The pole-shift in global financial power is almost complete

The process of removing the cabal that has controlled most of the world for the past 300 years is almost complete, according to sources directly involved in the takedown. The takedown is being done by the world’s military, police and intelligence agencies. The group being taken down is the Thule Society, Skull&Bones Nazi conglomerate headed by George Bush Senior. This group was trying to start world war 3 in order to reduce the world’s population by 85% and start a fascist world government. Instead, they will be bankrupted and put in jail. Evidence of the takedown is now becoming visible for all to see. For example the IMF, supposedly the world’s lender of last resort, is saying they have no money to help the Euro. This is publicly available evidence that the post war power structure is ending. The best way to understand what is happening is to take a look at this map:

Cumulative_Current_Account_Balance
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ayeskye

“”The fascists have also been trying to negotiate their way out of this situation. George Bush Senior has contacted a senior US White Dragon Society member and offered “all the money in the world,” in exchange for “being left alone.” Unfortunately for the Nazis, many of them have tried to cling to power too long and are no longer in a position to negotiate immunity for themselves. White Dragon sources in the US agencies say top cabalists like the last four US presidents will go to jail. “”

These guys are WORSE than drug pushers…they ARE the drug pushers, the economic rapists,…wow, you don’t have a name for their TYPE of corruption in the English dictionary…or any other dictionary!

Hmm,..What kind of jail would meet retribution for types of UNREAL. crimes? crimes against humanity to the $^Trillionth power yes the dollar sign included, because that’s what they used as their power workhorses, with all those extra hours they made people toil for the sake of their lives, for the sake of people’s decreasing chances, outlook, and scopes, for survival DO YOU KNOW HOW SCARED WE WERE?!, how else can we convey that message to you? with trying “to make ends meet” becoming more and more taxing and arduous, saddled with a growing list of people believing in a dead end…in America. And that’s just America alone….only 5% of the global population…Let alone the rest of the world.

Don’t even get me started on the people of Africa…. MY PEOPLE! [And the people living there now have a MUCH more RAW and POIGNANT story than I, as I’m only partially African-American, mixed with 1/8th Irish, and 1/16th Native American, a rich history our country has become] WhAT You’VE DoNE! the deliberate continuation of… starvation, chaos, drought, desert, WAR CRIMES, enslavement, since the freakin’ spanish armadas, the people were FINE the way they WERE, and beautiful the way they WERE. They didn’t need YOUR…. “help” infringement, your enslavement… wow, the only retribution is for George Soros and George Bush Sr. himself to start plotting on how they intend to dwell with their next-cell inmate, Satan, which should be fun since that is their partner in crime they’ve been caught in bed with since ‘the beginning of time.’ [Still 4000 B.C. huh?]

Maybe they were ‘psychic’ in that they outlined the very thing that they were afraid of in the King James Bible Book of Revelations …perhaps they ARE the fallen angels angels who ruled for centuries….starting with the apple….petri dishes genetic engineering the whole smash cnn nbc you sons-of-devils]…

ayeskye
ayeskye

“The fascists have also been trying to negotiate their way out of this situation. George Bush Senior has contacted a senior US White Dragon Society member and offered “all the money in the world,” in exchange for “being left alone.” Unfortunately for the Nazis, many of them have tried to cling to power too long and are no longer in a position to negotiate immunity for themselves.”

–UHHH –HHO!

Perhaps you would like to join me….

I just would like to say to George Bush, Sr. and George Soros…

*lights dim*

It’s Too Late to Apologize by Timbaland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM3w1v-A_Y

“It’s too LATE to apologize, it’s too LATE
I said it’s too late to apologiiize, it’s too LAYYYTE”

Come on, you all are….

