jj, SC, Kohala, Paladin and others,

I’m interested in what the truth is and what I think is true obviously isn’t being well received by a number of posters here. That’s not my problem, that’s their problem if they are clinging to fallacies that they can’t prove with judicial standards of evidence and the scientific method. They’re mad at the problems that we have and they’re looking to place a disproportionate amount of blame on criminal elements of the plutocracy so that they can exonerate the incumbency and electorate of their guilt.

I’m simply pointing out that there’s plenty of blame to go around and in a democratic society like we have a lot of it belongs with the electorate and their incumbency. Some blame shifters don’t accept that and allege that we don’t have free and fair elections because of vote fraud.

I’ve looked at some of the videos and links pertaining to vote fraud. Maybe some of the people providing the links could benefit from reading the amount of case law that I have. And spend some time looking at the court cases of alleged vote fraud. There’ve been vote fraud cases for as long as there have been elections. And the courts on occasion over turn elections and convict people of vote fraud. The question isn’t whether there is vote fraud in America. Because the convictions and other evidence indicate there is. It’s a crime and that is what law enforcement is for. The question is are there free and fair elections in the U.S. and elsewhere?

I think that it’s worth pointing out that the incumbency of evil and the war and pork attack electorate in the U.S. isn’t a new phenomena. So it wasn’t caused by new voting machine technology. It looks to me like it’s been part of American politics from day one. The U.S. has been in a constant state of war since it’s inception.

The links that others here provided of vote fraud contained evidence of vote fraud just like the court cases. What they haven’t done, and I’m still going through them. Is show that the system of checks and balances to enforce laws against vote fraud are ineffectual or that the fraud is so prevalent that people don’t have the option of electing peace and prosperity candidates rather than war and pork candidates. That hasn’t been proven to my satisfaction, maybe as I do some more research that will change, but from what I’ve seen so far I think that the incumbency and the the wars and pork are the will of the majority of the electorate. Maybe some of the elections haven’t gone the way that they should have. But I don’t think that every peace and prosperity candidate for the congress and senate in the last election either failed to get on the ballot in the primary or lost the election, and there were dozens of them, because of massive vote fraud. That would be like trying to cover up ufos or 911. It would be to difficult to cover up, to many people would know and there would be a much greater body of evidence and a lot more whistle blowers than there are.

As far as peak oil goes, if people want to ignore the depletion v discovery deficiency and pretend that peak oil isn’t real they do so at their peril. Because if it hits before we have replacement energy ready, it’s going to cause a lot of problems. And ostriches ignoring peak oil and pretending it doesn’t exist are part of the problem with why preparations to get replacement energy in place in time may fail. Maybe there are sequestered oil fields that have been found but not disclosed that can be brought on line to prevent a crash. If there are there isn’t any evidence of them that has been confirmed with information released to the public. I don’t think that it’s responsible to depend on something that there is no proof of that it exists.

No one here has answered my question as to whether over unity technology is safe for commercial use. It can reportedly be weaponized and is much more dangerous than nuclear weapons. I’m sure that that is the reason that some of it is sequestered. Is some of it benign and would it be safe to release? I don’t have the answer to that question. But I think that the way to find out would be with certified testing laboratories like UL.

A hydrogen economy is clearly viable, but it needs to be built BEFORE peak oil hits if that is the direction that we’re going to go. Because to transition to renewable energy for grid electricity and hydrogen for transportation fuel. It means that the carbon fuel electric plants need to be phased out and the grid capacity needs to be doubled to produce transportation fuel from water in addition to providing electricity for the existing infrastructure. That can’t be done overnight, it’s a decades long process. Anyone who’s studied peak oil in depth knows that the production of conventional oil can drop off much faster than replacement energy capacity can be gotten in place. So the time to transition is now before oil becomes scarce. Some nations have already secured energy self sufficiency, the U.S. isn’t one of them yet. And people who deny peak oil in the face of overwhelming evidence that it exists and is occurring are part of the problem.

People who deny that the electorate is making bad choices and lack culpability are part of the problem.

paladin
paladin

dilvet….

Welcome to forum….I think you’ll find this a good source for information and thought provoking material.

As for AJ (Alex Jones)…I’ve been listening to him for several years and he is one of the few in the patriot movement who have been leading the charge. Recently (6 mos or so) he had a falling out with Jeff Rense and Jack Blood…for which a mini smear campaign was launched against him, alleging many things that are, IMO, unsubstantiated.

