Nakasone caught trying to flee Japan in a North Korean submarine CIA sources say

In a sign the secret battle for control of Japan has gone badly for the dark cabal, former Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone was recently caught trying to board a North Korean submarine with large amounts of high value financial instruments, according to senior CIA sources. This operation was stopped by pentagon white hats who are now carrying out a massive operation to get control of the entire Chinese periphery, including Japan and Vietnam. The White Dragon Society, for its part, is waiting for the chaos in the West to subside before making any moves.

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Truth always prevail! Dang!
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rklnrman
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You Mean Ding Dong The Witch Is dead.

fixthefuture
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The Unacceptable Cost of Judeo-Christianity; Its Legacy of Pain
Charles E. Carlson Oct 05, 2009

“The Unacceptable Cost of Christian Zionism” is offered as memorial to eight dead American soldiers, who did not need to die, and uncounted Afghans, Iraqis, and Palestinians, all killed the first four days of October. We also memorialize the calculated assassination of a thing we all use and depend upon, the “Dollar,” destroyed in a large part by unnecessary and contrived Serial Wars.

The Death of the Dollar” is a passing that will bring deprivation to a class of Americans who never dreamed it could befall them. In the “Unacceptable Cost” first published in August 30, 2007, we explain why we place the blame for Serial Wars and destroyed dreams upon America’s churches and church leaders, not all of them mind you, but most. They alone, as institutions, have the responsibility to know the truth and tell it, regardless of the cost. Truth is the product of Jesus’ work, but those who claim to follow Him from the mega-church pulpits have played the monopoly game of war along with the bankers and politicians. We blame them, and we see no reason why God will not; stop following them!

The Unacceptable Cost

Far and near, high and clear,

Hark to the call of War.

Over the gorse and the golden dells,

Ringing and swinging the clamorous bells,

Praying and saying of wild farewells:

War! War! War! (Robert W. Service – 1918)*

No religious persuasion has ever been more clearly responsible for so much bloodshed and destruction as has “Christian Zionism.” This 100-year old offshoot of fundamental Christianity has almost single-handedly legitimized wars in Arab states since January 1991. Its destructive power is only now being understood.

We Hold These Truths’ objective for nine years has been to explain why members of this loosely knit group we call Judeo-Christianity thinks and acts as though political Israel was a god. We have documented how they have been misled, especially at the seminary level, by deliberately corrupted scripture and commentaries about scripture, which has then been taught from thousands of pulpits and media outlets. We have amply covered the changes made in the Bible(s) used by Christian Zionists in prior referenced works.1

We note again that the grassroots individuals within this movement are almost always motivated by altruistic religious belief (this author was once one of these), while the driving force behind their leaders is almost always tainted by money and the power of fame.

This paper explores how Christian Zionism is co-opted by a foreign lobby, AIPAC, and used to carry out Israeli objectives. AIPAC and its powers were well documented in 1994, in One Nation under Israel by Andrew J Hurley, and published by We Hold These Truths.2

Southern Baptist pastor Jerry Falwell (died in 2007) may have been the first leader to recognize the potential for linking dispensational Christianity with Zionism and harness its combined power into a political movement with loyalty to the state of Israel as its primary and passionate mission. In the early 1980s, Falwell called his fledgling army “The Moral Majority.” It was later referred to as the “Christian Right.” Today the millions of people who have made the present state of Israel the centerpiece of their Christian religion have been given the name “Christian Zionists.” 3

We Hold These Truths prefers to describe both the Christian Zionist leaders and their misled followers as “Judeo-Christians,” a broadly accepted term, to reflect the fact that the religion they are following is no longer traditional Christianity, but one into which Judaism was injected, producing a radically altered hybrid.

Essential facts about Christian Zionism

First: It must be understood what Judeo-Christianity (also called “evangelicalism,” dispensationalism, or Christians Zionism) is: by any name, a 20th Century phenomena, an apostate-cult, meaning it practices, in part, a deviant path of following Christ, and it relies upon many varied human sources other than the traditional bible(s) for its theology.4 & 5

Second: Judeo-Christianity ascribes holiness to a foreign political state, Israel, as though it was itself a god. It placed political Israel on the throne along side of Jesus Christ, and, in so doing, its teachers ignore, if not annul, much of Jesus’ teachings. 1 & 2 & 3

Third: Rank and file churchgoers and many lesser known Judeo-Christian pastors think of themselves as moral, even when they are actively contributing to immoral acts, such as supporting mass military assassinations in Gaza and the West Bank. They do not consider these acts immoral because they believe events are ordained, or even demanded, by God.

Anger against Christian Zionists is misplaced, because they, too, are victims of their own acts. They probably bring more suffering upon themselves and their families than any other middle class group. Judeo-Christians parents rarely opposing any war that Israel favors, so it is quite likely more severe, and therefore more are killed in military combat, than for instance the sons of agnostics or other religious groups. We have yet to find reliable data to support this argument so it is offered strictly as this author’s observation and opinion based on many talks with parents and youths at churches where we have conducted vigils.

Finally, Judeo-Christianity is much larger than generally believed and is active in every state and community in the USA. The new CNN.com six-hour television feature, God’s Warriors, hosted by CNN chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour, stated in the introductory segment:

“A recent poll found that 59 percent of American evangelicals believe Israel is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. She also asserted: “The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs estimates 85 million evangelicals believes God tells them to support Israel — more than six times the world’s Jewish population.”

Several Pew Foundation polls have supported this statement over the last four years, and in fact may suggest higher percentages than used by CNN.6

For these several reasons Judeo-Christianity can easily be used by its leader, and by the leaders of Israel, to carry out a political agenda that favors that foreign political state over and ahead of the interests of America, and ahead of the interest of any humans in the USA or any other country except Israel. For the most part followers of the cult do not know they are being used. Without this understanding many are confused between Judeo-Christian religion and its political agenda. Pro-Israel activists, including John Hagee, should rightly be registered as agents for a foreign government, so open are their objectives.,Some of our allies against serial wars attribute them to Israel, working through its agents and lobbies for the purpose of gaining US dollar support and creating chaos in the Middle East for its own benefit.

Much is finally being exposed about the powerful Israeli lobby led by The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC’s agenda that calls for the USA to finance and bless its occupation of its neighbors, and eventually control the oil of the Middle East, tactics that are contrary to American interests.

Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have written a powerful paper, The Israel Lobby, which tells us Israel has too much influence in US Foreign Policy. Their paper has led to a soon to be released and much anticipated book that is making giant waves across the world even before it is printed, as Israel seeks to prevent its promotion.7

We Hold These Truths sees hope. Educate the laymen within our own churches, especially mainline churches, can break Israel’s power-hold over our politicians, and it can restore others to follow Christ instead of Israel. More important, we see no other way to do it!

Without the voting support of church Israel’s well-established desire to see Iraq destroyed and its oil divided up resulted in the first gulf war in 1991 and the present contemplated devastation of Iran is nearly unstoppable. AIPAC and many American businessmen have profit interests in war and campaigned for new wars as a matter of business, but it is the Judeo-Christians who have provided the grassroots clout to keep the War On Islam churning.

The Dollar Cost of killing:

The occupation of Iraq paralyzed the oil production from the 2nd largest oil resource in the world. Before the occupation it did not cost $50 to fill the family car. Before the occupation Christian Zionist children and grandchildren could afford milk at a cost per gallon less than diesel fuel, and truck drivers could afford both milk and fuel. Before “wars” on Iraq, American industry was healthy and had not yet been shipped to China.

Our economic catastrophe is real, lead by the real estate and mortgage bubble. Why? Because of the cost of a war is over $500 thousand million dollars, and most of the money has been printed, so it will have to be repaid in higher prices later on. This judgment is like a foul smelling vapor that cannot be put back in the bottle. I use the word “catastrophe” where others talk of “crisis” because crisis can sometimes be avoided and often leads to practical solutions. Not so with our “catastrophe.” We have passed the crisis stage years ago when we began serial wars for economic purposes, printing the money to pay for them.

There is no end to the amount of price inflation we can expect, food prices will surely be the next to skyrocket on our shopping list for reasons to be explained in our next issue. Judeo-Christians as a group are most responsible for our dollar dilution because it is they that supported the wars for which all these dollars were wasted on killing people.

Christian Zionist leaders like Gary Bauer, John Hagee and Pat Robertson are not the only ones who believe the Christian Zionist vote controls the USA. Politician Tom Delay who was an ardent supporter of every war against Islam, recently was quoted as saying at John Hagee’s Night to Honor Israel in Washington DC, that he not only “believes in the Rapture, I live for it” Too bad Delay left the world in such a mess just before his anticipated departure.8

Israel lobby harness Judeo-Christianity

Every politician in Congress and those competing for the presidency know George W. Bush became president because he and Carl Rove found a way to identify Bush with the Christian Right, but to get this blessing one must also be Israel blessed. Even today 70% of Republicans support Bush and his war in Iraq because what is left of the Republican Party is predominantly Judeo-Christian.

The relationship between the Christian-Zionists leaders and AIPAC is simple and straightforward. AIPAC pressures Congressmen in Washington to give Israel what it wants; the Christian-Zionist celebrities brainwash the laymen in hometowns to pressure the Congressmen at the polls, and the Congressman takes a junket to Israel and complies. Congress is in the vice between the strongest lobby in Washington and the biggest lobbying voting block in the country. Why would they listen to you or me?

Christians are deceived by Zionism

Misguided Christians have been used to fight and support war from the 11th Century Crusades to Iraq. The names have changed but the message has not. A Pope who called himself Urban II is said to have told the bishop and earls who were to lead the First Crusaders it was up to them to rid the Holy Land of infidels so “Jesus could return there.” They passed this message on to the peasants who suffered and died for this false cause for the better part of 200 years. The result was the feudal system in Europe.

Judeo-Christianity, like Pope Urban II, teaches we all must honor Israel ahead of America, and even rebuild a temple there before Jesus will come. The story has hardly changed in a thousand years. Never mind the fact that Jesus did not seem to say anything like this. Urban II did not share his private economic dreams with the peasants, but he did tell the leaders of the Crusade that the purpose of holy wars was for the loot, and the Crusaders proved to be expert looters.

The leaders of the Christina Zionists, Hagee, Robertson, and a hundred more are the knights and barons at the head of the Crusades’ columns. Their loot comes in the mail and from credit card contributions from the peasant’s foot soldiers.

Human cost to the Judeo-Christian families

Church-going Americans are not only going in debt for war, they supply their sons and daughters to be killed and maimed in the contest. Celebrity Zionists beat the drums for war that Israel wants, but I have not heard of Hagee’s or Farwell’s son enlisting, or any of the congressmen’s children. The scorched foot soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan include a disproportionately large number of Judeo-Christians, who we believe, often enlist because mom and dad raised him in the Judeo-Christian church where volunteering is considered noble, even today after Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Their youths are taught that if we honor Israel we earn blessings for America from God. It is these young men who pay with shattered bodies and broken minds for the free junkets to Israel taken by a reported 80 Congressmen in August 2007.

“Where are you going, Young Fellow My Lad,

On this glittering morn of May?”

“I’m going to join the Colors, Dad,

They’re looking for men, they say.”

“But you’re only a boy, Young Fellow My Lad,

You aren’t obliged to go.”

“Well, I’m seventeen and a quarter, Dad,

And ever so strong, you know.”

Recently I was introduced to a sandy-haired, smiling 26-year old with a crushing handshake. But he walked haltingly on two steel legs and his hip joints are also man-made so terrible were his wounds in a rocket attack in Iraq. He talked of friends who have died. He was 17 when he enlisted and the army is all he knows, he would go back to his unit. It did not surprise me when this clean cut young American told me he is a Southern Baptist…every bit a gentleman, he looked and acted the part. He confided that his mother has recently become adamantly against the War (though he did could not bring himself to engage in “political talk”). I know that this mother must be thinking… if only she had been pro-peace before her young son enlisted seven years ago.

We Hold These Truths has hear other stories from boys with a Judeo-Christian upbringing whose parents did not know they needed to guard their children from recruiters. We owe it to every Judeo-Christian to tell them about the cost of our serial wars against Islamic non-enemies. The giant Israeli Lobby does what it wants in its own interest…in Israel’s interest and they will not stop no matter what we do.

We must blame those who have influence, the Christ follower who mistakenly listens to the celebrity Christian leaders, and who are themselves victims. What has the Judeo-Christian movement given back to America? Is has sacrificed the value of loving your brother as yourself, as Jesus demanded…even loving your enemy. It has left in its place a legacy of hatred, war, violence, and diluted money, all in the name of Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament. This can and must be changed from inside these apostate churches and media sources.

We need to appeal to the sense of morality of Judeo-Christians. Its members are directly responsible for the three current crises in American culture, these being the War, inflation and the break down of morality that always accompanies war. They do it for only one reason; they are led into following an apostate Christianity that started only about 100 years ago, first legitimized by Cyrus I Scofield.1 & 5

We concluder there could have been no Shock and Awe or war of occupation in Iraq were it not for the Christian Zionists’ zealous campaign to destroy Muslim nations. The now publicly acknowledged War on Islam is in fact already 17 years old. Project Strait Gate was started to challenge it in its very lair. Jesus and his disciples took their arguments to the temple and the synagogues. We are doing the same.

What is the matter, Young Fellow My Lad?

No letter again to-day.

Why did the postman look so sad,

And sigh as he turned away?

Well, I hear them tell that we’ve gained new ground,

But a terrible price we’ve paid:

God grant, my boy, that you’re safe and sound;

But oh I’m afraid, afraid.

ENDNOTES:

*War! War! War! By Robert W. Service, poet of the Alaskan gold rush, who served as an ambulance driver, but refused to enter combat in World War I.

This story originally published as: “The Unacceptable Cost of Christian-Zionism” by same author, 2007, (http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=1697)

1Scofield Reference Bible Audio Visual, Charles Carlson (http://www.whtt.org/show)

2One Nation Under Israel, Andrew J. Hurley, AIPAC power and Israel’s history (http://eshop.whtt.org/eshop.php?id=28)

3Forcing God’s Hand, Grace Halsell, describing authors Junket with Falwell to Israel (http://eshop.whtt.org/eshop.php?id=28)

4God’s Wrath On The Left Behind, Lisa Ruby, an evolution of the Left Behind Series (http://eshop.whtt.org/eshop.php?id=28)

5The Final Apostasy, by Gordon Ginn, Ph.D., a deeper look at the abuse of Scripture (http://eshop.whtt.org/eshop.php?id=28)

6Pew Foundation asks what White Evangelicals, Mainline Protestants and Catholics believe about Israel (Pew http://eshop.whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=1389)

7The Israeli Lobby and US Foreign Policy, John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, http://eshop.whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=885

8″Rapture Ready: The Christians United For Israel Tour”, Mike Blumenthal at CUFI Washington DC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig

angiesolo
angiesolo

Great news Mr Fulford. Brief and to the point. I respect a bottom liner as yourself. Well worth the subscription. I hope for all of our sakes that there are many more to follow.

hutz
hutz

The Mungovan suit, composed by Utah lawyer Dr. Dale Livingston, explains, “These awards include secret cash awards. They are not limited as to the number of awards that may be awarded to any one person or group. There is no limitation placed upon any award. Any person or group of persons can be awarded this money, including: U.S. attorneys, federal judges, the president of the United States or anyone else for that matter.”

Livingston added: “The awards may be given to the same person or group, each minute, each hour, every day, every week, every month, every year or not at all. In other words, the U.S. government and the alleged Internal Revenue Service . . . have a perfectly legal (not lawful) system of bribery. The bribery works against the American people . . . when they expect impartial justice, and there is no proof on the record to the contrary.”

The murder of attorney Bergeson, who only threatened to initiate an investigation into what she believed to have been a stacked jury, sends the warning that Mungovan, by forcing the issue, may have placed a much larger target on his back. http://uswgo.com/payoffs-for-judges-prosecutors-is-legal-by-statute.htm
ckeyes06

hutz
hutz

Here is the first 20 minutes of Regan… http://www.4shared.com/audio/J3iDYhz3/Regan.html
RAP still moving along behind the scenes .military that is

chrisb
chrisb

foodrules, anyhow thanks for your comments. When I first goton this call tonight, the tone was not ont I believe of something positive. It was one of disappointment i believe so I literally got a knot in my stomach with other stressful things going on in my life. SO to me when I heard Regan talk about FBI and people putting themselves in Peril I shut down mentally I think. ANyhow I talked to a couple people tonight and whether I feel any better about RAP or not is not the point I guess. I have followed Story for most of his writing s and believe the avenues he mentioned are going to be what takes the system down by arresting of the bankers etc. RAP might well be the implementation of the logistics of operating a new govt govt but as far as getting the criminals taken out by first eliminating the banking end is the direction I have steered towards thus far. If you Remember I mentioned Becraft had nothing good to say about Kennedy and also mentioned Turners Lien theory being flawed so both of them appear to be out of this with new personnel on board to steer the ship once the FED is changed and new banking system in place. Let’s hope that is correct. Thanks for the comments and patience.

okumurals
okumurals

Very interesting, in case you missed this great accomplishment, posted earlier:

Man invents machine to convert plastic into oil

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/video/2010/082210.htm

hutz
hutz

crisb I really feel your frustration .It must be hard to love your country and follow so many things for so long just to be disappointed year after year .
But hey I’m involved now!I am lucky chrisb and I will see my new country someday soon . I am not a loser and will not lose faith in good overwhelming evil .
As far as turner goes he may even be needed in the future . It is apparent he wanted to be more aggressive than the others .
I do not see it going down with out arrests and maybe some force .

chrisb
chrisb

wbstreck, thanks for that explanation. I really have not kept up with them but to only hope they were headed in the right direction. So I thought the call was tonights call cause I saw it on the blog and thought it was live. As far as I believed, last I heard Turner was being protected by military and have never seen the corelation between anything they were doing and Interpol and the audit. So maybe I have missed alot but the reason I missed alot was basically knowing the people involved had followers of theirs in jail. So whatever the mechanics have been, I have not paid attention except to know that timetables were promoted and nothing to my recollection had occurred. Well, that is sort of typical of the mountain that has to be be climbed but at this point who believes Casper or others who have been around for so long. It seems maybe the new regime miight get something done. I also asked Story on numerous occasions what is happening with the audits and made reference to his statements of 15 months ago about WWIII getting ready to break out when nothing seemed to happen. I also asked about why aren’t more bad guys being horizontilized and a plethora of other things. So back in feb. SK or whoever was talking made many statements that never happened like political prisoners geting out of jail and other such things that never happened. SO the bottom line is , I ask questions and learn like everyone else. Anybody seen the dog? Thanks Hutz and there is much more than most will ever know. I have just about run out of gas and every letdown has mulitiplied by many times for many reasons. If you read Poof’s message tonight it gives people hope does it not and what do you think next weeks message will say? How about the following week and then multiply that by 100 and then take a rollercoaster ride and start all over. Then explain it to people who don’t want to listen and then hop on the rollercoaster again for another 50 and then the ferris wheel and then convince a few about 9/11 and go on and on. This is about the fifth dog I have had since I started. THey don’t live long either. Now we won’t even go to the long lists of people who have spent their whole lives conning people about the very topics we talk about.

kbcjedi
kbcjedi

RAP is being shaken out. The patriot community needs a house cleaning, it is like a bunch of tribes fighting each other for power at the moment. This will pass and their will be unity arise from the mix.
If you were to look for a corollary watch the upward progression of the price of gold and silver. There are highs and then pullback periods. Any new movement or idea goes through the same process. I believe RAP will make it, because of the lack of real alternatives. There needs to be a complete re-set of the system, not just some stupid reform approach.
I think the concept of RAP will filter very soon into the TEA party community and then the population at large. RAP and the return of Gold is as much as AD campaign as anything else. We are battling with the collective consciousness. I see the spiritual battle that is taking place very clearly and the out-picturing with the chaos between various groups.
Ron Paul will win in the end; it is the country forming around him. We are beyond the divide and conquer stage, those tactics have been exposed and the knowledge level is reaching the point that the propaganda is failing miserably.

gut1kor
gut1kor

Hi, i am a bit recent subscriber to this blog. I have been wondering if any of these things told by Mr. fulford ever came true in the past. All I read is this is going to happen, that is going to happen…etc…but I never saw anything happening at all…. any comments…

dingiem
dingiem

Gut1kor, please *read* the posts, because Benjamin never tells that specific things are going to be happening in a specific second on a specific day!
Again and again people come here think that everything is set into stone…which is not :-))))

He only tells what he sees and hears and the general sentiment of the world unseen to us. Remember the mass media is largely in control of the cabal, trying to force upon us a concensus reality.

Sometimes also he can be fooled by disinfoers like I was with the (partly) CIA-controlled galacticroundtable.com
Its all for us to learn, to discern between viable information sources and disinfo.
It takes lot of practice, but, as I experience, the truth is opening more and more before our eyes.
Eventually, its all about us.

dingiem
dingiem

Err…cabal is largely in control of the mass media 🙂

suncrystal
suncrystal

kbcjedi,

Ron Paul is a proud freemason and a doctor. His wife is a member of the Eastern Star. His daughters are Rainbow Girls.

These facts make him a member of the wrong side.

I knew this but had no “proof.” Synchronistically I received an email on this, just this very morning! Will try to cut and paste here later…

Lew, have you ever “tested” Ron Paul to see who he “works” for? His agenda, good or evil?

suncrystal
suncrystal

Here’s the email I got this morning. It’s from Rumor Mill News, “CGI Jordan,” whoever that might be. I’ll post the counter-comment in my next email. Unbelievable, really:

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[PHOTO]

Ron Paul speaking at Georgetown Jesuit University, alma mater of Carroll Quigley and Bill Clinton. Note the Freemasonic symbols on the wall behind him. [There are several.]

I know this is a taboo subject among Ron Paul supporters, of which I was one myself in the very beginning of his presidential campaign. And even if it is proven beyond any doubt that he is a freemason, many will just put it aside and pretend it doesn’t matter “because he is such a decent and honest man” etc. But many others are very curious to know what RP’s status is regarding Freemasonry because it does matter, and I fully intend to find out myself. Therefore, it is high time we started talking openly about it and try to ascertain the truth, one way or another.

I just happened to stumble across this comment over at the Daily Paul yesterday, and thought that I should share it with whoever is interested in knowing whether or not Ron Paul is a Freemason.

This does not prove anything in that regard, however it makes the probability that he is a Freemason very much higher since Eastern Star members are generally married to Freemason husbands, Rainbow girls are generally children of masons and because Ron Paul’s father was also a mason. And in addition, according to the comment, he “respects the organization”, which is wholly uncharacteristic of anyone who is supposedly fighting against the masonically-inspired New World Order.

Ron Paul is also an unofficial member of the John Birch Society, which was founded by masons, funded by Nelson Rockefeller and run by Jesuit-trained Knights of Malta. In other words, the JBS is a gatekeeper organization, designed to control the opposition and make sure nothing substantial is ever done to impede the New World Order system which just keeps on rolling over humanity.

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suncrystal
suncrystal

Here’s the nasty “rebuttal,” which has apparently been removed from the web. It portrays the Freemasons as good guys…:

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Here is the comment in full, rebutting an anti-masonic posting:

Ron Paul and Freemasonry

On April 20th, 2008, the oak says:

Liberty Oak Ranch

Quit using Ron Paul as a forum for your bigotted beliefs. You don’t know anything about him or his ideals obviously. You also know nothing about the Freemason or Eastern Star organizations.

1. Ron Paul’s father was a Freemason and Dr. Paul has said himself many times that he respects the organization and has been to many of the open meetings in his district. I should know, I was his scheduler for ten years.

2. His wife Carol is a member of the Velasco Order of the Eastern Star and maintains her membership in the Freeport area lodge.

3. Their daughters, Lori and Joy, were both Rainbow girls, another organization associated with Freemasonry.

Your hatefilled retoric regarding a benevolent, Biblically based organization is likened to those who have a fear of the unknown. It spawns lies and hate toward those who are innocent and have done good for others. Just try taking your child to the Shriner’s burn or crippled childrens hospital. They will take care of your child regardless of your ignorance and will do it free of charge. How many people has your paranoia helped?

[end of rebuttal]
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[Continuation of the whistleblower’s comment]:

Source: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46310

Unfortunately, the link now says “access denied” for whatever reason. Maybe you can explain to me why the link no longer works. I even tried to find the page again through a Google search (how I found it originally) and nothing. Poof! Gone. No trace. Not even a Google cache available. I wonder why? Hmmm….

If anyone knows the actual identity of this “scheduler” with the handle of “Liberty Oak Ranch,” please share it here with us to help confirm the validity of the comment.

I looked up the Eastern Star chapter being referred to if anyone wants to try to research this further:

Velasco Chapter No. 220 (District 4)

Worthy Matron: Mrs. Leota Romine
Worthy Patron: Paul Romine
Secretary: Mrs. Yvonne Huffhines
1210 N. Avenue O
Freeport Texas 77541
2nd & 4th Mon 7:30pm
Ph. (979) 233-1567

Then, one might assume that Ron Paul frequently goes (as the scheduler claims) to meetings at a masonic lodge in the same area, so I found this lodge listed with the Grand Lodge of Texas website, which it would seem is a very likely candidate for being one of those lodges he attends:

Read more: http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/ron-paul-and-freemasonry/

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suncrystal
suncrystal

from the Etheric Warrios site: 🙂 The world’s driest desert being turned into a garden!

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Rain In The North Of Chile.

It rained last 11th of August all over the Atacama, heavy rains in fact. This year there will be an amazing flowering desert, 4th year in a row now.

Coincidence? my ass!

This phenomenon used to happen only on “El Niño” years, or about once every 5 years. Once we gift Argentina, all of the Atacama will look like the Fray Jorge forest

Just the amount of interference (sabotage, subterfurge, betrayals, burocrats, etc) that has prevented us in 3 ocasions to complete the trip to Argentina is evidence enough of the importance of gifting all the HAARP crap upwind from the Atacama in Argentina, its all good, even if it takes another year it will be done.

I think that reversing the driest desert in the world will be one of orgonite´s greatest and most undeniable achievements, hence the interference. Even without any upwind gifting, this desert reversal process is well underway.

… the results that now have been seen in the Atacama are a result of 4 years of hard work, did not happen overnight, but results started to occur from 2007, when gifting started in Chile. Toño will post more about that.

cheers,

Alejandro

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siyem
siyem

Okumurals, I watched the video, is huge..its will make people wonder why this think is not out to the world widely yet???? thanks

suncrystal
suncrystal

Another incredible orgon-ite gifting at work, from Bear Claw inre the amazing END of northern Wisconsin’s 7-year drought!

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Organic Farmer Sees Orgonite’s Power

While gifting Northern WI, I met an organic farmer. I saw his sign along the roadside and felt compelled to stop. I’m glad I did. His products are the best. Natural bug-off that actually works. WOW! and the best tasting produce.

I gave him some orgonite and explained to him about my tower and water gifting and orgonite cloudbusters. He was open to it, even though he said he’d never seen a tower or chemtrail.

He did notice other more specific changes in his region. Other than the drought of 7 years, the disappearance of plant and animal life, bogs and lakes drying up.

I could tell he was very distraught by the effects of the geo-engineering.

Most people are not aware of earth changes like an organic farmer. He said he’d be happy to make some observations. He sent me a report on changes he has seen since his region has been hammered with orgonite. I’ll copy it here verbatim:

Dear Carl,

Was great meeting and talking with you. We have had over 23″ of rainfall, which started in early June. (That’s when I set up the first cloudbuster.)

After suffering 7 years of drought, new plant growth of blueberries, raspberries and blackberries. First time in 7 years I saw flowers on the dewberries. Many wildflowers and mushrooms have re-appeared, which I thought were gone forever (wild larkspur, bergamot, many daisies, clovers, marsh thistle, spiderwart, starflowers, skullcap, queenanne’s lace, peppergrass, goldenrod, fireweek and many others.)

I hope the moisture remains so that all the rest of the early bloomers can re-appear too, next year. More wildlife is present. Lake levels are rebounding.

It is so nice to see things the right colors of green. Everything has come alive again. Plants like wintergreen now actually have berries on them.

I put one of your organites in my greenhouse. I recently put one in my bee yard, as they have been struggling for years also. The last one of the three is saved to put in my pond once I install the pond liner so that for sure I never have to go without water again. Hopefully that will be installed this Sunday if I can get enough help to do it.

Thanks, God Bless,

Thomas

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martha
martha

suncrystal

thank you for your research on Ron Paul. Remember when Ben was saying Obama’s days were numbered…and quite a few of the military were behind Ron Paul? That is a red flag. Our military is as a group racist and sexist. Would fit right in with the Masons and the John Birch Society.They are wicked.

My uncle was in the John Birch Society..he was a doctor.Our bloodlines have President Taft and , I think Roosevelt back in the tree. My uncle sexually abused my mother while she was growing up and told her she should be grateful as she was so ugly that it was all she could expect. This is the type of people who are in the masons and john birch society….running our country and military.My mother only told the story right before she died when someone asked her if she had been abused. Guess she figured nobody was interested being raised in a family full of methodist preachers , doctors and social workers.Women were married to increase social standing and money.

jtgun
jtgun

cfree ,would you continue posting the secret covenent post that you put up a couple weeks ago?It does not need to be forgotten.Posters need to see and not forget those words from hell.

Larry
Larry

er, ah, 30 days hath September, blah, blah, blah. Item 2: isn’t there some rule requiring long winded responders to go somewhere else and start a blog of their own. nobody likes an onhanger.

dingiem
dingiem

Thanks suncrystal,

Nice to hear that we are helping nature (and in turnaround helps us), seems the orgonite really helps 🙂
Now imagine getting Sahara all green and dandy 🙂 No solar plants there!

Grendizer
Grendizer

Hey Gut1kor, what Dingiem is saying is absolutely right.

Don’t expect to see what Ben writes in his blog posts being reported by the corporate news media on your TV set, this will not happen!

Interpol for instance is in the US since October or November 2009 on behalf of the Chinese, British and Swiss parties I believe, trying to collect trillions of dollars from the US treasury the United States owes to these countries. Many bankers are being arrested or simply – as Christopher Story would put it – being “horizontalized”. Some are killed by the cabal to conceal any evidence or proof. These parties have not cashed in their moneys yet so this process of flushing out these banksters in the US and around the world will continue.

If you google “Interpol in the US” or any other keyword related to that matter, you will find many sources to educate yourself. Have you heard it in the news or read it in news papers? I haven’t, so don’t dismiss it because the cabal’s corporate news media has failed to report it to you, this will never happen! However one thing is sure:

1. The Asian countries are no longer buying bonds from the US treasury and financing this way the giant war machine in the US.

2. They want shared stewardship in all decision making processes in world politics, they want to reshape the world finance and redesign a new financial structure that benefits all and that’s more democratic, and they are participating at all level meetings to have their will heard, hence the G7-G8 is now the G20.