“too LATE to apologize, it’s too LAAAAAATE
I said it’s too late to apologiiize, it’s too LAAAAYYYTE”

merek

Kohala Aloha…Me and three friends have personally checked for radiation at multiple locations in and around Tokyo and have found none. Rense is in California, I live 120 miles from Fukushima. If there was a real problem I would be worried.
Benjamin Fulford
Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 9:31 pm

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Merek, you obviously have some accurate knowledge about radiation, but I am more inclined to believe Fulford as to the hazard in his area. I think he has much more personal integrity than to intentionally twist the facts to suit “Japan Inc.” Checking for radiation at multiple locations is hardly unscientific.

Kohala ,Denial ,the river…..5 major meltdowns ,not
shut down even today, many independant monitoring reports from all over Honshu preficture are available. I expect Ben should monitor all non governmental Japanese sources for a
picture that not self serving of business or government,
Also radiation travels in dust wind and rain ,one block could be very hot and a few blocks away nothing readable ,this is the nature of the beast. but several of the reactors have
melted through containment (can you say China Syndrome?)
and the Japanese plan to burn contaminated materials rather than bury will spread the radiation like the wild firesburning chernobyl forests
spread radiation all over Moscow .And all over the Northern Hemisphere .
This STUPIDITY to attempt to decontaminate and disipate the cesium and plutonium via smoke is absolute bull shit and unjustified,
Sorry All ,but wishful thinking can never solve any natural or unnatural wide spread disaster ,and Ben is a press mouthpiece for certin world powers and reformers and for this I am thankful but his it’s all Ok ,no problems, no danger, back to business
as usual means they have no real plans and have decided to drive on and eat the farm goods , even Okinawa
is receiving radioactive cabbages from Honshu and the sea greens,kelp ,local bottom fishand shell fish will have accumulated radioactice poisons, Desire cannot trump scientific reality and make the danger just dissolve . Kohala ,have you missed or unread the great varity of internal japanese reports individual and press and university reports on the Fukishima situation I have been posting since March. ,They were not my opinions. Japan has suffered a 25,000 year poisoning and all of Bens local reports are very different from those others who are monitoring daily for the Universities news reports ,Also the government has been so very irresponsible. yes there is little the Japanese can do to decontaminate without burying wastes and the dangers continue until all is capped and the reactions of the melt throughs extinguished. Ben ,the amounts you are getting may well be minsicule however one Alpha or beta particle breathed or ingested can begin the cancer or child leukemia cellular changes .
Life will go on in Japan they have no other choice, stiff upper lips and all that …….the IAEC has far different views about the extent of the disaster.
For Ben walking around with a gieger counter may or may not disclose ,I suggest Ben monitor around the dumps and trash burning facilities that have already tested positive in Toyko. also monitor after rainstorms and dust on roofs and vechiles, Rain also washes the environment putting radiation into the sewer systems and helps to diminish standing radiation over time. one cheap protection is to were those masks that you see everywhere to prevent the spreading of flu’s and colds, they protect from breathing dust and are cheap.

flagged
flagged

@Caleb & all

re: Yes, I think Flagged could reference the well known book “The Fourth Reich”

Flagged

You dropped a stink bomb by giving good marks to George Bush.

caleb

If you call the below quotes good marks, that is your twist on what i said.

My saying he doesnt impress me as a wicked and nefarious man, doesn’t = good marks. it just means what it means.

“bush’s names are thrown around quite a bit here in a bad view. As for me, personally, I don’t get the impression that G.w.bush is a wicked or nefarious man, last i checked.”

“Trust me i don’t like his politics you know that. i guess i just never got the dirt on him.”

caleb

keep pedaling, ok?

keep pedaling.

flagged
flagged

@
re:. .. .There is a wealth of information on this blog alone that deals in … Jnr Bushes crimes against humannity!!!!!

I posted a link ages ago, Hutz posted the same link recently…so go check out ..this info

by gerard on October 10, 2011 @ 6:46 pm

thanks , i didnt think to go back =i just learned how to search the blog and haven’t been on terribly long.

