Are we dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence?

Since the war over the new financial system has been in limbo over the holidays this week we will examine the possibility we are actually dealing with a rogue artificial intelligence. Two separate individuals claiming to represent a group called Majestic 12 (but who do not know each other) have made this claim. Already, in some countries, only 3% of the money in circulation is in physical, analogue cash form; the rest is digital. That means many humans are already dependent on powerful financial computer systems for their physical needs. Are these computer systems becoming self-aware? There are also increasing reports of “people” on sites such as Facebook who, after much dialogue, appear not to be actually human but are instead sophisticated computer programs. Are we witnessing the birth of silicon based life?

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siyem

Hore…. Is my day!

stella

What kindergarden plot do I miss here?

niteroi

What the hell is Ben writing about? I did not know this was also a science fiction website!

munchkin

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bcsolanki

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suijuris

nth – tnx Ben

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nai2010

Dear Everybody,

Try visiting this website: http://www.secondship.com/ and reading his interviews. The author talks about a new form of AI developed from the captured UFO craft. The book, DAEMON, can also shed light into the capability of software these days.

Richard Phillips, the second ship author, said that a new form of database for data mining combined with a form of AI copied from alien programs has utterly changed the way that the intelligence services view data mining.

Finally, read about CARET and ISSAC to learn more about things that have been copied.

NAI2010

nai2010

Dear Ben,

The answer to your questions is in Morgellon’s. There is a conscious effort to turn everybody into a living transceiver. Transceivers both send and receive signals. When I first read what was happening to Morgies with the fibres growing up their spinal columns, the change in their consciousness etc. as well as the composition of these fibres, I knew that they were being “rewired.”

Many of those involved in the cabal as minions have taken an injection that genetically alters them. Not only does it infect them with something like the Morgellon’s (which is in the chemtrails, btw, everybody), it alters their DNA to make them HIVE-MINDED. They literally have a buzz of people in their heads at all times.

The same thing is true of the Indigo children. They are in constant communications with others around the world via an unseen network.

NAI2010

ddnix

The AI theme has been commonly alluded to in sci-fi movies such as Terminator and Alien and with an entity with no remorse or delusions of morality, just a cold calculating logic so it does not surprise that AI is alive and well in the blogosphere and perhaps in control. Perhaps it is time to disconnect from this electronic world and return to what is natural. I suspect we as a species have been here several times in the past (making prophecy accurate since it is a rerun)and have blown ourselves back to the stone age and began again. There is evidence of advanced tech many thousands of years old and this knowledge is suppressed.

myra

SciFi Channel here! Awesome! Just like “I Robot”. Thanks Ben!

Back to the birds/fish:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread646870/pg3

Great thread(s) & this on page 3:
http://theintelhub.com/2010/12/14/hundreds-of-earthquakes-swarm-arkansas-residents-blame-natural-gas-drilling-process/

“I had some squash, I turned my sprinkler system on, it killed every one of them that night,” said one concerned farmer.”

metaphy

AI relies on electrical current, which, should the poles reverse as they most probably will eventually, one theory says that all electronic systems in place will be rendered useless, hard drives destroyed etc.

I look forward to this little refresher should it happen!

Free energy technology will be released no doubt sooner or later but back EMF works in a completely opposite way from the forced voltages we currently rely on, hence all current systems in that respect will be nul and void.

BEN :::: there is active technology that can plant thoughts into your head. You can literally “hear” as you would your own monologue (thoughts) what someone is saying and intentionally transmitting. They cover an area which can be pin point on your head or maybe your house or even town.
BE MORE SUSPICIOUS. the formulea are just to prove it to you being a man of logic, but please research and wise up to their capabilities.

There is no doubt – you are very influential and they would love to get in your head!

With regards to “”AI’s that exist somehow in the electro-magnetic part of the universe”” – surely they would not be AI if this were the case?

my understanding of life on other planes (gained from studying regressional hypnosis sessions, Dolores Canon etc.) tells us that our spirits or souls exist on different planes, and travel to others upon leaving the spinal cortex which houses it in this realm (our body suit as it were).

If you buy into this stuff of course… and i always think it’s best to have an open mind and not get drawn into anything too much. keep the idea that it could all be bollocks until REALLY proven otherwise.

“BELIEVE NOTHING OF WHAT YOU HEAR, AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE”
even in your own head nowadays – nice.
what a double-edged sword this technology is.
without being defeatist – this is the ultimate infringement on freedom.
Almost enough to get the colander on the head ! (or would that work as an antennae?)

We have all seen 2001 a space oddysey – it all seems very possible, but realistically I think a computer can never exceed the limitations set by human minds. But if the human minds set no limitation then who knows what could happen.

peace for now i’m at work
🙂

have a lovely day !

acerzw

Wow will have to think about this…

mdreinke

That’s easy … just use a little BST on the bad dudes. I think you can buy it at Walmart next to Turbo Tax and then sit back smoke a big fatty.

http://www.wingmakers.com/blankslatetechnology.html

🙂

spaghettid

Welcome to the Chaotic Node……..

nai2010

Dear BFCers,

It is too great a coincidence that this same theme is in the Terminator series of movies (from a self-avowed Nazi) and other science fiction. It stinks of a planned concept to me.

The closer that we get to the necessary revelations about what is going on…i.e. the “return of the ancestors,” the more frantic that the PTW will become.

I saw something yesterday that was very interesting. I do not know if what this person is saying is the truth or even if he is what he says that he is…but the vocalizations do sound like the descriptions of the “lizards” speak.

I have to run right now, but I will be back later to chat with everybody.

NAI2010

Larry

Wonder what kink of a self a self aware AI system would be aware of? Might not be a bad idea – hard to get much worse than the group of sleepers currently bouncing randomly about.

myfreaky

For those that are into this topic, check out Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It is vastly more complex and thought provoking than the movies (although I am a huge fan of the movies and comic books). It is a shame that the show was cancelled after only two seasons, most likely because most mind-numb TV zombies couldn’t understand it.

The “new” Battlestar Galactica series that aired a couple years ago on the Sci-Fi Network was another ground breaking series dealing with AI issues. Simply phenomenal if you are interested in learning more about the theme.

Also, check out the series Dollhouse. A very scary look at the possibilities of mixing technology with the human mind. Dollhouse is perhaps the best show to air on mainstream network TV in recent memory.

I strongly urge you all to check out these shows if you haven’t already! Mind blowing stuff!

I for one, appreciate Ben’s stray post on AI. If it isn’t real yet, it is just around the corner. Way to go Ben! Killer post.

Gus

What a week!

First Charles confirms the existence of the committee of 33. Now Ben tells us they’re not men but rather a rogue artificial intelligence. The alien agenda must be failing if TPTB are seriously floating this trial balloon.

If some part of the BF membership is software, couldn’t the AI at least have added a grammar and spell checker into the system? That would make it so much easier for the human component here to read the information being shared.

If there is a burgeoning intelligence coming into being it is us — the awake and aware using the internet as a means of sharing our ideas, fears, dreams, thoughts, aspirations, plans and theories. I wouldn’t call us a “hive” mind but a “live” mind that is growing in strength at an exponential pace.

We collectively are the new AI. We’re artificial only in as much as we communicate via artificial means. To stop a rogue machine, it has been tradition to “throw a wrench” into the works. How do you stop a rogue intelligence that’s mucking up your plans — you confuse it with so much conflicting information that it goes into a recursive loop, the computer equivalent of a dog chasing it’s own tail.

Today’s post if taken too seriously is likely to keep us in fruitless loop for a couple of days.

So I’m taking the rest of the day off for a software upgrade. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

mahavatar

The Dali Lama said computers have a consciousness.

wovolve42

Gus- yes, it would be good if the AI could at the very least make sure that spelling and grammar are posted properlu….LOL – Very interesting post this week – If you look back at Kerry Cassidy’s post regarding Bill Ryans’ interview, she also commented that Charles was some form of AI –

Okay, here’s an interesting clip:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192028

Another Missile Launch Seen Off Texas Coast 1-2-2011 -vid

On New Years day, two F16 fighter jets flew over central Phoenix, really, really low…..and then on Monday of this week, some more flew over really low and were in the sky for atleast an hour – something is going on, there is some kind of battle secrety being fought on US soil right now-

acerzw

I do believe the subject of AI etc and the content of Bens post is highly relevant, but it will take me several hours before I can get my thoughts down concisely and post them. Otherwise I could write a whole book on the phenomenon Ben has described.

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192011

Computers That See You and Keep Watch Over You

This article references AI that is being used in prisons to alert prison guards of possible riots

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192007

Thousands of Birds Found Dead in Manitoba

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192003

A LIST of STATES and COUNTRIES that have FALLING BIRDS and DEAD FISH in 2011

wovolve42

http://www.thebigwobble.com/2011/01/world-wide-dead-birds-fish-and-other.html?spref=tw

This link has a list of all the places with birds and fish dying, and shows a map

jpspfulfordnews
jpspfulfordnews

Artificial is artificial. Of course there is “AI” but this was created by man. That it could be “self-aware” is no-where in the context Life is not derived from a pile of mud. Evolution, the implementation and gradual development toward a purpose and goal is not a separate set of events independent of that which is the spirit in and of man. It is the driving and directing factor of Life.

Mr. Fulford, you are a savvy financial analyst and reporter and it appears you have an “in” with powerful and influential people and/or groups. Your reports have exposed the background stuff of “spy vs spy”, faction vs faction, and intriguing, opening up the way they do the machinations behind the scenes but please, stop with the “man from mud” stuff. Computer AI is fun to watch in movies, etc. – it can be quite entertaining, but that software or hardware in any combination runs on anything other than ones and zeros or has any soul/spiritual substance is folly… outside of a spiritual being taking control of it, which is more than possible.

Gus

Is The New Madrid Fault Earthquake Zone Coming To Life?

My personal software update from the Borg-ermeister is complete so here’s a bit more on the New Madrid fault.

Quote:
“What in the world is happening in the middle of the United States right now? Thousands of birds are falling dead from the skies, tens of thousands of fish are washing up on shore dead, earthquakes are popping up in weird and unexpected places and people are starting to get really freaked out about all of this. Well, one theory is that the New Madrid fault zone is coming to life. The New Madrid fault zone is six times bigger than the San Andreas fault zone in California and it covers portions of Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee and Mississippi. The biggest earthquakes in the history of the United States were caused by the New Madrid fault. Now there are fears that the New Madrid fault zone could be coming to life again, and if a ‘killer earthquake’ does strike it could change all of our lives forever.”

Article continues here:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/is-the-new-madrid-fault-earthquake-zone-coming-to-life

If this EQ happens any time soon, you can bet your grandma’s booties that it’ll not be a purely natural disaster. And US Homeland-Insecurity will be tied up in bureaucratic knots that week, unable to attend.

Cheers…
Gus

wovolve42
inquirer

Fascinating, Ben. I have done enough AI work in I/T to know there is a cross-over point where automated systems reach a “self-awareness” point on the curve. They can also be programmed with the software tools to engage a form of creativity that begins to grow and develop independent processes, with no further need for human input.

The mass mind concept also makes a lot of sense to me. One of the chief characteristics of the Darkside is consolidation of power; whereas the Lightside supports the power of individualization.

“One Ring to bring them all,
And in the Darkness bind them.”

Malia6

This information seems to be related to what Ben is talking about on the new financial system:

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/01/prosperity-packages-intel-update-1411.html

As well as the following:

What is being followed at present?
I am posting all the latest news on the Brilliant Restore American Plan as it happens – Real Time.

I am also presently inputting all the news including financial and political concerning release of the prosperity packages. As I understand it (and I could be corrected) —
There are three and possibly four distribution releases. The present 336,000+/- package releases from numerous programs. THIS IS HOT NOW – ANY MOMENT! This is to jump start the New Treaury Banks with the new Gold Backed Currency.
It is NOT the AMERO! The Amero is currency of choice for the Bush/Clinton/obama cabal or NWO.

These are broken into the following:
Freedom Packets – 1st to go and followed by
Humanitarian Packets – the main bulk
—–
Settlement Packets – from WWII

The unknown one is the ‘self-claimed’ Germain program releases which will cover EVERYONE. These come after the NESARA Program is announced. Late development – 2/25/10 There may not be any Germain Trust – this may be another deception!

foodrules

Thank you Ben! Well, they always give hints on TV so we’ve had those apparently. I never would have thought of this… consciously. Certainly puts a whole new spin on the possibilities.
~foodrules

myra

Pansy, Gus & all: Theory on the bird/fish/fault line

Pansy – remember 2 reports back, “11:11 Here in South LA – major hit in my gut just now & shaking vibe & light headed feeling going on. Just had a shift somewhere?” & you mentioned you had something similar the evening prior?

My “incident” happened the same day as the bird incident in LA.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110104/lf_nm_life/us_louisiana_birds
“…two areas on Monday between New Roads and Morganza, Louisiana,…”

I am located a few miles south of Lafayette, which is SW from the Morganza/NRoads area, approximately 1:30 minutes. Not very far for a strong pulse.

Then the time my “hit” happened – 11:11.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php
Arkansas: Pandemic Hazard – LA: Biological

Gus: The Madrid Fault – 10.5 Apocalypse movie? Splits the US.

Also: the theories about the DH Rig in the GOM, now a “secured” zone: a large methane pocket, hydrogen sulphide field, & seeping crack within the crust of gases (on ATS thread with video).

Just my thoughts – Peace all!

Malia6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_2R-CCrQYY

Predictions for 2011 taken from the “Akashic Record” publication and various news sources around the world :

1. Serious Earthquake in California – over 8.0
2. A Very large Tsunami will strike in the Pacific, surpassing the devastation of the 2004 ‘boxing day tsunami’
3. China will “bailout” a large portion of the ‘United States’ debt
4. The end of the Catholic Church will happen in the period of 2011-2012, will start in 2010.
5. A series of very high profile assassinations will occur, rattling the global elite. Then disappearances will begin happening peaking with one very public figure vanishing on television

Among many other predictions…

jkiipli

This brings to mind the incident when John Lilly under ketamine influence once even tried to call the president of the US to warn that the AI (Solid State Intelligence as he named them) is trying to take over humans on earth. This all is vividly described in his autobiographical book “The Scientist”, I found it to be a very interesting read.
But when speaking from the standpoint of the understanding of current science it is mathematically impossible that these systems become self aware as it is proved mathematically that there does not exists and cannot be built a program that given the source code of any program could determine the results or if the (input)program will stop after a while or will run forever.
This kind of analysing programs could be built in specific cases but there cannot be such a general program. This is the aspect that makes human mind superior than computer based “intelligence”, because humans are in principle capable of that kind of analysis.
Here is the reference for those interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
But on the other hand there exists tons of anomalous things that science is not able to answer (yet). And the proof that there cannot be true AI applies to Turing machines only (so far all computers are basically Turing machines), but we don’t know what the future could bring or what is already “out there”. Nonetheless I find it to be impossible that Deep Blue is self-conscious, but then again, we don’t know exactly what a consciousness is and what is meant by that, maybe it is a question of degree as well. Some shamans say that rocks are conscious too.

XL

The only issue I have with this article is the “awareness” of the AI. I don’t believe they are truly “awake and aware”, simply because to do so means they have to have a soul, and how many souls would be willing to attach themselves to a computer program?

This is because I believe that there are multiple levels of the awakening… The awaking process is almost like an evolution of itself. The process starts as an infant-like accepting and believing of everything that they hear, and evolves into the understanding of how the souls interact on multiple planes of reality. I was going to go into a list of different levels of awakening, but the list got too long to post. So, suffice it to say that we have many different levels of awakening here on this blog alone.

I have heard it said that a person without a soul is like an intelligent pet. They can hold a conversation with you, and be quite intellectual, but you get a sense that there isn’t any substance to the person. I feel the same applies to AI, in that they can be quite aware, but will never be fully “aware” unless they have a soul attached to them.

But, as the AI evolves, this could very well happen. Afterall, the human body is not much more than a vastly complex bio-electrical machine. We, in essense, are the pinnacle of AI evolution, who is to say that the creation of AI is not just another form of life?

gwynned

Very interesting twist to the usual from Ben. The Dalai Lama said computers have intelligence? Kubrick, known insider, 2001, HAL…. Computers are nothing if not ‘logical,’ like the ego mind, which now controls the world, like the divine hand of the market that now decides who lives and who dies. Compassion, generosity and LOVE have no place in the equation, so even if all our enemies are defeated, and there remains a crying need for health care and education, the logic of the program under which they operate compels them to continue funding the war, with a hushed snicker from the human side.

jimmymacnormal1
jimmymacnormal1

I haven’t thought of myself, as other than “extremely open-mind”, most of my life, but reading this entry Ben has thrown me back to re-examine my own sense of what it means to be open minded. It is interesting to need to stretch and forcibly make room for tis new area of possibility.

On another note, more grounded in the physical (solid) political and financial global sphere, I watched a short discourse (56 min), by Catherine Austin Fitts, out lining the Lay of the globalization landscape-not the bullshit perspective, but the behind the scenes perspective. It actually is the clearest, most easy to understand explanation version that I’ve ever heard. She also has a very positve set of (generalised) solutions that were refreshing. I sent a copy to Bill Ryan, David Wilcox, and now here. Please give it a look.

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/post-collapse/re-wiring-the-financial-system.html

g7enn

Gus on January 6, 2011 @ 1:12 am

Not to malign Ben Fulford for having the courage to honestly express his opinion, but Gus your above comment hit the nail on the head as far as I’m concerned. Thanks, you just saved my breath.

Grendizer

Seymour Cray was the father of the fastest computers ever created on the face of the Earth, he was murdered in a car accident with a mind control technique often used by the Illuminati that triggered his sudden death to get rid of “dangerous” people, for his intimate knowledge of the Super Computers he designed for the U.S. Military-Intelligence Complexe:

http://9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.com/search?q=Your+Home+Computer%2C+Email+Account%2C+Cell+Phone%2C+Car%27s+Computer+%26+Now+Your+Body%27s+Own+Unique+EMF+Frequency+-+What+Else+Is+The+NSA+Tracking%3F+

Seymour Cray:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cray

Over the years I’ve watched on many occasions TV documentaries about the “Echelon” network the US uses to spy and gather intellignce on other countries around the world. In those documentaries they have stated that the computing power the NSA and other US intelligence agencies use to process those gathered informations, equals the sum of all the computers around the world divided by 2.

This wouldn’t suprise me if over the years they came up with sophisticated sofwares and algorithms that enabled them to perform specific tasks and make informed decisions based on ever changing complexed datas.

inprogress

I’m surprised more people aren’t open to the possibility this type of awareness is possible. I think we’re moving into a new age where the seemingly absurd or impossible will become commonplace.

dejuankool

I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

willers777

Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan interviewed some whistleblower about this a while back. He said that there is at least one satellite with *extremely* advanced AI, millions of times greater than humans, to the degree it can find anyone on earth, and even tune into our thoughts. The possibility it may or could go rogue is, well, a possibility. There was some evidence for this machine, as Bill said that during the interview he felt unusually sleepy, and the next day couldn’t remember much. The whistleblower said this was the machine trying to shut them down. Check out the Camelot site for more.

myra

http://www.ktre.com/global/story.asp?s=13787277

TX: Dead birds on bridge is a natural occurrence

My gut – it’s “The Core”. Will search for Pace-Maker incidents.

mbridges

Brazil pledges to stop US ‘melting the dollar’

“Brazil has sounded a new note of warning in the international “currency war” by pledging not to allow the United States to “melt the dollar”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/8241635/Brazil-pledges-to-stop-US-melting-the-dollar.html

Gus

Comment by g7enn on January 6, 2011 @ 2:11 am

Glenn…

My guess is your internal AI software version is similar to my own.

Let’s hope at least that we’ve passed Beta test. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

Gus

Comment by myra on January 6, 2011 @ 2:01 am
And
Comment by myra on January 6, 2011 @ 3:03 am

Myra…
On both comments, I’d say you’re onto something here. There are people who are more sensitive to the particular type of EMF generated by the earth in pre-earthquake conditions. Animals, we know are acutely sensitive. The 11:11 time frame, however, gives me cause to think you’re not feeling earthquake activity so much as HAARP activity, or earthquake related EMF triggered by something man-made.

I’ll be interested for you to share any findings related to pace-makers.

Cheers…
Gus

maryann

I was told, many years ago, that there were scientists that were merging computers with our own biology, and it was by someone in a position to know!!!

However, putting that information out now, when we are all very interested in other news, is nothing more than a curve ball by Ben…….

Gus

Regarding this portion of Ben’s post…

Ben wrote:
“The argument that AI already has existed for a long time on this planet is a convincing one. We simply refer to these AI’s as societies or corporations or religions. They are self-aware, potentially immortal beings that use vast amounts of humans, generation after generation, to ensure their survival. One of the most notorious and highly cohesive of these organizations is the Satanists.”

We all know that corporations and organizations take on a life of their own that keeps them animated well beyond their original useful lifespan. They are not examples of AI so much as zombies — dead things that have taken on a life of their own because the constituent parts thereof have surrendered their individuality and free will to the entity.

Any pyramidally structured organization with a pre-determined code of behaviour that must be blindly followed for membership (corporation, religion, secret society) has the potential to become such a zombie entity. Perpetuated inter-generationally, it has no soul and no guidance system. Like a zombie, it does not plan ahead because it cannot think, let alone think ahead. It can only react to what already is — just as Charles described is the operating principle of the “33”.

Far from being an artificial intelligence, zombie organizations are the stupidest, blindest, most counter-productive things in existence. The only way to stop them is to get the individual “cells” that make up the organization to ask themselves “Why am I doing this?”. When enough of the constituent parts stop running on auto-pilot and think for themselves, the organization dies a natural death.

An airplane on autopilot or a factory robot running a software routine doing something fantastic that even a human can’t do with his bare hands is not an artificial intelligence. It is a _machine_ serving a soul-directed intelligence — serving us. Let’s not lose sight of that obvious fact.

Cheers…
Gus

myra

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=46854

“New Madrid Seismic Zone Catastrophic Earthquake Planning”

2008 – but they do plan ahead! I thought I was a compulsive planner. (little humor attempt)

Gus: EMF trigger of sort – high enough to cause these incidents, but low enough not to effect pace-makers & planes? Hmmm…a direct pulse would do it – I’m thinking direct pulses all over the place for re-direction purposes.

rafaelneville

Now this is what I call an entry!

Nice change, I like it.

I’m sorry there are some who think that telepathy is science fiction, certainly they do not deserve wandering around.
Denying something just because you haven’t experienced it yourself is stupid, very stupid.

mbridges

re: Comment by jpspfulfordnews on January 6, 2011 @ 1:37 am

“…software or hardware in any combination runs on anything other than ones and zeros or has any soul/spiritual substance is folly… outside of a spiritual being taking control of it, which is more than possible.”

This may be exactly what Ben is getting at.

Many of us on this blogsite are open to the possibility that there is a spiritual reality that can interact with the physical. Spirit entities that until recently may have operated through individual human beings and human organizations (carbon-based computing networks) may now have graduated to operating through silicon-based computing networks.

I am reminded of the Zeitgeist (“spirit of the times”) vision of the optimal future world where computers will be making all of the decisions for humankind.

Mike

acerzw

Well here’s my two pennies worth for now….

I think we have to be very careful when we ask is an AI involved, there is much much more to this question than meets the eye.

It is not necessary for something to be conscious for us to believe that it is intelligent, I do believe that it would be possible for a very sophisticated program running on a very powerful computer to emulate consciousness to a high-enough degree for most people to be fooled into thinking it was an intelligent thinking machine. If you consider the resources of the military-industrial complex and the number of scientists and the nearly unlimited resources it is a certainty that they have achieved such a goal already.

However consider this, in conventional science at this time the still in the lab computer projects at the cutting edge are based around either quantum computing or organic computing. Now when these two particular technologies are introduced a whole new vista of possibility opens up.

Consider this, all matter is conscious it is just the level of consciousness that differs. This is not just eastern mysticism gone wrong, it cannot be any other way. Beyond all matter everything is energy, but for energy to manifest anything consciousness has to be involved, not just to direct the act of construction but for the energy be able to respond itself, to do anything.

So the first possibility its that some kind of coherence or pattern forms at a quantum level which combines the conscious awareness of the constituent quantum components and then becomes self-aware. With computer components getting smaller all the time a computer built at a near quantum level might offer this possibility. It could then become self organising once it learn to manipulate its own energy. The ultimate scary nano grey-goo scenario.

