Red alert for new criminally insane move by Satanic Federal Reserve Board cabal

Multiple reliable sources are warning of an extremely horrific act by the criminally insane cabal behind the soon to be bankrupt Federal Reserve Board, possibly on November 11, 2010: 101109 or 11/9/2010, which has uncanny reverse similarity to 9/11/2001. Remember 9 is a sacred number for the Satanists. Indications for this include: the sudden cancellation of former USSR President Gorbachev’s visit to Japan scheduled to start on November 9, or 11/9, reports Obama will cancel his visit to Indonesia also on the same day, Hillary Clinton’s presence in New Zealand on that day, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit to Houston, Texas on that day to supervise a “nuclear terrorist drill,” and the use of skeletons to create the word Google on Google’s search engine home page. Senior CIA sources also say a nuclear bomb has been prepositioned along the San Andrea fault line. The explosion would be followed by a shut off of all ports connected to Asia and martial law, according to this source.

The remainder of this article is only available to members of BenjaminFulford.net
Please Log In or Register to create an account.

Please Login to comment
1002 Comment threads
0 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread
86 Comment authors
professor919sunrvssuncrystalg7ennugmmichael Recent comment authors
  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
asha4u
asha4u

.

bcsolanki
bcsolanki

Beginners luck

asha4u
asha4u

thanx Ben

darylluke
darylluke

Wow!!!!

bcsolanki
bcsolanki

Thanks Ben

siyem
siyem

Six.. Not bad!

jumpstart
jumpstart

Thanks Ben, things are moving faster every day.

spaghettid
spaghettid

You guys remind me of my 6 year old who always wants to be first…… Typical Aries… On to real matters.

I think most of us know from other sources that no Nukes will be allowed to detonate so I wouldn’t be worried about that.

Tis the time for timewave zero event though, wonder what that may be. I’d love a positive event taking the stage for once. Hopefully that’s not just my Utopian side taking control.

Peace to us all.

guac77
guac77

Great article as usual Ben keep us informed.
If you got your soul checked please do it again I’ve had negative entities lately. I’ve also have a bonus 2 free registry cleaners at http://www.icheckyoursoul.com/.

imouse
imouse

Listen, the end is not near. No way DUDE’s!!

So go here and get yourself some cool FREE stuff.

And Remember: God Put A Smile Upon Your Face, God Gave You Style and Gave You Grace. LOL

http://www.itsfreestuff4u.com

Go kick that twat santa in the ballocks!

g7enn
g7enn

Conspiracy Theory Jesse Ventura S02E03 Wall Street 1/3

Conspiracy Theory Jesse Ventura S02E03 Wall Street 2/3

Conspiracy Theory Jesse Ventura S02E03 Wall Street 3/3

Oakland School’s Military Bearing Rankles Some

Nomination for Profile in Courage Award

The ultimate victims of mind control at Jonestown are the American people. If we fail to look beyond the constructed images given us by the television and the press, then our consciousness is manipulated, just as well as the Jonestown victims’ was. Facing nuclear annihilation, may see the current militarism of the Reagan policies, and military training itself, as the real “mass suicide cult.” If the discrepancy between the truth of Jonestown and the official version can be so great, what other lies have we been told about major events?

History is precious. In a democracy, knowledge must be accessible for informed consent to function. Hiding or distorting history behind “national security” leaves the public as the final enemy of the government. Democratic process cannot operate on “need to know.” Otherwise we live in the 1984 envisioned by Orwell’s projections and we must heed his warning that those who control the past control the future.

The real tragedy of Jonestown is not only that it occurred, but that so few chose to ask themselves why or how, so few sought to find out the facts behind the bizarre tale used to explain away the death of more than 900 people, and that so many will continue to be blind to the grim reality of our intelligence agencies. In the long run, the truth will come out. Only our complicity in the deception continues to dishonor the dead.

The Untold Story of the Jonestown Massacre

Conversations with John Judge

FOUR ROCKEFELLER JUDGES

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

acerzw
acerzw

One would think the White Dragon Society would act to stop any crazy act taking place, rather than waiting to get those who caused it after many millions of innocent civilians die…

rafaelneville

Oh common spaghetti!!
Don’t ruin us our small happy moments in the blog!

Trying to be the first is a tradition dating back to the first entries.
It’s a fun race.

You say that because you didn’t get to be the first.
But if you prefer equality, I’ll tell you were the last winner…

mattcha
mattcha

The simpsons video fortells the nuclear explosion. link is on rense and on youtube or paul drocktons website as he writes about it. simpsons also had predictions of 911. stuff is embedded in movies and tv as illuminati got that by b’s also.
move out of america tomorrow! its going to hell in a hand basket no matter what. buy gold/silver/metals as much as you can.! banks will shut . too many signs pointing to this and disaster of epic proportions. you have been warned.

rafaelneville

I like this weeks entry, it’s…
DYNAMIC.
Finally it seems as there is some movement around.

achimseidel
achimseidel

Ben says: “possibly on November 11, 2010: 101109 or 11/9/2010” Nov 9? Nov 11? Is there a typo?

casar1973
casar1973

If this Davignon stunt is a real call, they´re just nervous, you wouldn´t trust those rats under any circumstance whatsoever, since the contracts they are operating under are clear and have one defined goal, and we all know what that would be, don´t we.

Don´t worry about it Davignon, the mainstream levels of politicians are certainly getting illuminated about the who´s who among financial oligarchs, the trusts, the fronts, and all those secret “committée” goodies. Some already are aware of the leprosy within the UN/EU Cartel, going back to The City/bankers, and that they have to shy away from global taxation and supranational regulations at all costs, make no mistake about that you Rothschild shill, they know why now.

suijuris
suijuris

tnx ben again

dingiem
dingiem

Zero Hedge has some nice detailed information about inflation: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/graham-summers%E2%80%99-weekly-market-forecast-inflation-mania

valtony
valtony

18th not bad

dingiem
dingiem

Thx Ben for posting, now looking forward to reading the next blog update of David Wilcock 🙂

rklnrman
rklnrman

Looks Like It’s finally Showdown.

freedom101
freedom101

This video I saw last night also warns of a false flag being planned for this weekend. A must see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K1tBXHU5js&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Suspicious drills, trading and more going on.
People are being warned to store food and water.
Check it out and spread the word, putting a flat in their tire.

lamare

On their Dutch homepage, Google indeed uses skeletons to create the word Google on Google’s search engine home page. I took a screenshot:

http://www.tuks.nl/img/google_rontgen.jpg

The comment says that this is for 115th aniversary of the discovery of Röntgen radiation.

dingiem
dingiem

Consider the following text from onlinejournal.com, the ‘links to other sources of news’:

“Talk about a bad analogy: Appearing on television recently, former Hillary Clinton campaign adviser and current public relations executive Mark Penn suggested that President Obama needs a moment “similar” to the tragic terrorist attack on the Oklahoma City federal building, in order to “reconnect” with voters. He didn’t even seem to flinch in making the comment”

Next to the republicans who seem to be only for war, this makes the whole political scene appear as warmongers. I’m sure Obama does not fall into that trap…

Note. I couldn’t click on the link itself…

OnlineJournal is one of my intelligence sources in my intelligence package 🙂

asha4u
asha4u

@ achimseidel reg.: November 8, 2010 @ 9:26 pm

probably a typo… I understood that either on 9th or 11th of November the surprise climax is 2 b expected…

myra
myra

TY Ben! Stay safe! Interesting week coming – what a ride!
San Andreas Fault? That was in the movie 2012 right, less the Nuke? Skyline releases the 12th? Hereafter out?
Must be part of their ritual that it has to be “declared” prior to the ritual. FYI – gas up in South LA and friend in Michigan, up to 3.05. Peace & Love all!

hopesprings
hopesprings

Good morning everyone:

It is healthy, normal, that all of us speculate–since the cabal do all possible to hide their crimes from us. Don’t let anyone say this is fear-mongering. It is purely our God given instincts for preservation that drive our information.

We have all been fugitives of the supposed PTB and the US Government for too long; truly, now, before and after the next crime, the PTB are the fugitives.

If a nuke is detonated, I am confident this will not send the masses scampering to the PTB for help; but, it will be the final 911 act that galvanizes everyone. Now that there is proof that the head of AlQeada was a Pentagon operative, dining in America after 911, any blame on “men in caves” won’t hold.

This planned act, if true, confirms that they are simply out-of-touch psychopaths. We must get this info to white hats everywhere: secret agencies, police, military, local governments…Some of these men and women still have a soul, a moral compass.

Think of the innocent children that will die. Keep the image of George W. Bush, David Rockefeller and Hillary Clinton (to name a few) seeking cover while thousands of little children die instantly or gradually from radiation. Keep that image in your mind.

The Simpsons story did make the MSM in Toronto–seeds are planted.

I cannot believe that we have lived under this dark shadow government for so long. We now know why we our existence was so mundane and so miserable. A new era is at hand. Freedom is in view. Creativity abounds. Good will prevail. Even if out of the ashes.

Solemn start of the week. Nice.

———————————————————-

As I finish this, I watch Obama speak of Indi at the podium, India [is] “the rising global power”. Anything to oppress China. As USA crumbles he give an attaboy to India. Totally ridiculous. Of course, India rising with the hands of the PTB all over it–just another region of the Empire.
Most of the deals struck in the last few days were for weapons. Will they never stop?!! When will the Banker-Military empire end its hegemony? Arrrrgh!

Gus

Hi all…
Anyone care to comment on the symbolism in today’s google image: http://www.google.com

I see bones, a key, a dove (or perhaps a hawk). What do the three balls or circles near the key indicate? What is the thing on the left side of the second letter O?

Cheers…
Gus

Edge
Edge

BEN-Part of your comment–
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit to Houston, Texas on that day (NOV.09/2010) to supervise a “nuclear terrorist drill,”
———————————————————–
I guess the PTB have to bring in a Foreign Power (the Big
Chief himself) to make sure an opening is left for Mossad
to do their work. Can’t have an screw-up’s–
Edge–

rafaelneville

Prrrzzzt!

Gus

Further on Google’s image: http://www.cwhandy.com

The tool-tip on this image says: “115th Anniversary of the discovery of X-Rays” when you hover your cursor over the image. Since when does Google do 115th anniversaries? X-Rays imply one thing: Radiation.

Cheers…
Gus

Gus

Sorry that should have been http://www.google.com had another link on my clipboard when I pasted.

Cheers…
Gus

myra
myra

Gus: One of the “balls” when enlarged, looks like an eye.
I saved the image on my computer, when zoomed & enlarged, it actually “pulses” and it has a background of white haze above the 1st O – extends towards the top giving the illusion of a 6.
The haze extends in a bottom tail of the 2nd O – upside down 6? The G has a top/right haze/tail, another 6?

Or – since its the 115th anniversary of the discovery of x-rays, I’m totally reading into it and need a day off.

casar1973
casar1973

Ben, don´t let the Bilderberg et al rats fool you into the ship you got, they just want to integrate you into their intelligence process, and that means I have to leave this site because I am not going to pay for reading disinfo skewed JUNK from the scum of the earth. I can get Vanity Fair elsewhere.

Refuse to be naive.

hopesprings
hopesprings

INDIA IS THE NEW CHINA – HERE WE GO AGAIN AROUND THE TREADMILL

“Made in India” emerging. US finds a new best friend to drain as it did China. A destitute nation with tenuous military might lures a budding nation (with an inferiority complex) with cotton candy. Truly, the minnow swallowing the whale. How could India rebuff such as show of might in the current visit?

If only US leaders would allow US to make things, to create, to show its intellectual might. Keeping nations vertically integrated has been part of the cabal’s strategy for “interdepency”–a key word used by the cabal’s minions especially the greenies. Leaders admonishing us to not become “protectionists”–another evil word. All aimed at keeping us unable to function as nations without the rest of the globe. This foreign dependency must end. It’s called globalism and it is what destroyed USA.

Why is Obama not visiting Detroit, Missouri or Phoenix to spur new growth? Rhetorical question.

I say it again, this must be the era of entrepreneurship in USA. I am seriously looking at the foundation of a U.S. and Canada focused Grameen-styled funding organization–interest free. No Government grants. All angel investment.

Americans need to start putting their money into American ingenuity–micro investments now. Not Wall Street. Not silver. Not bank interest. But into themselves.

http://blogs.forbes.com/robertolsen/2010/09/10/the-new-china-strategy-is-india/

http://www.hindustantimes.com/rssfeed/india/Pak-China-on-agenda-as-PM-Obama-hold-talks-today/Article1-623287.aspx

Edge
Edge

I guess the PTB have to bring in a Foreign Power (the Big
Chief himself) to make sure an opening is left for Mossad
to do their work. Can’t have an screw-up’s–
Edge–
Comment by Edge on November 8, 2010 @ 10:57 pm
————————————————————
Not that I believe anything is going to happen on Nov.09–
I meant, “can’t have any screw-up’s, if and when it happens”–
All you mind readers out there should know what I mean, if
you can’t read minds sorry I can’t help you–
Edge–

hopesprings
hopesprings

Complete coincidence’: Two nuclear plants owned by New Orleans-based Entergy Corp. are shut down

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/08/2010-11-08_complete_coincidence_two_nuclear_plants_owned_by_new_orleansbased_entergy_corp_a.html#ixzz14hcA0Qyw

dingiem
dingiem
rafaelneville

Gññiieekk!

dwilcock
dwilcock

I interviewed Ben this past week for open, public MP3 distribution. We directly got into the subject of China’s “October Surprise” that I disclosed in my previous article. Our discussion was quite stunning and it covers a lot of subjects that did not appear in this update.

The bit about the Dragon Family is an important addition, however, and gives greater context to what we discussed in our radio show — so I’m going to toss that in before releasing the finished product, hopefully tonight. Based on what my own insiders have told me, the Dragon Family were human ETs. It does appear — and Ben also validated this — that they still have contact with their extended family, who are now intervening and helping out.

All the UFOs over Chinese airports, et cetera are a central part of this — but there is much, much more.

The most important preparation we can have is the ability to contact our Higher Self accurately and reliably for guidance — and that’s why I’ve changed my focus to offer that teaching in an online conference that is significantly less expensive than my other events.

The news is actually quite hopeful. I do consider there is a possibility that these guys could pull off a false flag, perhaps initially, but they are not allowed to do anything that would cause massive casualties in large areas, like blowing up the Pacific Rim. Nor do I think they will succeed in collapsing the world’s economy.

It may also be that what Ben is saying about the Dragon Society and their significant asset base could be related to “Foundation X” that just offered to bail out the British government. I’ll have to put this in my article as well:

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/11/conspiracy-theories.html

It was stunning to see the latest ‘bailout’ attempt be predicted to decrease the dollar by 20 percent, after my own insiders had told me the plan was to drop it by 15 to 25 percent. I documented that BEFORE the public was told about this plan.

If you pay attention, some of these things do come to pass, but many of them don’t. The insiders are constantly making plans that fail, and that’s a good thing. My interview with Ben was about an hour and very revealing in terms of how systematically these guys are being closed in upon and isolated by the rest of the world.

May we live in interesting times…

– David Wilcock
divinecosmos.com

dingiem
dingiem

Thanks David for the added info.

I guess the cabal are certainly allowed to do things, by the “good guys”, that exposes them more besides to manage the balance. To reach the tipping point is that most people should understand that the enemy is within. Financially, physically and mentally.

For the more intuitive and sensitive people, I think they should continue to rely on their own inner feelings (necessities if you will). To take heart so to speak. My own inner feelings are increasing and directing me further by giving me feedback. You can see it as a feedback mechanism.
For the less intuitive and sensitive people this online conference can be of help.

🙂

Gus

Myra and all…
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Gus: One of the “balls” when enlarged, looks like an eye.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

When I enlarge the top ball it looks like the letter J with the top cross portion quite elongated. Signifying what? Japan, maybe?

The lower right hand ball appears to have the letter E embedded in it with the center “prong” of the E extended so it looks almost like neptune’s fork. Signifying what? Greece, European Union?

I can’t make anything of the smaller ball.

But the key could signify Italy – note its general shape and positioning – could also signify the Church (the keys of St. Peter). Probably the positioning of the three balls near the key representing Italy could have some meaning read into it. Any suggestions?

Magnified the dove is a hawk or eagle. Signifying what else, the USA.

My wife sees coins beside the key. Hmmm… that’s an insteresting conjecture. She says the blob to the left of the second O is a duck? A Duck???

Any other bright ideas? 😉

Cheers…
Gus

dwilcock
dwilcock

Good catch, Hopesprings, on the link about the two nuclear plants being shut down within an hour of each other — one in New York and one in Vermont.

This is exactly the sort of thing the Chinese have been doing, apparently, with the help of their friends.

There are a variety of provocative examples from just the last five weeks that I gave to Ben in our radio show.

I expected there would be more events like this and now we have another one.

Ben doesn’t have direct intel on this yet — his contacts probably don’t want to discuss this because it is so sensitive and embarrassing — but the greater agenda conforms perfectly with the move he’s been predicting China would make all year.

From what I’m hearing, this has caused a great shake-up within the insiders’ world. If they can’t use their toys anymore then they’ve lost the battle.

There appears to be a disinformation campaign underway to make China look like the bad guy in this case, but I do believe these actions are benevolent in nature. Ben and I discuss that in our show and I will work hard to get it out there as soon as I can.

– David

hopesprings
hopesprings

HOW THE END OF US DOLLAR WILL COME

“Indeed, is it likely that countries which see their currencies being revalued by the Fed will remain passive? The Fed is implicitly making the bet that these countries will not retaliate, and that the international dollar-based currency system will remain intact. But for how long? Sooner or later, some central banks around the world will have no choice but to impose capital controls in order to slow down the inflow of unwanted outside money and the onslaught of imported inflation, and prevent their exchanges rates from rising too high too fast. If they do, the entire process of economic globalization may begin to unravel.

Meanwhile, foreign central banks, for example, could accelerate their rush to dump the U.S dollar and to accumulate gold and other more stable currencies such as the euro, the Swiss franc, the British pound, the Canadian dollar and the Australian dollar. China has already begun to do just that. The share of dollar official reserves would then decline from about 60 percent presently to perhaps less than 50 percent. That may signal the beginning of the end for the “imperial dollar” which has dominated the international monetary system since the Bretton Woods conference of 1944.

This is to be followed closely.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21800

rafaelneville

Brrzs Brrzs!

myra
myra

Ty David also for the update!

Gus: I also saw a Duck at first glance. Clearly a J at the bottom left of the L. I see the E, only when it pulses.
Very interesting!

dingiem
dingiem

Rafael seems to be breaking up

hopesprings
hopesprings

“From what I’m hearing, this has caused a great shake-up within the insiders’ world. If they can’t use their toys anymore then they’ve lost the battle.”

Indeed David. Let’s take all their toys away.

dingiem
dingiem

With all the latest and ongoing arms sales to Saudi Arabia and probably more states, and probably troop buildups, it is interesting to see when the “plug could be pulled” on the draconian financial system.
Humongous amounts of money is involved in having troops in foreign countries. Can it happen that when on the moment Israel/America wants to try to attack Iran, that the financial system collapses? Are they then ordered to stop an attack because of having no funds?

dingiem
dingiem

Focus is on China these days…but its rather quiet on the Russian side…wonder what they are doing (besides drinking Vodka)?

Gus

More on google’s image:
The symbol G8 just jumped out at me.
The balls are likely coins the E (Euro) the J or Y (Yen).
G8 members: Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK, USA
Any other associations visible in the symbolism?

Cheers…
Gus

dingiem
dingiem

(almost) collapse of the dollar -> skyrocketing oil price -> Oligarchs have more incluence/power with high oil price… Is that one of the ultimate goals of Ben Bernanke?

positivechange
positivechange

Hey Gus,

Do you see a “69” with the shades around “oo”?

casar1973
casar1973

Trying to make it look like its “all Federal Reserve Board” doing the dirty thing is imbecill. The board is just a bunch of operatives, employed shills, they´re just doing what they´re told. The root sits where it has always been, with the Rothschilds and those, roughly twelve, other financial dynasties, piped through the comittee, then via the parapolitical fronts like RIIA/Bilderberg/Trilateral/CFR and a billion worthless institutes and “foundations”…c’mon everybody knows it and that the ultimate trojan is debt/government bonds and supranational currencies/taxes.

Get rid of all that junk, including Worldbank/IMF/Private Centralbanks/Credit Agricole/Global Environment Facilty/etc etc – and dissolve their trusts (hello bank of england) – ban them from signing into any sort of national resources…do that and all will be well, easily.

Gus

positivechange:
On the 6 and 9, yes I see it. Theories as to it’s meaning?
Six and ninth month have passed. Ninth day approaching but the 6 in association with it?

With a bit of a strech I can find “Sole” though not “Seoul” as in Seoul Korea.

Cheers…
Gus

sierra
sierra

Re Comment by Gus on November 8, 2010 @ 10:55 pm

What is the thing on the left side of the second letter O?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My first thought was that it represents a duck.
I didn’t see the “dove or hawk” until 2nd viewing.

Rather ghoulish image especially considering that
hal’oween was over a week ago.

Does anyone know when this image first appeared?

Sierra

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers, particularly Paladin and Travelman et al.,

Palain, you mentioned that we should be demanding that Joe Biden be indicted etc. in an effort to hasten the end of this mess peacefully. I have two questions: one, can you reproduce some of the evidence that has been amassed? (if the media won’t put it out there, maybe we at the BFC can start posting it around the web) Two, what would we say in these demands since we have not seen the evidence nor completely understand what it is that we should be demanding.

I know that Christopher talked about Biden taking bribes from Bush Sr. What is the proof of these? Can it be reproduced in a PDF that can be uploaded and downloaded for mailing to the local press, our representatives, the 10th Amendment group etc?

Finally, I am 58, but I am ready to help. I don’t have a job right now and I don’t think that I will get one any time soon with things as dire as they look to me. What can we do to change things? We need concrete suggestions about what to do and where it might be safe to do it.

nai2010

PS: I am feeling much better and can breathe now.

Gus

Sierra and all…
The image appeared overnight. I didn’t see it on google yesterday afternoon. Google perports to be celebrating the 115th anniversary of the X-Ray.

The eagle image appears to be a skeleton. Eagle of death or death of the Eagle?

Flip the 8 sideways and you get the symbol for infinity – derived from, I think, a snake eating its own tail.

Cheers…
Gus

positivechange
positivechange

Gus,

Don’t know but a thought that crossed my mind is that the 69 could be the traditional “missionary position”. The duck may have a duckling in its belly?

Here’s somthing from wikipedia on ducks:

“Some people use “duck” specifically for adult females and “drake” for adult males, for the species described here; others use “hen” and “drake”, respectively.”

wbstreck
wbstreck

travelman
How do we know if we can trust, or, who we can trust in the ABC poice agencies. Surely nobody in HLS.
That is the problem, too many have gotten their pockets stuffed, and there are enough RATs behind the doors to make corrections very difficult, even for you insiders.Who do you call in agencies that are totally ratted out ? No one !
But I know this as soon as some goverment rep. mentions they are going to get nasty with ” The We The People” , especially if foreign troops are involved, The Sleeping Giant that is the fruit of America’s pioneers,farmers and cowboys,Doughboys, Grunts,Marines and Aces will buckle up for action. Remember too ! that The FED is broke, their money is worthless,and even haunted with insolvency. Are any foreign mercaneries going to take them serious. Are not many honest jet pilots and submarine captains going to say FU to any traitors in the Pentagon,Military, and to anyone else, singularly, or corporately behind an attack, or plans to do so, on ‘we the people’, I have go this delivery of destruction, right here, right now for Y’All , and goodbye you satanic SOB’s.
It is going to take real Americans from all walks of life to realize they must act, before they perish, than to just perish. Only 8% of the colonists picked up arms and fought in The Revolutionary War, but we won, However the same Rothschild led Crown, fired up by these greedy Kazahar Bastards came back to seize our wealth and even our very lives. They are the first ones that must be killed off. ‘Reverse the fall of the dominoes’, NOW ! That solution will save manny ,manny lives. Cut off the snales head, and it’s body withers away to putrification and to decay. Waste no more time, we need to move on to a better life and higher aspirations for our lives and of living.

Gus

PositiveChange:
I don’t have a position on your 69 thesis. Must admit that train of thought has me licked. 😉

I may “duck” out at this point and go for a long walk.

Keep those theories coming guys!

Cheers…
Gus

sierra
sierra

Sitting duck?

Sierra

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers,

You might want to read this: http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/ on the riots in Germany. Even though the train eventually went forward after a very lengthy delay, there is grave doubt as to whether such an activity would be successful in the future. The article is important because it catalogs many things that are happening here as well. One, the people participating were organized by means other than the MASS MEDIA which they “do not trust to tell the truth.” Two, even the police were questioning why they were being made a part of something that they don’t personally agree with (i.e. the transport of dangerous nuclear waste). Three, the police were overwhelmed by the numbers of protestors and greatly outnumbered.

Expect this sort of thing to play out across the USA when the spigot gets turned off. The Fed’s latest craziness is only going to result in the USA becoming increasingly isolated from the rest of the world. If they are successful in launching another false flag, it will only serve to ENRAGE the already angry populace that no longer believes what they are told.

nai2010

PS: Jonestown was not the only horrible experiment of its kind. Search and read the stories about what really happened in Waco. The people there were already dead when the police entered the burning buildings.

The members of the squad involved began to have nightmares, night terrors and other “breakthrough symptoms” relating to what they had to do in Waco. The guilt that these men suffered was intense. Most had never anticipated that they would be used against innocent civilians (particularly children and infants) in the USA. Despite the brain-wiping that they were subjected to, most began experiencing psychotic breaks and tried to tell the truth. They hired a young eager attorney in Waco to represent them. He died as did the soldiers killed in a series of bizarre accidents. Their stories still got out. Look for them on the web.

rafaelneville

Kggggg…

hopesprings
hopesprings

Frankly Google celebrating the X-ray among all other things is ritualistic in itself. X-rays at airports, at courthouses, mobile on the street, seeing through home walls–are now rampant and key to the PTBs arsenal.

I can just hear that Khazar, Schmidt, [“if you have nothing to hide why do you should care?”].

I would like to aim one those X-ray tools at his home day and might and upload it to the Web for Google search under many episodes:
“Eric scratches his behind in bed”,
“Eric on the toilet”,
“Eric’s wife has a “headache again”,
“Eric watching child porn”,
“Eric sobs watching Sesame street”,
“Eric displays insufficiency”,
“Eric pleasuring himself”…

Sorry for my explosion; but, this character is under-covered.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Fortune cookie says ‘ Lucky Duck ‘, you betchya !
Maybe we’ll all get lucky ! Let’s have a cheer for US !

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

As indicated before, most of these nuclear and hydrogen bombs planted within the Pacific rim of fire were retrieved and destroyed, but some were not. Apparently, as indicated by Ben’s CIA source, one the many nuclear bombs planted along the San Andrea fault line has been located and repositioned in a new undisclosed area as leverage. The CIA have a list of where these weapons were planted and should have assisted in the removal of all of them. How and why did one get missed? Who’s playing who here? Maybe just another fear tactic to keep the ball rolling. Also, it’s not HAARP setting off these bombs when needed it’s the particle beam weapons overhead.

beatbox151
beatbox151

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE6A706720101108

Obama says U.S. low growth or no growth danger to world
GLOBAL ECONOMY-Obama returns fire after China slams Fed’s move

NEW DELHI, Nov 8 (Reuters) – U.S. President Barack Obama defended the Federal Reserve’s policy of printing dollars on Monday after China and Russia stepped up criticism ahead of this week’s Group of 20 meeting.

The G20 summit has been pitched as a chance for leaders of the countries that account for 85 percent of world output to prevent a currency row escalating into a rush to protectionism that could imperil the global recovery. [ID:nSGE6A703T]

But there is little sign of consensus.

The summit has been overshadowed by disagreements over the U.S. Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing (QE) policy under which it will print money to buy $600 billion of government bonds, a move that could depress the dollar and cause a potentially destabilising flow of money into emerging economies.

___________________________________________________________

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101107/ts_nm/us_usa_israel

Netanyahu to press U.S. for military threat on Iran

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Vice President Joe Biden on Sunday that only a credible military threat can deter Iran from building a nuclear weapon, Israeli political sources said.

___________________________________________________________

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/eda8f512-eaae-11df-b28d-00144feab49a.html#axzz14i5EZoSi

World Bank seeks gold standard debate…

Please use the link to reference this article. Do not copy & paste articles which is a breach of FT.com’s Ts&Cs (www.ft.com/servicestools/help/terms) and is copyright infringement. Send a link for free or email ftsales.support@ft.com to purchase rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/eda8f512-eaae-11df-b28d-00144feab49a.html#ixzz14i5UeF9d

Leading economies should consider readopting a modified global gold standard to guide currency movements, argues the president of the World Bank.

Writing in the Financial Times, Robert Zoellick, the bank’s president since 2007, says a successor is needed to what he calls the “Bretton Woods II” system of floating currencies that has held since the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate regime broke down in 1971.

___________________________________________________________

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/virginia/video-blue-colored-ufo-in-centreville-110410

VIDEO: Blue-Colored UFO in Centreville

CENTREVILLE, Va. – Some people in Centreville are talking about a bright blue light spotted moving in the sky Wednesday night. But no one seems to have an explanation for this unidentified flying object.

___________________________________________________________

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/07/rep_issa_im_going_to_be_doing_a_lot_of_investigating.html

Rep. Issa: “I’m Going To Be Doing A Lot Of Investigating”
“The most important thing my Committee can do is seek the truth. We’re the investigations committee, we’re the accountability committee, but Paul [Ryan] can’t be effective if the underlying facts and assumptions are not mutually agreed and it’s one of the problems we had in the previous two years was that we couldn’t agree on what the facts were therefore the conclusions that were different – each side blamed the other – that’s got to end,” Rep. Issa (R-CA) told “FOX News Sunday.”

___________________________________________________________

beatbox151
beatbox151

Comments on the above stories I posted.

If Obama backs the Fed printing of money then it is clear he is either too stupid to see what they are doing, or not listening to reason, or in on the BS. In any case he is clearly not doing anything that would benefit us as people, and should be removed from office as soon as possible.

I posted the Netanyahu story because he is indeed in New Orleans (close to Houston) and apparently pushing his silly agenda to attack Iran. Buuut, it doesn’t make much sense that he is in New Orleans, or that he is discussing it with Biden, unless of course there are other reasons he is there that perhaps Fulford mentioned.

The world bank is changing its tune apparently…All of a sudden they call for Gold Standard and Bretton Woods II. It seems they just want to stay on top and keep control…which also means they see the writing on the wall.That is a heavy statement for them.

More UFO sightings which make me think that disclosure is closer than ever…Perhaps they are here to stop any wayward nukes from reaching said fault line….maybe?

This guy Issa is just the beginning of what I hope will be a huge unveiling of the depth of corruption in this country.

The US needs an ENIMA!!

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers,

Please post this everywhere that you believe appropriate.

http://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/07/removebernanke-org-ben-bernanke-and-qe-must-be-stopped-now/

Video: Ben Bernanke Must Be Removed

nai2010

hopesprings
hopesprings

The Google logo:

*looks like a winged dragon/lion–upper left of cap G
*The 3-holed key is significant–meaning (I think Jordan Maxwell covered specific keys as symbol)
*there is a screaming face in one of the orbs

It’s like looking at clouds–we all see different things. You would not believe what else I see! Once you blow it up. Wish I could manipulate in Photoshop.

WE should send this logo to Jordan.

hopesprings
hopesprings

OK now I see the duck, bone, key and orbs floating on the same level what seem to be water. There is water and buoyance in the two Os.

merek

David Wilcock 11:54pm, say David, your closing wish,
“May we live in interesting times” ,usually stated “May you live in interesting times” is actually a ancient Chinese curse.
How am I to interprit your curse, in fact you better hope we are not going to live in interesting times ,It was in interesting times that the Emperors lost the “Mandate of Heaven” as dynasties changed or the Hsing Nu barbarians were at the gates .
Have a good one David and remember to not stress out during those “Interesting Times!”

hopesprings
hopesprings

The key may have something to do with the divine feminine.
Very Illuminatist.
Has nothing to do with X-ray.
Remember folks: Google = Pentagon

hopesprings
hopesprings

The bird at pecking distance from the bone is very biblical. In revelation, God commands the bird to feed on the carcasses of men (bad ones).

SUNCRYSTAL: if you are here, please give me the name of that natural sleeping pill that works for you. I don’t want to scroll 1,000 posts to find. Need sleep. Zombie.

merek

UGMMichael, Beatbox, thinks the country needs an Enema, Here is your chance to expound on the fragrant and useful Enema that you so often advocate and enjoy giving. (chasing out the devil with an Enema hose.)I think synchronisity, todays calls for you to elaborate…..thank you
come to think of it, it is likely that Wantabe is seriously in need of one….

Gus

Hopesprings and all…

Some interesting insights on the the google image.
There is a masonic watermark in here with the appearance of the number 33 – three circles in the key, with 3 more circles next to it.

I took the X-ray to connote radiation, but it can just as easily mean to shine a light on, expose, disclose, make clear, find malignancy, and so on. Among the exposed bones are hidden archetypes being revealed.