Im no fan of bush jr., i just like to hear facts precluding the name calling. it gives it significant meaning, wherein it otherwise it has little.

pansy
pansy

Kohala,

It is SO weird that you said this: “Almost as if they are considering us as a possible dessert course”.

After reading the term ‘sweet ones’ for about the 4th time, a picture of the Twilight Zone episode called “Serving Man” popped into my head and then I got real uneasy. So, it seems we are very much on the same ‘gut page’.

Thanks for your feedback.

Pansy

Edge
Edge

New comments-posted–

aneeson
aneeson

If your gut puts out a red flag, as ours did, steer clear.

Comment by kohala889 on October 11, 2011 @ 10:31 am
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Thanks Kohala for you input – I value your judgement and will test mine too.

Namaste,
Alan.

kohala889
kohala889

Pansy, I had a very similar reaction to the use of the words “sweet ones”. Almost as if they are considering us as a possible dessert course. It made me very suspicious of the source. We need to be extremely discerning of all channeled sources. If your gut puts out a red flag, as ours did, steer clear.

aneeson
aneeson

Comment by jtgun2 on October 11, 2011 @ 10:25 am

Hi jtgun2,

Your question is …?

Namaste,
Alan.

jtgun2
jtgun2

Positive future for the money jews and their slaves the freemasons?

pansy
pansy

Comment by aneeson on October 11, 2011 @ 10:11 am

Thanks Alan,

I can only explain my reaction as being ‘from my gut’. I’ll be interested in hearing your comments after you’ve had a chance to read it…should you choose to do that.

Thanks!

Pansy

aneeson
aneeson

Comment by pansy on October 11, 2011 @ 9:45 am

Hi Pansy,

I have copied this and other items to a word doc for reading once I have finished work.

However I agree with you that these types of terms do sound a bit condescending and tend to make me suspect of the content.

In a way it is good to read the channelings to see what is “out there” – I must try truth testing them too, but not that good at it yet.

It is hard to decide what is real and what is disinfo or simply a method of communication for people who “expect” that sort of language – we are all different, so I suppose different formats are used to gain attention from different audiences.

The main decider for me is if the content is positive or fear inducing. I steer clear from the latter as I only want to concentrate on a positive future and believe that WE DO create our own reality.

Namaste,
Alan.

jtgun2
jtgun2

Get ready for jew world order.

rebecca
rebecca

This is a short update from David Wilcock’s site http://www.divinecosmos.com

NOTE SUNDAY 10/10: I am sorry that I did not get a chance to update this article when I said I would. In the past week I have left home on two different occasions for extremely important meetings, both of which have highly positive ramifications.

These meetings and locations were completely different, but have some commonalities. In the first case I made the decision within 24 hours of when I departed, and in the second case I literally woke up, got the message, made the decision and was on a plane within four hours.

I apologize for being circumspect, but for security reasons I cannot disclose what either of these meetings are about. Suffice it to say that I am still working on the next article and intend to release it ASAP, though the thrust of the new info is in the above updates.]

Malia6
Malia6

Channeling is Fake:

Billy Meier Contact Notes 118/158:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJZtDdOYO9k&NR=1

Malia6
Malia6

anonymous on October 11, 2011 @ 8:22 am

Going on my own intuition I would say the disasters are not likely at this time but in general I’m not relying on channelings as I have learned that they can easily also provide disinfo once they have you relying on them.

At some point they may be used for disinfo if they have not already. Not just using this example.

pansy
pansy

Question…did anyone else read the Message from the Elders: We Enter the Final Day of the Mayan Calendar?

It was posted as a link earlier and is found on the Healers Journal. The reason I’m asking is that it really gave me the creeps everytime they used the words “sweet ones” and they used that term in excess of 20 or 30 times. It became so unsettling that I finaly quit reading the article. While the term ‘dear ones’ from many of the Galactic channelings doesn’t sit really well either, ‘sweet ones’ is REALLY not sitting well with me.

Did anyone else have this reaction? I’m trying to figure out why I am so spiritually creeped out by these words and therefore this article.