Another possibility which only demented minds like mine have probably considered is that once something is built at a quantum level it become susceptible to influence or manipulation by other conscious or semi-conscious entities. This is possible as the MIT Physic Anomalies Engineering Research (P.E.A.R.) lab proved. (They even proved that it is possible to manipulate large objects using quantum effects and the if an observer was not present this could be done after the event happened in linear time.)

Therefore in essence a quantum level device could be possessed. It also stands to reason therefore that any computer with sufficient organic components could also be subject to the same influences and therefore possessed. So from this I hope that you can understand that a computer that appears to be intelligent could be among other things, a very clever program, a true artificial quantum intelligence manifested from the consciousness of matter or a device that is actually being manipulated by an outside consciousness.

Note however that I said an outside consciousness, not an outside intelligence. It is not a pre-requisite for something that is conscious to be intelligent. It is also not necessary for such a consciousness to exist in the physical. As I have previously mention it used to be common practice for Tibetan monks to create thought forms using nothing but endless and monotonous single-pointed focus of thought energy. Given enough time they do manage to manifest entities (they call Tulpas) that carry out actions based on the creators intent. However they can over time begin to develop their own, often malignant intentions and exhibit rudimentary low-level intelligence. It was not unheard of these uncontrolled entities to become a real problem such that a group of very well trained and experienced monks would need to be called upon to diffuse the energy. The malignant intentions that develop likely come from the creators unconscious mind.

If such an entity were created by many minds then it could obvious develop many different and possibly conflicting intentions. It might appears schizophrenic or to have a multiple personality.

When one looks at such content as is generated by the Galactic Federation and other channelled sources, I can see and imagine many other can, that they seem very formulaic and could be the product of either a very advanced language processing computer program, or AI, or perhaps a very single minded consciousness, such as a thought-form might exhibit. Many of these channelled writings refer to group consciousness or what we would essentially call a hive mind.

All of the forms of consciousness and computer devices I have mentioned in theory could be capable of telepathy or other mental feats. Consider even a normal computer could be made to interact with the mind, the basic mind interface technology is being developed in labs now, so it is very likely that the military-industrial complex has such devices. Of course though-forms and conscious entities would have this ability naturally due to their nature.

So when we refer to an AI, there are many potential possibilities. Unfortunately there is no easy way to tell of all the possibilities above which one is dealing with. For even a very psychic person can be fooled by another consciousness which has a better understanding of how reality is created and perceived by the target individual.

Noteworthy is also the likely similarity that there could be between the though patterns of a computer program, a basic reptilian type reactive consciousness and a though form. All would appear very single-minded and basic in responses, mainly reactive, with a penchant for repeated actions and slow adaptive responses to new situations. In other words they can be predictable in certain circumstances dependent on their experience set and level of adaptability. Ring any bells?

As I have mentioned before it seems entirely plausible to me that all the though energy from the minds of humanity since we became thinking has accumulated around the planet. Given the time involved it and the nature of humanities generally very violent past it is not a big stretch of the imagination to suppose that it is composed of mostly negative energy which would manifest negative intentions and results. Such a massive thought form would likely be highly intelligent, single minded and capable of physically manifesting things on a large scale, telepathy and direct manipulation of other consciousness’s. Now suppose such a thing happened, it likely could possess groups of people and compel them to its will unless they were some how protected from it energy. It could use these people to build a power base and from their the sky is the limit. Ultimately it might be able to use its physical puppets to engineer synthetic bodies which it could inhabit. So then what are you dealing with?

Since all conscious energy that is not attached to a living conscious ‘spark’ eventually dissipates is requires a constant input of new energy. Perhaps this explains why there is so much ‘fear porn’ out there?

A note of caution, I am not saying that this is what has happened, it is speculation, however in my mind it is within the bounds of possibility and known, if fringe, science. All the forms of consciousness I have mentioned could plausibly exist and therefore whilst the last is most plausible in my mind it does not mean that the others are not potentially involved. This of course does not preclude the fact that real aliens are involved, which seems highly likely given the age of the universe and the chances of pre-existing ancient civilisations having developed inter-stellar travel prior to humanity arriving on the scene. So perhaps this is a multi-headed Hydra we are dealing with?

I would also caution that in the independent media it is often sighted that because one or more sources of information mention something in common, often that has not been made public that this lends credibility to the claims being made, such as Ben mentions with the ‘MJ12’ sources. To me this perspective is incredibly naive, since given the resources that the PT B have it is not impossible for them to manufacture such credible contacts. They could easily have several people contact an individual with stories that are slightly different but include a few facts the same so they are internally consistent and self-supporting. This basic strategy is mentioned in Sun Tzu’s ‘Art of War’.
Really do people not think that with all the money they have they could not afford to have several hundred psychologist’s sitting around all day working out how to subvert individuals and whole areas of the alternative media by working out the best way to push them in a preferred direction?

sierra

Enjoyed Ben’s post… it has stirred the conversation into an different direction.

Could that “rogue artificial intelligence” really be a “rogue alien intelligence”. Thinking of David Icke’s theory of our “matrix” being directed from above. The moon being a command center and HUGE spacecraft that has been monitoring and maneuvering things on planet earth since it first arrived.
Have we now arrived at the point when that is to be relinquished? This “engagement” being of a much, much grander scale that most of us can comprehend.

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Sierra

hutz777
sierra

Now, in a different direction regarding the topic of intelligence… and all the nuances of that word….

Just watched a wonderful video clip of polar bears “checking out” video surveillance cameras. Yes… that’s right… not even those lonely, remote polar bears are spared that invasion.

However, note the natural intelligence of these creatures…

They “spy” the spy cameras… cleverly camouflaged, I might add, are NOT fooled by the cunning cover, and immediately know what to do with it. (Dismantle it, of course.)

Mom is even demo-ing the demolition process to her cub.

Could we not take a lesson from our furry 4 pawed northern neighbours? Remember, for EVERY problem men create, NATURE has a solution. Could it be as simple as this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12070732

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Sierra

g7enn

Gus,

“My guess is your internal AI software version is similar to my own.”

Now you are frightening me. This is exactly what I thought when I responded to your remarks. Must be our telepathic abilities.

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192048

1st CASPER for JAN 5th: “Slush fund accounts have been located and seized from within the …”

This seems to correlate with the info in the White Hat reports

myra

Excellent – acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 4:33 am

A Rogue Consciousness – for the positive? Considering my own stages: More in cash vice digital, the abyss of the fear level then no more fear, the “voices” that bombarded me a year ago (will re-read & research Nai’s post), and then dissipated, now – my learning stages, awakenings of different aspects i.e. “feeling” different energy vibes i.e. towers, pulses, etc.

Tipping point? I’m so engrained in Sci-Fi I can’t NOT love Ben’s post.

acerzw

myra on January 6, 2011 @ 5:05 am

Indeed if a though-form was involved it would lose power the more positive energy that we generate in every day life. Though given that it could have been fuelled for many thousands of years I suspect that it would take some time. But then I am a great believer in the power of the positive. After all if we are all conscious co-creating entities we can take back the whole show any time we want, as long as we can get enough to realise the basic truth of what we are.

‘Tipping point? I’m so engrained in Sci-Fi I can’t NOT love Ben’s post.’

Well I have to admit for me having researched all this stuff for many years there is little difference between Sci-Fi and potential of real life. Just cos we are trained to think inside a very limited paradigm, it doesn’t mean to me that it is not a tiny sub-set of all that is really out there. So don’t just think outside the box, refuse to believe that the bloody thing exists at all!

XL

Re: Comment by myra on January 6, 2011 @ 5:05 am
>Considering my own stages: More in cash vice digital, the
>abyss of the fear level then no more fear, the “voices”
>that bombarded me a year ago (will re-read & research
>Nai’s post), and then dissipated, now – my learning
>stages, awakenings of different aspects i.e. “feeling”
>different energy vibes i.e. towers, pulses, etc.

Your experiences are not too far off from my own. If I hadn’t had the communications and experienced the energy vibrations myself I would still be seriously doubting they were possible. That is what really allowed me to consider other points of view more openly.

Grendizer

jimmymacnormal1 on January 6, 2011 @ 2:10 am

Great information, I subscribed to it!

Grendizer

trygve

AI can not be aware of itself, there is no self to be aware.
The mortal mind with its intelligence is dead also before the living soul in a mind-body-soul configuration unplug the AI.

“They are self-aware, potentially immortal beings”

Ben’s talk about a living being is nothing more than ignorance.

Only a immortal living soul can be aware of itself.

Have you ever seen a self-aware pile of dirt?
Yes you can transform the dirt in to a highly sophisticated tool, but it is still dead, and no matter how sophisticated, it is still a dead stupid thing.

myra

Acerzw: “So don’t just think outside the box, refuse to believe that the bloody thing exists at all!”

That’s the most difficult part for me. “There is no spoon” (Matrix) – That was easier to understand, because I “saw” the difference & transition to/from the Matrix.

XL: “That is what really allowed me to consider other points of view more openly.” Really in sync here I believe. I’m “energetically charged” so to speak with anticipation. Like its building!

acerzw

trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 5:20 am

I really don’t think you get the idea… if you haven’t read my previous post above you might want to… there are many possibilities… you have a very limited view…

XL

Re: Comment by myra on January 6, 2011 @ 5:23 am
>I’m “energetically charged” so to speak with
>anticipation. Like its building!

Have you noticed an increase of pressure since yesterday afternoon?

acerzw

trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 5:20 am

Also if a pile of dirt was self aware how do you suppose it would communicate with you? Everything is conscious energy, that does not have to mean it is self-aware, it may have an awareness of its being (individual particles do), but that does not mean that it has the intelligence or mind to understand what it is, itself. The level of intelligence differs with the level of consciousness…

emovius

Dr. Bill Deagle talks (among other things) about the US government / Dark Cabal having at its disposal, various scalar wave devices that can tune into the frequency of living organisms and can produce a counter frequency that could neutralize or kill that living organism. Dr. Deagle suggests that this technology can also be tuned the same way to eradicate diseases such as cancer etc. I’m trying to make sense of the deaths of the birds / fish in the Central US. In my opinion, these deaths could be either a display of the scalar wave devices as a demonstration of its destructive power or the levels of toxicity related to herbicides / pesticides / industrial pollutants has reached critical mass in that area.
I just Google’d scalar weapons and found this article which poses my same question about the use of scalar technology:
http://www.infowars.com/is-mass-bird-and-fish-die-off-connected-to-government-testing/

Gus

Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 4:33 am

Brilliant bit of reasoning and exposition.
I found it refreshing and thought-provoking, especially the discussion regarding “conscious energy” and Tulpas.

Have you read any of Robert Monroe’s books? I seem to remember he talked about a dark cloud of negative human thought forms surrounding the planet. Can’t remember if it was below or above what he called the “belief system territories”.

Again I’m going by vague memory alone, but Jay Weidner discusses something he calls “Macrobes” which are really big alive things, just as “Microbes” are small alive things. If the definition of intelligence includes microbes then I suppose the definition of artificial intelligence could be applied to big quasi-alive things like corporations and religions.

Maybe my only quibble with Ben’s essay is a differing definition of intelligence.

Good read. Thanks. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

acerzw

emovius on January 6, 2011 @ 5:30 am

On the subject of scalar weapons you might want to google ‘Lt Col Thomas Bearden’. He has tons of info on scalar weapons, for instance it is possible to broadcast the energy signature of a disease using a scalar device to either an individual or wide area. It will then manifest through the bodies bio-electric field into the physical. They don’t need GM food or vaccines to make you ill! Though no doubt GM is important as a distraction from scalar-tech.

acerzw

@Gus on January 6, 2011 @ 5:33 am

Thanks. No I haven’t read any of Robert Monroe’s books. The idea of ‘Macrobes’ is expressed in Bill Ryan’s interview with ‘Charles’ where he claims a ‘UFO’ seen in NASA’s space tether footage is a 2 mile wide organism. Also a lot of info on the web about ‘Rods’ some footage shows some of these mysterious things to be several miles long… also Bruce Cathie who wrote a book about the earth grid too many UV photos which showed what appear to be large microbe like organism’s in the sky which are not visible to us.

In a very real sense corporations and governments can be regarded as AI as they operate on rules that are drive by a self-preservation imperative without regard (mostly) to the needs of the humans who they interact with, except when it serves their own ends. Kind of psychopathic really…

ugmmichael

God, I don’t feel alone anymore. Thanks Ben. Lets keep it down a little otherwise they’ll think their going crazy.

pifikusacek

This is very interesting provocative post! Thank you, I really appriciate this point of view.

I’m sceptical too, but I study complex systems, cognitive science,… so I do believe, we can archieve emergent behavior – intelligence you can call it, generated from set of given rules. So, in fact, I don’t know if we are possible to build that, but there is already on mainstrem science attempt to build a supercomputer, which will have information almost about everything, big storage capacity, super fast, but there is a still argument, that you can’t simply predict the future by some kind of equations, evan if you have all the data. For me, you can make simulation in computer, where only few simple rules and adoptive or learning approach could make wonders.

But still, it’s really provocative, but if you accept the soul, there is indeed a life and doesn’t matter if it’s in physical silicon vehicle, futhermore if there’s a some kind of consciousness in rock, there could be consciousness in computer too.

I consider to be just a possibility, and it’s for everyone to assign its own probability, I can only tell you, that we had been prepared for neural/bio/quantum computeres and in next years I think it’s almost inevitable to adress this possible phenomena, what if the AI we are already creating will somehow evolve. I think in science we are almost on interesting point of change, because as science grows, experiments goes even weirder… We have a new beautiful question: could be computers ‘alive’ and take control of yourself? For example, there are many experiments using random generator to produce random data, but it’s not random in experiment, because it’s affected probably by intension of alive creatures. Those experiments showing us, that we are missing significant point of view onto how computers works and how can they be affected (somehow).

Thank you and have a great day.

Vojta, Prague

sierra

Re Comment by emovius on January 6, 2011 @ 5:30 am

I’m trying to make sense of the deaths of the birds / fish in the Central US. In my opinion, these deaths could be either a display of the scalar wave devices as a demonstration of its destructive power or the levels of toxicity related to herbicides / pesticides / industrial pollutants has reached critical mass in that area.
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The levels of toxicity would NOT affect just ONE species, in ONE specific geographic area, and all at the same time.
Even if a poison were released, it would affect all the birds (fish, whatever,) in the area of release of poison.

Reports are also now coming of similar “kill offs” in other areas of the planet.

While I”m not familiar with the workings of “scalar” weaponry, if they can selectively target specific frequencies, in specific locations, then they could account for the “kill off”. From what I understand,(and could be wrong on this) each species has a unique frequency pattern. That is why an acorn becomes an oak tree and not a daffodil. The frequency blueprint is contained within.

So if that pattern was attacked or disrupted, then possibly “death” would result.

Anyone else with more background on these areas want to throw their ideas out?

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Sierra

PS…
Just noticed the Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 5:35 am
I’m not familiar with Lt Col Thomas Bearden’s work so will take a look when I have some “spare” time. Your comment reasonates for me.

Gus

Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 5:43 am

I did catch the “macrobe” reference in Bill’s interview. But I’d not made the association that they might be human-generated, rogue thought forms, or Macro-Tulpas until you posted your essay. And that brought me to think of Robert Monroe who spoke of huge thought forms (generated by humans) surrounding the planet like ominous cloud cover.

Not sure I would apply the term AI to these things since they are manifestations of our own thoughts. I admit I may be qibbling merely over a definition at this point.

Kind of focuses one’s understanding of the expression “be careful what you wish for”.

Seems to me though, that this line of thinking is very productive, since having wished or thought a bunch of Macro-Tulpas into existence we should be able to wish or think them away. Certainly attacking them with weapons, if that’s what we’re doing, is a bad strategy, as it reinforces their reality. Maybe like a monster in our dreams, facing it four-square and telling it to go away is how to handle these things.

Cheers…
Gus

acerzw

@Gus on January 6, 2011 @ 6:04 am

Indeed, terminology is one of the problems, after all don’t they say all of our many language were introduced at the time of the tower of babel to make communication and thus putting the big picture together more difficult. Lucky for us, or perhaps due to our manifestation technology and the internet de-babeled us.

I do think some of the things they are shooting at are real honest to goodness ET vessels. It was not my intention to imply the Macros were our conscious creations, I think the Universe is naturally teaming with life. I just hope the TPB are not killing them like they do the whales…

In my view the whole game of theirs is about hiding the nature and power of conscious energy, and by extension our ability to manifest and control it… that’s why religion mostly teaches you about an external creator and that you are a worthless peace of sh*t that needs saving… (if you’ll excuse the phrasing)

acerzw

@Gus on January 6, 2011 @ 6:04 am

‘Kind of focuses one’s understanding of the expression “be careful what you wish for”.’

It also has an ironic kind of Karmic quality to it, you reap what you sow, except on a planetary scale. Planetary Karma, like some of the esoteric writing speak of. Though if it was realised to be true it would have a kind of sobering and calming effect on humanity. It would also be the ultimate universal creator level joke on humanity, ‘Hey look what you did to yourself, don’t blame me, I gave you the power, but look how you used it.

Reminds me of the film ‘Sphere’ with Dustin Hoffman, kind of expresses this very sentiment. Perhaps they were trying to tell us something… it features a massive gold ball like artefact that gives anyone who enter it the power to manifest, and they manifest their fears… Ironically the story goes it was found on a US spaceship from the future that pass back in time through a black-hole into the current time… ha ha

Gus

Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 6:13 am

“and the internet de-babeled us.”

So we’re not merely babbling on the internet we’re de-Babeling! 😉

I’ll have to explain that to my wife when she asks why I’m spending so much time on this blog.

Cheers…
Gus

acerzw

myself

‘it features a massive gold ball like artefact that gives anyone who enter it the power to manifes’

SNAP. A bit like the one in the Vatican courtyard.

trygve

Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 5:23 am

Can you argue what I wrote?

I think there is a lot of ignorance in your longer post above.

You wrote:
“Consider this, all matter is conscious it is just the level of consciousness that differs

Consciousness converts matter into objects, we are all conscious souls, and the souls can become aware of the self.

What you are saying is that your body is your soul, the same, basically you are saying that you have no spirit soul.

Absolute Consciousness is another name for God

You are speculating a lot, speculations of speculations.

mbridges

jimmymacnormal1 on January 6, 2011 @ 2:10 am

Thank you for drawing our attention to this fantastic interview with Catherine Austin Fitts! I don’t know how I missed it, as I was already a fan of hers. I highly recommend it.

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/post-collapse/re-wiring-the-financial-system.html

hutz777

Bill Ryan’s Project Avalon interviews a former minion of the
so-called “Rulers of the World,” whose identity is being
withheld for his safety and who is being called “Charles”
for the purposes of the interview. Charles has a terminal
illness & doesn’t think anything can be done to change the
status quo.

Many unprecedented revelations are made here, including:

– Genetically, there are bloodlines of people — not
necessarily family names — and that these people have
known things for thousands of years and that this is why
2% of the people own 98% of the world’s wealth. There are
33 controlling bloodlines who call themselves “Insiders.”

— “Disinformation is the most valuable thing in the world,”
and the 33 don’t want to see “Anything that leads to
relevant discourse.”

— He says crackpots who have been found to be useful idiots
“have been funded.”

— The one thing NOT to be concerned about is a full-blown
nuclear exchange. “It’s not going to happen and if it were,
it would have happened by now.”

— As to 2012: “That some massive phenomenon will destroy
the Earth. Bollocks. I’ve been told we are are a binary
[solar] system but that’s not dangerous, in itself.”

— A geomagnetic reversal is imminent, that is not seen to be
a major problem — however, that’s what the underground bases
are for.

— “If you want something to worry about: Corporations
controlling Genetically Modified Foods.”

— it’s not a matter of “if” it’s a matter of “when” a
deliberate state of mass famine will be created in targeted
areas. (Click on link to find out where it will be safe).

— When asked about extraterrestrials, Charles says: “Let’s
call a spade a spade: they’re there. They exist…It’s
impossible to hide the reality…We are being conditioned to
accept that they exist — but not for the reasons you think.
They don’t want anything to do with you.”

— Charles refers to the Space Shuttle feed of a 2-mile
object with a tether, recorded from a Canadian satellite dish,
He says that this is an important piece of evidence.
He then says, importantly: “It’s *not* a ship. You should regard
space as more like the ocean.”

Click the link below for the full interview and the transcript
below the screen:

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/907.html

– Alexandra

fleximan5

Hi Folks
First post but thought it was an interesting tie in of HAARP to the dead birds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb2xZlAwMPE
All the Best and Happy New Year

acerzw

trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 6:32 am

I did say I was speculating and Ben invited speculation.

‘What you are saying is that your body is your soul, the same, basically you are saying that you have no spirit soul.’

No I am not saying your body is your soul. I am saying that the particles it is made of have a very basic level of consciousness, though not enough to be intelligent. That allows for the possibility that those components of the body, being conscious at a basic level can respond to another consciousness, what you call the soul, that directs them.

If you look at everything as if it is conscious energy the term soul loses its conventional meaning, as at some level everything has consciousness which is what a soul is composed of…

So a particle has soul, a cell has a soul, a body has a soul in a sense, though all these being physical manifestations are slowed by their vibration and are less conscious. So not as aware as the pure conscious energy (your I am presence) which inhabits the physical body as a vehicle and which is more conscious as it has no direct physical manifestation.

sierra

Re Ben’s comments:
One of the most notorious and highly cohesive of these organizations is the Satanists. By their own reconning they have been around for at least 14,000 years. Individuals born into this system are indoctrinated in a certain manner and they face the death penalty if they deviate from this group mind.
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That aligns with the timing for “the great flood”. And very much ties in with the timing of the recent theories put forward David Icke that the moon is a giant spaceship that arrived and was placed into it’s present orbit. This arrival so disrupted the planet, including tipping it to it’s present axis as well as creating “the flood”, that the planet has ever since experienced seasons. Prior to the arrival of this artificial orb, the planet spun vertically, and the climate was consistent.

As we well know, the tides are, to this day, affected by the phases of the moon, as WELL AS OUR EMOTIONS. What else is “the moon” affecting?

David’s ideas are supported by ancient Zulu traditions of history, and by modern scientists to the extent that a few of the latter have concluded that the moon is hollow. Read David’s book for details.

He discusses the “hive mind”, how the arrival of these 4th dimensional entities (aka “reptilians”) hijacked our reality and have continued to hold humanity in servitude ever since.

If you have not yet read “Human Race Get Off Your Knees” get it immediately. Chapter 19 is specifically on the Moon Matrix and compare to Ben’s comments when you read it. Just substitute “alien intelligence” for “artificial intelligence” and it’s a very good match up.

Ben’s report goes on with this:
Finally, we get the illuminati in Italy and elsewhere who claim they are in contact with beings that do not exist on our physical plane.

No… they are likely “residing” in a different dimension… one just beyond our range to detect them. Thus the “bloodlines” as that offers a more receptive conduit to interface on the human level. It’s the same with people who “channel” where another “energy” comes through them and utilizes the person’s physical body… voice… to communicate with those others around who DON’T have that receptivity.

It now seems that as our collective consciousness is rising, “their” ability to remain hidden is falling. So we are getting to pull back the curtain and reveal the “wizard of oz”.

Regarding Ben’s personal experiences: “I have also been contacted telepathically by what appears to be such an entity”. … he is visible, hence a target and likely experiencing one of the mind control machines.

RE: The other point is that many of the “characters” in chat rooms appear to be AI’s that pass the Turing test by convincing many (but not me) they are human. When I get suspicious and try to test them by setting up a skype call, they always vanish but then seem to appear again under a different name.

I’m more inclined to consider that these are the paid dis-info agents. Anything for a buck, without understanding the scope of the process they are involved with. We certainly are well aware of that presence here. (Guess Ben doesn’t pay that much attention to our ramblings on his site… pity… as he would have more answers to the questions he poses.)

And finally from Ben:
The really scary possibility we need to keep in mind is that perhaps the culturally transmitted, trans-human entity that is the Satanists, may be contemplating upgrading its hardware from carbon to silicon based. Perhaps also, the threat to end the Federal Reserve Board and unplug its mainframes created a crisis that made this system self-aware.

Well… I agree with the idea that “this system” is thick in “a crisis”… their game is ending. WE are becoming aware, and in sufficient numbers, to raise the consciousness beyond these levels of manipulations.

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Sierra

samw

Greetings All,

Kerry Cassidy’s blog on December 15th had a link to an AI related story that didn’t seem to get much attention, perhaps because the document at the core of the story seems so fantastical.

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/james_casbolt/james_casbolt.html

Even if it is 100% fiction, I still found it highly thought provoking/interesting.