3. The Federal Reserve board, the institution that’s riding the US and the rest of the world to their New World Order is bankrupt and they need Asian money to survive and finance their world war campaigns and Marshall Law in the US. According to Ben the Fed will go belly anytime soon.

4. When this new financial system is in place, this will be a major shift and an alternative to the current financial system dominated by the Federal Reserve system. Many countries around the world will lean towards the new financial system because it will be a fairer one that’s not based on looting, enslavement and the destruction of the human specie. Trade and world politics will be rejuvenated in the process, and sincerely I doubt if Ben and his friends can force the corporate media to tell the truth in the West before this financial system kicks in.

5. The entire world (in the West and the leadership around the world) has awaken to the existence of the secret cabal and their names are known, so they can fool only those who wish to get fooled by their propaganda and their cynical plots, but basically the game is over. The Wizard of Oz has been exposed.

These are known facts by which you can assess if progress is being made and if we are getting closer to the goal or not. It’s hard to know what’s going on behind the scenes from one Blog post, and don’t expect Ben to divulge their entire strategy and battle plan, but rest assured that he and his friends are doing what they can to corner these rats and free humanity once and for all from these gangsters and Satan worshipers.

Hope this explanation helps. Regards

jj59
jj59

kbcjedi, I just loved what you posted at 3:50 PM. You are exactly right. This is a sprirtual battle, and this war over the control of humanity has been raging for centuries.It goes far beyond reforming this country and, embracing contitutional law,a new finacial system, the dismantling of the cobal and their NWO agenda, etc, etc. So much is happening behind the scenes in the physical realm as well as the spiritual and\or universal realms, that if we had the eyes to “see” it, we’d be completely blown away.

Once announcements of our new financial system are made and these SOB’s have been imprisoned, disclosure will follow. The technologies that have been repressed will be revealed and made available. With this comes the continued awakening and changes to our DNA (our animals as well) as our physical bodies prepare for 5th dimension and Earth continues in her ascension as well. History books will be rewritten. Most people will give up their relgious dogmas and will galdly embrace spiritual freedom. The list goes on and on and on. There is sooooo much more happening behind the scenes right now and any delays should be taken into considereation from a positive perspective….The entire world is transforming in such a way, that nothing in it’s history could ever compare. cheers to all!

positivechange
positivechange

grendizer,

there are severe problems with the new financial system. it will be worse han the one we have now. if a gold-backed currency is introduced, many countries will join. this will not bring more freedom, but a collapse in living standards. watch the secret of oz posted earlier on this blog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D22TlYA8F2E

the fed will be exposed of once the new financial entity is in place. this was outlined in the bank reform bill. it is an institution that owns itself and is accountable to no one. you can be sure that this institution will not be used to help humanity.

the problem with a gold-backed currency is that the central bank vaults have been emptied of their gold. guess who has it? once a gold-backed currency is introduced even more power is transferred to the very powers that are critizised widely for causing the mess. this time they will be hiding behind an entity that doesn’t even have owners, i.e. no one to blame.

the public will once again realize the magnitude of this once it is too late. if this is to be changed something really big and really public is needed – followed by public actions including public prosecution. otherwise humanity will get what its controllers decide to offer it.

positivechange
positivechange

….i’d like to add that it is the masses who enable the status quo or on the other hand, change. people who’s living standards are collapsing will normally be preoccupied with other stuff than spiritual awakening. even if frequencies become more and more beneficial for this. sure, some will awaken through tough times, but as long as a critical mass is not achieved…i don’t want to be pessimistic, but also not overly optimistic.

g7enn
g7enn

An Amero backed by gold means, according to Bill Still, more Rockefeller-Rothschild control because those who control gold will still control the monetary system.

“a true libertarian paradigm is not acceptable to the international banking cartel.

that is why they deliberately funded and pushed ludwig von mises (Ron Paul) on the population in the early 1900s, while they instituted the federal reserve and gold standard, usurping the constitution…

they continue to push the gold standard because it is the favorite monetary fraud of tyrants throughout history. bringing back the gold standard would be economically destructive, whereas going on a true colonial scrip, greenback, or continental currency would provide the funding through the monetary expansion needed to end fractional reserve lending in order to eliminate the national debt and end income taxation. the endgame of tyrants is a world gold fiat though a world debt fiat would be acceptable to them as well. they can always switch between debt fiat and gold fiat as one system causes complete economic breakdown, like a false left/right paradigm, pushing the former fraud as the solution to the current fraud.

that is why they also deleted henry george from the american memory even though henry george was america’s best-selling and most influential economist, selling millions world-wide of his self-published economic treatise.”

http://www.secretofoz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138:drinking-the-von-mises-kool-aid&catid=36:bills-news

“The depression experience of all countries under the gold standard has shown that it is scarcely worthy of being called a “standard” at all. It has shown that the so-called “stability” of gold and of foreign exchange destroyed the stability of the buying power of money and thereby the stability of economic conditions generally. In fact, the effort to retain gold as a “standard” has had such disastrous results all over the world that, for the time being, international trade has been deprived of some of the useful services which gold might still render it….

“After the experience of the past decade, it is improbable that many countries will want to give their currencies arbitrary gold values at the cost of domestic deflation and depression….”

The document then lays out what a correct monetary system should do, namely create and maintain stability in the quantity of money.

“Our own monetary policy should… be directed toward avoiding inflation as well as deflation, and in attaining and maintaining as nearly as possible full production and employment.”

http://www.secretofoz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=154

“When I was moved by many arguments and forces in 1925 to return to the gold standard, I was assured by the highest experts, and our experts are men of great ability and of indisputable integrity and sincerity, that we were anchoring ourselves to reality and stability, and I accepted their advice. I take for myself and my colleagues of other days whatever degree of blame and burden for having accepted their advice… (Winston Churchill)

http://www.secretofoz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128

abetterlife
abetterlife

wbsstreck,
You are incorrect. The Executive Commitee members ARE NOT dissassociated in any way shape or form, THEY are the newly appointed Authority of RAP. “Reedy” Is one of the “Guardian Elders” and a Executive Committee memeber.
Fridays call was damage control plain and simple. The FBI has nothing to do with their decision as it was just simply another smoke & mirror illussion to distract the GJ’s into transferring the Sole authority over to the Executive Committee under the guise of voting in a alleged “Interim President”
I do not Trust Regan, nor do I Trust what HE is SAYING regarding the alleged funding being stopped. More Smoke & mirrors and “carrot dangling” as it has been since April 2010.
As far as Sam K goes, you have been really misinformed.
Sam K was the Author of the Original, Organic RAP Declaration and its original intent. Sam K was removed by TT and threatened into going off the air and into exile May,2 2010. Sam K. did disclose important facts for all before he abrubtly left his broadcast in mid air-time (1st hour) of his scheduled two hour show. I suggest you refer back to archives and listen to that broadcast.
You sir are parroting misinformation. Your sources are obviously either mis-informed themselves or are feeding you alot of BS, and you are buying it-hook, line and sinker.

abetterlife
abetterlife

PS: In my humble opinion please consider;
The ONLY True Creditors/Beneficiaries and REAL parties of interest to ALL of the alleged debts created by US corp, ARE the living, breathing men and women on the Land.
All Principle and Interest belongs ONLY to the living and has been held in Trusts. We ARE The TRUE Creditors and They need our Consent in the flesh to Pledge our beneficial interests over for complete, absolute control of not only these Trusts, but of our Life, Liberty and Property.
They need our Consent with TRUE Physical Identities as authentication of Full consent in this Final Phase of the NWO Global enslavement plan.
Consider ALL the technology NOW in play that “records” YOUR Private identity and the real reason it is now being used.
Fiat Currency and “colorable” titles have run their desired course and no longer hold any value. They need Physical Acceptance and Consent to move into their final phase and have Complete, Absolute Title and Control.

g7enn
g7enn

positivechange, suncrystal & Martha,

Thanks for your comments. Excellent points. It is so easy to be fooled by these guys. No wonder Ben Fulford has such a difficult time discerning truth. I’ve been fooled by Ron Paul, Len Horowitz, Tim Turner, Al Gore, and a host of others. We just have to admit it and move on. Discernment becomes more challenging as we move through the process since the misguided ones present us with people that often are increasingly truthful (better liars?).

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Please refrain from the superlong posts. Put a link and no more than 4 paragraphs of any story so that more information can be posted. The exceptions to this convention would be original posts.

Please break your posts into paragraphs to make them more readable. Paragraphs should be about 4 to 10 sentences long (depending upon the length of the sentence). Remember that studies by the Poynter Institute for the Media have demonstrated that most people will not read things that are perceived as too long. They will skim the first 4 paragraphs to decide if they are interested and then read or not read depending upon the length.

So, if you post a long post, most people won’t actually read it in its entirety. Your effort is wasted.

Take care,

MK

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

What Ben is reporting aligns with what Cliff H is saying. I am busy with personal things right now or I would write another in-depth think piece. While I am UNHAPPY with what is going on, I can tell you that there will be no victory for anyone in a situation that revolves around a “SECRET” PRIVATE GROUP running things.

Despite what the cabal (regardless whether they are clothed in PATRIOTIC or REBEL RAINMENT) wants you to believe, they are not going to win in the long run because the structure that they want to build lacks foundation. I have been opposed to the gold-structure in the past because THEY HAVE STOLEN THE GOLD for the most part and they would be trying to rule. However, right now, the gold is being taken back from them by those that they have stolen it from. Hopefully, that will continue.

Please pay attention to some of the things being written here. There is a great deal of truth being proliferated that must be acted upon. In particular, better life is making some very good points.

Comment by abetterlife on August 24, 2010 @ 12:53

I AM OPPOSED TO THE AMERO SCHEME, A SECRET GROUP OF EXECUTIVES AND THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION. THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT A CHANGE FROM THE MESS THAT WE HAVE NOW. They are a contituation of the stupid allegedly “free market” plantation policies that we have now.

MK

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

In keeping with the rules, I am attempting not to exceed 4 to 6 paragraphs. The thoughts below are a continuation of my thoughts on the current situation.

THE CHINESE ARE BEING THE SMARTEST ABOUT ALL OF THIS MESS. They are waiting for the current government to crumble due to a lack of finances. When that happens, this government won’t be able to pay its foot soldiers to protect them. Of course, by that time, there won’t be any appreciable benefit to government at all, because all of the services will have been cannibalized due to layoffs at the county, state and federal level.

THE CURRENT SITUATION IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. The pool of people available to pay taxes is shrinking due to rich people leaving, the middle class being destroyed and the reduction of jobs. Without people to pay monthly bills, bonds become irrelevant because their interest cannot be paid. Without interest, nobody will buy the bonds.

Printing presses for money become useless because people will require more and more silly paper to finance things as the currency itself becomes more risky to hold. Eventually, bales of dollars will be required to pay for even the simplest things. Long before that occurs, the average person will find themselves incapable of paying for things like FOOD. This means that the current crappy retail environment is going to get worse.

BARNES AND NOBLES IS GOING BANKRUPT. American clothing is going bankrupt…this is what happens when all the wealth of a country is in a few hands. Go investigate the quarterly reports of big retailers. Use those to gauge where the US is now.

MK

positivechange
positivechange

g7enn,

thanks for posting the info. I think this is the single most important issue for solving problems.

With any currency controlled by private bankers the self-interest and energy of even good men and women will be guided towards keeping this thing secret. A system where money is controlled by the public, automatically creates an environment where other issues can be solved also.

In contrast to the post by abetterlife, the living people do not own the principal nor the interest. This is funneled to the bankers and other special interest groups. The public serves as collateral for this debt as the public needs to work and pay taxes to pay the interest. This is physical. The technology is just a recording mechanism to track peoples movement online and offline.

positivechange
positivechange

MK, I don’t see the post of a betterlife the way you posted it. betterlife was talking about the people owning the principal and interest and the need for provision of physical consent, which has been provided for centuries.

I’m also not sure about the following: “However, right now, the gold is being taken back from them by those that they have stolen it from. Hopefully, that will continue.”

So the bankers who own the central banks are now taking back the gold from their friends who “borrowed” it for a while?

This is not an attack against your person or the excellent information you often provide. I just disagree.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear G7enn,

A friend of mine who is a descendant of some of the Anglo establishment came up with a really good answer to the gold issue. He wanted to create a system that permitted the monetization of materials, land, minerals, jewels, etc. This would permit anything to become a means through which things could be purchased. His idea was brilliant. Putin liked it.

Then he ended up in jail due to a very corrupt county system. I hope that he gets out soon.

The point is that the gold/no gold thing has been used as you pointed out, to control the people for hundreds of years. Unfortunately for the powers that be, much of the gold that they have been playing with–doesn’t actually belong to them. It belongs to the First Peoples that they stole it from.

THAT’S RIGHT. THEY HAVE STOLEN GOLD FROM THE RULING FAMILIES (ROYALTY) OF ASIA, THE PACIFIC ISLES, AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST, SOUTH AMERICA AND THE UNITED STATES. While I don’t know if the descendants of the Incas can be found, with DNA technology that possibility becomes more likely. The fact is that the only people with a true claim to the lands and their riches around the world are those who were in possession of that land when European raiders showed up.

Even under our laws, they are the lawful owners. As yourselves if you would rather work with those that permitted us onto their lands and proposed that we all live peaceably together or those who took those lands by force?

There have been court decisions in a number of places (like Japan) that support ownership by the First People. Should this trend continue, the world is going to be reshaped in a radical manner. Personally, I like the philosophy of the First Peoples more than the predatory exploitation of the Khazars (think Gengis Khan) and the European nobility’s conquistador mentality. Would you rather deal with those that take at the point of a sword or those that helped pilgrims survive?

By the way, The First People had “contact” generations ago. They know a lot more about it than we will learn from our government. They also know a lot more about maintaining balance in life. Finally, in their cultures, widows, orphans and the elderly were part of their society, fed and cared for as a matter of course.

It is worth consideration.

Take care,

MK

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Monday, August 23, 2010

http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2010/04/altnews4-

====>Secrecy is a quietly growing manipulation of democratic polity which protects and empowers those who use it and weakens those for whom it is invoked to protect.Secrecy hides the PRIVILEGE, INCOMPETENCE AND DECEPTION OF THOSE WHO DEPEND ON IT, and who would be disempowered without it. The very few legitimate uses of secrecy have served as the seed for unjustified covert expansion and illegitimate uses.Elite-controlled secrecy has evolved into an immensely valuable practice whose cost to the public, and whose benefits to its practitioners, are themselves concealed by secrecy.<========================

Well worth reading and pondering,

MK

foodrules
foodrules

abetterlife,
There has been a lot of bs and sunshine in the RAP/republic info. I am still confused at times between the two groups as they become more clearly separate entities. Perhaps the use of the phrase “executive committee” has become misleading. There is one for Tim Turner and there is one for RAP. Perhaps the difference needs to be clarified.

I have been listening as hard as I can to both sides and what has come to me is that Tim’s executive committee is way above his GJ and not being transparent as they move strongly forward. His GJ members are the only ones (as a group)completely liable if there is a legal/political problem. In comparison, the RAP exec committee is still on the same level as the GJ (or body politic only, now) and they are working on complete transparency. They are remaining peaceful and are moving slowly and lawfully, as well as legally. Sam Kennedy, in my opinion (everyone has one!), would fit better into the republic group, as he showed himself to be impatient with the slow and peaceful movement early on.

Again, my opinion, I feel it is important to not rush into snap judgements of people or entities. Sometimes we don’t but our words sound like we have. Words are important to use correctly.

chrisb, I’m glad you are with us. You are an important part of the group. We all have our contributions to it, according to our personal abilities. It is good to have new contributors as well. We can help each other to discern disinfo and misinfo!!

As always,
foodrules

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Some other thoughts for today:

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/andtruthfreebook/truthfree11.htm

chapter 11
the debt scam

It is impossible to understand the global conspiracy unless we appreciate the background to the world money system. This is not taught in the schools and no smart-suited economist or correspondent on the television news will tell you the truth, either. Some of them don’t know what is going on because they have been programmed to believe nonsense by the education system, while others simply don’t want you to know. =====>The foundations of the manipulation toward a world government, army, bank and currency are built on the fantastic con trick we call the banking system. Once people understand the way this works, it is easy to see how a few can control the lives of everyone else. It is worth repeating and expanding here on what I said in Chapter 3.<=====================

The banks are given the power to ‘create’ money, by which they mean ‘creating’ non-existent money known as credit. This costs them nothing, but the moment this credit is brought into theoretical existence the banks can start to charge interest on it. This is the system that controls everyone’s life. But it goes further than that. When you take out a loan, the bank ‘creates’ credit for the size of the loan, say £20,000. If only in theory, that is ‘new’ money. But you are not going to pay back only £20,000, because you have to pay interest on that loan. The interest has not been ‘created’ by the bank, but it still has to be found from somewhere. So where? From the wealth and credit already circulating in the world.

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There is a lot more worth reading on the site on this topic on the site. I highly recommend that you all read this.

Those like foodrules who counsel caution are on the right path in my opinion. Read the secrecy and banking post that I gave you and you will quickly conclude that the only reason that the Roths and the Rocks have gotten away with what they have is due to SECRECY. That being said, why would anyone want a secret EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR ANYTHING?
THIS MAKES THEM UNACCOUNTABLE.

foodrules
foodrules

wbstreck,
Thank you for your post from yesterday concerning the status on the WA RAP. That was heart-warming and I completely know that to be the truth. We are in the OR group.
~food

acerzw
acerzw

Will someone please explain what RAP is for us who don’t know, I googled it but cannot find any info it. Just trying to understand the early post which assume we all know what it is?

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Those of us who grew up in the stable, prosperous ’50s know what it is like to have a country where the roads are well-maintained, the cities are clean, the mothers are home teaching their children to read, count, share toys and have nice manners. There was less crime, more jobs and things were more pleasant for everybody.

Meanwhile in the background, those that created WWI, WWII and the Great Depression were planning their next campaign against us.

Take care,

MK
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/andtruthfreebook/truthfree11.htm

“The world financial system and policies of boom and bust are controlled by just thirteen people – the members of the International Banking Commission in Geneva, Switzerland, which was set up by David Rockefeller on behalf of the Elite in 1972. The Commission is made up of two members each from the US Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the central banks of Germany, France and Switzerland, and one member each from the Netherlands, Austria and Scandinavia. It has its own intelligence agency known as Four-I, the International Intelligence Information Institute. This banking Elite is controlled by families like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers (Rockenfelders), Bilts and Goldbergs.”

beatbox151
beatbox151

62 Million Homeowners May Be Foreclosure Proof

The first court decision came a couple of years ago in from nothing less then the Kansas Supreme Court. That was followed by a smattering of other decisions around the nation. Still, these decisions were generally seen as quirky and probably would not be confirmed — until now.

According to attorney Ellen Brown, author of “Web of Debt”, a California bankruptcy court has followed what are now being called “landmark cases in other jurisdictions” in ruling that as many as 62 million mortgages may not be foreclosed on.

The problem is that at the height of the real estate bubble, mortgages were sliced and diced into investment products — securities — that changed hands frequently. As a convenience for the mortgage industry, many of these mortgages were recorded electronically by a system called MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System).

At issue was when Citibank tried to foreclose on a property in California, the homeowner’s defense was that the actual deed was held by MERS and yet since MERS could not offer a homeowner signed documentation to a mortgage agreement, they could not prove ownership and since they couldn’t prove ownership, the Deed of Trust could not be transferred and Citibank’s note was therefore uncollectible.

The California bankruptcy court concluded:

“Since the claimant, Citibank, has not established that it is the owner of the promissory note secured by the trust deed, Citibank is unable to assert a claim for payment in this case.”

attorneys are already accepting the significance. As one put it:”This opinion… serves as a legal basis to challenge any foreclosure in California based on a MERS assignment… and should be sufficient for a borrower to not only obtain a TRO (temporary restraining order) against a Trustee’s Sale, but also a Preliminary Injunction barring any sale … based on a MERS assignment.”

While not binding in other states, this decision is consistent with other findings in Idaho and Nevada Bankruptcy Courts on this very issue. Lawyers across the country are now filing something called “quiet title” actions to prevent foreclosure.

The result could force the biggest banks into bankruptcy because having millions of homeowners get title to their homes with no further mortgage payment would decimate the asset portfolio. As pointed out in a San Francisco Chronicle article in 2007:

“The loans at issue dwarf the capital available at the largest U.S. banks combined, and investor lawsuits would raise stunning liability sufficient to cause even the largest U.S. banks to fail….”

positivechange
positivechange

ok, i got the point. i think generally people need and want leadership. so if for example the first people were to gain back control from the roths and rocks and they could lead people in a positive way, why not.

acerzw
acerzw

(Re-posted due to the continued abundance of long posts by people who think this forum is their personal blog, obscuring the chances of my question getting read.)

Will someone please explain what RAP is for us who don’t know, I googled it but cannot find any info on it. Just trying to understand the early posts which assume we all know what it is.

positivechange
positivechange

beatbox, that’s big stuff. rock and roll.

beatbox151
beatbox151
foodrules
foodrules

acerzw,
RAP is “Restore America Plan”. It is going through a change at present , but you can google that name. It’s change is only in a splintering off of one of its founders, Tim Turner. I don’t explain well so you’d do best by your own research. There should be plenty, as well as on early posts on this forum.
As always,
foodrules

acerzw
acerzw

Thanx, foodrules.

Suggestion to forum controller – why don’t you limit the size of the comment text box to prevent long posts, and ban those who split long post’s into several to circumvent it.

acerzw
acerzw

The RAP Declaration is fundamentally flawed in its basis as it uses the word ‘God’, which is probably one of the most poorly defined words in existence and has been used to justify just about every corrupt institution and war since time began. Most people have lost faith in institutions that declare themselves with reference to ‘God’. If the revolution is going to happen it will be through more sound means I suspect.

positivechange
positivechange

sound means could include:

Phase 1: Apply the court ruling on the MERS system nationwide

Phase 2: Apply law to financial derivatives and markets in general

Phase 3: Apply law to institutions generally

Then when the special interest groups ask for help, say, sure but first please hand over the keys.

positivechange
positivechange

not saying this will happen, but i do think if the system is to be changed, this kind of stuff would work.

cfree928
cfree928

Maybe what we all, the whole of humanity needs is a totally new economy based on some fresh assumptions. Here’s a close look at one of the worst assumptions of this current very broken paradigm;

1.4 million views for an old codger giving a lecture about arithmetic? What’s going on? You’ll just have to watch to see what’s so damn amazing about what he (Albert Bartlett) has to say.

I introduce this video to my students as “Perhaps the most boring video you’ll ever see, and definitely the most important.” But then again, after watching it most said that if you followed along with what the presenter (a professor emeritus of Physics at Univ of Colorado-Boulder) is saying, it’s quite easy to pay attention, because it is so damn compelling.

Entire playlist for the lecture: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list

foodrules
foodrules

Sound Means could also include an informing of Americans as to their legal rights in traveling, and what the IRS Code says about who taxpayers actually are, and other laws that we have inaccurate belief systems on. Actually, learning how to change our belief systems would help also as we overcome 200 years of false belief, ingrained in us by psychological means from all sorts of media.

We have SO much to re-learn. What an adventure. Its good to be living in these days!

And… speaking of MERS, evidently if there is a class-action suit, if one’s own grounds for a claim against MERS fits that suit, the suit will join you to it, if you want. I was researching a suit but it didn’t fit what I’ve got a claim for. But the MERS suits are piling up! Plus all the other banks’ suits! Its all fraud. They create money from our signatures then expect us to pay again, plus interest, even though the properties are way low in value due to their chicanery. We will succeed as we begin to learn the very laws that they have been side-stepping so conveniently.
~food

cfree928
cfree928

Sorry – correct link is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

hutz
hutz

OK after much thought . Tim Turner is leaving to run for president and be elected by the People.
RAP is finished .Thank God.

I wish sam k. sam.d and tim t. all the best
enjoy folks

hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz

GET READY FOLKS SOON WE WILL BE FREE!

hutz
hutz

Our Journey & The Greatest Secret on Earth : George Kavassilas : 1 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWuS_PCVkw
Our Journey & The Grand Deception : George Kavassilas : Part 1 : 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo&feature=related
[11:53:18 AM] Jayne59: Our Journey & The Greatest Secret on Earth : George Kavassilas : 1 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWuS_PCVkw
Our Journey & The Grand Deception : George Kavassilas : Part 1 : 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo&feature=related
[11:54:25 AM] Jayne59: Here is an outline of the plan, what is out in the public: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_of_Operations_Plan
[11:55:34 AM] Jayne59: [8/22/2010 11:54:42 PM] songsofpeace: here is the Saint Germain you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSX2Lc9alTg&feature=related
[8/22/2010 11:57:01 PM] Dan the Man: http://www.revelatorium.com/
[2:00:00 PM] *** Conference call, duration 2:41:30 ***

jadenter
jadenter

ChrisB 11:22, Foodrules, abetterlife, wbstrack, hutz, and mk2009 (reposted from the last comments section)

Regarding the posted replay of the RAP conference call with Dr. Dale Livingston and others on the status of “restore america”, it seemed encouraging to me that they discovered their flaw in the real status of America since the very beginning and the purpose for the US Constitution and other founding documents of this country. The British Crown and the Vatican have always controlled this government from its inception and many of us raised our right hands to serve and defend a constitution with our lives and sacred honor, to discover later that it was all based on lies and deception.

There was no access to constitutional and bill of rights protections provided in the 1787 version of what the Founders did and since RAP came onto the scene for “We the People…” The little people like you and me, are not “We the People…” That only applies to original signors and the “Congress Assembled” and the District of Columbia (or Criminals). There was never anything to actually restore, since the founding of america was not what we learned in our civics classes. What did the constitution and bill of rights create?

I went back to listen and read again the research of “The Informer” and James Montgomery (Knowledge is Freedom) which i have posted here several times. In the call referenced above, Dr. Livingston referred to a researcher in North Carolina that is re-writing the documents for the proposed new government and did not want to disclose his name. He is the very same man i have been telling you all to check out his research… “THE INFORMER” http://atgpress.com/

He has four books you can buy and read by sending him Postal Money Orders (real money) and the simplest is called “The New History of America”. I can assure you all it is quite good and a short easy read. Or you can simply read the research provided for free on that web site, its all good and worth informing yourselves. The real solution to our problems may be unfolding, finally.

If you want to hear the Informer discuss his research you can buy ($20) and listen to about 20 hours of interviews with “THE INFORMER” by Keith Hanson (Vyzygoth) at http://thinkorbeeaten.com/theknoll/. This is real and raw truth of where we are, where we came from, and suggestions on solutions that work for individuals and this country, america.

The Informer is legally a non-taxpayer and has documented it with officials of the British Crown, the Vatican, and US Treasury. His Information Master File (IMF) is totally clean of any financial obligations (IMF is kept by the Vatican/British Crown on every person on the planet and is tied to your social security number in america). He has escaped the system of “The Beast”.

Check it out and, may the force be with you all…

Jadenter

hfloyd
hfloyd

this is both informative and too funny. its worth the short read.

Width of Two Horses:

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That’s an exceedingly odd number.

http://www.secretofoz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=157:the-width-of-two-horses

Grendizer
Grendizer

Hey Positivechange!

I’ve seen this file but really what matters whether you have a gold-backed currency or not is that people and countries agree to trade with it or not. Finance and trade has to do with trust, it is that simple! And right now everybody knows who is responsible for the tragedy and the misery in the last century. Right now you have a basket of currencies that will compete with one another (i.e the Renminbi, Yen, Euro, Amero?, etc) as a replacement for the dollar.

If the Federal Reserve board is dismantled to be be replaced by a new entity with a new face that has the same occupants in disguise on board, well guess what?… the world won’t be fooled again to lend their money and finance these crooks and criminals to pursue their pipe dreams in secret, whether they have a currency backed by gold or not.

The New World Order is it appears is History now!

As long as it’s the people that controls the money supply and not a secretive group acting from behind the curtain, this is what it really boils down to. Plus I doubt once the new financial system is introduced and full disclosure is made to the American people on how the Federal Reserve board has controlled their lives and shaped their destinies if Ben Bernanke, David Rockefeller and Co. will still be around in the US to face the charges and the wrath of the American people. My guess is that they will simply vanish in a place of their choosing. The planet however is a very small place and these guys have been exposed. Unless they seek Satan for asylum and help I really can’t see anywhere on this earth where they will be safe and hide!

And don’t you think Satan has time for them either, he’s busy fighting the angels of God (can you count them? I can’t) and the prayers of the Saints and born-again Christians around the world in the spiritual realm, so he can’t leave that front to go and fight another one, that’s just too much work even for him. There’s POWER in “The Name of Jesus”, this is how you defeat and nullify the plans of Satan and his followers in your prayers!

hutz
hutz

There’s POWER in “The Name of Jesus”, this is how you defeat and nullify the plans of Satan and his followers in your prayers!

hutz
hutz

Policy Elite Acting Like The Priests of Some Ancient Cult
http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=10223

dan1uc

Thats’ funny hutz now now be nice 🙂

chrisb
chrisb

I just talked to someone who knows this Dale Livingston guy and says he is a con so she gave me example after example and this GOD loving woman is so funny cause she cusses all the time. She called Dale an SOB. So believe what you want, I think I am going back to following JIM Jones. Hell , atleast he gives you free drinks. WHo’s on first. It’s like who can be trusted anymore. I don’t know this guy from adam but clearly someone else has had persoal experiences with him and mentioned numbers of people who got in trouble following him too. Buyer beware. SOmeone reported on Ron PAul too so maybe one of these days we get the truth.

chrisb
chrisb

Jadenter, I hope you are right about these people. I don;t know different people’s experience with differnet people but it seems people know people from everywhere in this world. At this point, left is right and up is down and if the truth ever comes out about everyone, I am sure there are going to be a lot of people very shocked as they say. The problem is that we never get to eat the pie, we just get to keep looking at and my hope as many I am sure is that we get the truth on all of it. That is the discouraging part. I mentioned this RAP call to this person and this guy’s name and this lady goes off. Well, I don’t know him and I cannot vouch for him or her but the fact that the very first person I mention him to was familiar and goes off wasn’t a good sign either. Doesn’t mean she is right also but the truth has not set us free because we do not know the truth yet. That’s the biggest problem. But next week, next month, next year, next lifetime we will get it I am sure. Maybe.

kohala889
kohala889

From Bix Weir, Road to Roota Reader:

The Federal Reserve is on the run with this ruling today:

Fed Loses Bid for Review of Bailout Disclosure Ruling
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aZ1VjaDY0d04

Weir writes, “Make no mistake. This is not just a coincidence at an inopportune time. This is a planned take down with the Good Guys at the Federal Reserve ready to ‘fall on the sword” when the time is right. My “Time Line For Takeoff and Landing’ article continues right on track and as we move into September the walls of the banking cabal will start crumbling down.”

g7enn
g7enn

Satanic Priests in the Catholic Church?

Do schools kill creativity?