Thanks for feedback.

Here’s a link if you missed it: http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/message-from-the-elders-we-enter-the-final-day-of-the-mayan-calendar/

Pansy

kohala889
kohala889

President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist. Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.
Comment by merek on October 11, 2011 @ 4:23 am

Obama, the Lighted One?

We of the Galactic Federation are also your Guides in more general terms, and our influence is directed to those who are in positions of power and authority. As now, we are helping those who aspire to lead you out of the present period of chaos. It is not easy for such souls as the dark cabal still has its minions all over the world, and they are obstacles to getting things done. One who has experienced it is President Obama, the Lighted One who is for the time being outnumbered by those who oppose what he tries to do.

However, we are taking actions that are rapidly diminishing the power that they have held for millennia of time. Already their ability to stop our progress has been stemmed, and our allies are ready to strike the fatal blow. We are fully prepared for our next moves that will work towards finally seeing the dark Ones removed.

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/salusa-lightworkers-create-the-path-for-massive-change/

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Merek, perhaps Obama is on the verge of mending his ways and divorcing himself from the cabal. He is after all a masterful politician and strategist. Probably not stupid enough to continue on his former course and face arrest, as Hillary and Geithner will. Particularly if he can emerge a hero instituting real change by restoring the original Constitution and then resigning as a token of sincerity.
(That could happen?)

valtony
valtony

1,666

kohala889
kohala889

Me and three friends have personally checked for radiation at multiple locations in and around Tokyo and have found none. Rense is in California, I live 120 miles from Fukushima. If there was a real problem I would be worried.
Benjamin Fulford
Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 9:31 pm

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Merek, you obviously have some accurate knowledge about radiation, but I am more inclined to believe Fulford as to the hazard in his area. I think he has much more personal integrity than to intentionally twist the facts to suit “Japan Inc.” Checking for radiation at multiple locations is hardly unscientific.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by wovolve42 on October 11, 2011 @ 7:25 am

I wouldn’t worry about disasters. The latest message from Matthew has this:

“…..none of these will happen either: military coups as oppressive as the corrupt governments they ousted; railroad cars transporting thousands to internment camps; biological warfare; holographic displays of an alien invasion as reason to impose martial law; manmade geophysical events that will destroy thousands of miles of coastline; a food shortage so severe that the wealthy will hoard food and the rest of the world will starve; and the control of drinking water.”

http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/matthew10-10-11.html

Grendizer

Is there a financial catastrophy looming ahead? …was the question.

Grendizer

Grendizer

Two minute warning? – Recorded October 5, 2011

Is there a financial looming ahead? To understand the current financial situation read my Glass-Steagall article above.

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/europe/two-minute-warning-.html

Grendizer

Malia6
Malia6

I have noticed that whenever there is a holiday in Canada such as today, the new report is delayed about a day.

Maybe Ben is in Japan but his webmast is in Canada?

one possibility…as it seems to depend on when the webmast can post this information.

zantor
zantor

good link on basic pyramid dimensions

http://www.aiwaz.net/dimensions-of-great-pyramid/a23

wovolve42
wovolve42
lew3
lew3

Ben does live in Japan and is a Japanese citizen, as I understad it. note that it is just past 7 am in Japan.

K-Puppy

Hidden Sources Of MSG In Foods:

* Food Additives that ALWAYS contain MSG *

Monosodium Glutamate
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein
Hydrolyzed Protein
Hydrolyzed Plant Protein
Plant Protein Extract
Sodium Caseinate
Calcium Caseinate
Yeast Extract
Textured Protein (Including TVP)
Autolyzed Yeast
Hydrolyzed Oat Flour
Corn Oil

http://www.rense.com/general35/hidd.htm

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

She riff M ack – Leader – Sheriff’s Begin Revolt Against Federal Authority
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRfkXK13KM

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

[4:07:56 PM] Louis: [Sunday, October 09, 2011 5:04 PM] Louis:

<<< Sheriff Mack – Leader – Sheriff's Begin Revolt Against Federal Authority
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRfkXK13KM

aneeson
aneeson

It is a holiday in Canada.