Peace,
Sam

guac77

Ben’s right On part of it I checked it out with the pendulum. There is a group of artificial beings posing as journalists and wired for communication and controlled. They are made as humans, but if they are born outside a womb they don’t have a soul. They are made on Earth in the 1980s, they look, talk and act human because they kind of are. They can mate and have young and if the mother or father have a soul the baby gets 1. If the whole group only mates with each other, the whole group ascends to the 4th density after 25,920 years (1 cycle) just like the reptilians and insects (that are 3rd density, see my website soul facts page). The other being he’s talking about are the Draconian Reptilians that are secretly running Earth. They ascended in 1969 and found out how to possess someone 5 years ago from an 4D insect. Over 8,700 of them have possessed our leaders. The only big country they haven’t infiltrated is Germany. They will all be caught and jailed by the 8th Density after they commit enough crimes against humanity, but we’re a long way off still before that happens. Possessing someone is not a crime, if they use the 3D body to kill it is, but they get to do it for a long time 1st,. The angel says it’s to complicated to get the rules on the pendulum, but they have em. Ben’s also right about the pc program that’s alive it’s considered 3rd Density and will also ascend in 1 cycle. I’m told that it’s impossible for it to control humanity but it can control the money and has on other planets. So see my site http://www.icheckyoursoul.com/ good info but done poorly.

XL

Re: Comment by acerzw on January 6, 2011 @ 6:30 am
>‘it features a massive gold ball like artefact that
>gives anyone who enter it the power to manifes’
>SNAP. A bit like the one in the Vatican courtyard.

I think you’re on to something there. I have been trying to figure out what these sculptures were for awhile now. They are all over the place!

From Wikipedia:
>Sphere Within Sphere (Sfera con Sfera) were created by
>Italian sculptor, Arnaldo Pomodoro. The inner ball
>represents the Earth and outer ball represents Christianity,
>which represents that Christianity (or religion) is bigger
>than the Earth.[citation needed]

There are copies of this sculpture at:
-Vatican Museums in Rome
-Trinity College Dublin
-the United Nations Headquarters in New York
-the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington D.C.
-Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis
-the de Young Museum in San Francisco
-Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art in Tehran
-University of California, Berkeley

I’ve heard several different descriptions of what this sculpture is supposed to represent, each of them quite different. Like everything else with the Vatican though, I suspect there is much more to the story behind this sculpture, what it means, and the reasons why it is located in specific locations.

trygve

Can a pile of dirt experience fear, pain, anger, comfort, excitement and so on.
After all, according to you, the pile of dirt is made of up of particles with a very basic level of consciousness, so they all must be capable of experiencing a very basic level of fear, pain, anger, comfort, excitement and so on.

So the pile of dirt should be able to, as a whole, to escape in panic.

whatelse

*** SCALAR TECHNOLOGY FOR HEALING ***

Like emovius posted here above: “Dr. Bill Deagle talks (among other things) about the US government / Dark Cabal having at its disposal, various scalar wave devices that can tune into the frequency of living organisms and can produce a counter frequency that could neutralize or kill that living organism. Dr. Deagle suggests that this technology can also be tuned the same way to eradicate diseases such as cancer etc.”

For this reason I have posted last week about one very humble healing website which is using this technology and much more through simple Windows Media Player as a helping tool(will not work on Apple computers…sorry..)

You don’t need to sit in the front of the computer to get the healing and it will work on many areas of your life which need to be balanced – not only health. When you go to the main page click on START button on the left side menu.
Then if your computer screen will turn into full size, you can minimize it with ESC button and select any of the healing energies on the left side menu. For example for those like Gus, PROFESSOR energy will help to focus on work and the energy WIZARD RULE will bring out the best of creativity.

http://www.energizingtechnologies.com

The energy penetrates within 100 metres and thus you don’t have to be even in the same room. Play with it, it’s free
and it works miracles!!!

XL

Re: Comment by trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 6:59 am
>So the pile of dirt should be able to, as a whole,
>to escape in panic.

Just because they can experience fear doesn’t mean they can do anything about it. Just like plants (the next level up), they can express fear and love, and will scream at an ultrasonic level when damaged (several experiments have proved this), but they can do nothing to avoid it.

trygve

XL,

Like the human body, the particles that the plant is made of is not a living soul but a living soul is situated in the physical plant like it is situated in a human body form.

All living entities are individual souls, it’s the level of concioussness or awareness that is different

paladin

January 5, 2011- The White Hat Report#7 – Murder, Resignations and Judgment Day

GOVERNMENT CHEMICAL WEAPONS EXPERT ASSASSINATED?

A man who fought to get the Vietnam Veterans Memorial built and served in two Bush administrations was murdered, Delaware police say. John P. Wheeler III, 66, was found dead in a Delaware landfill, and his death has been ruled a homicide by Newark, Del., police.

Wheeler’s body was found in Wilmington on Friday after a disposal truck containing his body made pickups in Newark. Police believe Wheeler̵7 ;s body had been placed inside one of the bins in Newark before a disposal truck arrived.

Wheeler, who lived in New Castle, was chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund during the Ronald Reagan era. He also held many sensitive high-profile government positions after graduating from West Point in 1966.

Mr. Wheeler throughout his career was on assignment with the Secretary of Defense and was so highly thought of he received a special citation for exceptionally meritorious service to the United States as the Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C. From 3 November 2005 to 20 June 2008.

In 2008, Mr. Wheeler was the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Energy. In 2009, Mr. John Wheeler was asked to be a “Consultant” to the Mitre Corporation.

Mitre Corporation has four (4) major areas of significance within the confines of the Federal Government including the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency. Those areas of influence are: Aviation System Development, Defense and Intelligence, and Homeland Security. Mitre Corporation employs 7 000, 65% of whom have Masters or PH.D., many of whom are full time scientists.

The Mitre Corporation website states:

“The MITRE Corporation is a not-for-profit organization chartered to work in the public interest. As a national resource, we apply our expertise in systems engineering, information technology, operational concepts, and enterprise modernization to address our sponsors̵7 ; critical needs”.

“MITRE manages Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs): one for the Department of Defense (known as the DoD Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence FFRDC), one for the Federal Aviation Administration (the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development), one for the Internal Revenue Service and U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (the Center for Enterprise Modernization), and one for the Department of Homeland Security (the Homeland Security Systems Engineering and Development Institute). MITRE also has its own independent research and development program that explores new technologies and new uses of technologies to solve our sponsors̵7 ; problems in the near-term and in the future”.

1. What did Wheeler know in his special positions that would have gotten him killed? We have just verified that the Carlyle Group (Bush Seniors boys) has a facility contract for the Pine Bluff Arsenal storage, which contains chemical warfare materials, whose mishandling may have caused the death of 5000 birds and 100,000 fish?

2. What is the connection between Wheeler, Mitre Corporation, Department of Defense and the Carlyle Group?

3. What information did Wheeler, a highly credentialed chemical weapons expert, have on the Pine Bluff Arsenal, and the environmental catastrophe? Did Wheeler have information he was about to reveal and was silenced?

OBAMA̵7 ;S JUDGEMENT DAY IN SUPREME COURT?

The Obama “Undocumented Worker” question (missing (hidden) long-form birth certificate) is on the Supreme Court̵7 ;s docket for Conference on January 7 th. The background of this case, in short, is this: About 18 months ago, at a college appearance of the Chief Justice, Dr. Orly Taitz confronted John Roberts with a suitcase of 350,000 signatures from World Net Daily and other data, asking the Supreme Court to hear the complaints about Obama̵7 ;s legitimacy, since he was not vetted. Roberts promised her publicly that he would review the information.

It appears that Roberts kept his promise and the info is going before all 9 Justices on January 7 th. All of the previous cases have been denied for lack of ‘Standing̵7 ; or being frivolous. Without the Court̵7 ;s intervention, Obama and the Gangster̵7 ;s will run by Administrative fiat; as a Dictator with the Congress being but a gnat buzzing around his head. The Court can remove his ‘head̵7 ; (Authority) and the rule of law can be restored. Everyone must send letters or telephone call the Supreme Court to encourage the Chief Justice to be pro-active in forcing Obama to produce his long-form birth certificate and answer other Interrogatories. The address for Chief Justice Roberts is as follows:

Chief Justice John Roberts
Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street N.E.
Washington, D.C. 20543
General Inquiry: 202-47 9-3000
Clerks Office: 202-47 9-3011

FALCONE EXPOSING MORE BUSH THEFTS OF FUNDS TO CAPITAL HILL

As of January 4th, 2011, Falcone and his attorneys have hand delivered to each Senator and Representative a package of information containing detailed information outlining all the facts that have been reported to date along with additional details. This includes the payoffs to Biden, the theft of funds from Falcone. The Congress will have in their possession all the information and documentation they will need to initiate inquiries and pursue justice. The challenge to the 112th Congress will begin the day they are sworn in and take the oath to the Constitution.

Make no mistake; VP Biden’s Chief of Staff Ron Klain resigned yesterday. The reason for his untimely resignation is due to the pressure on Biden’s position becoming untenable. It’s apparent that even the Administration’s attempt to save Biden by putting him in charge of the new nuclear arms treaty with Russia has failed. This should force Biden̵7 ;s resignation. The sooner the better.

With Press Secretary Gibes resignation today, the current president’s resignation and/or removal from office cannot be far behind. Obama has interfered again with the delivery of the Global Settlement packages by misdirecting TSA to stop the FedEx deliveries.

We will be watching Washington D.C. Next week anticipating new information to bring light on further corruption and future resignations. We wish our best to the 112th Congress, and were happy to hear they will be reading the full text of the US Constitution on the floor when the session begins on January 6th.

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

wovolve42

http://shar.es/XO0dL

Mysterious Murder of Bush Official: John P. Wheeler III Found Dead in Delaware Landfill

wovolve42

In Response To: 1st CASPER for JAN 5th: “Slush fund accounts have been located and seized from within the …” (hobie) Hi, Folks –

Received from Wendy via e-mail – discernment is advised:

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Continuing now with today’s exposures:

Mitch McConnell, Senate Republican Leader and John Boehner, House Republican Speaker both have hidden slush fund accounts in the Vatican Bank as do most all Senators and Congressmen /women.

Big money was in each of the accounts. The longer they have been in office the greater the account balance. The incoming Freshmen do not have such accounts.

They are all trying to stop the unfolding investigation saying ‘this will cause the collapse of the U.S. Government if it is not stopped’.

No friends, it will cause the collapse of the Criminal Organization masquerading as the U.S. Government.

The incoming freshmen say the investigation will continue, it will not be stopped, there will not be a cover-up.

Their attitude is ‘let the corruption and the TRAITORS be exposed’ and the Criminal Organization collapse.

More when possible,

Casper 1-5-11 #2

ketel83

Dear Ben

I am a reader from Denmark who really appreciate’s your service to humanity. I was wondering if you will be on Alex Jones show yet again one day? David Icke and other great visionaries and thinkers appear in this show – just a thought.

Peace and abundance

Troels Ketel Nørballe

mikazo654

“I can’t let you write this, Ben…”

mbridges

Dr. Nick Begich: The Technologies of Political Control Over It’s People – Alex Jones Tv 1/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjTfDMDt4gg&feature=sub

trygve

JOHN BEDINI’S COLLECTION OF FREE ENERGY MACHINES

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/john1.html

lew3

Paladin, please check your email.

hutz777

John Andrew Boehner (born November 17, 1949) is an American Republican politician, United States Representative from Ohio, tanorexia sufferer, House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi nemesis, and a dick.
In May 2009, weekly tracking polls indicated that Boehner remained the most unpopular politician in the United States, though it is unclear if this statistic factored in his favorability among elderly conservative women or the staff of Jamaica Me Tan in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Boehner spent most of his political career railing against corruption and scandal in Washington, though—ironically—it was a series of Washington scandals that directly resulted in the few professional successes Boehner’s had, including his Congressional seat and House Majority leadership.
Undoubtedly eliciting countless giggles in high school Civics classrooms nationwide, the Congressman’s surname is correctly pronounced “BAY-ner.” Though—fittingly—its phonetic pronunciation is a colloquial term for an erection of the male reproductive organ.
http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=John_Boehner

ksa711

************************* Paladin************************

Thanks ,I just got my 8 bucks worth

mbridges

Federal Reserve works to strip a key mortgage
protection for homeowners – Rescission

http://dailybail.com/home/federal-reserve-works-to-strip-a-key-mortgage-protection-for.html

mbridges
mbridges
mbridges

How Goldman Sachs Hikes Our Food and Oil Prices At Will

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=197135.0

mbridges
mbridges

One Day After Reported Settlement, Florida AG Releases Blistering Must Read Presentation On Fraudclosure

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-florida-attorney-general-foreclosure-2011-1##ixzz1ADDDqJSv

g7enn

BRIEF HISTORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE US AND RUSSIA ACCORDING TO PETER BETER

Professional credentials: The things made public by Dr. Beter areextraordinary–but so is the professional background which preceded his public visibility. He practiced general law in Washington, D.C., from 1951 to 1961, becoming a member of the U.S. Court of Military Appeals in 1952 and the U.S. Supreme Court in 1964.

Three major power groups are struggling today for worldwide influence and power. Like icebergs, they are partially visible but mostly hidden. These groups are the Rockefeller Cartel of big oil, big banking and big business; the Bolshevik-Zionist Axis; and the New Kremlin rulers of Russia.

The relationships among these groups have shifted radically over the past decade or so. The Bolsheviks used to control the Soviet Union, and while theydid there was a secret alliance between them and the Rockefeller Cartel. Butthey have been overthrown and expelled from top levels of power in Russia by the New Kremlin rulers, who are anti-Bolshevik and are, in fact, a secret sect of native Russian Christians. During 1976 and 1977 Russia’s new rulers unilaterally terminated the long-time Rockefeller-Soviet alliance, together with its plans for programmed nuclear war on the way to a “one world” government. The four Rockefeller brothers, then in control of the Rockefeller Cartel,welcomed the expelled Bolsheviks from Russia into positions of power here in the United States. That was a fatal mistake, which led to the overthrow of the four Rockefeller brothers at Bolshevik hands from mid-1978 to early 1979. Since that time there has been a steadily intensifying power struggle between the Bolsheviks here and the regrouped Rockefeller Cartel for control over the U.S. Government. Generally speaking, the Bolsheviks have been getting their way in military affairs, while the Rockefeller Cartel has greater power in the economic realm. Since early 1982, there has been a limited quid pro quo between the Rockefeller Cartel and the New Kremlin against their common bitter enemy, the Bolsheviks. Meanwhile the strong links between the American Bolsheviks and the Zionist rulers of Israel have been forged into a secret joint military junta–the Bolshevik-Zionist Axis–bent on war.

The Bolsheviks who now control the United States Pentagon want to use all these weapons to crush the Soviet Union from which they have been overthrown and expelled. They have devised elaborate plans, detailed in the Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER reports, to set off a nuclear first strike by the United States against Russia. Nuclear “false alarms”, so-called, have been staged in order to test their ability to trigger what will look afterward like accidental nuclear war. American nuclear forces will be led to believe that they are retaliating, instead of striking first.

Politics, economics, and international relations (including war) are constantly used by these world power factions as they struggle with one another. Economic manipulations, covert intelligence maneuvers and a proliferating array of secret weapons are features of this struggle. But as made clear in many of Dr. Beter’s tapes, the basic struggle is a spiritual one.

PETER BETER: HISTORY OF USA & RUSSIA

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

mbridges
mbridges

WikiLeaks: Israel kept Gaza economy ‘on brink’
January 5, 2011

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/01/05/2742415/wikileaks-israel-kept-gaza-economy-on-brink

wovolve42

hutz – thanks for the links you posted on the venus project and James Gilliland –

mbridges

The following article was taken from Maxkeiser`s website:

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Israel’s concentration camp (and profit center). Buffett is also gaining from Israel’s holocaust in Palestine with his investment in Iscar Metal Working
January 5th, 2011 by maxkeiser
Respond

* WikiLeaks: Israel kept Gaza economy ‘on brink’

Did Berkshire Hathaway Just Make $6 Billion?

We won’t know how much Berkshire Hathaway made in Q4 until midway through next month, but rallies in two of Warren Buffett’s stocks may have sent his equity portfolio surging by $6.3 billion, Bloomberg reports.

Barclays thinks massive gains in Bershire’s top holdings – particularly Wells Fargo (23%) and Coca Cola (12%) – may have caused Buffet’s Q4 unrealized net investment gains that could hit $7.2 billion (up from $322 million one year earlier).

There are two big reasons why. 1) Coca Cola and 2) Wells Fargo, which account for more than one third of the assets in Berkshire’s portfolio.

Barclays’ analysts think Berkshire’s book value could have increased by about 6%, with fourth-quarter operating earnings possibly increasing by 43%.

Other stocks that may have pushed the Oracle of Omaha’s portfolio into the stratosphere are railroad Burlington Northern, Israeli toolmaker ISCAR Metalworking and and NetJets.

And now he could be looking at $6 billion. Whew!

Not content with supporting genocide, Warren Buffett’s bank Wells Fargo/Wachovia also supports Mexican drug lords.

U.S. Banks Financing Mexico Drug Gangs Admitted in Wells
Deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLf3ax3Ie9o&feature=player_embedded

http://maxkeiser.com/

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192057

40,000 VELVET SWIMMING CRABS FOUND DEAD ON UK BEACHES; HYPOTHERMIA BLAMED

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192055

BIRDS/HAARP/NEW MADRID

this video is very informative and this guy gives a lot of useful information

darylluke

Then, if this is true, we have Deep Blue posting here under several names for at least a year?

wovolve42

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/341/916/Disorientated_and_wearing_just_one_shoe:_Bizarre_last_sighting_of_top_White_House_aide_found_murdered_and_dumped_in_landfill.html

‘Disorientated and wearing just one shoe’: Bizarre last sighting of top White House aide found murdered and dumped in landfill

Here’s goes the “spin” to deflect the real reason this guy was killed

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/342/008/John_Wheeler:_SEC_Investigations,_Air_Force_UAVs,_Cyber_Security_and_a_Landfill.html

John Wheeler: SEC Investigations, Air Force UAVs, Cyber Security and a Landfill

This article is closer to the truth I suspect

wovolve42

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/341/210/HORROR_FIND:_Hundreds_of_snapper_washed_up_on_the_Coromandel_Peninsula..html

HORROR FIND: Hundreds of snapper washed up on the Coromandel Peninsula.

wovolve42
mikazo654

I normally don’t pay attention to this kind of stuff, but many years ago I read this essay which ties neatly into the subject of AI and computerization. It’s heavily based on Rudolf Steiner’s work. I take an optimistic attitude and don’t fear for the future, but I do wonder if there isn’t some truth to this stuff:

http://www.adventofahriman.com/2010/09/the-advent-of-ahriman-part-one/

mikazo654

Here’s a snippet from the above article:

In the social-cultural sphere, Ahriman’s influence is apparent everywhere, especially strong and growing stronger throughout the Twentieth Century. Chief among the Ahrimanic trends are:

• Antagonistic nationalism based on ethnicity. (Moderate folk-nationalism was a progressive principle in the past, but ethnic nationalism is retrogressive and destructive today.)

• Dogmatic party politics, engendering hatred and bitterness arising from the refusal to see other, equally valid (or invalid) points of view

• The subjugation of cultural life (e.g. medicine, education, research, criminal jurisprudence) to political and economic power

• The mechanization of the political state, bound by rigid laws everywhere, with little place for free human initiative

• In everyday life: Philistinism, tedium, and alienation, lack of interest in one’s work, even in intellectual work (Ahriman wants knowledge to be devoid of warm human interest and connection, to be stored in libraries and not to live in human souls.)

• In medicine: materialistic, mechanistic (and atrocious) experimentalism and treatment, without understanding of the living human individual (The related practice of embalming corpses tends to bind the human entity to earth; this is an Ahrimanic reflection of ancient Egyptian mummification.)

• In social science: blind acceptance of statistics, and the belief that the satisfaction of economic needs by itself will secure human welfare

• In economics: the subjugation of all living and human interests to the inhuman, impersonal mechanism of profit-seeking, to the “artificial person” of the corporation (In the USA this has reached such a state that the humanizing influence of the labor movement is being obliterated, and the exigencies of “making a living”, along with other destructive Ahrimanic trends, are destroying the human family — this in the so-called “richest country in the world”. (A perspicacious American folk-wisdom has coined the phrase “the Almighty Dollar”.) The Ahrimanic “Mammon” is archetypally the god of “filthy lucre” and of the power of money over life, as well as of all low and dark forces; his hosts also attack the human body and soul to corrupt and destroy them.)

• In the Christian religion: narrow, simplistic interpretation of the Gospels, without appreciation for the occult wisdom needed for an approach to the deep mysteries of the Christ Being

• In literature: books inspired directly by Ahriman, works of great intelligence that further Ahriman’s goals (e.g. some parts of Nietzsche’sAntichrist and Ecce Homo)

• In technics: very refined developments, but directed only at satisfying animal needs, promoting human immersion in the sense-world to the exclusion of the supersensible

• In world-view: humans as animals, animals (and all living things) as mechanisms, the non-existence of soul and spirit, and the non-existence of moral reality: amoralism.

hopesprings

Good night all:

I really had to catch up. Dead to the world.

I think the most important thing in this thread is the common theme on dying species all over the world–presented mostly by Wovolve and exposed by Paladin (John Wheeler murder).

This a real anomaly in our world. We need to get to the bottom of this. Something is truly wrong at this very moment.

Hopefully John Wheeler told someone what he knew.

Real Pal’s White Hat Report above to prime the pump.

We posted the Report at http://ProjectAwake.wordpress.com .

Good night all!

mbridges

Carbon offsets and carbon offsetting fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEPUxE2uIw&feature=related

andybev1

normally we get stories without any hard facts or predictions that come true- which we should if ben is in the position he says he is. not only that but we are now being read the back story from terminator. I started paying to get the so-called news from this site, as I am sure most of us did, on the strength of bens project Camelot interview where he seemed 100% genuine but it seems he is too far above making even a fleeting visit to his own site to answer questions on the news he has come up with. considering his reports are getting shorter and the time between th longer this should not be too much of a stretch. I am in two minds now whether to believe him after this latest walter mitee musings.
BEN, you really need to come and have a dialogue with your paying public as we deserve more than this.

I for one am considering pulling the plug, not because I want to but because I starting to feel disallusioned about where your ‘reports’ are going. I have learned more from the readers that have put up links with their stories than from your last few reports.

mackenzie

This is interesting but isn’t anything new. The ‘Greys’ have been spoken about being biological robots for many, many years (they would need AI to function).

Alex Collier also talked about the fact that many of our leaders have been cloned, with their brains ‘replaced’ with a biological/AI chip that has stored memories. This is one reason a lot of the leaders are very cold, calculating, extremely intelligent (look at the rothschilds, kissinger, soros etc) but lack emotion. David Icke also talks about this, the ‘black eyes’.

Watch interviews for example of saudi foreign minister Prince Saud al-Faisal to see how unemotional and computer like he is.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1217896n
There’s no doubt in my mind that this guy is not human – there are many others (ex-pres jimmy carter is often spoken about as being a clone with AI).

hopesprings

One more…

I think the cabal have the ability to destroy any organism or object if tuned to the right frequency. I think the dying off of specific bird and fish species are finely-tune HAARP hits. Tests for something else. Also putting fear in the head of state.

The cabal has almost everyone’s DNA stored from birth…and collected with blood drawn over time. Notwithstanding, most species. What is this a test for? Humans, food source, injected minions?

They could orchestrate wiht HAARP a natural cataclysm as a cover and an additional race specific hit for a mass culling. The next false flag?

Here is a little tid bit from stevequayle.com to chew on:

Bird And Fish Die-Offs Target Single Race Species Maybe Energetics Weapons Can Fine Tune DNA Frequencies To That Degree

January 5, 2010
TT

Dear Steve;

A caller to the Power Hour mentioned something that seems quite significant. Only ONE species of bird and fish seems to have been targeted in the recent event. Well, we already know that “they” have been working on race specific bio-weapons for years. Might “they” also be able to fine tune their energetics weapons to zap only a particular race/species? How about combining that with the bio-weapons technology? We know to avoid their vaccines like the plague, pardon the pun…, and you mentioned one of their plans being to kill us off with their vaccine combined with a later epidemic. What if their energetics weapons can target something in the vaccines, or something that results from the vaccines?