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

martha
martha

g7enn

Re. Ron Paul ..I am grateful for the good that he does. He speaks out against the federal reserve and against the Iraq war. Really do not pay much attention anymore to party lines. Pat Buchanan seems to have Nazi inclinations but never approved of the Iraq war and supports the working man.If these people who are more than likely approved by the NWO are speaking out on these issues…it would seem that the NWO is in trouble. I think if we had clean elections and clean primaries, Ron Paul would have been the republican nominee in ’08. Been a much better candidate…but it seemed TPTB wanted a democrat in the last go round.So all systems were go for O after it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the american people would not stand for hillary clinton.

foodrules
foodrules

Chrisb,
Good grief…is there no end to corrupt people weazling in? Lew3, could you do a truthtest on Livingston? Is that possible? Perhaps it is a statement that no organized group will be the answer, but that we each need to be self-aware, self-sufficient, and ready to back up our neighbors and family as needed. And, distribute the TB’s and CB’s!!And be ready to lock and load, if that is something you are comfortable with.

I just heard of a cottage industry. There are people who take over payments of folks who are sliding into foreclosures. The property remains in the homeowner’s name but they move out to cheaper housing while the payment maker rents their place out, furnished, for $85 a night to the military. The military, in a given area, might be there for weeks, and the govt pays for it. The payment maker makes some money and the property owner still has the house on the market, hoping to sell it and cash out. Amazing how some people are always thinking of ways to capitalize on other’s problems….So, in areas where there are military bases, homeowners could even do this to save their homes. Interesting….
~foodrules

dan1uc

Hey! Grendizer http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/01archives/Soul_Catcher_Shuttle.htm
Besides what ben and many others’ have givin all of us here if you missed the memo http://wearethenewworldorder.wordpress.com/things-of-notable-interest/people-of-interest/alex-jones/teutonic-zionism-w-jordan-maxwell/
I Think that’s two paragraphs’ 🙂

cfree928
cfree928

Repost for jtgun – and I agree this is ‘sick-sick-sick! and sorry for the length…there was no link. I turn my back on whoever spouted this crap, but i keep one of my ninja ‘back-o-head’ eyes on it.

“This just came to me and in my opinion, it is an extremely important read for EVERYONE! It makes perfect sense to me that this was planned for us based on where we find ourselves at this point in time!! This may be just some more scare tactics…??”

===========================================

Article as is it originally appeared on the Bankindex.com web site on 21 June 2002:

THE SECRET COVENANT. Full version, rated R ! (Fear-Mongering)

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it’s for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they may never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives.

We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions. When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise the eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until it’s too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

The Bankindex editorial staff thanks you for all your e-mails regarding this piece, but we do NOT know who he or she is. The piece came in through one of our forums and the Author left an unusable e-mail address. —see spineless Fear-Mongering from a parasite.

cfree928
cfree928

beatbox151 – I enjoyed almost every minute of the OZ vids. Thanks so much. We need a new Paradigm. This one is too broken to fix. It looks like the time to go into a new one is coming up fast.

This helps me deal with the up-coming as well as meditating in the dark with inspiring music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEyqT2_ricA&feature=channel

chrisb
chrisb

—–Original Message—–
From: Larry Becraft
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: PQI cases

John,

The PQI defendants filed a bunch of garbage pleadings, one example being the
attached. Then, they sat thru trial doing nothing because “Sam Kennedy”
told them the military would walk into the courtroom and stop the case. Of
course, that did not happen.

Jeff has kept me informed about the case and I attach some of the judgments
of convictions; heavy sentences! Arnie got 14 years.

Larry

chrisb
chrisb

Foodrules, I know, it makes ya crazy and maybe the fella he brought in that jadenter mentioned will be someone of quality. If that is really what we are waiting for at this point we are really behind the eightball and there is no chance of anything flying this year. You want to know how many years “We THe People have been at this stuff with little or no results. I sent a case above from Becraft about one of Kennedy’s people going to jail and many groups have been at this for a long time . Are the govt. agency’s still there that corrupt our planet and destroy our lives??? Yep so when you see all these changes amongst these groups it is similar to CATS ( been around since the 80’s a) we the people and this group and that group with everyone getting excited with this guy leaving and this guy joining. G> Edward Griffith and Viera and all these brilliant minds have been around for years and still WHAT???
I think the enforcement has tocome from where it is coming ffrom and hopefully our dreams are relized. You read the Road to Roota and hopefully what he said and hopefully what Willie said weeks ago with indictments ready is really what is happening and these other shows are just that. I think once the banking system goes down, there will be enough of the bright scholar patriots that write things in such a way as to pave the way fro freedom from this happening again. Just my take but I get my information from the dog and Paladin. LOL

chrisb
chrisb

Foodrules, no sooner do I finish writing what I wrote and then this gets emailed to me from BoB Hurt. People are going to have to figure things out for themselves but too many things being observed by people who have been around for a long time.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=79065&cmd=tc

Hear it for yourself on the above audio at talkshoe, where numerous people in the Grand Juries related to the Restore America Plan report getting summarily tossed out, lied to, kept in the dark, deceived, and hornswaggled into signing over their powers to the supreme elders and immediate juniors.

It seems that the elders, after tossing out Sam Kennedy and taking in Tim Turner, have led the RAP nationwide grand jurors down the golden brick road to oblivion, have finally revealed that they created a trust and got the grand jurors to make themselves liable (through bonds) for the acts of the elders.

One ex-juror denounced Tim Turner for lying and tolerating Florida’s leader Byron somebody for despotic behavior. Another expressed that she believes the elders sold (or perhaps securitized) the bonds and used them to get commitments in gold to make themselves rich.

I believe U.S. Homeland Security has sent the elders in as plants to take over the RAP and inveigle the grand jurors into their scheme.

One juror feels confident that if people rescind their signatures and revoke their powers of attorney then perhaps they can get their power back. Oh, brother, what a mess the Restore America Plan has become.

On the other hand, another explained that in Alaska the state law enforcers surrounded the house of an armed man who had ordered a neighbor off his property. He said that the surrounded man called the RAP militia whose members with arms surrounded the law enforcers. In the end, everyone holstered weapons and settled the matter peaceably. So, three cheers for the militia in that incident. The reporter seemed to think the elders generally do a good job and venting spleens works well to eliminate problems. He said lots of people in government support RAP’s efforts.

As for my experience with RAP, I missed Tampa’s initial organization meeting, but attended the second one, and listened, after the non-descript, uninformative meeting, to one kingpin explain how to use Tim Turner’s maritime lien scheme to steal a lot of money. Then before the next week’s meeting, the secretary/scribe sent me an email telling me not to attend any more meetings for the time being. So they tossed me before I actually got involved, Thank my Lucky Stars.

I feel profoundly diffident about the leadership of RAP, and do not trust the leaders because they keep the local grand jurors in the dark till after they’ve established some mechanism that the jurors cannot defeat or negotiate. And the seniors have office for life, or till they retire voluntary. Scary business, IMHO.

foodrules
foodrules

Yes, chris, I heard that talkshoe a few days ago. My only answer to what you showed is that the RAP this refers to is a splinter of the original. There is an original group, with 2 elders, who are proceeding slowly, legally, and cautiously. Its too confusing that they are both called RAP, although the one from this talkshoe link you shared, I refer to as the ‘republic of the….’. It is the part that splintered off and went ahead secretively. Yes, when I heard about bonding the GJ themselves, I couldn’t believe my ears; horrifying! The idea that they might have HS infiltrators makes sense. Our area’s group is squeaky clean and very legal and peaceful. We parted from the others early in the summer. It has been exhausting…

I can see you have understood their failings for quite some time and I appreciate the explanation. One thing I don’t understand is your comment about tossing out Sam K and taking in TT. Wasn’t TT in from the getgo? Aren’t there just 2 other elders?

Well, I still am optimistic that we are headed for hard times and then peace and freedom will shine again. Right? Right!!
~foodrules

todd
todd

dang !

hutz
hutz

Florida mosque bombed; FBI calls for help; national media mute
On May 10th, a middle-aged man carried a can of gasoline and a pipe bomb into the Jacksonville Islamic Center of Northeast Florida during evening prayers and detonated it. Fortunately, there were no injuries to people, though the bomb did damage property.
http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=10214

positivechange
positivechange

grendizer,

i didn’t mean the new entity would replace the fed. it’s just a slush fund for wheeling and dealing. there won’t be much reporting on these activities in the media.

meanwhile the people will be sold a new currency, which they (we) can trust in lack of alternatives. the euro is not in much better condition than the usd. the rmb is not yet ready to take on a bigger role and the jpy, well…the gold-backed solution would be a worst-case scenario, but it really doesn’t matter. Key is the debt system.

positivechange
positivechange

i think it’s the debt system imploding that will cause things to change.

once the fed can’t handle it, this entity will be disposed of.

positivechange
positivechange

there will be no new “in your face” entity replacing the fed. slush funds will be used to handle the liquidation of the old system while new venues in the area of carbon credit trading will be pursued – all under an effort to make the world a better place – and have some new taxes. this is much more lucrative and will keep people under control. no one will believe it, but they will go along in lack of alternatives. if change is to happen people need to stand up and have their voice heard.

i agree that the nwo in its past form is history. however i do not think the people running things have a very good plan. it’s more about grabbing power at those levels than thinking constructively on ways to move forward.

it may turn out to be an interesting “social experiment” on what happens when the US economy crashes and burns. can power be contained or not – by older and newer power people? except the MERS efforts i don’t really see anything standing in the way. even these efforts as a stand-alone event will crash the system.

cfree928
cfree928

We don’t need no F*#kng currency. Let’s just start 50 Republic Banks or even 4009+ local County, credit union based banks, on our own labor trust to help Everyone in our local Republics thrive.
We can even issue our own ‘script’ if necessary. This is already happening in some free, enlightened places here in u s of A.
Or let’s just help Each Our Other Selves to survive this planned chaotic fear imposition and then Now (starting this day) Totally boycott the Entire Fake NWO System.
Just get out of the Box. This is what I love about BFC…the great new paradigm stirrings coming up to the ‘True Prosperity Package’…Freedom Within.
Or maybe I’m just a dreamer?? I’m so over “divide and conquer”!

positivechange
positivechange

we should let truth conquer and divide 😉

cfree928
cfree928

AMEN!!

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

New York Water Commissioner (1956) States Reasons For Opposition To Fluoridation

from the then New York Water Commissioner Arthur C. Ford is a public response to the City Council’s proposal to fluoridate the water supply of New York City. In 1965 New York City began fluoridating the water supply, despite wide-spread concern.

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/new_york_water_commissioner_stat.htm

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

http://preventdisease.com/news/10/081010_everything_is_a_lie.shtml

from THE JEWISH RELIGION: Its Influence Today
by Elizabeth Dilling

IV.
JUDAISM — ANTI-GENTILISM
AND EXPLOITATION OF NON-JEWS

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt04.html

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

YUMMY SODIUM FLUORIDE , HMM ,HMM , GOOD 🙂

martha
martha

positivechange

There is hope that cap and trade is dead in the water.It was stopped in Copenhagen. Republicans backed by big oil are against . Huff Po just had a post about it and the comments were all against. I consider Huff Po managed by George Soros and neocon…still read it to see what they are saying.It hasn’t been that long ago that cap and trade was being seen as an environmental savior. People are seeing that their electricity bills will double and then triple with no benefit to the environment.

Read the other day that the National Grid is pushing wind farms…may have to go up on rates to build massive power line infrastructure to acamodate (sp?) them and the National Grid is owned by a company out of Great Britain. May have read it wrong. But if this is true…we should buy it and regulate utilities again. Does not seem right for a foreign country to have that much power over US.

paladin
paladin

chrisb

Don’t blame me for your enlightenment, you’ve got some damn smart dogs…

suncrystal
suncrystal

Martha and all,

Several years ago, I attended TWO seminars put on by Bob Schultz and his We the People group. That’s We the People with a CAPITAL P… Thought they were on OUR side. If I knew then what I know now.

They took down our names and other info (I forget what, address? phone #?); this was a requirement for attending – I do remember objecting…

By surrounding himself with GOOD people, like Devvy Kidd and Larry Becraft (they ARE good, right?), he made believers out of all of us there.

But here’s the little clincher. There were some avid John Birch Society people there as well, all excited about Bob Schultz and what he was doing.

Just thought you might like to know, especially if any of you are on his mailing list and donating money….

suncrystal
suncrystal

Dear fix amd all,

If you want the GOOD fluoride, *CALCIUM* fluoride, in homeopathic form, you can buy it here and take it every day:

http://www.mothernature.com/p/Hylands-Calc-Tissue-Salts-cell-Salts-Fluor-6-x-1000-tab/105335.html

The little white tablets dissolve instantly under the tongue, going directly into your bloodstream and on to where they’re needed, circumventing the stomach.

Its purpose is to REBUILD the enamel on your teeth and also to strengthen the outer layer of your bones. It also helps control cataracts, cavities, osteoporosis, varicose veins, and cornea problems.

Calcium fluoride is just ONE of the TWELVE *BASIC* cell salts (minerals) our bodies need every single day, to regenerate our cells. If you’re in good health, they should keep you young forever, but of course we have all the bastardized food, water, and air to deal with. Without those problems, I believe you could call them the real Fountain of Youth.

If you guys want more info on the remainder of the 12, I can do a short summary of the functions of each, one per Comment, and a link to the best price I’ve found for each one.

1000 tablets for less than 12 bucks – should last you almost 3 months (4 tablets, 3 times a day).

🙂

positivechange
positivechange

martha

thanks for the information. i didn’t know that about huff po.

there is an alternative called cap & share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq78ZsmmnnY

not sure big oil would enjoy this.

suncrystal
suncrystal

inre the cell salts, the number ONE (“#1”) on the bottle of Calcium Fluoride in the pic just means that Calcium Fluoride is first, alphabetically.

chrisb
chrisb

Foodrules, the article I posted was from Bob Hurt. He wrote it not me. Suncrystal mentions We THE People and tis is just another example of who is really who. I did not get iinvolved with RAP because I have seen too many people who have gone to jail simply following the mext latest and greatest. Yes Devvy Kidd and Becraft both split from WTP and they did not publicize it but just simply said they disagree with their methods. SO as long as we don’t understand who is good and who is bad, I wait back and see. But that article I posted regarding Kennedy etc was from Bob Hurt. As long as we are on the confusion subject. here’s another one to keep you spinning.

ROAD TO ROOTA

The most controversial article I’ve written to date has to be an article I wrote for Bill Murphy of GATA called “Maestro Greenspan’s Magnum Opus” in which I argued that Alan Greenspan was actually a Good Guy fighting to take down the banking cabal and return the United States to the Gold Standard. I have edited it a bit since and it can be found here:

Greenspan’s Golden Secrets
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/101.cfm

I remember first asking Bill to publish it on LeMetropoleCafe.com and he wouldn’t do it. He didn’t believe me and he knew that everyone at the Cafe wouldn’t believe it either. After I pestered him enough he finally gave in and posted it. Let me tell you it was like shaking the hornet’s nest! There’s nothing more scary than an angry Gold Bug! I was getting my share of hate mail screaming “How can you think the arch nemesis of us Gold Bugs is secretly our Hero?” I’m sure many of you new subscribers are still in the Anti-Greenspan camp as well.

But after my friends at the Cafe got over the initial shock of my hailing Greenspan as the “Hero of the World” they started digging deeper into my theory and a majority of them have come out the other end saying “Oh, my god…I actually think he’s RIGHT!”

That was over two years ago and EVERYTHING that has transpired since has reinforced the concept that Alan Greenspan and a small group of Patriots are about to take down the banking cabal that have cast a long shadow of darkness over our world.

If you are still a non-believer I ask you to read through the archives of the Road to Roota Letters and judge for yourself based on the evidence I present. Once you do this you will be prepared for what is about to happen.

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/department36.cfm

We are on the cusp of rediscovering what America was meant to be.

A nation of free and independent people.

I can’t wait!

Bix

beatbox151
beatbox151

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67M1TT20100823

550 Million? C’mon wth is this?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/meat.recall/index.html

Zemco Industries in Buffalo, New York, has recalled approximately 380,000 pounds of deli meat that may be contaminated with bacteria that can cause a potentially fatal disease, the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced Monday.

The products were distributed to Wal-Marts nationwide, according to the USDA’s website.

Ok folks…2 nationwide food recalls that prompts new legislation for tighter controls on the FDA. No doubt that the new food legislation put more control into the hands of the FDA and other quasi-governmental agency.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41391.html

The Senate’s yearlong failure to pass a food safety overhaul has hampered the ability of Obama administration to quickly recall the 600 million eggs connected to a salmonella outbreak that has sickened nearly 2,000 people, experts and lawmakers say.

Yup! There it is……..Wow, I am getting good!

wbstreck
wbstreck

Thanks beatbox151 for the heads up. We appreciate your dilligence! You may have saved a few folks lives, for sure!

positivechange
positivechange

beatbox

yeah, you can soon get a job working for the cabal 😉

hutz
hutz

RAP is dead .May it rest in peace .

sierra
sierra

Columbia has just sworn in a new president… things are looking up!

Unprecedented Presidential Oath…..
…more…
As it turns out, yesterday morning, before the ceremony that would inaugurate his Presidency in front of Congress, Colombian leaders and foreign dignitaries, the new Colombian President decided to do something that had never been done in modern history. The President chose to do a symbolic swearing-in which he called a spiritual oath of office.
…more…
Yet yesterday, on what could be described as one of the most important days of his life. The newly elected President chose to reach out to the “Elder Brothers” and receive their blessings. Dressed entirely in white linen and barefoot, and as part of the ceremony, Santos received a wooden staff, a necklace of polished stones and two string bracelets, one for each wrist.

In the ritual, which became a symbolic oath of office, Santos received from the indigenous leaders the spiritual appointment to have a good government and the staff as a symbol of authority. He also received four sacred stones representing the Earth, Nature, Water and Government. Then threads of cotton were placed around each of his hands for protection.
…more…

*************************************************

Sierra

hutz
hutz

http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=10251
City receives citation for not fluoridating water
August 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM

The City of Watsonville has been cited by the California Department of Public Health for failure to comply with an order by the state to fluoridate the water supply.

beatbox151
beatbox151

It’s getting old and predictable really.

Cause/Effect
Crisis/Solution
Catastrophe/Legislation
More Problems/More Laws

If one more big bill is passed that further consolidates power for the government I am going to toss my breakfast. Really!

Get rid of the fuggin big money corporate money shower on our elected officials, then maybe I could trust them enough to do that. Otherwise it just looks like more control goes to the corporations.

wbstreck
wbstreck

To All The FDA needs to be overhauled in the right direction. They are letting a lot of things slide including the incidents above and flourination and chlorination of water , really bad pesticides, especially on California Strawberries, ect.
No positive change , we don’t want to build a bureaucratic monster,we jus want this governemnt agency ot act more in the interest of protecting people and less for the benefite of big business lobbying efforts. They work fo us, we the People.
tHE BushES and Cheney deregulated the oil industry safeguards for their big oil cabal buddies and the results were the failure of the Horizon Oil Rig in the Gulf, plus no EPA safeguards OR (AN ENVIORMENTAL IMPACT STUDY, MOST GREVIOUS), and the preclusion of a sonic blowout preventer switch, which is a mandatory requirement of all of the developed world’s drilling protcol.
They built the rig right on the water with very scant blueprints.Never done before, and this was the deepest underwater drill in history. We do need intelligent oversight governance ; it’s not all meaningless bureauacracy.

abetterlife
abetterlife

Yes!! That’s what I’m Talkin about Cfree!! I am SOOOOOOO With you!!
Please consider;

At the Root core of All this BS are TRUSTS. We have given “life” to these TRUSTS unknowingly in Eveything (and I mean EVERYTHING) we do in this Fiat money illusion. We were never taught about TRUSTS and TRUST Law, yet they have RULED/Governed our Lives from Day 1! We are the only Living Real Grantors/Beneficiaries of these Privately held Trusts,(Off-shore= on Land) however since we have been purposely kept ignorant of this simple Fact, these TRUSTS have been construed into the Public, (as vessels under Maritime/Military Rule=International Jurisdiction)
This is a very Long story and I am not the one with enough expertise/knowledge to be teaching it. However we must learn for ourselves Just the simple basics of Trusts and Trust Law to KNOW how we have been used/construed all along and assuming all of the liability for their Evil doings and benefit, simply because we did not know “Who we Are” and what we’ve been led to believe “WE ARE” in relationship to these Trusts.
Now this Dr. Livingston is claiming that “We the Living People” must give our “Life/Soul” to the Constitution to animate (Breathe Life as Grantors)to this TRUST and bring it forward as a living Thing in the Public.

This man is knowledgable that the Constitution is a Trust- he confessed/confirmed this at the end of call when asked the question from a caller. Now if his intentions are for the good of the People(Real Beneficiaries)- He would instruct them on 1. To sign as Grantors,Beneficiaries (restricted signatures-NOT to be mis-CONSTRUED or assigned) However if his intentions are not good, the People will be simply instructed (once again)to sign as usual (Which will leave the signature open-ended to be construed to another parties benefit- and to the absolute detriment of the signer, the Real Party of interest!)

This is the One common trait I have observed with all of these alleged “Leaders” in these Freedom movements: They ALL Know and Understand that at the root cause of all of the man-made, conditional contracts are Trusts that are ALL Linked to a “MASTER TRUST” and yet they do everything in their power to avoid, evade and downplay the significance of this “Simple” basic Fact. Which only proves to me “Who’s” side they are really on here.

Their “GOD” TRUST (Government Ordained Debt=SIN aka SSN was originally named Social INSURANCE Number) IS NOT my God/Creator, nor will I Consent or give away any more of my “unrestricted” Life energy to it.

I apologize for my long rant, but I do belive we are at a critical tipping point and we MUST learn HOW to Govern ourselves and Take Full responsibity for All that we Give our consent to with Full Knowledge and awareness of what we are doing and the consequences thereof.

abetterlife
abetterlife

Just for clarification I was responding to Cfree:
Comment by cfree928 on August 24, 2010 @ 5:37 pm
🙂

wbstreck
wbstreck

suncrystal and ALL

The common honeybee populations are depeleting very fast. The say it is due to the microwave transmissions from cellphone towers and even from scattered higher density cellphone usage areas.
Could the CB,s And TB’s help delimit same.
The cellphone microwaves scramble the honeybees homing sensors. We need the cross-polination for our crops and flowers ?

positivechange
positivechange

betterlife

“This is a very Long story and I am not the one with enough expertise/knowledge to be teaching it.”

Please do! Good post in my opinion.

foodrules
foodrules

chrisb,
I read about Greenspan’s Golden Secrets a while back. I even read his book, The Age of Turbulence. My hubby growled at me every time he saw me reading it, but I wanted to get a feel for this “economist/fed”. Like so many in fairly high places, I think they get brainwashed. I’m not completely sure if he is evil. So, yes, I am confused, but moving forward in spite of it. My benchmark for sanity is always David Wilcock.

Today I am reading our city’s ordinances and getting some resin and catalyst for TB’s and CB’S. (That would be great if they helped on flouridated water. I feel for community members drinking that poison and unable to do anything else)Just my own little world…oh, and making pickles to can. Fermented vegies are very healthful, especially if done with no chemical preservatives. They help the good bacteria in our gut and that is where our health originates, our gut.
~foodrules

positivechange
positivechange

betterlife

Could you kindly provide some links for more information on the trust issue. I googled it but didn’t really get anything.

Thanks!

positivechange
positivechange

i found this:

http://thelastoutpost.com/our-legacy/denounced.html

When the 14th Amendment was invoked in 1868 it was still valid under the laws of Real property. (whether or not it was legally ratified or not) it established a trust of a different nature. (no one can defeat it because the subject has never been brought up). It was still a Freehold but with the ability to be changed and lessened under the laws of Real Property. This is because it defines the heirs as those subject to the jurisdiction of the congress. Now you may say, how can this be. Go back to the fact that Rights cannot devolve to a body politic by way of corporation, but the freehold in the 14th Amendment can be lessened piece by piece because its workings are subject to the Jurisdiction of the congress. After time, it no longer is a Freehold but an estate of Tenancy. All of America has been reduced to this Tenancy and no one can understand what has happened to the Rights they were told they had….

…..Under Constitutional Law a court — ANY court, MUST look toward the Trust first and make determinations from that point, not statutory law.

http://privateattorneygeneral.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-legacy-the-united-states

chrisb
chrisb

Foodrules, well the one thing for sure is that alot of people are going to be very surprised about alot of things. You are reading things which is more than most. Whether we are right or wrong , we are reaching out for knowledge. I learned quite a while back I fit into the category of ” I know I don’t know”. I pass on the information, I have my own thoughts but it is not up to me to convince the world.It is up to me to try and disimminate the information but I cannot convince someone of something if their blinders are on. And, it doesn’t mean everything I pass on is the truth either but as long as we keep opening up people’s eyes, they become better thinkers.

joann
joann

I understand the honeybee population is being depleted from genetically modified (GM) crops. If they have inserted Monsanto’s Roundup in the plant DNA, the plant is producing it’s own Roundup.

A certain pesticide was approved several years back with the contingency that the package label warn about bee larvae damage. This was pulled from the market a few months ago. This may also be a culprit.

As someone else has already pointed out on this site, when we consume GM foods, the plant generated Roundup kills the good flora in our digestive tracks.

Buy organic.

foodrules
foodrules

And buy non-GMO produce. And plant open-pollinated seeds. The Earth will appreciate it! Thank you Joanne, for your post! We have control of our food supply, by choosing what we eat. That is according to Michael Pollan, whom I respect.
~foodrules

foodrules
foodrules

Oh, and seek out grass-fed beef and pastured pork and truly free-ranging fowl, if you can. Otherwise you are eating meat from animals fed low-quality feed, feed incompatible with their true digestive make-up, and chemicals of unknown origin, …plus living with huge emotional/hormonal stress!
~foodrules

abetterlife
abetterlife

My own references have been from studying:
Gilberts Law Summaries-Trusts (and other publications on Trusts)
Black’s Law Dictionary
Webster’s Dictionary 1828
Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of “The BIBLE” (which IMHO “The BIBLE” has been perverted (through words and mis-use of their true definitions/intent) by Man and converted into a “Conditional TRUST” at the Very Dark core of the Main TRUST aka Vatican TRUST) I could be wrong-but I have seen no evidence to the contrary. It is not my intention to offend anyone’s beliefs or interpretations of “The BIBLE” as they have been taught or led to believe, nor is it any of my business what they choose to believe.

Allow your own inner-spirit be your guide- and You will see what has been hidden in plain sight all along.
They have done a really great Job of trying to keep us distracted with all of their “rules, statutes, codes and regulations, COMMANDMENTS” as the smoke & mirror illusion masking and hiding the True Core.
Once again only my opinion based on personal guidance, experiences in seeking the Truth and cutting through all the BS (which was very time consuming and confusing, but was in Fact what truly helped me understand that if it wasn’t simple, it WAS a distraction to get me off course)

foodrules
foodrules

chrisb, 3:33 a.m., well said. I agree completely. I don’t know either, but we are searching for the truth and are bound to get closer… anyway.
~foodrules

beatbox151
beatbox151

The main stream media companies are losing it!!

This is getting sick.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/19/jon-stewart-mosque_n_688546.html

The Video Clip

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap

It seems that the Fox network is behind the whole Mosque situation…..

CBS ABC and their ilk are fairing no better.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening_news_ratings/cbs_evening_news_ties_alltime_low_171613.asp

This bad news is good news. The lies are so obvious now!

patriotkate
patriotkate

Martha,

Fallacy in your comments. You commented that the “Republicans backed by big oil” is not correct. Other than Former President Bush’s family ties to oil, otherwise that is not the case. Did you know that President Obama was the largest recipient of funding from oil companies? Along with lots of other Democrats?

The other fallacy frequently thrown around is that the Republicans are also the primary beneficiaries of Wall Street. Again, wrong. Democrats have received far greater portions of Wall Street funding.

The reality is that probably better than 95% of our congressional representatives are working for their donors and not us.

What we HAVE to STOP doing is participating in the Right/Left duality paradigm that has kept us divided. We have to look at the INDIVIDUALS we want to represent us and what their values are. The letter behind their name is totally irrelevant.

The only thing that matters to me is representatives who live and breathe our Constitution. If they do that, they will do the right thing, no matter what letter is attached to their name.

Huff Po is such an outrageously liberal mouthpiece funded by George Soros and you should be very, very cautious about following their thinking as they hate America.

hfloyd
hfloyd

comment by wbstreck on August 25, 2010 @ 2:12 am

Yes- 80% of our food crops need pollination in order to produce.
The Honeybee issue is actually more complex as there are QUITE a number of problems assailing the honeybee population right now. Most beekeepers are aware that there are NO wild honeybees anymore in the areas where there was once a huge genetic treasure of wild bees. These bee colonies have collapsed mostly due to pesticide usage- particularly the neo-nicotinoids that have been more recently introduced. This use encompasses the pesticides used on crops as well as the pesticides used to spray municipalities for mosquitos ( here after known as ‘skeeters)
in addition “commercial” beekeepers do not care for the health of the bees they raise, and treat them much as the factory-farmed cattle and hogs are treated. Toxic food, pumped full of antibiotics etc and completely stressed out-Their immune systems are nearly non-existent. Oh- and lets not forget the genetic manipulation that has occured since the early 40’s(not sure about date- maybe earlier) to produce a “bigger” bee that would (in theory) make more honey. This little maneuver made it much easier for the tracheal mites and other introduced pests to decimate colonies due to disease because of longer incubation and larger bee cell size.It gives the pests a longer protected incubation time with the bee larvae.
Some have blamed cell phone towers microwave etc for the bee colony collapse and exodus.I think that SOME of that is true as they are very sensitive creatures to their environment; but it is KNOWN that in areas where bees are raised Organically /Naturally ( the term used for bees raised with no antibiotics,initially fed appropriate diet, and regressed to the correct smaller cell size) do NOT have colony collapse/disease issues and don’t leave the area.
I think I’ve run over the alloted 4 paragraphs here- sorry.
In addition- for those of you who are trying to use honey as a health resource- get in touch with you local organic/natural beekeper and get “raw” ( unprocessed) honey.It will contain the natural enzymes and pollens of your local area to help with any allergy issues. Do not trust honey coming from China as it is known to be tainted with pesticides.(and other stuff) Yes I’m a beekeeper.

martha
martha

patriotkate

sorry…Obama is backed by the same people that back republicans. The WH releases statements putting down the domocratic base…which is the real democratic party. The DLC is clinton. The bushes hijacked the republican party and the clintons hijacked the democratic party. On the house floor I have only seen republicans opposed to cap and trade.

I do not want to offend anyone …just my thoughts.

patriotkate
patriotkate

HFloyd,
You are probably right about what’s happened to the bee population and many people also believe Chemtrails have damaged them as well.

There are many anecdotal stories of Beekeepers putting Orgon-ite under the hives and significant improvements in the yield.

At least worth a try.