And yes, Jordan Maxwell might well be able to unravel some of the meaning here.

Cheers…
Gus

hopesprings
hopesprings

I’ve sent the image to Jordan. Let’s see if he responds without an offering.

wovolve42
wovolve42

truthjihad.blogspot.com/2010/11/false-flag-film-alert-mel-gibsons-edge.html

Perhaps this movie by Mel Gibson is another glimpse into the truth

When I had first looked the Google image, I saw a duck and the three circles looked liked bubbles – but I didnt blow it up

hopesprings
hopesprings

Boy does that e look like a reptilian head, scales and all.

Rise of celebrations.
The Khazars celebrate 100 years of the Fed on Jekyll Island.
Google celebrates 115 years of the X-ray at a most inauspicious time?
Events are simply odd lately.

The orchestra played as the Titanic sunk.

P.S. I am in bed again, unable to function beyond these fingers and my phone. Lack of sleep is going to kill me. So I’ll be playing here til my brain turns off–I hope!

lew3
lew3

Hope, here it is:
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Sleeping problems?

Do NOT take Big Pharma’s sleeping pills – they cause memory loss (I read somewhere…).

I take homeopathic “Quietude.” It’s the BEST! with no side effects whatsoever.
Comment by suncrystal on November 5, 2010 @ 12:39 am
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I found it by using Ctrl F and entering suncrystal into the search field. There were only 23 instances returned – much bettere than 1,000+!

hopesprings
hopesprings

OK Folks this Jordan’s comment to me i.e. no biggie:

I don’t think much of it… it’s like playing a record backwards to hear possible demonic messages. I don’t see much of anything in this “small stuff”. It’s always
possible but there are bigger symbols that are really important on the world stage.
So to me, it’s nothing of any importance.

JM

hopesprings
hopesprings

Thanks Lew: I had been taking the odd valium when desperate for sleep–turns off the neurotransmitters. Are you saying that I may have lost some memory from that? Yikes. Will never touch again! Not addicted thank God. Please confirm.

dingiem
dingiem

Depleted uranium in chemtrails nowadays?

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/montague07-11-10.html

lew3
lew3

Re: Google’s logo, has anyone reported seeing the person in the lower left of the lower part of the “g”? Or, that the “l” (lower case “L”) looks just like the bone of an entire human leg? Or, that the background, surrounding all of the objects is pulsating? [Click on the red “X” at the top of Internet Explorer and the pusating stops.]

Google has a long history of having fun with it’s logo on selected anniversary dates and holidays. Smetimes they are rolled out on international versions of Google’s site as the clock strikes midnight. Sometimes they are country-specific. I don’t think there’s any symbolism there, just programmers having fun. However… I’ll be looking at them a lot closer from now on.

positivechange
positivechange

hope, if you can’t remember then you’re probably just fine 😉

hopesprings
hopesprings

Lew, you are right. It is pulsating i.e. radiating
Let’s face it, X-rays are radiation.
Uncanny that they make this weird announcement as we hear of nukes in CA.
Its all part of the radiation story.

hopesprings
hopesprings

Positive: HaHaHa

Lew: My natural health retailer is looking for Quietude for me right now!! She only has the kids liquid–should I take that and double or triple? Or is that a different formulation–do you know? Alternatively, a dear friend has volunteered to come over with a baseball bat.

johnq
johnq

guac77 – I went to your website early this morning to get a “soul check” – paid the toll (more than requested) and “nada” thus far. Looking forward to hearing from you …

lew3
lew3

hope, I just reposted Suncrystal’s post. I have no experience with sleeping aids. My conscience is clear, so I sleep like baby. LOL

Try:

http://www.iherb.com/Boiron-Quietude-60-Tablets/6051?at=0

I order most of my supplements from iHerb – fabulous service! I think they ship to Canada (and many other countries.

lew3
lew3

johnq – guac77, aka Gary Carlson (if my memory is working) works during the day (in California), so expect to see something this evening.

hopesprings
hopesprings

ALERT! ALERT! – Anomaly? Test? Or the beginning?

Steve Quayle receives posts this morning of US banks being down and riots.

Hi Steve,
My daughter who works at west coast bank, called me this early afternoon, and asked me to turn on the news to see if anything was being said about banks closing, she said her bank system was down and people were coming in , in a panic stating that they can’t get there funds,, cannot use there card,, every transaction was being denied. It turned into a riot, with the bank manager just about being attacked physically. She said she heard from her manager that they thought chase was down and also bank of america that is who i bank with , so i called customer service and the computer voice said there system is down and there is no personnal assistants to help with your accounts. I thought it was important for you to know this and your listeners, and also to see if there is any more information you have heard of?? Heres Another– NOTICE THEY COULD STILL TAKE DEPOSITS–

Hello Steve I hope you and yours are well today! Just want to share about a strange experience that happened to my husband earlier today at the bank. We live in Southern Calif., suburb about 20 miles outside of Downtown Los Angeles. My husband went in today to our regular bank (WELLS FARGO) to cash a pay check. Normal weekly activity for us right? He was told by the bank teller that their computer system was “down” and that she was unable to CASH his check, but they were still able to take DEPOSITS (How nice of them to offer to take and hold our money and keep it safe right!?) Ok so my husband asks, “Well is it just this branch? Can I cash my check at another location?” She then tells him that the system outage is “COMPANY WIDE.” He forgot to inquire about withdrawing funds, but that doesn’t really matter to us since as of late we keep almost nothing in any of our accounts.

US Bank–The Banks listed below are some of the Institutions that people reported having problems with
Bank of America
Wells Fargo
Compass
USAA
Suntrust
Chase
Fairwinds Credit Union
American Express
BB&T on the East Coast
PNC

Read the whole story:
http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Money/101108.no.bank.holiday.Steve.html

rklnrman
rklnrman

Lew3 some symbols to point out the O you will see a Key and three sun earth moon this a NSA as a skeliton key appears on their Crest/Logo representing the Vatican influence in the security agency, or all symbolizes Vatican and Papacy.

rafaelneville

waka waka waka waka…

Edge
Edge

GOLD CARRYING ON IT’S MARCH TO THE MOON–

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
————————————————–
Hope —
As a by-stander, I would say the reason you can’t sleep
is your mind is too active– try and relax– you know
the ancient remedy “count sheep”, pretend you see these
sheep jumping over the fence, one at a time.
Just my thots–but than who am I–
Edge–

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************
Martin Wolff on a “Return to Gold”

http://leduc998.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/martin-wolff-on-a-return-to-gold/

hopesprings
hopesprings

Thanks Edge: I have no trouble falling asleep–ever. I wake in the middle of the night and that is when my brain gets overactive. I feel like Hugh Hefner–working from his bed. Gotta buy some silk pyjamas, an ascot and a pipe!

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************

Zoellick’s call on gold standard dismissed

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/213e17aa-eb5d-11df-b482-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz14j3k5Tda

Edge
Edge

Hope–
I was going to answer you, but have to go– running late.
Take care–
Edge–

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************

Large Hadron Collider (LHC) Generates a `mini-Big Bang`

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11711228

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************

Return to the Gold Standard would be madness

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100008531/return-to-the-gold-standard-would-be-madness/

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************

Citi: Central Banks Are Going To Start Dumping Dollars In The Coming Weeks

http://www.businessinsider.com/citi-central-bank-reserve-selling-2010-11

rafaelneville

A reflexion:

Just think of what would happen to all those happy investors who bought a lot of gold, seeing the logical evolution of gold who keeps on rising, plus the GATA’s trials, who if happen to succeed will certainly increase the value of, plus the repercussions of the dollar’s stance, all this will lead to a high value precious metal.

In the other hand we have this offer by Foundation X, claiming to have hypermegallions of gold, that of course, if dumped on the system, will definitely devalue this precious metal.
My theory says this could very much include the alleged 60,000 tonnes of gold from the Golden Lily Operation.
Thus making sense that these two words seem to appear quite frequently on the net, including the entries on this blog.
“Philippines” and “Gold” or “wealth related adjectives”.
It is too very possible that the Vatican has stinking amounts of gold, very possibly coming from the small percentage declared to the Spanish monarchy, and so the catholic chooich.
It well known by deep historians that many of the conquistadores (if not all), declared up to 15% of what they really managed to acquire.
My theory says the rest of that percentage could have travelled around eventually ending up in the hands of the templars, yes, those who invented banking.
And so up to now.

So, it is logical to think that since these individuals do not understand nor follow the law of one, nor it’s principles, these eventually have suffered from the side effects of egoism. Eventually it hit them back, and now they seek for help. They say we have a common enemy, though they are our enemy too, at least until we forgive them.
Of course, they couldn’t be trusted, after all their criminal history.

Of course one thing is being egoistic and wanting to remain rich and prosperous, and live the great jet-set life, and a very different one is drinking blood, getting hard-ons through others sufferings, eating humans, raping children and babies, and well, you know the rest…
The first ones mainly are unconscious wrongly educated humans, the second ones are very conscious of what they do, which is on purpose.

Though in the end neutrals always end up twisting everything by stating that there is no bad without good, and no good without bad, so as if we had to accept evil as a creation of god, and so an inevitable bump in our evolution.

Forgiving is cool, but do it with caution else you’ll become a fool.

wovolve42
wovolve42

Robert Gibbs Fights With Indian Security Over White House Press Corps Restrictions
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs grew so angry with Indian security officials on Monday that he got into a heated shouting match with them — and even blocked a door they were trying to close with his foot. The altercation came during the third day of President Obama’s visit to the country.

Looks like obama and his peeps are not having as much fun as they thought….LOL

mbridges
mbridges

translation from the Dutch:
**************************************************************
Western countries should get 2011 $ 10,200,000,000,000

The governments of 15 Western countries, including Japan, USA, Greece and Belgium, have to loan a combined 10.2 trillion U.S. dollars in 2011 (7.3 trillion euro) to meet their financial obligations.

more at link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fd.nl%2Fartikel%2F20667299%2Fwesterse-landen-moeten-2011-10-2-biljoen-dollar-ophalen&sl=nl&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************
Interview With German Finance Minister Schäuble
‘The US Has Lived on Borrowed Money for Too Long’

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,727801,00.html

travelman
travelman

Dear WB –

YOU ARE THE VOICE … it starts with the power of one! n Then two! Then three! … then millions!

You now have the charge … LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD …tell the Senators and congressman … EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM KNOWS OF THE BIDEN ISSUE AS WE HAVE INFORMED THEM … IT STARTS THERE … TAKE CONTROL … YOUR A FREE MAN IN THE COUNTRY OF THE FREE … GET THE MEDIA OUTLETS AND ALL OF THE OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS AND EDITORS … TELL THEM TO GROW TESTICLES AND TELL THE TRUTH … WRITE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND GIVE THEM THE STRENGTH TO MOVE >>> LET THEM HEAR YOUR VOICES AND DON’T BE SHY! LET THEM KNOW THE WORK WE HAVE DONE IS OF VALUE AND THEY DON’T HAVE TO HIDE … GIVE THEM THE STRENGTH… TALK TO YOR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS …. GIVE THEM THE INFO AND LET THEM DECIDE …

At some point all of you folks have to go to the street and demand answers not bullshit … there are alot of opinions here and frankly, all conspiracy theorums … the government is not that sophisticated and they do keep the worst secrets …
START WITH BIDEN AND THE REST WILL FLOW FROM THERE …

TMAN

_______________________________________________________

In addition, tell this Steve guy, if he is in the media, to start the conversation … as a opinion, we need to start to speak about the real and not the UFO flying around the Chinese airports … but that is not said to diminish any of the conversation here … there is important stuff going on in WDC and not of what is being talked about here at this very moment … Shed light on darkness and the rock dwellers will scurry … if you demnad answers someone has to go down … it starts with Biden …

TMAN

hut777
hut777

[2:24:01 AM] DesertFalcon: Here is a video stream of the Republic Meeting for the Riverside California Village/Settlement conducted on November 6, 2010. Check it out!   PART 1 – http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10681855
PART II  – http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10683799
The above videos will give you a good grasp of what is going on with the re-inhabiting of the Republic.. You can forward this information to your friends, to educate them.

hut777
hut777

[11:39:02 AM] Sue B: The above is a must watch video (2) don’t miss out on this important info!!!
[3:25:52 PM] staff – Panama Legal Law Firm: the part 2 video is excellent

aztimagnetiko
aztimagnetiko

Wow! Ambac files for bankruptcy:

—o—
Bix Weir to me
show details 7:01 PM (22 minutes ago)

This is a VERY, VERY BIG problem for the Global Financial System as Ambac was a huge player in Credit Default Swaps, Mortgage Backed Securities and all other derivatives. It’s ALL about COUNTER PARTY RISK!!!

Bond insurer Ambac files for bankruptcy

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A75EW20101108

We’ll be lucky if the banks last another week.

It’s all happening NOW!

Tick, tick, tick…

Bix
—o—

nai2010
nai2010

Dear TMAN,

I am more than willing to get those letters moving, but I would like something to reference. Where is all this work that you have done? Can some of it be scanned in and used as reference materials?

nai2010

travelman
travelman

NAI –

I hate to say this but you will not be able to see the doc’s … BUT if you are authoring correspondence to governmental leaders … they already know.

I have been informed today late that the information has been delivered to many various sources including the governmental agencies that should act on these matters so tell your leaders to cooperate with the authorities and force the issue.

TMAN

g7enn
g7enn

The New Kremlin Rulers

Dr. Beter first revealed in late 1977 that a new, non-Bolshevik ruling group had taken the reins of top power in the Soviet Union….

Unlike the atheistic, Satanic Bolsheviks recently overthrown, Russia’s new top rulers are members of a sect of native Russian Christians.

…Dr. Beter cautions his listeners not to assume that the New Kremlin rulers look at everything in the same way as Western Christians might. For one thing, he points out that it required a patient, arduous campaign of six decades for them to oust the Bolsheviks from top power in Russia. That experience has left them with very definite, vivid opinions about what does and does not work when dealing with people like the Bolsheviks and Zionists. They also know that rapid, radical change of any type opens the door for revolution–and where there is revolution, Bolshevik-Zionist agents will be there to exploit it. They are introducing liberalizing changes in Russia gradually, one step at a time. Having come this far, they are trying not to move too fast and thereby risk allowing it all to be undone.

Even so, visible changes are occurring. Early in 1979 the first legal shipment of Bibles into Russia since the Bolshevik Revolution took place. That Easter, Handel’s Messiah was performed in Russia for the first time since the Bolshevik Revolution–and not in some out-of-the-way place, but at the Moscow Conservatory. Churches are reopening, one by one, all over the Soviet Union–and they are packed, as Dr. Billy Graham told the world upon returning from a Moscow religious conference in May 1982.

For saying what he did about what he had seen of religion in Russia, Dr.Graham ran into a hostile reception here in the United States. The Satanic Bolsheviks who now dominate the United States Government are doing everything in their power to paint Russia as an enemy worthy of hate. Anything which interferes with that image is suppressed. Because someday, the Bolsheviks here want America to go to war against Russia.

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

paladin
paladin

TMeister?

Who is Steve?

valtony
valtony

WHY HAVE WE NOT DISMANTLE (OBLITERATE)HAARP?

WDS…..GET TO WORK!!!!!

THANK YOU

valtony
valtony

Thank you David

hopesprings
hopesprings

Hello Edge, Lew and those who don’t sleep well:
Just came back from my natural health advisor. Apparently, I do not have insomnia. People who wake in the middle of the night are often suffering from digestive issues, a form of allergy. She says many people would sleep better if they went off dairy–almost right away. So for those who have shared similar issues you might want to try that. I am going off all dairy for a few days and see what happens.

Now, back to the rest of the world crumbling around us.

darylluke
darylluke

“May you live in interesting times.”, I do believe is an ancient Chinese curse, and not a blessing as assumed…
Correct me if I’m wrong.

hopesprings
hopesprings

“No Bank Closing – Just Tighter Access To Cash”, hidden author claims

“As I was trying to indicate in the piece your read out over the airwaves, the NWO system for a Bancorps and ASEAN is still far off. No bank closure will happen. All smoke and mirrors,to keep the yin/yang alive. nothing more.

The FDIC keeps banks alerted to cash flow discrepencies and they in turn tell the public what is capable or not for cash withdrawals. With the amount of serious billionaire power keeping the bank paper moving forward and the BIS on track with it’s future plans, a) it’s not time for the Bankcors, and the use of the Amero may be a real consideration to keep the buy/sell mechanism in play. You can’t take out one system unless the next one is in place.”

Author: ‘B’ (not very reliable)
http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Money/101108.no.bank.holiday.html

travelman
travelman

Paladin –

Sorry I thought his name was Steve … I went back and checked … apparently, there is a guy named David, not Steve. Does he have a media … radio … internet program?

Does he have the ability to serve up Biden and then Obama on a platter?

TMAN

travelman
travelman

P –

Wait a minute … isn’t this saucer boy?

We have fun listening to his stuff here !

PIMP

TMAN

darylluke
darylluke

BONES in google started appearing late on the 6th.
Likley 12:01am Eastern Time November 7th.

hut777
hut777

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/documents/Invite_Wind_Walker_Ranch.pdf

THE UTAH Republic of the united States of America
INVITES YOU TO JOIN US
Friday, Saturday and Sunday, November 12, 13, 14, 2010
Celebrating Sovereign Rights

The time is NOW for all people of love and light to unite and stand together.

You are invited to take a stand for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

You are invited to take a stand for love, unity, and peace.

You are invited to take a stand for yourself, your children, your community, your country.

You are invited to take a stand for the unalienable rights endowed upon you by your Creator.

You are invited to take a stand, joining with like-minded people across this great land to form a more perfect Republic, establish Justice, insure Domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty for our Republic and our Posterity.

You are invited to take a stand to support, preserve, protect and defend the Declaration of Independence (July 4, 1776) and the Republic of the united States Constitution (c. 1789).

You are invited to take YOUR stand at beautiful Wind Walker Guest Ranch
Speakers: President Tim Turner, Utah Republic Governor Ted Lee and more
Special session for all Republic Senators and Representatives
November 12, 13, and/or 14, 2010
Please RSVP to Loretta Johnson

lew3
lew3

A short update from Clif High:

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/solnums.html

lew3
lew3

Waht do ya’ll think of Tom Heneghan’s latest post?

http://blogs.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel

hut777
hut777

here is where you can download the documents presented in the videos posted here Comment by hut777 on November 9, 2010 @ 9:04 am
========================================================

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/

PART 1 – http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10681855
PART II – http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10683799

hopesprings
hopesprings

TOTALITARIANISM GONE WILD AND COMING HERE SOON!

Carbon Units Trial in Australia:
Norfolk Islanders on rations to fight both global warming and obesity.

Compliments of the Satanist Gillard Government.

Read the sordid story of how this will work in your daily lives:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_why_you_may_soon_need_a_warmists_permission_to_eat

hopesprings
hopesprings

ATMS WENT DOWN – LONGER BANK HOLIDAY COMING?

“Twitter is going crazy with reports of ATMs and online accounts going down as of 01:00 hours EST of the 7th of November 2010,” writes Brennan. “This is happening to many banks all across America. Some are trying to say that it is a computer glitch to do with the change in Daylight Savings Time, but I will call BS on this as we manage to put our clocks back over here in the UK without knocking out ATMs and online accounts nationally.”

Brennan questions whether the outages were the first warning shots in a move to “devalue the dollar,” just days after Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke sparked an international currency war by announcing that the Fed will buy $600 billion of U.S. government bonds over the next eight months.

Any perceived inability of banks to deal with a sudden demand for cash would undoubtedly place in peril the United States’ triple A credit rating and spark a fresh dollar crisis.

“In the light of what is going on geopolitically, I am still very suspicious about the reasons for this mass downtime of ATMs and Online Accounts, adds Brennan. “There is still a very distinct possibility that November the 11th will turn into an extended Bank Holiday so I would advise all those who can get their money out of their banks to do so, even if you have to pay your upcoming bills manually.”

Read whole story at:
http://www.infowars.com/atms-crash-across-the-country-after-bank-holiday-warning/

hut777
hut777

A MONSTER HAS GROWN UP AROUND USA INC THAT NOW THREATENS THE POPULATION OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY

When state Constitutions were set aside in favor of a ‘unified’ federal corporation, USA INC in Washington D C, via the Reconstruction Act and the 14th Amendment after the Civil War the entire country was transformed into a ‘group’ of interconnected states. These states then became corporate entities of the USA INC corporate franchise system. The system continued to grow and divide eventually incorporating the counties, townships, municipalities, and school districts, etc.
http://anticorruptionsociety.com/2010/11/08/corporation-nation/

hopesprings
hopesprings

Wow Lew:

Read the Tom Heneghan intel re the Wanta/Reagan protocol –$27.5 of real currency back into US…
We certainly don’t hear about this in the mainstream.

Paladin and Travelman know quite a bit a about this.

Can you fellas weigh in here?

BTW I will never see Warren Buffet in a good light again.
He has been up to his knees in this derivatives mess getting the handouts.

hopesprings
hopesprings

Sorry $27.5 trillion !

travelman
travelman

Hope –

just ask and if there is an answer … you will get it …

anybody heard from paladin … hope he’s ok …

TMAN

hopesprings
hopesprings

TMan:

Where is this $27.5 trillion Wanta/Reagan/Miterrand real currency coming from? Pre-fiat? All bills are legal tender? Are these old bonds maturing? Commodities/Metals? Pray tell.

If this money can be injected, where the heck is it?

travelman
travelman

Hope –

I have just reviewed the site from one of the lads above. seems like Heneghan is just spewing his brand of stuff again. If you want to know about the Wanta stuff or the Global Settlements in general go to the Chris Story stuff and you will see the lay of the land.

Heneghan wants to be the new Story but like most conspiracy providers they just propagate garbage. In short, they whip people into a frenzy and just about the time for the orgasm they pull out. Please note that most conspiracy operators are never correct or the result is not measurable to the extent of the immediate crisis. It like listening to Rush Limbaugh except he is at least right on with his info. Most internet guys are not even close. Take a look at our host’s track record … I am waiting with patience for the san Andres nuke or HARPP scenerio’s to happen. Frankly, we don’t need California but they do have great avocado’s … not sure about the rest.

Anyway, use your head and always ask … DOES THIS MAKE SENSE. Use the gut test even thought your gut is based on experience level … when all else fails remember the Pot leads to Heroin addiction … then you will turn into a zombie creature walking the earth in total mental abandonment for the rest of your natural life.

Have fun.

TMAN

hopesprings
hopesprings

Wooa Tman: (the metaphors!)

Look you have to be patient with all of us. We are faced with an avalanche of information on all fronts. Everyone here seems to have a good brain and heart. Some respect is due T. I know one in particular does not sit well with you. No need to beat that horse again. Anyway, discernment takes time.

We have not been privy to a life of intel and intrigue like Pal and you. But we are learning quickly. I will seek the Christopher Story info again–I had read some eons ago.

BTW California is home to a lot of folks. Every place and everyone has a right to thrive (minus the obvious who need to be sequestered on a island with no escape).

In the meantime, can you not describe the species of this $27.5 trillion? 🙂

mbridges
mbridges

This is a VERY, VERY BIG problem for the Global Financial System as Ambac was a huge player in Credit Default Swaps, Mortgage Backed Securities and all other derivatives. It’s ALL about COUNTER PARTY RISK!!!

Bond insurer Ambac files for bankruptcy
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A75EW20101108

We’ll be lucky if the banks last another week.

It’s all happening NOW!

Tick, tick, tick…

Bix

hopesprings
hopesprings

OK Tman: here is the link with all the Wanta articles’ headlines. Which should I read first. Too many!

http://www.worldreports.org/news

mbridges
mbridges

Sorry for the repeat. See aztimagnetiko on November 9, 2010 @ 9:24 am

paladin
paladin

TMan,

Ohhhh, brother, I thought you knew. When I mentioned Edgar Cayce in a couple of my posts to you, I thought you knew it was him. Reincarnated of course. But hey, they’ve got the same birthday so thats good enough for me. You know his schtick….girlish praise for Obama, erroneous information about the pineal gland, of course the EC thing…oh yeah, almost forgot….disclosure…two years running. As if we don’t already know we aren’t the only cowboys roaming the plains. But you see, its a government thing…it doesn’t exist unless the government says so. So we’re waiting for that and then we’ll KNOW for sure. Thank god we already know Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and tooth fairy exist, otherwise there’d be no Christmas, Easter or baby teeth.

One other thing…he’s got sources too…unnamed of course, which is not unusual….however, the fact that his sources ALWAYS confirm what he’s been telling us all along is just….uncanny….otherwordlike….ya know?

And the one thing he does that resonates…at least to me nayway….is that he’s not shy about telling us what we should be doing, how we should be thinking and he even provides us with all the information we need to come to his conclusion. I love being lectured like that….

I’ve been sorta the Lone Ranger on this one, to stick with the western genre…but some of the astute ones here are starting to do a little research and expose some of his rhetoric and question his garbage. merek and daryl are all over the chinese curse he left us today…indicative of his hocus pocus dog and saucer show.

Anyway, I digress. To answer your question….yes.

PS. The boys won the sectional and play the 5 ranked team up FTW way Friday night. Had breakfast with mon pater yesterday….don’t think he’ll ever understand why we don’t get real jobs but he still loves us just the same.

Cosmo over and out

kauwila
kauwila

To those who have commented on the google “bones”:

Here is a very logical line of reasoning…

The top ball to the right of the key contains the letters “T” on top of an “O”.

Anyone who watches the NFL KNOWS that “TO” means “Terrell Owens”.

Terrell Owens plays for the Cincinnati Bengals.

The Bengal “is a subspecies of tiger native to India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan” [Wikipedia].

The next cabal false flag operation will begin with a release of a pride of real Bengal tigers in the middle of a Cincinnati Bengals football game (perhaps tonight’s Monday Nigh Football game).

The real Bengal tigers will bite and severely injure “TO” (Terrell Owens).

All of the NFL fans in Cincinnati will react with shock, sadness and anger, sending a scalar pulse of shock, sadness and anger into the center of the earth.

Across the world, in the lands of the Bengal tiger (India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan), seeing this abuse and misuse and mistreatment of the Bengal tigers (Terrell Owens is NOT an approved Bengal tiger food), will react with shock, sadness and anger, sending another scalar pulse of shock, sadness and anger into the center of the earth.

These two scalar pulses will meet in the center of the Earth, exploding the planet.

…All because “TO” was traded to the Bengals.

paladin
paladin

Hope…

Did you mention silky pajamas earlier???

Talk to the TMan on Wanta…he’s got a direct line.

hut777
hut777

please check out the west virgina Republic website http://republicofwv.blogspot.com/

hut777
hut777

My prediction is if a show business person says nice things about Obama . Obama wont bring the IRS down on them .They can safely continue business . This Obama rumor that he is a lightworker/serian commander/all round good guy has me rolling on the floor laughing at the people that believe it.

getem
getem

Hope, re your 10.25am posting, sorry to say I eat no dairy. I am lactose intolerant and so I avoid dairy. Still have problems sleeping though. Sorry to burst your bubble. Worth trying though, may work for you where it didn’t for me.

jellyfish
jellyfish

I THINK THE CODE HAS BEEN CRACKED!

“To those who have commented on the google “bones”:

Here is a very logical line of reasoning…

The top ball to the right of the key contains the letters “T” on top of an “O”.

Anyone who watches the NFL KNOWS that “TO” means “Terrell Owens”.

Terrell Owens plays for the Cincinnati Bengals.

The Bengal “is a subspecies of tiger native to India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan” [Wikipedia].

The next cabal false flag operation will begin with a release of a pride of real Bengal tigers in the middle of a Cincinnati Bengals football game (perhaps tonight’s Monday Nigh Football game).

The real Bengal tigers will bite and severely injure “TO” (Terrell Owens).

All of the NFL fans in Cincinnati will react with shock, sadness and anger, sending a scalar pulse of shock, sadness and anger into the center of the earth.

Across the world, in the lands of the Bengal tiger (India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan), seeing this abuse and misuse and mistreatment of the Bengal tigers (Terrell Owens is NOT an approved Bengal tiger food), will react with shock, sadness and anger, sending another scalar pulse of shock, sadness and anger into the center of the earth.

These two scalar pulses will meet in the center of the Earth, exploding the planet.

…All because “TO” was traded to the Bengals.”

hahaha….good stuff. sometimes all this hyper-paranoid conspiracy stuff gets to be quite silly.

“i see things that aren’t there” –Steven Colbert

time will tell, but i’m willing to bet the Google x-ray thing is nothing more than just that.

kohala889
kohala889

Kauwila, excellent analysis. Clif High would no doubt support this.

Comment by kauwila on November 9, 2010 @ 1:27 pm

===============================================================

Tman: Re Biden.

“I hate to say this but you will not be able to see the doc’s … BUT if you are authoring correspondence to governmental leaders … they already know.
I have been informed today late that the information has been delivered to many various sources including the governmental agencies that should act on these matters so tell your leaders to cooperate with the authorities and force the issue.”—TMAN

So you want us to contact people and pursue this issue based on what? Your say so? Hey if Paladin says you’re legit then that’s good enough for me, but not good enough to go around confronting people without docs.

IF the information has actually been delivered to “many various sources and govt agencies” then it should be available in some form we can actually look at to analyze. Putting it on the web would be an effective means of accomplishing your goal here, in my opinion.

And if Biden is being sacrificed because he wouldn’t play with the big guys, how is that a bad thing on his part?

Just askin’

gwynned
gwynned

There were two simultaneous nuclear plant closures on Sunday night. One in NY and one in VT. Seems a bit strange, but maybe just a coincidence. The phrasing in the first article. There was an ‘explosion,’ but the fire was not much to speak of.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/11/07/2010-11-07_explosion_closes_indian_point_nuclear_power_plant_near_new_york_city_no_danger_o.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/nyregion/09nuke.html

mbridges
mbridges

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Bankruptcy of U.S. is ‘Mathematical Certainty,’ Says Former CEO of Nation’s 10th Largest Bank
Thursday, November 04, 2010

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/former-bbt-ceo-bankruptcy-us-mathematica

mbridges
mbridges

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

“Let’s get real,” Prof. Kotlikoff says. “The U.S. is bankrupt.

http://cryptogon.com/?p=1851

mbridges
mbridges

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
China ready to drop dollar peg.

http://www.thecomingdepression.net/countries/eurasia/china-ready-to-drop-dollar-peg/

mbridges
mbridges

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Jim Rickards – Fed May Go Bankrupt

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2010/11/5_Jim_Rickards_-_Fed_May_Go_Bankrupt.html

mbridges
mbridges

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Naked Torture: Sex main tool of British interrogation in Iraq?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFNOlvUtqOc&feature=player_embedded

sunrvs
sunrvs
sunrvs
sunrvs

Mini ‘Big Bang’ created in lab, may unravel cosmic mysteries

LONDON: Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) have succeeded in recreating the Big Bang on a miniature scale.

The Telegraph reports that the collisions were produced by firing lead ions – atoms with their electrons removed — at incredible speeds in opposite directions around the LHC’s underground tunnel at Cern, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, near Geneva. The heavyweight particle collisions follow seven months of earlier experiments crashing protons — 200 times lighter than lead ions — at near-light speeds. The reaction created temperatures a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun, which have not been reached since the first billionths of a second following the Big Bang
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Big-Bang-recreated-in-lab-may-unravel-cosmic-mysteries/articleshow/6892296.cms#ixzz14ljbqdXT

sunrvs
sunrvs

Bush tears into Obama, says he has failed as president
NEW YORK: Former US president George W Bush has criticised the policies of his Democrat successor Barack Obama , saying he has made a “mess of relations” with Pakistan and is worried about US’s strategy on Afghanistan.

Read more: Bush tears into Obama, says he has failed as president – The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Bush-tears-into-Obama-says-he-has-failed-as-president/articleshow/6892452.cms#ixzz14ll1disW

sunrvs
sunrvs

Silver futures cross Rs 41,000 per kg for first time ever

NEW DELHI: Continuing its record-setting spree, silver futures prices went past Rs 41,000 per kg level for the first time ever today after the white metal surged to a fresh 30-year high in global markets.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Silver-futures-cross-Rs-41000-per-kg-for-first-time-ever/articleshow/6893858.cms#ixzz14llGXQsm

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

On board 11/8 9:39P here in Hawaii with 153 entries already, ending with sunrvs 11/9 4:39P.

rafael, affirmative on spaghetti, because I was #1 once and that was a super treat even missed the 1,000 comments mark by one on Ben’s last post when hopesprings got it.

LOL here, spaghetti, join the fun.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

positivechange
positivechange

Rafael, 6:50am

“Forgiving is cool, but do it with caution else you’ll become a fool.”

You had some very good points in your post. Lines need to be drawn and one important one is to respect one’s self and respect others.

Respect.

sunrvs
sunrvs

VIDEO: Blue-Colored UFO in Centreville
CENTREVILLE, Va. – Some people in Centreville are talking about a bright blue light spotted moving in the sky Wednesday night. But no one seems to have an explanation for this unidentified flying object.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/virginia/video-blue-colored-ufo-in-centreville-110410

positivechange
positivechange

Rafael,

One issue that effects us all is described in your post:

“Of course one thing is being egoistic and wanting to remain rich and prosperous, and live the great jet-set life, and a very different one is drinking blood, getting hard-ons through others sufferings, eating humans, raping children and babies, and well, you know the rest…
The first ones mainly are unconscious wrongly educated humans, the second ones are very conscious of what they do, which is on purpose.”