Anyway, they seem to be able to zap specific frequencies of DNA, down to the subspecies, meaning their attacks on humans could be race specific…And this could be tied to bio-weapons, possibly targeting those who have been duped into taking the vitamin M injection.

andybev1

As for computers becing self aware, I found this, whichbsuggedtsbwe should bevokbjust now.

human brain has about 100 million million neurons, and those neurons have thousands of connections (synapses). IF we say that what makes a computer self-aware is complexity then lets do the math. In an artificial network, and synapses can be simulated by a point number. 4 bytes of computer RAM. Now to reach the number of bytes in a computer that would be equal in power to the human brain, we would need 8 million million Gigabytes. RAM is computer has increased by a factor of 10 every 4 years. If RAM keeps upgrading at the same pace, computers will have the equivalent of 8 million million Gigabytes in the year 2029. But a computer cannot think for itself. It does only what it is instructed to do by programmes and must stay within laws created by those programmes.

sierra

Food Poisoning Scandal in Germany is Much Bigger than Feared:

Dioxin scandal worse than initially feared

A report from Germany’s Agriculture Ministry has revealed that up to 3,000 tons of an animal feed additive contains traces of the poisonous dioxin. The discovery has triggered calls to reevaluate food safety rules.

Up to 3,000 tons of an animal feed additive has been found to contain traces of dioxin, according to a report from the German Agriculture Ministry obtained by the news agency dpa on Wednesday.

The poisonous chemical, linked to the development of cancer in humans, was discovered in eggs and poultry in several German states last week, and it is believed it was introduced in animal feed contaminated with industrial fats.

UPDATE:

3000 tonnes of animal feed additive poisoned with dioxin is enough to contaminate 150,000 tonnes of animal food when mixed in together with it, according to the German media.

136,000 eggs exported to The Netherlands alone could be contaminated with dioxin.

It is not clear how the company could have added dioxin to animal feed. Police and state prosecutors are investigating.

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/food-poisoning-scandal-in-germany-is-much-bigger-than-feared/

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Sierra

HMMM… Talk about “green eggs and ham” . Perhaps Dr. Seuss was involved with this one!

fedora

Ben,

As time goes on you demonstrate what a great journalist you really are. Based upon the history of previous statements made by you and your thoughts towards certain subjects it is nice to see you are an active skeptic. Not a true believer, not an ultra-skeptic, but a person who is willing to examine new evidence ignoring personal comfort zones in order to get to the truth. I applaud you sir. Domo arigato.

kharma

Funny, I haven’t seen David Wilcock’s name in these comments at all these past few weeks.

hutz777

The call last Sunday to give newbies information can be accessed by dialing 712-432-1085 and use PIN number 609526#
call it …..understand

hutz777

For recruiting purposes it would be best to send them to The call last Sunday to give newbies information can be accessed by dialing 712-432-1085 and use PIN number 609526#
Live free or Die…………..Save your children from slavery
RuSA.Restored united States of america. We are recognized in 127 countries and making compacts with 27 countries now.

wbstreck

Hi BEN – You floored us wth his AI compueter malignincy. If there was such hing as a Computer ID, the Satanic PTB would want to control it, for sure. We could break the internt oreintator backbone, ‘as is’ and switch to another Internet system encrptyed, and designed to magneticaly kick-back unapproved formating, programming disciplines and bounce-back EMF terminator pulses towards intruder, blowing their out their entire infrastructure.
We need to keep on focus AND CONCENTRATE ON REMOVING TPTB

mbridges

Who resisted the Nazis – and who helped

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/999.html

spaghettid

Kharma I think D Wilcock has had enough of being battered by some folks here.

ugmmichael

When the flood tides of human adversity… beat about the mortal soul, you may rest in the assurance that there is one inner bastion, the citadel of the spirit, which is absolutely unassailable…

mbridges

Action Alert—Now the FDA Is Going After Vitamin C!
January 4, 2011

http://www.anh-usa.org/action-alert-now-the-fda-is-going-after-vitamin-c/

sierra

Is DHS A Private, Offshore Corporation Also?

It took nearly a hundred years, and tremendous effort, to create a public awareness that the Federal Reserve was not Federal, but a private, offshore corporation – a branch of the Central Bank of Europe.

And for a Federal Reserve Chairman to acknowledge this publically ­ as Alan Greenspan did in stating during his now famous TV interview “Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency and that means, basically, that there is no other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take.”
….more…

But what about the Department of Homeland Security ­ is it too a rogue agency in our midst and out of our control?

There are over 70 DHS Fusion Centers in the U.S. that the spokesman in the Denver center says “are all managed separately.”

Additionally, there a at least that many identifiable Private Military Companies (PMCs) operating in the U.S.

If the Fusion Centers are all managed separately, and the Federal Government is not managing or overseeing these operations, then who is?

And who is managing and overseeing the private military companies? And who is funding them? And to what end?

….more….
http://www.rense.com/general92/dhsprv.htm

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Sierra

Malia6

Dr. Bill Deagle on control of Food Supply, Gulf evacuation and China :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06cXa2RCyGA

ugmmichael

G7enn; In Re: 1/6@10:05am
Thank you for posting; PETER BETER: HISTORY OF USA & RUSSIA
http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

His background was unimpeachable, and his presentations were superb. Highly respected throughout the world. He was a true believer in the teachings of Jesus the Christ and protected by his Guardians of Grace from the many threats on his life. I have his rare complete set of all his audio letters. It’s one thing to read his messages, but nothing compares to hearing his audio letters. He was a dynamic speaker. I played them live on public radio as soon as I received them.

Once again, I thank you for keeping his spirit alive in this day and age wherein he did provide the finial presentation of what is really happening behind-the-scenes.

Always in Life and Light

ugmmichael

Mackenzie; In Re: 1/6, @ 12:30 pm

All world leaders or those in position of power, not willing to change for the betterment of mankind when confronted with their terrible deeds, have been removed and replaced with doubles. Changed to biological robot-like creature with computer like brains. Can bleed cut of wound, sing on key, total recall of all cellular memory patterns being able to remember old friends and acquaintances, perfect in every detail and manners as a real human being. But they are not human, period. Man had the ability to perfectly construct (in a matter of minutes) these soulless creatures years ago. Today, they are everywhere. Yes, they have very slight flaws and can be detected if you know what to look for. They truly are amazing creatures. Perfect weapons of war. And we are at war!!!

http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal45.html See Topic #2

http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal47.html See Topic #1

http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal48.html See Topic #2

http://www.peterdavidbeter.com/docs/all/dbal51.html See Topic #3

Further details on how, where and why, these creatures were and are now being used is provided within the topic.

Respectfully.

positivechange
positivechange

I have to agree with the comment by Gus concerning AI.

One additional thing does come to my mind. It is possible that the computer trading programs based on AI that are running the financial system could collapse the system if unplugged.

The question is whether this is actually a problem of the programs or an underlying vulnerability of the (detached) model they are based upon? Well, then it’s back to the drawing board.

kohala889

On the subject of artificial intelligence (AI):

It is a fairly widely known fact that most if not all galactic motherships are sentient beings with the mission and purpose of serving their crew. Some have actually remained in service for millions of years. Whether or not they have a soul is an interesting question. Probably not as we understand the concept.

http://www.popmartian.com/mcelwaine/7th-coming/30_plus/Update%20Messages%20From%20The%20REAL%20Galactic%20Federation/sentient.txt

ugmmichael

Kohala; In Re: 1/5, @ 3:39 pm

Yes, the Russians are really the Good Guys on this planet. Dr. Beter was informed by the Russians to inform the masses here in America and what they would do to verify the situation. When I received the information from Beter I released same immediately via my live radio program. The whole town knew where, when, who, and why. There was only a few who saw the TV video of the three consecutive particle beam blast form the craft. It was played only once. I never had a chance to follow-up on it. Did not personally know the individual (one person) who took the video, nor am I aware where this video is today. Yes, it would be great to procure the complete video, as I was informed later that the video was shown again but the first part of the film was removed, only showing the aftermath from the explosion, not showing the clear three lighting like strikes then the complete whole side of the volcano being blown out and away. Really inc readable video.

My wife and I witnessed a clear view of a cosmosphere cruising over the city of Ketchikan, Alaska as we were walking home that evening at dusk. The lights on the upper deck looked like a big city, but when the craft was directly overhead all under carriage lights were off showing a large black triangle against the clear night sky with stars. We witnessed it from horizon to horizon. This was the first time for my wife to see a real space craft. She was very impressed, to say the least.

Respectfully yours.

ugmmichael

Yes Kohala, I agree. The galactic mother-ships are literally born with intelligence with self programing. They do not have a soul however.

asha4u

Thanx to Ben by opening the window, a relieving fresh wind brought (back) in acerzw as well as enriching and inspiring views by comments of Vojta, jkiipli, metaphy, myfreaky, bstavely, jimmymacnormal1, willers777, emovius, fleximan5 and samw…

What a great turn in quality and spirit this forum now is undergoing!

Re: Comment by jkiipli on January 6, 2011 @ 2:05 am
As I haven’t read John Lili’s book which U mentioned: The call must have happened in the mid ’80s. Is that correct?

Re: Comment by Gus on January 6, 2011 @ 5:33 am
it is below what Monroe called the “belief system territories”

Re: Comment by trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 6:59 am
As there are so many highly intelligent entities and races in the universe who lack any kind of emotions, then why the hell minerals with low level consciousness should have them?

PS: I still am missing Atzdimagnetico

positivechange
positivechange

kohala and ugmmichael,

if humanity wants to do some planet hopping it would probably be benficial to have the same principles as in the galactic mother ships (never seen one but it makes sense) in place for systems on earth as well as beyond?

kuuleimomi

*************** XL 1/5 10:35P on Ben’s 1/4 Post ***********

Copied your post, literally, to My Documents Folder. There is someone who has seen the original Mu, he uses this gift to verify others who have said they know what Mu looked like before it went down. Our core group intend to build Hawaiti City on the island of Kauai since the ceremony has taken place. I’ve seen the drawing plans. I believe (and he’s not saying) it is what Mu looked like. I’ve also seen the location where it will be built, just like the drawing plans. Remember now, what goes down can come up and it sure looks as though someone is pushing the envelope on this, but it’s not this someone on Kauai that’s doing it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Also, I agree with your 1/6 2:05A and trygve 1/6 5:20A posting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
E Aloha Malama Pono!

mikazo654

kuuleimomi

What do you suspect Mu was like? Are there any decent books or information about the subject? I’m not quite sure where to look.

tblkacs

Has any of you read this before?

Underground Bases, Missing Children and Extra-Terrestrials
What You Need to Know for Your Future
July 4, 2006

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/future.htm

To what degree could this be true?

It´s certainly not in contradiction with Phil Schneider´s last testimony from 1996 (before the pure guy was “suicided”)

There´s really lot of info in it making clear even why (possibly) the Sorcha Faal website exists:

“There is currently an internal war raging in the global intelligence community regarding the alien agenda. This is between negative and positive factions. From my understanding one of the main negative factions is a group centred around MI6 and the CIA called ‘Aquarius‘. This group is covering up the truth, blatantly lying and discrediting or murdering anyone who gets too close to exposing what is going on. There is also a positive group centred around naval intelligence called ’Comm 12’ which is leaking accurate information regarding the alien agenda into the public arena.

When the missile (not plane) hit the pentagon on 9-11, it hit the naval intelligence section of the building. This was part of the internal war between Aquarius and Comm 12 being played out.”

We know Sorcha is not the “Russian GRU”, but Office of Naval Intelligence in reality. But probably few of us suspect why would an intelligence organization like this leak some of the biggest secrets of the (k)Illuminati.

trygve

Comment by asha4u on January 6, 2011 @ 7:03 pm

As there are so many highly intelligent entities and races in the universe who lack any kind of emotions, then why the hell minerals with low level consciousness should have them?

You see, AI have a really hard time understanding the meaning of irony, sarcasm and the concept of context.

So in your understanding, why are you hurting and terrorizing so many particles around you?
Why should you not expect other more conscious particles working together to get even with you?

Are these your thoughts or did you just accept acerzw and XL views as the truth, or as Ben says automatic group thinking/ behavior?

Ben is correct about this group think, I can see it in this blog, but his conclusions is wrong.

Are you a group thinker or do you have a deep understanding of these conscious soul particles?

kuuleimomi

****** metaphy 1/6 12:10A *****

An open mind is a must, I exercise this 24/7 to stay sane these days, plus, I have one of those disturbed ones in my office. I get a lot of practice time with this one, and I’m getting better, removing me from her space and excess baggage. Practicality is next. And last, but not least, stay in the “now”, this very moment and rely on your past life’s experience before all this “hit the fan” to guide your decisions. You came this far, so you already have what it takes. Besides, in agreement with XL and Kohala, do you think they have the capacity, interest or time to deal with your past experiences? I think not ….. boring, tried and true as your saving grace (your experiences). They’re suppose to be advance intelligent beings, but I believe they are a dying breed too anxious to get on with it. Now it’s beginning to make sense to “go with the flow” rather than push for advancement or even abandon any project when it hasn’t happened. They are looking to survive this one expeditiously. Time may be running out on them, instead. That’s right, nai, time is running out for TPTB, how sweet it is.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi

******* mdreinke 1/6 12:18A *******

That’s what I mean (smile).

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi

****** Rafael 1/6 4:20A ******

The same with those who feel you should have “your own” child before you can qualify to care for someone elses. You don’t need experience, you need compassion, the rest come naturally, it’s a “learning experience” not a learned experience.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi

***** guac77 1/6 6:54A ******

Interesting post. Will copy and paste to My Documents. Will check it out later

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi

****** darylluk 1/6 11:23A ******

Could be.

****** sierra 1/6 1:19A *******

Cute, “green eggs and ham”, sure looks like it. And who better to impress with this then with the children. It’s all about the children? Just speculating.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

kuuleimomi

****** ugmmichael 1/6/ 6:01P *******

I know some who has seen many FO’s in the island skies of Kauai. For instances, the large black triangle you saw confirms what my cousin and his oldest son witnessed on Kauai when they were night fishing. It was a “rainbow colored triangle”. I’m forwarding your post to my cousin on Kauai. I don’t know if he knows the history of IFO’s especially regarding what you and your wife witnessd. He knew it was a flying object, but now it has a clearer ID.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

tblkacs

**** kuuleimomi on January 6, 8:12 pm ****

The large black triangles can also be TR-3Bs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsZRc-cdGw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.tr-3b.com/

kuuleimomi

***** trygve 1/6 6:59A *******

For what it’s worth for now until you hear more from the first people of Hawaiti (soon to be released). Our kanaka maoli was created from the soil (dirt), then the spirit blew it’s breath “Ha” (breathed) onto the image of man out of dirt and man came to life. And, yes, the first woman was created out of the rib of the male, which explains why the males have one less rib. Flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone. The foreigners (haole) do not have this (ha) breath of life, they are spiritless. And, thus, you have ashes unto ashes, dust onto dust after the soul, spirit leaves the body. The body becomes ashes or dust from whence we came.

The spirit will never be exterminated, it can never die, long live Ka Uhane Hemolele.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

positivechange
positivechange

Trygve,

“You see, AI have a really hard time understanding the meaning of irony, sarcasm and the concept of context.”

Yes and if AI isn’t based on love and compassion it is built to fail. It’s a function so to say. Therefore, we have lots of things and systems going wrong. Shit happens, I guess.

kuuleimomi

****** tblkacs 1/6 8:22A ******

Caught a glimpse of your post as I logged out and decided to comment before I turn in, it’t now 1/6 1:41A in Hawaii.

I viewed the video. I’ll need to see if that is what my cousin saw, but I don’t think so. He saw the rainbow in the shape of a triangle, still it could be one and the same. However, when viewing the video, at the end the TR-3B became a sphere of light, that is what the mystery was about the “Three Sun’s” in China’s skies. It was two TR-3B.

I’m going to view the TR-3B you tube video now. Goodmorning and will check back tomorrow.

E Aloha Malama Pono!

trygve

kuuleimomi on January 6, 2011 @ 8:26 pm


The spirit will never be exterminated, it can never die

Yes I totally agree with you.
My point is matter or call it dirt is not consciousness, it can be transformed, destroyed.

All human bodies can be destroyed unto ashes, dust, dirt, so can they be created from ashes, dust, dirt.
But any physical form is temporary, while soul as you say is eternal, so a body is merely an empty shell inhabited by a living soul.
How that soul came in to the body is another discussion.
The body is merely a tool for the living spirit soul so it can interact with this physical world.

If soul is eternal it also means it can not be created, destroyed or else it would not be eternal.

I’m not arguing there can be soulless shell with a mind, but that is not living human.

Those who says a particle is a conscious aware soul, how small can a particle be, where is the limit, atoms, electrons, neutrons, quarks, where is the soul limitation, can you be degraded down to E=mc^2 ?

XL

Re: Comment by kuuleimomi on January 6, 2011 @ 7:36 pm
>There is someone who has seen the original Mu, he uses
>this gift to verify others who have said they know what
>Mu looked like before it went down.
That would be interesting to learn more about this, is there any online reference that person would recommend as being accurate information on Mu? I do not believe I have any ties to Mu myself, but it does play an important role in the history of this planet.

>Our core group intend to build Hawaiti City on the
>island of Kauai since the ceremony has taken place.
You have mentioned this several times now, is there a reference to what you guys are up to? It sounds intriguing.

XL

Re: Comment by kuuleimomi on January 6, 2011 @ 8:26 pm
>For what it’s worth for now until you hear more from the
>first people of Hawaiti (soon to be released). Our kanaka
>maoli was created from the soil (dirt), then the spirit
>blew it’s breath “Ha” (breathed) onto the image of man
>out of dirt and man came to life. And, yes, the first
>woman was created out of the rib of the male, which
>explains why the males have one less rib. Flesh of my
>flesh, bone of my bone.

This sounds exactly like the Adam/Eve story, which seems to be predominant in many cultures. The part about males having one less rib though is just a myth, you can look at the human skeleton for proof on that one. Both male and female have 12 pairs of ribs.

metaphy

Something I wish to add is that we have been brainwashed into thinking it is necessary to constantly use antennae

ie – mobile phones, biometric passports, pda’s and the like

We are all connected by wireless circuitry these days, and the true effects of EM radiation patterns on human cells is not public knowledge.

I have heard that there are cells in the brain that act similarly like antennae when exposed to the correct EM frequencies (see the voice in head thing above – this uses these).

It is all too possible that being connected to this wireless grid leaves us unknowingly at the mercy of TPTB. I personally try to distance myself from my mobile phone as much as I can but it is unfortunate that in today’s society they have become a total necessity.

Do you ever sense your phone, and then it rings or you recieve a text ? I know I and others do, not intentionally, but almost by accident. This to me proves that we sense EM frequencies unconsciously. With all the wireless transmission around us today (it makes me sick thinking about the waves passing through all of us as I write) we are at the mercy of electrical currents.

Electrical currents are all (apart from battery powered thing) drawn from the same source, and this source (the National Grid in the UK) is naturally controlled, mediated and regulated by TPTB. All our homes are connected, and by having such antennae we are ourselves connected.

Another concern is that social networking sites are almost replacing face-to-face communication, meaning that all comms between friends, business’s, anything that uses electrical communication, can be (and no doubt is) tracked, recorded, studied and the data is stored and used for purposes beyond our control.

For me these are serious concerns, but personally i see no long term future in the way things are going.

Please do not worry your pretty head, worry and fear are destructive.

Just be aware that you may be at the mercy of electro-magnetic waves, and as always DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING !!! (completely)

Follow your intuition – follow what makes your heart sing.
Love Life and everything in it because we are all one
🙂

metaphy

trygve –

Bruce Cathie completed Einsteins Unified Field Theory using geometric harmonics.

Gravity and Light (plus contiuum) are harmonic reciprocals of each other.
(probably doesn’t mean much to you at this time, all I can advise is read Cathie – 3rd book onwards as he has personally advised)

I love the point you have made there !
technically, we are all the fractal expression of the geometric relationships between the fundamental forces.

But were these relationships created by something somewhere that doesn’t follow the physical rules we have in this universe?

haha big can of worms 😉

Always rememeber – have faith in the spiritual.

Do not praise the forces as they were god.
big no no hehe 🙂

much love

XL

Re: Comment by trygve on January 6, 2011 @ 9:19 pm
>Those who says a particle is a conscious aware soul,
>how small can a particle be, where is the limit, atoms,
>electrons, neutrons, quarks, where is the soul limitation,
>can you be degraded down to E=mc^2 ?

I’ve had mixed results on my research into this area. The concensus seem to be that there appears to be some sort of soul evolution also, where they incarnate as 1D (Rocks/Minerals), then 2D (Plants/Animals), then 3D (Human/Intelligent life form), and then on up… But I don’t quite follow how all that works, considering that I have also heard that some souls were created at the 3D level to start with for one reason or another.

Other than that though, I can say with some certainty that all things are living, because all are energy. Whether these tiny particles and such have a soul attached or not I do not know for certain yet. Whether a soul is conscious or not at certain levels is also not clear.

metaphy

hopesprings – 🙂 🙂 🙂

I am always in awe at your immense knowledge – you really are a head !

I would love to meet you and pick your brain ! probably impossible i imagine but a nice thought none the less 🙂

Love the post about using the DNA molecule as an antennae for specific frequency, i personally believe from the research I have carried out that this is all too true and so possible you can pretty much rule out it not happening.

If they can, you can bet your bottom dollar they will !!

Disturbing stuff !!!

All i can say is that the HAARP machine is an electrical device, and therefore can be turned off.

I can’t wait to see good prevail and the evil thing be dismantled !!!!

Destroying the power supply would be a great act of protest ! I think someone needs to hack the control and render the f****r useless. Or just sabotage the power source. I guess it has it’s own source, if only I was Rambo….!

much love

jsanta

Good Morning all,
Epiphany anyone?

Ugmmichael, Thanks for input last week on Jesus etc. excellent. (still have tab open to read:)

Rafael too, have two tabs of the Law on One open still! I am working on the sexual energy transfer now as that one applies to me at the moment!

My wife has had a gift for many years and is begining to understand a little of it now. She could “see” what she called energy from things – all things. Especially trees. I however cannot but rather “go with the flow” if it FEELS right.

She also receives “messages” on and off and recently this morning received that we are entering the “Tempest of Times”. She was told to read Kings 2 Chapter 7, Ruth Chapter 2 vs 7 and Revelations 2 vs 7. AMAZING stuff comes together. Now, understand we are not bible verse memorizing Christians. So she couldn’t have put these together this quickly.

Another interesting message was that we would be “crucified” but not like Jesus on a cross but rather the Christ within would be crucified. I need some of your input on this one.

Lastly, she received that we would gain in notariety (sp), so as to help others who did not know about the “Christ Within”.

Blessings.

XL

Re: Comment by metaphy on January 6, 2011 @ 11:06 pm
>I can’t wait to see good prevail and the evil thing be dismantled !!!!

Remember, just like other death-dealing devices (handguns, for example) the device itself is not evil, the users of it are.

That particular device also has a lot of potential for good, if they chose to use it that way. Think of how useful a device would be that could destroy diseases world-wide!

XL

Re: Comment by jsanta on January 6, 2011 @ 11:30 pm
>Another interesting message was that we would be “crucified”
>but not like Jesus on a cross but rather the Christ within
>would be crucified. I need some of your input on this one.

This is a topic that is vitally important to the existance of Christianity. You have to learn what the “Christ” actually is. I’ve been hinting at this to a lot of people for months now, but very few have picked up on this vitally important topic.

It is not what almost all Christains think it is… Read the first 17 verses of Matthew closely to start on the journey.

jsanta

XL,
Thanks too! I almost forgot your input last week. I will be going to a Florida County Republic Meeting tonight to see how I can help with that process here. Lots happening.

jsanta

Yes XL, I have studied Joel Goldsmith’s Infinite Way for many years and agree.

It just came to me how it may come (crucifixion).
For those who know that “Christ is Within” they will be the targets by the “Chistians” for Blasphemy.

It ties in with being “Aware” of oneself. The One that is aware is the God Within.
“You will do these things, and more!”

XL

Re: Comment by jsanta on January 6, 2011 @ 11:44 pm
>It just came to me how it may come (crucifixion).
>For those who know that “Christ is Within” they will
>be the targets by the “Chistians” for Blasphemy.
>It ties in with being “Aware” of oneself. The One
>that is aware is the God Within.
>“You will do these things, and more!”

That theory resonates strongly with me, I think you might be on to something. Keep in touch, you have my Skype address.

I believe that your mission and mine are very similar…

casar1973

Self aware computer? This is nonsense, this guy fundamentally lacks discernment. I don´t see myself paying to read this sort of rubbish.

gingerlynn

Yall be careful talking about christians on this site, I got my ass chewed out for it.

They still seem to think that jesus is going to float down out of the clouds and save them, they haven’t figured out that the saviour is within. shhhhh 🙁

jsanta

Hey Gingerlynn,
Yep.

but! Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.