PK

martha
martha

sierra

Wonderful news re. the new Columbian President! Makes me happy.

abetterlife
abetterlife

Comment by chrisb on August 25, 2010 @ 3:33 am

In Like Mind & Spirit. 🙂

martha
martha

positivechange

Re. HuffPo..think I read that they took 250,000 from George Soros. Then they started doing some heavy handed moderating. Right wing hate comments would be allowed…nothing about 9/11 could be printed in a comment…nothing negative about Israel.I used to comment on that site. Wrote 9/11 was an inside job, knowing what would happen. Sure enough , I was banned. Later banned from FireDogLake for writing fascist one too many times.Have actually been banned from about all of them.It worked out fine for me as I have over the years seen they all seem to have an agenda and don’t even bother with reading them anymore. Daily Kos would not allow comments on election fraud. None of them but Bradblog even sees it as a problem. To me, it is the reason that we live in a fascist country.

mbridges
mbridges

Joann, 3:34 am

Your comment regarding consumption of Roundup Ready GMO crops having deleterious effects upon our intestinal flora is most interesting. I suspect the mechanism of this effect may be a little different than described. Roundup Ready GMO plants have been programmed with genes to make them Roundup herbicide-resistant. So, farmers don’t have to worry so much about killing their crops with too much Roundup weed killer. So, they freely use the herbicide, some of which likely remains on the plant foods that we eat. Since the GMO plant does not itself make glyphosate (the active ingredient in Roundup herbicide), it may be the excess Roundup herbicide sprayed on the crops, rather than the genetic change in the GMO plant that is causing the problem. On the other hand, we don’t know that it is the glyphosate that is directly damaging our intestinal flora. There may be something produced by the GMO plant itself than causes the damage when we eat it.

For this reason, we should insist on the precautionary principle of proof of safety before unleashing new technologies on the public. And since absolute safety is hard to prove, we should have mandatory labeling so that at the very least, we can elect to choose whether or not we wish to take this risk.

abetterlife
abetterlife

Short video clip: Ex-Patriot Denounces US Citizenship

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=10367

patriotkate
patriotkate

I would hope that smart politicians would oppose the Cap & Trade, because it is nothing more than Redistribution of wealth and a fancy carbon trading scheme that will take money out of our pockets and put it right in the same big money interests. The Chicago Climate Exchange is made of up of the same crooks and thieves that are stealing everything else from us – Goldman Sachs, Gore, Obama and all the other creeps.

I have studied the legislation extensively and it is not designed to help the environment, or to explore COST EFFECTIVE technologies that could get us off oil and out of the energy mess. It’s another piece of CONTROL legislation. As an example, it includes Federally mandated and controlled requirements for an Audit of any home on the market and before someone could sell it, it could potentially require thousands of dollars in retrofits in order to bring it current according to the God Government. It also includes a Federal takeover from local jurisdictions of all construction and building code requirements, just to name a couple of things. Backyard BBQ with charcoal? Forget it, it will be outlawed. It also includes outlawing Wood Stoves and mandates how they have to be destroyed! It is HORRIBLE legislation that will mean the loss of millions more American jobs, outrageous energy costs and intrusion into our lives. They will be installing Smart Grid technology which will ultimately allow them to shut off your power if they deem you use too much.

Martha, you are absolutely right. The radical left hijacked the Democrat party and the Neocon right hijacked the Republican Party and that leaves very few in between who actually want what’s best for us.

However, by far the biggest problem is the fact that both of these factions are working together for total Tyranny. I remember reading an article about actor Robert Redford who described his experience with these politicians and how shocked he was to find out that, behind closed doors, they are all good friends who laugh at how stupid “the little people” are but go onto the House Floor and you’d think they were mortal enemies. Redford explained that’s why he never went into politics although at one time he was interested.

I repeat that we need to drop the political designations and choose individuals. Right now, the “progressives” (read about Woodrow Wilson – what a slimy, evil man) and you’ll see he was our first President to opening disregard the Constitution. There are Progressives in both parties and little to distinguish them as they both want Control.

PK

cfree928
cfree928

Here’s a great article on the FDA’s Egg Scare – now Meat Scare, which addresses, IMHO what BFCers are all about.

“Remember that politician, that central banker, or that useless public sector parasite you love to hate?
Every time WE focus on their crimes – WE are acknowledging they have some kind of power.
That’s where they get us. Love them or hate them – they are still controlling our focus, and getting the attention that empowers them further…What I can personally do is to:
“Change my way of thinking – and make myself a different set of rules. I will put my good foot forward, and stop being influenced by fools.”

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=181485

http://tinyurl.com/37qzy2d

positivechange
positivechange

martha, hope you at least had some good laughs.

foodrules
foodrules

Ahhh, at present we Americans are working toward “free energy” in a box to run our homes, so it might be interesting to see the results of their big push for Smart Grid Technology. I am perfectly willing to give up my woodstove when I can do something better. Free energy is here, just waiting for us to start accepting it and developing it en masse. Just like CB’s and z-p-e wands.
~foodrules

positivechange
positivechange

betterlife, thanks for sharing. i think the inner-spirit as a guide is good advice.

hutz
hutz

Subject: [Lawmen: 3772] Restore America Plan imploding from above because of Homeland Security plants?

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=79065&cmd=tc

Hear it for yourself on the above audio at talkshoe, where numerous people in the Grand Juries related to the Restore America Plan report getting summarily tossed out, lied to, kept in the dark, deceived, and hornswaggled into signing over their powers to the supreme elders and immediate juniors.

It seems that the elders, after tossing out Sam Kennedy and taking in Tim Turner, have led the RAP nationwide grand jurors down the golden brick road to oblivion, have finally revealed that they created a trust and got the grand jurors to make themselves liable (through bonds) for the acts of the elders.

One ex-juror denounced Tim Turner for lying and tolerating Florida’s leader Byron somebody for despotic behavior. Another expressed that she believes the elders sold (or perhaps securitized) the bonds and used them to get commitments in gold to make themselves rich.

I believe U.S. Homeland Security has sent the elders in as plants to take over the RAP and inveigle the grand jurors into their scheme.

One juror feels confident that if people rescind their signatures and revoke their powers of attorney then perhaps they can get their power back. Oh, brother, what a mess the Restore America Plan has become.

On the other hand, another explained that in Alaska the state law enforcers surrounded the house of an armed man who had ordered a neighbor off his property. He said that the surrounded man called the RAP militia whose members with arms surrounded the law enforcers. In the end, everyone holstered weapons and settled the matter peaceably. So, three cheers for the militia in that incident. The reporter seemed to think the elders generally do a good job and venting spleens works well to eliminate problems. He said lots of people in government support RAP’s efforts.

As for my experience with RAP, I missed Tampa’s initial organization meeting, but attended the second one, and listened, after the non-descript, uninformative meeting, to one kingpin explain how to use Tim Turner’s maritime lien scheme to steal a lot of money. Then before the next week’s meeting, the secretary/scribe sent me an email telling me not to attend any more meetings for the time being. So they tossed me before I actually got involved, Thank my Lucky Stars.

I feel profoundly diffident about the leadership of RAP, and do not trust the leaders because they keep the local grand jurors in the dark till after they’ve established some mechanism that the jurors cannot defeat or negotiate. And the seniors have office for life, or till they retire voluntary. Scary business, IMHO.

hutz
hutz

Restore America Plan – Unofficial Update 8/23/10
Rumormill News

http://www.panamalaw.org/restore_america_plan_update_08-23-10.html
Restore America Plan (RAP) Update 08/23/10 – Changes Big Time, Have Faith!
Executive Summary – Tim Turner the Interim president of the Republic of the united States has resigned from what we know. It appears that Regan Reedy and Tom Schulz have also resigned but for different reasons. The de jure grand juries have been told to go dormant and no longer function. There is a new plan being worked with a better lawful constitutional format in that RAP was actually defective legally although not really known to the RAP Guardian elders at the time. We will go through some of the points below.
The new structure will be bottom up managed and led. Those at the top will not be dictating. There will be no more secrets. It looks like there is military support transferring over. The military is in a bad way now with the unqualified muslim Kenyan president leading them to their deaths in wars for the bankers and industrialists.
The Defect – The original constitution was never really ratified correctly. Thus, one cannot have a de jure constitutional government. Oh, what a web they wove! That is why the freemason, Benjamin Franklin, said, “You have a constitutional government, if you can keep it.” Remember that the founding fathers were by and large members of secret societies, Masons. The secret society people have been tormenting the people of the country for centuries. Almost every president was a member of one of these secret societies. These secret society members are in numerous secret societies; the names of these societies are not important and many of the political leaders are members of several of these secret societies. This was a serious constitutional defect.
Members of secret societies have an allegiance to the society, and the members of that society, that supersedes any allegiance, or oath, taken to any other entity. Members of secret societies should not be allowed to hold public offices, or serve as jury members, due to these blood oaths they take that supersede any other allegiances. They are not trustworthy. This is where the problem was at onset, and is still there today. The people were led to believe that there is a Constitution in place when it was never really ratified; thus, just a piece of paper as George Bush said, since it is not ratified correctly by the Congress back then. Rather than try to explain this to you in great detail I will give you the link to hear Dr. Livingston discuss this on a talkshoe call:
http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/37139
RAP was told about the defect, but they did not all really grasp the fullness of it. RAP was told by a knowledgeable person in Australia that all they were doing was funding the de facto government. The legal basis of what they were doing was faulty. The de facto government would have had to take a few steps back, but was worth it to them to get funded for another run at trying to take over the world and bring doom and gloom on the world. Maybe a few years down the road, they would have eroded things back to the terrorist de facto government. The de facto government really has no lawful standing, but RAP did not either. The de facto government has no real power except de facto power.
Was RAP being used by the de facto Government? – This is possibly true. You should listen to the recording done by Regan, link follows:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/79606322c46d96c9/
Some interesting points Regan makes was that, he and Turner, were involved with getting funding from foreign sources. The sources were private parties, not official government sources. In some countries, the two are the same thing. Tim chose to say governments; Regan has no idea why since he negotiated with these sources for some six weeks. Tim said these sources wanted to see an interim government in place before funding. Regan said – in six weeks of negotiations he heard nothing of this? So, it seems Tim created this for some reason? Moving along, the theory is that they would use RAP to obtain funding for the de facto government. The only way to fix the de facto government is with an outside injection of many trillions of dollars, no other way. So along comes RAP. They create a faulty structure and then get funding. Remember, Tim was going to continue with the IRS, Homeland Security, Dept. of Education, etc. OK! Perhaps for transition sake, but now it appears he was trying to keep the de facto government around to some extent. HE talked on a continuing income tax and a transition of some eight years.
We ran an article about the illegality of the US Marshal Service since they usurp power from the States by giving their marshals the power of the sheriff in any county they happen to set foot in. Then Turner said something about incorporating the US Marshals Service into the de jure office. We tried to keep giving RAP the benefit of the doubt, because the alternative with Obama is really life-threatening for much of the world. We really bent over backwards to support RAP but enough is enough. We heard some of the Grand Juries were trying to indict Turner, and he broke up the Grand Juries. Then the Grand Jury members left, perhaps 30% to 40% of them, and started to organize on their own. I got reports of Turner promoting a government healthcare plan and was interested in a war on drugs. What, not legalizing drugs? We kept quiet hoping the Military would throw the bums out of office, and then there would be elections in six months and things could get better. We got a copy of a leaked Security Council document talking of lifetime appointments. Turner denied this was a real document; others offer differing positions. Not sure what to think, but looks more and more like the de facto government was trying to raise funding this way, or, at least, perverted Turner and were using him.
Maybe Turner was compromising too much to see RAP complete the job; I do not know for sure but suspect the dark side to be the case now. Perhaps, they grabbed onto RAP, which started innocently enough and perverted it. How? Well, they would need an agent loyal to them who would quash anyone who showed any ability to think for themselves, and not follow their man blindly. First, we saw Sam Kennedy go and he took one-third of the Grand Jurors with him. Then, State Coordinators, Grand Jurors, and others left. We heard of secret Executive Committees and knew not who was on them or where these people came from. Now, it has completely fallen apart as far as we can tell. I would be rather confident that the Military is not with any remnants of RAP at this point. The secrecy was the problem, which we said many times.
What About the Military – Well, the Military was involved. Regan says they were protected by the military, so there was military support. Regan was one of the Four Guardian Elders, by the way. Now, Regan goes on to say that the Military did not want RAP done the way it was done. They wanted State Militias to be formed. Well, there are about 13 States with State Militias, but they are barely populated, have little equipment, little training, etc., and they report to the de facto Governor of the State. These de facto Governors see fit to deploy the “other” State Militias (National Guard) overseas illegally. They are not talking about the National Guard here; they mean real State Militias reporting to a de jure Governor voted into office by the soon-to-come State Assemblies. We heard some about State Militias in the news some months ago, as RAP was just getting noticed by the people:
14 United State Governors : Reestablish State Militia Defense Forces
To Be Ready Against Federal Forces!
This was an atypical article explaining to us about the State Militias. There was a rumor that Obama was threatening to arrest any Governor using their State Militia powers.
14 GOVERNORS THREATENED WITH ARREST BY OBAMA?
So, they are scared of We The People.
The New Plan – The new plan really has no name yet. It is not RAP or Republic of united States. It is going to be with power coming from the bottom up. RAP was top-down dictatorial. We though the Military was imposing this on them. Not so. The new plan will have no secrecy. Gosh, we were screaming all along about the evils of secrecy that sadly proved true. Had we had full disclosure, most would have either forced RAP to change, or left it. Secrecy is evil, and never lend any support to any movement that is running dark with secrecy; in fact, run the other way. Tell them, “OK! Fine! When you have restored the Republic, let us know; until then, keep your secrets to yourself, we have no interest in you or your movement.
The idea is to form State Assemblies. Anyone in the nation that is a Sovereign can join the State Assembly for their State. The State Assemblies will then ratify the Constitution correctly in a de jure manner. The Sssemblies can be, and are expected to be, way the heck bigger than 27 people. Then, the State Assemblies will elect a de jure lawful Governor. Then the Governor will take control over the State Militia. People will apparently be recruited into the Militia. I expect the already-in-place Militias around the country will de jure, merge themselves into these State Militias, plus many others of a like mind and will to stand up for freedom, will join the Militias. The Military proper will then insert themselves under the State Militias; this means arms, equipment, training, communications, intel, etc. The State Militias will execute orders from the de jure Governors who the State Assemblies elected. Then Military will then operate under the State Militias to protect the country from enemies, within and without. This is how the Military originally wanted it to go with RAP under State Militias. Turner and RAP thought this would scare the de facto government, so they refrained from associating with the Militias. They also refrained from associating with any other groups, not good. So this should still have Military support plus Militia support. It will be massive in size compared to RAP.
Treason, Sedition, etc – It appears that Turner never recovered any assets of the bandits impersonating government. They are still running with trillions. If you want a quick look at where they probably have a lot of their money, look at Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, being in the G-20, screaming for information-sharing for tax reasons through the OECD for other countries; Saudi Arabia itself chose to not allow any information-sharing regarding their bank accounts. Hmmm. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where their money is. See, they are stupid. The Queen of England bank accounts are, of course, another place to look, but slim chance one will ever get into those records. If they use her, then she controls their money; not all that likely, but entirely possible. Third choice is the Vatican Bank. I think this can be gotten into a lot easier than the Bank of England. As we said: the war with Iran is really to protect Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other dictatorships from the war machine Iran has built. Iran can only provoke Israel into destroying her on many levels, and thus presents no strategic threat.
OK! So now we are being told that ONLY the State Militia can conduct trials for sedition and treason (that took place inside the country, I assume). This comes from the Military. Thus, the Military proper, wanted the State Militias there, to place themselves under. Turner wanted peace, love and never spoke about treason and sedition trials. Treason and sedition trials are an important ingredient to guard against others doing the same thing if it stays in the history books. Also, it provides a legal remedy to recover ill-gotten money. Imagine, if the kids learned about people hanged for putting the de facto government in place, instead of chopping down some stupid cherry tree. I was hoping Turner was avoiding prosecutions as a way of making it easy for the culprits to give up and surrender their ill-gotten gains. It was apparently just a ploy to keep these guys around to play again another day down the road. It appears that the Military is interested in trials. Look at 9/11, especially, the false flag attack on the Pentagon. What about an unqualified Commander in Chief from Kenya who is a Muslim with background full of lies that is so bad he could not pass a background investigation to be a toll taker.
Do We Think RAP Was a Ploy at Onset – No. RAP revealed too much vital damaging information about the de facto government, although we now see that much of it was wrong. In any event, the damage was done in that many people now see the errors. We think that the de facto government heard about it, and tried to alter the course to suit their needs. This was possibly when Tim Turner was brought in. The de facto government is running scared right now.
Do We Think this New State Assemblies Movement is a Ploy? – No, we do not. Sure, you can say we were wrong about RAP; and, on this, we admit we were wrong about RAP. The secrecy was the problem. With full, open disclosure, we would never have fallen for RAP. We want change badly, as you do. We are sorry about the error with RAP, and we are going to keep trying until freedom is attained. Doing nothing is a fatal error. The new movement is again establishing errors the de facto government made. Their findings are consistent with my thinking, regarding the founding fathers being members of secret societies. The fellow, Dr. Livingston, has been working this movement since the 1990’s. Now, combined with the former RAP people, it has legs. I expect these legs to grow hard and fast. It is said we will see the actual paperwork within one week. They know time is short. They are trying to blend this movement in with many other movements including the Militias, I understand. I would expect to see the county Grand Juries in this, as well as other groups. Remember, this is open, direct straight up.
Does This New Movement Have Military Support? – Possibly Military support will transfer over. I am not sure any of them emphatically knows where the Military is on this. RAP was a dismal failure, so they might be chomping at the bit to get a solution in place, or they might be running cautious. Time will tell, but there is going to be open disclosure. If there are any signs of running silent, the movement will be vacated by everyone in it now.
Will the New Plan Work Without Military? – We think so. We think this movement will have hundreds of thousands of sign-ups in days; eventually grow to the millions. Remember, they are going to use the State Militias big time. This will scare the de facto government people in a big way, right down to the county Court House.
Will the de facto Government Use Police and Military Against this Movement? – We, no doubt, think they would like to, but they have to be careful. There are 100 million gun owners in the USA, according to many. They say 3% of these people will do what happened in Paul Revere’s day; that is, 3,000,000. This estimate now could have tripled by now. Obama is the perfect storm, remember that. He is a gift in this regards, making it easy to get people mobilized and march down to city hall – angry, ready for fast changes.
Will the Military Attack We the People for this Movement? – Doubt it highly. The parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, children, grandchildren and spouses of the Military live in the country. Their friends live in the country. They are not going to attack the people for the sake of the banksters, especially with perfect-storm Obama at the helm. When confronted, they will procrastinate and do nothing; possibly saying they refuse, or want to investigate the legality of the circumstances. Do not buy all this nonsense about the Military using weapons of mass destruction on the populace. They would be killing their friends and families and for whom – Obama? Come on.
The mid-line officers refused to follow his deployment orders to the Middle East, preferring to stand Court Martial instead. The Federal Police Agencies should not be relied on to do the right thing for their employers, the corporation; I doubt they will. But they are not a Military. They have shotguns, pistols and a few machine guns in 9mm and 10mm, maybe an armored car or two here and there. They have no Military might. These are not valiant courageous fighters who will never stand down against overwhelming odds. They greatly outnumber and outgun their adversaries, or they wait for more forces before deploying. Bullies and, to some large extent, cowards who are afraid to get into a real fight. If they have overwhelming odds, they will bully. If say 500 of them had to confront say 60 Militia, I would lay 10-to-1 odds they disband before engaging; or; maybe; do a Mexican standoff. If there were 200 militia against 500 of them, they would probably surrender, if they could not retreat, but they would never, ever engage. They are bullies when they have the odds and think no one will resist them. When the worm turns, they will be unreliable defenders for their masters, just cashing their paychecks for as long as they can. Think of it as your tax dollars at rest. I expect few will defect.
Remember, they live in our communities. If they are going to engage the Assemblies and Militia, they will need to relocate their families to secure bases. Look for this as a warning sign. The state, county, city, sheriffs, marshals, troopers and police will probably never raise arms. They will first try to just sit tight on the sidelines and cash their paychecks. Many will defect from the de facto and come over. Many Agencies themselves may convert to de jure. They are not going to be a problem; and, expect them to be allies, maybe not the first day but very soon. They are also highly teachable, so consider outreach early on. You think the NYPD and NYFD is enjoying the Obama-endorsed mosque going up near 9/11 after all the guys they lost? Reach out to these folks early.
Do We Think This New Plan Will Lead to Fighting? – No. Resistance will be futile for them. Remember the Militias are in place already, just need to be organized under the State Assemblies-elected Governors. It is important the movement run at a very fast pace, extremely fast. Also, bear in mind numerous other organizations are joining in as a collective, so the size at onset will be massive compared to RAP. This will grow at an amazing pace. It should work with transparency, since this enables us to get people involved.
What About Funding? – OK! Let Regan and Tom deal with this, along with others. There are ways to attach the funds the de facto guys stole. Any offshore-asset-protection law firm could explain how. Basically, you get orders from a de jure court and serve them on the foreign country where their funds are kept. Cutting through anonymous corps, trusts, foundations can be done if you know how; and, it is driven by a national government on charges like treason, extortion, sedition, genocide, murder, terrorism, etc. If the country, where the money is, does not cooperate, then you break relations with them, sue them for conspiracy, start blocking their wire transfers, and even grab funds and assets they have in other nations. If the gloves are off, there is no resistance, rest assured. Instead of giving money to the de facto government, we can all contribute what we can to jumpstart the government; others will want to contribute. Let’s worry about this as we go. Let’s go from A to B before we worry about J and K.
Do We Think RAP is Over? – We do. We have not heard from RAP. We used to be contacted numerous times per week by RAP people at various levels, which has stopped. We contacted RAP for answers on things in this article – got nothing back. We are hearing Turner resigned. We think RAP has had its day. If anyone in RAP has contrary information, we wish to hear it.
Do We Think That RAP People Will Be Arrested? – Emphatically, no! If there was no new movement, this would be a strong possible. Arrests would drive a new movement fast and hard, not the opposite. Remember, merging with the Militia is not just them coming into the fold, it is many others showing support and need of them. If you think the de facto government is not afraid of you, you are wrong. They are extremely afraid of you, as evidenced by their unrelenting desire to take your guns away. They are stupid. They are lazy. They like to consume alcohol and drugs. They seem to be unfaithful in their marriages, and like to have sex with children. They like statues, secrets and symbolism. This is your enemy. Respect the propensity for extreme violence. They are cruel, and will press hard; and, be very slow to give up, but they will give up. Do not believe they are smart. Also there are very few of them, maybe two or three thousand; some say two or three hundred.
What to Do? – Don’t mourn RAP. Don’t feel sorry for yourselves as if all is lost. Regroup immediately into the new movement, and keeping pressing on for a Constitutional Government. The founding fathers sure had their struggles, until they got free, if they ever really got free, which is now the topic. March on and keep you eye on freedom.
A Word to Those in the New Movement – Contact us so we can make people aware of the movement. We tried reaching out already, and got no answer. Talk to us.
Talk Shows – If any of you wish to get updates via internet talk shows send us an email to this address. We will add your name and email you as we do voice updates.
talkshow@panamalaw.org
We are seeking knowledgeable guests to appear on our talk shows. Please send us an email

hutz
hutz

Libertarians have the right outlook for America
[5:02:08 PM] Rob: Their only protection came from operating in secrecy until measures were in place
[5:02:39 PM] Rob: Very immature outlook
[5:03:10 PM] Rob: You don’t warn the enemy before taking them down
[5:04:30 PM] Rob: This is a Plan designed by God, the world is not ready until the fields are plowed under of evil
[5:05:22 PM] Rob: Corruption runs through all of government
[5:05:33 PM] Rob: Down to the county level
[5:05:47 PM] Rob: Yep
[5:06:01 PM] Rob: Police are corrupt
[5:06:36 PM] Rob: Until they are exposed and managed the playing field cannot be leveled
[5:07:31 PM] Rob: If you unlawfully arrest someone, you are corrupt
[5:07:58 PM] Rob: Courts are completely corrupted
[5:08:16 PM] Rob: All theway up to the Supreme Court
[5:09:09 PM] Rob: Guns are why America is still free
[5:09:53 PM] Rob: Yes indeed

getem
getem

Hi All

Ben posted this on his free site.

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G.T. Fulford’s Asia connection and links with Japanese freemasonry
Investigating a 110-year old mystery is always difficult, and it is more so when many important archives were destroyed in a fire. Nonetheless, I have come to the conclusion my industrialist great-grandfather was involved with Asian secret societies in a battle against what he called “Babylonian tyranny.”
G.T Fulford came from a poor background in Brockville, Ontario, Canada to become one of the richest men in the world by the time he died in 1905. He sold patent medicines in over 87 countries and was the largest single shareholder in General Electric at the time of his death.
He died in the first ever fatal car crash in North America when his car was side-swiped. After his death, according to my grandmother, most of his General Electric Shares were sold off by a corrupt trust fund and ended up in the hands of the Rockefeller syndicate.
G.T. Fulford visited Asia and set up extensive operations there, some of which run to this day.
Japanese dignitaries visited Fulford place and sent a representative to watch over the family after G.T. Fulford died. He went by the name of Mr. Rayburn (real name Suzuki) and stayed with the family until he was incarcerated during World War 2. His mind was destroyed during his stay at the Canadian concentration camp and he never recovered from that ordeal.
Here is a picture of G.T.’s daughter and some female acquaintances wearing kimonos sometime around 1900:

If any reader can identify them, please contact this website.
Members of the secret society G.T. Fulford belonged to now occupy senior positions in the Japanese government hierarchy.

patriotkate
patriotkate

We would definitely know that things are on the mend if some of the Free Energy were to developed and released in mass. Unfortunately, until now, it seems as though anyone that’s been successful at developing free and/or inexpensive forms of energy have either been bought off or offed.

That’s what makes so much of this so maddening is the fact that we know this technology exists and they have purposely kept it from us.

getem
getem

Hi All

Ben’s post refers to a picture and asks us to help identify some people. Unfortunately Ben has not included this picture in his post. Maybe he will post this later, possibly an oversite on his part?

g7enn
g7enn

Honeybees seem to be making a comeback where we live (near Santa Rosa, CA). In fact, there have been so many around lately that my wife thought we had a hive near our house. I’ve never seen so many in the past 5 years. I have no idea why. They just seemed to show up the last few months.

During the Bohemian Grove party not a chemtrail in the sky.

suncrystal
suncrystal

wbstreck, inre BEES!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

from EW:

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A friend of mine is a beekeeper. Last year he had a lot of problems with his bees and only one colony survived the winter.

In the spring of this year he bought some new bee colonies and I gave him a handful of TBs. He placed them under the hives and in the area around.

This year all the bees are very well and active and he got fine honey.

Moritz

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Yesterday this friend visited me and told me that he and another beekeeper who is living in the neighborhood had received an honor for the taste and quality of their honey.

it is quite a difference, if you remember that last year most of his bees died.

He is also convinced that this positive development is the result of orgonite.

(Anna and I gifted the whole area intensively during the last 9 months.)

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Another gifter said he placed cone-shaped TBs under some of his hives and the bees made their own cone shape, flying around above the hives!

hutz
hutz

A GREAT REBUT/ANSWER TO PANAMA LAWS
[6:10:59 PM] Riddle Mountain Man: I woke up this morning to an absurd post on NESARA, needless to say it made my blood boil and as you might predict, I set out to rebut it via the comment function. However my comment was too long for the software to accept. Since I was not willing to shorten it and the only part of it I would have liked to change is the term “intestinal fortitude” in favor of “testicular fortitude” but couldn’t do that and remain a lady, I sent it to John MacHaffie via email and asked him to post it. The rebuttal I authored is below and I hope it is acceptable. I did not however identify myself as a juror and used my initials instead of my whole name…………………

Ok, let’s just nip this one in the bud. First, Tim Turner has not resigned. Has he left RAP? Yes, RAP was a plan, a means to an end if you will. The plan is no longer needed because the Republic has been Restored. It is now the Republic of the united States of America. The Grand Juries will not “go dormant.” The two elders who resigned have decided to go forth with their own “Revised Version” of RAP and they have every right to do that even though it is not needed the education they wish to provide is. There are some serious problems as to the basis of that education though.
While Dr. Livingston believes himself to be right he is not, there is solid documentation to prove that the original constitution was indeed ratified properly however that is a moot point. The Law of the land was not based on the Constitution but rather the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution is to that Declaration what “by laws” are to modern corporations, a set of “Rules of Engagement” or a guide to how the mutual needs of the states in commerce and defense would be carried out. I won’t go into detailed history on that point at this time but leave it to all of you to do your own due diligence and look it up.
Has there been change at the top, absolutely as it appears two of the elders did not possess the intestinal fortitude to go the distance. They have succumbed instead to the fear the elite so artfully instill in the hearts of men. They have also been successful in taking some of the executive committee with them and that too is just as well, they can certainly be replaced. For those who do not accept that there exists by default a certain level of danger in any plan to restore this nation to her people and cannot accept the reality of how that danger will affect them on a personal level, there is no place of comfort save that of retreat.
The claim that the funding will not be completed is false. The claim that the corporation is gearing up to attack is yet to be seen but I ask you, did you think they wouldn’t? Did you think that an elite group of megalomaniac criminals who have carefully crafted a decades long plan to control the world, reduce its population, collapse nations and reap the wealth of the world unto themselves would simply stand down when the people rise up and object? I highly doubt they would or will but for those who are restoring this mighty nation once again to the people, a rock solid resolve is necessary.
I listened carefully to the call referenced above and found much of it to be poppycock to put it mildly. It is pure unadulterated insanity to entertain the notion even for a moment that the elite will sit on their thumbs and afford the people the time it would take to become re-educated and empowered enough to take their country back. This nation as we know it is on the brink of destruction. The corporation is broke, flat broke and they are in the throes of panic in their frantic search for refunding in order to complete the agenda. We are being pushed from every direction to take the bait and react in violence to give them the necessary excuse for declaring martial law. That has not worked and I contend the hand of God is the only reason it hasn’t. Failing that, they go on to plan B, to incite and promote WWIII and if you think that isn’t in the works at this very moment you are indeed comatose.
The preparation for pre-determined martial law has been going on for years. This is but one illustration…http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf That is disturbing to be sure but it’s also mild compared to some of the other measures they are prepared to take against the people of this country. The twisted groups of self styled elite at the heart of the agenda are utterly and completely morally bankrupt. They place no value on human life, human condition or divine guidance; indeed those concepts are repugnant to them. They will kill you just as easily as you might step on an ant. They will enslave you just as easily as you will bow down to their wishes out of fear. They will dictate your every action in every minute of every day for the rest of your lives and for the lifetimes of your children. This folks is the ultimate war between good and evil which has existed since time began and it is without doubt the “End Game” for the elite.
So, with the evidence everywhere you look and in every aspect of your daily lives what will you choose? For it is a choice; one that our founders also had to make, will you choose liberty and your rightful place in this great nation? Or will you bow down to fear as those who hold the leash around your neck desire? It’s that simple.
This woman will stand! Stand with the restored Republic of the united States of America!