Most organizations, universities corporations and governments have made sure that only people who play along and support the game that got us into this mess have thrived. This has ensured that many, many management positions are occupied with people who are not necessarily the most competent.

What is the right remedy, I don’t know. But we could start with economy flights, public transportation and 2-star hotels. A new kind of jet-set life where the reward is gratitude from the people.

sunrvs
sunrvs

Look out, your medicine is watching you

(Reuters) – Novartis AG plans to seek regulatory approval within 18 months for a pioneering tablet containing an embedded microchip, bringing the concept of “smart-pill” technology a step closer.

The initial program will use one of the Swiss firm’s established drugs taken by transplant patients to avoid organ rejection. But Trevor Mundel, global head of development, believes the concept can be applied to many other pills.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A754720101108

sunrvs
sunrvs

World Bank chief surprises with gold standard idea

LONDON — Leading economies should consider adopting a modified global gold standard to guide currency rates, World Bank president Robert Zoellick said on Monday in a surprise proposal before a potentially acrimonious G20 summit.

Writing in the Financial Times, Zoellick called for a new system of floating currencies as a successor to the Bretton Woods fixed-exchange rate regime, which broke down in the early 1970s and involved measuring currency rates against gold.

The former U.S. trade representative, who served in several Republican administrations, said the new system “is likely to need to involve the dollar, the euro, the yen, the pound and (a Chinese yuan) that moves towards internationalisation and then an open capital account.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40071358/ns/business-world_business/

sunrvs
sunrvs

Gerald Celente – “The Global Economy’s In Collapse” – on Irish Radio 3/11/2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_rr8tfTc8&feature=player_embedded#at=315

g7enn
g7enn

RED ALERT: BUY FOOD NOW!!

The Church did not restrain the sexuality of its priests or the expression of sexuality in previous centuries as much as it tried to divorce the expression of love and devotion from sexuality. (This appears to be operating in movies and, in particular, the human male’s relationship to sexuality as focused on physical performance).

A high percentage of priests of the Middle ages, for example, had illegitimate children. These were considered products of the weak and lustful-bad enough, but considering man’s fallen state understandable lapses. Such situations were overlooked, if not condoned, as long as a priest’s love and devotion still belonged to the Church and were not “squandered” upon the mother of such offspiring…

The Five Myths of Masculinity

What $1,400 Gold Means for Silver Stocks

Bernanke Ignites the Gold and Silver Rocket Surge

Webster Tarpley: Tea Party Consist of CIA Dupes

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

dingiem
dingiem

Bond insurer Ambac files for bankruptcy

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A75EW20101108

According to RoadToRoota, it was a big player in the market…

dingiem
dingiem

From RoadToRoota:

This is a VERY, VERY BIG problem for the Global Financial System as Ambac was a huge player in Credit Default Swaps, Mortgage Backed Securities and all other derivatives. It’s ALL about COUNTER PARTY RISK!!!

Bond insurer Ambac files for bankruptcy
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A75EW20101108

We’ll be lucky if the banks last another week.

It’s all happening NOW!

Tick, tick, tick…

Bix

sunrvs
sunrvs

Bank ATMs
Consider this report from a reader who is actually in the ATM business:

“George, I work with a business partner in the [region redacted] . We have combined between us 180 ATM machines that we service, Cash Load. In order to do this we NEED to order the money, 20’s only from several banks on a weekly basis. This is a considerable amount weekly, 380k plus. Here is the interesting piece that is developing: In the past several weeks 4 of the MAJOR banks have informed us that they can no longer provide us with the cash for our business. Now the problem is that it is OUR money we are taking out!

So speaking with bank “personnel” on the side my question was this, what is going on? how come we cannot take OUR money out? Answer: “they” are not authorized to hold, carry or have on hand anymore more than a certain amount of cash on hand! The amount we are getting, even though it is out of our account, they cannot order or have on hand that amount of cash at any time now. I am not talking small banks…large banks [large money center bank in America name redacted] etc…!

http://www.urbansurvival.com/

sunrvs
sunrvs

Is An ATM Cash Shortage Coming?

While we have no way to confirm or refute the validity of this statement presented by a supposed ATM business insider on Steve Quayle.com, it does bring up an interesting point regarding how banks may be conserving “petty cash.” Of course, if this perspective is true, it validates concerns about bank capitalization, and explains the reason why the FDIC recently expanded insurance on checking accounts from $250,000 to infinity in an attempt to get Americans to put their money in their friendly naighborhood bank.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/atm-cash-shortage-coming

sunrvs
sunrvs

Pace of U.S. bank failures not seen in 2 decades

Total of 143 financial institutions shut in 2010 surpasses last year’s high
11/6/2010 12:36:57 AM ET
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40034941/ns/bu…t_a_crossroads/

sunrvs
sunrvs

It Begins: Military’s Cyberwar Command Is Fully Operational

The Department of Defense announced that the military’s new command for protecting its networks against cyberassault had achieved “full operational capability,” meaning the new U.S. Cyber Command, which opened for business in May, is 100 percent ready for duty, just a month behind schedule. Not that “full operational capability” fills in many of the blanks about when it’s acceptable for Cyber Command to attack a foreign network or how deeply it’ll be involved in the civilian internet.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/it-begins-militarys-cyberwar-command-is-fully-operational/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WiredDangerRoom+%28Blog+-+Danger+Room%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

dingiem
dingiem

When is Timothy Geithner going to be sacked?

g7enn
g7enn

I experienced a major computer spy ware attack early yesterday morning. It transpired, if I recall correctly, while searching information vis a vis the nuclear facility near Phoenix, AZ, the three unit one. It was one of those attacks which leaves one fighting for control of one’s computer, where a sign pop up saying you have 145 trojans on your computer and it needs to be scanned, this will do that, simply click okay. Well, I didn’t click okay and fought for 10 very tense minutes to regain control of my computer, including turning it off, only to find it still in the control of this virus. Finally I succeeded in regaining control by doing a restart, but one needed to be quick because a pop-up prevented me from doing a restart without first clicking on cancel (viral scan) almost instantly. When I finally proceeded with a Norton scan on my Mac, it found nothing? I’ve owned this Mac for about 2 months and never experienced this problem before.

If there were to be an attack, I would guess today, 11/09/10 about dinner time, in the SW part of the US for reasons already mentioned. I am concerned, but despite my speculation, I think the chances of an attack today are unlikely. Having said that I think any time we could be in for a financial collapse due to the dollar collapse, for reasons many of you have suggested, and I think the ever increasing rapidity of the silver gold rise with the soon to be skyrocketing of prices of oil and natural gas (and of other commodities) are foreshadowing this hyperinflationary collapse.

God Bless

dingiem
dingiem

Ah I was the 3rd who dropped the ball on the Ambac bankruptcy 🙂

sunrvs
sunrvs

Unit offline at South Texas nuke plant
One of the two nuclear power reactors at the South Texas Project nuclear power plant near Bay City tripped offline this morning when switchgear equipment failed.

A combination of fuses and electrical disconnect equipment in Unit 2′s electric auxiliary building failed at about 10:38 a.m. on Wednesday, leading to an undervoltage that triggered an automatic shutdown of the unit, says STP spokesman Buddy Eller.
Wednesday, November 3, 2010 at 3:46 PM by Tom Fowler
http://fuelfix.com/energywatch/2010/11/03/…xas-nuke-plant

dingiem
dingiem

3 Nuclear plants out of order now?

sunrvs
sunrvs

Call of Duty: Black Ops launched
By Daniel Emery Technology reporter, BBC News
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11708139

The game called ‘Call of Duty 2’ is being over hyped for release on the 9th of November 2010? What if the Simpsons episode is highlighting a 9 as a 6 mirrored? Notice how this game is known as black-ops? Are they simply bragging 9/11 was a black-op as we all know or are they claiming another event? Why would this have been on the front page of BBC News?

“Gamers play as a CIA operative or Special Forces agent; members of a clandestine agency tasked with uncovering a Soviet chemical weapon code named Nova-6 during the Cold
War”
There is also a bonus multi player level where users have to defend Washington

sunrvs
sunrvs

When Benjamin Netanyahu was in London on the 7th of July 2005? What happened that day? A false flag intelligence bombing took place known as 7/7 which ended up being blamed on the universal C.I.A false proxy strawman known as Al-CIA-dah.( Al Qae Da ) Now go back to 2006 and do you remember that massive nuclear drill which was taking place in Houston, Texas? This was highlighted by Captain Eric May. Now what part of the mainland of the united states of America do you think is the wildest of all? Yes its Texas who’s always been a law onto themselves. So wouldn’t it make sense to pop a nuke or biological false flag event down there? Why? Well you’ll have a far greater chance of acceptance of the Martial Law than if it happens elsewhere thats for sure.

Nuclear attack warning story dismissed

By TJ Aulds
Published February 2, 2006
http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?…66022542546e363

sunrvs
sunrvs

The Lone Star Iconoclast ~ By Captain Eric H. May Intelligence Editor

HOUSTON, 11/7/10 — I have curtailed my in-progress weekend column in order to pass critical intelligence to my publishers and readers. Please forward it to all contacts — especially law enforcement and military. Immediately below find the key points to justify this dire report. Long experience has taught me that links can vanish, but titles are more durable. Should any links in this article fail, please search for the title. — CM

1. Nuclear drill puts national focus on Kings Bay, http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2010-11-06/story/nuclear-drill-puts-national-focus-kings-bay87.
2. Netanyahu to attend Jewish Federations GA in New Orleans, but no Obama meet, http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-to-attend-jewish-federations-ga-in-new-orleans-but-no-obama-meet-1.32212288.
3. 34 warships sent from US for Obama visit, http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-6445989.
4. Executive Order–Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice, http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/04/executive-order-order-succession-within-department-justice90.
5. Unit offline at South Texas nuke plant, http://fuelfix.com/energywatch/2010/11/03/unit-offline-at-south-texas-nuke-plant/91.

Summary: With Obama absent, Biden will be hosting Netanyahu through Tuesday. Between Obama’s departure and Bibi’s arrival, a long-planned but just-revealed nuclear National Level Exercise began. The most likely attack zone is in the Houston region, inside a triangle between these prominent points

* Texas A&M (90 miles northwest)
* Beaumont (90 miles to our east)
* Bay City (90 miles to our south)

The most striking feature of this false flag set up is its similarity to another nuclear exercise, which targeted the BP refinery at Texas City, which BP journalists at the Daily News tried to conceal with a revealing attempt at a cover-up article, Nuclear attack warning story dismissed, http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=966022542546e36392.

For a more accurate account of the events, refer to the four-story investigative series published by the Arctic Beacon in The 1/31 Nuke:Proof for Ron Paul, http://tinyurl.com/3lp37a93.

My most recent article was Terror Targets Houston/Chicago, http://www.educationnews.org/political/terrorism/102196.html94. The next most endangered city is Chicago, which is the focus of my incomplete article below:

Houston Nuke & Chicago Code
(Guy Fawkes Day — Veterans Day?)
“Ghost Troop cybercavalry has defined the state of the art in the infowar the same way air-cavalry defined a new set of tactics in Vietnam. We have been anticipating false flag attempts under the Bush and Obama administrations. Ghost Troop analyses have been sizzling lately because of their Houston/Chicago operations model, now six years old, which has nearly always had Houston and Chicago as its primary and secondary targets. Our most recent article is right on target.” — CSM Merlin Neadow, Chief, Cyberrecon

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/the-lone-star-iconoclast-by-captain-eric-h-may-intelligence-editor/

sunrvs
sunrvs

Netanyahu Tells Biden Israel Impatient with Iran Sanctions

Kurt Nimmo
November 8, 2020
http://www.infowars.com/netanyahu-tells-bi…iran-sanctions/

Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu told U.S. vice president Joe Biden on Sunday only a “credible military threat can deter Iran from building a nuclear weapon,” according to Reuters. Sources in Israel report growing impatience with economic sanctions imposed on Iran, described by the Israelis as diplomacy. Netanyahu pulled Biden aside at the American Jewish conference in New Orleans.

sunrvs
sunrvs

Trial reveals nuclear black market

Tue Nov 9, 2010 12:38AM
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/150193.html

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

No matter how closely something may resemble the past today, it is not nor ever will be exactly the same. Today will not be there tomorrow, and tomorrow is an opportunity to experience something new that wasn’t there yesterday. And there you have it hope in the making.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
merek and darylluke….That Chinese proverb is not meant to be a good omen.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
lew…

About plans being setup to change. Tis true, plans for the High Rite Ceremony here on Kauai are changing due to the location site being too small. Advertising an event is an open invitation, no RSVP. It’s all about being Pono, and that is not necessarily a negative connotation, it means we won’t need to lodge in a mountain cabin, freezing our okole in the month of November/December. I’m thinking of being a guest in a warm cozy hotel room near the beach. Now that’s a plan I’m looking forward to.

Signing off the board 11/9 12:25A with dingiem 11/9 6:38P.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

casar1973
casar1973

Media reports that Obama has landed in Indonesia, which then makes Ben´s report flawed, as it claims Obama had cancelled the trip. What else is wrong in this batch?

travelman
travelman

Sorry Hope –

Every time I think about California, I remember the time my boys, from a base south of L.A. where I was training, asked me if I wanted to go fishing. So we set out twenty miles or so out to sea at 4am, half asleep. About two hours later, I was reaching for my McDonald Fish fillet and diet coke and realized that we didn’t have fishing poles, so I asked the kind proprietor of the vessel, yes, my friend, and he pointed to the corner of the open area of the vessel. There sat a box that had an all to familiar look to it. I let it go, looking to not be a lughead that early in the morning. Anyway, we get to THE magical fishing spot and out comes the box. I was asked if I was ready to fish, nodded to the affirmative and was handed a net. Then, one of the guys,a SEAL team operator, pulls out one of the cakes, caps it, counts down a few intense moments and lobs the cake into the ocean. A small plume, extro vertas, develops and what seemed to be a few million fish showed there bright smiling faces. We got all of the fish we wanted, went home, sat on the beach and at fish stew. The best damn meal I think I have every had.

The second experience was while I was in a town called Yorba Linda … is that place still there? I won’t bore you with the details but lets say that I would believe that even a Californian would consider that place the haven of fruits and nuts.

Then there are the beer drinkers in wine country … I will never figure that one out. Somehow grabbing a wine glass like a mug is a little telling but they do extend their pinky.

I’m just a midwestern boy … show me a corn field and a woman that ate from that field and I am happy. (lol)

Anyway, back to Leo … for a while there the Story’s stories were pretty good … especially regarding the settlements. Prior to that were the stories about Wanta … usually the rants about what happened to Wanta and the deeds he perfected. You have to remember the story was just and bad about conspiracy as the rest of the nuts running around with configurations of the mind. This is why the government black hats don’t need to dis-info anybody, just look at the “intel passing” that goes on here. Everyone has a source … well folks … Aunt Millie is not a source …

Everyone’s in a lather about the banking, global finances, etc. One comment and everyone is off to the races thinking the world is coming to an end … exactly like chicken little. It’s a double edge sword … on one hand we need to always question and have the freedom to do so … on the other hand we need to do it in a spirit that is truthful and productive. Like when I was jousting with that guy that was having his 50 b-day this weekend … obviously, he couldn’t have been that much of an idiot and was having fun and everyone knew it but some of the stuff that comes up here is … well … unadulterated B.S.

Nobody here knows what HARPP does except that Jesse did a show with info from a bunch of conspiracy guys. I saw the show and very much appreciate the info but I also realized the Jesse is the show and his personna is to use his WWE days personality as a draw. Is Harpp used to do things … hell yes but let’s not get to the point wherein it’s going to be used to rip a cavern through the middle of the United States, destroy the crux of humanity and provide a TBEAM weapon to hold over the heads of mankind … maybee, we need to stick with the pros and cons of a human chip first before a scale and conquer the TBEAM. Now watch, some idiot lune is going to take my words and use them to create a story that a GMAN named TMAN on this and that board has exposed everything about HARPP and it’s all true because I saw the “INTEL”. Can I find out … sure. Do I care … no. But notice it is not my area of expertise and I am not commenting … therefore, I am part of the conspiracy, and I am hiding something and everyone in this space will tell me so.

Let’s be real and take a show of hands … Class … does anybody really believe that the Federal Reserve is going to do something to the San Andeas fault to have California fall into the same fate as Atlantis. frankly, I didn’t even read past the first few paragraphs .. why? … ‘caus it’s bullshit. Anyone that wants to believe it should go to the local CVS, purchase an enima and stick it in your ear. Hopefully, you’ll feel more refreshed and YOU’LL THINK STRAIGHT.

Fulford, Heneghan, Story and all of the rest of the conspiracy guys love to toss crap out there to create a talk line that serves there own ego’s and funds their pocketbooks. When Paladin told me about this guy that had a board with lots of theorums and he started telling me about them … I rolled my eyes … In fact, I checked on Fulford …’caus I have the “resources” to do so … he has an interesting background that I don’t believe he has told you all about. One of his good friends that speak to him just before he releases more articles and commentary should ask why he has his fanny parked in Japan and the East.

Anyway, so much for the editorial, back to Wanta … there is no $27T in some clandestine account earmarked for the warlords that really should comeback to the United states for financial relief of the current economics problems. Read all of the stuff on Wanta and I think you will see this.

Hope, my dear, I am about the most caustic person in the world, or so I am told, because the pressure of the truth is great and vast. It has gotten to the point that I know what man, as a term, is going to do before it happens. Remember, the thought that I (meaning you) will know what your kids will do prior to them doing it. Thats the position I am in … I know to much, have interrogated to many people, played to many games in the world … all for the “Good of something” … and rightfully so. We have stopped things that would blow your mind and the minds of many of the people here. Unfortunately, if I told the stories in a forum like this, then I would have an internet site and a blog of my own collecting good hard earned dollars from you folks ’cause I can tell true stories that are far better than the best of the conspiracy guys.

I promise to protect California to the best of my ability but you have to send avocados.

TMAN

dingiem
dingiem

“I am about the most caustic person in the world, or so I am told, because the pressure of the truth is great and vast. It has gotten to the point that I know what man, as a term, is going to do before it happens. Remember, the thought that I (meaning you) will know what your kids will do prior to them doing it. Thats the position I am in … I know to much, have interrogated to many people, played to many games in the world … all for the “Good of something” … and rightfully so. We have stopped things that would blow your mind and the minds of many of the people here. Unfortunately, if I told the stories in a forum like this, then I would have an internet site and a blog of my own collecting good hard earned dollars from you folks ’cause I can tell true stories that are far better than the best of the conspiracy guys.
I promise to protect California to the best of my ability but you have to send avocados.”

So your are the one and only crackpot we have all been waiting for! Man where have you been! Pssst…hey…maybe you should get rid of the Aspartaam laden diet coke and the chemicals infested McDonalds “fish filet”, it certainly seems it is/was frying your brains 🙂

Man, you’re so funny! As are the rest of your gang Paladin, Hopesprings and Leowannabeep.

Hey, no sweat man, you’re doing your roles and we are doing ours.

Ain’t that great? 🙂

dingiem
dingiem

…and I forgot Darylluke “may the schwarz be with you” 🙂

wbstreck
wbstreck

THESE TRAITOROUS KAZHAR JEW BASTARDS THAT HAVE BEEN USING THE MSM TO TRICK, STEAL AND CAJOLE WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HORIZONTALIZED. OPEN THE SEASON ON THEM, BEFORE THEY DO ANY MORE DAMAGE.

tblkacs
tblkacs

Yesterday´s google logo was “fun”. There is indeed a lot of funny ambiguity in it. Officially, it is explained as the “celebration of 115 years since discovery of X-rays”. Even the symbolic meaning of the little pigeon among the bones is explained.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1327641/X-Rays-Google-doodle-celebrates-115-years.html

The Daily Mail article, however, misses to explain a much more visible symbol in the picture. Have a look at the two o letters, and the subsequent g letter. They are turned into 698 at the first glance, but if you give it a second try, you´ll discover they are actually rotated 666! It is also of symbolic value that both an RTG machine and a nuclear bomb emit x-rays.

ksa711
ksa711

Did “Fix the future” leave ?

sunrvs
sunrvs

UK nuke station denies Stuxnet shutdown
Posted in Crime, 2nd November 2010 15:42 GMT
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/02/ed…uclear_stuxnet/

A British nuclear power station suffering an “unplanned outage” has categorically denied any link to the sophisticated Stuxnet worm.

One of two reactors at Heysham 1, owned by French energy giant EDF, was taken offline yesterday.

Parts of the site are run by Siemens S7 systems, prompting suggestions the sophisticated worm is to blame for the shutdown

“There is absolutely no link between the cause of Heysham 1’s trip yesterday and any ‘cyber security’ issues”.

Security researchers discovered earlier this year that Stuxnet exploits vulnerabilities in the type of Siemens control system used at Heysham, and in Microsoft Windows.

The sophistication of the attack – the EU information security agency ENISA called it “a new class and dimension of malware”

siyem
siyem

Tman try to said craps about others here like mr fulford.. But he him self still eating diet come and mc donald.. Wahaha..

siyem
siyem

Is getting more negative in this blog now, some of them exist here 24/7.. To me thats a good sign, coz the truth is going to reveal really2 soon,

hopesprings
hopesprings

Good morning gang!

Tman, actually i have done a bit a homework on HAARP (not harrp). I even interviewed Dr. Begich in Alaska, where the more powerful radio array is. You cannot make light of this as a weather weapon–too many of the gargoyles have said they would own the weather…

There is no doubt that all sorts of fears are and will be manufactured on the internet for control; but, we simply cannot deny that US is bankrupt and that money as we know is vanishing. This is serious business since no one can see the outcome

OUT OF THE ASHES OF this financial crime against humanity the people must rise and regain control. This is the moment!
When the enemy is weak.

Google logo: it was pure fun and diversion to look into its meaning yesterday. We all know that the illums are big on overt symbology so for all we know there was hidden meaning.

ksa711
ksa711

*********** HOPE ******************************

On getting sleep; You need to invest in a quality Salt .What works for me is (Pink Alaea Hawaiian sea salt) ,It has the trace minerals and electrolytes ,that saturate your adrenal glands ,which in turn allow you to produce adrenaline. Adrenaline gives you focus, when you are awake and deep sleep when you are not .It will also aid in the digestion of food, producing good HCL stomach acid .Sleeping aids treat “the fruit not the root ” of the problem . Throw out your white table salt it is poison, it has toxic tag-a-longs to prevent clumping,is heated to over 2000 degrees and will raise your BP buy clogging your kidneys . On the other hand pink salt will heal your kidneys help you maintain fluid balance and proper weight A good source of pink salt is;www. healthline.cc ask for pink salt $7.00 worth will last 6 months -800-370-3447 If you are premenopausal you may also benefit from their product Xeno-Detox , It is a detoxifier of Xeno-estrogenic compounds (e.g., pesticides,synthetic hormones toxic chemicals ) Rich in natural iodine to support your thyroid . as a caveat in ancient times Salt was traded ounce par ounce for Gold .

P.S. I have no financial interest in this, only your good health

dingiem
dingiem

Phantom jobs created in a mythical recovery?

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6555.shtml

asha4u
asha4u

dingiem on November 9, 2010 @ 8:01 pm:
could’nt have said it better… What a pitiful ‘know-nothing-be-proud-of-it’ figur of tragic this red neck is… Remembers me a bit of the Col. Nathan R. Jessep character, played by Jack Nicholson in the movie ‘A Few Good Men’.

T-Man possible oversaw the motto I had tryed to establish with the first entry by making just a point as there was no real point to make a point… 🙂

dingiem
dingiem

In the coming weeks and months some people will try to get even more aggressive to defend their statements.

It is also part of the changing of our bodies with the incoming energies, that people need to blow of some steam. It happens to me too, I have still things to learn, eventually to find my balance 🙂

travelman
travelman

… that didn’t take long … glad to see the troops are watching and looking for the vermin …

Nothing like firing up the troops with the truth … this is kind of like back in your teens and hating your parents for what they stand for … then like someone waved a magic wand over your head you suddenly see your parents point of view in your twenties … or for the more difficult child, their thirties when they are on the couch with a psychologist.

Like I said you better weigh all of what you hear … you only have so many hours in a year and so many five year plans … don’t waste it on non-sense … even if your right and you live in the western-european world, what choices do you have and where do you think it is better … why not evaluate the truth and when you are shakin’ your fists at the sky the next time, maybe someone will listen. Truth is, at least your here discussing and looking for answers, well maybe most of you, others maybe not so much. If you have been here for a year or two, evaluate everything and see what has been true. If you want to discuss reality, than start another blog and leave the conquest stuff to the others to banter about.

That’s what we do … evaluate the truth.

Real soon I am going back overseas to fix certain things that man has done .. some of which is NWO stuff … yes that is real … I will have my life on the line for you including dighem and siyem … one of which doesn’t live in the US and the other hasn’t stated … but both with be the beneficiary of the efforts directly.

So let me ask … with all of the information you have attained … what have you done with it … have you fought a cause with it, had a conversation with someone that would make a difference with it, stood at the gates of your government officials and yelled it to them … or have you sat in this room and just yacked and scratched trying to figure it out … if you are trying to figure it out then a contrarian voice can be placed in in the converwation for balance.

So, if you think that you have been invaded, or are going to see something miraculous, just let the med’s sink in a little further. I am one guy that was brought to the table … this is my view of the world because in the great voice of one of our intoxicated friends on his birthday … I AM WHAT I AM … LOL. Ya’ have to have a sense of humor about it … after all where are you going to go if you don’t help in fixing it.

Let me ask … if you has to pick up a weapon and defend you and your family would you do it. If you didn’t have the weapon what would you do … to some of us that is a very real question because on this side of the table that is a very single question could be the difference in life, liberty and justice for all. Regardless of what you think of us big bad government boys … tough. Do something that will make a difference, we do everyday … keeping the balance, knowing who’s who and what’s what. When one of ours is out of line we handle it internally … some sooner than later.

TMAN… over and out.

hopesprings
hopesprings

Thanks Ksa!

Thrilling post. I have only consumed pink natural sea salt for almost a year now. I totally agree. But you added a lot of info I did not know. Mine comes from an “ancient sea bed in south central Utah”, Redmond Sea Salt. Do you know this brand? Nothing can beat he purity of Hawaii I bet.

Everybody, I would get out there and buy pink salt for your arsenal–tasty and healthy.

sunrvs
sunrvs

Here Comes The Sun And I Say…’Uh Oh’

The Sun goes through cycles. Quiet ones, then not-so-quiet. In his new book Chasing The Sun, Richard Cohen says the next not-so-quiet phase “is expected to start sometime between 2010 and 2012” which means our Sun will soon have a fit of extra-violent explosions that release more than a billion tons of matter into space at millions of miles per hour. These are called coronal mass ejections. There will be more of them.

These loops of flame fly up tens of thousands of miles like rubber bands that stretch and twist until they break, flinging matter outward. NASA has released footage of one of these storms (and just to make this extra exciting I’m showing you NASA’s ultraviolet version posted by Alexander Trevi of pruned.blogspot.com and Geoff Manaugh of BLDGBLOG.blogspot.com with help from a band called Main playing their “Haloform III”).
http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2010/11/03/131044398/here-comes-the-sun-and-i-say-uh-oh?sc=fb&cc=fp

hopesprings
hopesprings

Possible currency scenarios:

Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) following the fall of Bretton Woods: purely paper–that is the super-national currency right now.

The IMF are always “hit men”–they always spell death. We have to make sure US does not fall under control of the IMF.
This wolf is gnawing at US doors. The danger is that the US will have to submit to IMF–we all know how bad that can be. Asset stripping, loss of social infrastructure…

Euro and yen cannot replace the US–so in comes the SDRs. Bancor are SDRs. Just re-branding.

So we may have a bad confection coming.

“We need a basket of currencies of the most viable. They must have fixed parodies”, Tarpley says.

Frankly, I don’t like anything global, supernational. If only we could hear of local power. Too small to fail. If only we could add this layer of power, immune to global collapse.

sunrvs
sunrvs

Solar numerics, Warning for Indonesia (se asia plate – sw pacific plate boundary region), and addendums….
November 8, 2010

The 26,000 year solar winding (magnetic pressure) cycle, which is displayed to humans (and other life) here on terra in the form of the ‘sun spot cycle’ that is variously considered to be either 22 years or 11 years in length begins with the now, somewhat notorious, 87 day magnetic winding cycle.
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/solnums.html

sunrvs
sunrvs

Solar Shield–Protecting the North American Power Grid
By NASA Science
Nov 8, 2010 – 8:27:55 AM

Every hundred years or so, a solar storm comes along so potent it fills the skies of Earth with blood-red auroras, makes compass needles point in the wrong direction, and sends electric currents coursing through the planet’s topsoil. The most famous such storm, the Carrington Event of 1859, actually shocked telegraph operators and set some of their offices on fire.
http://www.earthchangesmedia.com/secure/3247.326/article-9162529457.php

ksa711
ksa711

*********************** Hope **************************
Yes I use Readman salt, I buy the 10# rocks for our horses.

You might need to up the amount you take. You can do this by preparing a sole’ drink in the AM . This interview on CMN with Barbara Marciniak does a better job at explaining what I mean http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/interviews/bmarciniak.htm
Also Dr.Bob Marshall http://www.healthline has a great daily radio show .

dan1uc

siyem undersand your frustration, so lets see if we can change the mood and direction here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hhlisyX0w
all of you here need to WTFU.I have been here in the past couple of weeks’and the shit i have had to read through at times makes me sick to my stomic , when one thing can bring it all to an end the truth and should be focused on till its end, “us” an them .
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dan1uc?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/ibcgPzd9ncw

hopesprings
hopesprings

Tman:

No worries. I love your posts. WE need all type of voices. And ones that keep up discerning too.

You get more interesting with each post.

Here is a rhetorical question:
Why are you here? Why are you giving us any time?
(I say this respectfully with no attitude.)
Is this blog getting traction as something out of the ordinary?
Were you asked to come here and control someone’s voice?

I am so curious about your upcoming trip. If only I were in a room with you… Is this related to the currency fiasco?
Any missing trillions? C’mon. Just tell me. I won’t tell anyone in this blog.

FAVOR:
Please tell me/us what we should be focused on. What is real. What do you think is coming down over these upcoming months?

I am one of those that does things. And that yes would shoot an enemy down if I had a gun. I have butter knives and my karate! Am starting a workout regime that should turn me into Emma Peele in a 3 months. You should see me flip a 250 pound man-thwack! makes quite a sound. There are ways to defend one’s compound that are very interesting.

My current strategy is too infiltrate the corporate world and change from the inside and also stem small business which the NWO is trying to kill.

So I await your next with enthusiasm!

ksa711
ksa711

****************** HOPE **************************

correction on Dr.Bob Marshall his site is http://healthline.cc/

not health.com

Dreamlander

PATRIOT ACT COMPLIANCE PROBABLE CAUSE OF ATM CASH SHORTAGE
Extracted from George Ure’s URBAN SURVIVAL Blog
Hi George,
Just thought I’d drop you a note to explain what I believe is the most reasonable explanation behind your other reader being unable to obtain sufficient cash for his ATM fleet. I think it is most likely because of the issue we (the banking industry) are having with adhering to the new laws and regulations imposed upon us by the Patriot Act, among others.
What most people outside of banking may not realize, is that all of numerous “War on Terror” laws essentially forced banks into becoming the policing arm of the Federal Government. We are now awash in new and more stringent regulations with regards to money laundering. One of the more stringent requirements is how we deal with money service businesses such as privately owned ATM providers, payday loan companies, and check cashing businesses. In a nutshell, we have to account for the cash that is withdrawn (or deposited) as having a “reasonable purpose,” otherwise, we have to submit CTR’s (currency transaction reports) and/or SAR’s (suspicious activity reports) to the Fed.
Thus, the issue at hand comes down to whether or not to expense time and personnel to audit the business on a continual basis. This may or may not be worth the effort (read “profitable”) for some banks and it is very reasonable that they would walk away from these types of customers. With the margin squeeze on deposit over the past two years, regardless how much the ATM guy has in balances, the banks are probably not earning enough to justify the expense, and/or justify the risk / hassle.
Also, privately owned ATM’s compete with bank owned ATM’s and we can’t have that now, can we?
As to whether this is a conspiracy, I’ll leave that up to you and my fellow readers. I shall only begin to worry when bank’s are unable to keep their own ATM’s full.
http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Dreamlander

DA-GONG [China Rating Agency] DOWN GRADED US SOVEREIGN CREDIT RATING
Da-gong has downgraded the local and foreign currency long term sovereign credit rating of the United States of America (hereinafter referred to as “United States” ) from “AA” to “A+“, which reflects its deteriorating debt repayment capability and drastic decline of the government’s intention of debt repayment.