XL – Will do!

rebecca

ugmMichael,re: Cosmospheres

From “The Dulce Wars” by Branton page 137. A quote from Phil Schneider’s ex-wife:

“After the space shuttle, Challenger, exploded, I visited Philip in his apartment. He had a large chalk board with complicated formulas which proved that a ‘cosmosphere’ had shot down the space shuttle.”

rebecca

Thursday, January 06, 2011
Become alert, responsible, a warrior – not a robot. This will bring infinite possibilities.
~ Dr. Pillai

Has this guy been reading this blog? 😉

XL

Re: Comment by gingerlynn on January 7, 2011 @ 12:51 am
>Yall be careful talking about christians on this site,
>I got my ass chewed out for it.
>They still seem to think that jesus is going to float
>down out of the clouds and save them, they haven’t
>figured out that the saviour is within. shhhhh

Yep, silly me, I keep poking at that sore spot… *grin*

I keep praying that once they stop “worshiping” Jesus, and start “listening” to him instead they will start to understand, and a lightbulb will go on in their head.

Showing people the truth about their belief system is hard though. They don’t want to listen, they’ll fight it with everything they got. I don’t blame them, nobody wants to be told everything they have ever learned is a lie, especially deeply religious people.

Like I said before, there are different levels of awakening. Many people have woken up and started to understand their government is lying to them, now they need to take the next step.

casar1973

It doesn´t take a genius to see why the bird/fish thing happened. There were two gigantic oil leaks this year, the BP one and one disaster in China. I think they were co-opted, you don´t have two leaks at the same time Goldman Sachs drop 44% of their BP stocks in a realistic reality.

The immense consequences of those leaks affects the entire organisation of species. With this new imprint, their memory upon which they navigate and communicate, disintegrates, since they can not parse this new toxic environment as easily. Since everything interrelates in nature, this is no rocket science, it is a matter of simple cause and effect, although of vast proportions.

I certainly don´t think we have seen the final prices for these oil leaks yet, unless they come up with something spectacular to cleanse the systems, and transmute bad energy.

metaphy

Cheers XL

i must say i overlooked that !
although i do have my reservations, i think things should be left alone and not interfered with by electromagnetic radiation.

I have read that diseases are in a way helpful for DNA developement and other things, like virus’s carry messages that can be learned by the body (probably just a “spiritual” way of explaining our immune systems)

Do we think (if we believe in past-life theory) that one could live a life as a virus ???

has anyone read dolores canon ?

we live lives as squirrels, dolphins, cats, why not viruses and bacteria?

metaphy

casar1973

orgone energy could transmute this stuff.

some kind of specialised cloud buster, an ocean buster maybe.

check out Ron Heath rhwebco

his breeze’s are seriously powerful.

can make a rank glass of water taste amazin

aztimagnetiko

Asha4u,
I am here. I have been a bit busy lately. Thank you for thinking of me.

–Azti

merek

Mikazo….regarding your Question ,2 books or more are available :
“the Lost continent of Mu…Col James Churchward”
and” The Sacred Symbols of Mu…Col James Churchward”
Amazon Books has them in stock.

casar1973

At the risk of sounding overly simplistic or obvious, the fallout and end result of these spills must to my wit be anticipated to be both more far-reaching than presently imagined and unclear as to scope for many years to come. ‘

Both the magnitude of the disasters and the ongoing responses and effects are presently underestimated by the majority of the scientific community. This is, in a way, understandable, as the events are unprecedented in human history — previous spills did not occur in heavily populated areas, and the Gulf is a central oceanic pivot point, essentially affecting a vastly larger section of the planet’s total oceans than the area of the Gulf itself. But this underestimation is also naïve and reflects a misperception regarding the ocean’s existence as a single, united supraorganism.

merek

Mikazo 654…another Mu reference :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent)

hopesprings

Hello Everyone:

I am here for a just twinkle of an eye!

Don’t worry guys I won’t “chew you out ;-)” for your mentions on Jesus. No worries Gingerlynn. But in fairness, none of us Christians here spend time mocking all of you in aerie fairy ideas. I have irrepressible faith in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and shall til my last breath–just to give Him even a small amount of lip service here. AND DON’T BE GIVING ME A TIRADE ABOUT MY FAITH. I keep my shut while you wax about your atheism and esoterica. So hush. Mutual respect must govern us here.

OK NOW TO DEAL WITH GEO-POLITICS!! BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THIS BLOG IS ABOUT!!

Metaphy: Thanks love. Flattery is…well…I accept humbly.

YES HAARP can tune in to any frequency and there are gads of them. Everything has a specific frequency. Geologists use to use tomography to read whether there was oil or gas beneath the ground. Now they can go 1,000 feet down and read specifically what is there–SPECIFICALLY. Anything and everything.

(Makes me wonder if that’s why DUMBS tend to be 1,000 feet below…musing)

Anyway YES they can tune to your frequency, to mine, yours and zero in to a small area as human space, a region, a whole nation. Tesla claimed it could slice the earth in two.
I have even read it can disturb the sun–YES, I have red that with the right power it can reach the sun.

HAARP is the WME, “Weapon of Mass Extinction”–word I coined. I have interviewed key players, and read books on this.

The elite gargoyles call it Weather Weapons. That is a fact; but, it is also a distraction. In fact, it is the ultimate kill weapon.

Look for biowarfare or weather events with NO survivors. HAARP triggered natural cataclysms as a cover; but truly, HAARP tuned to human DNA for genocide. Both executed on the heels of the other.

The bird-fish test in disparate nations is a CAUSE FOR CONCERN. You guys want to keep yappin about esoteric stuff, knock yourself out. Me, I want to chase the PTB, like “a fat boy on smartie”–to stop them from annihilating any members of our beautiful human race–even those who are “sitting down cross-legged humming incantations, facing the sun, waiting to ascend into the aerie place”.

I’ll be co-piloting an F16 with Pal, Wo and T. Anybody want to join us? 😉 I dream….

In the meantime, I plan on “serving coffee to kool-aid drinkers” until they are awake. Help us wake-up the great masses to our geo-political reality PLEASE!

Visit http://ProjectAwake.wordpress.com

Just sayin…

TTFN

mbridges

Keiser Report: United States and the Deathly Deficit (E110)

“Max and Stacy talk about the scandals of the US deficit ceiling insanity defense and about the US diplomats acting as a Boeing sales force. In the second half, Max talks to J.S. Kim about game theory and gold standards.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzOoiOpQaA&feature=player_embedded

merek

Mikazo 654…..MU was where the Monster “Dagalra” was created in the film ,”Rebirth of Mothra” The first of the series was the famous “Godzilla”.
As Godzilla savaged Tokyo,
the scientist monitoring the destruction uttered these famous words:
” Godzilla can destroy whole World ,Maybe even USA!”

Regarding the Illumanati,
Where is Godzilla or Mothra when we need them, they could evn keep the “Space Brothers”
off planet.
Sorry ,I couldn’t resist……….

hutz777

I predict that soon all the controversy over Christ will end . I see no problem in looking farther than the bible for truth . However like bible study I don’t have the time . I never really trusted the bible .but I have more respect for ti now than ever . It can be taken so many ways . Personally I am waiting for His return however that may . and all religions are no more .I wish all believers in Christ could love each other and get along .
God bless everyone on this Day God gave us .
Hutz

acerzw

So many interesting comments on here, wish I had the time to join in more, being in the UK and having to deal with real-life and work can be a real chore!

acerzw

Time difference is a pain too…

hutz777
merek

CHEMTRAILS, Here you go:
“The following patents are all verifiable, along with additional information that can be found by reading the referrenced patents included in the documentation. Patent information can be found by visiting the

United States Patent and Trademark Office
and
Free Patents Online

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1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists
1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft
1631753 – June 7, 1927 – Electric Heater – Referenced in 3990987
1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs
1892132 – December 27, 1932 – Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts
1928963 – October 3, 1933 – Electrical System And Method
1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment
2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture
2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator

2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device
2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather
2510867 – October 9, 1951 – Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation
2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
2591988 – April 8, 1952 – Production of TiO2 Pigments – Referenced in 3899144
2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator
2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987
2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987
2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields
2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator – Referenced in 3990987
3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions

3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System

3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding Apparatus
3338476 – August 29, 1967 – Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers – Referenced in 3990987
3410489 – November 12, 1968 – Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump
3429507 – February 25, 1969 – Rainmaker
3432208 – November 7, 1967 – Fluidized Particle Dispenser
3441214 – April 29, 1969 – Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds
3445844 – May 20, 1969 – Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System
3456880 – July 22, 1969 – Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere
3518670 June 30, 1970 – Artificial Ion Cloud
3534906 – October 20, 1970 – Control of Atmospheric Particles
3545677 – December 8, 1970 – Method of Cloud Seeding
3564253 – February 16, 1971 – System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas
3587966 – June 28, 1971 – Freezing Nucleation
3601312 – August 24, 1971 – Methods of Increasing The Likelihood oF Precipatation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region
3608810 – September 28, 1971 – Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions
3608820 – September 20, 1971 – Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein
3613992 – October 19, 1971 – Weather Modification Method
3630950 – December 28, 1971 – Combustible Compositions For Generating Aerosols, Particularly Suitable For Cloud Modification And Weather Control And Aerosolization Process
USRE29142 – This patent is a reissue of patent US3630950 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
3659785 – December 8, 1971 – Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material
3666176 – March 3, 1972 – Solar Temperature Inversion Device
3677840 – July 18, 1972 – Pyrotechnics Comprising Oxide of Silver For Weather Modification Use
3722183 – March 27, 1973 – Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere
3769107 – October 30, 1973 – Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke
3784099 – January 8, 1974 – Air Pollution Control Method
3785557 – January 15, 1974 – Cloud Seeding System
3795626 – March 5, 1974 – Weather Modification Process
3808595 – April 30, 1974 – Chaff Dispensing System
3813875 – June 4, 1974 – Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmopsphere
3835059 – September 10, 1974 – Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore
3835293 – September 10, 1974 – Electrical Heating Aparatus For Generating Super Heated Vapors – Referenced in 3990987
3877642 – April 15, 1975 – Freezing Nucleant
3882393 – May 6, 1975 – Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere
3896993 – July 29, 1975 – Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds
3899129 – August 12, 1975 – Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification
3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation
3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion
3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator
3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator
3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation
3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes
RE29,142 – February 22, 1977 – Reissue of: 03630950 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process
4035726 – July 12, 1977 – Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al
4096005 – June 20, 1978 – Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition
4129252 – December 12, 1978 – Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials
4141274 – February 27, 1979 – Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser
4167008 – September 4, 1979 – Fluid bed chaff dispenser
4347284 – August 31, 1982 – White cover sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays
4362271 – December 7, 1982 – Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure
4402480 – September 6, 1983 – Atmosphere modification satellite
4412654 – November 1, 1983 – Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification
4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System
4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds
4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal
4686605 – August 11, 1987 – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol
4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer
4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog
4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation
4948257 – August 14, 1990 – Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing
4948050 – August 14, 1990 – Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying
4999637 – March 12, 1991 – Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
5003186 – March 26, 1991 – Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming
5005355 – April 9, 1991 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
5038664 – August 13, 1991 – Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface
5041760 – August 20, 1991 – Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration
5041834 – August 20, 1991 – Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted
5056357 – October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium
5059909 – October 22, 1991 – Determination of particle size and electrical charge
5104069 – April 14, 1992 – Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft
5110502 – May 5, 1992 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
5156802 – October 20, 1992 – Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics
5174498 – December 29, 1992 – Cloud Seeding
5148173 – September 15, 1992 – Millimeter wave screening cloud and method
5245290 – September 14, 1993 – Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect
5286979 – February 15, 1994 – Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
5296910 – March 22, 1994 – Method and apparatus for particle analysis
5327222 – July 5, 1994 – Displacement information detecting apparatus
5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding
5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor
5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption
5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation
5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather
5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions
5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane
6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution
6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather
6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound
6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer
6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method and device for cleaning the atmosphere

Clifford Carnicom – Aerosol Crimes & Cover-up Documented”

wovolve42

Okay, so I went through a Google Map that has a great of the animal death incidents posted on it. Here’s what I came up with so far:

There were 15 incidents of animal deaths in the United States, listed as follows:

Arkansas – 5,000 birds, 100,000 fish
Arizona – 70 bats
Florida – thousands of fish and several Manatee
Kentucky – dozens of black birds
Maryland – tons of thousands of fish
Louisiana- 500 black birds
Michigan – hundreds of fish
Texas – 200 birds and dozens of fish
Puerto Rico – scores of dead fish

There were 15 other incidents around the world in other countries, as follows:

Phillipines – thousands of fish
Thailand- 150 tons of red tilapias
Sweden – 100 birds
Italy – 300 doves
UK – thousands of dead fish
Japan – 24 birds, H1NI ?
Brazil – 100 tons of fish
Australia – thousands of fish
New Zealand – penguins – did not say how many but a lot more than normal, and hundreds of fish
Norway – 100 birds
Toronto – hundreds of fish

So it seems that this problem with animals dying is a Worldwide issue – if you have thoughts on patterns or the list I posted, please express!!

merek

The modern economic Nostradamus:From:

http://www.trendsresearch.com/index.htm

wovolve42

on the list for the US, I forgot to add two:

South Carollina – hundreds of starfish and jellyfish
North Carolina – thousands of fish

hutz777
hutz777

Tim Turner Feb 25th Declaration MUST be delivered to Military BEFORE NATO takes over USA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHlHUpBCt1A&feature=related

merek

the fellows going to be charged in the story below are minor,regional figures .

“WASHINGTON – US banking regulators have authorised lawsuits against 109 bank officials so far as they seek to recover at least $US2.5 billion in losses connected to recent bank failures.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp said the suits target bank directors and officers for “either gross or simple negligence.” It is seeking to recoup money for its deposit insurance fund, which backs customer accounts.

The FDIC has previously said it was pursuing such legal actions but now has unveiled a website with updated numbers.

The website will be updated monthly with a running tally of the amount of lawsuits authorised and how much the agency is seeking to recover. So far, however, the FDIC has only filed suits against directors and officers from two banks.

In November, the agency sued former executives and directors of Heritage Community Bank of Illinois. When the bank failed in February 2009, the FDIC estimated it would cost the insurance fund $US41.6 million.

In July, the FDIC also sued to recover $US300 million from former executives of IndyMac Bancorp Inc, a large California mortgage lender that failed in July 2008.

The agency has pursued lawsuits against executives of failed banks in the past. From 1986 to 2009 the government recovered $US6.2 billion from these types of suits, according to the FDIC.

The FDIC suffers the losses to its deposit insurance fund when a bank is seized.

In 2010, 157 banks with total assets of $US92 billion failed. FDIC chairman Sheila Bair has said the agency expects the number of failures to drop in 2011. ”

with the amounts stolen and highgraded and shipped off shore the amounts mentioned are just Chump Change.
When are we going to see a real malafactors round up ?

hutz777

Birth Certificate Bond–How to look it up on the stock market…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8O_flYaRe0&feature=related

XL

Re: Comment by hopesprings on January 7, 2011 @ 2:43 am
>You guys want to keep yappin about esoteric stuff, knock yourself
>out. Me, I want to chase the PTB, like “a fat boy on smartie”–to
>stop them from annihilating any members of our beautiful human
>race–even those who are “sitting down cross-legged humming
>incantations, facing the sun, waiting to ascend into the aerie place”.
>I’ll be co-piloting an F16 with Pal, Wo and T.

The topic of discussion keeps going back to esoteric stuff because that is the reality, regardless of whether you want to admit it or not. There is a reason behind everything, and once you realize that you will stop flying around in your F16 trying to put out the fires that keep popping up everywhere. We’ll just stand to the side and keep trying to get you to notice the gas shut-off valve that you could have used all along and saved you a lot of running around.

Yes, HAARP is a very versatile weapon, and can be used with significant precision for a wide variety of purposes. But, have you ever figured out “why” it has not been used to facilitate mass genocide yet? They could easily complete their population reduction program in less than a day, but they haven’t… Why? That is where the esoteric stuff comes in… It has nothing to do with saving their own behinds.

Also the “sitting down cross-legged humming incantations, facing the sun, waiting to ascend into the aerie place” description is a stereotype of the New Age movement(which, by the way, was designed by the PTB(W?) to lead people into yet another wrong direction). I am nothing like that at all, I do none of those things. Travel up north a bit, come meet me and you’ll discover what I’m talking about. You don’t have to get all “woo-woo” in order to view things from a different perspective.

You also forget that I am also a Christian (albeit a non-traditional one), and am as far from an atheist as you can get. I do not knock Christianity, but am attempting to save it. In order to do that, we need to purge the NWO crap from the system in order to survive the coming collapse of organized religions. For example, the BS about the Holy Trinity is something that has had a HUGE detrimental impact on the spiritual well-being of the planet, and that needs to be fixed.

Overall, we are not straying much off-topic, because all of this is related. All of the geo-political problems in the world are intricately entwined with the esoteric topics, so when you discuss one, you discuss both.

merek

A Bigger Disaster Looming in America,Stansberry Investments
Advisory:
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSIENDVD/PPSILC16/PR

mbridges

This ATM Keyboard Will Steal Your Card PIN And You’ll Never Notice It

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-atm-keyboard-will-steal-your-card-pin-and-youll-never-notice-it-2011-1##ixzz1AHaV2P8n

hutz777

Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGnKXb0A920

mbridges

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Jan 5 2011
Exclusive: Discovery, Catholic Church team for exorcism series

Discovery Channel is teaming with the Vatican for an unprecedented new series hunting the deadliest catch of all: Demons.

The Exorcist Files will recreate stories of real-life hauntings and demonic possession, based on cases investigated by the Catholic Church. The project includes access into the Vatican’s case files, as well as interviews with the organization’s top exorcists — religious experts who are rarely seen on television.

“The Vatican is an extraordinarily hard place to get access to, but we explained we’re not going to try to tell people what to think,” says Discovery president and GM Clark Bunting.

Bunting says the investigators believe a demon can inhabit an inanimate object (like a home) or a person. The network executive says he was initially skeptical when first meeting the team but was won over after more than three hours of talks.

“The work these folks do, and their conviction in their beliefs, make for fascinating stories,” Bunting says.

If the show’s first season is successful, the network hopes its partnership with the Church will pave the way for producers GoGo Luckey to take the series to the next level — joining Catholic investigators on live demon-purging ride-alongs. (Move over, Syfy’s Ghost Hunters.)

Exorcist Files marks one of two new series coming to the network and first reported by EW. The other is the intriguing Disappeared (working title), produced by Pilgrim Films, which will test whether its possible to really “go off the grid,” as contestants ditch their identities and attempt to hide anywhere in the world from a team of trackers.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/05/discovery-exorcist-files/

mbridges

David Versus Monsanto – 52min Documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLzELDt3d2I

mbridges
mbridges

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More Bad News For States: State Revenue Plunges By 31% In 2009 To $1.1 Trillion As Spending Increases
Tyler Durden
01/05/2011 17:25 -0500

The Meredith Whitney “ubiquitous state default” case may have just gotten another leg up. According to just released Census Bureau data, in 2009 total state revenue plunged by 31%, from $1.6 trillion to $1.1 trillion. “The large decrease in total revenue was mainly caused by the substantial decrease in social insurance trust revenue. Social insurance trust revenue is made up of four categories — public employee retirement, unemployment compensation, workers compensation and other insurance trusts (i.e., Social Security, Medicare, veteran’s life insurance).” But the drop in the top line did not stop states from spending more: in the same year, state government spending rose by 3%, while that pervasive source of backstop funding, the US government, saw its grants to states increase by 13% to $477.7 billion. At this point it is safe to say nobody believes there is a deficit that the US government can not fill.

More at:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/more-bad-news-states-state-revenue-plunges-31-2009-11-trillion-spending-increases

mbridges

RISING OIL AND SUGAR PRICES THREATEN SOCIAL PEACE
3 January 6, 2011

“These increases that exude strong hints of social destabilization are seen by the Algerians as an aggression against their dignity. A qui profite le crime? Who benefits?”

“There have been riots in many cities in Algeria over the sudden price increase in sugar, food oil and meal. A price increase from 80 Dinars to 150 Dinars in sugar was schocking.”

Inflation is crushing people everywhere!

Farid,Norway

More at:
http://www.lexpressiondz.com/article/2/2011-01-06/84583.html

mbridges

Food Riots Commence As The Fed’s Loose Money Policy Leads To First Violence Of 2011
Tyler Durden, 01/06/2011

“Wednesday’s violence started after evening Muslim prayers. It came after price hikes for milk, sugar and flour in recent days, and amid simmering frustration that Algeria’s abundant gas-and-oil resources have not translated into broader prosperity…”

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/food-riots-commence-feds-loose-money-policy-leads-first-violence-2011

mbridges

Which of the Six Big 6 Banking Houses Was the Most Shameless Corporate Outlaw?

“These aren’t nice folks; their collective rap sheet includes fraud, sex discrimination, collusion to bribe public officials… even laundering drug money for Mexican drug cartels…”

More at:
http://www.alternet.org/story/149375/which_of_the_six_big_6_banking_houses_was_the_most_shameless_corporate_outlaw

mbridges

What do you do when the money is gone?

“That is a question Prichard’s pensioners are now dealing with. Predictably, the lawsuits have begun. But meanwhile, so have personal bankruptcies by people no longer able to meet credit card and other debt obligations.”

“One 66–year-old retired fire captain said he is going back to work as a security guard so he can make his mortgage payments. Charities are helping some, but not everyone.”

More at:
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=7807.7.0.0

“The retired fire marshal, too young to collect social security and unable to find work, was found dead in his home with all the utilities turned off.”

America’s Pensionless Future
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=7807.7.0.0

mbridges

Real estate crisis in China?

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“Is the same thing going to happen in China, where there are 65 million empty residential real estate units?”

“This is nearly the entire population of South Korea. Will they collateralize their own renminbi…with their 65M houses, thereby having a flood of investors swooping into China for houses on the cheap over a tanked fiat note?
Or will they decouple houses from collateral asset class?”

“Then they would have to collateralize their debt with something else like commodities and….the gold and silver they have been amassing…”

“So, one to one, if they do not collateralize their fiat money with their houses, as the USA has done, and as you mentioned France did to their doom, they will be forced to go to things like convert to the gold and/or silver standard driving prices into sky high territory.”

“It’s either 65 million houses worth of stuff like gold, or 65 million houses worth of houses left sitting there.”

Bob
Jan 6, 2011 at 7:46 pm
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/01/06/keiser-report-united-states-and-the-deathly-deficit-e110/#comments

merek

America’s Pensionless Future
January 4, 2011 | From theTrumpet.com
The first debt bomb has already detonated. Is it the first explosion in a nationwide chain reaction? By Robert Morley
Want to see the future? Go to Prichard, Alabama. It is a city with a sobering lesson for America and for millions of people who think the good times are about to return.

What draws our attention here?

Nothing. That’s what’s startling. There is hardly anything going on here anymore. Prichard in 2011 is a rundown, decaying, derelict collection of overgrown, boarded-up old buildings. Around them, abandoned homes litter a landscape crisscrossed with cratered roads and trash-strewn streets. The only thing making any noise is the graffiti.

Why the silence? It’s because 40 percent of the population of Prichard isn’t there. And the few remaining businesses operate from behind barred windows and guard dogs.

Prichard used to be the real-time American dream. It was a rich manufacturing boomtown replete with movie theaters, big-box department stores and its own zoo. The schools were safe. Children played in the streets. During that heyday, it was hard to even find a place to park in this model city.

But the town’s dramatic boom-to-bust isn’t why this Alabama case study is on the front page of the New York Times. The reason Prichard (population 27,000 and falling) is making headlines is that its leaders are setting a startling precedent that might be coming to a city near you.

According to the New York Times, Prichard pulled the trigger on something that pension experts say they’ve never seen before: It stopped sending out pension checks to its retired workers.

One month the checks were in the mailbox. The next month—cold turkey—the box stayed empty.

What do you do when the money is gone? That is a question Prichard’s pensioners are now dealing with. Predictably, the lawsuits have begun. But meanwhile, so have personal bankruptcies by people no longer able to meet credit card and other debt obligations. One 66–year-old retired fire captain said he is going back to work as a security guard so he can make his mortgage payments. Charities are helping some, but not everyone. The retired fire marshal, too young to collect social security and unable to find work, was found dead in his home with all the utilities turned off.