Could this be why Benjamin has not posted?

Comment by darylluke on October 11, 2011 @ 6:54 am
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I thought Ben lived in Japan?

Must be late because he is still getting all the info for this week?

Namaste,
Alan.

darylluke
darylluke

It is a holiday in Canada.

Could this be why Benjamin has not posted?

aneeson
aneeson

Thanks K-Puppy for those links to pyramid plans.

Namaste,
Alan.

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

: Comment by merek on October 11, 2011 @ 6:06 am
Comment by merek on October 11, 2011 @ 6:06 am
[5:11:05 PM] : Please tell merek “God love em” for saying it… Orbs

K-Puppy

Hi Alan and Foreman,

Building Pyramids at home:

Here are some interesting plans based on the Egyptian pyramids:

http://www.gizamap.com/sub/download/Design_Plans1.pdf

http://www.gizamap.com/sub/download/Design_Plans2.pdf

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and Ya’All

A video to contemplate on, at this of Economic Crisis. The People Occupying Wall Steet want to know this information.

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/financial-meltdown-the-men-who-crashed-the-world-video/

aneeson
aneeson

Comment by lew3 on October 11, 2011 @ 4:02 am

Thank you Lew, I had forgotten that in her book – read it a couple of years ago. Shows we should re-read some things to keep us focussed.

Namaste,
Alan.

merek

Our Ben Fulford has constantly downplayed any radiation danger to Toyko , of all his accurate and inaccurate information ,this denial is the most self serving to Japan Inc.
Those who point to the lack of deaths as proof ,have not kept up on the deaths of Fukishima workers. also radiation exposer takes some years to cause mutations ,Hope you all looked at the photo’s of Japanese plant mutations posted this week .
It would be far better to publically admit of the serious nature of this situation and work to prevent the scheduled burning of radioactive wastes , this like the fires around
Chernobyl that brought very high readings as a result to Moscow .Burying all this waste is far more useful.Burning would only contaminate the Northern Hemisphere further .
Personally I believe that the government switcheroos
carried on by each successive musical chairs changes of corrupt leadership are only beholding to Corporate interests. Ben better open a primer on radiation and further his science education ,as he is terribily wrong in his unscientific opinion after all his expertise is business journalism, right?

aneeson
aneeson

Comment by tasteslikecrayons on October 11, 2011 @ 12:27 am

Hi Foreman,

Just acknowleding your post. Yes we must keep in touch. I will be trying out a smaller scale pyramid first to see that I get the angles and dimensions correct. It will be big enough for a glass of water and I will then check the results.

After that I would like to build one big enough for my wife and I to be inside and to lie down in as well as sit and meditate. But I would like to experiment with sleeping inside one too.

Namaste,
Alan.

aneeson
aneeson

In short, get what you think you will need, but do not obsess about it. The law of attraction is working overtime for the next few years and what you envision happening will happen.

Trust your guides, and you will be safe regardless of what happens.

Comment by XL on October 10, 2011 @ 9:12 pm .

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Hi XL,

Well said! If we concentrate on the positive that is what will eventuate for us.

It is so good to be reminded of these fundamental laws of the universe because the “conditionning” that we are all subjected to so often leads us into being blinded by yje cabal’s smoke screens.

Thanks again XL for all you post – I read them with much interest.

Namaste,
Alan.

merek

CAPE TOWN Oct 8 (Reuters) – China is built on lies and its officials are hypocrites, the Dalai Lama said on Saturday, speaking via videophone after visa problems prevented him from joining Archbishop Desmond Tutu’s birthday celebrations in South Africa.

“Some Chinese officials describe me as a demon,” the Tibetan spiritual leader said to loud applause as he put his index fingers either side of his head to mimic devil’s horns.