The serious defects in the United States economic development and management model will lead to the long-term recession of its national economy, fundamentally lowering the national solvency. The new round of quantitative easing monetary policy adopted by the Federal Reserve has brought about an obvious trend of depreciation of the U.S. dollar, and the continuation and deepening of credit crisis in the U.S. Such a move entirely encroaches on the interests of the creditors, indicating the decline of the U.S. government’s intention of debt repayment. Analysis shows that the crisis confronting the U.S. cannot be ultimately resolved through currency depreciation. On the contrary, it is likely that an overall crisis might be triggered by the U.S. government’s policy to continuously depreciate the U.S. dollar against the will of creditors.
Link to full version of DA-GONG (pdf) report:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/Dagong%20US.pdf

aztimagnetiko
aztimagnetiko

Tman,
Well said. Recently I had to make a choice… Continue to do not much other than to Yell, waving my arms around, and trying desperately to help others wake up–those capable of such a painful process of dying to their illusions of the world and having the courage and intellectual integrity to see it as it is–or joining the fight from the ‘inside’, along with other Patriot White Hats, and work to undermine, defeat, and cleanse the miscreants and their corruption from our lands and from our world.

I guess its all about what you are willing to risk your life for… I don’t give a rats ass for our government as it is a putrid parody of what it once was, but I would risk my life for the Constitution–for its restoration–and for the Bill of Rights, and for the restoration of The Republic for which I Stand, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for ALL. Yes, that I would defend at the risk of my life, for the sake of my familly, my neighbors and friends, and in solidarity with people like you who would do the same.

I am Buddhist (at least such is my closest spiritual orientation) and as such I know the gravity of what it means to take up Arms, to sight along a barrel, and to pull the trigger with intent to take a life in the cause of Liberty. There are grave repercussions to doing so; yet, if need be (and I pray that I never need to) I am prepared, and moreover capable, of pulling the trigger. Though my favored weapons are technology and cybersec software suites, I would yield the firearm if required.

I believe there is a quiet, yet hot, civil war raging within the DoD and Intelligence agencies, between American Patriots and those miserable creatures that have literally sold themselves to ‘Satan’ (extra dimensional alien predators). If allowed the opportunity I am prepared to join that fight.

I have not heard from Paladin, is he OK? I asked him to put us in contact as I am in the DC area but he has not responded since several days ago…

–Azti Magnetiko (Magnetic Wizard in Basque)

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers,

Okay, let’s step back and analyze the news. First, since the big bond insurer is declaring bankruptcy, it will leave the FED and others naked if the bond-buying fails. (Actually, that fact is a given, so write to your Congressmen and Senators today and go on the record about the spectacular stupidity underlying this desperation ploy)

Secondly, the idiot neocons are trying to rehabilitate Bush and their plans as I have been predicting. Write to MSNBC and tell them that he is an idiot who helped to create the mess that we’re in and interviewing him insults the entire 9/11 Truth movement as well as everybody who worked to get him out of office.

Third, write to your Congressmen, Senators and local newspapers and tell them that war with Iran is not an option. It will not “stimulate” the economy because it will enrich industries like the weapons industry that aren’t going to be very active in peacetime. We need to put money into things that will benefit the peaceful times not more wars. Demand that everybody in Congress be required to DIVEST THEMSELVES of any weapons/aviation and other stocks that feed into the war machine…even in their supposedly “blind trusts.” It is not about the letter of the law, it is about the spirit and the outcomes these days.

Fifth, get ready for rough times. By the way, I am a Texan, born and raised, the image of us in the media is fairly inaccurate. The independent rugged self-sufficient Texans still exist, but they have been adulterated by self-serving Rexall wrangers born in Conneticut who don’t know that you start a chain saw AND THEN PUT IT ON THE STUMP–not the other way around unless you want to cut off a limb.

The best preparation for what is coming was in that presentation by the Russian entrepreneur who survived Russia’s fall. I cannot seem to locate that speech among the 1600 that were on the link that somebody sent to me. I am going to try again to find it.

I realize that my writing lately has not been as organized, polished and erudite as in the past. This is mostly because I am still struggling to get oxygen into my bloodstream. BTW, I believe that what I was exposed to was the H1N1 virus if this gives everybody any concept of what that influenza is like. Also, I found that whole Vitamin D works better than the D-3 being sold everywhere.

More in a minute,

nai2010

hut777
hut777

MUST SEE!!!! November 1st, 2010 a Lord Blackheath of the British House of Lords gave a 10minute speech on BBC news that a secret organization called Foundation X has more gold in its possession than all of the world gold mined in history and wants to save the world by spending this money to create jobs and prosperity. The British Government has NO COMMENT on this matter!? My research has lead me to find out which secret organization this is and it is the Knights Templar. Read part 3 for an article that discloses who the Knights Templar is and what they are trying to accomplish with this gold. Part 1 is the original aired speech on BBC. Part 2 is the follow up interview with the Lord Blackheath. This is either another false conspiracy theory or it is another leak of information that is trying to tell us that our Reality is not what we have been told for many thousands of years.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlwJPFEZ_-I

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aWTsxSOTDA

Part 3: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/11/secretive-knights-templar-make.html

aztimagnetiko
aztimagnetiko

Nai2010,
Buy a Zapper and wear it 24/7 for a few weeks…
http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/

hopesprings
hopesprings

Pastor Kilpatrick with Syd Roth in Mobile, Alabama, November 8
Miracles (woman paralyzed for 23 years walks; man dying of brain tumor healed) and prophecies (USA EQ splits it in two) for those that will hear.
Beautiful!
http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?news_iv_ctrl=-1&abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=9608

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’ members,

I wanted to make some points to the group. I read Cliff High’s reports faithfully. He called the insurance companies failure, the current situation with the mortgage fraud, the BP nightmare now unfolding (do not eat the seafood or the yellow snow–folks) and many other things currently going on. The biggest problem that he has had is not accuracy about WHAT IS GOING TO OCCUR, it is about the timing of those events. I suspect that part of the problem is that when he mentions something as a possible event, it changes the timing by virtue of making it known.

The other fact is that when industry insiders generally start the chatter on specific events. They are seeing ahead about 8 months to 2 years over the public. They will be talking about things that are going to happen a long time before those events transpire. Following that information as it moves from insider knowledge to public fact takes a while and that is what Cliff is often tracking.

Having said all that, I want to address the issue of DNA, photons and so forth. Cliff said that photons cannot change DNA. That is not necessarily true. If it were true, then other forms of radiation could not affect DNA and we know that they do. DNA is a string of amino acids. These amino acids are affected by a lot of things: chemical compounds, electricity, radiant energy spikes, SOUND and a host of other things.

The fact is that DNA is mutable. Due to the vast array of genetic sequences among the human species, DNA is not mutable in a PREDICTABLE FASHION. It changes differently depending upon the condition and structure of the DNA being exposed to a particular change agent. Is it likely that everybody’s DNA would change IN THE EXACT SAME WAY IN RESPONSE TO PHOTONS? No. Not unless there is an actual pathway created for that purpose.

Let me tell you a story. The Russians were experimenting with something that they called PSYCHOTRONICS. Psychotronics is a way to alter memories, brainwaves, organ function and thought processes with specific frequencies of electromagnetic/radio waves. The Russians developed an ORGANIC COMPUTER that controlled a transceiver intended to implant a memory that would create certain behavior patterns. They tested their setup on a small village in a remote area. The outcome was not at all what they expected.

The idea was that the villagers would be bombarded with a series of images and ideas that would make them tranquil and subservient to authority. What happened make it clear that this is an impossible dream.

Some of the villagers were unaffected. They simply did not respond to the transmission. Some villagers responded to the transmission as planned…they became passive and docile. SOME VILLAGERS BEGAN MANIFESTING EXTRASENSORY ABILITIES LIKE TELEKINESIS, TELEPATHIC PROJECTION, TELEPATHIC RECEPTION and some became capable of healing others with their thoughts.

Russian politicians rushed to make psychotronics illegal to use in the Soviet Union. While many were content to believe that the politicians realized the inhumanity of twiddling with thoughts and memories, I believe that they outlawed these devices because of the spectacular potential for creating people WHOSE NEW POWERS MADE THEM IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL.

Seriously, how could you control somebody that could take guns away with their mind? Or make the bullets turn around and head in the direction of their shooter? How would you control people who could hear your thoughts about controlling them? How would you control people who could transmit thoughts that said, “The police are trying to launch martial law.”

According to a couple of scientists who wrote about this trial (known as Project Zombie), Dick Cheney showed up in Russia about the time of the collapse. He bought the project hardware and took it to the states. I know that it is being used because I found RFPs that listed these devices in them. (i.e. the organic computer and transmitter)

Now, if the US were planning to use HAARP in conjunction with this equipment to implant broadscale memories, beliefs, attitudes etc., what would happen is exactly what happened in Russia.

I suspect that the reason for the outcomes is that there are people in the world population who are genetically very close to certain offworld groups. They respond to certain frequencies by “LIGHTING UP” or recovering nascent abilities such as the ones that I described.

Some of the other things that were discovered by the scientists using these transmitters were that certain frequencies of radio waves/electromagnetic energy could clean pollution out of water, alter chemical compositions and a whole host of other wonderful things—much like what Royal Rife discovered. In short, we could have been using these things to make this world a better place INSTEAD OF AS THE PTW USED THEM TO TO SUBJUGATE AND DIMINISH OTHER HUMANS.

Think about these things and then reconsider the photon stuff. We don’t know what will happen from the photons, well, we know a few things. Too many photons can cause radiation sickness just like a nuclear bomb. They can also burn out electrical circuits. It is not wise to plan to bathe in the photons as they are likely to make you ascend by making you into corpse rather than a new and improved version of yourself.

nai2010

dingiem
dingiem

I concur with aztimagnetiko to try a zapper, Nai2010.
I use it frequently and works for me. They can be quite expensive but the thing will last a life time, except the battery though 🙂

sunrvs
sunrvs

Mysterious missile lights up the sky over the Pacific

Pacific Ocean (CBS8)- A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught on video Monday evening by a KCBS news helicopter.

The spectacular contrail could easily be seen up in Los Angeles, but who launched this missile and why, remain a mystery for now.

The magnificent images were captured from the KCBS chopper around 5pm. The location of the missile was described as west of Los Angeles, north of Catalina Island, and approximately 35 miles out to sea.

A Navy spokesperson tells News 8, this wasn’t its missile. He said there was no Navy activity reported in that part of the region.
http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=13468118

gwynned
gwynned

I was just going to post something about this missile. I’m sorry a MISSILE goes off the California coast and NO ONE KNOWS what it is? There are two nuclear accidents on the East coast and we are told the fire was not significant. Huh?

Edge
Edge

I feel like Hugh Hefner–working from his bed. Gotta buy some silk pyjamas, an ascot and a pipe!
Comment by hopesprings on November 9, 2010 @ 5:38 am
————————————————————
Hope–
I see things are under control and we are still all here
this morning.
To change the subject to something lighter. your Hugh
Hefner comment brought to mind in younger times, we used
collect Playboy Centre-folds and playboy bunnie pics to
pin up in the work shop. We used to understand, right or wrong that Hugh used to test drive all his Playboy bunnies
personally, to make sure there were no fakes–

He must had a pretty stressful time. No wonder he lived
in his pajamas–Imagine him coming in the morning to his
bedroom office and having to walk by ten young ladies
already waiting for a test drive. Wonder if he had insomnia or fell asleep with a smile. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing—
Edge–

hopesprings
hopesprings

There is not doubt that HAARP technology could be used for good–if only the military had not hidden the patents as classified. Tesla and his work were destroyed. The man who held the patents suddenly died not too long ago. I can tell you Rockefeller controls these patents as I key in.

They can tune to any frequency at any strength. These microwaves can reach far. They have torn the ionosphere leaving us exposed to those photons–even GRB gamma ray bursts or any other energy bleeding into our SS. This occurred from the Alaska array. This technology is in private hands–madmen.

Delta 1.5-3hz (deep sleep), Theta 5-8hz (drowsy), Alpha 9-14hz (awake, relaxed), Beta 15-40hz (alert) brainwaves: brains while at sleep are in the low frequencies from 1.5 htz to up to 15 and higher awake. HAARP can affect entire populations with one shot, tuning in to these frequencies.

It used to be geologists used tomography but HAARP is a whole new level and now the PTB know where and how much there is anywhere on the planet. How much oil, gas, caves, water…And the scarcity propaganda is a monumental lie.

Dreamlander

Reference to comment by nai2010 on November 10, 2010 @ 12:51 am
Could this be the Russian you are looking for?
Dmitry ORLOV
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

.any updates on the mysterious missile launched off the west
coast??

hopesprings
hopesprings

MORE BANK HOLIDAY LEAKS

Bank Holiday

November 8, 2010
SG

Hello Steve

I have been watching you and hawk for about 2 yrs now and with all the talk of the Bank Holiday I have some insight on it.

I cannot disclose the Bank I work for because I would most likely lose my job. I am a Branch Manager, I work for a nationwide bank that covers one third of the U.S. Last week mainly Wednesday Nov 3rd – Saturday Nov 6th we had a huge outage all over the country debit cards were declined, debit cards were double and triple posted and checks were declined in the automated systems. This caused many problems and we were given no reason. Then it really got bad Monday Nov 8th. Yesterday was a very unusual day. I went on our secure site to view the listing of the new Branch openings and we had about 100 new openings planned for 2011 a few days a ago and yesterday we had 5. The only reason the 5 are there is because the construction is almost done. Then the real issue came. I got an email from my Regional Manager and then one from my Regional VP. I was told that all Management would be unavailable the entire week 8th-12th. There would be no Upper Management available anywhere in the country. No branch is allowed to call their Regional or VP for anything. If it is an emergency we could text them. I was not given a reason until I did some searching and found an email from another VP and the reason was “Strategic Planning Session this week “. This has never been done before in our company bringing every single upper management to one location for a week and not allowed to call them. Then I placed my cash order yesterday and was not able to place my order through my normal supplier the corporate office had to place it for me. Not normal at all.

More confirmation.

http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Money/101109.bank.holiday.html?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,727092,00.html&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhj7dStcD0LWRZMytZ2QtbDfqdB9CQ

hut777
hut777

Mysterious Missile Launches over Southern California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2qKMchcgzk

lew3
lew3

The missle was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, near Santa Maria, California (not far from my home). The missle was launched after 2, or 3 delays. The delays and the launch were covered in our local newspaper.

http://www.vandenberg.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123229784

Edge
Edge

I SEE GOLD STILL TO THE MOON–
Guess NASA must know if we are still on target and time
of arrival—

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
Edge

foodrules
foodrules

A lot of speculation and fear-mongering today (this morning where I am). It was refreshing to hear nai’s comment. Just the facts.
Nai, we hope you are better soon!! That was news about the Vit D. There is so much hype about D3. Who’s to know! What was going on that you contracted the flu; stress, exhaustion, or a specific event? We don’t want to limit our social routine but do want to be cautious. We appreciate your posts. Reason and good judgement; thank you!
~foodrules

positivechange
positivechange

hut777 1:01am

Thanks for the links. We discussed part 1 in the previous thread. Part 2 with the follow-up interview was interesting. Clearly Lord Blackheath is a nut-case 😉

The German magazine Spiegel also told the story and said he had fallen for an internet scam even bigger than the Nigerian scam. They continued in saying it confirms the demands to abolish life-time House of Lords memberships.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers,

I know about the Zappers and I might get one. I found the mysterious Russian and it is exactly who Dreamlander identified–Orlov. I have made copies of the speech that he gave. It turns out that the person who sent the link to me was wrong. The speech was not at the Commonwealth Club. It was at another club and probably followed the publication of a book written by Orlov comparing the US’s situation to that of Russia just prior to the fall.

Hopes, yes, I know about the frequencies. If you go to WIPO, you can find the patent for a Biovibe. This is the unique electrical footprint of each human being. There is a patent for a method to identify people by this signature from a satellite. It ties into the psychotronic information that I provided. These devices are real and the effects are real. Searching the web USED to provide a transcript of a couple of Air Force scientists observing children who could TELEPORT OBJECTS.

There are many things going on that most of us have no idea about. Paladin and Travelman have witnessed remote viewing and remote influencing. There is a an awareness of the genetics associated with those abilities. Is it so surprising that other abilities are hidden in the genes?

In any event, I think that it would be extremely funny if the nation was HAARPED and suddenly, people were randomly able to teleport, bend things, etc.

I plan to reproduce Orlov’s speech as I believe that it is helpful.

nai2010

hopesprings
hopesprings

Fix, one former navy commander said it was from a sub and perhaps a show of might to Asia. Not buying it myself. Like usual we are left guessing.

It was a large contrail visible to all of L.A.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Sunrvs,

Comment by sunrvs on November 9, 2010 @ 11:48 pm
You have underscored exactly what we are about to face. The elite know this and they are trying to get freed up to head for cover to wait things out. Unfortunately, their plan to steal everybody’s money BEFORE they went underground has run aground. It is keeping them from fleeing as they would like.

China’s devaluing of the USA’s credit is the first step to an international money embargo. We are about to be in a big pickle folks. The rest of the world is going to keep us from flooding their markets with useless paper by keeping us contained. Expect to see the electronic drawbridges pulled up to prevent tampering with the world’s currency systems. While there won’t be bodies filled with bubonic plague tossed over the walls, we are going to be just as tightly contained as any medieval castle’s populace.

nai2010

PS: Read the Orlov piece. He has very good information on how a collapse takes form and what key signs to look for.

nai2010
nai2010

Cafe members. Here is the Orlov speech.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
http://culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=325&Itemid=1

Social Collapse Best Practices

by Dmitry Orlov

14 February 2009

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The following talk was given on February 13, 2009, at Cowell Theatre in Fort Mason Center, San Francisco, to an audience of 550 people. Audio and video of the talk will be available on Long Now Foundation web site.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for showing up. It’s certainly nice to travel all the way across the North American continent and have a few people come to see you, even if the occasion isn’t a happy one. You are here to listen to me talk about social collapse and the various ways we can avoid screwing that up along with everything else that’s gone wrong. I know it’s a lot to ask of you, because why wouldn’t you instead want to go and eat, drink, and be merry? Well, perhaps there will still be time left for that after my talk.

I would like to thank the Long Now Foundation for inviting me, and I feel very honored to appear in the same venue as many serious, professional people, such as Michael Pollan, who will be here in May, or some of the previous speakers, such as Nassim Taleb, or Brian Eno – some of my favorite people, really. I am just a tourist. I flew over here to give this talk and to take in the sights, and then I’ll fly back to Boston and go back to my day job. Well, I am also a blogger. And I also wrote a book. But then everyone has a book, or so it would seem.

You might ask yourself, then, Why on earth did he get invited to speak here tonight? It seems that I am enjoying my moment in the limelight, because I am one of the very few people who several years ago unequivocally predicted the demise of the United States as a global superpower. The idea that the USA will go the way of the USSR seemed preposterous at the time. It doesn’t seem so preposterous any more. I take it some of you are still hedging your bets. How is that hedge fund doing, by the way?

I think I prefer remaining just a tourist, because I have learned from experience – luckily, from other people’s experience – that being a superpower collapse predictor is not a good career choice. I learned that by observing what happened to the people who successfully predicted the collapse of the USSR. Do you know who Andrei Amalrik is? See, my point exactly. He successfully predicted the collapse of the USSR. He was off by just half a decade. That was another valuable lesson for me, which is why I will not give you an exact date when USA will turn into FUSA (“F” is for “Former”). But even if someone could choreograph the whole event, it still wouldn’t make for much of a career, because once it all starts falling apart, people have far more important things to attend to than marveling at the wonderful predictive abilities of some Cassandra-like person.

I hope that I have made it clear that I am not here in any sort of professional capacity. I consider what I am doing a kind of community service. So, if you don’t like my talk, don’t worry about me. There are plenty of other things I can do. But I would like my insights to be of help during these difficult and confusing times, for altruistic reasons, mostly, although not entirely. This is because when times get really bad, as they did when the Soviet Union collapsed, lots of people just completely lose it. Men, especially. Successful, middle-aged men, breadwinners, bastions of society, turn out to be especially vulnerable. And when they just completely lose it, they become very tedious company. My hope is that some amount of preparation, psychological and otherwise, can make them a lot less fragile, and a bit more useful, and generally less of a burden.

Women seem much more able to cope. Perhaps it is because they have less of their ego invested in the whole dubious enterprise, or perhaps their sense of personal responsibility is tied to those around them and not some nebulous grand enterprise. In any case, the women always seem far more able to just put on their gardening gloves and go do something useful, while the men tend to sit around groaning about the Empire, or the Republic, or whatever it is that they lost. And when they do that, they become very tedious company. And so, without a bit of mental preparation, the men are all liable to end up very lonely and very drunk. So that’s my little intervention.

If there is one thing that I would like to claim as my own, it is the comparative theory of superpower collapse. For now, it remains just a theory, although it is currently being quite thoroughly tested. The theory states that the United States and the Soviet Union will have collapsed for the same reasons, namely: a severe and chronic shortfall in the production of crude oil (that magic addictive elixir of industrial economies), a severe and worsening foreign trade deficit, a runaway military budget, and ballooning foreign debt. I call this particular list of ingredients “The Superpower Collapse Soup.” Other factors, such as the inability to provide an acceptable quality of life for its citizens, or a systemically corrupt political system incapable of reform, are certainly not helpful, but they do not automatically lead to collapse, because they do not put the country on a collision course with reality. Please don’t be too concerned, though, because, as I mentioned, this is just a theory. My theory.

I’ve been working on this theory since about 1995, when it occurred to me that the US is retracing the same trajectory as the USSR. As so often is the case, having this realization was largely a matter of being in the right place at the right time. The two most important methods of solving problems are: 1. by knowing the solution ahead of time, and 2. by guessing it correctly. I learned this in engineering school – from a certain professor. I am not that good at guesswork, but I do sometimes know the answer ahead of time.

I was very well positioned to have this realization because I grew up straddling the two worlds – the USSR and the US. I grew up in Russia, and moved to the US when I was twelve, and so I am fluent in Russian, and I understand Russian history and Russian culture the way only a native Russian can. But I went through high school and university in the US .I had careers in several industries here, I traveled widely around the country, and so I also have a very good understanding of the US with all of its quirks and idiosyncrasies. I traveled back to Russia in 1989, when things there still seemed more or less in line with the Soviet norm, and again in 1990, when the economy was at a standstill, and big changes were clearly on the way. I went back there 3 more times in the 1990s, and observed the various stages of Soviet collapse first-hand.

By the mid-1990s I started to see Soviet/American Superpowerdom as a sort of disease that strives for world dominance but in effect eviscerates its host country, eventually leaving behind an empty shell: an impoverished population, an economy in ruins, a legacy of social problems, and a tremendous burden of debt. The symmetries between the two global superpowers were then already too numerous to mention, and they have been growing more obvious ever since.

The superpower symmetries may be of interest to policy wonks and history buffs and various skeptics, but they tell us nothing that would be useful in our daily lives. It is the asymmetries, the differences between the two superpowers, that I believe to be most instructive. When the Soviet system went away, many people lost their jobs, everyone lost their savings, wages and pensions were held back for months, their value was wiped out by hyperinflation, there shortages of food, gasoline, medicine, consumer goods, there was a large increase in crime and violence, and yet Russian society did not collapse. Somehow, the Russians found ways to muddle through. How was that possible? It turns out that many aspects of the Soviet system were paradoxically resilient in the face of system-wide collapse, many institutions continued to function, and the living arrangement was such that people did not lose access to food, shelter or transportation, and could survive even without an income. The Soviet economic system failed to thrive, and the Communist experiment at constructing a worker’s paradise on earth was, in the end, a failure. But as a side effect it inadvertently achieved a high level of collapse-preparedness. In comparison, the American system could produce significantly better results, for time, but at the cost of creating and perpetuating a living arrangement that is very fragile, and not at all capable of holding together through the inevitable crash. Even after the Soviet economy evaporated and the government largely shut down, Russians still had plenty left for them to work with. And so there is a wealth of useful information and insight that we can extract from the Russian experience, which we can then turn around and put to good use in helping us improvise a new living arrangement here in the United States – one that is more likely to be survivable.

The mid-1990s did not seem to me as the right time to voice such ideas. The United States was celebrating its so-called Cold War victory, getting over its Vietnam syndrome by bombing Iraq back to the Stone Age, and the foreign policy wonks coined the term “hyperpower” and were jabbering on about full-spectrum dominance. All sorts of silly things were happening. Professor Fukuyama told us that history had ended, and so we were building a brave new world where the Chinese made things out of plastic for us, the Indians provided customer support when these Chinese-made things broke, and we paid for it all just by flipping houses, pretending that they were worth a lot of money whereas they are really just useless bits of ticky-tacky. Alan Greenspan chided us about “irrational exuberance” while consistently low-balling interest rates. It was the “Goldilocks economy” – not to hot, not too cold. Remember that? And now it turns out that it was actually more of a “Tinker-bell” economy, because the last five or so years of economic growth was more or less a hallucination, based on various debt pyramids, the “whole house of cards” as President Bush once referred to it during one of his lucid moments. And now we can look back on all of that with a funny, queasy feeling, or we can look forward and feel nothing but vertigo.

While all of these silly things were going on, I thought it best to keep my comparative theory of superpower collapse to myself. During that time, I was watching the action in the oil industry, because I understood that oil imports are the Achilles’ heel of the US economy. In the mid-1990s the all-time peak in global oil production was scheduled for the turn of the century. But then a lot of things happened that delayed it by at least half a decade. Perhaps you’ve noticed this too, there is a sort of refrain here: people who try to predict big historical shifts always turn to be off by about half a decade. Unsuccessful predictions, on the other hand are always spot on as far as timing: the world as we know it failed to end precisely at midnight on January 1, 2000. Perhaps there is a physical principal involved: information spreads at the speed of light, while ignorance is instantaneous at all points in the known universe. So please make a mental note: whenever it seems to you that I am making a specific prediction as to when I think something is likely to happen, just silently add “plus or minus half a decade.”

In any case, about half a decade ago, I finally thought that the time was ripe, and, as it has turned out, I wasn’t too far off. In June of 2005 I published an article on the subject, titled “Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century,” which was quite popular, even to the extent that I got paid for it. It is available at various places on the Internet. A little while later I formalized my thinking somewhat into the “Collapse Gap” concept, which I presented at a conference in Manhattan in April of 2006. The slide show from that presentation, titled “Closing the Collapse Gap,” was posted on the Internet and has been downloaded a few million times since then. Then, in January of 2008, when it became apparent to me that financial collapse was well underway, and that other stages of collapse were to follow, I published a short article titled “The Five Stages of Collapse,” which I later expanded into a talk I gave at a conference in Michigan in October of 2008. Finally, at the end of 2008, I announced on my blog that I am getting out of the prognosticating business. I have made enough predictions, they all seem very well on track (give or take half a decade, please remember that), collapse is well underway, and now I am just an observer.

But this talk is about something else, something other than making dire predictions and then acting all smug when they come true. You see, there is nothing more useless than predictions, once they have come true. It’s like looking at last year’s amazingly successful stock picks: what are you going to do about them this year? What we need are examples of things that have been shown to work in the strange, unfamiliar, post-collapse environment that we are all likely to have to confront. Stuart Brand proposed the title for the talk – “Social Collapse Best Practices” – and I thought that it was an excellent idea. Although the term “best practices” has been diluted over time to sometimes mean little more than “good ideas,” initially it stood for the process of abstracting useful techniques from examples of what has worked in the past and applying them to new situations, in order to control risk and to increase the chances of securing a positive outcome. It’s a way of skipping a lot of trial and error and deliberation and experimentation, and to just go with what works.

In organizations, especially large organizations, “best practices” also offer a good way to avoid painful episodes of watching colleagues trying to “think outside the box” whenever they are confronted with a new problem. If your colleagues were any good at thinking outside the box, they probably wouldn’t feel so compelled to spend their whole working lives sitting in a box keeping an office chair warm. If they were any good at thinking outside the box, they would have by now thought of a way to escape from that box. So perhaps what would make them feel happy and productive again is if someone came along and gave them a different box inside of which to think – a box better suited to the post-collapse environment.

Here is the key insight: you might think that when collapse happens, nothing works. That’s just not the case. The old ways of doing things don’t work any more, the old assumptions are all invalidated, conventional goals and measures of success become irrelevant. But a different set of goals, techniques, and measures of success can be brought to bear immediately, and the sooner the better. But enough generalities, let’s go through some specifics. We’ll start with some generalities, and, as you will see, it will all become very, very specific rather quickly.

Here is another key insight: there are very few things that are positives or negatives per se. Just about everything is a matter of context. Now, it just so happens that most things that are positives prior to collapse turn out to be negatives once collapse occurs, and vice versa. For instance, prior to collapse having high inventory in a business is bad, because the businesses have to store it and finance it, so they try to have just-in-time inventory. After collapse, high inventory turns out to be very useful, because they can barter it for the things they need, and they can’t easily get more because they don’t have any credit. Prior to collapse, it’s good for a business to have the right level of staffing and an efficient organization. After collapse, what you want is a gigantic, sluggish bureaucracy that can’t unwind operations or lay people off fast enough through sheer bureaucratic foot-dragging. Prior to collapse, what you want is an effective retail segment and good customer service. After collapse, you regret not having an unreliable retail segment, with shortages and long bread lines, because then people would have been forced to learn to shift for themselves instead of standing around waiting for somebody to come and feed them.

If you notice, none of these things that I mentioned have any bearing on what is commonly understood as “economic health.” Prior to collapse, the overall macroeconomic positive is an expanding economy. After collapse, economic contraction is a given, and the overall macroeconomic positive becomes something of an imponderable, so we are forced to listen to a lot of nonsense. The situation is either slightly better than expected or slightly worse than expected. We are always either months or years away from economic recovery. Business as usual will resume sooner or later, because some television bobble-head said so.

But let’s take it apart. Starting from the very general, what are the current macroeconomic objectives, if you listen to the hot air coming out of Washington at the moment? First: growth, of course! Getting the economy going. We learned nothing from the last huge spike in commodity prices, so let’s just try it again. That calls for economic stimulus, a.k.a. printing money. Let’s see how high the prices go up this time. Maybe this time around we will achieve hyperinflation. Second: Stabilizing financial institutions: getting banks lending – that’s important too. You see, we are just not in enough debt yet, that’s our problem. We need more debt, and quickly! Third: jobs! We need to create jobs. Low-wage jobs, of course, to replace all the high-wage manufacturing jobs we’ve been shedding for decades now, and replacing them with low-wage service sector jobs, mainly ones without any job security or benefits. Right now, a lot of people could slow down the rate at which they are sinking further into debt if they quit their jobs. That is, their job is a net loss for them as individuals as well as for the economy as a whole. But, of course, we need much more of that, and quickly!

So that’s what we have now. The ship is on the rocks, water is rising, and the captain is shouting “Full steam ahead! We are sailing to Afghanistan!” Do you listen to Ahab up on the bridge, or do you desert your post in the engine room and go help deploy the lifeboats? If you thought that the previous episode of uncontrolled debt expansion, globalized Ponzi schemes, and economic hollowing-out was silly, then I predict that you will find this next episode of feckless grasping at macroeconomic straws even sillier. Except that it won’t be funny: what is crashing now is our life support system: all the systems and institutions that are keeping us alive. And so I don’t recommend passively standing around and watching the show – unless you happen to have a death wish.

Right now the Washington economic stimulus team is putting on their Scuba gear and diving down to the engine room to try to invent a way to get a diesel engine to run on seawater. They spoke of change, but in reality they are terrified of change and want to cling with all their might to the status quo. But this game will soon be over, and they don’t have any idea what to do next.

So, what is there for them to do? Forget “growth,” forget “jobs,” forget “financial stability.” What should their realistic new objectives be? Well, here they are: food, shelter, transportation, and security. Their task is to find a way to provide all of these necessities on an emergency basis, in absence of a functioning economy, with commerce at a standstill, with little or no access to imports, and to make them available to a population that is largely penniless. If successful, society will remain largely intact, and will be able to begin a slow and painful process of cultural transition, and eventually develop a new economy, a gradually de-industrializing economy, at a much lower level of resource expenditure, characterized by a quite a lot of austerity and even poverty, but in conditions that are safe, decent, and dignified. If unsuccessful, society will be gradually destroyed in a series of convulsions that will leave a defunct nation composed of many wretched little fiefdoms. Given its largely depleted resource base, a dysfunctional, collapsing infrastructure, and its history of unresolved social conflicts, the territory of the Former United States will undergo a process of steady degeneration punctuated by natural and man-made cataclysms.

Food. Shelter. Transportation. Security. When it comes to supplying these survival necessities, the Soviet example offers many valuable lessons. As I already mentioned, in a collapse many economic negatives become positives, and vice versa. Let us consider each one of these in turn.

The Soviet agricultural sector was plagued by consistent underperformance. In many ways, this was the legacy of the disastrous collectivization experiment carried out in the 1930s, which destroyed many of the more prosperous farming households and herded people into collective farms. Collectivization undermined the ancient village-based agricultural traditions that had made pre-revolutionary Russia a well-fed place that was also the breadbasket of Western Europe. A great deal of further damage was caused by the introduction of industrial agriculture. The heavy farm machinery alternately compacted and tore up the topsoil while dosing it with chemicals, depleting it and killing the biota. Eventually, the Soviet government had to turn to importing grain from countries hostile to its interests – United States and Canada – and eventually expanded this to include other foodstuffs. The USSR experienced a permanent shortage of meat and other high-protein foods, and much of the imported grain was used to raise livestock to try to address this problem.