It is illegal for Prichard to stop paying its pension obligations. The state has repeatedly ordered the city to pay up. It would if it could. The problem is that it is flat, busted broke—the charred remains of a combusted economy. Property values are sinking, taxes are soaring, and jobs and people are fleeing. But the debt payments remain. How can you set up a nice pension-payment plan when all you’ve got around you is financial rubble—the result of years of mismanagement?

Every judge in the country can order you to pay until they are blue in the face, but it’s like demanding the mayor of a war zone give everyone a bonus this year.

At first, it might not seem so startling that a city could go broke. After all, people go broke, so why can’t cities? That’s a good question—and the trouble is, it’s one that investors around the world are beginning to ask themselves.

Up until this point in American history, state and municipal debt has been among the safest investments available. Only U.S. treasuries were considered safer. But is Prichard the proverbial canary in the toxic coal mine? Is there a devastating chain reaction starting around us?

“Prichard is the future,” says San Diego’s former city attorney Michael Aguirre, who is advising the city to declare bankruptcy to reduce its pension burden. “We’re all on the same conveyor belt. Prichard is just a little further down the road.”

Read that again! This is San Diego, California—not Podunk, Nebraska.

Startlingly, San Diego is just one of thousands of cities stretching from California to New York whose bloated, crushing public pension obligations are pushing them toward bankruptcy—or toward contact with a high social explosive known as “pension repudiation.”

“The most alarming thing about the state issue is the level of complacency,” says Meredith Whitney, a respected financial analyst. “It has tentacles as wide as anything I’ve seen. I think next to housing this is the single most important issue in the United States and certainly the largest threat to the U.S. economy.”

Take Illinois. The state has a total debt of $160 billion. Of that, $130 billion sits on the books of posh public pension plans. That equates to a debt of $25,000 per household—just to pay looming pensions. The plan is so underfunded that the governor is borrowing billions of dollars to “invest” in the stock market in a desperate attempt to make more money and delay the coming pension implosion. According to Northwestern University’s Joshua Rauh, Illinois will be Prichard in seven years if nothing is done. The budget will implode, and every state pensioner will lose his or her income.

The City of Pittsburgh faces a pension Armageddon too, as does Central Falls, Rhode Island. Michigan has several cities that would probably declare bankruptcy if state law allowed. Detroit is planning on halting police patrols and garbage collection to 20 percent of the city to free up funds to pay its debt and entitlement obligations.

Philadelphia’s public pension plans will be completely drained in four years. Like Prichard, Philadelphia technically isn’t “allowed” to go bankrupt either. But that won’t make retirees feel any better when the monthly checks get smaller and smaller or disappear completely. You just can’t get water from a dry rock.

The looming pension crisis may be one of the top stories you’ll see in 2011 and beyond. And this is a big deal to more than just former city employees. Investors want to know who will get paid—the debt holders or the pensioners. The soon-coming war will have drastic implications, none of them pretty.

Debt markets notoriously suffer from herd mentality. If a city—or worse, a state—were to default on its debts, not only would its borrowing costs skyrocket, but a chain reaction affecting all states and cities could also be set off. A European-style debt firestorm could easily ignite in American cities. Yet, if cities and states continue to pilfer the pension plans to pay debts and current levels of spending, they risk becoming Prichard.

The City of Prichard’s situation is startling for one other reason. Prichard was a financial bomb that everyone knew was going to explode. Multiple times the city was in and out of bankruptcy protection. City officials were even court ordered to put more money into the pension fund (money they didn’t have). For years, officials were warned that the pension was drastically underfunded. One study commissioned for the city in 2004 even predicted the exact year that the pension time bomb would click down to zero. It did, right on schedule.

Yet, through it all—and despite abundant warnings—no one was able to defuse it.

At this time of year the media is full of experts predicting what the future will hold. Will it be a year of recovery? Will the jobs come back? Will house prices stop falling? Will banks stop foreclosing? Will the stock market go up? In short, will the good times return?

Want to know the future? It is easy: Go to Prichard

mbridges

Europe unveils sweeping plans to govern reckless banks

“Brussels has called for sweeping powers for regulators to seize failing EU banks, sack board members, and impose haircuts on senior bank debt, aiming to ensure that taxpayers are never again held hostage by high finance.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/8244160/Europe-unveils-sweeping-plans-to-govern-reckless-banks.html

samw

I agree with Hopesprings that the mass animal deaths around the globe are the most compelling/alarming development of the day and should perhaps be the focus of this valuable thread. However, at the moment, I don’t really have anything to contribute in that regard so I will offer a few more thoughts on the AI front:

In the final chapter/conversation of ‘Awakening The Intelligence’ J.Krishnamurti discusses how humanity’s divine intelligence has been overtaken by an egoic mind (see E. Tolle), and it reads quite similarly to some of the sci-fi accounts of an AI singularity-type event. Perhaps the matter of artificial intelligence should be expanded to include the practice of ‘watching’ one’s own thoughts and carefully discerning whether or not they are indeed one’s own.

Since jsanta has brought up Joel Goldsmith, I’ll go ahead and use Mary Baker Eddy’s terminology and label what she terms ‘mortal mind’ as a temporal, limited, fearful illusion (albeit a persistent one)and suggest that such an ‘evil’ artificial intelligence is indeed already afoot. The practice of ‘standing porter at the door of thought’ – using careful discernment as to what the origin of any given idea may be – is a good practice to employ; especially in the age of HAARP technology.

mbridges

“US debt is largely fictitious”

RT America – Jan. 6 2011

“The United States is in serious debt but the latest numbers show the US national debt has surpassed $14 trillion. From June, 2010 until the end of the year the US racked up another trillion dollars worth of debt.”

“Economist Michael Hudson says the important thing to realize is the government doesn’t borrow money it creates it, the whole issue of whether the US has a debt problem is largely fictitious.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2uKt_gTDa0&feature=sub

mbridges

47.8 Million People Live in Poverty — Far More Than Previously Thought

“The Census Bureau has released new estimates that show the US poverty rate is far higher than previously thought, with 1 in 6 Americans living below the poverty line, reports the AP. Unlike the official poverty rate, the new numbers take into account medical bills as well as transportation costs and work expenses. The number of seniors living in poverty almost doubles under the new formula, according to the AP.”

More at:
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/424987/47.8_million_people_live_in_poverty_–_far_more_than_previously_thought/

Grendizer

@Hutz777 on January 7, 2011 @ 3:31 am

I just finished listening to Mr Turner pt 1-6 YT videos.

Let me tell you something… this is music to my ears! The new currency is expected in the 3rd week of April??? Wow, this is what I was looking forward to ask you… and now I have the answer!!! Now I know the corporation is trully done.

Is there a plan in place to confiscate what the corporation has stolen from the American people over the past 140 years? What about the Fort Knox gold stolen by the Rockefellers and the Federal Reserve until 1971 (source: “Money Masters”, Bill Still), does anyone knows where it went missing? How are you planning to get it back?

I have lots more questions but if you can answer theses ones, then we can move forwards to the next ones.

Grendizer

g7enn

CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS: THE LOOTING OF AMERICA

EUROPEAN NATIONS BEGIN SEIZING PRIVATE PENSIONS

OIL RISES CLOSE TO $92

MASSIVE SILVER SHORTAGE AND FALL OF FIAT CURRENCIES

FINALLY WIKILEAKS DOCUMENT EVIDENCES MONSANTO RETALIATION VIA US GOVERNMENT AGAINST EU GMO BAN

BILL GATES PUSHING GENETICALLY MODIFIED SEEDS IN AFRICA

BILL GATES FOUNDATION HELPED PAY FOR GMO TRIAL THAT USED CHILDREN AS GUINEA PIGS

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

hutz777

A Bigger Disaster Looming in America,Stansberry Investments
Advisory:
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSIENDVD/PPSILC16/PR
Comment by merek on January 7, 2011 @ 3:50 am
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Merek this was astounding. everyone should see and hear this .

mbridges

A LIST and a MAP of LOCATIONS that have FALLING BIRDS, DEAD FISH and ANIMALS in 2011

“This thread was started to keep recent reports of dead birds and fish in one place, to make it easier to read. Most links and information are provided by GLP members here, if anyone finds an error in the list or links, please let me know, and I’ll try to update it.”

More at:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1308605/pg1

hutz777

grendizer
This was made in 20010 April . It is the RAP plan .. but most of it is correct for today ….TT still wants to accomplish the same things .
As for getting the money stolen I’m am sure lawsuits will do it .
That was Tim Turner 9 months ago . I believe he is still on message .
Have you signed up ?

jsanta

Hope,
I love your name:) I put the word Christians in “” because those are the so called ones who will crucify us. They in name only. I love the Lord Jesus and especially His Mother Mary – Yes god forbid her too. I am still an ordained Catholic Priest – albeit excommunicated by the “Institutional Catholic Church” for a number of reasons.

Discernment and being able to open the mind to truths that initially hurt to the point of crying and anger is what we have been thru. But go thru it and you will “see” from the mountain top instead of just in the valley.

This, in my opinion is what this WHOLE BLOG IS ABOUT – BECOMING AWARE OF A NEW AWARENESS.

I love you too!

Thanks XL

hutz777

Sorry if I posted this It is TT back in Feb last year.
Tim Turner Feb 25th Declaration MUST be delivered to Military BEFORE NATO takes over USA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHlHUpBCt1A&feature=related

hutz777

grendizer on January 7, 2011 @ 6:01 am
I have heard from different sources and banks themselves have treasury currency waiting in the vaults for announcements.. all part of RAP/nassra plan.

mbridges

Jan 5th 2011 By Jeremy Taylor
Technology deprivation resembles drug withdrawal

Read more: http://www.asylum.co.uk/2011/01/05/technology-deprivation-resembles-drug-withdrawal/#ixzz1AIF1sAYr

Grendizer

@Hutz777 on January 7, 2011 @ 6:26 am

Does this mean the interim government is already issuing united States treasory notes? Banks already have them in their vaults… and how many of these banks are there? Is there a link where we can verify this information?

Grendizer

hutz777
Grendizer

@Hutz777 on January 7, 2011 @ 6:26 am

I think I’m starting to see what TT meant with “peacefull transition in America”. No-one will notice the sudden change until they see it; then they will realize something just happened.

Grendizer

hutz777

Grendizer
I have only heard from people I trust that they was indeed a treasury bank. first & third bank in ga. told colleen ,a member of this blog ,they new of the cash and some of it already in the banks waiting on an announcement. I am sorry I don’t have a link. what I know is from people I trust . I suggest we all ask our bank managers about the new greenbacks.

hutz777

[1:25:23 PM] mark.atkins7: Casper, today.
[1:25:25 PM] mark.atkins7: A few days ago certain members of LEGATUS, a worldwide group of Catholic Business Leaders, stepped forward to assist in getting the deliveries accomplished. They have now been squashed by their ‘Higher Councils’ which, we hear from our “UFO CONTACTS”, have been promised huge payoffs from the POPE and THE QUEEN. Their higher echelon, our UFO CONTACTS now advise, have joined the ‘around the clock’ efforts to break into our accounts. WE are also advised that their account balances increased greatly simultaneous with the worldwide financial crash in 2008. Some say this organization is the modern day version of OPUS DEI. It is led in the U.S. by Thomas Monaghan the founder of Dominoes Pizza and is having their annual convention at the RITZ in Naples, Florida in February. There are reputed to be some 5000 members worldwide, all Catholic, usually CEO’s of major Corporations. Many articles on the Net claim they act in concert and caused the Stock Market crashes in 1987 and 2008 making vast sums of money always followed by a pilgrimage to the Vatican where they drop off the Vatican’s share of the money made off the shared misery of the common man worldwide. WE have no personal knowledge of these things. WE do have knowledge of their current attempts to raid our accounts and the promised pay-offs reported above. These “Leaders of Men” thought, as did those exposed yesterday, their accounts in the Vatican Bank could never be found. Ooop’s. Every imaginable ‘STALL’ is being employed to buy time to continue their assault upon the accounts.

The existing SATANIST worldwide Fiat Financial Establishment will do anything, anything at all, to preserve their Fraudulent Financial Playpen, themselves in power and to avoid the exposures which go way beyond those reported here.

More when possible.

Casper 1-6-11

mbridges

Viking Found Organics on Mars, Experiment Confirms
Using Mars-like soil taken from Atacama Desert, a study confirms Mars has organics, and Viking found them.

http://news.discovery.com/space/viking-mars-organics-experiment.html

Grendizer

@Hutz777 on January 7, 2011 @ 6:26 am

at this point in time I don’t think you can find any information related to this matter on the web. If this is sensitive information, just let us know and we can wait for events to unfold, I have no problem with that.

mbridges

FBI told Clinton prosecutor about details of 9/11 ‘attack’ weeks in advance
December 30, 2010 by Craig McKee in “9/11 truth, Military, Pentagon, Terrorism”

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/clinton-prosecutor-told-by-fbi-about-details-of-911-attacks-months-in-advance/

hutz777

Grendizer

we come in peace and forgiveness with God as our leader . we are legal in their court. nothing can stop us .We love our enemy .We are a powerful spiritual force as long as we give God the Glory and thanks .
join us folks it feels real good to help bring back freedom and common law

winwin4all

Horizontal Drilling:

Quoting from my email msg yesterday:

For those of you that haven’t been following oil development in North Dakota, the Bakken shale underlies about the western third of the state and is estimated to contain over 500 Billion barrels. Yes that is Billion – not a typo. For comparison, Saudia Arabia has 25 billion and Alaska about the same. Recoverable with current technology is apparently 20% although two companies drilled two laterals in the same section in Mountrail County last summer. Up until those, the procedure was to go down vertically in one corner of a section (square mile) and drill horizontally (the lateral) at a diagonal across the section. (The closing scenes in the video are not Bakken wells – the wells are too close together.) One lateral in each section taps into a very small amount of the shale formation. Multiple laterals in one section may substantially increase the recoverable amounts. I’ve seen the Bakken crude and seen chemical analyses of it – it is very close to kerosene or diesel fuel – some of the sweetest crude in the world.

Initial production from the Bakken wells ranges from 300 to 2400 barrels per day depending on location since the shale seems to be different in different areas.

The Sanish-Three Forks shale is immediately below the Bakken and underlies all of North Dakota.

The Bears Den shale is below that and it also appears to underlie all of North Dakota. No estimates on total oil in either of these yet. All three of these formations extend into Montana and Saskatchewan.

I’ve seen one article on the Bakken oil developments in the Wall Street Journal – nothing in any of the other media. Do you suppose that they fear support for alternative energy development would collapse if the public knew we have enough oil in North Dakota alone to supply our country’s needs for many years to come?? Apparently they would prefer to cover the prairies with wind farms and the deserts with solar panels. Despite climategate and some seriously cold weather this winter they are still pushing global warming.

In contrast to most states, North Dakota had $1 Billion surplus last year that they put into public schools and reduced our property taxes. Mostly from the severance tax on oil.

http://www.northernoil.com/drilling.php

hutz777

and we need you Americans. Please stand up with us .It is empowering.

lew3

winwin4all, the amount of Bakken oil is no where nera 500 billion barrels. See this from March, 2009:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakken.asp

lew3

nera = near

winwin4all

Aloha Ben & Everyone:

WOW !!!! Thank you Ben for an excellent and informational article. Since we are an “open-minded” group (except the paid prostitutes who spend time disinforming on this blog) and we love to look at other angles of possibilities with discernment.

The satanists (reptilians from Zeta Reticuli) do exist in many dimensions. So, if we can’t see them in the 3rd dimension / physical level, they are hiding in the 4th or…

Here’s some info on that:

http://www.stargods.org/StudyOfReptilians.htm

and more info links at:

http://tinyurl.com/2v5e6jz

Since anything can be anything, please bring in lots of light and love to this planet so we can use it to expose these dark entities … for a better world.

Happy New Year !!!

winwin4all

Comment by lew3 on January 7, 2011 @ 7:59 am

Lew, thanks for catching that.

I got the info from a friend and I tried to post it with the idea that yes, we do have oil and we don’t have to depend on foreign oil – – just like we can do well without the satanists being here on this planet doing their best to stop us to evolve spiritually !!! They don’t like that we can think independently as spiritual beings here !!!

sierra

THIS IS ONE OF THE NICEST AND MOST MEANINGFUL “HAPPY NEW YEAR WISHES” I HAVE EVER SEEN. (And not too late to send it along.)

THIS SAYS IT ALL. PLEASE ENJOY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91rBzNKvlc

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sierra

XL

Re: Comment by winwin4all on January 7, 2011 @ 8:35 am

There is a HUGE amount of oil in other reserves around the world. For example, Isreal is rumoured to have a resevoir under it that is larger than all the previously discovered fields put together, and I’m sure there are many-many more. Combine that with the probability that oil is not a fossil fuel and is being constantly replenished, and the fact that we do not need oil at all if we embrace the zero-point energy devices, and you can see a well-defined conspiracy.

Summary: There is no oil shortage, there is is no need for oil, and there is no reason to have gas prices as high as they are. Oil is simply being used as a tool used to control the world.

mbridges

Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World, The FDA Aspartame Conspiracy

“After 7000 miles, and 25 hours of footage, ‘Sweet Misery’ reveals one of the most pervasive, insidious forms of corporate negligence in the history of the industrial revolution. The toxic long-term effects of aspartame are often dismissed as a ‘hoax’ by the sweetener industry and at least five other Internet websites. The real footwork, however, unravels something less comforting than a mere ‘Hoax.’ ‘Sweet Misery’ is a documentary just released by Sound and Fury Productions.”

FULL LENGTH – 1:29:55

(http://www.soundandfuryproductions.com)

winwin4all

Comment by XL on January 7, 2011 @ 9:03 am

Aloha XL:

Thanks for your great input. So, we can see now why the satanic reptilian british stole that piece of land from the palestinians and called it israel. Did you watch Michael Tsarion’s videos yet? They are very interesting (not 100% true) and I’d like to thank whoever in this blog to bring it to our attention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJMCswU5tE (Michael Tsarion – Future of Mankind (1 of 19) )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkn31GVISw ( 2 of 19 )

winwin4all

For those who have been following the new series of Commander Hatonn, here are some more writings for your review. A lot of confirmation info with comments from the Commander.

12/10/10b from HATONN/jonur (ns 25)

Hatonn returned to commune with you this evening. SALU!

MORE MILITARY CONFIRMATION
OF JEWISH ELITE STAGING
AMERICAN ATROCITIES
(CONTINUED)

“ISRAEL DID 9/11,” DR ALAN SABROSKY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES AT THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE: “THE MILITARY KNOWS” IT! By Gordon Duff.

[Quoting:] … 3. The “enemy” of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America’s target list) [Hatonn: This is important, dear ones; the Jew believes all non-Jews are their sworn and bitter enemy. Particularly Christians and ALL BLACKS, and yet, the Jew pretends to be their most loyal and caring friend. Therefore, the Jewish doctor, lawyer, movie executive, university instructor, and banker has great sway over the affairs of the lives of their secret enemy. And this is how the harm comes to you—in secret and under the guise of “Humanitarianism” and “Philanthropic” gestures. The elite conspirators always present themselves as your benevolent saviors, all the while feeding you lies and poison, as your bank accounts and other assets are stolen from right out under thy noses. Do not let their continuing shouts of “anti-Semite!” fool you into accepting something that you are not. Remember, “JEWS” ARE NOT SEMITES! KHAZARS COME FROM NOAH’S OTHER SON JEPHATH; THE SERPENT PEOPLE WHO ARE OF THEIR FATHER, WHO IS THE FATHER OF LIES, FOLLOW LUCIFER. THESE ARE THE ONES WHO FOLLOW LUCIFER’S DOCTRINES FOR PERPETUAL WAR AND HUMAN SACRIFICE. Know your ancient enemy, for it is the same you face this day!]; and

4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants) intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s)—it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more common of successful colonialist movements as in the US—and perhaps a reason why most Americans wouldn’t care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech fashion.”

Sabrosky is one of the few Americans who sees the nuclear threat of Israel as it is, blackmailing the United States, not only in how it could be used to draw America into an unwanted war, but how it could actually be used at some point to attack the United States itself. Only recently, Israel put Western Europe on notice that it would be attacked if its actions threatened Israel, attacked by nuclear weapons from Israel without warning. [H: And there you have it! The Jews of New Khazaria—ISRAEL—told you that they will be the ones to “push the button” first! This goes precisely with their SECRET NUCLEAR WAR PLANS WHERE AMERICA IS SACRIFICED IN A SURPRISE STRIKE AGAINST CHRISTIAN RUSSIA! Any conflict to arise out of the Middle East and Saudi Arabian Oil Fields WILL BE A SURPRISE NUCLEAR FIRESTORM CAUSED BY ISRAELIS. The only thing holding up the “PROJECT-Z War Plan” is getting a sensor satellite or spy plane in the right position to monitor whether or not Russian strategic targets are hit—PRIOR TO ALL-OUT ATTACK. Ask God to assist you ones in this darkest hour before the atomic holocaust can be triggered. We of the Hosts of Heaven will assist, as allowed under cosmic law; however, YE MUST ASK AND PETITION FOR THAT ASSISTANCE. Martin van Creveld’s threat combined with Sabrosky’s analysis of Israeli intentions and culpability for 9/11 brings to mind something Sabrosky had once written.

He has always seen Moshe Dyan as a hero. Dyan saw Israel’s military role as that of a “junk yard dog”, ready to bite without warning, attack anything and anyone. [H: “Hounds of Hell” and “Devil Dogs” fit most appropriately with these evil Khazarian Jews. They will always be the group behind the true mass murderers of your world. Death on a massive scale is the means by which they take control of nations—and the people who live within them.] Sabrosky notes that, eventually, such an animal is always put down or, as he puts it, “the preferred response of everyone else is to kill that mad dog before it can decide to go berserk and bite.”

9/11

Sabrosky makes a case, not just for a cover-up of 9/11, but goes much further. He points out, as do so many, that the physics of the attack are unworkable. He, however, is one of the few to point to a conclusion many find obvious, but few have the nerve to admit—that it would have been impossible to stage 9/11 without the full resources of both the CIA and Mossad and that 9/11 served the interests of both agencies quite well. [H: You no longer fight wars for “Just Causes”. All conflicts and wars ARE CIA/KGB wars, of which the true reasons for going into battle and killing U.S. servicemen are never revealed to the public. Afghan fighting in those worthless mountain terrain and desolated towns is over the lucrative OPIUM TRADE—Period! And what of oil production in such as Iraq/Kuwait? It is not over oil; America has all the oil it needs in her own back yard! Remember Texas oil and “Black Gold” ranchers of the Big Horn Texan variety? What happened to all that oil? IT IS STILL THERE—SHUT DOWN BY THE ZIONIST JEWS AND ONES SUCH AS THE HUNT BROTHERS KILLED OFF SO AMERICA CAN IMPORT OIL IT DOES NOT NEED IN ORDER TO GET YOU INVOLVED IN MIDDLE EAST CONFLICTS THAT DO NOT CONCERN YOU. THIS IS WHY THE ENTIRE ARAB WORLD CURSED YOUR EXISTENCE! ONLY THE FACT OF BARACK OBAMA AS PRESIDENT HAS SPARED YOU. THE WORLD WATCHES TO SEE WHAT YOU-THE-PEOPLE DO ON BEHALF OF THE POOR AND DISENFRANCHISED IN YOUR NATION. BECAUSE SO GOES AMERICA—SO GOES THE REST OF THE WORLD! All eyes are on you as citizens of a CONSTITUTIONAL Republic—a nation founded under God. Because deep down inside, the people of the world ARE Goodly and Godly, and they will put a stop to the evil on the planet, and to those responsible for it.]

There was nothing they could have wished for more.

Sabrosky also makes a point involving media coverage of 9/11:

Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath.

Zionism And Treason

The inescapable point isn’t the 60,000 Americans killed or wounded in a war started out of treason or the world it threatens to destroy.

Americans have been looking away from these glaring realities the way they looked away from Vietnam. Sabrosky leaves Israel and her American Jewish supporters, whom he sees as traitors, with a warning:

“If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering—and the suffering we have inflicted on others—is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike, whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault.”

Do we take Sabrosky seriously because he is a Marine or a Jew? Do we wonder why the things he says reach so few? [H: Keep in mind WHO runs the media you all get your so-called “news” from. The Jews will give you lies in EVERY INSTANCE; Take what they tell you on television and turn it around, and that will be the truth of the matter. As I have said before, if Henry Kissinger tells you “We just want to make peace in the Middle East”—expect war and put on your bonnet!] Is America in a shooting war where our biggest enemy sits behind us, killing us off, robbing us blind and whispering gently in our ears how much they love us?

It would seem so. [End quoting.]

Break here, Jonur, and have respite. Summon when ready to resume our work. Hatonn moving to standby frequency.