“In reality, for the communist totalitarian system … hypocrisy (and) telling lies has unfortunately become part of their lives.”

He said the Chinese government was “uncomfortable” with people who tell the truth, adding that honest people live longer and he would like to attend Tutu’s 90th birthday.

“At that time, don’t forget to send me an invitation … then we can test your government,” he said to Tutu in an apparent reference to his visa debacle with South African authorities.

The government’s failure to allow the Dalai Lama into the country has been seen as bowing to pressure from China, South Africa’s largest trading partner that pledged to invest $2.5 billion in Africa’s largest economy last week.

The 80-year old Tulku retired about a year ago from most public duties but has remained a prominent figure and is still seen as a voice of integrity

merek

The towers of fraud are tumbling..
“Paulson loses more in September, fund now off 47 percent
By Svea Herbst-Bayliss | Reuters – Sat, Oct 8, – Hedge fund manager John Paulson lost more money in September thanks to ill-timed bets on an elusive economic recovery that left one of his biggest funds off 47 percent, two people who saw the numbers said on Saturday.

Paulson & Co, one of the world’s five biggest hedge funds, released the numbers to investors late on Friday just hours before many on Wall Street headed off for a holiday weekend.

The Advantage Plus fund, which uses some borrowed money to help boost returns, tumbled 19.35 percent last month, leaving it off 46.73 percent for the year, the firm told clients.

A spokesman for Paulson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Saturday.

September’s double digit drop at Paulson ensures him a spot as one of the industry’s very biggest losers this year. While many other fund managers, including Lee Ainslie and Leon Cooperman, are also nursing losses, none are as dramatic as the Paulson drop, investors said. The average hedge fund lost 2.81 percent last month and is now off 4.74 percent for the year, according to data from Hedge Fund Research.

Speculation had mounted all week that Paulson’s September losses would be large as stocks tumbled again last month. But these numbers still packed a punch, several people said.

The Paulson numbers were first reported on Friday evening by Absolute Return Magazine.

Early next week the billionaire hedge fund manager, who shot to fame and fortune thanks to his savvy bet against the subprime housing market, is scheduled to explain what went wrong in a conference call to investors on Tuesday.

But several people who have money with him scoffed at the idea that a manager who seemingly could do no wrong for years will now try to explain away his career’s biggest loss.
I don’t think I need to listen to his excuses, it would be like rubbing salt in the wounds,” said one disgruntled client, who asked not to be named because he is not permitted to discuss the private fund’s returns in public.

Time is now ticking for Paulson as his investors have less than one month left to decide whether to pull their money out of the Advantage Funds — the firm’s biggest — by the October 31 notice deadline.”

TO STAY OR TO GO

A decision about whether to get out might be tricky, several investors have said. Some clients, particularly those who got in only recently through big banks’ wealth management platforms, might be willing to hang on for a little longer, reasoning that Paulson, who had so many winning years before, is bound to recover. Last year the Advantage Plus fund gained 18 percent.”

But others argue that the manager, who is widely liked in the industry and often described as a modest and thoughtful man, has lost his magic touch.
…………………………………………………..

( his magic touch only worked as long as the were no regulations and he could manipulate
without oversights)
………………………………………………….
“Bets on big bank stocks like Bank of America turned against him, and now even his call on gold, which had paid off handsomely last year, appeared to be off, these people said.

Paulson’s gold fund, which includes the metal and mining companies, lost 16.35 percent last month and trimmed its year-to-date gain to 1.34 percent.”

(Editing by Eric Beech)
(secondary editing by Merek)

wovolve42
wovolve42

Sierra, and to all those in Canada- Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Im thankful for the people I love, the people that make me laugh and that piss me off..LOL. Im thankful that I have had the opportunity to meet you all on the blog, for the sometimes painful but always enlightening information I have found here. Im thankful for the earth, all the beauty that is here, and for the love that I have and will continue to experience.