Again, I hope this wasn’t too combative.

hfloyd
hfloyd

Patriotkate:
Yes- on the chemtrails I agree with you on that being a factor in addition to all the other things going on.

Suncrystal- I’ve been working with the bees using some of the co-creative science principles pioneered by Machaelle Wright, Reiki energy , and in building a relationship where they are respected and “listened to” .
we’ve just started looking into the CB and TB construction principles in order to test what the results might be. I just made contact with a local crystal supplier who digs them in Arkansas, so that was a nice find! I’ll be interested to hear from the bees once we make some of the organite to spread a round.

foodrules
foodrules

Some l-o-n-g posts are valuable. 🙂

~foodrules

wbstreck
wbstreck

To All , a great rebuttal, even more than a rebuttal, a valiant stand, and a insspiration to disclose the real truths ,and to go forth with courage and dignity.

cfree928
cfree928

hutzman 5:53 and 7:37 am Good posts! Thanks

hutz
hutz

go restored republics!!!!

hutz
hutz

God bless an protect the grand jurors
to the highest of high we pray

hutz
hutz

Hey there
[7:13:48 PM] Rob: I’m listening
[7:17:04 PM] Rob: Tim is the AntiChrist LOL
[7:17:32 PM] Rob: Tim was not the compromised one
[7:17:58 PM] Rob: No I avoid the RAP 1 room
[7:18:19 PM] Rob: To much conjecture and disinformation
[7:19:58 PM] Rob: RAP served honorably and well, now they need to move on and learn something
[7:20:43 PM] Rob: They issued lawful orders to the military
[7:20:48 PM] Rob: STAGE II
[7:20:58 PM] Rob: Right
[7:21:22 PM] Rob: The battlefield is being conditioned
[7:22:00 PM] Rob: White Knights are in the lead
[7:22:47 PM] Rob: Each Jury is severly compromised
[7:23:08 PM] Rob: Pray
[7:23:55 PM] Rob: Read your bible and it will all be revealed
[7:24:11 PM] Rob: This is the end times plan
[7:24:25 PM] Rob: Yes indeed
[7:25:10 PM] Rob: Trust in the Lord and the head of the White Knights St. Germaine
[7:25:43 PM] Rob: Think of the scope of ridding the earth of evil
[7:26:06 PM] Rob: No it is an illusion
[7:27:50 PM] Rob: You find yourself in a room full of mirrors waiting for a spiritual guide to lead you out

hutz
hutz

Greg – I’ll give you my 2 cents worth on RAP – I can’t say that RAP has officially split – but Tim has removed himself with a plan only he signed and took to the state coordinators to vote on – including voting on him to be president. This happened the week of July 15th and all happened basically over the weekend of Jiuly 16-19. Tom was extremely unhappy about this – Regan tried to be a peace maker as he has been between Tim and Sam Kennedy, and between Tim and Sam Davis, then between Tom Shaultz and Tim – do you see a pattern here??? Hmmm. Tim continued to move ahead with his plan once voted in as President – not called the Republic of the United States. On the other hand, Tom Schaultz and Regan, were very quiet for weeks and weeks – meeting with the FBI to cool things down with them over the turn Tim took and the organization he was planning (offices) and accusations of jury tampering and bribery. They had to meet with the FBI numerous times in person and on the phone to try to appease them and keep the GJ members that voted out of a possible big problem for themselves. Some even signed a Writ of Divorce when they found out they’d voted for a plan not sanctioned by ALL the elders some felt deceived and very angry and are to this day. Until Sunday night we’d heard almost nothing from Tom and Regan and wondered where they were in all this. Suddenly came the message from Regan, posted on John’s blog that there would be a call and that we were all invited to attend and we’d hear from Dale Livingston. Dale is extremely well -educated in the law, our history and the constitution and did a surperb job (my opinion) in presenting his thoughts of what needed to be done to put the people back in power the way the original constitution meant it to be. Dale has a charter he wrote in the 90’s – what he shared Sunday night as part of the charter was very impressive (my opinion) I presume Tom and Regan are intending to implement the plan Dale shared – it is a bottom’s up plan — not a top down plan. Regan shared that there were publically washing their hands of anything that “might” happen to folks under Tim’s plan. The GJ members have been asked to “stand down” – as unintentional mistakes were made from the beginning with RAP and we need to go back to the roots of the constitutution and get it ratified by the states lawfully (which was never done) -and then go from there. This nation, the congress, the presidency ALL are defacto because the continental congress set these things up ignoring the law and the constitution so there are many “holes” that have to be mended and until they are – ANYTHING that is done aside from doing it correctly will only BENEFIT the current defacto government. Every thing this “new” endeavor (under Regan, Tom and Jed and ????? and Dale do will be upfront and in the open – Dale’s documents (written in the 90’s) have to be updated to 2010 and then they will be ready for ALL to view. I hope this helps. I’m not sure that any of them have officially “resigned” from RAP on paper – but I don’t know that the name RAP will continue to be associated with any of them. It is up to us to listen and decide which group we think is the one that will prevail. Right now I believe they have military “protection” – but that’s not the same as “military” support. I don’t believe either one of them have any “funds” they can lay their hands on. If anyone disagrees with what I’ve shared here – you are welcome to make it known – I can only share the knowledge I have.

hutz
hutz

MULTIPLE UFO ORBS SPOTTED OVER OREGON! A HELICOPTER FLYS BY TO CHECK THEM OUT!!! 08/20/2010
Submitted by JS – thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RuL1hWMQY

hutz
hutz

Masterminds, Mosques and Mass Insanity: “War on Terrorism” Propaganda Ratcheted up Ahead of War Escalation

By Larry Chin

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20703

Global Research, August 20, 2010

hutz
hutz

The Long Road to The Hague: Prosecuting Former Prime Minister Tony Blair
Part I

By Lesley Docksey

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20740

Global Research, August 23, 2010

joann
joann

Hfloyd, thank you. I learned more about the bee situation from your post than all the articles I’ve read over the past 3 years. Good recommendation on the raw honey. I assumed most honey is pasteurized, probably unnecessarily.

For those of you who haven’t heard of Royal Bee Honey, it’s more of a health supplement. I understand it is created by the worker bees for the nourishment of the Queen Bee. Benefits of taking it are associated with energy, longevity and immune system protection. Containing 35% protein, it is a highly concentrated source of essential nutrients containing all the B vitamins, vitamins C, D, E and K, more than 12 minerals, 18 amino acids, collagen and lecithin.

http://royalbee.net/ One tablespoon a day. It’s delicious!

hutz
hutz

[7:55:26 PM] Greatvoice: Also there was a great Article on “Did Andrew Breitbart Lay A Trap For Sherrod’s Fraud… Unbelievable!! http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=180069 Where there was Fraud on the part of Ms. Sherod: here is the Article. Where somehow Mistyeriously some 39,697 Black/ Negro farmers changed to 86,000 claims… How could that happen: Read ON: Did Andrew Breitbart Lay A Trap For Sherrod’s Fraud… Unbelievable!!
He proved it originally with his brilliant handling of the ACORN ‘hooker’ scandal which he skillfully manipulated so that the corrupt media was forced, against its will, to broadcast corruption in one of Obama’s most powerful political support groups. But Breitbart’s handing of that affair is nothing compared to his brilliant manipulation of the Shirley Sherrod ‘white farmer’ scandal.

beatbox151
beatbox151

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7962664/Vast-solar-system-found-127-light-years-away.html

A vast solar system of seven planets orbiting a sun-like star has been discovered 127 light years from Earth.

The planetary system is believed to be the largest ever detected beyond the sun.

Astronomers have confirmed the presence of five planets and have tantalising evidence of two more.

beatbox151
beatbox151

Jordan Maxwell — Jeff Rense Interview 08-16-10 Part 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68z_6F5ObyM&feature=related

hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz

Obama’s Approval Hits All-Time Low of 39 Percent Among Men, Says Gallup
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/71557

hutz
hutz

Message from SaLuSa from the Galactic Federation

Submitted by BM – Thanks

Messenger Mike Quinsey
23-August-2010

Dear Ones, let it be said that before you dropped down into the lower vibrations, you were fully aware of your origin as a Spark of God. That was so long ago that it cannot be spoken of in linear terms, as initially you were not in a physical body such as you have now. However, intelligent life forms have been on Earth for millions of years during which the Earth has become a prison planet, where for various reasons souls have been sent to it. As a result you have become quite a mixture of souls, from the unmanageable who exploited the dark energies, to those who have brought the Light with them. What has ensued for millennia of time is constant battles between the dark and Light to control the Earth. Each have had periods when they have been the dominant force, and gradually the Light has emerged as the victor. However, this was not before the dark Ones virtually achieved their plan for total world control, and the slavery of Mankind.
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/08/message-from-salusa-from-galactic.html

hutz
hutz

Vince Vance’s Musical Video Called I am New Orleans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V86xxTm8-ek&feature=player_embedded

hutz
hutz

I think thje needs groups are being funded by the farm claims and thats different then the nasara bill
[8:58:05 PM]
David A Blodgett: http://www.omegansareliars.com/nesara-gunpoint.htm

here’s another nesara link
[8:59:21 PM] David A Blodgett:
http://nesara.insights2.org/

[9:13:50 PM] David A Blodgett: this was an interesting article to read and you can form your own opinion
[9:13:56 PM] David A Blodgett: http://nesara.insights2.org/Dove.html

hutz
hutz

Ray Stevens – God Save Arizona
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWpOcZVnBrc

this is an excellent song

hutz
hutz

The Face Of Evil: BANNED INTERVIEW with George Bush Jr. Former US President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-RYC9ouIEg

hutz
hutz

http://bit.ly/cWcOSE ~ Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos
http://bit.ly/bebO4N ~ ABU GHRAIB Torture & Prisoner Abuse
http://bit.ly/cGDbw6 ~ The Bush Administration’s Response To ABU GHRAIB
http://bit.ly/cNBxX9 ~ GEORGE SR-NEW WORLD ORDER
http://bit.ly/9rNyCH ~ Bush Gets Caught In His Own Lie

Finding The Humor
http://bit.ly/cEzYZb ~ 8 Years Of ‘Bushisms’
http://bit.ly/cibeys ~ george bush is funny
http://bit.ly/9Eedjb ~Must See Hilarious Bush Bloopers!
http://bit.ly/d8FiAT ~ George W Bush – American Idiot
http://bit.ly/ani4zI ~ George W. Bush screw ups

hutz
hutz
wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi BEN and Ya’all
We rally have it going on on this blog. Great insights, reporting and encouraging comments made by all.

But we really have to ‘take out’ the TPTB and their Assasins and genocidal projects that the NWO-cabal, PTB, Sociopathic Illuminati-Nazi Satanists have in store for four billion of us.There has been break in the various attcks on our humanity, maybe they are hard at work trying to foment WWlll with Iran and that has them busy , causing this lull in their evil-doings, even chemtrails, I hear from , you’all. Before it’s NEWS, Sorch Faal’s site discusses the murder of Matt Simmons by SIS,or, MI6.
I still say we need to get help from the Avazz worldwide grassroots action organization and get BP in receivership for ecological and physical damages to the world’s enviorment, and many other injured parties.This was an epic catastophe due to negelct and poor management by BP. Methane is 20 times worse than carbondioxide,as having the greenhouse gas effect on the planet.Let them pay for their carnage. Over a quarter of a million maritime creatures died an oily death too. Deadly Corexit in the sea, acid rain in the skies.
Matt was a good steward on the earth blessing both mankind and our planet. Please see the uplink below regarding Matt Simmon’s( of Rockport,Maine)assasination.
And at this same time remember, the murder of Chris Story , and the attempts on Ben’s life.
One every post we call for the necessary intervention of the WDS,BDS,Red and Green warriors, and The Pentagon Chiefs to remove this bain of sociopathic murderers from be world society.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1399.htm

kohala889
kohala889

TRUTH AND DISCERNMENT

Recently I have been very impressed with the high level of rational and reasonable judgment shown by some commenters:

It is so easy to be fooled by these guys. No wonder Ben Fulford has such a difficult time discerning truth. I’ve been fooled by Ron Paul, Len Horowitz, Tim Turner, Al Gore, and a host of others. We just have to admit it and move on. Discernment becomes more challenging as we move through the process since the misguided ones present us with people that often are increasingly truthful (better liars?). g7enn

I feel it is important to not rush into snap judgements of people or entities. fooodrules

What we HAVE to STOP doing is participating in the Right/Left duality paradigm that has kept us divided. We have to look at the INDIVIDUALS we want to represent us and what their values are. The letter behind their name is totally irrelevant. PK

Allow your own inner-spirit be your guide and You will see what has been hidden in plain sight all along. abetterlife

I have my own thoughts but it is not up to me to convince the world.It is up to me to try and disseminate the information but I cannot convince someone of something if their blinders are on. And, it doesn’t mean everything I pass on is the truth either but as long as we keep opening up people’s eyes, they become better thinkers. Chrisb

Many thanks you guys for those. On the other hand, statements such as the following seem to be a bit over the top:

Huff Po is such an outrageously liberal mouthpiece funded by George Soros and you should be very, very cautious about following their thinking as THEY HATE AMERICA. [my emphasis]

Obama is the anti Christ.
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It’s easy to pigeonhole people as this or that. Problem is that hardly anyone or any news site is all one way or the other. Everyone has redeeming qualities as well as some dark areas. The minute we decide something is good or bad, we find some new information which contradicts our latest view.

And not only that but these folks are continually changing their views as they progress on the road to greater consciousness. Who knows what things will look like tomorrow or next week? On the whole, we’re doing a good job of sorting it all out.

Aloha

beatbox151
beatbox151

New stuff from the BF’s free blog

G.T. Fulford’s Asia connection and links with Japanese freemasonry
Investigating a 110-year old mystery is always difficult, and it is more so when many important archives were destroyed in a fire. Nonetheless, I have come to the conclusion my industrialist great-grandfather was involved with Asian secret societies in a battle against what he called “Babylonian tyranny.”
G.T Fulford came from a poor background in Brockville, Ontario, Canada to become one of the richest men in the world by the time he died in 1905. He sold patent medicines in over 87 countries and was the largest single shareholder in General Electric at the time of his death.
He died in the first ever fatal car crash in North America when his car was side-swiped. After his death, according to my grandmother, most of his General Electric Shares were sold off by a corrupt trust fund and ended up in the hands of the Rockefeller syndicate.
G.T. Fulford visited Asia and set up extensive operations there, some of which run to this day.
Japanese dignitaries visited Fulford place and sent a representative to watch over the family after G.T. Fulford died. He went by the name of Mr. Rayburn (real name Suzuki) and stayed with the family until he was incarcerated during World War 2. His mind was destroyed during his stay at the Canadian concentration camp and he never recovered from that ordeal.
Here is a picture of G.T.’s daughter and some female acquaintances wearing kimonos sometime around 1900:

If any reader can identify them, please contact this website.
Members of the secret society G.T. Fulford belonged to now occupy senior positions in the Japanese government hierarchy.

hutz
hutz

http://web.archive.org/web/20041211152031/http://untomanynations.faithweb.com/tms-unto4.html
This next Document is not for the

faint of heart,

nor the squeamish,

For It represents a legal truth which

rises to an astounding degree of

realization.

hutz
hutz

When you are fishing for trolls the best way to get a bite is to call Obama the Antichrist. or something .Then you look back to see if same person supported known trolls in the past . And make your own judgment.
so be it.

g7enn
g7enn

Quotes from The Nature of Personal Reality

BP OIL SPILL NOT DISAPPEARING

Fluoride Kills — The Dentist’s Tale

Ron Paul A Mason & John Bircher?

Obamas Mortgage Amelioration Program A Fraud-Webster Tarpley

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

sierra
sierra

Amero??? OR Bancor???

IMF proposing a “global currency” …

A paper entitled “Reserve Accumulation and International Monetary Stability” by the Strategy, Policy and Review Department of the IMF recommends that the world adopt a global currency called the “Bancor” and that a global central bank be established to administer that currency. The report is dated April 13, 2010
…more…
http://www.infowars.com/bancor-the-name-of-the-global-currency-that-a-shocking-imf-report-is-proposing/

****************************************

Sierra

chrisb
chrisb

kohala889 , you mentioned being fooled by Len Horowitz and Ron PAul. FIrst I am curious as to the evidence you read that concerned what he did. All I know about him is based on a friends attending the anti-ageing convention and exposing the Pharm companies and the CDC for their mercury and other tainted vaccines. In todays world that and discovering how to cure a disease and publicizing it normally gets one killed. Being on the firing line with public statements of large criminal enterprises is not the brightest thing to do if you want to survive but he did it. So what was it that fooled you about him. Ron Paul, while I have seen all the secret handshake pictures and videos, what stood out with him that brought his name into this venue of non trustworthy people. WHere’s Kevin Trudeau when you need him. Oh yeah shooting another video using someone elses information. LOL

fixthefuture
fixthefuture
kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

To: Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, Nobody (left anyone out?)

I’m a numbers person, too. I like working with numbers.

82 comments ending with hutz on 8/24 @ 2:57PM
175 comments ending with sierra on 8/25 @ 1:25PM
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177 comments ending with fixthefuture on 8/25 @ 1:39PM
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kohala and chrisb:

Regina Meredith of consciousmedianet.com recently interviewed Len Horowitz this month. I’ll go check it out to see what’s the latest, and I PROMISE not to do the unspeakable and unmentionable.
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Ran out of toothpaste and diligently searched for a fluoride-free brand, found one, it’s put out by Tom’s of Maine, a natural propolis & myrrh, antiplaque, spearmint. The cost was the same as the brand names Crest, Colgate, etc. Sold! Put the Crest Sensitive back on the shelf. Oh, I found this in a CVC (former Longs Drugs) store.

E Aloha Malama Pono on 8/24 @ 7:51PM

kohala889
kohala889

Chrisb, That was a quote from a comment made by g7enn. Probably should have put it in quotes. Sorry. Maybe he could clear that up for you. I attributed the quotes at the end of each paragraph.

Aloha

hutz
hutz

The winner is 177 comments ending with fixthefuture on 8/25 @ 1:39PM
give that person a cigar!!!

dingiem
dingiem

For natural body stuff, search for stevia products because there is stevia toothpaste.
Also, the Ancient Indian ayurveda has a wealth of products for your own good, also toothpaste without fluoride which I use.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Len Horowitz interview with Regina Meredith in August 2010.

Vaccination and The Love Frequency
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“Dr. Horowitz can tell you more about the world’s most urgent problems, and who is creating them (illuminati cabal), than possibly anyone on earth. But he prefers to tell you about the suppressed solutions, and how “We The People” are manifesting them…

In this interview we get an update on the H5N1 flu virus that is anticipated to emerge at the end of 2010, as well as his views on big pharma. Over the past 30 years he has come full-circle, beginning and triumphing in natural healing. A “World Leading Intellectual”, christened “The King David of Natural Healing” for his BigPharma-indicting award-winning books, DVDs, CDs and documentary films exposing the drug cartel’s medical mischief, he is now focused on teaching “the world to sing in perfect harmony” in 528Hz frequency-the main music of LOVE and healing.”
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Understanding understood as the questions now have answers, if not enlightment, because the spirit is neither male or female, black, yellow, brown, red or white or Avatar blue, (i.e. genderless and raceless)nor rich or poor. Can never be duplicated or altered and very highly intelligent. The spirit will always be subject to challenges, and can never be held captive. You cannot take the spirit out of the human being, it has the ability to leave on its own, does not need anyones approval or denial (i.e. I’m out of here and maybe I’ll come back if the human has learned to honor my presence , this my dear ones is the frightening part, being left behind without a spirit).

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Any way here were the topic of discussion between Len Horowitz and Regina Meredith. The video was 53:15 long.

+ H1N1 and H5N1
=genocidal de-population project/program via natural phenomena. Plan (not happening, yet) to kill 6 out of 7 individuals.
=H1N1 was used to start-up/introduce the upcoming H5N1 this fall.
=via natural phenomena. H1N1 castrophic numbers were never met, fizzled out.
=The Mexico Swine Flu is the prime example in April 2009.
=Being recombined.
=a billion dollar pharmaceutical winner.
=Russian Bio Cocktail Method
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+ Oxi Silver
=double super conductor
=mineral water
=oxygen is healing (i.e. hyperbaric chamber)
=water and silver, the center chakra
=spirituality (not religion) is healing
=plants know the effects of water
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+ A440Hz Frequency
=standard frequency tuning
=war technology, acoustic frequency to create mass hysteria
=affects your center chakra
=created for pharmaceutical business to deal with the mass hystera
=Military War Music
=A444Hz, natural frequency = C552A, musicians in the spirit took it up to this level, tuned it back to the center chakra frequency (i.e. do you feel the love?)

+ Col. Tom Parker and Elvis Presley
=Parker born in Netherlands, not American, yet joined the Army in 1928, illegally
=Army Special Services involvement, drew Elvis into joining
=Elvis’ audience was mass hysteria (yelling, screaming, crying)
=RCA contract was with the R & R cabal, Nazi propaganda.
=the throat chakra down is blocked, above is the ego, left brain, the god of technology
=need to optimize performance from the heart chakra (feel the love)
=A440 is suppression
=music is mathmatics, the universe is music/mathmatics.
=music coming out of water (center chakra)
=Go to love528.com
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+ Love Frequency
=maximum spiritual repression
=A440Hz music rejected by the aboriginal.

=Horowitz: Can music save the world? Yes.
=Blade of grass is 528. Dogs eat grass for healing? Natural with dogs.

=Where is source of energy? Electrons, waters H+, vibrating, greenish, yellow.

=spirit is energy, indigenous
=water is the superconducter of sound.

+ Go to 528records.com.
+ Go to John Todd (musical industry, there are temples built within the studio, modern music)

Goodnight, Everybody, Somebody, Anybody or Nobody!

E Aloha Malama Pono!

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all here,I was wondering if any of you had heard of, or had any thoughts / opinions on, the writings of Ashayana Deane.I have always been amazed & pleasently surprised at the diversity of knowledge & points of view being put forth here within many of your posts,hense the reason why I posed the question.In this world of veiled truths & blatant lies,it seems harder than ever to disern.Any replies or responses would be greatly appreciated.Peace to all of you on your journey,RCG

jj59
jj59
jj59
jj59
jj59
jj59

Prepare Radio- Host: Jerry Adams, Miguel Espinal (Defender of Freedom), Pops (On the Front Lines)

Today the boys use a free forum style to discuss the paranormal issues on everyones mind. Miguel kicks off with stories of ancient Sumerian alien invasions. Does our government hide technology,from the people in-order to enslave them? Did Aliens seed the earth? We discuss the accuracy of the Holy Bible. We discuss Hitlers wonder weapons. Pops continues in his talk about multiple time lines. Jerry finishes off with a horrifying story about his real life demon encounter.

First half of the show:
http://m.podshow.com/media/23937/episodes/245385/prepareradio-245385-08-20-2010.mp3

Second half of the show:http://m.podshow.com/media/23937/episodes/245387/prepareradio-245387-08-20-2010.mp3

jtgun
jtgun

well, can all agree that what we have is a global masonic plan?On another note i used to farm around 600 acres,when the monsanto gmo roundup ready corn and soybeans came into view it didnt take long to see where it was going.If you consume any food that is cornfed such as beef,chicken it is GMO.All corn and soybeans that is fed to these animals are gmo.If you look back to the eighties and ninties,a lot of farms were foreclosed on.Look today and most are rolling in the hay.Why,because they are producing poison for the cabal..Do they know?Probably not.They are being paid heavy subsidies by the corporation to deliver the goods.When the time comes that the producer or farmer is no longer needed in the form as today,the cabal will start bankrupting again,and take over the farms.Farmers today run heavy debt but for most have almost endless lines of credit.The day will come in the near future when these notes will be called upon.

wbstreck
wbstreck

jtgunn check out the Bankers Manifesto of 1892.
Planned victimization of the common people that hold property. They all should die. That is the Masons,Illuminati, are nothing less than Satanic, evil forces that must be eliminated immediately.It is us ,or, them!

jtgun
jtgun

What we have here is a failure to communicate.When you learn to see i mean really see the truth,learn to see things in everyday life and knowing that they are against you,to bring humanity to its knees and you try to enlighten people for which i have tried to do for a long time,with virtually no success,its tough.Anywhere or place that i go i see,its all in your face.Being able to see will cost you dearly and not neccessarly in monetary form but something much more than monetary wealth.As in the post by cfree on the secret covenet posted above,they will make you look like anutjob.

jtgun
jtgun

With that said,not being able to see will also cost you dearly.

wbstreck
wbstreck

jtgunn A lot of people now see them and want them gone.
Like the WDS,BDS, Red,Green gangs,and several powerful governments want to eject the cabal very badly. There are billions, and GOD, against 10,000 of ‘them’.

jtgun
jtgun

The above post also includes pork.99% of hogs and poultry are grown in confined housing.poulrty houses 500 feet in length,30,000in each house,at 5 weeks not being able to stand on there on feet.Easy money you ask for the producer?Sure,i came extremly close to building 8 grower poultry houses borrowing 1.8 million.it was adone deal.At last minute i walked away.The profit for me and family per year would have been $250 to $280,000 per year with the debt payment taken out.In other words a yearly profit of at least $250,000 clear.Do you see how someone would have no trouble in producing poison for the corporation.All poultry on the store shelf come from these same houses,pork is grown in the same confining way.It would not have been a plesant venture opening the chicken house door,knowing that i would have been a part of producing poison for the population or the corporation.

jtgun
jtgun

WBS,The leaders of all governments are in together worldwide,there is no question.

g7enn
g7enn

I agree that once you see, you will look like a nut job from the perspective of those who are asleep. Once you see more you will realize that each person wakes up in his or her own time. Forcing it does not work and is akin to what the misguided ones do in that they use force to gain their ends. Focusing on those in the process of waking helps avoid some of this challenge. Timing and wisdom helps one avoid the nut job categorization and the frustration that goes with it. And, yes, some we will just have to let go. Fishing is a good analogy: the right bait, in the right place at the right time…

jtgun
jtgun

Man yeah,hunting or fishing i do a lot of.As stated before i run a logging operation,am sitting now in timber beside a small lake, i would guess to be 3 acres in size while watching the feller buncher continue to lay the trees on the earths floor.Thats my life.As for time its running out FAST.

martha
martha

jtgun

I appreciate your putting people before profit.

Easy to do big agriculture. If you want to have a small organic family farm…not so much.

The govt. has already taken over the word organic. It belongs to them. In order to be certified, there are mountains of forms to fill out and file. You have to trace the seed from production to market..and keep up with it.You are inspected with stringent rules and regs.Big Ag gets all kinds of subsidies..even for not growing crops.

Yet food bought in the grocery store can come from Mexico , China and South America ,, fertilized with human manure.Even Canada is using treated human waste on their crops. Just as bad , fertilizer and pesticides that are banned in the US for toxicity are fine for the countries that really produce the food now. Last I heard Brazil was the world’s largest food exporter.

Wonder how Nikita Kruschev knew decades ago that the US would destroy itself from the inside. Noticed the greed factor? Alex D’Toqueville (sp?), the French sociologist toured America when we were an infant country…. He wondered if love of freedom or money would win out.

jtgun
jtgun

Human waste is and has been used here in the carolinas since 2006.The cost for the farmer is 0 nothing free.It is delivered to a farm free of charge.I know this for a fact.

martha
martha

jtgun

Just read your post on farming.

A friend of mine lived on a tobacco farm when Jimmy Carter was president. The farmers were encouraged by the govt. to buy new equipment because of low interest rates. Then interest rates hit an all time high..gas became scarce for some reason. City people had to wait in lines for gas..farmers could not buy it ..with crops needing harvesting. Big Ag snapped up those family farms with equipment for pennies on the dollar. It wasn’t until Raygun (sp?) got in office that the SC deemed it all unlawful. The damage was done then. Jimmy Carter’s friends were Big Ag. He did not run a small family farm.The South went Republican.

TPTB did the same thing with housing. When gas prices went up , interest rates on credit cards and no jobs..Does the US have the most trusting population of govt in the history of the world?

positivechange
positivechange

rcg335,

I hadn’t hear about her earlier, but it is very interesting.

Here is a link for everyone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-ZaU6FHNw&feature=channel

There are 3 parts with about 2.5 hours each. I’ve just started and the information is very knowledgable. A lot of things that David Icke and others mention could originate from this group?

jtgun
jtgun

Take the egg recall going on right now.Salmanella in eggs(wrong spelling)gimme a break,watch how many egg companies will face bankruptcy.This will end up being a nationwide dilemmabased on what.NOTHING BUT LIES

jtgun
jtgun

Take the peanut butter fiasco a couple of years ago.Who ended up the winner JIMMY CARTER of course.

jtgun
jtgun

How the hell does that manufactured disese get insde the egg?Outside possible but i dont eat the shell.How bout you.Lies and takeover.Create a solution then the problem.

jtgun
jtgun

All goes back to the post of cfree SECRET COVENET.Read that post closly. every thing in it is in your face and more to come.

jtgun
jtgun

If it is inside the egg then it has to be inside the chicken

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and All
Regarding the PTB. We have revealed and explained our desire that ‘We The People’ seek for TPTB, to realease us from their ongoing victimization and the stalking of our fortunes, our health and our very lives.
They show no signs of recanting from their evil ways, and continue all manners of exploitation against ‘We The People’ of the world.
The “Fiat FED” can no longer support the United States Corporation. We ‘The People’ are taking a pro-active initiative , peacefully,and purposely, to end their authority and influence over us, and to that effort do we avail our energies.

hutz
hutz

MORE from skype about RAP and its future . =========The real deal is the REAL leadership is continuing to bring this country to Freedom.
America has been restored.
The housecleaning is done. The tree has been pruned.
Many who “were” a part of RAP and left were there for selfish and greedy reasons.
They have been exposed.
Those exposed will even continue to lie and attempt to divide, but it will be a worthless
endeavor. They have fallen.
Those who have chosen the path of division will walk in deception unless they repent and turn from
their evil ways. Their choice.

God cleaned house. The signature of God is all over the house cleaning of RAP.
This had to happen so God could continue His plan and use those who are WHOLE!
Kennedy, Davis, Reegan and Tom had to go because of their own sin.
I and others never heard Kennedy end his prayers in the name of Christ. As for the
others it is pretty easy to see.