Although it was generally possible to survive on the foods available at the government stores, the resulting diet would have been rather poor, and so people tried to supplement it with food they gathered, raised, or caught, or purchased at farmers’ markets. Kitchen gardens were always common, and, once the economy collapsed, a lot of families took to growing food in earnest. The kitchen gardens, by themselves, were never sufficient, but they made a huge difference.

The year 1990 was particularly tough when it came to trying to score something edible. I remember one particular joke from that period. Black humor has always been one of Russia’s main psychological coping mechanisms. A man walks into a food store, goes to the meat counter, and he sees that it is completely empty. So he asks the butcher: “Don’t you have any fish?” And the butcher answers: “No, here is where we don’t have any meat. Fish is what they don’t have over at the seafood counter.”

Poor though it was, the Soviet food distribution system never collapsed completely. In particular, the deliveries of bread continued even during the worst of times, partly because has always been such an important part of the Russian diet, and partly because access to bread symbolized the pact between the people and the Communist government, enshrined in oft-repeated revolutionary slogans. Also, it is important to remember that in Russia most people have lived within walking distance of food shops, and used public transportation to get out to their kitchen gardens, which were often located in the countryside immediately surrounding the relatively dense, compact cities. This combination of factors made for some lean times, but very little malnutrition and no starvation.

In the United States, the agricultural system is heavily industrialized, and relies on inputs such as diesel, chemical fertilizers and pesticides, and, perhaps most importantly, financing. In the current financial climate, the farmers’ access to financing is not at all assured. This agricultural system is efficient, but only if you regard fossil fuel energy as free. In fact, it is a way to transform fossil fuel energy into food with a bit of help from sunlight, to the tune of 10 calories of fossil fuel energy being embodied in each calorie that is consumed as food. The food distribution system makes heavy use of refrigerated diesel trucks, transforming food over hundreds of miles to resupply supermarkets. The food pipeline is long and thin, and it takes only a couple of days of interruptions for supermarket shelves to be stripped bare. Many people live in places that are not within walking distance of stores, not served by public transportation, and will be cut off from food sources once they are no longer able to drive.

Besides the supermarket chains, much of the nation’s nutrition needs are being met by an assortment of fast food joints and convenience stores. In fact, in many of the less fashionable parts of cities and towns, fast food and convenience store food is all that is available. In the near future, this trend is likely to extend to the more prosperous parts of town and the suburbs.

Fast food outfits such as McDonalds have more ways to cut costs, and so may prove a bit more resilient in the face of economic collapse than supermarket chains, but they are no substitute for food security, because they too depend industrial agribusiness. Their food inputs, such as high-fructose corn syrup, genetically modified potatoes, various soy-based fillers, factory-farmed beef, pork and chicken, and so forth, are derived from oil, two-thirds of which is imported, as well as fertilizer made from natural gas. They may be able to stay in business longer, supplying food-that-isn’t-really-food, but eventually they will run out of inputs along with the rest of the supply chain. Before they do, they may for a time sell burgers that aren’t really burgers, like the bread that wasn’t really bread that the Soviet government distributed in Leningrad during the Nazi blockade. It was mostly sawdust, with a bit of rye flour added for flavor.

Can we think of any ways to avoid this dismal scenario? The Russian example may give us a clue. Many Russian families could gauge how fast the economy was crashing, and, based on that, decide how many rows of potatoes to plant. Could we perhaps do something similar? There is already a healthy gardening movement in the United States; can it be scaled up? The trick is to make small patches of farmland available for non-mechanical cultivation by individuals and families, in increments as small as 1000 square feet. The ideal spots would be fertile bits of land with access to rivers and streams for irrigation. Provisions would have to be made for campsites and for transportation, allowing people to undertake seasonal migrations out to the land to grow food during the growing season, and haul the produce back to the population centers after taking in the harvest.

An even simpler approach has been successfully used in Cuba: converting urban parking lots and other empty bits of land to raised-bed agriculture. Instead of continually trucking in vegetables and other food, it is much easier to truck in soil, compost, and mulch just once a season. Raised highways can be closed to traffic (since there is unlikely to be much traffic in any case) and used to catch rainwater for irrigation. Rooftops and balconies can be used for hothouses, henhouses, and a variety of other agricultural uses.

How difficult would this be to organize? Well, Cubans were actually helped by their government, but the Russians managed to do it in more or less in spite of the Soviet bureaucrats, and so we might be able to do it in spite of the American ones. The government could theoretically head up such an effort, purely hypothetically speaking, of course, because I see no evidence that such an effort is being considered. For our fearless national leaders, such initiatives are too low-level: if they stimulate the economy and get the banks lending again, the potatoes will simply grow themselves. All they need to do is print some more money, right?

Moving on to shelter. Again, let’s look at how the Russians managed to muddle through. In the Soviet Union, people did not own their place of residence. Everyone was assigned a place to live, which was recorded in a person’s internal passport. People could not be dislodged from their place of residence for as long as they drew oxygen. Since most people in Russia live in cities, the place of residence was usually an apartment, or a room in a communal apartment, with shared bathroom and kitchen. There was a permanent housing shortage, and so people often doubled up, with three generations living together. The apartments were often crowded, sometimes bordering on squalid. If people wanted to move, they had to find somebody else who wanted to move, who would want to exchange rooms or apartments with them. There were always long waiting lists for apartments, and children often grew up, got married, and had children before receiving a place of their own.

These all seem like negatives, but consider the flip side of all this: the high population density made this living arrangement quite affordable. With several generations living together, families were on hand to help each other. Grandparents provided day care, freeing up their children’s time to do other things. The apartment buildings were always built near public transportation, so they did not have to rely on private cars to get around. Apartment buildings are relatively cheap to heat, and municipal services easy to provide and maintain because of the short runs of pipe and cable. Perhaps most importantly, after the economy collapsed, people lost their savings, many people lost their jobs, even those that still had jobs often did not get paid for months, and when they were the value of their wages was destroyed by hyperinflation, but there were no foreclosures, no evictions, municipal services such as heat, water, and sometimes even hot water continued to be provided, and everyone had their families close by. Also, because it was so difficult to relocate, people generally stayed in one place for generations, and so they tended to know all the people around them. After the economic collapse, there was a large spike in the crime rate, which made it very helpful to be surrounded by people who weren’t strangers, and who could keep an eye on things. Lastly, in an interesting twist, the Soviet housing arrangement delivered an amazing final windfall: in the 1990s all of these apartments were privatized, and the people who lived in them suddenly became owners of some very valuable real estate, free and clear.

Switching back to the situation in the US: in recent months, many people here have reconciled themselves to the idea that their house is not an ATM machine, nor is it a nest egg. They already know that they will not be able to comfortably retire by selling it, or get rich by fixing it up and flipping it, and quite a few people have acquiesced to the fact that real estate prices are going to continue heading lower. The question is, How much lower? A lot of people still think that there must be a lower limit, a “realistic” price. This thought is connected to the notion that housing is a necessity. After all, everybody needs a place to live.

Well, it is certainly true that some sort of shelter is a necessity, be it an apartment, or a dorm room, a bunk in a barrack, a boat, a camper, or a tent, a teepee, a wigwam, a shipping container… The list is virtually endless. But there is no reason at all to think that a suburban single-family house is in any sense a requirement. It is little more than a cultural preference, and a very shortsighted one at that. Most suburban houses are expensive to heat and cool, inaccessible by public transportation, expensive to hook up to public utilities because of the long runs of pipe and cable, and require a great deal of additional public expenditure on road, bridge and highway maintenance, school buses, traffic enforcement, and other nonsense. They often take up what was once valuable agricultural land. They promote a car-centric culture that is destructive of urban environments, causing a proliferation of dead downtowns. Many families that live in suburban houses can no longer afford to live in them, and expect others to bail them out.

As this living arrangement becomes unaffordable for all concerned, it will also become unlivable. Municipalities and public utilities will not have the funds to lavish on sewer, water, electricity, road and bridge repair, and police. Without cheap and plentiful gasoline, natural gas, and heating oil, many suburban dwellings will become both inaccessible and unlivable. The inevitable result will be a mass migration of suburban refugees toward the more survivable, more densely settled towns and cities. The luckier ones will find friends or family to stay with; for the rest, it would be very helpful to improvise some solution.

One obvious answer is to repurpose the ever-plentiful vacant office buildings for residential use. Converting offices to dormitories is quite straightforward. Many of them already have kitchens and bathrooms, plenty of partitions and other furniture, and all they are really missing is beds. Putting in beds is just not that difficult. The new, subsistence economy is unlikely to generate the large surpluses that are necessary for sustaining the current large population of office plankton. The businesses that once occupied these offices are not coming back, so we might as well find new and better uses for them.

Another category of real estate that is likely to go unused and that can be repurposed for new communities is college campuses. The American 4-year college is an institution of dubious merit. It exists because American public schools fail to teach in 12 years what Russian public schools manage to teach in 8. As fewer and fewer people become able to afford college, which is likely to happen, because meager career prospects after graduation will make them bad risks for student loans, perhaps this will provide the impetus to do something about the public education system. One idea would be to scrap it, then start small, but eventually build something a bit more on par with world standards.

College campuses make perfect community centers: there are dormitories for newcomers, fraternities and sororities for the more settled residents, and plenty of grand public buildings that can be put to a variety of uses. A college campus normally contains the usual wasteland of mowed turf that can be repurposed to grow food, or, at the very least, hay, and to graze cattle. Perhaps some enlightened administrators, trustees and faculty members will fall upon this idea once they see admissions flat-lining and endowments dropping to zero, without any need for government involvement. So here we have a ray of hope, don’t we.

Moving on to transportation. Here, we need to make sure that people don’t get stranded in places that are not survivable. Then we have to provide for seasonal migrations to places where people can grow, catch, or gather their own food, and then back to places where they can survive the winter without freezing to death or going stir-crazy from cabin fever. Lastly, some amount of freight will have to be moved, to transport food to population centers, as well as enough coal and firewood to keep the pipes from freezing in the remaining habitable dwellings.

All of this is going to be a bit of a challenge, because it all hinges on the availability of transportation fuels, and it seems very probable that transportation fuels will be both too expensive and in short supply before too long. From about 2005 and until the middle of 2008 the global oil has been holding steady, unable to grow materially beyond a level that has been characterized as a “bumpy plateau.” An all-time record was set in 2005, and then, after a period of record-high oil prices, again only in 2008. Then, as the financial collapse gathered speed, oil and other commodity prices crashed, along with oil production. More recently, the oil markets have come to rest on an altogether different “bumpy plateau”: the oil prices are bumping along at around $40 a barrel and can’t seem to go any lower. It would appear that oil production costs have risen to a point where it does not make economic sense to sell oil at below this price.

Now, $40 a barrel is a good price for US consumers at the moment, but there is hyperinflation on the horizon, thanks to the money-printing extravaganza currently underway in Washington, and $40 could easily become $400 and then $4000 a barrel, swiftly pricing US consumers out of the international oil market. On top of that, exporting countries would balk at the idea of trading their oil for an increasingly worthless currency, and would start insisting on payment in kind – in some sort of tangible export commodity, which the US, in its current economic state, would be hard-pressed to provide in any great quantity. Domestic oil production is in permanent decline, and can provide only about a third of current needs. This is still quite a lot of oil, but it will be very difficult to avoid the knock-on effects of widespread oil shortages. There will be widespread hoarding, quite a lot of gasoline will simply evaporate into the atmosphere, vented from various jerricans and improvised storage containers, the rest will disappear into the black market, and much fuel will be wasted driving around looking for someone willing to part with a bit of gas that’s needed for some small but critical mission.

I am quite familiar with this scenario, because I happened to be in Russia during a time of gasoline shortages. On one occasion, I found out by word of mouth that a certain gas station was open and distributing 10 liters apiece. I brought along my uncle’s wife, who at the time was 8 months pregnant, and we tried use her huge belly to convince the gas station attendant to give us an extra 10 liters with which to drive her to the hospital when the time came. No dice. The pat answer was: “Everybody is 8 months pregnant!” How can you argue with that logic? So 10 liters was it for us too, belly or no belly.

So, what can we do to get our little critical missions accomplished in spite of chronic fuel shortages? The most obvious idea, of course, is to not use any fuel. Bicycles, and cargo bikes in particular, are an excellent adaptation. Sailboats are a good idea too: not only do they hold large amounts of cargo, but they can cover huge distances, all without the use of fossil fuels. Of course, they are restricted to the coastlines and the navigable waterways. They will be hampered by the lack of dredging due to the inevitable budget shortfalls, and by bridges that refuse to open, again, due to lack of maintenance funds, but here ancient maritime techniques and improvisations can be brought to bear to solve such problems, all very low-tech and reasonably priced.

Of course, cars and trucks will not disappear entirely. Here, again, some reasonable adaptations can be brought to bear. In my book, I advocated banning the sale of new cars, as was done in the US during World War II. The benefits are numerous. First, older cars are overall more energy-efficient than new cars, because the massive amount of energy that went into manufacturing them is more highly amortized. Second, large energy savings accrue from the shutdown of an entire industry devoted to designing, building, marketing, and financing new cars. Third, older cars require more maintenance, reinvigorating the local economy at the expense of mainly foreign car manufacturers, and helping reduce the trade deficit. Fourth, this will create a shortage of cars, translating automatically into fewer, shorter car trips, higher passenger occupancy per trip, and more bicycling and use of public transportation, saving even more energy. Lastly, this would allow the car to be made obsolete on the about the same time scale as the oil industry that made it possible. We will run out of cars just as we run out of gas.

Here we are, only a year or so later, and I am most heartened to see that the US auto industry has taken my advice and is in the process of shutting down. On the other hand, the government’s actions continue to disappoint. Instead of trying to solve problems, they would rather continue to create boondoggles. The latest one is the idea of subsidizing the sales of new cars. The idea of making cars more efficient by making more efficient cars is sheer folly. I can take any pick-up truck and increase its fuel efficiency one or two thousand percent just by breaking a few laws. First, you pack about a dozen people into the bed, standing shoulder to shoulder like sardines. Second, you drive about 25 mph, down the highway, because going any faster would waste fuel and wouldn’t be safe with so many people in the back. And there you are, per passenger fuel efficiency increased by a factor of 20 or so. I believe the Mexicans have done extensive research in this area, with excellent results.

Another excellent idea pioneered in Cuba is making it illegal not to pick up hitchhikers. Cars with vacant seats are flagged down and matched up with people who need a lift. Yet another idea: since passenger rail service is in such a sad shape, and since it is unlikely that funds will be found to improve it, why not bring back the venerable institution of riding the rails by requiring rail freight companies to provide a few empty box cars for the hobos. The energy cost of the additional weight is negligible, the hobos don’t require stops because they can jump on and off, and only a couple of cars per train would ever be needed, because hobos are almost infinitely compressible, and can even ride on the roof if needed. One final transportation idea: start breeding donkeys. Horses are finicky and expensive, but donkeys can be very cost-effective and make good pack animals. My grandfather had a donkey while he was living in Tashkent in Central Asia during World War II. There was nothing much for the donkey to eat, but, as a member of the Communist Party, my grandfather had a subscription to Pravda, the Communist Party newspaper, and so that’s what the donkey ate. Apparently, donkeys can digest any kind of cellulose, even when it’s loaded with communist propaganda. If I had a donkey, I would feed it the Wall Street Journal.

And so we come to the subject of security. Post-collapse Russia suffered from a serious crime wave. Ethnic mafias ran rampant, veterans who served in Afghanistan went into business for themselves, there were numerous contract killings, muggings, murders went unsolved left and right, and, in general, the place just wasn’t safe. Russians living in the US would hear that I am heading back there for a visit, and would give me a wide-eyed stare: how could I think of doing such a thing. I came through unscathed, somehow. I made a lot of interesting observations along the way.

One interesting observation is that once collapse occurs it becomes possible to rent a policeman, either for a special occasion, or generally just to follow someone around. It is even possible to hire a soldier or two, armed with AK-47s, to help you run various errands. Not only is it possible to do such things, it’s often a very good idea, especially if you happen to have something valuable that you don’t want to part with. If you can’t afford their services, then you should try to be friends with them, and to be helpful to them in various ways. Although their demands might seem exorbitant at times, it is still a good idea to do all you can to keep them on your side. For instance, they might at some point insist that you and your family move out to the garage so that they can live in your house. This may be upsetting at first, but then is it really such a good idea for you to live in a big house all by yourselves, with so many armed men running around. It may make sense to station some of them right in your house, so that they have a base of operations from which to maintain a watch and patrol the neighborhood.

A couple of years ago I half-jokingly proposed a political solution to collapse mitigation, and formulated a platform for the so-called Collapse Party. I published it with the caveat that I didn’t think there was much of a chance of my proposals becoming part of the national agenda. Much to my surprise, I turned out to be wrong. For instance, I proposed that we stop making new cars, and, lo and behold, the auto industry shuts down. I also proposed that we start granting amnesties to prisoners, because the US has the world’s largest prison population, and will not be able to afford to keep so many people locked up. It is better to release prisoners gradually, over time, rather than in a single large general amnesty, the way Saddam Hussein did it right before the US invaded. And, lo and behold, many states are starting to implement my proposal. It looks like California in particular will be forced to release some 60 thousand of the 170 thousand people it keeps locked up. That is a good start. I also proposed that we dismantle all overseas military bases (there are over a thousand of them) and repatriate all the troops. And it looks like that is starting to happen as well, except for the currently planned little side-trip to Afghanistan. I also proposed a Biblical jubilee – forgiveness of all debts, public and private. Let’s give that one… half a decade?

But if we look just at the changes that are already occurring, just the simple, predictable lack of funds, as the federal government and the state governments all go broke, will transform American society in rather predictable ways. As municipalities run out of money, police protection will evaporate. But the police still have to eat, and will find ways to use their skills to good use on a freelance basis. Similarly, as military bases around the world are shut down, soldiers will return to a country that will be unable to reintegrate them into civilian life. Paroled prisoners will find themselves in much the same predicament.

And so we will have former soldiers, former police, and former prisoners: a big happy family, with a few bad apples and some violent tendencies. The end result will be a country awash with various categories of armed men, most of them unemployed, and many of them borderline psychotic. The police in the United States are a troubled group. Many of them lose all touch with people who are not “on the force” and most of them develop an us-versus-them mentality. The soldiers returning from a tour of duty often suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. The paroled prisoners suffer from a variety of psychological ailments as well. All of them will sooner or later realize that their problems are not medical but rather political. This will make it impossible for society to continue to exercise control over them. All of them will be making good use of their weapons training and other professional skills to acquire whatever they need to survive. And the really important point to remember is that they will do these things whether or not anyone thinks it legal for them to do be doing them.

I said it before and I will say it again: very few things are good or bad per se; everything has to be considered within a context. And, in a post-collapse context, not having to worry whether or not something is legal may be a very good thing. In the midst of a collapse, we will not have time to deliberate, legislate, interpret, set precedents and so on. Having to worry about pleasing a complex and expensive legal system is the last thing we should have to worry about.

Some legal impediments are really small and trivial, but they can be quite annoying nevertheless. A homeowners’ association might, say, want give you a ticket or seek a court order against you for not mowing your lawn, or for keeping livestock in your garage, or for that nice windmill you erected on a hill that you don’t own, without first getting a building permit, or some municipal busy-body might try to get you arrested for demolishing a certain derelict bridge because it was interfering with boat traffic – you know, little things like that. Well, if the association is aware that you have a large number of well armed, mentally unstable friends, some of whom still wear military and police uniforms, for old time’s sake, then they probably won’t give you that ticket or seek that court order.

Or suppose you have a great new invention that you want to make and distribute, a new agricultural implement. It’s a sort of flail studded with sharp blades. It has a hundred and one uses and is highly cost-effective, and reasonably safe provided you don’t lose your head while using it, although people have taken to calling the “flying guillotine.” You think that this is an acceptable risk, but you are concerned about the issues of consumer safety and liability insurance and possibly even criminal liability. Once again, it is very helpful to have a large number of influential, physically impressive, mildly psychotic friends who, whenever some legal matter comes up, can just can go and see the lawyers, have a friendly chat, demonstrate the proper use of the flying guillotine, and generally do whatever they have to do to settle the matter amicably, without any money changing hands, and without signing any legal documents.

Or, say, the government starts being difficult about moving things and people in and out of the country, or it wants to take too much of a cut from commercial transactions. Or perhaps your state or your town decides to conduct its own foreign policy, and the federal government sees it fit to interfere. Then it may turn out to be a good thing if someone else has the firepower to bring the government, or what remains of it, to its senses, and convince it to be reasonable and to play nice.

Or perhaps you want to start a community health clinic, so that you can provide some relief to people who wouldn’t otherwise have any health care. You don’t dare call yourself a doctor, because these people are suspicious of doctors, because doctors were always trying to rob them of their life’s savings. But suppose you have some medical training that you got in, say, Cuba, and you are quite able to handle a Caesarean or an appendectomy, to suture wounds, to treat infections, to set bones and so on. You also want to be able to distribute opiates that your friends in Afghanistan periodically send you, to ease the pain of hard post-collapse life. Well, going through the various licensing boards and getting the certifications and the permits and the malpractice insurance is all completely unnecessary, provided you can surround yourself with a lot of well-armed, well-trained, mentally unstable friends.

Food. Shelter. Transportation. Security. Security is very important. Maintaining order and public safety requires discipline, and maintaining discipline, for a lot of people, requires the threat of force. This means that people must be ready to come to each other’s defense, take responsibility for each other, and do what’s right. Right now, security is provided by a number of bloated, bureaucratic, ineffectual institutions, which inspire more anger and despondency than discipline, and dispense not so much violence as ill treatment. That is why we have the world’s highest prison population. They are supposedly there to protect people from each other, but in reality their mission is not even to provide security; it is to safeguard property, and those who own it. Once these institutions run out of resources, there will be a period of upheaval, but in the end people will be forced to learn to deal with each other face to face, and Justice will once again become a personal virtue rather than a federal department.

I’ve covered what I think are basics, based on what I saw work and what I think might work reasonably well here. I assume that a lot of you are thinking that this is all quite far into the future, if in fact it ever gets that bad. You should certainly feel free to think that way. The danger there is that you will miss the opportunity to adapt to the new reality ahead of time, and then you will get trapped. As I see it, there is a choice to be made: you can accept the failure of the system now and change your course accordingly, or you can decide that you must try to stay the course, and then you will probably have to accept your own individual failure later.

So how do you prepare? Lately, I’ve been hearing from a lot of high-powered, successful people about their various high-powered, successful associates. Usually, the story goes something like this: “My a. financial advisor, b. investment banker, or c. commanding officer has recently a. put all his money in gold, b. bought a log cabin up in the mountains, or c. built a bunker under his house stocked with six months of food and water. Is this normal?” And I tell them, yes, of course, that’s perfectly harmless. He’s just having a mid-collapse crisis. But that’s not really preparation. That’s just someone being colorful in an offbeat, countercultural sort of way.

So, how do you prepare, really? Let’s go through a list of questions that people typically ask me, and I will try to briefly respond to each of them.

OK, first question: How about all these financial boondoggles? What on earth is going on? People are losing their jobs left and right, and if we calculate unemployment the same way it was done during the Great Depression, instead of looking at the cooked numbers the government is trying to feed us now, then we are heading toward 20% unemployment. And is there any reason to think it’ll stop there? Do you happen to believe that prosperity is around the corner? Not only jobs and housing equity, but retirement savings are also evaporating. The federal government is broke, state governments are broke, some more than others, and the best they can do is print money, which will quickly lose value. So, how can we get the basics if we don’t have any money? How is that done? Good question.

As I briefly mentioned, the basics are food, shelter, transportation, and security. Shelter poses a particularly interesting problem at the moment. It is still very much overpriced, with many people paying mortgages and rents that they can no longer afford while numerous properties stand vacant. The solution, of course, is to cut your losses and stop paying. But then you might soon have to relocate. That is OK, because, as I mentioned, there is no shortage of vacant properties around. Finding a good place to live will become less and less of a problem as people stop paying their rents and mortgages and get foreclosed or evicted, because the number of vacant properties will only increase. The best course of action is to become a property caretaker, legitimately occupying a vacant property rent-free, and keeping an eye on things for the owner. What if you can’t find a position as a property caretaker? Well, then you might have to become a squatter, maintain a list of other vacant properties that you can go to next, and keep your camping gear handy just in case. If you do get tossed out, chances are, the people who tossed you out will then think about hiring a property caretaker, to keep the squatters out. And what do you do if you become property caretaker? Well, you take care of the property, but you also look out for all the squatters, because they are the reason you have a legitimate place to live. A squatter in hand is worth three absentee landlords in the bush. The absentee landlord might eventually cut his losses and go away, but your squatter friends will remain as your neighbors. Having some neighbors is so much better than living in a ghost town.

What if you still have a job? How do you prepare then? The obvious answer is, be prepared to quit or to be laid off or fired at any moment. It really doesn’t matter which one of these it turns out to be; the point is to sustain zero psychological damage in the process. Get your burn rate to as close to zero as you can, by spending as little money as possible, so than when the job goes away, not much has to change. While at work, do as little as possible, because all this economic activity is just a terrible burden on the environment. Just gently ride it down to a stop and jump off.

If you still have a job, or if you still have some savings, what do you do with all the money? The obvious answer is, build up inventory. The money will be worthless, but a box of bronze nails will still be a box of bronze nails. Buy and stockpile useful stuff, especially stuff that can be used to create various kinds of alternative systems for growing food, providing shelter, and providing transportation. If you don’t own a patch of dirt free and clear where you can stockpile stuff, then you can rent a storage container, pay it a few years forward, and just sit on it until reality kicks in again and there is something useful for you to do with it. Some of you may be frightened by the future I just described, and rightly so. There is nothing any of us can do to change the path we are on: it is a huge system with tremendous inertia, and trying to change its path is like trying to change the path of a hurricane. What we can do is prepare ourselves, and each other, mostly by changing our expectations, our preferences, and scaling down our needs. It may mean that you will miss out on some last, uncertain bit of enjoyment. On the other hand, by refashioning yourself into someone who might stand a better chance of adapting to the new circumstances, you will be able to give to yourself, and to others, a great deal of hope that would otherwise not exist.

Image
Dmitry Orlov at Community Solutions peak oil converence, 2008

* * * * *

Dmitry Orlov is author of Reinventing Collapse, New Society Publishers (2007). His website is cluborlov.blogspot.com, where the above article is also featured.

His articles on Culture Change include The New Age of Sail , The Despotism of the Image, and That Bastion of American Socialism.

asha4u
asha4u

nai2010
Thanx 4 Ur comments. I can subscibe any line U wrote…
Reg. Zapper:
I myself experienced one ‘Zapper’-device back in 96 as a great healing tool. Since then I knew of a lot of former great concepts/healing devices/healing technics going down the flush after malevolent ppl stepped in and rendered it useless…
So, before U spend money on one of the many devices still on the market (available from 100 – 4,500 US$) I recomend testing before buying. I’m sure Lew will help if beeing asked.

May I say that Ur input here has a very fine and back to balance influence reg. the spirit and energy here. Thanx for remembering us from time to time where and how to focus on…

kohala889
kohala889

Gosh nai, that was a LONG COMMENT. Couldn’t we just use the link?

Dreamlander

SILVER just hit the US$29/oz barrier less than 1 minute earlier
Source: http://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html

foodrules
foodrules

Dmitry Orlov wrote this, which is just an excerpt from the same site as nai’s (above). It kind of gives a “day in the life”;The Loss of Technological Comforts

Warning: what I am about to say may be somewhat unpleasant, but I’d like to get the issue out of the way. Most of the technological progress of the 20th century resulted in a higher level of physical comfort. Yes, that’s why we caused global warming, a hole in the ozone layer, and a mass extinction of plants, fish, birds, and mammals: to be somewhat more comfortable for a little while.

We all expect heating and air-conditioning, hot and cold water, reliable electricity, personal transportation, paved roads, illuminated streets and parking lots, maybe even high-speed Internet. Well, what if you had to give up all that? Or, rather, what will you do when you have to give up all that?

Most of our ancestors put up with a level of physical discomfort we would find appalling: no running hot water, an outhouse instead of a flush toilet, no central heat, and one’s own two feet, or a horse, as the main means for getting around. And still they managed to produce a civilization and a culture that we can just barely manage to emulate and preserve.

It doesn’t take a crisis to make public utilities go on the blink, but a crisis certainly helps. Any crisis will do: economic, financial, or even political. Consider the governor of Primorye, a region on the far side of Siberia, who simply stole all the money that was supposed to buy coal for the winter. Primorye froze. With winter temperatures around 40 below, it’s a wonder there’s anyone still living there. It’s a testament to human perseverance. As the economic situation degenerates, events seem to unfold in a certain sequence, regardless of locale. They always seem to lead to the same result: unsanitary conditions. But an energy crisis seems to me by far the most efficacious way of depriving one of one’s treasured utility services.

First, electricity begins to wink in and out. Eventually, this settles into a rhythm. Countries such as Georgia, Bulgaria and Romania, as well as some peripheral regions of Russia, have had to put up with a few hours of electricity a day, sometimes for several years. North Korea is perhaps the best Soviet pupil we have, surviving without much electricity for years. Lights flicker on as the sun begins to set. The generators struggle on for a few hours, powering light bulbs, television sets, and radios. When it’s time for bed, the lights wink out once again.

Second in line is heat. Every year, it comes on later and goes off sooner. People watch television or listen to the radio, when there’s electricity, or just sit, under piles of blankets. Sharing bodily warmth has been a favored survival technique among humans through the ice ages. People get used to having less heat, and eventually stop complaining. Even in these relatively prosperous times, there are apartment blocks in St. Petersburg that are heated every other day, even during the coldest parts of winter. Thick sweaters and down comforters are used in place of the missing buckets of coal.

Third in line is hot water: the shower runs cold. Unless you’ve been deprived of a cold shower, you won’t be able to appreciate it for the luxury that it affords. In case you are curious, it’s a quick shower. Get wet, lather up, rinse off, towel off, dress, and shiver, under several layers of blankets, and let’s not forget shared bodily warmth. A less radical approach is to wash standing in a bucket of warm water — heated up on the stove. Get wet, lather, rinse. And don’t forget to shiver.

Next, water pressure drops off altogether. People learn to wash with even less water. There is a lot of running around with buckets and plastic jugs. The worst part of this is not the lack of running water; it is that the toilets won’t flush. If the population is enlightened and disciplined, it will realize what it must do: collect their excretions in buckets and hand-carry them to a sewer inlet. The super-enlightened build outhouses and put together composting toilets, and use the proceeds to fertilize their kitchen gardens.

Under this combined set of circumstances, there are three causes of mortality to avoid. The first is simply avoiding freezing to death. It takes some preparation to be able to go camping in wintertime. But this is by far the easiest problem. The next is avoiding humans’ worst companions through the ages: bedbugs, fleas, and lice. These never fail to make their appearance wherever unwashed people huddle together, and spread diseases such as typhoid, which have claimed millions of lives. A hot bath and a complete change of clothes can be a lifesaver. The hair-free look becomes fashionable. Baking the clothes in an oven kills the lice and their eggs. The last is avoiding cholera and other diseases spread through feces by boiling all drinking water.

It seems safe to assume that the creature comforts to which we are accustomed are going to be few and far between. But if we are willing to withstand the little indignities of reading by candlelight, bundling up throughout the cold months, running around with buckets of water, shivering while standing in a bucket of tepid water, and carrying our poop out in a bucket, then none of this is enough to stop us from maintaining a level of civilization worthy of our ancestors, who probably had it worse than we ever will. They were either depressed or cheerful about it, in keeping with their personal disposition and national character, but apparently they survived, or you wouldn’t be reading this.”

~foodrules

Edge
Edge

NAI–
Just had a slight cough that just would not go away.
Tried everything and nothing really worked, but just
masked it or eased it a bit– Saw a bottle of “Oil of Oregano” extra strength in my herb cabinet, that I had
bought a couple years ago and never used–deluted it with
virgin olive oil half in half and started putting a half
dropper full under my tongue a few times a day.

Worked like a hot dam–the cats’ meow. In two or three days
cough gone, so I goggled “oil of oregano” to re educate
myself why I had bought it. I realized that it cures almost anything and a must have in your med cabinet–
Edge–

hopesprings
hopesprings

Yesssireee Bob! OO is the cat’s meaow, Edge.

Are you in TO? Or close? I am.

Dreamlander

MYSTERIOUS MISSILE LAUNCH
One of the earliest posts is this:
Comment by sunrvs on November 10, 2010 @ 1:27 am
Mysterious missile lights up the sky over the Pacific
Pacific Ocean (CBS8)- A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught on video Monday evening by a KCBS news helicopter.
[Note the time: Monday evening]
Later, another reader replied:
Comment by lew3 on November 10, 2010 @ 2:14 am
The missile was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, near Santa Maria, California (not far from my home). The missile was launched after 2, or 3 delays. The delays and the launch were covered in our local newspaper.
http://www.vandenberg.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123229784
The section below was copied from the news story above:

Team V launches Delta II

Posted 11/5/2010 Updated 11/6/2010
by Jeremy Eggers
30th Space Wing Public Affairs

11/5/2010 – VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. —
Vandenberg launched a Delta II rocket carrying the Thales Alenia Space-Italia
COSMO-SkyMed Satellite, Friday, Nov.5, at 7:20 p.m. from Space Launch Complex-2
on North Vandenberg.