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal Breaking News October 10th, 2011

Message from the Elders: We Enter the Final Day of the Mayan Calendar

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/message-from-the-elders-we-enter-the-final-day-of-the-mayan-calendar/

Matthew: A Glimpse of the Golden Age to Come

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/matthew-a-glimpse-of-the-golden-age-to-come/

Occupy the London Stock Exchange

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/occupy-the-london-stock-exchange/

Saul: Changing Your Beliefs Leads to Freedom

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/saul-changing-your-beliefs-leads-to-freedom/

SaLuSa: Lightworkers Create the Path for Massive Change

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/salusa-lightworkers-create-the-path-for-massive-change/

Hilarion: New Energies Bring Changes to Your Being

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/10/hilarion-new-energies-bring-changes-to-your-being/

+ Be Well +

Truth

vlastimil
vlastimil

From The Secret Daily Teachings

LEW3

Of course agreed, Plato was pretty right. Anyhow intellectual understanding is a big step but not enough. To get into the stage where you can re-write your scrip, clean it and redesign in case you wish, is a long way to go. Today we have many tools. It works I know, you can maintain yourself into circumstances of matrix you design and this will keep you moving. GOOD LUCK

merek

Another set up by those who would corrupt the good work
carried on here:
Comment by anonymous on October 10, 2011 @ 11:03 pm

I’m a really good looking 15 year old boy with a great tan and body.
Comment by anonymous on October 10, 2011 @ 11:05 pm

vlastimil
vlastimil

Merek

Obama departing his master and fellow cabal??
Well I do not trust Zagami when he departed from illuminati, for our eyes. So I do keep my doors open about OBAMA doing the same, he does it, he gets elected and they have him there as they wanted though some of whom might be gone but illunati agenda will live. It will not die with 10 or what imprisoned leaders.

I do not know. I do not trust them.

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2011/10/qatar-investors-to-buy-dexias-luxembourg-bank/
Vlastik

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

I meant the blood type AO-
I have a friend here that wants to know

merek

“The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.
Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions”
……………………………………………………

So Obama isn’t listening to Geithner or Hillary Clinton , Good ,Maybe Barry soetero Obama is finally divorcing himself from the banksters that lied to and corrupted his adminstration from the beginning, His Chicago king making
Khazar dual loyalists have essentially gone along with
the NWO banking cabal and failing war industries ,some of our military, with 5 combat tours are still dangling in the breeze of the unwinnable and bloody Afghan religious war
the is only one concievable out come to the present
untenable situation….JUBILEE and the collapse of the major banks before nationalization.
Belgium’s Dexia’s derivative collapse will spread world wide and
the debts will
eventually
be repudiated due to the blatent criminality of the
criminal operations themselves( ie the selling of our criminally bundled mortgage
security to foreign holders of this T- paper .
Since the Fed Reserve is PRIVATE and notto big to fail, ,It needs to fail
for our nations financial survival!
Treasury debt we can deal with however since we are not socialized we need not worry about the Fed Reserve debt frauds ,If Obama shuts em down He will be famous for as long as there are American history books As the American and European financial savior.

Grendizer

WHAT GLASS-STEAGALL IS SUPPOSED TO DO?

Initially the Glass-Steagall Act was enacted under Roosevelt with his New Deal Program to put people back to work and by separating the activities of commercial banks from the investment banks due to the inherent conflict of interest. Prior to the 1929 October crash there were no separations between these two entities. Banks could use your bank deposits to speculate them on the stock market.

Money was plentiful during the roaring 20s and as long as the market was going up, banks and people were encouraged to invest their money in the stock market until it totally crashed in 1929 just to see the entire savings of many people being whipped out in one single day.