However, its apparent to me that AJ is making a lot of money and getting wealthy from his celebrity. His wife is Jewish and some have tried to use that to say he is easy on the Zionists. I haven’t found that to be the case, however I did hear him say once that Hollywood was run by the Arabs…which is completely inaccurate.

So….I think its up to every individual to determine his value to the movement. At this point, I scan the new articles on his site everyday and check to see which guests are on and pretty much take it from there. I think he is largely responsible for building and maintaining support for Ron Paul in the ’08 election. So his contributions are valuable….I just think you have to get through the blustery dialogue at times. And he doesn’t delve into the ET stuff which I find refreshing only because I like to stay focused on what I can understand and get my head around. The ET thing, IMO, is very confusing and there is much dis/misinformation floating around out there.

Anyway, just my two cents….and again, welcome to our group.

beatbox151
beatbox151

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2010140720100721

“Indeed, the current outstanding balance of overall Federal support for the nation’s financial system…has actually increased more than 23% over the past year, from approximately $3.0 trillion to $3.7 trillion

beatbox151
beatbox151
richardterra1
richardterra1

To Paladin,

Something is very wrong with Alex Jones and his sites. He’s peddling a lot of the same disinfo that a lot of the posters here are parroting; peak oil isn’t real, the nwo bogeymen are responsible for all our problems, and the electorate and incumbency lack culpability for them. And to make matters worse the censorship and troll problem on his comment boards are some of the worse that I’ve encountered. So his record towards free speech is a abysmal.

jj59
jj59

I think it’s time we all turn on the “Light”. We can acknowledge the dark, but can we give more attention to the Light?(And I’ll be the first to admitt, it’s something I have struggled with) But, there are so many more of us, carrying the spark of Light that IS our Creator, than there are of the dark elites and their puppets, trying desperately to hang on to their final moments here. We ARE consciousness\ Eternal Spirit.

So I have an idea (not all will agree, that’s ok too), but what IF, everything we post here, whether it’s good news or potentially bad news, each comment ends on a positive note? Allowing, or, keeping the “door open” to create good no matter what is being presented? Shining a little bit of light on every comment? In some cases, that might mean going out and finding something to remind ourselves that this is OUR home, and it no longer and never did, belong to TPTB. And THIS, was created for US and NOT the evil doers or TPTB! They successfully have squelched the Light within us for ions, but the Light remains. This is what they hate. Evil cannot stand Light.

Many of us here keep saying “We have to do something!” (And there has been plenty of suggestions…LOL- hunts with your snipers on roofs…LOL) But, while we’re reacting, and trying to make a difference by doing whatever we’re convicted to do, why not collectively be in agreement with the Light that IS, remembering we’re eternal beings? It may be a challenge, but are you up to it?

I don’t mean to “candy coat” the horrible things that take place. They can, and they should, be acknowledged. They are the events they make us reach for higher ground. They are the things that dare us to desire something better. They are the reason we cry out to God, or the Creator. The duality pushes us to grow and expand the love that was planted within us. “They” don’t have this divine gift, and they cannot have it as long as they continue in their ways. We are Spirit. They may just be empty vessels that can never be blessed with what we ARE.

So, I think this IS a spiritual battle and it always has been just that. They are and have always been, jealous of the human race. Always wanting to be above God. Maybe we were fooled along the line somewhere, and unknowingly made the most hideous sacrifice ever, by perhaps trusting evil, but not recognizing it as such, with our God given Divine conscious abilities until we were so manipulated and dumbed down, that we no longer remembered, or believed in, our conscious power.

The “Light” is coming. They know it. We have to remember it.

Here’s some food for thought; I was listening to George Kavassilas recently. He said “on the periodic table, there are elements that are stable and elements that are not so stable. The scientific community has a stability factor- a table that rates them in a numerical chart. They (the reptilians and grays) did an experiment and freaked out over their experience with the stability chart, because all of the elements in this reality are becoming unstable. They became scared, and ARE scared, because they continue to become less and less stable. The WHOLE reality is becoming unstable as we move toward pure light. This is the great guarded secret. They actually went forward in time and discovered that very thing here goes to pure light. They will no longer be able to function here when that happens.”
This reality is now speeding up. When the atoms spin faster, the molecules will fall apart. Gravity is increasing (they oceans are rising because the ice caps are being pulled down, not melting). The magnetic field is decreasing. Gravity increasing, magnetic field decreasing, so mother earth can find center. When mother earth ascends and become a star, the outer crust will cave in on itself. New codes and new genetic patterns are being formed and it’s all coming together because it’s all falling apart. The current barbaric construct must go because a new way of life is coming in.