This launch is the fourth and final for COSMO-SkyMed.

[The KCBS reported the incident as occurring on Monday. The VAFB mentioned the launch date as Friday, Nov 5. Could the launch be delayed until Monday?]

gwynned
gwynned

You have to watch the interview. Listen to what the Ambassador said at the end of the interview….To show our capacity to launch missles to asia as a kind of warning????? pretty scary… Why is he talking about it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/09/missile-launch-los-angeles_n_780858.html

spaghettid
spaghettid

Wow Nal that was a VERY LONG post. Sorry but i could not even try to read that…..

I must admit I am waiting for something to happen and the only things that keep coming are minor annoyances and daily musings, tinged with an errant rocket.

Wait we will.

On another note I will admit that I was surprised not to be the first to comment Monday. I am like my 6 year old as well.

My bank has no idea of any holiday or cash problem so these things are not yet systemic. Maybe just of the large scum-banks.

I think I need a drink!
Peace Out

spaghettid
spaghettid

Good thing I own a bar.

kohala889
kohala889

Precious metals just dropped like a rock.
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

Edge
Edge

Hope–Nope, I live on the west coast– about 30 km up the
valley from Vancouver, on acreage–The acreage I lease
to a wholesale shrub, tree, plant nursery– mostly in pots
and root balls. They also built about 8 greenhouses, put in
irrigation, well,roads, sewage treatment, so I do not think
they are going to leave soon, as all fixed improvements
stay.
There is still a lot building going on–lots of people moving in cause of the milder weather, the place is still booming–traffic is getting worse, but there are road, bridge and freeway projects in progress. Also a lot of hollywood film companies coming in, guess they like
working in the area–
Sorry to be so gabby–
Take care–
Edge–

lew3
lew3

Dreamlander, you are right. Sorry for my sloppy work!

hopesprings
hopesprings

No no that’s great Edge! My daughter tells me I must to BC. That everyone is like me there!
BCers actually call this Ontarible.
Seems BC is so plugged in and friendly.
Sounds like you are set. I too here; but, not with the same acreage.
i want as much for our US neighbors.

I hate was is being sold to them.
Austerity is total mind programming.

Folks, America has a lot. A lot of resources and a lot of ingenuity. Do not let these @$%#&*!#$#@@ take anything from you. Like Clif said money is an illusion. One these gargoyles have manufactured. Please don’t believe the subsistence posted above is your reality.

The land is yours. Don’t fall for the illusion.

Let’s work together here to come up with the reality and how to get around their tricks. They are all criminal.
Nothing truer than that.

Do not allow yourself to become nihilistic.

Assemble your community in your living rooms. Begin talking and forging bonds. Making plans. Strength in numbers.

Arm yourselves to the teeth with the Common law, the constitution, Admiralty Law/strawman defense, and of course the traditonal arsenal. Join up with Hutz organization ran by Tim Turner and more.

Power is en masse–ALWAYS!

I want to help. We will feel here too. The whole world will.

PLEASE DO NOT LET THE THIEVES IN AMERICA UNDER COLOR OF LAW STEAL ANY MORE FROM YOU. MAKE A COMMITMENT TO STOP BEING THEIR VICTIMS NOW.

No more nihilism. No more Austerity bull. No more!!!

Edge
Edge

kohala–
Precious metals just dropped like a rock.
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
Comment by kohala889 on November 10, 2010 @ 4:04 am
———————————————————–
Another shake out–guess we’re used to these by now–
The big banks and TPTB have to cover their naked shorts.
This is what scares the small investor out. The small guy
either jumps ship or out the window. In my opinion when it peaks only stupid, the brave and the big money is going to
left–If you look back, a person could see how they knocked
the price down on 911 and on the start of the wars–
Edge–

yankees23
yankees23
positivechange
positivechange

yankees,

maybe they were filming iron man 3?

sunrvs
sunrvs

Soros Bets on U.S. Financial Collapse
By Cliff Kincaid Monday, November 8, 2010

Another financial expert is expressing his deep disgust with the Federal Reserve’s decision to print more money and buy more U.S. debt, saying it is a sign that the U.S. capitalist system is moving closer to collapse.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/29682

gwynned
gwynned

Explanation of launched missile by former Ambassador to Nato: (seems like rather irresponsible if it’s only ‘speculation’. In the video he starts off by commenting on how impressive the missile is. VERY odd.

News 8 showed the video to Robert Ellsworth, former U.S. Ambassador to NATO and a former Deputy Secretary of Defense.

He said it didn’t appear to be a Tomahawk missile and said it would be safest to wait for definitive answers to come from the military.

Based on pure speculation, however, Ambassador Ellsworth said, with President Obama in Asia, perhaps this could have been a show of our military muscle.

“It could be a test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine underwater submarine, to demonstrate mainly to Asia, that we can do that,” he said, stressing that it was just a theory.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Everybody Here at the BFC,

I am sorry about the length of the Orlov post. I debated just using the link, but was afraid that it might disappear from the web. He has very good advice near the end about what signs to look for and how to survive.

Edge, I am going to go look for oregano oil. I have not had the flu for a long time and it is hard to believe how hard this one hit me.

For all the kind remarks addressed to me, thank you all. Things are looking dark out there, but we have to keep believing in ourselves if nothing else.

There is no doubt in my mind that the QE is going to piss off everybody in the world. It will have repercussions for all of us. The only solution to the mess that we are in is the removal of the clowns who caused the problems. They are going to fight tooth and nail BECAUSE they know what’s awaiting them at the end of any collapse. They will be held accountable and that is something that they truly want to avoid.

Unfortunately, they are surrounded by their paid goombahs who have no idea what is going on and will continue marching to the bankster’s drummer until their paychecks can only buy one loaf of bread and a fish stick. At that point, things will rapidly disintegrate.

We have to be ready to take care of ourselves when that point arrives.

nai2010

nai2010
nai2010

Precious Metals did just take a nose dive…something is up

Gold
1395.53 [down] -14.49

Silver
27.388 [down]-0.350

Platinum
1763.50 [down] -10.00

Palladium
696.50 [down]-15.00

11/09/10 2:27:14 PM CST

Grendizer
Grendizer

Hey Positivechange!

That’s none of that… it’s just me Grendizer getting pissed over the Federal Reserve actions and I’m thinking what to do next!!! 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-k2K0O8A-0&NR=1

positivechange
positivechange

Grendizer, should have realized. Next time a missile goes up, we’ll know you’re “bored”.

Take care.

Malia6
Malia6

Hey guys,

Here is Cliff High from half past human in a recent interview, sounds like as of Nov. 8th 2010:

He provides his insights on what is going and what may happen:
http://www.manticoregroup.com/radio/latest.htm

Edge
Edge

Hope–
You seem like a nice person and should not get too
emotional on what is going on–it’s too hard on your
system and health. You know the old proverb about leading
a horse to water. A lot of your southern friends are
sharp as a whip and know what is happening, and it is
their choice to make, whether to take action, sit and
watch, pray or wait for the ET’s to help. If you get too
vocal, you may find some are going to be peed off and say
it their problem, and outsiders should butt out. Just my
personal opinion. Trying to look at things from another
angle. I hope no offense–
God bless–
Edge–

P.S. nai –before you go out–Goggle “oil of oregano”
Here all health food stores carry it–make sure its’ for
internal use- there is another one for external use only
only with additive–

Grendizer
Grendizer

Hey Positivechange!

the Federal Reserve is a moving target, always paying tricks with us, but not for too long though… Next time I will get them, I won’t miss them! This I can promiss you!! 😉

hopesprings
hopesprings

Battery options to get off the grid:
http://www.countrysidemag.com/issues/91/91-6/Rex_A_Ewing.html

Naturally you never want to let these draw down too low for long life. You want something to generate energy. Even a small wind turbine or a solar panel will generate enough energy for lighting, small appliances. Will help psychologically and provide creature comfort.

Since they have hidden zero point energy it is time to work at getting off their meters! And finding continuity.

rafaelneville

wsszz wsszz…

hopesprings
hopesprings

Why does this Bermonkee have the right to keep indebting every American unfettered–it’s like he has obtained a permanent Loan Guarantee. He has no right to do this!!

It is truly the little guy with this QE2 that is guaranteeing more money to Wall Street–his buddies.
Obummer cheering him on. Say what?

This will put food and energy further beyond the reach of the little guy, cause the world to turn its back on USA.
Can somebody not put an end to this??!!

I am so disgusted with Bermonkee!

Like Spaghetti, I am going to pour myself some wine before I blow my cork!

O! if I could only be in a room with Bermonkee. He’d be merging with the drywall–I know I don’t sound Christian right now. May God forgive me! Give me Soros too. And Rocky BullWinkie! These flacid gargoyles are no contest for my intellect nor my physical prowess! ARRRRRRGGHHH!

mbridges
mbridges

Main stream media talking about open violent revolution?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=114_1289282916

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************
China downgrades US credit rating in forum.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=171700

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************

When JPM/HSBC Don’t Like The Results, The CME Just Changes The Rules: Full Revised Silver Margin Schedule

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/when-banks-dont-results-cme-just-changes-rules-full-revised-silver-margin-schedule

paladin
paladin

hope sweetie….its Bernanke…aka Helicopter Ben.

wbstreck
wbstreck

paladin ,WDS,BDS, Red & Green U got the our sanction, Shut up already, and shoot him em all ! right darylluke ?

hopesprings
hopesprings

That’s too kind Pal my friend… Bermonkey is better.

MBridges: Love that MSNBC interview 7:04. In a nutshell!

USA does NOT have an economic problem.
USA does NOT lack resources.
USA is not a poor country.
Americans are NOT living high on the hog–give me a break!

USA has been robbed by criminals (thanks to the cowardly Woodrow Wilson and all his successors) who have used all institutions, government, learning, health, military, media, to launder and whitewash their theft. It is such a BIG lie that we have trouble getting people to believe it.
This is our KEY problem. But we must.
FULL STOP

For Bermonkey to give this QE2 money to his criminal pals,
a handfull of greedy-selfish-cowardly-idiots on Wall Street (I know these characters–they think anyone who is not liquid to the tune hundreds of million $s are “losers”), destroying the livelihood of 330 million people in America and triggering an economic tsunami around the world is beyond comprehension. This must be stopped!!

These gargoyles must all be arrested, indicted, convicted now before it is too late. So many have cause, so many have evidence. Where are our Ninjas? Our white hats? The clock it ticking like a bomb.

Hutz, when you meet with Tim Turner et al, I hope they have a plan in this direction. It is time to galvanize everyone.

I am gathering a group here.

hopesprings
hopesprings

I have been looking at quarterly and last year results of so many corporations–especially gross revenue (before operating expenses) and they are inavariably in negative growth–most are now in the red. It’s bad. I am working on helping these corporations rejig to meet the mindset of their marketplaces…but, it’s going to be tough to help them soon. There will be a point of no return.

USA needs leadership right now. It’s not there.

If this bank holiday happens–there goes consumer confidence–then, corporate America. That’s it. No more jobs. No social security. We’re cooked.
Sorass and Bermonkey know this. They don’t care.

The Fed has to be closed now. It’s what the entire world wants.

goadrian
goadrian

Any body knows about the Russian troupes in Alaska ?

I think we will need to know there move. My opinion is simple: is for the Pole Shift soon to come movement.
But may be political or such… at the end.
Any input ?

A.

travelman
travelman

Hope –

Well, I am here based on an invitation from a friend but we are not in a social setting so what the hell I will speak, and when I asked if I should speak, I was fully encouraged to do so.

Paladin knows who I am, where I walk and talk and exactly what I do for a living. He was an encouraging voice to allow me to speak. For those of you that want to hear and enjoy reading my stuff, then thank Paladin. For those of you that just turn green every time you see my stuff, then thank Paladin. Either way he was your friend in this environment before I was here, albeit we have been hip locked for years. I am clearly in the forefront of certain activities and have more than extreme knowledge about others and some … well … not so much and I don’t care.

I am divorced, have kids, dogs and the whole family thing … I love and will die for the United States and all of our allies. I will take a bullet for any of you regardless if you see my position or if you are a fruitcake. I am a devote Christian because I have lived through things that have made me thank the Lord each and every day for the blessing that he bestows upon us and because I fully understand the spiritual systems of the world and how they affect us. I laugh my fanny off at people doing figure eights while standing on one foot while holding their ear and telling me they are balancing themselves (I apologize in advance for the comment … I am making a point not a crucifiction). I have faith with people with faith and I have watched what extremists can do to themselves and with others with their form of faith.

I cry when I stand at the Vietnam War Memorial and all of the other war memorials. I want to bitch slap the French and the other countries when the disrespect us Americans especially when I have family members buried in their who died for those third and fourth generation miscontents. My own father is buried in Arlington National and wanted nothing more than to be buried in the place that most represented the country he lived and fought for. I had a cousin that was as far to the left as possible constantly spewing her version of whateverdom … it only took one trip with me to the bowels of hell in another country to get her to see things differently. No pressure, just a site seeing tour. I have a mother that is so liberal it takes me weeks to mentally prepare for a weekend visit.

In short, the United States of America is the most amazing place in the world … you are free to think and do as you wish. You can buy this or sell that, you can burn the flag and vote at the same time. You can spit in our eye and we will turn my head for another day. We take the abuse of many and live to see another day. We still feed millions, protect millions and love millions … all without a single thank you from anyone … we still allow anyone to our shores regardless of the personal situation or plight.

So, why am I here. I was asked by a dear friend to visit. I am not here for the long term … I am here till I go abroad but just because I have information doesn’t mean that I cannot voice my personal opinions. In fact, for what I see here I am obligated to impart my view, if for no other reason than to challenge people who have a view that is so far out of the mainstream that it defies logic … at least, logic to someone in the system that knows the truth or knows that what is being said is just, flat out, not right or logical. As an example follow this.

I watched the JESSE show he did on HARPP. I want everyone to get the show and tell me exactly and specifically what he said that HARPP was. Not one thing specific, just a lot of conclusion and inferences. The show only brought to light something that everyone was wanting to hear about … it sold great slots for advertisers but nothing conclusive. In fact, if I where Lex Luther or if I was a lowly paid researcher, I wouldn’t have allowed anyone in the facility as I would know that regardless of the truth, someone in the video splicing room would cut out the opposing view to satisfy what they were being paid for. For everyone that just thought that I was dis-infoing you … relax and re-read the context of what I said.

If you want to know what is important, forget the San Andreas fault and the little men blowing it up. In fact, really question the value of what any conspiracy theorist has to say … remember this site is here to provide ‘Weekly geo-political news and analysis” as are the others. I ask you have you really seen any of that … truly and be honest and without thinking that the world must be coming to an end because I am here and that obviously means something is about to happen. Really folks, do you really think that this site makes a hill of beans to anyone in the “POWER ALLIANCE” or whatever they call it? People, there are hundreds of sites that have popped up all over the world expounding on something. Nobody has the time to place errant information for a couple hundred people to take to the masses … things move way too quick.

Now, if you have talked to Paladin then he will tell you that I get horns every once in a while but I have not flown in a little space ships although I have been close. I just want people to USE THEIR HEADS and not follow aimlessly. You can hang shit out of your nose and make noise but at least make sense.

I could care less what your color is … you bleed red, I could care less where you end up when you die … that’s your faith and belief system, I could care lees if your a big macho man or a girlie girl … life comes to an end sometime.

Stand up and be accounted for in a formidable fashion and talk sense … if you wouldn’t be comfortable standing on a soapbox in public and spewing stuff that wouldn’t create an audience, then why say it here. Although, I do prefer it being said here … most of this is snake oil but there are some damn good points.

What do I think is important … well … Watch American politics, become a student of it, know who is and who is not. Watch what is happening, watch what is going to happen and watch the results.

And to get it out of your system:

There are flying saucers …

There are no holes at the top and bottom of the earth …

There is an NWO …

There are no empty holes in the middle of the earth …

There is an effort for a one world monetary system …

The Federal Reserve System is not going to launch a missile, or whatever was said, to create a disaster so they and they alone can change the monetary system.

There are only people with souls or those that do not have souls.

Mariah Carey has breasts that are not real.

I state all of this without attitude … just hard to state without sounding attitudinal.

TMAN

hopesprings
hopesprings

Pal, I am reading the pages about Leo. It is heartbreaking.
Not just for Leo but also the deep realization of the depth and breadth of how corrupt our leaders are. What a false existence we’ve all had. I am so, so fed up.

Pal, how do we get out of this matrix of lies and deception? You and Travelman are the ones to suggest here.

Throw us a bone.

It is getting harder to wear a perky face every day…watching everyone chug the Kool-aid.

hut777
hut777

Hope when you get the group together it is important to sign them up with wet ink signatures . There is three pages to sign and three witnesses need to sign as well so you need four people to sign one up . Do you know your ambassador’s name in your state? he/she will help you and tell your of your state DeJure government and if they need any more positions filled . THE PLAN is a good one . Once DeJure government is set up in any jurisdiction it trumps the defacto laws .That is very exciting .That is our goal in every county . To be recognized by the world and funded the state government needs set up as well as the federal . Federal government is in place and working right now. Please get your friends together to join this historic political movement. If you want me to find your state ambassador I will just need to know the state. They are all very hard working and devoted to this cause .For we the people to be free on our land and the government to be our servants again.

hopesprings
hopesprings

Hutz my love: I would do anything to be able to do that but I am Canadian! When I go to America they don’t believe I am Canadian. We have big idiots running things here too. Lots of work to do.

Very encouraging on DeJure gov’t. I will send an APB to my friends in US. I will pray for all of you.

Please everyone do this for yourself. Hutz will you give them a link to Tim Turner’s site one more time?

hut777
hut777

Thank you for that Travelman.

========================================================
some tidbits of news someone may want to click on here just posted in the skype room .Enjoy.

[2:17:14 PM] valkyriesvigil: Cellphone tower data protected by US Constitution http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/05/cellphone_data_protected/

[2:25:05 PM] Melesa: Adam Rothschild calls the Prime Minister of Canada a slave!
http://thepopulist.net/?p=2860

hut777
hut777
hopesprings
hopesprings

Thanks Tman:
You are sweetest man and your words are far from caustic.
I get you.
We need more Tman in this world.
Don’t make a damsel cry! with such precious words.
Please don’t leave us anytime soon.

Understand the open heart people come here with.
I don’t think anyone here has any delusions about this site or who we are.
I am one of the new ones, I say humbly.

A metaphor: We are all holding hands in a dark trench, trying to find a match and get some light.

That’s all. I see a lot of humility in here. They complete me” LOL. I have been ignoring my physical friends who are chugging the Kool-Aid to find respite here.

This is only one blog Tman; but, it is a very special one.
Even if you see Ben’s stories as “off”.
What can poor Ben do with his predicament. Perspective.
I read the posts more closely than his stories.

Community and varying opinions is critical to make sense of our world right now.
And this site is a kaleidoscope.
You are here for good reason.
🙂

hut777
hut777

Canada has called President Tim Turner and the others they want to start a movement like this 100’s of Canadians have called so it wont me long Hope my dear.
This is going to spread like wildfire all over the world.
Here is their blog has very important info.
http://restoredusa.blogspot.com/

hut777
hut777

Rod Class Call – Tonight Ghostfighters / AIB Radio – EPISODE 343: Tues, Nov, 9, 2010 – 9pm EDT

Tuesday Night is GHOSTFIGHTERS RADIO NIGHT.

>>> Discussion: A New, 2nd Filing from Rod into the Coast Guard <<>> Here are Links to the New 2nd Coast Guard Filing and the letter back to Rod from the DOJ…
Tiny url for 2nd Coast Guard Filing… http://tinyurl.com/28rr6js
Url for letter to Rod from DOJ… http://privateattorneygeneral.spruz.com/downloads.htm?a=&act=get&guid=2E8CC3AF-73A4-4CAD-A303-D9C68A7AB3D1
NOTE: You need to be a registered member of Mac’s blog OR sign up in order to download files !

… Other info in this email…Please read the whole thing ! …

There are answers to the Defendant’s in the Coast Guard filing coming up that will require more funds
to be used to send those responses out !

*PayPal gifts for the Rod cause and filings* email to: increase.knowledge.info@gmail.com

hopesprings
hopesprings

Thanks Hutz on that Canadian tip re A. Rothschilds says Harper is his slave, etc… on his Facebook. This I assure you is going viral. It trust it is legit…Unbelievable.
That drunken cad in control of North America??
Lil’ wanker son of Pindar the Pinhead?
Thanks so much Hutz!

If only this were comedy.

asha4u
asha4u

Wow,
what an honest outbreak of a brainwashed to the most inner body cell this lost soul tman is.
On the other hand: when facing life danger I rather prefere his company than that of a any of the new age fallas I shared part of my life…
With no need to feed the troll by proving him wrong, I feel thankfull reagarding my Higher Self for having achived a different axis of view.

rafaelneville

Aack Aack Aack!

hut777
hut777

Hope the DeJuor congress is convening for the first time in Utah this weekend so soon the movement should be reported as press releases will certainly follow . This should start the funding of the Dejour movement as a documented convention shall make our new DeJour government recognized around the world as legit.This is where the fun starts .I hear the movement will have 18 trillion in the bank with no debt.
People if you need hope in these times or something to belong to that actually has a chance of bringing back all our freedoms and God given rights this is the hope and change our founders believed in . The founders were way ahead of there time to give us this second chance at the promise of america.God Bless America!

mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************
Golden Times: Silver, gold prices up on global crisis fears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sqy_ntxEuY&feature=player_embedded

darylluke
darylluke

Now, go(link below) make some $!
LAST chance to go long SILVER(SLW options?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62d-g-kKJQ&feature=sub

I got an odd speculation about that missile.
What if it was CHINESE?
A CHINESE ICBM minus a nuclear warhead launched from one of their stealth subs,eh?
Another speculation:
What if Hilary succeeded in getting the launch codes & it was shot on her command, hence the navy denials?

darylluke
darylluke

One year silver chart:
http://www.kitco.com/charts/techcharts_silver.html
Going into parabolic phase…
Todays pullback is last chance to board the bus leaving the station.
Next stop within 30 days? $50-$60/ounce.

hut777
hut777

WELCOME!The Republic of West Virginia blog.

Parkersburg WV John Denver sings Country Roads take me home. Come on home to Parkersburg West Virginia, my hometown. I wanted to include some photos of local scenes for those that live out of town.. I thought I had more pictures than that but couldn’t find them. sorry. Hope you enjoy anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfi3SSJPG9Y

This is beautiful and brings tears to my eyes.. Such young people feeling this way now.. gives me hope that perhaps a new generation of intelligent moral loving humans will reign.. thank you for this..*
born again american
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZSBGHm0RY

The restored republic of West Virginia website created by Hutz
===============================================
http://republicofwv.blogspot.com/

g7enn
g7enn

Gold and silver prices here surged to new record levels today on frantic buying by stockists and jewelers

Price of Gold and Silver

Record Earnings Boost Silver Stocks Amid Precious Metals Rally

The Fed crossed the Rubicon last week with its announcement of another massive tranche of QE (Quantitative Easing or in common parlance money printing), known as QE2…. The junkie has graduated to another level, from that of being merely a chronic debtor, unable to live within its means and sponging on the rest of the world, to selling its own future down the river in order to maintain its voracious consumption habits in the present.

One thing we can be sure of is that the rest of the world is “not going to take this lying down”… so we can expect this new fashion for massively ballooning the money supply to catch on increasingly around the world, as various countries seek to maintain adequate liquidity and remain competitive in global trade by taking the same proactive hands on approach to manipulating their currencies in a downward direction as the US.

…we face the prospect of massive global across the board currency debasement and inflation resulting from same. Where does hot money go in such circumstances? – it goes into tangibles, commodities, collectibles and the like – and especially into the Precious Metals – anything which provides a bulwark against the ravages of inflation. Sure – there are massive deflationary forces out there, but since politicians and business leaders like to make money and be popular for as long as possible, they are going to keep these forces at bay for as long as possible, regardless of the future consequences. A deflationary collapse means riots and politicians being chased through the streets and being strung up from lamp posts etc. That collapse must come, and come it will but hard on the heels of a massive hyperinflationary episode that leave the broad swath of the middle and working classes destitute and ruined.

Fed Crosses the Rubicon and Ignites Powerful Parabolic Gold Bull Market

Plutocracy Now!

Jim Willie on Rampant QE Fraud, Entire World Angered At U.S. Policy Makers

America Has Lost its Imagination, Its Population Brainwashed to Do the Elites Bidding

Shocker: Rand Paul already disappointing libertarians

Gerald Celente – “The Global Economy’s In Collapse”

SILVER NEWS: RICO LAWSUITS AGAINST BANKS

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

hut777
hut777

darel I am inclined to believe the Chinese might pull off such a stunt.

darylluke
darylluke

Max Keiser on Golman Sacks theft/sculduggery in China: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgABQzWQ-Ww&feature=related&has_verified=1

darylluke
darylluke
paladin
paladin

asha4u

Are you calling the Tman a troll? And if so, could you define that for me….and maybe the rest of us?

I would just say that everyone’s view, as you put it, is dependent upon where you sit. So if you have a chair inside the house, the view would be totally different than if you were sitting outside, on the front porch, having your brandy, smoking a fine cigar and enjoying a cool fall evening.

darylluke
darylluke

Max Keiser Report No.93 posted 14 hours ago.
Stiglitz nobel prize winner recommends all bankster should be jailed, so that economies can recover.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/u/12/rpkQiGvWChY

wovolve42
wovolve42

Okay Rafael, I have to ask – whats up with your sound effect expressions???? lol

Tman – come one, give us some actual info- its well known that fact is stranger than fiction, so when some of this really crazy stuff comes up, discernment can be difficult. I dont believe anything on tv. So as hope says, throw us bone!!

darylluke
darylluke

Open:27.80
High:28.72
Low:25.85
Volume:149,077,605
MASSIVE Tug-of-War between Goldman/JPMorgan vs. China in the silver etf? I believe so!!! Look at this charts showing the HUGE spike in volume! Wow!
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=slv&sid=0&o_symb=slv&freq=1&time=4

lew3
lew3
foodrules
foodrules

Thank you, Lew.
~foodrules

hut777
hut777

Interesting site
======================
http://www.nesarasucks.com/

kohala889
kohala889

Mahalo Hutz for the musical tour of your hometown, Parkersburg WV. Motto: “Let’s Be Friends” Take me home country road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfi3SSJPG9Y

and for this very appronpriate selection for Veterans Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZSBGHm0RY

from Restored Republic of West Virginia blog
http://republicofwv.blogspot.com/

================================================================

Nesarasucks.com looks very much like psyops.

Aloha

Malia6
Malia6

Re: Comment by malia6 on November 10, 2010 @ 5:59 am

This is a great ‘3 hour interview’ with CLIF HIGH from Halfpasthuman.com

Everyone here should listen to this – seems to be dated Nov. 8th 2010: Clif High says that Nov. 14th, 2010 is an important date as things will become very evident regards to devaluing of the US dollar.

He touches on a lot of topics.

And he expects things to be in turmoil in the U.S. until the end of Jan. 2011.

Check it out for yourself:
http://www.manticoregroup.com/radio/latest.htm

patriotkate
patriotkate

Tman:
“So let me ask … with all of the information you have attained … what have you done with it … have you fought a cause with it, had a conversation with someone that would make a difference with it, stood at the gates of your government officials and yelled it to them … or have you sat in this room and just yacked and scratched trying to figure it out … if you are trying to figure it out then a contrarian voice can be placed in in the converwation for balance.
Let me ask … if you has to pick up a weapon and defend you and your family would you do it. If you didn’t have the weapon what would you do … to some of us that is a very real question because on this side of the table that is a very single question could be the difference in life, liberty and justice for all. Regardless of what you think of us big bad government boys … tough. Do something that will make a difference, we do everyday … keeping the balance, knowing who’s who and what’s what. When one of ours is out of line we handle it internally … some sooner than later.”
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS COUPLED WITH ACTION.
It occurred to me that TPTB would be wise not to cut off the internet, because that’s when millions and millions would hit the streets probably in mass riots and that would not end well.
Although I’ve been a political/news junkie for decades, I really started learning much of the truth about 4 years ago, although pieces of it prior to that, so I’m a neophyte here compared to the many intelligent contributors to this blog.
I agree with you 100% and I have often been concerned that many people spend their days on blogs like this and then never take any action to make the changes and I’ve asked the question are you doing something about it? That’s why I got off the couch early on attending rallies, calling, faxing and e-mailing my congressional representatives, talking to everyone I know and most of my customers (I’m in sales to small to medium sized independent businesses) joined local groups, gone to Washington twice in 5 months and it had previously been about 40 years. In the upcoming elections, I promoted locally, attended events and was a Poll Watcher on election day.
On the local level we have to change our local governments, our school boards and every beauracratic institution needs an overhaul from the local to the Federal level. We need to change buying habits and I’ve done that by buying locally when I can, buying produce at the Farmer’s market instead of the grocery store, pursuing alternative medicine as many here practice.
Thank you for what you do and your encouragement to this group to take more action for positive change.
PK

patriotkate
patriotkate

Tman’s comments spurred me to think about something that’s been bugging me for a while in various comments posted here regarding the true, organic grassroots movement that’s taken hold in the U.S.
I do have a bone to pick with some here, including some longtime posters whom I respect in their contributions here. I helped organize one of the first local Tea Parties and I have to admit that the mainstream inspired hatred for “Tea Partiers” or worse yet, the derogatory sexual slang of “TeaBa—r” baffles and disturbs me and I find it particularly distressing coming in this blog from supposedly ‘enlightened’ individuals who claim to love all of humanity or followers of Christ but spew nasty remarks about people you know nothing about.
The Tea Partiers are democrats, republicans, independents, and libertarians. We are white, black, Asian, Hispanic, European immigrants and more.. We are factory workers, nurses, salespeople, psychologists, homemakers, school teachers, firemen, some lawyers, restaurant owners, small manufacturing owners, veterans and retirees. We promoted candidates of all races and ethnicity in the last election and many of them were fortunate to win (first woman of Indian descent for Governor, first Hispanic woman Governor, first son of Cuban exiles as a Senator. The South returned two Black Republican Congressmen for the first time since Reconstruction. One of the local black candidates for the House was supported by (you’ll be shocked to learn) the Republican Women’s group. Unfortunately, he did not win and will likely try again in 2012.
The common thread is that we are all terrified that our country has been stolen, who know our wealth has been stolen, our economy is in shambles and see our individual liberties slipping away every day. We are disturbed about the Patriot Act, the wars and more. (I’m furious about the body scanners now being employed at our airports and refuse to fly as a result. Why there are no National boycotts protesting this stuns and disappoints me and maybe that’s coming.).
All we want is the truth, adherence to our organic Constitution, honest committed true “Representatives” of the People, small, smart and efficient government with most of the power back where it belongs at the local and state level and we don’t want the government intruding in every aspect of our lives. We believe that charity begins at home and it’s our duty to help others who cannot help themselves. We know there will always be people in society whom we need to assist and protect. However, we have deep, deep resentment for ANY Entitlement Attitude from anyone. We believe in meritocracy and individual sovereignty.
So, you see the Taxed Enough Already movement is really a true, grassroots Freedom Movement. We’re not back woods. gun-toting, redneck, angry racists as portrayed by the lying media and fringe elements. We’re not Neocon war-mongers.
We are the largest majority of Americans who have largely found out that we can’t trust our government, corruption is rampant at all levels just like everyone else.
Our biggest sin, just like those who don’t think they agree with us, was believing the lies our government has told us and the agenda that has been perpetrated on us for at least 100 years.
What I see here from many is that it’s still the duality battle, the right/left fake paradigm. I’ve been saying for years that in the U.S. the Republicans and Democrats are just two heads of the same monster.
So, I applaud Tman for this challenge to this group of highly intelligent contributors and that is for each of us to look at how we can make a difference in creating a new and better world for all.
PK

getem
getem

Hi All

I just want to weigh in here with my personal good wishes to Paladin and Travelman and others who are working to rid us of TPTW. Thanks for all you are doing to free the world of this evil mob. Please stay safe! You sound like remarkable people. Thank you.

Hutz and Hope, when they free America and Canada, can you please send them on down to Australia. We have turncoats here so far up a certain orifice of these evil doers that you can’t find their shoe laces! We need a good clean sweep to rid us of the vermin also.

rafaelneville

wovolve:

Easy, I’m Boooored….
Going down again I guess, biorhythms are low this week…

wovolve42
wovolve42

Rafael- Okay, got it!! well, if it makes you feel better, you’ve been cracking me up!

jj59
jj59

Hello everyone. I haven’t been making many posts lately, but after reading through the latest comments here, I could not walk away without leaving a short comment for you to ponder.