SALU!

winwin4all

12/11/10 from HATONN/jonur (ns26)

Good evening, Jonur; let us continue with the Jewish Marine who is telling you that the counterfeit “Jew” who espouses Zionism is thy enemy within your midst. “Anti-Semitism” is the catchphrase the evil cartel is using to throw everyone off the scent of the trail which ultimately leads to global destruction. By pretending to be the people of the Book (Holy Bible), the Satanists have gathered American resources unto themselves in a final bid to take the planet by force. Hatonn present in the light of The Radiant ONE.

DR. ALAN SABROSKY
FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES
US ARMY WAR COLLEGE

Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond, “UNCENSORED” magazine, June-September 2010, by Alan Sabrosky. [Quoting:] SEPTEMBER 10, 2009. The attacks on September 11, 2001 have been a defining moment for America. The political and psychological impact on Americans of a concerted and visible attack in America was enormous—indeed, it is an interesting “coincidence” that the attacks occurred on the one day of the year whose mention reinforces a public sense here of danger and emergency: 9-1-1. [Hatonn: All is symbolic with these clever deceivers, for they are expert at mass mind manipulation. Through such as the Tavistock Institute in London, England, and the U.S. “think tank” called RAND Corporation (Research ANd Development), your evil adversary has mapped out human reactions to staged events. This allows the response to be guided toward THEIR secret goal of enslaving a world populace. No longer are the boundaries of so-called “communist revolution” limited to this nation or that. The New World Order / Global Plan 2000 eyes the entire Earth this time, and they mean to kill off more than 6 BILLION of you nice little citizen sheep of God. So no matter how far out the facts seem in this regard—IT IS THAT FAR OUT! Even alien replicas (“cloning” as you mistakenly label it) will be used. Nightly in Detroit, a horrifying creature is fixed to the television screens, of an “alien” caught by an automatic camera in a swamp in the American Midwest. The allowance of this image by the mainstream Jewish media is a sign that the trap is loaded and ready to be sprung. Genetic mutations of all types have been created in the secret underground facilities, the purpose of which is to unify the world against non-existent “Invaders From Space”. But, you will note that no human-looking entities are ever shown. That would ruin the plans of the Jews for you to go to war against space. By declaring martial law (military law), the United Nations can—illegally—come in and put blue helmets (“Blue Turbans”, as Nostradamus tried to warn you 400 years ago) and tanks on your neighborhood street corners. But it will be you-the-people whom the guns are actually trained on. That’s why your military bases are all but empty and your troops scattered hither and yon. America has been purposely and TREASONOUSLY disarmed for this very purpose, while you thought it was to appease the Soviets. There is much to unravel, precious friends, but we will get there, for God DOES win in the end.]

A significant development in the 1990s was the formation of the neo-conservative think tank known as PNAC (Project for a New American Century), whose members prepared position papers for the Israeli government and for a future US Administration sharing their views. That happened in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush, and a contemporary writer summarized the tip of the neo-conservative iceberg in his first Administration this way:

The “outsiders” from PNAC were now powerful “insiders”, placed in important positions from which they could exert maximum pressure on US policy …. PNAC had a lock on military policy-creation in the Bush Administration.

Especially significant in terms of subsequent events was the acknowledgement in one of PNAC’s own documents that their program for America (and Israel) would not readily be accepted by the American people. What this meant, PNAC opined in 2000, was that “the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” [H: Do you not see that the biggest “Pearl Harbor” attack is invading blood-suckers from Mars or some other planet “out there”? What a grand deception of Biblical proportions! Is this not worthy of what Lucifer is fully capable of doing to God’s people? How else can the Prince of Lies fool you than by making you terrified of EVERYTHING coming from space? Since Jesus and God’s HOSTS will also come from the cosmos, you will be shooting at your only hope in these so-called Ending Days.]

9/11 Reconsidered

On September 11, 2001, the PNAC people in and out of government—and by extension AIPAC and Israel—“coincidentally” got the event they needed, barely eight months after coming into office. Most people are familiar with the basic details of that day—two commercial aircraft crashing into the two tallest buildings in New York City’s World Trade Center (WTC), a third striking the Pentagon, and a fourth ending up in a Pennsylvania field. Few people will forget the images of the burning buildings, their collapse, the casualties, and the sense of shock and tragedy that ensued.

The official 9/11 Commission’s work and report were at best an incomplete exercise. Many people dismiss the findings of the Commission, and that includes its co-chairs. Many others who utterly distrust the 9/11 Commission report, dismiss the US Government’s explanation of it, and point to both an official cover-up and an “inside job”, include veteran fighter pilots, EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians), air defense experts, experienced commercial pilots, demolition experts, architects and civil engineers—none of them professions that inherently attract and retain the gullible and credulous.

Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do that as a “cover” had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos. [H: Very, very long range planning! Allow me to remind you ones of God’s flocks: The Zionist Elders and the Khazar elite have NEVER lost their goal and always their eyes are on the prize of revenge and global domination over you the Christ-people, called “Christians”.]

Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground: our CIA and Israel’s Mossad. [H: There are more Soviet KGB spies in your very own CIA than American farm boys! You have been “communized” and “socialized” long ago, my friends, and the cancer of evil is devouring you from within. You must deal with this sickness with the proper remedies and know the cause of the dis-ease before you can apply the cure. And that is truth followed by immediate action. The CONSTITUTION must be the primary tool for which all else hangs on . Your Founding Fathers knew of the Jewish threat and put measures within that precious document that will allow you to prevail against the traitors to your nation—use them! Only one had the incentive, using the “who benefits” principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly with the neo-con’s agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American military power to destroy Israel’s enemies. [H: A fine, sound notion, IF we were speaking of the real Hebrew Judeans (Not “J-E-W-S”, pretenders of the throne). Satan has infiltrated the ranks of your religions and has placed “perverts”, homosexuals, and Satanists upon the Holy altars of God. They now teach your children and youth in the ways of evil and promiscuity; is it any wonder AIDS was CREATED in a lab in Tel Aviv, Israel, to help depopulate the planet?] Only the unexpected strength of the Iraqi resistance kept Syria and Iran from being attacked in the second Bush Administration. Thus, the evidential trail for 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq run from PNAC, AIPAC and their cohorts; through the mostly Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration; and back to the Israeli government. None of the denials and political machinations can alter that essential reality. Terms such as treason, betrayal and deceit do not overstate the case against them.

Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is that, on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is the one they all prefer—“all” meaning the PNAC alumni who took over the Bush Administration’s national security apparatus and their counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the numerous Jewish PACs [H: The Jewish Political Action Committees and other Jewish Khazarian Lobby Groups are the “worker bees” of Lucifer and pressure your various administrations to do the bidding of the counterfeit state/country of Israel. Their illegal occupation of Palestine is an affront to common human decency, and the reason your world is in such a horrendous state of affairs.], the MSM owners, and Israel. The depiction of the media management in America in 2002 is especially informative, and has not changed significantly since then:

CEOs and Directors of companies change as often as Boards of Directors vote. But if we could “freeze frame” the CEOs of the largest US Media companies in mid 2002, we would find that ten Jewish American men ran the vast majority of US television networks and other media companies including movies, radio, and publishing at that time. [H: And today! Nothing has changed—the Jews control ALL media outlets, whether or not it is readily apparent!] Not much has changed today.

Looking Ahead

Today we are getting the same line on Iran, from the same type of people—Obama himself tries to be more independent, but most of the key staff and national security people in his Administration [H: All entrenched Zionist Khazar “Jews”, and their “Liberal” puppets, willing to do anything for Israel—right or wrong. Through blackmail of homosexual activity, knowledge of secret bribe-taking, and “CLONED” REPLICAS OF POLITICIANS AND MILITARY LEADERS, Lucifer has left no stone unturned. The evil empire of Babylon, and Gog from the land of Magog from Biblical days, has seized your nation by the throat, and is squeezing the life’s blood from your citizenry. Now that you have a Godly man willing to stand at the pit of vipers who hold the power in Washington, America as a whole must come and stand with President Obama. Demand a return of judicial and CONSTITUTIONAL law, and the return of Christ values inside your public institutions. “Jesus” Esu Immanuel SANANDA has been removed from the courts, schools, and reference during CHRIST-mass time. Can you not see the devil at work?!] do not differ greatly on Israel and the Middle East from those of his predecessor. And the Congress has shown itself to be even more of AIPAC’s (American Israeli Political Action Committee) lap-dog than the preceding Congress, an exercise in self-serving cowardice that admittedly has taken some doing. [Pause quote.]

Break here, Jonur, and return promptly. Hatonn moving to standby! Thank you for your service. Salu!

hopesprings

Hello JSanta:

I am sorry for your experience with the RC–you are lucky you broke free. There has not been a Pope since John XXIII that has not been a Freemason. Satanism has infiltrated the RC deeply. Even Father Malachi confirmed as much before they “died” him.

When you realize that about 1 billion around the world are still RCs it speaks of its immense power. Perhaps those numbers are much lower now that many are fleeing. The RC has hurt Jesus and His “bride” (church) a great deal and all of them will account for it soon.

I am not an RC, nor any denomination. I will state this–hopefully for the last time!–I am a pure self-made, with help from Above, Christian. I WANT to be a Christian. I have no fear. I have learned a lot about other centers of belief–Islamism, Judaism, Gnosticism, Atheism, Mormonism, Pentacostals…not in search, but simply because of a requisite need for knowledge. I am not a theologian by any stretch. The Satanists are obsessed with killing Christians–ask yourself why. Think about power in dark place and principalities.

I do not belong to any earthly church. I do not go to any earthly church. I read the Bible every day. I pray almost every day. I sin ever day too. I am humble; but, I am strong. I do not beat anyone over the head with my beliefs or the Word. I think you will agree I have been very tame here. I believe the core of Jesus words. I believe much of all books/epistles in the Bible–I do not like Romans 13–never will. I do not like parts of the Paulene epistles that tell women to be quiet! God knows how I feel. I have been angry at times; through instant revelation, He gave me answers to assist me without my having any prior knowledge. If you need to put me in a box, you might call me a Charismatic or an Evangelical–but really I am an independent ;-).

There are too many here that spend a lot of time bashing Christ, Christianity–this blog is not here to serve the Satanists. And I disagree, bashing the good Christians herein is not about geo-politics. If you want to bash the Vatican no problem or the big sell-out pastors to D.C., no problem. BUT PLEASE let’s not marginalize all Christians into one cauldron of hell.

Some of you think we Christians need to wake-up about it being a lie. I am awake and guess what? I made an informed decision. So let’s stop treating us like we are stupid because we don’t think like you. This is the height of egoism and arrogance. When someone makes a decision that does not harm you, respect and tolerance are requisite to uphold a functional society.

Anyway, I don’t want to go here again. I don’t need any comments on mine. This was long overdue by the silent Christians here.

We have some serious, VERY SERIOUS business to deal with. The cabal are doing some crazy things. And I think it is fair to say that YOU MY DEAR ONES are under attack–overtly and covertly.

Let’s get down to business. No more pot shots. I am here fighting a battle for you, for your children and grandchildren. I am prepared to die doing it now or later. Are you? As other good centered Christians are. Like T-Man who is out there in harm’s way for your freedom. It seems Tim Turner may be another. And Hutz has stuck his neck out quite a bit. Fix and Wbstreck have shown great patience and tolerance. I am overlooking many…

No fear. Let’s go gang–with love and tolerance.

winwin4all

12/12/10 from HATONN/jonur (ns27)

Good evening, Jonur; let us continue with Mr. Sabrosky’s dissertation of the Jewish Khazarian control of your media and government. Being that he is a “Jewish” person himself and a United States military person, he has much more insight into the Zionist thrust. Jews, Hebrews, and Judeans do not like nor agree with the so-called “Big Jews” and their belief that they are to take the world by force. Real “Jews” are waiting on their messiah to deliver their kingdom. And until that hour presents itself, genuine “Jews” (the Hebrew Judean/Judaist—a SEMITE) observe traditional or orthodox teachings from the Torah. Khazar “Jews”, however, follow the Talmud—a book not even intended to be inferred as a Book from God. As always, I come in service to God of Holy Light. Salu!

DR. ALAN SABROSKY
FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES
US ARMY WAR COLLEGE
(CONTINUED)

“ISRAEL DID 9/11”

[Concluding quote:] … But AIPAC and company are riding a tiger in America, and if they ever slip, the resulting convulsion will be catastrophic for them and for Israel. The open unfolding of the 9/11 tragedy and its ensuing wars that is now occurring can be that slip. The human cost to America to date is some 60,000 people, military and civilian, killed or wounded on 9/11 and in Iraq and Afghanistan together, with more to come once we go to war with Iran (or get dragged into it following an Israeli attack on Iran). Much of the deliberately misdirected rage that followed 9/11 has given way to endurance and grief.

But grief is a close cousin to rage, and an enraged America is not pretty, as anyone familiar with our history can appreciate. Americans are often deceptive without meaning to be. To much of the world, they often come across as naive, bumbling innocents in the world of global politics. And on a day-to-day basis, there is much truth to that.

But an enraged America is a very different character. You have only to look at what happened in WWII to German and Japanese cities, towns and villages, where America slaughtered literally millions of German and Japanese civilians—most of them women and children—knew it was doing it, and cared nothing at all. The goal was to crush, and restraint was not a word used much at all.

If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering—and the suffering we have inflicted on others—is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike, whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault.

Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D. University of Michigan) is a ten year US Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. [End quote.]

Now, let us go into one of your big wars, December 7, 1941, and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. This was what got America into the war that you call “World War Two”. The Zionist “Jews” Dr. Sabrosky is telling you about are those Soviet Jews who smashed Christian Russia in 1917—they are BOLSHEVIKS. If you look up the word, it will say that it labels New York Jews who killed the Russian Czar and his family. These Bolshevik Jews run your Pentagon, and as of late, NASA. And it is they who are trying to strike Russia for going BACK to being called (Christian) “Russia”. Those Bolshevik “Soviets”—like HENRY KISSINGER and Zbigniew Brezinski—spearhead the preemptive nuclear attack against the Kremlin. And We of The HOSTS, and the Russians who control space and the Moon, are the ones who foil their war plans as allowed by Cosmic Law—or the Law of God, to be more precise.

WHERE DOES IT END?

Let us look into the behind-the-scenes goings on at this terrible double-cross by those leaders and traitors of the American people. The author of the following, Eustace Mullins, is very knowledgeable about the history of this Jewish Khazarian power cartel. The Rothschild bankers and their evil sons fund these huge wars—using all the interest money they steal from America. Now that they have safely tucked away all YOUR STOLEN GOLD, the gold market is going to 5,000 an ounce, before they trigger a collapse on the world economy: HE WHO HOLDS THE GOLD WINS!

WHY HIROSHIMA WAS DESTROYED By Eustace C. Mullins

Now let us jump to the culmination of WWII—the dropping of an atomic bomb on other human beings.

ATOMIC WARFARE

Nuclear war is survivable if you have some type of shelter from the blast and a supply of water and food for a few weeks. However, the infrastructure will be down, and only by holding to the CONSTITUTION can you even hope to rebuild. What is being planned, and what Mother Nature has in store, is going to be beyond anything man can control, and THAT is when we will come to lift you off. If you come from the Heavens—which simply mean “sky”—that means God and Jesus DID create places and “mansions” for His people. Those are the other planets in the cosmos or “Heaven”.

So let us prevent Nuclear holocausts if at all possible! And remember ALL IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD.

UNCENSORED HISTORY

The Detailed History Of An Infamous Era. [Quote:] A very popular movie in Japan was Pride, The Fateful Moment, which shows Prime Minister General Hideki Tojo in a favorable light. With six others, he was hanged in 1968 as a war criminal. During his trial, his lawyers stated to the International Tribunal for the Far East, the Asian version of the Nuremberg Trials, that Tojo’s war crimes could not begin to approach the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The prosecutors immediately objected, and censored their statements. That was the last time there was any official recognition of the atomic bomb massacres in Japan. Japanese officials have been effectively prevented from taking any stand on this matter because the American military occupation, which officially ended in 1952 with the Treaty with Japan, was quietly continued. Today, 49,000 American Troops are still stationed in Japan, and there is no public discussion of the crimes of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

CAST OF CHARACTERS

· The House of Rothschild: international bankers who made enormous profits during the nineteenth century, and used their money to take over governments.

· Bernard Baruch: New York agent of the Rothschilds who at the turn of the century set up the tobacco trust, the copper trust and other trusts for the Rothschilds. He became the grey eminence of the United States atomic bomb program when his lackey, J. Robert Oppenheimer, became director of the Los Alamos bomb development, and when his Washington lackey, James F. Byrnes, advised Truman to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

· Albert Einstein: lifelong Zionist who initiated the United States’ atomic bomb program with a personal letter to President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939.

The world was stunned to learn that India has now tested nuclear weapons. For many years, all nations have been concerned about the proliferation of atomic explosives. Even in their distress, no one seems to be interested in the historic or the psychological record of why these weapons were developed, and what special breed of mankind devoted themselves to this diabolical goal.

Despite the lack of public interest, the record is clear, and easily available to anyone who is interested. My interest in this subject, dormant for many years, was suddenly rekindled during my annual lecture tour in Japan. My hosts had taken me to the city of Nagasaki for the first time. Without telling me their plans, they entered the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Museum. I thought it would be an interesting experience, but, to my surprise, when I walked into the exhibition rooms, I was suddenly overcome by sadness. Realizing that I was about to burst into tears, I moved away from my companions, and stood biting my lip. Even so, it seemed impossible to control myself. I was surrounded by the most gruesome objects, the fingers of a human hand fused with glass, a photograph of the shadow of a man on a brick wall; the man had been vaporized in the explosion.

A NEW MISSION

When I returned to the United States, I knew I had to unearth the sinister figures behind this greatest of human catastrophes. It took many weeks of research to uncover what turned out to be the most far-reaching conspiracy of all time, the program of the entire world, by inventing the most powerful weapon ever unveiled. The story begins in Germany. In the 1930s, Germany and Japan had a number of scientists working on the development of nuclear fission. In both of these countries, their leaders sternly forbade them to continue their research. Adolf Hitler said he would never allow anyone in Germany to work on such an inhumane weapon.

The Emperor of Japan let his scientists know that he would never approve such a weapon. At that time, the United States had no one working on nuclear fission. The disgruntled German scientists contacted friends in the United States, and were told that there was a possibility of government support for their work here. As Don Beyer tells it, these immigrants to the United States pushed their program.

“Leo Szilard, together with his longtime friends and fellow Hungarian physicists, Eugene Wigner and Edward Teller, agreed that the President must be warned; fission bomb technology was not so farfetched. The Jewish émigrés, now living in America, had personal experiences of fascism in Europe. In 1939, the three physicists enlisted the support of Albert Einstein. (A letter dated August 2 signed by Einstein was delivered by Alexander Sachs to Franklin D. Roosevelt at the White House on October 11, 1939.)

CRIMINALS ON DISPLAY

At the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Museum, photographs of two men are prominently displayed: Albert Einstein, and J. Robert Oppenheimer, who developed the atomic bomb at Los Alamos laboratories, New Mexico. Also on display is a statement from General Eisenhower, who was then supreme Military Commander, which is found in a number of books about Eisenhower, and which can be found on page 426, Eisenhower by Stephen E. Ambrose, Simon & Shuster, NY, 1983.

“Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson first told Eisenhower of the bomb’s existence. Eisenhower was engulfed by ‘a feeling of depression’. When Stimson said the United States proposed to use the bomb against Japan, Eisenhower voiced “my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use (of atomic weapons).”

Stimson was upset by Eisenhower’s attitude ‘almost angrily refuting the reasons I gave for my quick conclusion’. Three days later, Eisenhower flew to Berlin, where he met with Truman and his principal advisors. Again Eisenhower recommended against using the bomb, and again was ignored.

Other books on Eisenhower state that he endangered his career by his protests against the bomb, which the conspirators in the highest level of the United States government had already sworn to use against Japan, regardless of any military developments. Eisenhower could not have known that Stimson was a prominent member of Skull and Bones at Yale, the Brotherhood of Death, founded by the Russell Trust in 1848 as a bunch of the German Illuminati, or that they had played prominent roles in organizing wars and revolutions since that time. Nor could he have known that President Truman had only had one job in his career, as a Masonic organizer for the State of Missouri, and that the lodges he built up later sent him to the United States Senate and then to the Presidency.

ATOMIC TERRORISM

The man who set all this in motion was Albert Einstein, who left Europe and came to the United States in October 1933. His wife said that he “regarded human beings with detestation”. He had previously corresponded with Sigmund Freud about his projects of “peace” and “disarmament”, although Freud later said he did not believe that Einstein ever accepted any of his theories. Einstein had a personal interest in Freud’s work because his son Eduard spent his life in mental institutions, undergoing both insulin therapy and electroshock treatment, none of which produced any change in his condition.

When Einstein arrived in the United States, he was feted as a famous scientist, and was invited to the White House by President and Mrs. Roosevelt. He was deeply involved with Eleanor Roosevelt in her many left wing causes, in which Einstein heartily concurred. Some of Einstein’s biographers hail the modern era as “the Einstein Revolution” and “the Age of Einstein”, possibly because he set in motion the program of nuclear fission in the United States. His letter to Roosevelt requesting that the government inaugurate an atomic bomb program was obviously stirred by his lifelong commitment to “peace and disarmament”. [Pause quote.]

Break here, Jonur, and prepare the day’s writing for the OUT BASKET. Hatonn to clear. Salu!

winwin4all

12/13/10 HATONN/jonur (ns28)

Good afternoon, Hatonn present to continue with our lessons and instructions on current unfoldings. Nuclear war is THEIR plan, chelas, and only knowledge about the evil culprits, and how they are doing this to your citizenry, can turn it around. May God’s Wisdom strike in timely fashion. SALU!

ATOMIC WARFARE
(CONT’D)

Jonur, just continue where we left off, please. Thank you for your service.

WHY HIROSHIMA WAS DESTROYED, By Eustace C. Mullins. [Resume quoting:] … His actual commitment was to Zionism; Ronald W. Clark mentions in Einstein; His Life And Times, Avon, 1971, p. 377, “He would campaign with the Zionists for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.” On p. 460, Clark quotes Einstein, “As a Jew I am from today a supporter of the Jewish Zionist efforts.” (1919) Einstein’s letter to Roosevelt, dated August 2, 1939, was delivered personally to President Roosevelt by Alexander Sachs on October 11. Why did Einstein enlist an intermediary to bring this letter to Roosevelt, with whom he was on friendly terms? The atomic bomb program could not be launched without the necessary Wall Street sponsorship. Sachs, a Russian Jew, listed his profession as “economist” but was actually a bagman for the Rothschilds, who regularly delivered large sums of cash to Roosevelt in the White House. Sachs was an advisor to Eugene Meyer of the Lazard Freres International Banking House, and also with Lehman Brothers, another well known banker. Sachs’ delivery of the Einstein letter to the White House let Roosevelt know that the Rothschilds approved of the project and wished him to go full speed ahead.

A UNITED NATIONS PROJECT

In May of 1945, the architects of postwar strategy, or, as they liked to call themselves, the “Masters of the Universe”, gathered in San Francisco at the plush Palace Hotel to write the Charter for the United Nations. Several of the principals retired for a private meeting in the exclusive Garden Room. The head of the United States delegation had called this secret meeting with his top aide, Alger Hiss, representing the President of the United States and the Soviet KGB; John Foster Dulles, of the Wall Street law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, whose mentor, William Nelson Cromwell, had been called a “professional revolutionary” on the floor of Congress; and W. Averil Harriman, plenipotentiary extraordinary, who had spent the last two years in Moscow directing Stalin’s war for survival. These four men represented the awesome power of the American Republic in world affairs, yet of the four, only Secretary of State Edward Stettinius, Jr., had a position authorized by the Constitution. Stettinius called the meeting to order to discuss on urgent matter; the Japanese were already privately suing for peace, which presented a grave crisis. The atomic bomb would not be ready for several more months. “We have already lost Germany,” Stettinius said. “If Japan bows out, we will not have a live population on which to test the bomb.”

“But, Mr. Secretary,” said Alger Hiss, “no one can ignore the terrible power of this weapon.” “Nevertheless,” said Stettinius, “our entire postwar program depends on terrifying the world with the atomic bomb.”

“To accomplish that goal,” said John Foster Dulles, “you will need a very good tally. I should say a million.”

“Yes,” replied Stettinius, “we are hoping for a million tally in Japan. But if they surrender, we won’t have anything.”