It is obvious WHO instigated this division, WHO has chosen to follow those instigators
and WHO on this page continue to create confusion, as confusion is a tool used by satan.
Those on this RAP 1 page who will continue to slander TT are exposed for who they really are.
Those who choose to stay on the fence are useless feeders who have little to no decision making
capabilities. Period. So be it. You have chosen.
Anyone who has chosen to walk in line with leaders who insist martial law is necessary in every state
to restore this republic, or those who believe violence, revenge, and division is the only way to Freedom are
in for a rude awakening.
It is laughable that the ego’s who thought they could destroy RAP and that most
of the juries would follow them have egg on their faces right now.
Reagan and Tom want martial law and think they can create their own plan. It has failed!
Livingston has a devils heart and that is obvious by his own writings here: (thank you Rose)
http://web.archive.org/web/20041211152031/http://untomanynations.faithweb.com/tms-unto4.html
Any person who quotes scripture in one verse and writes the above is a heathen, no matter what the
rest of his site says. It is filled with demonic hate and he is an unfit leader. Not a leader at all.
Livingston is one of the people deeply involved in the separation of RAP and his true colors are shown.
God has exposed him. So be it!
Please read that document. If you still do not see the evil in those words and continue to sit on the mindless fence
then you have scales over your eyes. You cannot see the truth and sometimes GOD will put those scales over
your eyes because your heart is not pure.

The above people and those who pick up disinfo and run with it or those who have blatantly slandered Tim Turner
will probably continue to do so.
The decisions these people make are for who? Ask yourself that question.
Ask yourself WHAT ARE THEIR INTENTIONS? Ask yourself who has a foul mouths. Ask yourself WHO wants
martial law. Friday nights call with Reagan said it all. His words, “mute that “F###$%” Why did he want
that person muted. Perhaps that person was telling the truth.

I know who Tim Turner is, and I know WHO guides him, and I know how much Turner loves this country,
and the light of Christ is all over him.
The office building in place will have a 24 hour prayer team day in and day out to be a witness
and protector of the Republic. That is the America I want.
Now turn your hearts around an repent to our Father in Heaven and lets move on with freeing the enslaved.============================================

hutz
hutz

The story the news media is not telling you
about the massive egg recall.

Video and text commentary:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/919.html

merek

Revewing Ben’s latest information regarding Nakasone’s Trilat potential population gleening program.
the addition of feminizing and sterilizing chemicals being mixed into the Japanese food and supply made me recall a recent article( can’t recall the source) about 6-9 year old in the US and Europe going into early puberty.
Not being a scientist I wonder about the huge amounts of
antibiotics put into our Meat,eggs and poultry supplies, with the approval of the FDA, and we wonder why we have infections resistant to all treatments breaking out all over the Continent.

Dr Louis Streckler MD broke the story of the infections (HIV)of Blacks and Homosexuals being trageted and infected via the Hep B vaccinations in the 70tys and 80tys.
The continued expouser of our fighting men and women to the insideous affects of Depleted Uranium weapons during their repeated tours in the Middle East. There has also been internal US contamination via training centers and Livermore Labs surface tests just south of Berkely California. a couple of years ago I spoke with returning
National Guard Enlisted men and their NCO’s and Jr Officers, And none even knew of the dangers that they were being exposed to.

The use of “Coreexit” on the recent climate changing oil disaster knowing full well that it’s usage would cause to medical and agriculture effects on populations throught the 5 most affected southern states.
Should you be interested in following the most important
effects of the coordinated war on humankind by the PTB
You should order and read:

“Our Toxic World, A Wake Up Call,Chemical Damage your body ,brain, behavior and sex.” by Doris J. Rapp MD

Notice I haven’t mentioned other pressing medical disasters
we face by the use of cell phones and living in proxsimity (1 mile or less) to the broadcast towers. and the many cancers and brain tumors linked to our use ,the greatest dangers are to the young and elderly who might have compromised immune systems .

I am sure you all can add to this list ,rampant pollution
ect. ect.
We must reform the government Agencies charged with our
protection and end corporate lobbyist control of the self same.
As It Always Was

hutz
hutz

Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Main Illuminati swag bag uncovered by auditors. $200 quadrillion of élite-stolen funds now sequestered and neutralised.
John’s Comments – Good news even if from Casper (he must get some info right!)
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2010/04/altnews4-httpalcuinbramerton.html
Alcuin Bramerton Twitter
Alcuin Bramerton profile ….. Index of blog contents ….. Home

Main Illuminati swag bag uncovered by auditors. $200 quadrillion of élite-stolen funds now sequestered and neutralised. Western Heads of State, Vatican Satanists, US politicians all fingered. Major figures and nations changing sides in behind-the-scenes geopolitical alliance-shifts. Ongoing problem with personnel selection and jurisdictional bona fides of Hague Arbitral Tribunal.

jtgun
jtgun

When this thing falls.everything will stop.How many will perish because of no income.No social security,no healthcare,no retirement and no way of food.How will the elderly as a whole have a chance?TPTB WILL HAVE THEIR POPULATION REDUCTION.

jtgun
jtgun

And blame it on your and my stupidity

hutz
hutz

Hutz is glad he has better things to do than count others post to see who is posting the most .
Thanks again God .

foodrules
foodrules

Interesting topic…food! 🙂 Its comical how different foods are demonized by the media, on again, off again. And, in the same way, this humancompost/fertilizer is as well. IF the fertilizer was pure human waste, I don’t think it would be bad. The Asians, I believe, have been using it for milennia. The problem in the u.s. is that it is full of pharm. toxins from all the pills people take, and chemical toxins from all the horrible food products they eat, and all the sprays that are added to the sewage ponds. Oh, and all those lovely household cleansers that strip soap off our bath tile and kill bugs from 40 yards away.

Its the same thing with a lot of foods that are demonized. There’s nothing wrong with milk, contrary to some’s beliefs. The problem is that the milk has been killed by pasturization and homogenation, and the poor cow has been living with hormone implants and addicted to incompatible grain mixtures. Personally, I don’t eat many milk products but if I chose to, it would be a challenge to find original quality milk.

And, as to the H1N1, we just heard (heresay perhaps) that it was being carried by mosquitos in Eastern OR. That came from a neighbor farmer who listens carefully to whats going on. So we are preparing to up our immune system.

But back to food; its good to be aware of the hold the food industry can have on us. Becoming self-sufficient as soon as possible will help. Bartering, establishing a network now, may be helpful. The local family farmers, those who sell to the farmer’s markets, are a valuable source. The farmer’s markets have lots of fed red tape connected so to deal with those farmers without that middleman may help them have a direct market plan set up in the near future, Starting a food co-op without govt intervention, of community members or just neighbors, may work.

I don’t know about those living where all the food gets trucked in, but I think even in those areas there may be hidden jewels of backyard gardeners who may be helpful. When we lived in the southwest I got so I rarely ate “fresh” (store-bought) vegies and fruit because it was just horrible, unless I grew it myself. I learned of gardeners in the area though who had desert gardening techniques that worked. It wasn’t easy and greenhouses really helped.

Yes, meat produced commercially is just horrible when you consider what the critter was raised and fattened on, and in what living conditions. To eat home-grown chickens, one must change their beliefs in what poultry tastes like. Homegrown tastes so real that a person having lived on factory chicken is often taken aback by all the flavor, plus the smaller meat amount per chicken. Its still hard for me. We have a free-range poultry producer close by and the meat is wonderful but my family is still not used to these leggy stream-lined carcasses, which a natural chicken should look like. We have been trained to expect chicken that got so heavy it could no longer walk, and was only 2 months old. Sad! But, belief systems take conscious work to change. That’s my lot in life, but it’s all good in the end!

Oops, long ramble…
~foodrules

jtgun
jtgun

Everything comes from the dirt in one form or another.When they started poisoning the dirt then all from the dirt becomes poison.ENTER MONSANTO GMO CROPS

paladin
paladin

RE:eggs

Have heard this whole salmonella hoax is so they can start pastuerizing eggs.

Guess all the antibiotics and GMO food they feed the chickens isn’t enough, now they need to figure out a way to poison the eggs, too.

foodrules
foodrules

Whoa! Hutz, where did that RAP thing come from? (1:55 a.m.)
~foodrules

jtgun
jtgun

IF THE CHICKEN IS ALREADY POISONED THEN SO IS THE EGG

abetterlife
abetterlife

1934 Film “The House of Rothschild”
“Hollywood Propaganda That Is All Too Clear Now”

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=10434

ksa711
ksa711

************ Star Child DNA results ********************
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEYqLdupIA

jtgun
jtgun

By next year this time and through the end of 2011 by the sign of the pyramid.We will be in a time what is known as total illumination.What will that mean?That everyone will know who tptb are?And after they know what will they or we do.

merek

Hutz 1:55 AM, say old buddy ,you throw Gods name around like a recent graduate of a fundamentalist bible school ,
Since Jesus told us to go in to the privacy of our rooms to pray it stands to reason that too much preaching and beseeching,besides alienating those on this board of other religeous persuasions, cannot be proved period.
Remember the German Nazi’s belt buckles said
“Gott mit uns” God with us!
this is a board interested in political ,economic, History,science,health and extraterrestial matters,

Our special American history refelects the attempts by religious persecuted, and free thinkers to escape the muderous experiences of old Europe ,those who insist that we are a christian nation fail to understand that many are christians but the government is not and those who insist it is better take a history course or two and not while attending a fundamentalist diploma mill,

Religious freedom means exactly that ,you may practice all forms here but should you try to dominate others with your
particular faith you are contrary to the intent of the founding fathers quest for freedom and independance!

Hutz ,did you ever check out the :
Mystery of Isis and Osiris by the Sybil of Tarquin,
this is the document that John of Patmos plagerized for the book of Revelation we are trying to open up our minds to new realms untaught or undisclosed by the PTB.

Anthropomorphising God Head to conform to ones present beliefs or human qualities is pure superstition, as we can never be sure . So Hutz ,check it out and keep the non religious information that you have uncovered coming and save to religious lectures for Sunday and your house of worship. Thanks for your consideration. .
As It Always Was

jtgun
jtgun

SABBATH IS ON SATURDAY NOT SUNDAY.NO I DO NOT GO TO CHURCH.WORSHIPING JESUS CHRIST ON SUNDAY IS A GRAVE DECEPTION.

paladin
paladin

jt

True, the factory farm prouduced eggs are already poisoned but the “pastuerization” is for free range chicken eggs.

chrisb
chrisb

Larry Becraft, in the below response to the accusation that “a lot of people believe he is a government plant,” scathes Patriot Myth Mongers like Tim Turner for REALLY acting like government plants . Turner encourages people to file maritime liens against judges and others in government to punish them for alleged wrong-doing, and then to sell the bogus liens to foreign investors. Only an idiot would buy such a bogus, uncollectable lien.

Larry attached the excerpt from 121 SAL, an Act of Congress making fraudulent liens against judges punishable by up to 10 years in prison. It also made exposure of restricted information (home contact and phone numbers) for purpose of harm or intimidation about a federal judge a criminal offense.

Of course if you want to encourage others to reveal such info to send the judge a candy-gram or get well card, well you do not violate that law, do you?

My point: same as Larry’s: SHUN PATRIOT MYTH MONGERS – they will con you and cause you loss of property, liberty, and maybe even life.

chrisb
chrisb

Paladin, Foodrules, I am strictly on a virgin olive oil diet. That is all I eat ( or drink I should say). I think it is the only food left that is not detrimental to our health. The dog is still eating the purina crap but their life expectancy is not as long anyhow. I have noticed he blinks alot though.

jtgun
jtgun

I have maybe 30 chickens that for the most part get fed gmo corn so they are already poisoned.Any corn you buy at feed n seed will come from local farmers and will be gmo.Farmers cannot afford to plant regular hybrid or non hybrid it has been phased out.Also yield production is much higher on gmo,which gives reason for planting.

paladin
paladin

Chrisb

I’m not so sure about the olive oil part.

chrisb
chrisb

Paladin, it is virgin olive oil. There’s a difference.

ROAD TO ROOTA
Every morning over the past two weeks I’ve read newspaper articles related to the current take down of the banking cabal. It is very clear that the Good Guys are taking the battle directly to them. As for when they will “break” is any body’s guess but you can expect HUGE FIREWORKS in the weeks ahead.

Here are some examples out of today’s headlines:

Allen Stanford’s Execs Knew He Was Bilking Investors
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/allen-stanfords-execs-kne_n_694394.html

Goldman Sachs Conspiracy Book Hits Bestseller List in China

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/the-goldman-sachs-conspir_n_693696.html

US Judge To Seek HSBC Fraud Reports

http://www.finalternatives.com/node/13594

Failure of Liberal Economic Experiment

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703632304575451613502569320.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Bank Default Swaps Rise On US Housing Slowdown

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/Bank-default-swaps-rise-on-US-housing-slowdown/articleshow/6429681.cms

There are no more engineered rosy comments coming from the Obama “Behavioral Economics” team of Giethner, Summers and Goolsby as they were likely TOLD by the Good Guys to stand down to allow for the collapse.

What’s that famous line from the movie “Rosemary’s Baby”?

This is not a dream…THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING!

Be prepared for anything and follow the TIME LINE for clues.

Bix

patriotkate
patriotkate

I have to agree that I think we are very close to the collapse because of the timing of a few things.

RAP – The only thing I have known about RAP is what I have read that’s posted here and the links to some of the sites who updated RAP information. I was always skeptical, because some things just did not sound right. However, I did try and keep informed on the written posts.

Casper updates – If you can believe Casper,just yesterday he reported finding the 200 Quadrillions secreted away from Cabal and his last comment was this may be his last update with indications it may nearly be over.

Alcuin-Bramerton also reported the Quadrillions found and secreted away, although I’m not sure if that was independent reporting or basing it on Casper.

I wondered if the reason that RAP fell apart is because it was infiltrated by the Cabal and all the “talk” was about the money the Cabal intended to use to finance the completion of their NWO takeover by usurping a Patriot Movement. Therefore, when they reported that the money that was supposed to be there is not.

The timing of these three things over the weekend primarily makes me think that maybe it’s about finally ready to explode.

martha
martha

Patriotkate

I agree with you re “maybe it’s finally ready to explode.”

martha
martha

Ben’s last paragraph this week that the major global news organizations have to report the truth or else be charged with racketeering.

I am seeing that on the internet and magazines..don’t have a TV.

hfloyd
hfloyd

Jt-
you may want to re check the facts on the GMO production statement. That is one of the biggest lies in existence and is pushed by monsanto and their ilk. GMO crops are notorious underachievers in addition to having far fewer nutrients in the resulting crop. This has been proven over and over again, and in fact animals given the choice- will absolutely NEVER eat GMO grains. This particular little science project- literally- was made public and repeated over and over again by numerous grades of school children doing science projects- repeated at the professional level again and the results are the same. By the way those mice/test animals who had no choice but to eat the the GMO grain? they developed numerous forms of cancer and tumors at a much higher rate that should have happened,exhibited lack of energy and became obese- leading to yet more health problems in the test population.
Before Robert Rodale died in the 1990’s- The rodale institute (organic gardening magazine) had projects going in AFrica to help the farmers get better yields from their crops and teach them organic gardening principles. THis is at the time that Monsanto was trying to shove down the throats of the African farmers a special GMO seed that of course would not reproduce true for the farmers to save seed
and its reason for existing was that it was supposed to be drought tolerant.(but needed twice the toxic pesticides) Well- this was proposed in order to sell poor african farmers corn seed at * $1.00 * per seed! The Rodale institute ‘s trial showed the farmers they could use their traditional seed- suited for their environment- and get more yield using organic soil building principles, mulching and water saving techniques.
GMO crops are the worst nightmare ever foisted upon humanity- for no reason other than control and profit.

fixthefuture
fixthefuture
hutz
hutz

[4:25:35 PM] Stephenie Demaree: Call tonight at 9:00 with Dr Livingston

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[4:26:33 PM] Stephenie Demaree: that’s 9:00 pm EST

hutz
hutz

food rules from Skype underground .lots i cant post as it could put people in danger. i must say turner is president .hope Glenn beck announces this.
hutz

hutz
hutz

God bless you merik

hutz
hutz

oh God I am tired.

hutz
hutz

Axing the Bankers’ Money Tree: Homeowners’ Rebellion against Wall Street
Recent Rulings Could Shield 62 Million Homes from Foreclosure

By Ellen Brown

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20688

Global Research, August 19, 2010
webofdebt.com – 2010-08-18

hutz
hutz

MEXICO CITY—Gunmen from a drug cartel appear to have massacred 72 migrants from Central and South America who were on their way to the U.S., a grisly event that marks the single biggest killing in Mexico’s war on organized crime.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703632304575450761550490920.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

chrisb
chrisb

Foodrules…Just the behind the scenes information on Glen Beck is not very encouraging. Some call him a satanist also so I wonder really what is going on but others have made the trip to see Beck from as far away as florida to hear him say nothing. Foodrules, were you hearing good or bad news????? Here we are again in a world of confusion. MK has my address and so does Paladin or Lew but lew is out of touch.

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all,John Mccain has introduced a couple of Senate bills that are interesting,…..S 3002 & S 3081,3002 allows the FED to detain American citizens indefinitely,without trial,more than likely tied into HS & 3081 would allow the FED to regulate all health & natural foods,along with vitamins,supplements,& minerals,…I do not know if this ties in or over rides the S 510 bill proposed,which is quite nasty as well,….Gee I wonder if Monsanto has been lobbying anywhere Mr Mccain,…Peace to all,RCG

chrisb
chrisb

Patriotkate, hope you are right. It’s about time. Still need an explanation from Foodrules. Can you send me that message.

patriotkate
patriotkate

Hutz,
What makes you think that Glenn Beck would be announcing someting to do with RAP or its successor? I’m going to be in D.C. at his event Saturday, so is that what you’re thinking?

I do watch Glenn Beck nearly every day. I don’t watch any of the rest of them anymore. I see lots of negative things about him, but they all come from people who spout what they read that is usually a fabrication of what they presumed he said or did in his show like there isn’t video to dispute their outrageous claims? And, they obviously don’t watch his show, so there’s not credibility to their claims. The comments are not based on watching his show or hearing him on the radio.

I have had my issues with him, just like the rest of the media but we know that they are all controlled. I maintain that the Fox owners had no idea how popular Beck would become and by the time they tried to reign him him, he was too popular and Beck is thus in a better position to call some of the shots. So, he pushes the envelope and exposes all the Communist stuff about Obama, but follows the government lies of 911. I think all of them are under orders to steer clear of 911, the Eligibility issue, things like the supposed FEMA camps. (If you read his book Overton Window, it’s clear he knows much of what all of us know, because much of it is part of the story, including a character that appears to be the real life Alex Jones.)

The service that he has done though it to educate a hungry public about our country’s founding, the history that has been re-written and vital history eliminated – like, we have Black Founders who fought side by side with everyone else in the Revolutionary War. He’s inspired and encouraged the formation of independent 912 groups all over the country that are now doing tremendous good in their local communities. If you are inspiring people to take action, can you be a bad guy?

Did you know that we had a Black Speaker of the House of Representatives in the late 1700’s???? I didn’t until I learned it on Beck’s Black Founding Fathers show.

I think he is mostly a Libertarian and I have a tough time thinking he has evil intentions.He’s done too good a job of helping Americans rediscover their history which is contributing to the grassroots success in changing things.

I’ll be in D.C. on Saturday and will do a report next week.

PK

hutz
hutz

Media Pushes BRAIN Eating Vaccine… Nano Tech Injection Lobotomy LIVE please watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm3PYZ0N7Dg&feature=related
[8:11:49 PM] tweetybird194: U.S. government panel now pushing “vaccinations for all!” No exceptions http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/us-government-panel-now-pushing-vaccinations-for-all-no-exceptions/

hutz
hutz

patriotkate
I agree with you about beck.

hutz
hutz

Brawls at the Fed, as the System Comes Down
August 25, 2010 • 7:15AM
A senior Washington intelligence source reported this morning that a serious fight has erupted inside the Federal Reserve over hyperinflation, and that people close to the Fed are going to be leaking details, which means the fight will intensify and become more public. He added that that fight is now erupting inside this week’s annual Jackson Hole economic summit of the Fed, whose host, Thomas Hoenig of the Kansas City Fed, has publicly dissented from Bernanke’s hyperinflationary decisions at each of the last eight meetings of the Federal Open Market Committee. And indeed, sources at that Jackson Hole gathering report that it is an extremely interesting one, especially its off-the-record discussions.
Lyndon LaRouche responded, “I’m not surprised about the brawl in the Fed; for me it’s not commentary. I know what’s going on. If we don’t get rid of this President, you’re not going to have a country. We’re talking about very short term. I think interpreting events is a mistake, because you’re not interpreting the non-events, or the events which are happening but which are not being reported or not being referred to.”
Returning to this topic, he added, later: “The break actually happened several weeks ago, and what you’re seeing with this Jackson Hole meeting of the Fed, and things like that, is you’re seeing reflections of the fact that anybody on the inside knows, without any statistical mumbo-jumbo, that this system is coming down fast.”
Similarly, today’s Wall St Journal reports that the Aug 10 meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee, whose decision to purchase hundreds of billions of Treasuries was part of the Weimar-hyperinflationary turn in policy that LaRouche had forecast, was the “most contentious” such meeting in “bubbles” Ben Bernanke’s four-plus-year tenure as Chairman. Although Hoenig was the only dissenter on the final vote, the Journal reports that no fewer than seven of the seventeen committee members expressed serious reservations concerning that insane decision.
On Monday, Aug 23, Hoenig testified before a field hearing of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. In his testimony, available at the website of the Kansas City Fed, Hoenig showed that it is the community banks which are still providing credit to American businesses, while the bailed-out Wall Street banks have ceased to do so for practical purposes. But that the great danger to these community banks is the “too-big-to-fail” giants of Wall Street. The Kansas City Fed website also features Hoenig’s address to a Lincoln, Nebraska, Town Hall Meeting of Aug. 13, where he detailed his arguments against Bernanke’s zero-interest rate policy. Sources around the Fed report that Hoenig feels obligated to publicize his opposition the more, because of the large numbers of other opponents who are unable to go public as of now.
Additionally, on Tuesday, Aug. 24, Dallas Federal Reserve President Richard Fisher gave a Fox Business News interview expressing cautious reservations about the Bernanke policies in diplomatic language. Both Hoenig and Fisher are Glass-Steagall supporters who also supported the Sen. Blanche Lincoln efforts to limit bank derivatives trading.
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kohala889
kohala889

Well at least there are a couple of level headed ones at the fed. Actually it might be well if they give Bernanke free rein as that will lead to its demise so much faster.
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Any duck hunters here? Hutz, I know you must be one.
Duck truck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SUOrMKwzSc

g7enn
g7enn

Support Americans not Wars: Gerald Celente – 20 August 2010

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http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

jtgun
jtgun

floyd, im not sure what your asking,the yields on gmo corn are by far greater than non gmo,if you reread my post you will find that i said nothing about gmo being nutritionally better.iknow that isnt true.what i said was it is less expensive to put in the ground and to get to maturity. I understand that it is bad.if it were less yield and more expensive no farmer would use.I know i have both gmo and non gmo in ground now.And have had since gmo corn has been on the market.

foodrules
foodrules

chrisb,
I was just wondering where hutz got that info; if that was his feelings on the subject or someone else’s statement. I am just sitting on the fence watching the wierd world go by. We are part of a peaceful group; who knows what to call ourselves at this point. RAP, no RAP, RAP, no RAP. Not part of Tim Turner’s though; just watching. Glenn Beck doesn’t interest me.

I’m still working on making TB’s. Finally got the resin. Tomorrow I’m going to the thrift shop to get teflon muffin tins and scout for pyramid shape ideas. Those pyramids look just so neat! We have lots of metal filings of different kinds, and copper. I can see how this would be very satisfying to do in one’s community. We have a cell tower in sight of our house. Ugh!

Sorry, chrisb, if you were expecting something profound. I am not a profound person!
~foodrules

wbstreck
wbstreck

Ben and Ya’ALL
What is the Food and Drug Administration for, alerting us that there is a problem,or preventing problems that threaten our food supplies ,medicines, potable water, soil & water contamination, watershed protection, and other health concerns regarding pecticides, herbicides, industrial contaminates, and application by farmers and municipal governments ?????
It seems that big business is far more successful in attaining their objectives , than the consumers and the public concerns and interests regarding these matters.
Do we have any recommendations to give them ?
They have a job to do and they don’t do it very well. Maybe we need to create an health oversight committee to advocate for the citizens,a pro-active defense of human enviormental concerns.
enviormental conflicts of interests

hutz
hutz

Klaatu, Hope, Hope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_sFqlKh4o
Hope

(John Woloschuk)

Hope is like a lighthouse keeper’s beam
Hope the master cobbler of our dreams
For Hope believes in desert streams
The mightiest of stars
The microcosm in a jar
Vast or small they all revolve on Hope

Hope the guardian angel of the dove
Hope a gift of guidance from above
For Hope is the heart in mother’s love
No plans could be conceived
No ships could fare the seas
For there would be no courage were it not for Hope

Now the path before us lies before our very eyes
Don’t you see
And it leads up to the gateway
Lead me through
Don’t you see

Then come and take my hand
Raise up your head
And dry your eyes
For up ahead I see
Woh woh yeah
A ray of peace
A-shining on me

So let us feel Hope
And feel the sunrise in our minds
To give Hope is to enlighten all mankind
Ah but lose Hope and life seems black as blind
When faith gives way to fear
When motivation disappears
All is lost if one abandons Hope
All is lost
If one abandons Hope

hutz
hutz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcgZCXHPkCo
Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognized Anthem of World Contact Day)

(John Woloschuk / Terry Draper)

In your mind you have abilities you know
To telepath messages through the vast unknown
Please close your eyes and concentrate
With every thought you think
Upon the recitation we’re about to sing

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft

You’ve been observing our earth
And we’d like to make a contact with you

We are your friends

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants and interplanetary ultra-emissaries

We’ve been observing your earth
And one night we’ll make a contact with you

We are your friends

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary, quite extraordinary craft

Please come in peace we beseech you
Only a landing will teach them
Our earth may never survive
So do come we beg you
Please interstellar policemen
Won’t you give us a sign
Give us a sign that we’ve reached you

With your mind you have ability to form
And transmit thought energy far beyond the norm
You close your eyes
You concentrate
Together that’s the way
To send the message
We declare World Contact Day

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary craft
Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft

Ahhh

Calling occupants
Calling occupants
Calling occupants
Calling occupants
Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft

hutz
hutz

Carpenters – Calling Occupants Of Enterprise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WZvlCwkYjE&feature=related

hutz
hutz

this totally off topic but i just found this video and i thought it was hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyUxs_Hodn8&feature=sub

hutz
hutz

ALERT – Tim Turner declares he’s President of United States – Restore America Plan RAP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_84eZV-NdPY

hutz
hutz

The Enquirer: Michelle Is Angry At Barack For Going On A Date With Oprah http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/08/25/the-enquirer-michelle-is-angry-at-barack-for-going-on-a-date-with-oprah/

hutz
hutz

The Enquirer: Michelle Is Angry At Barack For Going On A Date With Oprah h
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/08/25/the-enquirer-michelle-is-angry-at-barack-for-going-on-a-date-with-oprah/

hutz
hutz

bama administration indicts America–State Department reports on U.S. human right violations It describes how the United States discriminates against the disabled, homosexuals, women, Native Americans, blacks, Hispanics and those who don’t speak English. There is the expected pandering to Muslims http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/25/obama-administration-indicts-america/

hutz
hutz

This was taken from skype .========================================
tom was the one who lied to Tim about the military. Tom was the liason to the milirary – he is a liar
[12:18:17 AM] bonnie-bernard: bull
[12:18:20 AM] bonnie-bernard: he is a fake
[12:18:29 AM] bonnie-bernard: read the link for the truth
[12:18:38 AM] bonnie-bernard: http://law.onecle.com/constitution/004-historical-note.html
[12:18:52 AM] bonnie-bernard: he has a restraining ordetr on him
[12:19:20 AM] bonnie-bernard: tom is a liar – he stung along tim about the military all this time
[12:19:47 AM] bonnie-bernard: The military won’t work with tom – they are now with tim
[12:20:17 AM] bonnie-bernard: don’t worry – the deception will come out in the wash
[12:20:34 AM] bonnie-bernard: did you listen to /tim’s call?
[12:22:12 AM] bonnie-bernard: Militias are going to get that movement stopped – dangerous

hutz
hutz

taken from skype
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Yesterday I was having one enlightenment after another. I heard God telling/showing me all sorts of things. I finally sat down and put it all on paper and sent Tim an email tonight. Here are some excerpts from that email. . . .for what it’s worth.
1. God showed me that He is absolutely overshadowing and endorsing the Restored American Republic with Tim as our President. He made that super clear.
2. God showed me that He is heavily testing us all right now. He is aware of those that are passing this heavy testing and choosing the Light and staying with it. Many have not passed these tests, and it appears they have made a “Y” in the road, and they are choosing this new path (Livingston, Tom, Regan, etc). He showed me that He is not endorsing or blessing this other path (this path is creating confusion and arguments and dissention, which are not attributes of God).
3. God also showed me that these heavy testings are similar to when Lucifer fell from Heaven and took 1/3 of the heavenly hosts with him (a choice between dark and light . . .a choice between truth and lies). He showed me that, because of these testings, we may lose many people from this path.
4. He showed me that this “house cleaning” so to speak was absolutely necessary Before the funding of the Republic can happen. Those that can pass these tests and remain “calm in the midst of the storms” and stay unwaivered and centered in His Light will be the ones that He wants guiding His Ship, the Republic of America. He said the cream will rise to the top. He made that clear to me.
5. He said this “house cleaning” has to be done now because once the funding comes through, things will start to move very quickly and we can’t have unlighted ones with important titles in important positions. It would be much harder to clean house and get rid of them then. When the funding opens up, God wants those who have passed these tests today and have aligned with His plan to be the ones to carry out His important next steps.
Really, I think God is speaking to all of us right now and telling us all these same things. And those with eyes to see and ears to hear with know it.
He also reminded me of these things from the Bible:

“Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.”

With all the disinformation and attacking going, I think that many are feeling like they are being crucified, but remember that you are in great company!

Another thing God reminded me of too:

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

It’s the road less traveled!! It’s the hardest road to travel, but it brings with it the greatest outcome. Everyone is choosing which road they will travel right now.

hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz
hutz

more from skype
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The real deal is the REAL leadership is continuing to bring this country to Freedom.
America has been restored.
The housecleaning is done. The tree has been pruned.
Many who “were” a part of RAP and left were there for selfish and greedy reasons.
They have been exposed.
Those exposed will even continue to lie and attempt to divide, but it will be a worthless
endeavor. They have fallen.
Those who have chosen the path of division will walk in deception unless they repent and turn from
their evil ways. Their choice.

God cleaned house. The signature of God is all over the house cleaning of RAP.
This had to happen so God could continue His plan and use those who are WHOLE!
Kennedy, Davis, Reegan and Tom had to go because of their own sin.
I and others never heard Kennedy end his prayers in the name of Christ. As for the
others it is pretty easy to see.