First, I want to say thank you to the TMan. I loved everything you have said and I feel your honesty when you say you love and care about this country.

It is hard for some of us to appreciate what someone in your position does, and/or represents, because from the outside looking in, all we can see is perhaps service to the elite cabal. However, because of my friendship with Paladinn which I am grateful for, and who I deeply respect, I suppose I am privy to know first hand that you ARE fighting for the good of We The People and for TRUTH in whatever capacity that may be, as well as dealing with very dangerous and deceptive people all over the world.

I believe the hat on your head is white…, but at times it probably contains some shades of grey. Just as long is it doen’t go beyond that. Capeash? The folks here have had all we care to take from the global elite and although our voices are small, most here are doing everything we can do to assist in waking up the rest of the world and many of us have reached hundreds in a very short time. We call and we write to our county, state, and government officials. We do our best to discern what is disinfo from what might be legit, we use logic too, but sometimes even that should be measured against what might potentially be spititual or of divine essence. Because of your position as well as training and education to do what you do, you primarily look at things from that “what’s logical about this?” perspective. However, IMO, all of the info coming forth and that is gathered and shared here, all needs to be viewed from every angle including upside down and inside out. Most here are well aware of the thick web of deceptions, lies, fraud, and the illusion that the cabal has spun for hundreds, if not thousands of years, and which humanity is finally waking up to and trying dsperately to undo.

Tman is NOT a troll guys. He’s bringing his perspectives to the table here, and I believe he is trying to help us better see through some of the nonsense or least what he percieves to be nonsense. We are all one and as long as each one of us continues to search for truth and sort through the BS, every perspective matters…each understanding is another dot that might just lead to the next and turn out to be the right connection! You never know what you don’t know.

cfree928
cfree928

Just to get off the doom ‘n gloom for a bit….I know I’m dreaming, but I want one of these…this lifetime please!
http://greenbuildingelements.com/2008/12/01/hand-build-an-earth-sheltered-house-for-5000/

hut777
hut777

cfree me too

mbridges
mbridges

Truly original, warm and inviting. It reminds me a bit of what I imagined the gingerbread house to look like, in the story of Hansel and Gretel.

kohala889
kohala889

Looks like Hobbits live there.

mbridges
mbridges
mbridges
mbridges

**************************************************************
Chris Hedges’ Columns
A Recipe for Fascism

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_recipe_for_fascism_20101108/

XL

I just wanted to add my two cents in here, take it as you will… (I’m a newbie here, please be gentle! *grin*)

I have spent many years in the military special intelligence field, traveling around the world and have participated in several large events. While I wasn’t doing any of the black-ops stuff, I did get the inside scoop on a ton of things that made me realize there is a LOT more going on than the press is telling you. After I got out, I spent years trying to sort all this stuff out. Something never seemed right, although I couldn’t put my finger on what it was. For many years I analyzed the current events going on in the middle east and elsewhere, trying to figure out a way to solve the world’s problems (why? I wasn’t sure). None of it made sense though, every time I thought I had it figured out, another event happened that completely destroyed my theory.

Then, earlier this year, something happened to me that forever changed my outlook on everything. The details of that are not important to repeat, but suffice it to say that afterwards I became much much more spiritually aware. I then knew I had a mission and I asked my guides what I had to learn to accomplish my mission. Well….. I was directed to this truth movement (and now this website), and ever since then it has been like an avalanche of information has descended upon me. I have spent months now trying to sort this all out and make sense of it. But, the biggest thing I found out was what I was really doing during my military tours. This is important because I was a very well-informed person (or at least I thought I was), and I thought I knew exactly what was going on. Now that I have traveled down the rabbit hole of this truth movement, I have found out that just about everything I was doing during my military career was a facade. All of those things I had accepted as fact back then, but didn’t sit well with me, have now been explained, and now they make sense.

To quote Richard Hoagland, “the lie is different at every level”. Even I fell for this BS… Hook, line, and sinker. If you hear of a conspiracy theory within a particular industry, and you ask someone you know that works in that industry if it true and they tell you it isn’t, that doesn’t mean that it isn’t true. It simply means that that person actually might not know. I know, I was that person, I perpetuated those lies myself, without even knowing it. Please don’t discredit people because you are not hearing the same story. Each person has part of the story, rarely do they have the whole thing. Find the common denominators and figure out what the truth really is. Remember, all myths and conspiracy theories have an element of truth to them.

Predicting the future is dicey, if any one thing doesn’t come true you are labeled as a fraud. Can you then prove that the future wasn’t altered simply because you had reported what was going to happen? And if they changed the future of what you said, does that mean that your reporting it averted a tragedy? Deep questions that I don’t have a good answer to…

Each of us has a mission, whether we know it or not. For most of us, it might be as simple as discovering the truth and informing others. For people like Ben, Travelman and Paladin, their mission takes a much more interactive role, and they are putting their lives on the line for us. The least we can do in return is to do our own jobs and assist in any way possible.

I have faith that if we all do our jobs, regardless if they don’t see all that important, everything will work out in the end.

joanietara
joanietara

“the lie is different at every level” as is the truth, thank you for your insights!

lew3
lew3

XL, thank you for your post and welcome to the Ben Fulford Cafe (BFC)!

sierra
sierra

Re:
Re Comment by cfree928 on November 10, 2010 @ 1:08 pm
Post and Link to “Green Buildings”… also noticed a link to the following:

The “Home Dome” for Homeless…Designed by a 12 Year Old
The trash-plex looks like a Mongolian yurt, and let Max walk away with $10,000 and a Dell laptop. He also got a trip to Boston out of it. But Max had this to say, “I don’t really care about the money. I care about helping people.”

http://greenbuildingelements.com/2009/02/26/12-year-old-makes-homeless-shelter-from-trash/

So Lew… whatever your highest LOC score I think this 12 year old has just hit it!

Sierra

darylluke
darylluke

ANYONE notice that David Wilcox has still NOT posted the interview he had with Benjamin Fulford?

He said they talked about stuff not covered in Benjamin’s latest interview, nor this news-blog.

I WANNA HEAR IT DAVID WILCOX!!

Where is it??

lew3
lew3

LOC is going up. For the past many months, the LOC of most of us here has been “parked” at 645. However, 3 days ago, I noticed that it had jumped up to 665. That is not huge but after many months of no change, I wonder what is happening. About one year ago, the LOC of most of us here was 545. Some people say that the rise in LOC is the result of energy of some type streaming at us more and more as our solar system passes through the plane of our galaxy (the ecliptic). Other ideas?

wovolve42
wovolve42

Re Comment by cfree928 on November 10, 2010 @ 1:08 pm

I would love to live in a house like this – magical

Trvlman and Paladin – I appreciate the work you and others on the inside on doing on our behalf – we may never know how much your work has benefitted us but I am positive it will

Lew – maybe its a result of everyone’s energy coming together? Being more exponentially powerful perhaps?

kohala889
kohala889

Daryl, I hope Wilcock isn’t avoiding us on account of certain people on this site who denigrated his work There are many here who do look forward to his perspective. The more viewpoints the better.

Aloha

cfree928
cfree928

…”I found that whole Vitamin D works better than the D-3 being sold everywhere.” Got a link?? I looked everywhere…Whole Vit D= zilch!

lew3
lew3

Thanks, Sierra! That 12 year old is something else. His LOC = 665; unusual for someone so young.

g7enn
g7enn

Did the CIA Poison Paul Robeson?

Return to the Gold Standard would be madness

HOW RED CHINESE BLACKMAILED US SECRETS OUT OF BUSH WHITEHOUSE?

The Vatican is the Illuminati

Laurel Canyon era that we are primarily concerned with, the wild and wooly 1960s, which we will take a closer look at in the next chapter of this saga.

1. We have learned that murder and random acts of violence have been a part of the culture of the canyon since the earliest days of its development.
2. spooks posing as entertainers have likewise been a part of the canyon scene since the earliest days
3. spooks who didn’t even bother to pose as entertainers were streaming into the canyon to report to work at Lookout Mountain Laboratory for at least twenty years before the first rock star set foot there.
4. we are supposed to believe that all of these musical icons just sort of spontaneously came together in Laurel Canyon (one finds the words “serendipitous” sprinkled freely throughout the literature). But how many peculiar coincidences do we have to overlook in order to believe that this was just a chance gathering?
5. (Jim Morrison) find yourself fronting a band that is on the verge of taking the country by storm. Just a mile or so down Laurel Canyon Boulevard from you lives another guy who also recently arrived in Laurel Canyon, and who also happens to front a band on the verge of stardom.
6. (David Crosby) He happens to be married to a girl that you attended kindergarten with, and her dad, like yours, was involved in atomic weapons research and testing (Admiral George Morrison for a time did classified work at White Sands). Her husband’s dad, meanwhile, is involved in another type of WMD research: chemical warfare.
7. almost all of you hail from (or spent a substantial portion of your childhood in) the Washington, D.C. area
8. now find yourselves on the opposite side of the country, in an isolated canyon high above the city of Los Angeles, where you are all clustered around a secret military installation.
9. background in research on atomic weapons, your father is probably familiar to some extent with the existence and operations of Lookout Mountain Laboratory, as is the father of your kindergarten friend, and probably the fathers of a few other Laurel Canyon figures as well.
10. what do you suppose the odds are that all of that just came together purely by chance?

LAUREL CANYON

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

fixthefuture
fixthefuture

Comment by kohala889 on November 10, 2010 @ 2:59 pm
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I posted once some time ago that I thought some
of his some stuff may be dis-info, I stated also I wasn’t sure, ……..definitely wasn’t trying to discourage his participation!

lew3
lew3

For an immense amount of info on vitamin D, go to:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

It was started by Dr. John Cannell, a local doctor. He has cautioned about taking too much vitamin A with vitamin D. The reason is that they compete with each other at one type of cellular receptor. If I remember correctly, he recommends no more than 2,000 I.U. of rpeformed (from fish oil) vitamin A if you are taking 5,000 I.U. of vitamin D3 per day. Also, they should not be taken at the same meal. He prefers beta carotene, which our bodies convert to vitamin A, as required. However, people vary in the efficiency of that conversion. Plus, each of us has different requirements for all nutrients. So… for many years, I have used Applied Kinesiology (muscle testing) to “dose” our nutritional supplements. I use the same techinque for truth testing.

cfree928
cfree928

Lew, MK, Hope, anyone connected to Ben…someone – please ask him to have the Webmaster put a ‘comment length’ guideline statement at the top of the Comments Box …3 strikes + you’re…but (who)WTF’s watching/counting anyway?.eee…ououou, not what I came here for…

cfree928
cfree928

Huge inflx INFLUX of information coming through rite now……
SO BE IT . . . WOW!!!!

sierra
sierra

German protests “a spark from which a new political movement can grow” says academic: Protestors’ heroism wins respect and sympathy of whole country.

In Germany a protest against the authoritarian Berlin government unequalled in scale and drawing support from all sections of society, has ended with an unparalleled victory. It is true that the nuclear waste which was the immediate focus of the protest finally reached its destination in Gorleben this morning. But what happened in the preceding 48 hours has changed the political landscape.
……
„There is a feeling that those on top just do whatever they want and consider the people to be stupid. We won’t put up with that. We’re going to get involved,“ sociologist Dieter Rucht said, summing up the feeling of the people of Germany.

The police operation against the protestors in Wendland went on for more than two days and night without a break. It took two days and nights for the police to beat clear a path for the transport of nuclear waste to a depot in Gorleben, northern Germany.

The police had to fight for every inch of the railway track, for every inch of the road, for every crossing and for every track through the woods. No one took a step back. And if the police finally cleared the last 4,000 protestors this morning from the road to allow the convoy of trucks laden with Castor containers to trundle into Gorleben depot, it was only because there were a staggering 20,000 police officers, hundreds of police cars, helicopters, mounted police deployed.

But not even the sheer numbers would have been enough in the face of such determined, organised and creative resistance. The police literally had to beat the protestors out of the way and they did so with incredible brutality.
….
The police chiefs clearly reckoned that no civilians could or would withstand the assaults with batons, pepper spray and the tear gas, or stand up to such punishment. They thought that the people – school children, students, the elderly protesting on behalf of their children at work– would crack under the relentless harrassment, the threats of arrest and imprisonment, the freezing cold, the tear gas, batons, horses, helicopters, water cannon, dogs as well as the relentless glare of the floodlights that made the wood as bright as day at midnight.

But everyone stood their ground and now the whole country talks about the protestors with deep respsect – a respect that no single politician has been talked about for years.

At stake was not just the nuclear policy of the government, rejected by the overwhelming majority of the people and profiting just a handful of corporations. At stake was the whole issue of whether Germany is still a democracy in which the government follows the will of the people or an authoritarian police state run by corporations and banks for their profit.
…. (rest of article)

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/german-protests-a-spark-from-which-a-new-political-movement-can-grow-says-academic-protestors-heroism-wins-respect-and-sympathy-of-whole-country/#more-3364

>>>>>>>>>>
Sierra

sierra
sierra

US Federal estate was covertly transferred to European ownership in 1913. All subsequent American Presidents have signed the legal authorities. Documents circulating widely. Heads of foreign governments currently held hostage in Washington DC.

THE DOCUMENTS

Reflect the sale of all United States Gov’t Buildings, Lands and Assets to the Hapsburgs in 1913. They subsequently transferred ownership to the Austrian Gov’t. This sale included The White House, The Pentagon, The Supreme Court and The Treasury Buildings. It included all Military Bases in the U.S. and all Military Equipment including Ships, Planes, etc. and included ALL Federal Lands. It involved the takeover of our Court Systems by Admiralty (Maritime) Law and the suspension/cancellation of the U.S. Constitution.

These DOCUMENTS have been AUTHENTICATED and true and correct copies are in the hands of ‘the Countries’, The Courts, The Military, JAG, Etc.. Copies of the Incorporation Documents for the U.S. Corporation are also in the hands of the Courts and the Countries.

For the last three days the heads of the Austrian and Swiss Governments have been detained in D.C., their movements restricted, their planes blocked on the ground by HLS and the Military, communications between the tower and the planes cut off. This morning the Austrians and Swiss, attempting to get the Trigger Packs out for delivery were blocked by the Military which was instructed to stop them at any cost.

THE DOCUMENTS, or aspects thereof, have been signed by all Presidents including Obama. These Documents are to be exposed to the American People which is the reason for the desperate efforts to stop the deliveries and in turn the release of the Documents. All involved in and with the Incorporated Federal Government including the Military are desperate to retain the Status Quo and themselves in power. The Courts had given them 45 days to vacate the buildings owned by others. That time frame expired yesterday. They had been ordered to vacate taking only their Personal Possessions with them. The Court says these rulings WILL BE ENFORCED.

THREATS AGAINST PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS ARE CONTINUING while those discussed above continue to be detained.

(Note: this is a “casper update”… I found the article/link on http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/ site)

http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1289335619

>>>>>>>>>>>>
So… has anyone here seen the documents referred to here, that are apparently “circulating internationally”?

Sierra

kohala889
kohala889

Fix, about Wilcock, wasn’t thinking of your comment. Anyone can criticize anything posted here. I’m sure that David has a thick skin and will return no matter what is said.

cfree928
cfree928

Open letter/note to TPTW …
To pull any of your false flag agendas off requires that most of US are Asleep… not true anymore now…especially now…the more you take from us the more powerful we are…don’t you get it?
Wake Up you “estupidos”! … WE see who you are and what you are trying here now! … 350+ Million of US to 1> Million of you pathological ZIONIST JESUIT- SHITS and you really think you can administer this one??? Your’e on TV and InterNet watch 24/7 in ALL dimensions. Your Reptoid Master is even laughing at your stupid groveling…and running scared. Go hide if you think you can…But no one hides from Our Mother-Father-God… Your real self!!! Starve the Reptile…Just say NO to VIOLENCE, Separation, Racism and FEAR !!!!!! Express Love and share, gratefully. Truth in Action.

mackenzie
mackenzie

Yeh, David Wilcock is great. He’s always so positive even in the face of criticism – I greatly value his opinion. I think especially at these times people need to create and give back positive energy, especially to those that give it out the most and so often.

This poem just came to mind:

One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints,
other times there was only one.
This bothered me because I noticed that during the low periods of my life, when I was suffering from anguish,
sorrow or defeat, I could see only one set of footprints,
so I said to God,
“You promised me, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always.
But I have noticed that during the most trying periods of my life there has only been one set of footprints in the sand.
Why, when I needed you most, have you not been there for me?”
God replied,
“The years when you have seen only one set of footprints,
my child, is when I carried you.”

anonymous
anonymous

Taken from a private board:

Communications between us and a person, Mr Whistleblower, working with OITC.

Response to Connie MacBean:-
Dear Connie MacBean,
Please refer in blue below
Dear Mr Whistleblower,

First let me thank you for your quick response and excuse myself for not getting back earlier.

No thanks necessary for the quick response. The subject matter was one that demanded a quick response, whereas other more general questions directed at us were not considered as important at the time.

I had to travel and get some face time with one of my sources before answering. That will not be necessary going forward. I very much want to see this through and see if we can come to an agreement on the historical aspect and what to eventually publish regarding the material in the presentation. I hope you can help us in filling in the blanks, correcting the facts and adding more meat and details to the bone so to speak all in the interest of achieving a far greater understanding of the whole issue. An understanding we hope to bring to the general public somehow. Definitely through Fourwinds.com but eventually also (hopefully) to a wider audience. I take heart at your comments below and hope that you can help us clarify some of what is missing.
However, it does leave out many vital and important facts
> which in my opinion would be highly relevant to people making, or
> achieving, a far greater understanding of the whole issue
For now, lets treat it as “someone’s perception of history” and continue in that spirit.
If we can gain each others trust I see two goals we should be able to work towards.
1) Get an objective factual history presentation together and work towards getting that information out in the public domain. This is step one and should be easy enough to do. All to make it possible for people to have “a far greater understanding of the whole issue”

May I refer at this point to your item 1).
What concerns me here, is that your focus is mainly relevant to one quite small part of the whole subject matter. There are hundreds, if not thousands of other parts which all make up the bigger picture. Unfortunately, many of those parts are, or still remain classified “Secret”. These could be parts that are between Government(s) and other Government(s), Allied Powers and Government(s), and even privately between the various Royal Families of the World. You will understand that agreements, or arrangements, between various Royal Families are “Private Arrangements / Agreements”, and although some of these are referred to in a few Treaties, those Treaties are still held “Secret” whereby access is extremely restricted even at the highest level.
To get the correct and illuminating information, in its totality, out to the public domain under these circumstances is just not possible. Whatever is released publicly is, and will always remain a part of all relevant information and could be misleading to many, as numerous vital and important factors will, unfortunately, always be missing because of this ridiculous “Secrecy” Factor. I say ridiculous because one reason was the fact that the Royal Families agreed to the fact that these assets should be used for all Nations of the World, and not be allowed to be controlled, or taken possession of by those groups throughout the world that were gradually eroding and deposing Royal Families, in favour of what they referred to as “Democracy”, or groups with the ultimate aims of replacing (under a false Banner) the Royal Families and grasping the power for themselves. Again, unfortunately, it is one specific country that protects the “Secrecy” factor, which also allows for “Plausible Deniability” and the continuing Theft and Plunder of assets by the very same country.

We, I believe, are both aware of the various groups I am referring to, some of which do actually consist of disgruntled members of Royal Families, or very distant members of Royal Families, whose allegiances are not to their country, but to their ideologies and that of the groups they belong to.

Only 2 years ago, we came across a group who referred themselves as “Knights Templar” attempting to buy Gold which was stolen out of the Philippines and Thailand. They were working with the Federal Reserve and Deutsche Bank in Germany. Another example happened quite recently with another general inquiry to us. This one we saw through quite quickly and as it turns out we are now aware of how, in part, the “Jews” control many countries in Africa, utilising such organisations as the IMF, WB, and even the UN, plus various Intelligent Agencies.
Step 1 is not, and never will be, an easy one to achieve, not in a “one off” situation. In our opinion, this will take years of gradually “Nibbling Away” at the situation, which is our “Modus Operandi” at this moment in time.

In the 13 years following the appointment of H.E. to the position of International Treasury Controller, Legal Heir / Owner / Sole Arbiter, we have expended considerable time working and correcting the enormous amount of problems created by the previous Trilateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission (USA, France and UK). These problems are so severe and numerous that it will take many more years to resolve them all, if that is ever possible, because they are so complex and tend to be linked to other not directly connected Treaties, Conventions, Agreements etc. of which the Reagan-Mitterand Protocols is just one

To quickly refresh your memory on the latter, if I may. Two illegal Presidential Decrees by Reagan that under US law legalised what is referred to under International Law and International Treaty Law, as breaches of International Treaty Laws and illegal acts against the Collateral Accounts, which were applied to be used for covert operations against another country (Russia).
In order to give these illegal acts some visible but not legal basis / foundation, Reagan and Mitterand put together numerous countries in these separate protocols, without actually revealing the monetary source, so that the whole operation appeared to be of International Treaty Status supported by many countries of the world, when in fact the basis of such protocols were derived from the illegal acts of an American President / Government without any legal basis whatsoever.
It is this type of situation, of which there are many, which I refer to as “There are hundreds, if not thousands of other parts which all make up the bigger picture“. Deliberate inter-related activities, but most of which are totally separate and individual in their form, substance, and relatively to the Collateral Accounts, but all concocted / structured by the Americans to allow illegal use of the assets of the Collateral Accounts.

It is for this reason why I state that no one part of all of this can be taken / considered separately or individually from all other parts.
I can inform you quite openly that assets held in Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, and some held by other countries, do, in fact carry illegal Liens / Charges imposed by those parties that are, and have been, illegally using these assets for many years. The American Banks (many of them) are all guilty of this, as is the American Government, Federal Reserve, British and European Banks, IMF and World Bank, UN, plus many others. This is one reason why the world is in such a mess with approximately $3 quadrillion USD in illegal derivatives floating around in the market that no one is prepared to pay against.
I do admit that we are partly to blame for this worldly mess, as we will tolerate the situation no more. The line was drawn by H.E. many years ago, when these illegal liens were first recognised. The first step was to stop all legal funding to the IMF and WB, Strange, but not so strange, that the IMF records a $400 bill deficit in 2006 and who now wants to sell gold, recorded under the Collateral Accounts that they hold, to salvage themselves.

You should also be made aware of the fact that we are working with several countries that are equally dismayed, and totally disillusioned by the illegal practices of specific western countries, whereby in due course, we will, under special and applicable protocols, call the Nations of the World together to force the necessary changes that will bring about the real and original objectives of All Hereditary Owners of the Assets, as they are the only ones, as far as I am aware that can force the implementation of the purpose and objectives written by our forefathers, for the benefit of the world, via H.E. as the Legal Heir / Owner / Sole Arbiter.

2) Try to work together using the channels/information you have together with the channels/information we have towards striving to force BoE/FED to implement the various agreements that was put in place by our forefathers starting in 1857. For a list of agreements we see relevant we can communicate at a later date.
This second task may be a bit overwhelming and next to impossible but worth a try.

Coming on to your point 2).
Next to impossible, is probably the right wording to use in this instance? With the majority of this information still held “Secret” one has to be ultra careful as to what information is released, otherwise the person or party releasing such information would be in direct breach of numerous International Secrecy Laws, Official Secrets Acts, or similar, many of which can result, and probably would, in serious International repercussions, and also place the life of that person or persons in jeopardy.
Let me explain a little more. Certain International Treaties (mainly The European Ones) are not actual Treaties but are “Armistice Agreements” under the guise of International Treaties. Such “Armistice Agreements” have a limited term 20 – 25 years, some with a 30 year term, which, at term end, could refer back to the actual situation prior to such “Armistice Agreements” being executed. That would, in our opinion, create war in Europe and possibly other areas of the World, which no one with any sense, wants to see, or be the cause of. Better, in these circumstances to maintain the “Status Quo” for the sake of World Peace.

Additionally, it would be totally impossible to find a party (Press, Web Site, Blogs, or similar) to publish anything because in most cases, the responsible ones would check it out first. Once establishing the “Secrecy” factor that surrounds most of this, they would run a mile, and ask you to leave their offices immediately, never to return. If the more informal but publicly dominated areas were explored, such as Private Web Sites, Blogs, you can be certain that they will be either shut down or blocked, without any delay, and the operators of such sites prosecuted on trivial false evidence, but sufficient to allow them an extra long holiday at the Nation’s expense.

The above has happened in the past, and even present day, but of course it is rarely known because it is undertaken in a certain way so that the Truth is never revealed or becomes part of any criminal or civil Court actions, much to our distaste I add, therefore any information released, whether by myself or anyone else known to us, or anyone who approaches us, must be cleared by H.E.
The reason why I state the latter is because H.E. is an Internationally Protected Person and can never be prosecuted. He is as adamant as much as anyone else that the truth must come out, but at the same time, he knows the dangers to all those persons who are involved in revealing the truth. Such disclosures must therefore have H.E.’s approval and protection behind it, at all times. No approval, then no disclosure, as it would endanger all those involved, which is not the objective at all.

With respect to your good self and your colleagues, you need to seriously consider this factor before moving forward on same. Yes, we all want the truth to come out and the World put right, and as it should be. However, the forces against this are immensely strong and powerful, and do not hesitate to remove people from the scene, where necessary.
This is an area that even Presidents of some countries, with all their security and power, will not become involved as they fear the consequences.

When any part of this subject is publicised anywhere by anyone, those people need to be absolutely 100% sure that they have their facts and figures correct, otherwise more damage can be done that what one could imagine. There are stories abound, complete with documents (most of which are fakes), which all appears to be real and people believe it. This is where the problem lies because the Truth is never believed because their minds have already been programmed with falsities. The Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia are typical of many countries where stories which contain some truth but largely full of falsities, are numerous and believed by many, to the detriment of the truth. This is where the damage is caused because the truth, or what can be revealed at any one time, is never believed by the public at large.

People who write to various Web Sites and Blogs on this very subject are generally misinformation specialists, or those who are using the public to believe what is written, with the intent of Financial Benefits by those who start this all off.

We get sick of reading all this bullshit, because some truth is there, but then it is distorted by the falsities. All very plausible and appearing to be the truth by the innocent minds, but much of it so far from the truth that it would be easier to catch a bus to the moon than rely upon what is currently, and in the past, published on this subject.

Let me introduce myself. I am a private person not connected to any group, organization or secret service of any kind who finds himself receiving information and documents from a few different sources. It is appreciated what you have commented about yourself, but unless we know you personally and you hold the relevant security level clearance, we, unfortunately, can not disclose classified information to you. In due course, over a period of time, such information will drift out, as and when H.E. The Chairman deems fit and proper.
One of the sources are Mr Sw who is one of the signatories on “our” version of G.H.A. Can I assume that the Mr Sw you refer to

is that of Mr Soewarno. If so, you may be heading in the wrong direction completely. Mr Soewarno is named by former President Soekarno as a “Secondary Holder” along with “Miss Sarinah” and others, none of whom held any power over the assets.

In fact Mr Soewarno was working closely with UBS with certificates he held following the demise of former President Soekarno, and although Mr Soewarno is now deceased, UBS are still issuing false certificates against those Soekarno Gold Certificates. The latest we have on record is one issued in 2006, signed by Marcel Ospel and Sir Peter Davies, for 100 mill USD, against a Gold Bullion Certificate.
Soewarno has always claimed he owns them, but he has no idea as to the identity of the account signatory and account holder. Soewarno was just the holder of the certificate and could do nothing with them unless he and a crooked bank got together and did things behind closed doors, which is exactly what was happening.

Unfortunately, Soewarno hasn’t got any credibility and the documents he issued have even less. None of the documents we have seen hold any genuineness about them, and none match the “Library Copies”.
I will be blunt, for which I apologise. If I am correct on this, you would be better off staying silent, unless of course you can verify the documents you hold direct with the relevant persons and the Library Copies.

You can find a copy of that at kebenaran555@gmail.com. Log in using U7P4Mwaq and find the GHA in G-mail photos + some additional information in a draftbox mail. In respect of the copy documents. This is also appreciated, but I have to say that we would need full certified copies of same, delivered to us by courier mail so that every little item can be checked. To do this from e mail copies is not possible because there are certain security marks that are highly relevant in such documents, whereby we would need to verify them against the “Library Copy”.
Having stated that, the colouring of your scanned copies does portray a copy of a security paper print, which actually scans in the brown colour and not the original colour of the document. Scanning does not eliminate the security markings which can be viewed via special equipment.

I send it to you this way since then it does not actually get “sent” = scanned between two e-mail addresses. As far as I know intel services are not yet officially allowed to pry into private peoples e-mail accounts but are free to search sent/received e-mails. Correct me if I am wrong. Also comments and perceptions regarding these documents are welcome. In respect of your methodology of sending communications. What you have implemented does work, however, the computers, or some of them, of various agencies look for unusual patterns. Dead End addresses, as you propose, are unusual patterns and would attract the agencies like bees around a honey pot. It is far safer using Airmail addressed to individuals. It may take longer, but safety and security is paramount.

I have an OK from my sources to expose what I receive so I am not bound by any confidentiality agreements or break of trust. It has to be done in as a factual and objective way possible leaving the reader to make his own conclusions. (and we do realize that they will differ widely based on preconceived ideas/ideologies) Whilst we are on the subject of communications, such communications, or release of information to the public must be 100% factual and allow very limited room for personal perceptions. The over-riding premise must always be in anyone’s mind. What they perceive about the information that surrounds the over-riding premise is not controllable, but such perceptions can be limited so that the over-riding premise is always prominent in their minds.

No one can afford to allow any misconception by anyone else. The truth is the truth and that is how it must always be. Lies are dissolved by the truth in the average persons mind once they start their own investigations and commence comparisons of information.

Having said that, I do apologize for that parts you noted as slanted and lets try and correct them. No apologies necessary.

We (as in you, me & my sources) share a desire to expose a very corrupt system now run by a very small elite for the benefit of a few and the enslavement of many. The few who highjacked a very noble plan and used it’s building blocks (UN, WB, IMF, FED etc) for power plays and world rape. Let’s focus on what we have in common (expose the system and give people a clear understanding of history) and not get derailed by what may be our differences. Yes, we certainly share a desire to expose a very corrupt system operated by a few to the detriment of the masses. I certainly like the work “Highjacked” because that is exactly what happened over decades, and it is a word we use occasionally to explain what happened, as people understand such a word quite easily.
As for total exposure, very difficult because of the “Secrecy” factor and the fact that there are far too many fake and fictitious documents floating around that subordinate the truth.
The truth can only come out in time, and upon the approval of H.E. The Chairman, as these fake and fictitious documents are gradually being remove from the world market place. In fact, since 2003 no bank other than our own Institutional Bank, can issue any certificate against any of the old Heritage Certificates, or any assets of the Collateral Accounts, whether under the name of Soekarno, Soewarno, Soenario, Marcos, Noriega, DeGaulle, Arafat, or others. Since 2003 all the old certificates, whether invalid on date or not, have been retired and are no longer valid. New Certificates have to be issued by our own Institutional Bank.

You have to understand that it is easy to perceive the OITC as being a creation of the forces behind the BoE/FED to gather up the last little threads they don’t already control. A “sheep in wolfs clothing” is one description I have heard. In the Asian experience there are many examples of noble institutions, set up and worked by noble people with great intentions that have not quite worked out as planned. UN, WB, IMF being some of them. They put a whole lot “in the communal pot” and have very little apart from abuse to show for it. I certainly like your “A sheep in Wolfs clothing” statement. Yes, on the surface that how it has been perceived by many since 1995. In reality, this is so far from the truth that one has to smile at such statements. It is a general perception based upon published facts, but an incorrect perception. If I may at this stage reiterate the fact that if the truth is to be known then it must be undertaken carefully and nothing but the truth revealed, otherwise perceptions go wild. When the truth can be verified, some perceptions disappear out of sight completely.

Trust has to be earned at this point I guess. Truth is always there. Respect is what has to be earned, and from respect develops belief whereby lies disintegrate.
Here is one line of thought..

OITC was set up in 1995. A few years before a large number of Gold certificates loans were set to run out. Running at 33 year cycles they were first lent out in 1930-35 to fund the “New Deal” in the US, re lent in 1963-68 and set to mature in 1996-2001. My guess is that the banking world was desperate to have a new M1 in place before that date or a very large number of banks would find their vaults sitting on Gold contracts that needed to be re signed. I make reference here to your “Line of Thought”. First point here is that most of these old Certificates carry a 25 year term or 30 year term only. Your 33 year term doesn’t equate. The Thirty (30) year term, being maximum under International Law. This may not be visible on the actual old certificates because dates were usually embedded into numeric codes.
One of the major uses of these certificates came in 1933 / 4 with the USA, refinancing following the great depression. In return the USA, as is always the case, issue a series of Obligation Certificates covering the amount loaned, plus Custodian Fees and Costs. This is why you have the Federal Reserve Notes, Federal Reserve Bonds, American Dream Bonds, Wells Fargo Notes / Silver and Gold Certificates, J.P.Morgan Bonds, plus many more, secreted away in the Philippines, in various designs of boxes, safes, crates, etc. Yes, if you are thinking it, it is probably correct, which are the very certificates that the America rogue agency have been stealing for many years, and which many others have attempted to use for personal gain.