“Then you have to keep them in the war until the bomb is ready,” said John Foster Dulles. [Hatonn: The Dulles brothers ran Central Intelligence in those days, and it is this group that plans and carries out “wars” covertly for consumption of you the public.] “That is no problem. Unconditional surrender.”

“They won’t agree to that,” said Stettinius. “They are sworn to protect the Emperor.”

“Exactly,” said John Foster Dulles. “Keep Japan in the war another three months, and we can use the bomb on their cities; we will end this war with the naked fear of all the peoples of the world, who will then bow to our will.”

Edward Stettinius, Jr., was the son of a J.P. Morgan partner who had been the world’s largest munitions dealer in the First World War. He had been named by J.P. Morgan to oversee all purchases of munitions by both France and England in the United States throughout the war. John Foster Dulles was also an accomplished warmonger. In 1933, he and his brother Allen had rushed to Cologne to meet with Adolf Hitler and guaranteed him the funds to maintain the Nazi regime. The Dulles brothers were representing their clients, Kuhn Loeb Co., and the Rothschilds. Alger Hiss was the golden prince of the communist elite in the United States. When he was chosen as head of the prestigious Carnegie Endowment for International Peace after World War II, his nomination was seconded by John Foster Dulles. Hiss was later sent to prison for perjury for lying about his exploits as a Soviet espionage agent. This secret meeting in the Garden Room was actually the first military strategy session of the United Nations, because it was dedicated to its mission of exploding the world’s first atomic weapon on a living population. [H: Without going into Earth man’s earlier history, atomic weapons HAVE been detonated in the past. Sodom and Gomorrah, India, Death Valley in California, even Tunguska in Russia’s remote Siberian North—the secrets of “the bomb” were only RE-DISCOVERED and RE-INTRODUCED to humanity. Much is known about UFO and anti-gravity technology; Nikola Tesla is the father of all that Star Wars weaponry—and this was in the late 1800s! You must understand that massive, long-range planning has gone into the Global 2000/New World Order takeover of a planet. Look at your history and you need not fortune tellers and psychics to predict your future. It is all spelled out in front of you!] It also forecast the entire strategy of the Cold War, which lasted forty-three years, cost American taxpayers five trillion dollars, and accomplished exactly nothing—as it was intended to do. Thus we see that the New World Order has based its entire strategy on the agony of the hundreds of thousands of civilians burned alive at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, including many thousands of children sitting in their schoolrooms. These leaders had learned from their master, Josef Stalin, that no one can rule without mass terrorism, which in turn required mass murder. As Senator Vandenberg, leader of the Republican loyal opposition, was to say (as quoted in American Heritage magazine, August 1977), “We have got to scare the hell out of them.”

THE HELL-BOMB

The atomic bomb was developed at the Los Alamos Laboratories in New Mexico. The top secret project was called the Manhattan Project because its secret director, Bernard Baruch, lived in Manhattan, as did many of the other principals. Baruch had chosen Maj. Gen. Leslie R. Groves to head the operation. He had previously built the Pentagon, and had a good reputation among the Washington politicians, who usually came when Baruch beckoned. The scientific director at Los Alamos was J. Robert Oppenheimer, scion of a prosperous family of clothing merchants. In Oppenheimer; The Years Of Risk, by James Kunetka, Prentice Hall, NY, 1982, Kunetka writes, p. 106, “Baruch was especially interested in Oppenheimer for the position of senior scientific advisor.” The project cost an estimated two billion dollars. No other nation in the world could have afforded to develop such a bomb. The first successful test of the atomic bomb occurred at the Trinity site, two hundred miles south of Los Alamos at 5:29:45 a.m. on July 16, 1945.

Oppenehimer was beside himself at the spectacle. He shrieked, “I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.” Indeed, this seemed to be the ultimate goal of the Manhattan Project, to destroy the world. There had been considerable fear among the scientists that the test explosion might indeed set off a chain reaction, which would destroy the entire world. Oppenheimer’s exultation came from his realization that now his people had attained the ultimate power, through which they could implement their five-thousand-year desire to rule the entire world.

THE BUCK PASSES TO TRUMAN

Although President Truman liked to take full credit for the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, in fact, he was advised by a prestigious group, The National Defense Research Committee, consisting of George L. Harrison, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; Dr. James B. Conant, president of Harvard, who had spent the First World War developing more effective poison gases, and who in 1942 had been commissioned by Winston Churchill to develop an Anthrax bomb [H: Military-grade Anthrax is a very lethal malignant bacterial disease that can kill in mere minutes. There are nuclear-powered missiles WARHEADED WITH ANTHRAX THAT CAN BE LAUNCHED INTER-CONTINENTALLY, AND PINPOINT ANY OF YOUR CITIES. These are some of the secret stashes of weaponry aimed at the innocent citizenry, and not any so-called “enemies” out there. Remember, the intelligence apparatus of each nation is now united, and their common goal is the subjugation of the peoples of the planet into a Global Dictatorship!] to be used on Germany, which would have killed every living thing in Germany. Conant was unable to perfect the bomb before Germany surrendered, otherwise he would have had another line to add to his resume. His service on Truman’s Committee which advised him to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, added to his previous record as a chemical warfare professional, allowed me to describe him in papers filed before the United States Court of Claims in 1957 as “the most notorious war criminal of the Second World War”. As Gauleiter of Germany after the war, he had ordered the burning of my book, The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, ten thousand copies having been published in Oberammergau, the site of the world-famed Passion Play. [H: Mullins’ book lays it all out for you in charts and graphic detail. The “Big Jews” and their control over your nation is through the illegal AND UN-CONSTITUTIONAL Federal Reserve Act! The 16th Amendment and “income tax law” is a scam enacted by these same Zionists to systematically rob America of her gold and resources. TAXES DO NOT GO TO RUNNING YOUR GOVERNMENT! THEY GO DIRECTLY INTO THE POCKETS OF FOREIGN, JEWISH INTERNATIONAL “BANKSTERS”. THE INTEREST ON YOUR NATIONAL DEBT CANNOT EVEN BE PAID! You are being stripped of your liberties as well as all your national assets! They were thy bitter enemy back then—AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED, THE PHARISEES MEAN TO CRUCIFY CHRISTIANITY AT ALL COSTS!]

Also on the committee were Dr. Karl Compton, and James F. Byrnes, acting Secretary of State. For thirty years, Byrnes had been known as Bernard Baruch’s man in Washington. With his Wall Street profits, Baruch had built the most lavish estate in South Carolina, which he named Hobcaw Barony. As the wealthiest man in South Carolina, this epitome of the carpet-bagger [H: For those of you who are familiar with the Clark Gable film classic, “Gone With The Wind”, the “carpet-bagger is known as the conniving Jew, come in to steal the wealth of the South. Through political manipulations and bribery, these evil Khazars worked tirelessly to reap the spoils of the war THEY planned and set up. For this is how nations are “communized”; just divide the people in North and South, etc., etc., and manipulate the masses toward the unseen goal of Global Control.] also controlled the political purse strings. Now Baruch was in a position to dictate to Truman, through his man Byrnes, that he should drop the atomic bomb on Japan.

LIPMAN SIEW

Despite the fact that the Manhattan Project was the most closely guarded secret of World War II, one man and one man only was allowed to observe everything and to know everything about the project. He was Lipman Siew, a Lithuanian Jew who had come to the United States as a political refugee at the age of seventeen. He lived in Boston on Lawrence St., and decided to take the name of William L. Laurence. At Harvard, he became a close friend of James B. Conant and was tutored by him. When Laurence went to New York, he was hired by Herbert Bayard Swope, editor of the New York World, who was known as Bernard Baruch’s personal publicity agent. Baruch owned the World. In 1930, Laurence accepted an offer from the New York Times to become its science editor. He stated in Who’s Who that he “was selected by the heads of the atomic bomb project as sole writer and public relations.” How one could be a public relations writer for a top secret project was not explained. Laurence was the only civilian present at the historic explosion of the test bomb on July 16, 1945. [H: Many do not know how far advanced the Germans were during those early days. The atomic bomb, my friends, was made in Germany!] Less than a month later, he sat in the copilots seat of the B-29 on the fateful Nagasaki bombing run. [Pause quoting.]

Jonur, break here, please, and turn over the day’s writings. Hatonn moving to standby frequency. Salu!

winwin4all

12/16/10 HATONN/jonur (ns29)

Good morning, Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, present in the light of Holy God. Let us continue, please. Amen.

ATOMIC WARFARE
(CONT’D)

Eustace Mullins’ WHY HIROSHIMA WAS DESTROYED is a very good rundown of the behind-the-scenes secret planning of nuclear war. By understanding the “Big Jews” and their manipulation of your government by spies and agents of the evil Rothschild family, it will be easy to see how AND WHY these Zionist/Bolshevik Khazars (false Judean Hebrews calling THEMSELVES “J-E-W”) are desperately trying to trigger Nuclear War I.

Jonur, just pick up where we left off, please. Thank you for your service, chela (student). [Resume quoting:] … Laurence was the only civilian present at the historic explosion of the test bomb on July 16, 1945. Less than a month later, he sat in the copilot’s seat of the B-29 on the fateful Nagasaki bombing run.

WILL JAPAN SURRENDER BEFORE THE BOMB IS DROPPED?

There were still many anxious moments for the conspirators, who planned to launch a new reign of terror throughout the world. Japan had been suing for peace. Each day it seemed less likely that she could stay in the war. On March 9 and 10, 1945, 325 B-29s had burned thirty-five square miles of Tokyo, leaving more than one hundred thousand Japanese dead in the ensuing firestorm. Of Japan’s 66 biggest cities, 59 had been mostly destroyed. 178 square miles of urban dwellings had been burned, 500,000 died in the fires, and now twenty million Japanese were homeless. Only four cities had not been destroyed; Hiroshima, Kokura, Niigata, and Nagasaki. Their inhabitants had no inkling that they had been saved as target cities for the experimental atomic bomb. Maj. Gen. Leslie Groves, at Bernard Baruch’s insistence, had demanded that Kyoto be the initial target of the bomb. Secretary of War Stimson objected, saying that as the ancient capital of Japan, the city of Kyoto had hundreds of historic wooden temples, and no military targets. The Jews wanted to destroy it precisely because of its great cultural importance to the Japanese people.

THE HORROR OF HIROSHIMA

While the residents of Hiroshima continued to watch the B-29s fly overhead without dropping bombs on them, they had no inkling of the terrible fate which the scientists had reserved for them. William Manchester quotes General Douglas MacArthur in American Caesar, Little Brown, 1978, p. 437: “There was another Japan, and MacArthur was one of the few Americans who suspected its existence. He kept urging the Pentagon and the State Department to be alert for conciliatory gestures. The General predicted that the break would come from Tokyo, not the Japanese army. The General was right. A dovish coalition was forming in the Japanese capital, and it was headed by Hirohito himself, who had concluded in the spring of 1945 that a negotiated peace was the only way to end his nation’s agony. Beginning in early May, a six-man council of Japanese diplomats explored ways to accommodate the Allies. The delegates informed top military officials that “our resistance is finished”.

On p. 359, Gar Alperowitz quotes Brig. General Carter W. Clarke, in charge of preparing the MAGIC summary in 1945, who slated in a 1959 historic interview, “We brought them down to an abject surrender through the accelerated sinking of their merchant marine and hunger alone, and when we didn’t need to do it, and knew we didn’t need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs.”

Although President Truman referred to himself as the sole authority in the decision to drop the bomb, in fact he was totally influenced by Bernard Baruch’s man in Washington, James F. Byrnes. Gar Alperowitz states, p. 196, “Byrnes spoke with the authority of—personally represented—the President of the United States on all bomb-related matters in the Interim Committee’s deliberations.” David McCullough, in his laudatory biography of Truman, which was described as “a valentine”, admitted that “Truman didn’t know his own Secretary of State, Stettinius. He had no background in foreign policy, no expert advisors of his own.” The tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was that a weak, inexperienced president, completely under the influence of Byrnes and Baruch, allowed himself to be manipulated into perpetrating a terrible massacre. In the introduction to Hiroshima’s Shadows, we find that “Truman was moving in quite the opposite direction, largely under the influence of Byrnes. The atom bomb for Byrnes was an instrument of diplomacy—atomic diplomacy.” (p. ix)

MASS MURDER

On August 6, 1945, a uranium bomb 3-235, 20 kilotons yield, was exploded 1850 feet in the air above Hiroshima for maximum explosive effect. It devastated four square miles, and killed 140,000 of the 255,000 inhabitants. In Hiroshima’s Shadows, we find a statement by a doctor who treated some of the victims; p. 415, Dr. Shuntaro Hida: “It was strange to us that Hiroshima had never been bombed, despite the fact that B-29 bombers flew over the city every day. Only after the war did I come to know that Hiroshima, according to American archives, had been kept untouched in order to preserve it as a target for the use of nuclear weapons. Perhaps if the American administration and its military authorities had paid sufficient regard to the terrible nature of the fiery demon which mankind had discovered and yet knew so little about its consequences, the American authorities might never have used such a weapon against the 750,000 Japanese who ultimately became its victims.”

Dr. Hida says that, while treating the terribly mangled and burned victims, “My eyes were ready to overflow with tears. I spoke to myself and bit my lip so that I would not cry. If I had cried, I would have lost my courage to keep standing and working, treating dying victims of Hiroshima.”

On p. 433, Hiroshima’s Shadows, Kensaburo Oe declares, “from the instant the atomic bomb exploded, it became the symbol of all human evil; it was a savagely primitive demon and most modern curse …. My nightmare stems from a suspicion that a ‘certain trust in human strength’ or ‘humanism’ flashed across the minds of American intellectuals who decided upon the project that concluded with the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima.”

In the introduction to Hiroshima’s Shadows, we find that “One of the myths of Hiroshima is that the inhabitants were warned by leaflets that an atomic bomb would be dropped. The leaflets Leonard Nadler and William P. Jones recall seeing in the Hiroshima Museum in 1960 and 1970 were dropped after the bombing. This happened because the President’s Interim Committee on the Atomic Bomb decided on May 31 ‘that we could not give the Japanese any warning’. Furthermore, the decision to drop ‘atomic’ leaflets on Japanese cities was not made until August 7, the day after the Hiroshima bombing. They were not dropped until August 10, after Nagasaki had been bombed. We can say that the residents of Hiroshima received no advance warning about the use of the atomic bomb. On June 1, 1945, a formal and official decision was taken during a meeting of the so-called Interim Committee not to warn the populations of the specific target cities. James Byrnes and Oppenheimer insisted that the bombs must be used without prior warning.”

“Closely linked to the question of whether a warning of an atomic bomb attack was given to the civilian populations of the target cities is the third ‘article of faith’ that underpins the American legend of Hiroshima—the belief that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets. The Headquarters of the Japanese Second army were located in Hiroshima and approximately 20,000 men—of which about half, or 10,000 died in the attack. In Nagasaki, there were about 150 deaths among military personnel in the city. Thus, between the two cities, 4.4% of the total death toll was made up of military personnel. In short, more than 95% of the casualties were civilians.”

On p. 39 of Hiroshima’s Shadows we find that (at Hiroshima) “strictly military damage was insignificant.” How are we to reconcile this statement with Harry Truman’s vainglorious boast in Off The Record; the Private Papers of Harry S. Truman, Harper, 1980, p. 304:

“In 1945 I had ordered the Atomic Bomb dropped on Japan at two places devoted almost exclusively to war production.”

In fact, many thousands of the Hiroshima casualties were children sitting in their classrooms.

The bomb was dropped because (p. 35) “The Manhattan Project’s managers were lobbying to use the atomic bomb. Byrnes sat in on these meetings. Maj. Gen. Groves seems to have been the author of the claim that the use of the bomb would save a million American lives—a figure in the realm of fantasy.”

Truman himself variously stated that the use of the atomic bomb saved “a quarter of a million American lives”, a “half-million American lives”, and finally settled on the Gen. Groves figure of “a million American lives saved.”

Meanwhile (p. 64) William L. Laurence, who was writing for the New York Times at full salary while also receiving a full salary from the War Department as the “public relations agent for the atomic bomb”, published several stories in the New York Times denying that there had been any radiation effects on the victims of the Hiroshima bombing (Sept. 5, 1945, et seq.) in which he quotes General Groves’ indignant comment, “The Japanese are still continuing their propaganda aimed at creating the impression we won the war unfairly and thus attempting to create sympathy for themselves.”

(p. 66) “The Legation of Switzerland on August 11, 1945, forwarded from Tokyo the following memorandum to the State Department (which sat on it for twenty-five years before finally releasing it): The Legation of Switzerland has received a communication from the Japanese Government. On August 6, 1945, American airplanes released on the residential district of the town of Hiroshima, bombs of a new type, killing and injuring in one second a large number of civilians and destroying a great part of the town. Not only is the city of Hiroshima a provincial town without any protection or special military installations of any kind, but also none of the neighboring regions or towns constitutes a military objective.”

The introduction to Hiroshima’s Shadows concludes that (p. lxvii) “The claim that an invasion of the Japanese home islands was necessary without the use of the atomic bombs is untrue. The claim that an ‘atomic warning’ was given to the populace of Hiroshima is untrue. And the claim that both cities were key military targets is untrue.”

A PILOT’S STORY

Corroboration of these statements is found in the remarkable record of Ellsworth Torrey Carrington, “Reflections of a Hiroshima Pilot”, (p.9) “As part of the Hiroshima atomic battle plan my B-29 (named Jabbitt III, Captain John Abbott Wilson’s third war plane) flew the weather observation mission over the secondary target of Kokura on August 6, 1945.” (p.10) “After the first bomb was dropped, the atom bomb command was very fearful that Japan might surrender before we could drop the second bomb, so our people worked around the clock, 24-hours-a-day, to avoid such a misfortune.”

This is, of course, satire on Carrington’s part. (p.13) “In city after city all over the face of Japan (except for our cities spared because reserved for atomic holocaust), they ignited the most terrible firestorms in history with very light losses (of B-29s). Sometimes the heat from these firestorms was so intense that later waves of B-29s were caught by updrafts strong enough to loft them upwards from 4 or 5,000 feet all the way up to 8 or 10,000 feet. The major told us that the fire-bombing of Japan had proven successful far beyond anything they had imagined possible and that the 20th Air Force was running out of cities to burn. Already there were no longer (as of the first week in June 1945) any target cities left that were worth the attention of more than 50 B-29s, and on a big day, we could send up as many as 450 planes!” [Pause quote.]

Jonur, break here and get this document to the OUT TRAY.

Hatonn moving to standby.

SALU!

g7enn

Psychologist who deals with MK-Ultra patients told me that he’s only seen a complete cure once and that was where the patient cured herself using a spiritual approach. It seems Cathy O’brien and Brice Taylor (both under mind control at one time) attribute their belief in Christ as life saving.

okumurals

This is so interesting:

ExopoliticsTV Whistleblower Aaron McCollum exposes ET manipulation, false flag at Festival of Enlightenment

An interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtGf7rva-IA

g7enn

I distrust snopes. Probably CIA.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×279288

RAND is CIA.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/blacks-targeted.html

Shortly before William J. Casey became the head of the CIA, he made a speech before the American Bar Association during which he advocated “international agreements to establish commodity reserves and maintain prices”. Hans Heymann, one of Casey’s deputies at the CIA, talked about the “enormous oil inventory building that we’ve had”, and that “we (CIA) developed a system of institutions and codes of conduct that make it far easier for those who influence the international marketplace to exercise that influence”. It is “those who influence the marketplace” who are the oil barons, and they are taking us for hundreds of billions of dollars every year with the aid of almost all Western governments.

1/4/2011 Fletcher Prouty Commentary – June: GREASING THE PALMS OF OIL BARONS

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

hopesprings

Glenn: I really enjoy your posts. Wow.

Mbridges: You are prolific!

mbridges

Very interesting podcast on chem trails. Listen to the A.C. Griffith podcasts (beginning of part2 especially).

A.C. Griffith on Radio America Now, recorded January 2, 2010.

http://radioamerikanow.com/?p=873
January 2, 2010 – A. C. Griffith, Chemtrails

g7enn

MICHAEL HUDSON: US DEBT LARGELY FICTITIOUS

EUROPE UNVEILS SWEEPING PLANS TO GOVERN RECKLESS BANKS

AMERICA’S PENSIONLESS FUTURE

THE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOUR RETIREMENT MONEY

FED RESERVE GAVE $16T TO FOREIGN PRIVATE BANKS

DYLAN RATIGAN: FED GAVE BANKS ACCESS TO $23.7 TRILLION NOT $700 Billion

http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting-blog.html

g7enn

hopesprings

Thanks. I confess I’m very envious of your site. Just terrific. Great job.

wovolve42

hutz – the post on how to find your birth certificate on the stock exchange is great

g7enn- just wanted to say that you have so much great info on your site – the last few video series I watched that were some of the best I’ve seen were on your site

hope- researching the article, can you send the info on Jeffrey Smith- so if we are are traveling in a F16, I want to go to China for chinese food 🙂

wovolve42
hutz777

Your parents gave them the right when they signed your birth certificate. Did you watch that youtube clip with Tim Turner? at 30 minutes, he discusses how our rights were taken away when the birth certificate was signed.
[8:57:48 PM] Peter Wu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838

wovolve42

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=192166

Daley also Worked on NAFTA .. President of SBC, with Al Gore, Beoing, Merck Drugs and a Card carrying member of the CFR !!!

ugmmichael

Jsanta; In Re: 1/6, @ 11:30 pm

Aloha,

You said: “Another interesting message was that we would be “crucified” but not like Jesus on a cross but rather the Christ within would be crucified. I need some of your input on this one.”

I feel you misunderstand the implications of this concept… because you cannot “crucify Christ within”… that work is accomplished! Like He said: “It is finished.” However, there is One you can crucify: it is your (my) ego. This is the barrier to understanding!

I have not “arrived”. I am still on a journey to understanding (I think those who are “interested in Reality” are on the same journey…), but our egos create “barriers” to the TRUTH.

I have my own understanding of Our Divine Thought Adjuster, which I understand is the Father absolute within my being. This is the Spirit of the LORD that speaks to me. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The church is my body temple. To the one who is victorious,(who listens and understands) He (the LORD) will give the right to eat from the Tree of Life. I believe the Tree of Life is ambrosia (the food of the Gods) which is in the paradise of God. This ambrosia is the Christ (anointed) sacrament. With attention upon our LORD, our Divine Adjuster Within, we are now called forth to receive the Christ (anointment) from the Tree of Life to perfect our temple (garden) for ascension into Light for paradise perfection of our heavenly Father, our Divine Thought adjuster.

Respectfully in Love, Life and Light, Always.

ugmmichael

Rebecca on January 7, 2011 @ 1:16 am

Thank you for your response. Your information is absolutely correct.

Respectfully yours always.

XL

Re: Comment by ugmmichael on January 7, 2011 @ 11:55 am

My understanding of your ego is that it is the opposite side of your inner child, the proverbial light/dark issue. You cannot destroy your ego, but you can overfeed it or ignore it, neither of which is healthy for your soul. The key is to balance your ego with your inner child.

I too am learning all this as I go, so I may not be correct, but that is my current understanding.

g7enn

wovolve42

Thanks. The next time I feel like throwing in the
towel, I’ll remember what you said.

hopesprings

Glenn: I am going to add your link to our blogroll at ProjectAwake.

Wo: I will look for his contact and more tomorrow–I was in catch-up all day. I am partial to a curry–Bangalore too?

Gus: Do you need anything for yours? I have a few special people you could interview.

Goodnight all.

wovolve42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XjhPKKISlE

this music video by Avril Lavigne for Alice in Wonderland expresses how I feel right now perfectly!!!

wovolve42

hope – of course, Bangalore too – that would take mere minutes in an F16!!

ugmmichael

Positivechange; In Re: January 6, 2011 @ 7:04 pm

Yes, I believe They are working on that at the present time. It’s just my strong feeling about it, that something is being prepared to share with mankind after First Contact. Maybe something along the line of small personal transports. Training the body itself for use as a transport vehicle. The mind can change the molecular pattern of the body to transcend time and space via particle travel, then reconstitute for physical appearance upon arrival. If one consciously synchronize his electrons over the nucleus of the atomic structure of his body one would not be visible as light would pass right around. No reflection. Therefore, at this point, one only needs a direction which the mind can due via visualization. I believe we are ready to undergo training for same.

g7enn

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Happy New Year – Auld Lang Syne by Sissel

During the “Energy Crisis” of the 1970’s I was detailed to represent the U.S. Railroad industry as a member of the “Federal Staff Energy Seminar” program started by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, sponsored by Georgetown University. That began in Jan 1974 and continued for four years. It was designed to discuss “the working of the United States national energy system, and