It is obvious WHO instigated this division, WHO has chosen to follow those instigators
and WHO on this page continue to create confusion, as confusion is a tool used by satan.
Those on this RAP 1 page who will continue to slander TT are exposed for who they really are.
Those who choose to stay on the fence are useless feeders who have little to no decision making
capabilities. Period. So be it. You have chosen.
Anyone who has chosen to walk in line with leaders who insist martial law is necessary in every state
to restore this republic, or those who believe violence, revenge, and division is the only way to Freedom are
in for a rude awakening.
It is laughable that the ego’s who thought they could destroy RAP and that most
of the juries would follow them have egg on their faces right now.
Reagan and Tom want martial law and think they can create their own plan. It has failed!
Livingston has a devils heart and that is obvious by his own writings here: (thank you Rose)
http://web.archive.org/web/20041211152031/http://untomanynations.faithweb.com/tms-unto4.html
Any person who quotes scripture in one verse and writes the above is a heathen, no matter what the
rest of his site says. It is filled with demonic hate and he is an unfit leader. Not a leader at all.
Livingston is one of the people deeply involved in the separation of RAP and his true colors are shown.
God has exposed him. So be it!
Please read that document. If you still do not see the evil in those words and continue to sit on the mindless fence
then you have scales over your eyes. You cannot see the truth and sometimes GOD will put those scales over
your eyes because your heart is not pure.

The above people and those who pick up disinfo and run with it or those who have blatantly slandered Tim Turner
will probably continue to do so.
The decisions these people make are for who? Ask yourself that question.
Ask yourself WHAT ARE THEIR INTENTIONS? Ask yourself who has a foul mouths. Ask yourself WHO wants
martial law. Friday nights call with Reagan said it all. His words, “mute that “F###$%” Why did he want
that person muted. Perhaps that person was telling the truth.

I know who Tim Turner is, and I know WHO guides him, and I know how much Turner loves this country,
and the light of Christ is all over him.
The office building in place will have a 24 hour prayer team day in and day out to be a witness
and protector of the Republic. That is the America I want.
Now turn your hearts around an repent to our Father in Heaven and lets move on with freeing the enslaved.

hutz
hutz
fixthefuture
fixthefuture
fixthefuture
fixthefuture

“The Jews were now free to indulge in their most fervent fantasies of mass murder of helpless victims. Christians were dragged from their beds, tortured and killed. Some were actually sliced to pieces, bit by bit, while others were branded with hot irons, their eyes poked out to induce unbearable pain. Others were placed in boxes with only their heads, hands and legs sticking out. Then hungry rats were placed in the boxes to gnaw upon their bodies. Some were nailed to the ceiling by their fingers or by their feet, and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and hot lead poured into their mouths. Many were tied to horses and dragged through the streets of the city, while Jewish mobs attacked them with rocks and kicked them to death. Christian mothers were taken to the public square and their babies snatched from their arms. A red Jewish terrorist would take the baby, hold it by the feet, head downward and demand that the Christian mother deny Christ. If she would not, he would toss the baby into the air, and another member of the mob would rush forward and catch it on the tip of his bayonet.
Pregnant Christian women were chained to trees and their babies cut out of their bodies. There were many places of public execution in Russia during the days of the revolution, one of which was described by the American Rohrbach Commission: ‘The whole cement floor of the execution hall of the Jewish Cheka of Kiev was flooded with blood; it formed a level of several inches. It was a horrible mixture of blood, brains and pieces of skull. All the walls were bespattered with blood. Pieces of brains and of scalps were sticking to them. A gutter of 25 centimeters wide by 25 centimeters deep and about 10 meters long was along its length full to the top with blood.
Some bodies were disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were literally hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out, the head, face and neck and trunk were covered with deep wounds. Further on, we found a corpse with a wedge driven into its chest. Some had no tongues. In a corner we discovered a quantity of dismembered arms and legs belonging to no bodies that we could locate.'” (Defender Magazine, October 1933).

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
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“It is legitimate to adopt a critical attitude toward the relatively large number of Jews who particularly in the first decade after the Bolshevik revolution collaborated with the Soviet Government in the persecution of other peoples.”
Statement of researcher Michael Mills, an official of the government of Australia at Canberra. (Source: Forward, March 10, 2000)

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Robert Wilton, a long time Russia correspondent for the London Times, said in his book The Last Days of the Romanovs “According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State . . .there were in 1918-1919: 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Lets, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 2 Poles, 2 Finns, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews.
As the decades past by–after the fateful year 1917–Judaized Khazars kept a firm hand on the helm of the government in the occupied land of Russia. In due time they built a bureaucracy to their heart’s desire.”
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“The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144).

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The American Hebrew September 10, 1920 “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Entered the door at 255 comments with the last post from hutz 8/26 @ 1:50PM. Clarification to follow on why I do this, hutz. Not doing it to irritate or ruffle anyone’s feathers. I could say or do worse things, but what for, who would I be impressing?
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rcg335 on 8/26 @ 9:56AM

That’s what I heard, too, and if not mistaken it was the President who made that info known on one of his public announcements. I passed that frightening plan info as soon as I heard it to a colleague. I presently work for the Judiciary where I calendar the arrestee (not that I’ll be around to continue the practice). They really are planning to do it? That’s troubling, their thinking, but that’s alright I don’t mind, the StarChild might work out better the way things are today.

As I understand it, the purpose is for the possibility the arrestee will be a ‘trouble maker’ in the ‘future’ and note it’s targeting Americans. American-American, Japanese-American, Samoan-American, American Indian, Chinese-American, Hispanic-American, etc, etc?

First, it was designed for a moratorium of 10 years, now it’s indefinite? Not too-good-a-looking and frightening.
Oh, to be certain, sinister plans are in the ‘hopper’. Sounds like something big is planned to take care of ‘trouble makers’. You no longer have to be a criminal or civil disobeyer? Let’s just take care of ‘all-of-the-above’? Geez, Somebody really has a serious problem, must be getting night time visitors or suffering paranoia for all-of-the-above. Well, what can we say, they did it to themselves, creation without proper authority or validation.
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ksa711 on 8/26 @ 2:47AM

A breakthrough in DNA for sure, but…

Question:
1. If that is true, why did it take place, the creation of the StarChild?
2. What’s the purpose?
3. The aliens are in trouble?
4. Something happened to them in outer space and they want back on Mother Earth?
5. Is this what de-population is really all about, to make room for their return?
6. How about aliens taking over the prison system when the ‘really’ bad eggs get arrested? They don’t need the money for operations. They seem to have done well without it all this time. Big government savings here, big time.
6. Next?

Just my thoughts, inconclusive.
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hutz on 8/26 @ 2:11AM

Finally, hutz, my clarification in case your comment is about my comment on the matter.

Reporting the ‘number’ of comments indicates:
1. How many there were since the last time I entered the forum.
2. Who was the last to post when I return.
3. BECAUSE one like myself, can and does get lost going through the maze of postings when I am not at the forum 9 to 5. What went on today? Where do I begin to read AND comment? Well, it was hutz, etc, etc..

Don’t stop on my ‘account’. I’ll continue to give ‘credit’ where ‘credit’ is due, keep it for my purpose.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

Pieter de Waard
Pieter de Waard

Is this Casper guy talking about 200 quadrillion dollars??? 1 quadrillion = 1000 trillion = 1.000.000 billion, lets do some calculation: there are almost 7 billion people on this planet, 200 quadrillion would mean about 30 million dollar for EACH person on this planet. That is laughable, it would make the dollar totally worthless. For me this proves Casper and all others who confirm this are a hoax.

rklnrman
rklnrman

pieterdewaard

Apparently Ben F confirms that those numbers are being discussed by the Fed, as a demonstration of the ridiculousness
of the panic in the Fed.

Pieter de Waard
Pieter de Waard

Ben was mentioning trillions, not quadrillions. And trillions could be real, although these numbers, as you say, are already ridiculous. But guys talking about quadrillions?? It is the same as with Nesara, the stories become more and more crazy, until anybody should be able to see that we are dealing with a hoax. Or are people still waiting for their packages? Perhaps there is a quadrillion hidden in it… Lew, no truth testing needed on this one.

greetings, Pieter

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all,…From the CLG website,(citizens for a legitimite government) It seems that the CIA paid for the entire Afgan spy service budget from the years of 2002 – 2009,…well at least we know where some of the ” missing ” billions that were lost during these stupid wars went…..Peace to all,RCG

fixthefuture
fixthefuture
fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Hour 3 – From Tokyo – Benjamin Fulford

g7enn
g7enn

Alex Jones Tv: Beck Listener Calls Alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZkFyB0zhw

Glenn Beck is a Neocon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6C6E6ayh4U

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

The World According to Gordon Duff
by Peter B. Collins on August 24, 2010

PBC Podcast 167 [1:13:32m]: Download
Gordon Duff, senior editor at Veterans Today, offers a sweeping view of America’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the WikiLeaks saga, and the events of 9/11. Duff, a Marine veteran of Viet Nam, claims intelligence sources worldwide, especially in Pakistan. He asserts that most events called “terrorism” are false flag events, that Israel’s Mossad is in control of much of the disinformation in circulation today, that bin Laden has been dead for years, that all top officials of the Federal Reserve are dual citizens with “Israeli passports in their dresser drawers next to the marijuana”, that North Korea’s submarines and the nuke they tested came from Israel, and that the WikiLeaks leaks were orchestrated in Tel Aviv. He also has a very different view of Pakistan’s ISI and the insurgents lumped together as the “Taliban”. Duff is an amiable man whose rambling narrative is loaded with information that can’t be proved or disproved by those of us without security clearances, yet his worldview is fascinating and very different from corporate media reports and “conventional wisdom”.

http://peterbcollins.com/podpress_trac/web/3027/0/PBC_20100824p167.mp3

ISRAELI DUAL CITIZENS RUN AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

The World According to Gordon Duff
by Peter B. Collins on August 24, 2010

PBC Podcast 167 [1:13:32m]: Download
Gordon Duff, senior editor at Veterans Today

ILLUMINATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://peterbcollins.com/2010/08/24/the-world-according-to-gordon-duff/

http://peterbcollins.com/podpress_trac/web/3027/0/PBC_20100824p167.mp3

merek

For All,
McCain is a stooge for Big pharma and the attempted implementer of a bill to completely destroy Habeas Corpus.

Column by Dr. Chuck Baldwin , Resources Video Sermons Posted on Aug 24, 2010 John McCain’s Attack On Liberty
Categories: Archived Columns, Columns by Chuck Baldwin
Anyone paying attention knows that John McCain has been a Big-Government Globalist Neocon (BGGN) for virtually his entire senatorial career. As with many BGGNs hiding out in the Republican Party, McCain likes to talk about smaller government, but his track record is littered with the promotion of one big government program after another. But, what else would one expect from a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)?

Lately, however, McCain has outdone himself. He has introduced two bills in the US Senate that are about as Machiavellian as they could be. I am referring to S.3081, a bill that would authorize the federal government to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial, and S.3002, a bill that would authorize the federal government to regulate vitamins, minerals, and virtually all health and natural food products.

According to Examiner.com, “John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime.”

The Examiner report continued by saying “This bill, introduced by McCain, who despite overwhelming evidence, claims to be a ‘conservative,’ would not only take away our right to a trial, but would also allow the federal government to arrest and imprison anyone the current administration deems hostile.

“Of course, that would be the same administration whose Homeland Security Secretary has classified veterans, retired law enforcement, Ron Paul [and Chuck Baldwin] supporters, and conservatives as ‘terrorists.’”

The Examiner report concluded by saying “If it was not clear before, it should be now that John McCain has as little respect for the Constitution as he does for our borders.”

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi BEN and You ALL

” Integrity is the Hallmark of a Man ”

My favorite commentators are Ben Fulford foe geo-political, Jeff Rense is a fine man too. I respect Do’s comments on RAP as being the best source out there ‘for trying to get us the real skinny’ on the RAP movement.
We have some stright shooters on this blog; I don’t have to give names, Ya’All know who they are.
I try to stick with the geo-political arena, as it is closest to home. And I am a Secured Christian ,but I am tolerant of ohers and their beleifs, as this country has always proffered, tolerance.
God Bless us as we seek our freedom from the cabal.

hfloyd
hfloyd

JT-

Here is only one link for the moment – referenced and footnoted- of research data ( there is quite a lot more information) directly dealing with the failed promises of “GMO high yields”.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GMcropsfailed.php

[In summary, yield losses, not yield gains, are more commonly associated with transgenic crops compared to best available conventionally-bred cultivars and hybrids [8].]

I have client is on the way in- if you need more links later they can be posted. You can do the research yourself too. In my own experience- empirical data of course- I have SEEN during the time that I worked with a large agricultural equipment company the huge differences between GMO corn and a traditional corn planted by the Amish farmers- and the traditional beats the GMO hands down in each of these cases for yield.

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Comment by wbstreck on August 27, 2010 @ 1:33 am

AGREED 🙂

LISTEN TO THE GORDON DUFF MP3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hutz
hutz

Environmental Disaster in the Gulf. How Has it Come to This?
Thousands of lives devastated

By Dahr Jamail and Erika Blumenfeld

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20737

wbstreck
wbstreck

Sorry Not (Do’s) POPS from texas !

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Things must be going badly for the cabal. If you go to alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com, you will find that a cable from Hillary Clinton to Israel urging an attack on Iran and Venezuela by Israel is up on cryptome now. The many exposures of these sorts of plots along with the fact that their control is shredding as their access to money fails, means that if they have any sense, they will start running BEFORE THEY BEGIN TO BE CHASED.

I have said many many times that the USA will begin to fail financially and then the communities within it will begin to rebuild it. Those that are holding power now cannot keep that power when their secrets are exposed.

If you read about the fall of the Soviet Union, the key signs of failure are: the collapse of services at the county and state level; freeing of prisoners because the prisons can no longer afford to feed them, the closing of schoools, the collapse of federal services and the beginning of the military failure. Military failure is preceded by supply problems within the military, These are associated with transport problems etc.

READ THE STORY BELOW. IT FOLLOWS ON THE HEELS OF LAYOFFS of federal, state and county employees everywhere. The reason that the banksters are urging the creation of a central currency etc. is so that they can track the money being stolen by corrupt government officials around the world. The problem is that a single currency will EXACERBATE THE CURRENT PROBLEMS TREMENDOUSLY.

The PTW and their offworld controllers FEED ON FEAR. Stop being afraid and worrying. Create a more positive reality in your mind for everybody’s benefit.

MK

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/24/army-weak-soldiers-expose-deployment-of-unprepared-troops/

Army Weak: Soldiers Expose Deployment of Unprepared Troops

August 24, 2010 posted by Robert L. Hanafin · 15 Comments

Veterans Today was contacted by the author of this article, Clare Bayard, which was originally Published on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 by CommonDreams.org. Clare asked us to help disseminate this expose of unprepared troops still being deployed into the war zones of occupied Iraq and Afghanistan for Obama’s Wars.

It is related to my previous article posted on behalf of Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) The Iraq War – It’s Not Really Over.

Robert L. Hanafin, Major, U.S. Air Force-Retired, GS-14, U.S. Civil Service Retired, Editorial Board Member, Veterans Today News Network

Army Weak: Soldiers Expose Deployment of Unprepared Troops, by Clare Bayard

Published on August 11, 2010 by CommonDreams.org

Army Reserve members facing imminent deployment to Afghanistan are publicly charging that their company is not properly trained or mentally fit for battle. Several members of the Indiana-based 656th Transportation Company, which was due to activate last Sunday, August 22nd, requested a Congressional inquiry into the unit’s lack of readiness. Alejandro Villatoro, a sergeant in the company, is amongst those coming forward.

Sergeant Villatoro says, “The main reason I am doing this is that I want people to know the lack of training and education our soldiers been receiving, and the focus on the mission is just not adequate to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people. All I am asking is more time to reevaluate the training and mental health of these soldiers before sending them into war.”

At risk to themselves, these soldiers are going public with firsthand experiences of failures in military training, mental healthcare, and leadership, which many veterans charge are problems endemic to the military. This comes as the Afghanistan War falls under increased scrutiny in the wake of the Wikileaked “War Logs” information.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Now is the time to email your Congressmen and Senators and demand that things like the McCain control bills and the attempts to begin wars to disguise the mess that these clowns have made of our country and the world are completely unacceptable.

Send them a really scary message by voting for any non-incumbents that you can in the upcoming elections.

MK

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from cryptome.org

Twin Threats: Coordinating Regime Change in Iran and Venezuela

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P R 081621Z AUG 10
FM SECSTATE WASHDC
TO AMEMBASSY TEL AVIV IMMEDIATE 9798

T O P S E C R E T WASHDC

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/08/2020

TAGS: MARR, MASS, MCAP, MNUC, MOPS, PBTS, PGOV, PHUM, PINR, PINS, PNAT, PREF,
PREL, PROP US IS IR CO CS VE
SUBJECT: TWIN THREATS: COODINATING REGIME CHANGE IN IRAN AND VENEZUELA

Classified By: SECSTATE HILLARY R. CLINTON FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) (C) AND (D)

1. (TS) THIS IS AN ACTION CABLE. PLEASE SEE PARAGRAPH 6.

2. (TS) THERE IS SOLID BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS THAT THE IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT IRAN BUILD AND DEPLOY NUCLEAR WEAPONS, THAT IRAN IS SEEKING THE CAPABILITY TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THE MEANS TO USE THEM, THAT THE PRESENT REGIME IN IRAN POSES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO ISRAEL, AND THEREFORE THAT ISRAEL WOULD BE JUSTIFIED IN MILITARILY PREEMPTING THE ACQUISITION AND DEPLOYMENT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS BY IRAN.

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

Here is a video that everybody worried about medicine’s agenda that you NEED TO WATCH AND THINK ABout. It is time to discard the systems provided to us for managing our world. THIS MEANS CAPITALISM AND SOCIALISM. Both were invented by banksters and both have little regard for individuals and serve to protect the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqmeB6GB25Q
A former pharmeceutical rep speaks about about the industry

As long as MONEY and PROFITS are the measures by which systems are evaluated and not the quality of the life of the people then there will be no freedom, no happiness and no fairness.

MK

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Comment by mk2009 on August 27, 2010 @ 2:34 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqmeB6GB25Q
A former pharmeceutical rep speaks about about the industry

ISRAELI MONSANTO ISRAELI MONSANTO
ISRAELI MONSANTO ISRAELI MONSANTO
ISRAELI MONSANTO ISRAELI MONSANTO
ISRAELI MONSANTO ISRAELI MONSANTO

MASS FAMINE AGENDA MOVING FORWARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

patriotkate
patriotkate

Interesting new story over at What does it Mean?

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all, In the EU Times,there are a couple of interesting articles,…First is that the US house & Senate are introducing bills,called the Auto IRA bills,I believe,supposedly voluntary at first,the becoming mandatory & of course then percentages will be increased there after, EU also has a piece of Ron Paul running for Pres in 2012,….And finally,the Bosnian Pryamids,the worlds largest & oldest,with most of the research experts there stating the ages range from 12,000 to 26,000 years….As you start down the yellow brick road & really ” look ” at all the fields of poppy,it’s amazing of what’s really there & what you’ve been ” told “……Peace to all,RCG

merek

Fix the Future regarding 3:23pm: The Marxist Bolshevic Khazara
insiders were guilty of mass genocide, they from 1916 on
were guilty of the murders of the Kulaks( rural farmers)
all Orthodox Christians, millions died ,Far more than the numbers of Jews murdered by Hitler.
the Khazara Soviet insiders fled the failing Soviet Union,
the bulk of them arrived in Israel since the 1960tys.
their policies regarding the Palistinian mirror their
soviet techniques of ethnic clensing.
If Hilliary’s cable is for real expect a Isreali strike
soon ,this will cause chaos, American military losses and unite the Muslim world by firestorm..
We must discourage further warfare as besides being aggressive and against international law, these Neo Con dual loyalists must be restrained.Our military is too spread out and financially, we can’t expect China to buy the bonds nessessary to finance another unjustified war this time against Persia!
60 % of Israelis are wanting peace and settlement, these numbers are more like 90% of non governmental Americans.
the truth is that Iran has a large standing Army, and it could destroy Israel if it came up with nuke equiped long range missles secretly,maybe a couple on loan from the Paki’s or elsewhere. They would however not first strike
as They know that their destruction would nearly be complete. It is left to us to demand peace talks and an end to ethnic clensing, Striking the just completed Reactor, now brought on line would create another Chernobyle.
We cannot do this over a future unrealized possible threat.
Our fleet in the Gulf of Aquaba would be terribily hurt by the Iranian Sunburn cruise missles, for all of us this is a no win situation.

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all once again,There was something I read this morning which,If not RAP then, hopefully some other new Republic gets into place,we need to have legislation in place where as every new, damn bill put forth by representatives,not be 1200 plus pages long.Jeez,what I’ve read was the Democratics & probably both parties,have ” Speed Readers “,go over these documents,because isn’t enough time for these folks to go over it.Well,you would think that the people you/we voted into office,would ” Actually ” read the damn things they’re signing off on.These are LAWS they voting on,it ain’t like watching a TV movie & doing the book report for school.You gotta read the book,…..Peace to all, RCG

valtony
valtony

lew,

What do you think of the 200 quadrillion?

Love

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hooray for Pres. Andrew Jackson. The epitaph he wanted on his tombstone reads proudly ” I killed the Bank” meaning the Federal Reserve Bank. He was wiser than most presidents of this country.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1400.htm

patriotkate
patriotkate

Yep, Andrew Jackson was a man of principle. He is also the ONLY President of the country to leave office and the country was completely debt free!

wbstreck
wbstreck

ALERT FOR BIX WEIR : Bix Weir, What do you advise that anyone that has an IRA,or, 401K do ???; And When ?
SE uplink below. please.
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/08/us-said-preparing-new-laws-to-seize-americans-retirement-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-15202

jtgun
jtgun

floyd,first hand in the field in the carolinas and my first hand for 8 years shows different.Paper studies dont interest me.gmo is bad for you ,i know that.i have planted now on river bottom ,will start harvesting saturday.GMO AND REGULAR HYBRID.

hutz
hutz

Restore America Plan & New Movement – Update 8/26/10

Executive Summary – We are trying to figure out what is up with RAP and the Republic of the united States as well as the new movement. We have dug deeper and heard from quite a few people. Still a bit sketchy but getting a bit clearer. We will do this by topic:

Who Left Who? – Well it seems Tim Turner is still president and Regan and Tom pulled out and Tim pulled away from them, or just Tim pulled from them?? Go figure. Not really worth a lot of time to get the clarity, they are not together anymore is what is important.

Reconciliation – We are being made aware of serious reconciliation efforts with the RAP and former RAP people. Gosh we hope they reconcile.

What Regan says Tim did Wrong? – He says Tim was supposed to occupy the offices secretly in case the de facto government caved in, not to publicize them and form a Republic. Regan said Tim said he was in contact with something like 80 nations when he was in discussions with private people from 80 nations.
This was not what the military wanted and caused the feds to ask questions many times of Regan and Tom. This was something Tim did on his own and was causing problems. We are hearing Tim said the military was in favor of what he did? Regan did say they were being protected by the military. So why the Feds. My take was they wanted to know what was up and they asked Regan. It started to look like an alliance was being formed internationally to toss out the de facto government. Military said they were not going to back such a plan with these public offices according to Regan. Read below for more explanations. This means Regan and Tom who we believe had the original military support are saying the military was not on board with the Republic and the offices being filled as RAP did it. No military, no RAP. Kennedy also inserted time limits on the declarations served to the governors on his own without blessings of anyone else according to Regan. Mechanically speaking we do not understand this unless Kennedy mailed or sent by fed ex the declarations to the governors. Perhaps he contracted with process servers to do the delivery? Kennedy went off on his own thing in name of RAP, something like this for lack of better phraseology. Tom and Regan wanted to negate these offices in that they said it was causing ABC issues.

Military Idea of How it Should Go? – According to Regan they wanted the state militias to be formed and activated. They feel that only the state militias can have tribunals. The military intends to place itself under the state militias. They say that since we are under military rule or law now (remember gold fringed flag) this is the only way to get where we want to go.

Military Tribunals – (taken from Wikipedia) A military tribunal is a kind of military court designed to try members of enemy forces during wartime, operating outside the scope of conventional criminal and civil proceedings. The judges are military officers and fulfill the role of jurors. Military tribunals are distinct from courts-martial. A military tribunal is an inquisitorial system based on charges brought by a military authorities, prosecuted by a military authority, judged by military officers, and sentenced by military officers against a member of an adversarial force. I guess they view some of the de facto govt as enemies, imagine that!!! George Washington did use military tribunals when fighting against the British. So that is why as best as we can determine. We are as of recent being told the Constitution is not properly ratified to date. This we are digging into as best and as fast as we can. What a web the de facto weaves.

Militia – The militias are mentioned in the second amendment but this has not yet been ratified correctly, so we are now being told by Livingston? Well in the 1753 (circa) Washington was active in the Virginia state militia. Now we should look at the Continental Army which was used to fight the British. Again using wikipedia.
The American Continental Army was an army formed after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War by the colonies that became the United States of America. Established by a resolution of the Continental Congress on June 14, 1775, it was created to coordinate the military efforts of the Thirteen Colonies in their revolt against the rule of Great Britain. The Continental Army was supplemented by local militias and other troops that remained under control of the individual states. General George Washington was the Commander-in-Chief of the army throughout the war. Most of the Continental Army was disbanded in 1783 after the Treaty of Paris ended the war. The remaining units possibly formed the nucleus of what was to become the United States Army. The militia has deep roots in our history and is mentioned strongly in the constitution that Ben Franklin signed.
Constitution Never Properly Ratified – Regan was saying that the constitution was never correctly ratified back in Ben Franklin day. There was a de facto constitution later on. There is no de jure government possible today because of this??? There are also no correct republics as a result, just de facto states as corporations, like the federal corporation.??? We need to study Dale Livingston on this and are trying to find the time as well as his written material. If anyone has any written material that Livingston wrote please make us aware of it so we can spread it to our readers. We know about the torture article. Until we study more we are going to assume Regan and Tom understand it. These are not idiots foreign to the constitution so I will go with them for now. Livingston will be generating some documentation shortly I expect.
Funding – Regan indicated that he saw no evidence of any funding in place.
The New Plan – They seem willing to work with RAP people if they are willing. Remember they are saying the military is not going to run with the Republic of the united States with the offices filled as such. This plan is not RAP or the Republic of the united States as per RAP. They intend to raise state assemblies. This is going to be open signup with all documents out in the open. Many people can join the respective state assemblies. There will be some paperwork. The state assemblies will elect some sort of coordinators. One of the first things they will do is ratify the constitution, the one Ben Franklin signed. This gives a valid constitution, de jure if you will. Next they will appoint state militias leaders and assumably militia. Then the military will submit to these militias. Tribunals will be formed and military tribunal trials held or else why would the military say only the state militias can hold tribunals. This should be short and sweet. Why else mention only the state militias can hold tribunals if you did not expect this and this is what the military said. I guess they need a vehicle to quiet the de facto government. I expect the correct de jure courts and county grand juries follow. There is much about the plan we need to know and should know a lot more in a few days.
Is the Militia a Violent Solution – Folks get this one down please. The military is as violent as the state militias, got it. The military is such an awesome force it is assumed that there would be no resistance to it. The military proper is looking for a lawful way to submit to civil authority and be useful and they feel the state militias are the way to go since we are under military rule now. The militias are no more violent that the RAP plan with military support actually practically the same thing. Think about this. Any plan without any teeth behind is going to fail. Look back at how many plans did over the last 25 years.
What About Tim Turner, RAP, Republic of the united States – We need to hear from Turner. An official statement is needed. Their credibility is very down and it appears this could be fatal for them. Three of the four guardian elders are out and so forth. Nothing Turner ever said came to pass. There is secrecy. We basically know nothing. I would encourage Tim Turner to make a formal statement and provide facts. The secrecy will finish RAP off otherwise.
What to Do? – My take is let’s see what Regan and Tom are up to and read their plan which should be any day. Then we can all go from there. Remember it is going to be open. We care about a fast, effective constitutional solution only. We do not play favorites. We are aware of the fact that the de facto might try to send up down a rabbit trail so we waste time while they tighten their grip and bring more doom and gloom on we the people. Remember there are probably only 200 to 300 of them running the de facto show, perhaps less.
Radio Shows – We are gearing up to do radio shows on the new movement. Coming in a few days as soon as we have some meat to chew on, think documents on the plan, etc. We will have expert speakers as well. If you wish to be notified of the talk shows when they start on the internet send us an email: talkshow@p​anamalaw.o​rg
We welcome hearing from people knowledgable in these constitutional matters, militia, second amendment, etc to appear as guests on our show. We hope many groups can come together as one and stand united. If interested drop us an email.
Forum – We have a moderated forum. We have a new forum category for the plan.
http://for​um.panamal​aw.org/
Please feel free to sign up now for the forum, sign up is required with just any old email address. We will tolerate any and all bashing and attacking of IDEAS and CONCEPTS only. No people bashing. Attack the legal position for instance, not the person. We cannot have a positive exchange of ideas without bashing but bashing ideas is ok, people bashing isn’t. Clear enough.
What is Panama Legal’s Role – We intend to bring you the movement news and any pertinent legal analysis as fast and as accurately as possible. We will provide forums and radio internet talk shows. We have been accused of being RAP shills. Obviously we would be really bad shills. We love the RAP folks and think they made a valiant effort. Thanks to them this new effort will grow like wildfire and spread just as fast. If a reconciliation can be effected better yet. We need to be one movement. Something has to be done and fast this we all know and agree on. We hope we will be contributing to the movement with life, liberty and freedom for all concerned. In passing we will support any and all viable lawful movements aimed towards a constitutional republic. If you are involved in another such movement we want to hear from you too, forum categories are available. Remember the new movement is going to merge as many movements together as possible. We expect this train to move out of the station a little slow but very soon will be chugging along fast. We are going to try to keep you all updated and provide a vehicle for information exchange, opinions and updates.

hutz
hutz

MK i think the time to mail congresman and senators is past.

hutz
hutz

i am not sure wash dc will listen to hague, may just say not lawful dfocument and tie it up or get it kicked
[4:57:04 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: the de facto talking heads talk about problems but no solutions so you think resistance is futile
[4:57:17 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: this is their common theread whereas we dwell on solutions mostly
[4:57:44 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: i would not rely on de facto international hague
[4:57:55 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: who would enforce hague order anyway
[4:58:03 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: good to file it but do not expect much
[4:58:18 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: rodney dale serves we the people in this unique way and that is goodf
[4:58:23 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: he is vital

hutz
hutz

[5:20:27 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: http://www.restoreamericaspiritually.com/
[5:20:44 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: fairly radical christianity but biblical at samne time

hutz
hutz

Thursday, August 26, 2010
Crop Circles 2009 – 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VaqYI8jsY

hutz
hutz

[5:35:08 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: if you read our website
[5:35:12 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: http://www.panamalw.org
[5:35:20 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: http://www.panamalaw.org
[5:35:29 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: would be hard to believe we were part of usa

hutz
hutz

A TIME FOR OPENING

August 26, 2010

I believe the Lord is indicating by His Spirit that we have entered a window of time for things TO BE OPENED to us! By faith, we are to proclaim “opening” to circumstances, finances, understanding, eyes, ears, and even wombs.