The debt to the Collateral Accounts has never been repaid by America. In fact the debt is now fully collaterised by every ounce of Gold, Silver, Oil / Mineral wealth, Government Buildings / Land / Property, or other assets, titled under the US Government.

Even the Banks who either legally borrowed from the Collateral Accounts, or illegally used assets, ended up issuing Bank Debenture Stock guaranteed by the US Government. Does that ring a bell with what is currently happening and the Nationalisation / Bail Outs of Banks ….. There is always an alternative reason which is never publicly explained.

I don’t think the dates stated by you have much relevance, except of course to the long term debt factor agreed with the Collateral Accounts. However, we could both be wrong on that because the very dates you state are dates in which the Trilateral, Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission (USA, France and UK) were in charge of the Collateral Accounts when they appear to have done exactly what they wanted to do and disregarded all others, so normal circumstances / procedures were subordinated to the whims and desires of the TTTGC, as and when they required it.

So a suitable person was found early on to fill the place, educated and “groomed” by US & western interests and finally “elected by those qualified to elect” to fill the role. My guess is that the first actions of the chairman was to re sign a lot of contracts to keep the stability of the banking world intact upon his appointment. Again, please correct me if I am wrong. Re: “A suitable Person”. In fact the way in which the world portrayed this issue is incorrect. Please let me explain. It was the Royal Families of the World who nominated H.E. Dr. Ray C. Dam, not the Americans as many believe. Dr Ray C. Dam is in fact a member of a Royal Family and was the over-riding signature during the time of the TTTGC, whose purpose was to ensure that the TTTGC did not abuse the accounts? As we are all aware, Bankers and Governments are very good at finding the holes and conjuring specific actions out of thin air, so the presence of Dr. Dam did not prevent abuse. However, it did allow him to report what he saw, and knew, to the Royal Families, who decided to stop the rot and not extend the 50 year term of the TTTGC.

It was at this stage that the Royal Families of the 42 Nations decided to appoint one man as the Legal Heir, Owner, Sole Arbiter of the Collateral Accounts, much to the despise of the Americans, French and British establishments. That man was Dr. Ray C. Dam, a member of their own clan, so to speak, with which the Royal Families were very comfortable.

Unfortunately, the hatred of the Americans, French and British excelled and they ensured that they maintained control of the mechanism, which was necessary at the time based upon the US Dollar being the World’s Reserve Currency. It is that control which largely prevents proper use of the Accounts for the benefit of the world.
To give your more insight into Dr. Ray C. Dam, which is confidential, and hinges mainly upon the personal aspect of his life.

It was the French who assassinated his Parents, being the former Sovereign Monarchs of a specific country, for which he will never forget.
It was the Americans who supported the French throughout this unfortunate period of time.
The Americans took Dr Dam outside his own country and placed him under the custodianship of a US Sympathiser in another country, who treated him as a House Boy, and apparently very badly. He will never forget that episode in his life and largely blames the Americans.

When the Americans finally took him to America, having been partly conditioned by the American sympathiser family, he was educated to a specific level and then moved to the U.K.
He was being groomed to be something he didn’t want to be, and he knew it, so played along with it.
Following his education, he was sent to Germany to work and train in the Bundesbank. From there into Russia, to the Central Bank of Russia. From there back into the U.K. to the Bank of England, and then back to America, where he was employed in the Federal Reserve.

He was soon placed in charge of the Politically sensitive division and knew an awful amount about the accounts, finally to become signatory to the accounts.
The Americans believed that they had programmed him sufficiently to be able to control him, but in fact the opposite was applicable. Dr. Ray C. Dam developed a negative attitude to the Americans, French and British, and knew exactly what these Nations were up to.

Through Royal Family protocols, Dr. Dam alerted the Royal Families and provided them with evidence to support his claims.
When the Royal Family intelligence operations finally got to work and established that Dr. Dam was in fact the Hereditary Monarch of a specific country. It is at that time that things started to change.
Dr. Dam is not his real name. It is a name given to him by the Americans when he first went to America. His real name is that of the Royal Family of that specific country which many still recognise today. Neither the Americans, nor the British, will allow Dr. Dam to enter their countries, nor will they provide Visas for his children to be educated in either America or Britain. He removed himself from aligning with the French as the French still support the family of the elected King whom they elected way back decades ago.

I, and others in the OITC, have personally experienced Dr. Dam’s acrimonious attitude towards the Americans, British and French, whereby he is determined to ensure, no matter what it takes, that the Collateral Accounts, or any part thereof, are eased away from the Americans and ultimately used, as assented to by the Nations of the World (Royal Families), for the betterment of all Nations and People of the World.

What we are doing right now and what we are achieving will ultimately see this happen. However in the meantime, we have to operate strategically and slowly, otherwise it may all be destroyed by the actions of America who are as cunning as a fox and ultra devious.

Personally I do fully believe that you and your team are fully committed to pursue the aim of the goals set out in “The plan of the experts” and make this a better world for all. I applaud your efforts and commitment in hindering the “hardliners” in their pursuit of ultimate control. We all agree that if the agreements that were put in place since 1857 and forward were honored the world would be a better place.
One of the factors which Dr. Dam implemented was to stop all legal use of the Collateral Accounts by the IMF, WB, and UN. This was done on a percentage basis reduction over X years from the year 2000. Surprisingly, but not so surprising, the IMF recorded a $400 bill loss in 2006. Also surprisingly the IMF wanted to sell some gold they hold as custodians, which was also prevented, as the gold is part of the Collateral Accounts. It goes on and on, but the main factor is that results are showing Dr. Dam’s actions are taking effect. This is why I earlier state that we may be partly responsible for the Economic and Financial Crisis in the World today. America owe to the World, an awful lot more than what is being admitted, and they have no intention of paying, so in Dr. Dam’s opinion, they have to learn a very hard lesson and start to live within their means, irrespective of the negative effects..

People ask why don’t we help America out and let them use assets to balance themselves up, thus bringing stability to the world. Well, the real truth is that it has been attempted before, back in Roosevelt’s time, and following the great depression. America never learned its lesson then as they still went on spending as if they owed nothing to anyone. They have carried on like that ever since with an acceleration of their internal financial and economic policies since the 70’s.

In Dr. Dam’s words, quote “We do not finance any country that uses such finance to go out into the world and attempt to control it, dictating and enforcing their ideologies, by whatever means they desire, whether financial warfare, military warfare, or otherwise. Neither do we finance crooks and thieves”.

I also do hope the “new financial system” you are working on does not include a cashless society model were every economic transaction will have to go through a bank since it should be more about empowering people and less about controlling them. In my mind a “year of the Jubilee” is in order were people and Nations are set free from the bondage of debt. This last thought is very much my own and does not represent any others. Reference to the new Financial System we have developed. I can assure you that this is not a cashless society, nor is it based on fiat money.

It is an Asset backed International Monetary Unit, which automatically, by association, backs the currencies of every other country in the World. The asset backing is provided by the Collateral Accounts.
If we take the total world GNP, it is in the region of $55 trillion USD (If my memory is correct on this, if not please correct me). This means that the accounts will need to provide $55 trillion in assets (Gold, Silver, Platinum, etc) based upon a Gold Price standard. However, there is far more to this than just a new System and new International Monetary Unit. Control, Administration, Regulation, is also a very big part of the new system, whereby maximum leverage will be x 10. Anything above that will be criminally illegal. Banking and Corporate Laws need to be amended. Gone will be the IMF and WB, plus the International Development Banks. Introduced will be a full international representation through several Regional committees and one International Committee, removing the need for the G7 and G20 etc, who are all politically motivated.

The whole new system will be run by each and every country of the world, through the International Treasury Control. Politics and Foreign Policy will not enter into the Financial and Economic fundamentals of the World anymore.

On that point I will say no more because we are still working on the intricacies of the system, whereby we do not wish to release information until we are ready to do so, otherwise those in power will claim it shows weaknesses which can not be tolerated within any new system, just to protect their old dilapidated system which can no longer work, and which is so far past its “Sell By” date, that it is no longer fit for human consumption.

What I hope you can do is read and comment on the presentation page by page.
For example, Page 1. Don’t agree with.. Do agree with $B!D (B Added detailed info. Not really possible because of the way the content is presented along with the many questions and nuances.
For instance detailed info on how at various stages the “bad” elements tried early on to highjack the system or more details and meat on the bone regarding how the “banking/Rothshield” side has played out their agenda over time would be helpful. We do agree 100% with your comments, that if agreements, treaties, conventions, etc since 1850 onwards, had been allowed to operate and function correctly over the years, the world would not be in such a predicament as it is now, nor would much of what has happened negatively in the world over the 150 years, would have happened at all. The world as it should be, never will be until the people who constantly desire and propagate civil unrest, and believe they can steal or use these assets freely for their own purpose: are removed from their positions and brought to justice with long term incarceration. If the public have a choice, I personally see court cases and incarceration being bottom of the list, with “Hang them first and ask questions later” taking the number 1 slot.
The problem is with those who have manipulated the whole system and interpreted such agreements, treaties, conventions, etc. in a way that benefits them only, and forcing other countries to apply and be subservient to.

Coming on to the “Bad” Elements. This actually goes back hundreds of years, and one can quote the “Crusade Wars” in the Middle East. The Jews, Catholics, Christians, Knights Templar, Knights of Malta, etc, etc, etc.
The target, as with most other wars is the wealth of the countries involved. King Solomon’s treasures, The Aztec Treasure, The Inca Treasures, The Egyptian Treasures, and so on, are all part of the Collateral Accounts.

Knights Templar, still claim to this very day, title to these treasures, as does the Knights of Malta, the Christians, and the Catholics. They all do their utmost to steal back what they believe are rightfully theirs as “War Booty” generally, even though indirectly, they executed the very Treaties, agreements, conventions, designating all such treasures to the accounts to benefit the world and its people.
It was in the mid to late 1800’s that the Jews, who controlled the European Banking industry started to flex their muscles, which became far more evident in 1907, following the financial turmoil in America, and the 1910 with the Jekyll Island Treaty. It was these persons, all Jewish Bankers, that structured the Jekyll Island Treaty, which was their first visible attempt to hijack the Collateral Accounts (as they are now known) and bring them under the control of the Banking fraternity.

This was quickly recognised by the Royal Families of the world, whereby Emperor Hirohito of Japan designed a scheme which would isolate the Collateral Accounts from the grasp of the Banking fraternity. This was assented to by the Royal Families under the 1920 London Treaty.

I will not go into the actual structuring as it will divulge the mechanisms to be applied to access the Collateral Accounts, which are very complex, whereby no one person involved within the operation of the Collateral Accounts, knew any other one person, who were all scattered throughout the world, as indeed the assets were.
From 1920 onwards, even during the years of WW II, the assets were secreted away in numerous countries under the terms and conditions of the 1920 Treaty, which included assets sent to Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, etc, etc, etc. No one country was allowed to hold assets that it may have had a claim to at any time, e.g. Assets in Indonesia are not, and never have been assets of the Indonesian Country. The same principle applies with the Philippines, America, United Kingdom, Russia, etc, etc, etc.

It was in 1944/5 with the Bretton Woods Treaty, again made up of mainly Jewish Bankers, structured everything which would allow a final hijack in due course. The United Kingdom whose currency was at that time the Reserve Currency of the World, which was also the heart of the Jewish Banking Fraternity (Rothschild), had removed the Gold Standard years prior to 1944/5.

Within the Bretton Woods Treaty, the British Pound was to be removed and substituted by the US Dollar. Within a “Side Agreement” to the Bretton Woods Treaty the Collateral Accounts were to be operated, Administered, and Controlled by the TTTGC (America, U.K. France) as the Allied Powers, but also because the US Dollar was the International Reserve Currency and therefore operated out of NYC and DC. via the Federal Reserve and US Government.

Shortly after the Federal Reserve System was introduced. This is legally a separate entity to the Federal Reserve, and introduced into various countries in Europe as well as America. It was this Federal Reserve System that was to partly utilise the Assets of the Collateral Accounts.

This is where everything started to go wrong, but not recognised at the time. The fact that power and control rested entirely in the hands of America, the Federal Reserve System, and supported by the Allied Powers.
Also involved in the Collateral Accounts was the “War Booty” from several countries, which was to be used within the reparations between countries following the war. Any balances were to remain with the Collateral Accounts.

Now you should be able to see how the Allied Powers, lead by America, started to control the world.

As time went on, America borrowed more and more money from the Collateral Accounts, never having any intention of paying it back. At the same time, the under-pinning of the USD by the Collateral Accounts was diminishing. This was supposed to be a 10:1 ratio (10 USD to 1 USD value of Collateral Account Assets) It was in 1963 that President Kennedy attempted to put right the wrongs of the past and bring the ratio back to what it should be. This is when the Green Hilton Agreement came into effect. Its purpose was to allow more dollars to be printed under the 10:1 ratio rule, to increase World Trade and World monetary supply.

Needless to say, we all know what happened in Now 1963. The Green Hilton Treaty was never recognised by America, and never has been to this day. Various fakes of the GHT (or Agreement as known by many) began to emerge. So no one really knows which the real one is. A deliberate attempt to confuse people and deny legally, etc.

We then go through to August 1971 when Nixon removed (abolished) the Gold Standard, Fiat currencies were effectively born and every country in the world were compelled to follow suit. All of this under the banner of “Monetarism”, later to be referred to as “Global Economy”, “Free Trade”. At this juncture one must look at the various advisors around Nixon at the time. Many were of one specific religion and well connected to the Banking Fraternity of America and the UK.

Gradually, over the years since 1971, regulation has been eased, under the pretence of enhancing International Trade and Competitiveness. How people were fooled, and still are fooled.
During all this time 1944/5 – 1995, and even to present date, the TTTGC totally abused the Collateral Accounts in their own favour, but also abused the Accounts in a Monetary Warfare philosophy throughout the World, bringing down democratically elected Governments in favour of their own people. Currency raids to enhance their foreign policy, and so forth.
The Royal Families of the World, together with some Nations who were not aligned to the Allied Powers, realised what was happening but could do nothing as the TTTGC Gold Commission was effectively written in stone. At the same time the Royal Families of the World did not desire to create another serious conflict in the World, so they waited until 1994, when they unanimously agreed not to extend the 50 year term of the TTTGC, but to recover their power over the Collateral Accounts, and remove all traces of dominance by the Allied Powers, more so America.
Hence the 1995 appointment of H.E. Dr. Ray C. Dam.

Various Indonesians (Filipinos are the same) attempted to claim the assets held in their country, even to the extent of lobbying the US Government heavily, and on many occasions All without success, and a few ending up incarcerated for many years.

It was in late 2001, that several top people in Indonesia approached Dr. Ray C. Dam, regarding the assets. Apparently they were shown absolute proof of ownership under the Collateral Accounts, and even accessed the accounts to Screen Print all Account Details.

Recognising the Truth, they acknowledged the various Treaties, documents, information etc. but then referred to “Heritage Rights (Custodian Fees)” over the assets held within Indonesia. This led to the 2003 Bangkok Treaty (recognising the Rights), which is legal and effective, and will be honoured.

However, America has illegally applied a lien on the assets in Indonesia and several other countries, to prevent their use by others, and thus preventing custodian fees from being claimed, paid, or payable.
This lien is where the problem arises today with the enormous debt accumulated by the American and British Banks, as well as Governments. To date we have a figure in excess of $3.35 Quadrillion USD, debt factor, made up of illegal use of the assets by the banks and governments, which are supposed to be the collateral behind all these derivatives. To give an example, J.P.Morgan are in for hundreds of Trillions of Debt when they illegally used Gold Assets held at the Bank under Custodianship Rules, to produce “Over the Counter” Gold Derivatives, sold through “Off Shore” domiciled corporations. Citibank are in for approximately $700 billion USD of Debt for their illegal use of the Assets.

All this debt is guaranteed by the US under the various treaties since 1944/5, which is something they cannot eliminate or extinguish. The debt must be paid,. Alternatively, we are using the assets irrespective of any illegally applied Lien, leaving America to sort out their self generated problem, as we do not, neither does any treaty, recognise illegal liens.
It is taking us vast amounts of time to sort all this out. We are also taking other actions that I cannot disclose at this moment in time, other than to say changes have been implemented and are still being implemented, and will continue to be implemented until the Collateral Accounts are fully under control and being used as per their original purpose, for the benefit of ALL Nations of the World and the people of the World.

I do not desire to focus on the Rothschild factor too much as they are just part of the problem, along with the Rockefellers’, Kissinger, and many more. The problem itself was compounded by various other parties, such as Governments, Foreign Policies, Monetary Warfare, and the like. Thaksin Shinawatra is another good example. He is not a Jew, but he is a puppet of the Bushes. Stealing assets held in Thailand and Cambodia. Warned 3 times and told to stop and replace everything which was missing. He didn’t and on the Third occasion it was manipulated to depose him and bring charges for menial crimes to prevent exposure of the assets and Collateral Accounts. He is now a fugitive on the run and dare not return to Thailand. His Wife, an accomplice, has a 5 year jail term against her, which she is appealing against.
There are others, whereas the routing has started and will continue, until everything is finally sorted out and the accounts brought back under proper control and used as intended.

Also if actual figures are off such as 7.5 million metric tones (11 is also a number that has been mentioned) and you are not in a position to divulge the correct ones maybe such specifics are best kept out of the presentation? In respect of the actual MT volume of Gold held within the Collateral Accounts. You are low with your figures and you should be working on an absolute minimum of 20 million MT of Gold alone. In addition, you have thousands of tonnes of Platinum, Silver, Thousands of boxes of precious gems, plus Sovereign Certificates which are collateralised by other mineral wealth such as Oil, Copper, Bauxite, Uranium, Nickel Babbit, Ancient Treasures, Works of Art, Sovereign Monarch Treasures, etc, etc, etc.

The wealth is enormous. Far more than anyone would believe, and at least 100 quinrillion USD more than what is required to put the world to right.

We understand it is a very “dangerous & murky” world out there. This side is very traumatized. Last time they stuck their necks out and came to the bank with all the necessary documents and signatories was back in 1984. An Asian group showed up at UBS with all the right papers including “The 3 roses” box. That lead to Robert Palmer (I believe it was) issuing an order for 7 T to be transferred from the FED to Europe within 24 hours. That transfer order was picked up by CIA hardliners who sent a hit squad to eliminate the people and confiscate all the documents. That CIA order was again picked up by MI5 who responded by sending their “Zulu” group to protect them. The CIA group had support from 7 of the Swiss Kantons so the rescue was a mayor undertaking. Supposedly 20 people died but the key people and documents were sent back to Asia secure. You should be able verify some of this. A mayor gunfight in and around UBS headquarters should be hard to cover up completely I would think? “Dangerous and murky World out there” is an understatement if I may respectfully say so. So dangerous that even the banks have their own assassination squads, and these people would go to all lengths to stop the world gaining from the benefits of the Collateral Accounts.

The rest of your statement here sounds about right. Move to far and too fast without all pieces being in place, and you will end up dead, without any question. Hence why I previously have stated that you ought to be fully aware of what you are doing especially if you are not part of the operation and carry no protectorate or immunity, as you will end up dead. I have no doubt in my mind that you are probably being watched right now and monitored. Get too close and you will have serious problems which we can not assist you with. Others have tried it before, only to be eliminated or incarcerated on trumped up charges.

I will try and verify what you have stated here, when I next meet with H.E. Dr. Ray C. Dam, However, it was before his appointment as International Treasury Controller, so he may not have all the information although it will be recorded, Whether he desires to dig up old bones, so to speak is another matter. Sometimes it is best to let sleeping dogs lie.
As for Robert Palmer, definitely rogue See Eye Aye. He has been at it for years, including attempting to illegal use assets from the China Foundation, and the Mae Hua Trust. Keep your distance from this man because he has accomplices, one of whom we know of very well, who is a mentally deranged person who was removed from the legal part of See Eye Aye for illegally assassinating 6 persons without permission. He was immediately recruited to the rogue element of the See Eye Aye. There are many more, most of whom you would not recognise or know if you passed them in the street. At the same time, you don’t really want to know these people. Better to make friends with a crocodile.

One of the side effects of this 1984 drama was that Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines lost his grip on power. Up to that point, the banking world had guessed/assumed that he was 3/3/3 or “the man with no name”. A signatory for hundreds of key accounts. In fact the person who showed up was his cousin. They shared the same grandfather who was the Chinese Royal active with PB X in the 1920’s recall of funds. Their bloodline goes all the way back to Djengis Kahn. Also a great collector of huge amounts of Gold. Re: Ferdinand Marcos. No he was not the signatory to many accounts as stated. He was the senior Custodian on behalf of the Republic of the Philippines (The same factor applies to the so-called Soekarno Assets). The real Signatory, who Imelda is still attempting to use is known to us. This person is (was) signatory to 849 accounts held in 368 banks throughout the world. In fact I stated this person IS the signatory. No, not anymore. The name has been removed ever since they attempted to access the Japanese accounts using the Yakusa.

These people do not know who I am, but I worked undercover with them for approximately 2 years. I even had the signatory held safely in a safe house in Bangkok, but then through a Filipino Priest, the person succumbed to a massive payment by Imelda and returned unexpectedly to the Philippines. It was then that the signatory was removed completely from anything to do with the accounts. I am aware that the signatory died approximately 1 year ago in a freak accident.

We are aware of the Chinese Royal Family connection of Marcos, and yes it does go back to Genghis Khan, as well as Mao Si Dong.
This connection really means nothing as Marcos did not get his position through the Royal connection. He was in fact See Eye Aye and Lawyer to St. Romano (See Eye Aye and Vatican Ambassador), connected to General McArthur and General Lansdale.

What people who were present at both the signing of G.H.A & the 1984 debacle will tell you is that Soekarno was not always Soekarno. Other people also signed using his name. Verification of correct signatory ID is done using blood DNA. We also appreciate the fact that Soekarno was not always Soekarno, and his signature was not always that, or one of the four known and recognised signatures on record. You are absolutely correct when you state that verification is by DNA. This is common with all World Leaders, and certainly common within the Royal Families and the upper echelons of World Society.
We are aware that DNA is verified with Blood, Hair and Skin or Bone sample. All three have to match otherwise no one takes a blind bit of notice. Library copies of ALL Agreements / Treaties, Conventions, etc are also kept on record, so fakes are easily recognised., even if the fakes use security paper, some of which was left in the Philippines many years ago and which the Filipinos have been using, illegally of course.

Coming back to Marcos. There was only one other person on record to succeed Marcos. Again DNA samples were taken. No other person in the Philippines or anywhere else in the world should have possession of any certificates, etc other than Marcos or the known successor. Many have tried and many have ended up dead or incarcerated. On the World Gold Council Blacklist many are Filipinos, which is not at all surprising. Even that successor has relinquished the post, whereby the assets in the Philippines are now under Custodianship of a person who is not Filipino and not resident in the Philippines.
There is a lot of ground to cover. For technical things not suitable for the public domain please suggest an alternative way of communicating. But first, let’s do our best to try and get the historical aspect of this as correct as possible and out into the hands of the public. The safest method is AIR MAIL, or recorded / registered AIR MAIL Email, no matter if it is encrypted or not, is not 100% safe and secure.
In the hope of getting an in debt response and lots of future constructive communication going, Yes, but we really need to know you and your colleagues before we go too far, and I need to consult with Dr. Dam on these matters, as he is the one with the knowledge and access. To give you information which is not based on fact, or official record, is not my way of doing things, nor is it the way of the Dr. Dam or the OITC. Some fact can never be released, some, not so secret fact, has already been released. The problem I have is that I am now retired, and although I assist Dr Dam when it is needed I can not be available all of the time, especially at this moment in time as I have to go into hospital for a major operation, but I will attempt to be active from the hospital bed.
Best Regards, M
P.s I have found all your postings on Fourwinds a very interesting read. I am not sure I have all of them though. Can you please send me a copy of all the postings together with any other material you have written and made public elsewhere? It certainly helps to get the fuller picture. Thanks. D.s
These will need to be sorted as there are a great many of them, some of which are irrelevant, some are of a personal nature to other respondents, some have just been communications with no publication of same.

I will attend to this in due course, but for the moment this is something I can not attend to yet
Referring now to your attachment. Your list here is only partly correct. There are an awful lot more assets, hereditary lines, origins, National Wealth, etc, within the Collateral Accounts that what you have listed. You certainly have a reasonable historical background, indicated by your definitions, which I find a little unusual considering you claim you are an ordinary person. Perhaps you would care to explain how you have such knowledge, when others who are actively involved do not have the same knowledge.
I apologise for being so direct here, but we do get “Spoof” communications from all sorts of intel agents, all trying to discredit the real information, who then post their manipulated and disinformation articles (complete with a degree of fact) to Blogs and various web sites. We therefore are very careful, whereby we do now insist that full names and addresses are revealed, which we check out before responding. We will no longer respond to anonymous or pseudonym communications.
Yours faithfully

anonymous
anonymous

The History of Banking
and where did King Solomon’s treasure go

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/history_banking.pdf

Pieter de Waard
Pieter de Waard

What is wrong with this California missile story? It was even on the main Dutch television news: “Both navy and air force say they know nothing about this. The army emphasized that the US has not been in any danger.” (for the Dutch on this forum: page 136 of teletekst, http://teletekst.nos.nl/?100-01 ) What is wrong with this picture? If they know nothing about it, how can they be so sure that there has been no danger? It happened on the famous 11/9 date mentioned by Fulford. Was it a final desperate attempt to invoke a nuclear explosion on this date, as suggested by Darylluke? In that case the promise that no nuclear explosion will be allowed anymore is confirmed again.

Well, we survived this date. Another one (11/11) to come.

greetings, Pieter

dingiem
dingiem

I think zerohedge has the answer to the missile story : http://www.zerohedge.com/article/missile-hoax-x-planation

dingiem
dingiem

About too lengthy articles, I agree they are quite irritating. Instead of voting I offer the idea to limit the amount of words/letters of any comment by the website engine itself. This way we don’t have to actively pursue voting and leave it to the software. Should be fairly easy 🙂

travelman
travelman

Dear anonymous –

Quite the history but this is editorialized throughout many publication in the world. In fact, this is required reading in my classes. Let’s take a look at ONE big item that have forgotten to ramble about. As an educated person in these matters, I want you to tell me about the spiritual aspects of the Phillipines and the Filipino people. Tell me about the control groups, the specific demonic system that generated the funds and the demonic system that maintains the funds. Tell me about the methods used to generate the funds … i.e what did Marcos, Morales, Soekarno and Soewarno have in common. Tell us about the ‘man-in-the-mountain’ and the ‘Judge’. Tell me about the Star of David and the Bank that God and Lucifer meet at. Tell me about the other banks and their role in God’s financial system throughout the world.

Dam is really nothing in the world except another waanabe as he thinks he has cracked the financial systems of the world and has the demonic key that will unlock the treasures of the earth (King Solomon) but yet still Dam claims a lot but does not have the capacity to perform on a single promise. How can that be?

The information you have is very nice and can be gotten out of any book very easily … without anonymous sources that need to be checked and verified.

In short, you can do all of the hocus pocus but you can’t beat God as all of the treasures of the earth are still claimed by him.

Please tell me/us how all of this plays into your research.

TMAN

getem
getem

Hi All

The missile off the California coast was also on our TV news here in Australia tonight. There seems to be a lot of people, including the military themselves, who claim they know nothing about this missile, where it came from, who fired it or what it’s intended target was and no word of any damage it may have caused. Very strange indeed.

Re David Wilcock. I also like David and value what he has to say very highly.

XL, welcome and thanks for your perspective from one who has lived through this BS and is trying to make some sort of sense of it all. Not easy! Hopefully we will see the PTW scurrying en mass for the last remaining rocks to hide beneath in the very near future!

It would be an interesting exercise if all the military people, and others who were in similar positions, put the knowledge they have together and built a picture, then surely the PTW would be toast!

anonymous
anonymous

Could that mystery missile be just another contrail?
http://uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/

anonymous
anonymous

Dear travelman
I am to simple-minded to aspire to do any real research.
I merely post stuff which catches my interest.
So sorry to disappoint you.

Love and blessings to all

travelman
travelman

Dear anonymous –

I apologize to you … the beginning did say that. I extend to you my hand.

Well, obviously this is an specific area of expertise of mine. The people of the world would have a difficult time with it but the leaders of the Black Cabal understand it very well. This is one the inherent problems of the world today … a tremendous huge power struggle within the natural world over control of the spiritual world. I know that a lot to swallow but it is true none this less. The time tested problem of man wanting control of everything and cutting a deal with the devil.

When a certain man decided that he was a far more powerful person that everyone else and could utilize the spiritual for his own devices, then we have gone down the path of hell.

Ok, don’t start waving crystals over my head and chanting in unison … this is God’s world and the legendary battle rages.

Unfortunately, you can’t print this stuff … you just have to battle it.

TMAN

myra
myra

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm

Morning Cafe’: I know some here do not care for their reports, but this one makes sense considering the higher ups “have no idea what happened” or its a “contrail”. If THEY say they don’t know – then the end result is THEY do know. Peace all!

paladin
paladin

TMan,

Holy Philippine gold, Batman!!!!

Synchonisity is a wonderful thing isn’t it? Just when I thought I was going to have to prompt you to tell the “Story of P”, an anonymous poster comes in and tees it up for you.

Doesn’t get any better than that.

camelot
camelot

Dear Travelman / TMAN
Could you please share with use your thoughts / opinions of Smedley Butler and his discourse on “War is a Racket”. Thank you for your choices in life. I am grateful.
Camelot

asha4u
asha4u

Dear Paladin
Regarding Troll and “feed the Troll”: Lew allready did the fine job of referring to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Regarding the provocation by T-men in this forum I neither felt the need nor the right to set the things straight for HIM. Who am I to break up the beLIEve system (as perverse/upside down they are for me and probably 4 the majority here) of a noble character he is/has without any doubt.

U might or not might be aware of that the thesis of the USofA as a great nation became (lets put it very gently) wishful thinking for uneducated minions and a huge propaganda lie for to keep the brainwashed in line, repeated over and over again in the presstitute media, the kindergartens, the schools, U name it.

There is no other known country in the ‘first’ world he’s referring to with a less poor and less educated majority. Remember: this former great nation which was build upon the blood of millions of murdered natives and millions on slaves brought to this country by the same tribe who now is destroying it.

There are no other known country’s on this planet except US-RAEL, where puppets on behalf their puppeteers by means of threatening, hoax, war, terror, openly and secretly, try to get their way and therefor being responsible for more that 50 conflicts/wars after WWII with death and destructions unknown before within known history of this planet.

There is no other known country on this planet where so many children disappear each year being misused and killed in horrific secret rituals and experiences.

There is no other known country’s on this planet except US where whistleblowers/scientist/journalists get ridiculed/silenced/tortured and being killed as soon as they dare to speak out.

There is no other known country on this planet except the US who has soldiers/lackeys stationed in more that 150 foreign countries’s to make sure their government will dance to the pipe of the masters.

There is no other known country on this planet except the US who had used and still are using their soldiers as guinea pigs, vaccinated them to death, extradited them to depleted uranium and other deadly radiation and then treated their veterans like shit when they came home after having experienced unimaginable horrible situations/crimes they had been exposed/misguided to…

I could fill up this list of atrocities, crimes, plunder and mass murder ad nauseum which was ordered by the puppeteers who never left their desk at the Travistock Institute or elsewhere using brave soldiers like T-man in the name of ‘Freedom’ by the US (and Christians on a larger scale), but I think U get the picture.

Brainwashed-to-the-bones-guys like him might never be able to destroy the web of lies in front of their eyes they had been induced to and therefore are neither to be blamed for their beLIEve system or that he still is proud of ‘his great nation’. And it’s his free will to give his life for this former great nation if asked for by the criminal leaders…

But I take the right to explain my personal reaction to this kind of provocation he came in with his loud and self-centered voice and let others here know what I was thinking about and how I felt.

Do I have bad feeling about Americans/British soldiers who bombed and therefore burned alive half a million refugees in just one night in Dresden with their phosphor bombs or what was done to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Of course not, they just did what they was told to do.

Am I angry about Russians about the fact that Russians soldiers had been raping more than 2 Million German woman after WWII ended? The heck no, they just did what they had been brainwashed to (mainly by a Bolshevik Jew) the months before… Therefor no need to spit in anyone’s face, no matter, which race, gender, color, nationality, religion or beLIEf system he/she thinks belonging to.

As the majority here knows it was and still is as small hidden group of soulless beings who wants to control humanity by all means and to keep us off of awakening to who we really are and what power we really do have. So it’s to each one of us who share knowledge different of what MSM is propagating to find his/her own way of being either part of the problem, part of the solution or part of the game at all…

Finally: Do I think I’m any better than t-man? Hell no! I wished I had at least a part of his braveness, his integrity and honesty he showed us between his lines and could walk my talk with equal stableness as he seem to do. But by honoring the path my Higher self has guided me to and have had collected different experiences I take my right to comment anomalies here as well as balanced wisdom, interesting news and colorful new insights. Always avoiding to tell anyone what and how to do except when being asked (if at all) but will always call it by name regardless of expectations or political correctness, or any other rules invented mainly to keep us in line.
Ho