Isaiah 61:1 – “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted; He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to PROCLAIM liberty to captives, and OPENING to prisoners…”

Here are some of the areas that I feel the Lord has released grace for opening:

OPENING OF EYES TO SEE, both naturally and spiritually (Matt.9:29,30)
OPENING OF UNDERSTANDING (Luke 24:45)
OPENING OF GATES/TREASURES (Isa.45:1-3)
OPENING OF WINDOWS OF HEAVEN TO POUR OUT BLESSINGS (Mal.3:10)
OPENING OF DOORS WHEN WE KNOCK (Luke 11:10)
OPENING OF DOOR IN HEAVEN TO REVEAL THINGS TO COME (Rev.4:1)
OPENING OF EARS TO HEAR, both naturally and spiritually (Matt.13:16)
OPENING OF WOMBS, both naturally and spiritually (Gen.29:31; Gen.30:22)
OPENING OF THAT WHICH IS BLOCKED WITH THE KEY OF DAVID(Isa.22:22;Rev.3:7)

Nugget of Gold: Proclaim opening to that which has been closed! Receive your opening by faith, knowing that God is for you and that He has ordained this window of time for the manifestation of your promises.

Lord, may You confirm Your word, granting that signs and wonders be done in our midst!

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

http://www.panamalaw.org/restore_america_plan_update_08-23-10.html

comments , input please 🙂 🙂

http://republicoftheunitedstates.org/node/2
anybody else sign up ??

( ignore the trolls , including (IDF/ADL) trolls

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

According to data gathered by market research firm SNL Kagan, cable companies saw a noticeable drop in the total number of subscribers during the second quarter of 2010, a first for an industry that has thus far seen nothing but growth.

The number of cable subscribers dropped by 711,000, according to SNL Kagan, with six out of eight cable providers reporting their worst quarterly subscriber losses to date. Other parts of the industry were able to add just enough subscribers to make the net loss more like 216,000. Cable’s share of the pay-TV market dropped slightly too, from 63.6 percent to just 61 percent during the quarter.

CANCEL YOUR CABLE/SATELLITE T.V.
DON’T FEED THE BEAST !!! 🙂 🙂

okumurals
okumurals

fixthefuture

“The World According to Gordon Duff
by Peter B. Collins on August 24, 2010”

Finally somebody is talking without fear about the actual situation we are in.

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Gordon Duff is THE MAN 🙂 🙂

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

http://republicbroadcasting.org/archives
THE PIPER REPORT
Archived Shows in August of 2010 –

“If they’re going to keep people from building Mosques, then it’s time to fight the construction of synagogues!”
MONDAY, AUGUST 23, 2010
MP3 Files: Hour 1
Playlist Files: PLS M3U
Guest: Ray Goodwin
Mike is joined this evening by Ray Goodwin. Ray is on to tell some rather charming but allbeit curious stories about a real patriot.
FRIDAY, AUGUST 20, 2010
MP3 Files: Hour 1
Playlist Files: PLS M3U
Mike is live tonight and taking some calls while telling some stories.
THURSDAY, AUGUST 19, 2010
MP3 Files: Hour 1
Playlist Files: PLS M3U
Mike’s on live tonight and he’s talking at first about theoretical jewery. He invites an exciting caller as well to talk about misconception of british rule and their power. Mike also talks briefly about Christopher Bolynn.

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18, 2010
MP3 Files: Hour 1
Playlist Files: PLS M3U
Mike discusses his opinion on how he is not an anti-semite.
FRIDAY, AUGUST 13, 2010

Mike is live tonight and he’s talking in detail about the Kennedy Assassination.

hutz
hutz

esterday I was having one enlightenment after another. I heard God telling/showing me all sorts of things. I finally sat down and put it all on paper and sent Tim an email tonight. Here are some excerpts from that email. . . .for what it’s worth.
1. God showed me that He is absolutely overshadowing and endorsing the Restored American Republic with Tim as our President. He made that super clear.
2. God showed me that He is heavily testing us all right now. He is aware of those that are passing this heavy testing and choosing the Light and staying with it. Many have not passed these tests, and it appears they have made a “Y” in the road, and they are choosing this new path (Livingston, Tom, Regan, etc). He showed me that He is not endorsing or blessing this other path (this path is creating confusion and arguments and dissention, which are not attributes of God).
3. God also showed me that these heavy testings are similar to when Lucifer fell from Heaven and took 1/3 of the heavenly hosts with him (a choice between dark and light . . .a choice between truth and lies). He showed me that, because of these testings, we may lose many people from this path.
4. He showed me that this “house cleaning” so to speak was absolutely necessary Before the funding of the Republic can happen. Those that can pass these tests and remain “calm in the midst of the storms” and stay unwaivered and centered in His Light will be the ones that He wants guiding His Ship, the Republic of America. He said the cream will rise to the top. He made that clear to me.
5. He said this “house cleaning” has to be done now because once the funding comes through, things will start to move very quickly and we can’t have unlighted ones with important titles in important positions. It would be much harder to clean house and get rid of them then. When the funding opens up, God wants those who have passed these tests today and have aligned with His plan to be the ones to carry out His important next steps.
Really, I think God is speaking to all of us right now and telling us all these same things. And those with eyes to see and ears to hear with know it.
He also reminded me of these things from the Bible:

“Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.”

With all the disinformation and attacking going, I think that many are feeling like they are being crucified, but remember that you are in great company!

Another thing God reminded me of too:

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

It’s the road less traveled!! It’s the hardest road to travel, but it brings with it the greatest outcome. Everyone is choosing which road they will travel right now.

hutz
hutz
martha
martha

Wonder why the US is being compared to Communist Russia so often now …but never to fascist Germany. Is it because when Hitler was in power and invading other countries to loot and steal the people were white? We are invading other countries to loot and steal and the people are brown and Asian. That kinda’ fits with the mentality of the fascist Germans of that day. That some races are just superior.

We fought Mexico and stole the very states that are having the so called problem with immigration. In actuality , we stole that land when WE came over Europe .

hutz
hutz

Meric .Sorry but I do not compromise my faith because your words came up on my computer.
Also
1. I DO NOT DEBATE

2. YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO LAY DOWN RULES .

3. YOU SUPPORTED THE TROLL WE HAD IN HERE

LASTLY PLEASE DO NOT ADDRESS ME AND I WILL NOT ADDRESS YOU.

THIS MAKES ME HAPPY AND BELIEVE ONLY GOOD FOR THE REPUBLIC CAN COME OF IT .

LIVE IN THE PAST IF YOU MUST JUST DONT DRAG ME DOWN .
THIS MAKE ME VERY HAPPY

LOVE – PEACE -AND LIGHT GUIDE YOUR WAY .
GET READY GOOD PEOPLE OF THE EARTH CAUSE YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET .
ALL DESENTERS CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR HOLE.

hutz
hutz

PER MY 27, 2010 @ 7:34 am
DOE’S OPENING OF THE WOMBS MEAN WHAT I THINK IT MEANS ??

hutz
hutz

LIFE

hutz
hutz

IS

hutz
hutz

BUT

hutz
hutz

A

hutz
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DREAM

cmych
cmych

fixthefuture, thanks so much for the link to Ben’s interview with Rense. It was encouraging. I was glad to hear Ben say he’s not of the opinion that we should go to the Amero, but it’s not his power to influence the decision. Things are definitely happening.

hutz
hutz

LOL

hutz
hutz

Does the timing seem a bit suspicious Patriots?

Fraud sentence delayed for contractor
Adverti CHARLESTON, W.Va. — A Charleston man whose company redecorated the governor’s office must wait to be sentenced for mail fraud and tax evasion.

A federal court hearing for Clark Diehl was postponed from Wednesday until Oct. 25.

Diehl’s Wallpapers in Stock did more than $375,000 worth of work for various state agencies between 1994 and last year.

But Diehl pleaded guilty in January to bypassing the bidding process for a nearly $30,000 contract to redecorate Gov. Joe Manchin’s Capitol offices in 2006.

Diehl also admitted to under reporting his taxable income that year by more than $63,000.

He signed a deal agreeing to cooperate more than two years before his plea. Two lawyers from the U.S. Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section have joined the case since May.

http://www.dailymail.com/News/201008250616

hutz
hutz

The bus tickets to Saturday’s Glenn Beck event have been taken. They were gone within the hour of us offering them on behalf of Cheryl Hess and her husband, as they are unable to attend.
Lastly, it appears as though the Obama administration, through the Department of Homeland Security, has been granting “back door” amnesty to illegal immigrants for over a month. Click the link below to read the entire story.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2010/08/25/obama-admin-gives-illegal-aliens-backdoor-amnesty/

hutz
hutz

Weekly Update

Dear Gold Stock Adviser Member:

Recently, we have seen some signs that the U.S. economy is slowing down. This has hit the stock market.

However, the good news is that gold and gold stocks have rallied despite the weakness in the market. As we enter the seasonally strong period for gold, it is starting to push toward its high of June and now trades at $1,240 an ounce.

The gold stocks also have crept up in recent weeks.

Some people are worried that this market is like 2008 — that the stock market will crash and take down gold and gold stocks with it.

I do not see this happening — 2008 was a “black swan” event. A massive margin call in which people had to sell everything, including gold. This is not the case at the moment.

For example, look at the TED Spread, the price difference between three-month futures contracts for U.S. Treasuries and three-month contracts for eurodollars having identical expiration months. This is a measure of tightness. In 2008, it was trading at 100 to 200 basis points and spiked to 400 basis points during the panic in October 2008, meaning banks were scared to lend to each other.

There was a lot of tightness in the global credit markets then. This led to the margin call.

Anything in the TED Spread under 50 basis points means credit markets are loose. Right now the TED Spread is 15 basis points, which is near an all-time low. This means there is no stress in the system, which means that we will not see some crazy straight-down crash.

Also, gold and gold stocks began to tank in 2008. Right now, they are strong and look like they could break out in the fall.

All the signs are pointing towards a very good late-third and fourth quarter for gold and gold stocks!

The following Gold Stock Adviser stocks are near or under my recommended buy price: Kinross Gold (KGC) and Yamana Gold (AUY).

In my Aggressive Portfolio: Paramount Gold (PZG), Full Metal Minerals (FMM.V), and Kiska Metals Corp. (KSK).

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

HAARP Caught In Action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSubC55KI2c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IaJwpdpEWY&feature=related
Comment by hutz on August 27, 2010 @ 8:18 am

definitely something other than
“regular” weather activity

hutz
hutz

The Prophet of the Ruling Class
Posted by Asst Natl Dir Mellie on August 26, 2010 at 11:53am in Second (2nd) Amendment
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topic/show?id=2600775:Topic:2527862&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

hutz
hutz
fixthefuture
fixthefuture

http://www.resistnet.com
WELL IF FEDERAL ‘KAPOS’ WANT TO PASS
INSANE LEGISLATION,
THEN YOU IGNORE IT FOR STARTERS,
WE DON’Y AND WON’T IUST SIMPLY OBEY AN ENDLESS AMOUNT OF DRIVEL ,

SOVIET ZIONIST COMMISSAR TALMUDIST KAGAN
CAN JUST BUZZ OFF,
SO CAN SENATOR CHUTZPAH & SENATOR DARTH

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

WE DON’T AND WON’T JUST SIMPLY OBEY AN ENDLESS AMOUNT OF DRIVEL

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

OPERATION GLOBAL VALKYRIE !!!!!!!!!!

LIBERATE AMERICA FROM
(AIPAC/ADL/SPLC/JDL/ISRAEL/IDF/DUAL-CITIZEN ASSHOLES)

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Comment by merek on August 26, 2010 @ 1:56 am

WHAT BEN REFERRED TO IN JAPAN
IS GOING ON HERE AND ELSEWHERE.
LIKE THE INGREDIENTS OF WOMEN’S COSMETICS,
FOR ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hutz
hutz

Thursday, August 26, 2010
RESTORE THE REPUBLICS: We cover legal, proper obligations, conforming to our Constitutional standard.”
Rumormill News
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/08/restore-republics-we-cover-legal-proper.html

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

GMO /MONSANTO /GMO / MONSANTO !!!!!!!!!

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/http/MP3Download/Aug2010/1q2aj3/rense_082410_hr1.mp3

Hour 1 – Jeffery Smith – GM Wars

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

hutz

DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON
http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/ ????
THANKS

hutz
hutz

Man there is strategy out the ass(sorry MK)
From what I here no-one is going to jail Tim Turner is going all the way with God on his side . Very interesting to say the least . I am waiting for Glenn becks special .
I do not report on prosperity funds as the publicizing of that info could get someone killed .
I will post everything I hear about former RAP.

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Comment by merek on August 27, 2010 @ 4:05 am
AGREED,
IRAN IS NOT THE ENEMY.

FOR YEARS AND YEARS ISRAEL HAS BEEN SCRAMING ABOUT
NUKING IRAN,
ISRAEL HAS BEEN TERRORIZING IRAN AND A WHOLE
LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.
IS ANYBODY ELSE TIRED OF AMERICA BEING
THE ‘ISRAELI BITCH’ ????
AIPAC HAS BEEN SUCKING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS & BILLIONS
FROM MILITARY/GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS OUT OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET FOR DECADES.
THE ISRAELI PLAN IS TO USE UP AMERICA,
THEN WHEN WE ARE BLED DRY & BROKE,
TO CRASH & TRASH AMERICA,
AND I DO MEAN ‘TRASH’

WHERE IN THE CHRISTIAN TESTAMENT WAS
IT SUGGESTED THAT WE GO AND KILL EVERYONE THE FAKE JEWS
DON’T LIKE????????
THEY DON’T LIKE GOYIM AMERICANS EITHER,
THEY DO HOWEVER ENJOY DECEIVING YOU & USING YOU.

GUESS WHO CONTROLS MONSANTO ???????

hutz
hutz

The Plan is complete .Now is the time for action

g7enn
g7enn

Obama Okays Murdering US Citizens at Home

Barack Obama Conclusively Outed as CIA Creation

Morays Radiant Energy Device

Ben Fulford August Report: Bush Faction Attempts to Sell Neutron Bombs to Iran to Initiate War with Israel

Pharma Rep Confession

GM foods have been proven in animal studies to damage internal organs, cause infertility problems and increase rates of death among those who consume such foods.

Youtube Censors GMO Interview

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

hutz
hutz

Jayne REMEMBER Rob said Regan and Tom was COMPROMISED and thats why they was separated from Tim and tim is with NSA assisting military until 2 phase is complete and then Tim will be President of the Republic which is Restored

[8:39:03 PM] jaywall494: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=181574
[8:39:06 PM] Dan the Man: nsa?
[8:39:21 PM] jaywall494: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4361536536898115029#
[8:39:35 PM] jaywall494: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=132273;title=APFN
Does anyone know which channels are going to cover the Glenn Beck Restore Freedom Rally on Saturday morning starting at 10:00am est. I have looked everywhere and can find any channel covering it???
[1:38:48 PM] J Smith- Outlaw: America’s Divine Destiny – 8/27

Just Announced: This event will be broadcasting live exclusively on Insider Extreme. Join Glenn Beck for an inspiring look at the role faith played in the founding of America and the role it will play again in its destiny.
it says exclusively…that means no where else, right?

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/08/restore-republics-we-cover-legal-proper.html
Comment by hutz on August 27, 2010 @ 9:37 am

just read that,
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hutz
hutz

Once again, the Øbama Administration is making another stealth move for circumventing the 2nd Amendment against the will of the American People. It is time to S.T.O.P. this nonsense once and for all, the EPA is the tool he is using again, this time to ban “lead” bullets … which are the ONLY kind that are affordable and legal. http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/2010/08/obama-is-banning-the-bullets/

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

MULTIPLE & CONSECUTIVE IMPEACHMENTS NOW,
FLUSH THE WHOLE CABINET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

I will post everything I hear about former RAP.
Comment by hutz on August 27, 2010 @ 9:59 am

HUTZ IS http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/
valid ??,
OLD R.A.P. ?, NEW R.A.P.?,
A FAKE SHELL??

rcg335
rcg335

Hello to all,….hey Hutz,just what is going with RAP right now ???? Are all the ducks lined up,….or at least some of them ?? I was into signing in but kept getting bumped out,…What’s up,if you know? Thanks,RCG

hutz
hutz

Aug. 26th 2010 PM #1

The trigger packs, once again out, were intercepted and sent to the U.N. .in N.Y. on orders of Obama and Hillary.

Then, the U.N. refused to release them today also on orders of Obama and Hillary.

The countries say “they will go in and get them and deliver them to us.”

Then China, “Communist Govt”, Flip-Flopped back to Obama AGAIN, and says the other countries better have them guarded 24-7 or they will get them.

The countries say “Tomorrow”.
Obama, Hillary , The U.N., and Communist China says “NO”.

Now we wait.

hutz
hutz

rcg335
rap is no more i hear Tim turner is going full steam ahead. as for the others they may be trying to save their ass …thats cool they are not needed now . i thank them all and wish the best to them . as for Tim i think him and God are on a mission . lololol

hutz
hutz

fixthefuture
old shell i guess . tim is president and imho i think he is going to do something presidential . if he dont get killed . i think tim is a brave man that trusts God.

rcg335
rcg335

Hutz,Ok,…so what were these trigger packs & who were carrying them & where were they suppose to go before they were heisted ? And what countries were going to retrieve them,…..from the U.N.,,,,??? Hell,…this is better than John Wayne movie at this point,is it were true ???? thanks,RCG

mbridges
mbridges

Dear BFCers:

Very interesting article on the BANCOR – a new reserve international currency proposed by the IMF! The scheme would require a global central bank that would not be dominated by any one nation. Apparently, this bank would be modeled after the Federal Reserve. If true, this is a horrifying prospect: a private world central bank with private shareholders? Such a fix would mean that the banksters would finally have achieved their goal of complete global domination!

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/bancor-the-name-of-the-global-currency-a-shocking-imf-report-urges-the-world-to-adopt

mk2009
mk2009

Dear BFCers,

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ARTICLE. You have read some of my information on detoxing yourselves from fluoride. What I have not shared is that many of the current anti-depressants actually work with the fluoride poisoning. What they do is to bind to enough of the fluoride in the body to permit the body to produce its own hormones etc. to permit the body to feel better.

After detoxing myself from fluoride, I detoxed from all anti-depressants (SSRIs) that had been given to me by the local mental health center. I have not been depressed at all since getting off of those medications. In fact, I feel so much better that I can’t begin to describe it. While I was detoxing, I did a lot of reading about psychiatric drugs. I came to the conclusion that these drugs are dangerous. Now, you can read an article in which a number of doctors agree with that conclusion and even take it further. Please read, get the books recommended and use the information to protect your family and friends.

MK
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Americas Mental Illness Epidemic
Gary G. Kohls, MD – via Peter Myers email alert August 24, 2010

Tens of millions of innocent, unsuspecting Americans, who are mired deeply in the mental “health” system, have actually been made crazy by the use of or the withdrawal from commonly-prescribed, brain-altering, brain-disabling, indeed brain-damaging psychiatric drugs that have been, for many decades, cavalierly handed out like candy – often in untested and therefore unapproved combinations of drugs – to trusting and unaware patients by equally unaware but well-intentioned physicians who have been under the mesmerizing influence of slick and obscenely profitable psychopharmaceutical drug companies aka, BigPharma.

That is the conclusion of two books by investigative journalist and health science writer Robert Whitaker. His first book, entitled Mad in America: Bad Science, Bad Medicine and the Enduring Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill noted that there has been a 600% increase (since Thorazine was introduced in the US in the mid-1950s) in the total and permanent disabilities of millions of psychiatric drug-takers. This uniquely First World mental ill health epidemic has resulted in the life-long taxpayer-supported disabilities of rapidly increasing numbers of psychiatric patients who are now unable to be happy, productive, taxpaying members of society. Whitaker has done a powerful, albeit unwelcome job of presenting previously hidden, but very convincing evidence to support his thesis, that it is the drugs and not the diagnosis that is causing the epidemic of mental illness disability. Many open-minded physicians and many aware psychiatric patients are now motivated to be wary of any and all synthetic chemicals that can cross the blood/brain barrier because all of them are capable of altering the brain in ways totally unknown to medical science, especially when the patients are taking the drugs long-term..

In Whitaker’s second book Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America, he goes much further in advancing this sobering reality. He documents the history of the powerful forces behind the relatively new field of psychopharmacology and its major shaper and beneficiary, BigPharma. Psychiatric drugs, whose developers, marketers and salespersons are all in the employ of the giant drug companies, are far more dangerous than the drug and psychiatric industries are willing to admit: These drugs, it turns our, are fully capable of disabling – often permanently – body, brain and spirit.

More evidence to support Whitaker’s well-documented claims are laid out in two important new books written by psychiatrist and scholar Grace Jackson. Jackson did a beautiful job of researching and documenting, from the voluminous basic neuroscience research (which is uniformly ignored by the clinical sciences) the unintended and often disastrous consequences of the chronic ingestion of any of the five major classes of psychiatric drugs. Her second and most powerful book: Drug-Induced Dementia: A Perfect Crime, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that any of the five classes of drugs that are commonly used in psychiatric patients (antidepressants, antipsychotics, psychostimulants, tranquilizers and anti-seizure/”mood-stabilizer” drugs) have shown microscopic, macroscopic, biochemical, clinical and/or radiological evidence of brain shrinkage and other signs of brain damage, which can result in clinically-diagnosable, permanent dementia, premature death and a variety of other related brain disorders that can mimic mental illnesses. Jackson’s first book, Rethinking Psychiatric Drugs: A Guide for Informed Consent was an equally sobering book warning about the many hidden dangers of psychiatric drugs.

This sad truth is that the seemingly knee-jerk prescribing (without very much information being given to patients about the long list of serious long-term adverse effects) of potent and often addicting/dependency-inducing psychiatric drugs has become the standard of care in American psychiatry since the introduction of the so-called anti-schizophrenic “miracle” drug Thorazine in the mid-1950s. (Thorazine was the offending drug that all of Jack Nicholson’s fellow patients were coerced into taking at “medication time” in the Academy Award-winning movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.) Thorazine and all the other “me-too” early antipsychotic drugs are now universally known to have been an iatrogenic (= doctor or other treatment-caused) disaster because of their serious long-term, initially unsuspected, brain-damaging effects that resulted in a number of incurable neurological disorders such as tardive dyskinesia and Parkinson’s disease.

Thorazine and all the other knock-off drugs like Prolixin, Mellaril, Navane. etc, are synthetic “tricyclic” chemical compounds similar in molecular structure to the tricyclic “antidepressants” like imipramine and the similarly toxic, obesity-inducing, diabetogenic, “atypical” anti-schizophrenic drugs like Clozaril, Zyprexa and Seroquel.

Thorazine, incidentally, was originally developed in Europe as an industrial dye. That doesn’t sound so good although it may not be so unusual in the closely related fields of psychopharmcology and the chemical industry, especially when one considers that Depakote, a popular drug marketed initially as an anti-epilepsy drug but now is being heavily used as a so-called “mood stabilizer”. Depakote, known to be a hepatotoxin and renal toxin, was originally developed as an industrial solvent capable of dissolving fat – including, presumably, the fatty tissue in human livers and brains.

Some sympathy and understanding needs to be generated for the various victims of BigPharma’s compulsive drive to expand market share and ”shareholder value” (share price, dividends and the next quarter’s financial report) by whatever means necessary. Both the prescribers and the swallowers of BigPharma’s drugs have succumbed to BigPharma’s cunning marketing campaigns, the prescribers having been seduced by attractive drug company representatives and their “pens, pizzas and post-it note” freebies in the office, and the patients being brain-washed by the inane and unbelievable (if one has intact critical thinking skills) commercials on TV that quickly gloss over the lethal adverse effects in the fine print while urging the watcher to “ask your doctor” about the latest unaffordable wannabe blockbuster drug..

For a quick overview of these issues, I recommend that everybody with an open mind read a long essay written by Whitaker that persuasively identifies the source of America’s epidemic of mental illness disability (a phenomenon that doesn’t exist in Third World nations because costly psych drugs are not prescribed so cavalierly as in the US).

Whitaker and Jackson (among a number of other ground-breaking and whistle-blowing authors who have been essentially black-listed by the mainstream media and mainstream medical journals) have proven to most critically-thinking scientists, alternative practitioners and assorted “psychiatric survivors” that it is the drugs – and not the so-called “disorders” – that are causing our nation’s epidemic of mental illness disability. The Whitaker essay, plus other pertinent information about his books can be accessed at http://www.madinamerica.com A recent interview on Wisconsin Public Radio can be accessed at http://www.wpr.org (at their radio archives link) and a long interview with Dr.Joseph Mercola can be heard at: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/08/robert-whitaker-interview.aspx

After reading and studying all these inconvenient truths, mental health practitioners must consider the medicolegal implications for them, especially if the information is ignored or if the information is dismissed out of hand by practitioners who might be tempted to not take the time to study this new information. Those people who are hearing about this for the first time need to pass the word on to others, especially their prescribing healthcare practitioners who should be equally concerned. This is important because the opinion leaders in the highly influential (for good or ill) psychiatric and medical industries have been marketed into submission without hearing the all the facts (which may have been intentionally hidden from them. If that is the case, they cannot be automatically blamed for. proceeding in a practice that some day might represent malpractice. It shouldn’t have to be pointed out that is the solemn duty of ethical practitioners who are in positions of authority to fully examine potential malpractice issues and then warn others, especially their patients, of the dangers.

Sadly, it must be admitted that most of the over-worked, double-booked care-givers in medical clinics have not yet heard the news that most if not all of the brain-altering synthetic chemicals known as psychotropic drugs (which are treated as hazardous waste unless they are packaged in a swallowable capsule!) have been marketed as safe and effective – but only for short-term use. The captains of the drug industry know that the psychotropic drugs that they present for the FDA-approval have only been tested in animal trials for days and in clinical trials for 6 weeks. They also know – indeed they hope – that patients will be taking their drugs for years (despite no long-term trials proving safety and efficacy) as the only “treatment” for mental ill health. They know that their brain-altering drugs are also dependency-inducing (aka addicting, causing withdrawal symptoms when stopped), neurotoxic and increasingly ineffective (a la “Prozac Poop-out”) as time goes by.

The truth is that the people diagnosed as “mentally ill” for life are often simply those unfortunates who find themselves in acute or chronic states of crisis or “overwhelm” due to any number of preventable, curable and treatable (without the use of drugs) bad luck accidents such as poverty, abuse, violence, torture, homelessness, discrimination, underemployment, brain malnutrition, addictions/withdrawal, brain damage from electroshock “therapy” and/or exposure to neurotoxic chemicals in their food, air, water or prescription bottles.

Those labeled as the “mentally ill” are just like us “normals” who have not yet decompensated because of some yet-to-happen, crisis-inducing, overwhelming (however temporary) life situation. And thus we have not yet been given a billable code number (accompanied by the seemingly obligatory – and unaffordable – drug prescription or two signifying we are now chronically mentally ill. Unlabeled, we are likely to remain off prescription drugs but with a label and in “the system”, it is hard to “just say no to drugs.”

The victims of hopelessness-generating situations like simple bad luck, bad circumstances, bad company, bad choices, bad government, big business, and a competitive society that generates a few winners but mostly losers. America tolerates, indeed celebrates, punitive and thus fear-inducing social systems resembling in many ways the infamous police state realities of 20th century European totalitarianism, where people who were different or just dissidents were thought to be abnormal and therefore “disappeared” into insane asylums, jails or concentration camps without just cause or competent legal defense. And many of them were and are drugged with disabling psychoactive chemicals against their will.

The truth is that most, if not all, of BigPharma’s psychotropic drugs are lethal at some dosage level (the LD50, the lethal dose that kills 50% of lab animals, is calculated before efficacy testing is done), and therefore the drugs must be regarded as dangerous. The chronic use of these drugs is a major cause of cognitive disorders, brain damage, loss of creativity, loss of spirituality, loss of empathy, loss of energy, loss of strength, fatigue and tiredness, permanent disability and a multitude of metabolic adverse effects that can readily sicken the body, brain and soul by causing insomnia or somnolence, increased depression or anxiety, delusions, psychoses, paranoia, mania, etc. So before filling the prescription, it is advisable to read the product insert labeling under WARNINGS, PRECAUTIONS, ADVERSE EFFECTS, CONTRAINDICATIONS, TOXICOLOGY, OVERDOSAGE and the ever-present BLACK BOX WARNINGS ABOUT SUICIDALITY.

Long-term, high dosage or combination psychotropic drug usage could be regarded as a chemically traumatic brain injury (TBI) or, as drugs like Thorazine were known in the 1950s and 60s, a “chemical lobotomy”. That is a useful way to conceptualize this serious issue, because such chemically brain-altered patients are often indistinguishable from those who have suffered a physically traumatic brain injuries or been subjected to ice-pick lobotomies which were popular in the 1940s and 50s – before the drugs came on the market.

America has a mental ill health epidemic on its hands that is grossly misunderstood because it is worsening, not by the supposed disease progression, but because of the neurotoxic, non-curative drugs that are somehow regarded as first-line “treatment.”

For more information of these extremely serious topics check out these websites: http://www.mindfreedom.org, http://www.breggin.com, http://www.icspp.org, http://www.cchr.org, http://www.drugawareness.org, http://www.psychrights.org, http://www.benzo.org.uk, http://www.quitpaxil, org, http://www.wildscolts.com, http://www.endofshock.com, http://www.mercola.com and http://www.madinamerica.com and follow the links.

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Dr. Kohls is a family physician who, until his retirement in 2008, practiced holistic mental health care. His patients came to see him asking for help in getting off the psychotropic drugs that they knew were sickening and disabling them. He was successful in helping significant majorities of his patients get off their drugs using a thorough and therefore time-consuming program that was based on psychoeducational psychotherapy, brain nutrient therapy, a drastic change away from the malnourishing and often toxic Standard American Diet (SAD) plus a program of gradual, closely monitored drug withdrawal. Dr. Kohls warns against the abrupt discontinuation of any psychiatric drug because of the common, often serious withdrawal symptoms that can occur with the chronic use of any dependency-inducing psychoactive drug, whether illicit or legal. Close consultation with an aware, informed physician who is hopefully familiar with dealing with drug withdrawal syndromes (starting with the original prescribing physician), who will read and study the above books and become aware of the previously unknown dangers of these drugs and the nutritional needs of the drug-toxified and nutritionally-depleted brain.

Dr. Kohls is a member of MindFreedom International and the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology. He is the editor of the occasional Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter.
Source: http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/e2fb58e2dcb0fb76/f5e838b40d33d94e?lnk=raot&pli=1