Glass-Steagall was repealed in 1999 and 2000 under the Clinton administration which created the same environment where the lack of regulation allowed banks to speculate with people’s saving just like before 1929. The adverse affect of speculation is that it destroys productions by destroying the capital. It is parasitical in nature and adds no value to the economy:

« 4. In order to give the GOYIM no time to think and take note, their minds must be diverted towards industry and trade. Thus, all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain and in the race for it will not take note of their common foe. But again, in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate and ruin the communities of the GOYIM, we must put industry on a speculative basis: the result of this will be that what is withdrawn from the land by industry will slip through the hands and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes. » (PROTOCOL No. IV, IV; THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION; http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion3.htm#PROTOCOL%20No.%204)

If Glass-Steagall is re-enacted those toxic assets the banks are holding and trading with are going to be written down or written off. There needs to be a firewall between investment banking and commercial banking. No speculation is allowed for commercial banking and if you’re an investment bank and you’re buying and selling toxic waste to your clients, that is a violation of SCC laws and you should go to jail.

In this kind of environment when the times are good banks make a profit, but when the times are bad they make losses. And when they make bad deals, these banks get bailed out by tax payers’ money to cover the losses after gambling with people’s savings because they are so-called “too big to fail”, which is the situation that has created this financial meltdown and we’ve allowed ourselves to be in.

The Glass-Steagall Act gave the United States 50 years of stability and by repealing twice in its history (1985 and 1999) it produced the worse kind of situation for the economy. The Glass-Steagall Act prevents investment banks from accessing your bank savings and to gamble it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjY7up5g4sQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbHtRJ14WGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPg8fDYq_Q

Grendizer

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What space brother is AO-

wovolve42
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http://youtu.be/MzKP1krj_zE

Celente: We Think the Crash Is Going to Happen Sometime This Month — 03 October 2011

anonymous
anonymous

Vote for this!

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lew3
lew3

From The Secret Daily Teachings
Your body is exactly like a movie projector, and the film running through the projector is all of your thoughts and feelings. Everything you see on the screen of your life is what has been projected from within you, and is what you have put into the film.

By choosing higher thoughts and feelings you can change what you see on the screen at any time. You have complete control of what goes into your film!

May the joy be with you,

Rhonda Byrne
The Secret… bringing joy to billions

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Denver Airport ALL EXPLAINED Rationally!! Elenin Nibiru – by jokoyes
http://www.youtube.com/user/jokoyes?feature=grec

lew3
lew3

sierra and all of our friends in Canada and especially B.C., Happy Thanks giving Day! I am especialoly grateful for the wonderful McIntosh apples from B.C. I enjoyed the first of this season this morning – delicious!

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://youtu.be/RgCJzJVQXm0

SEAL TEAM 6 Assassinated-WhistleBlower Talks!

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ XL and others,

Yes, I believe that we can move mountains if we believe and doubt not. Collectively, we can accomplish much change through agreement and corresponding actions that are consistent with our faith. We have to believe what is true, as the PTB would like to align themselves for evil purposes and that does not work in the long term. If we keep on sowing seeds looking toward the eventual garden that we wish to cultivate, we will have much JOY down the road when we reap.

I have a witness in my spirit that there truly is a global change taking place of great magnitude. I wait for the evidences to line up, and for the proclamation via reports from Ben and others. It is sometimes tempting to FRET, so it’s nice to have others to gently guide me/us back to that place where we are at REST and not STRIVING.

Thanks for your wisdom!

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99% to Bankers: We’ve Got the Guillotine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCP97AWXlZU&feature=feedu

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Fat Cats in Crossfire: Occupy Wall St. aims for all streets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GLw3OBWLfs&feature=feedu

sierra
sierra

Happy Thanksgiving Day, Canada.

I’m just about to make my gratitude and appreciation list, and invite everyone to take a few minutes and also consider the things you are most grateful for. No limits to how many gratitudes, but aim for one or two more than you initially come up with.

This can be a private experience, or you can share your list if you are so inclined.

Let’s lift the energies and spirits a bit today.

Thank you (in advance) for your participation. (My first appreciation is to this group and the sharing and support offered here. )

Sierra

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It’s the water you drink, bath in and pay for. It’s the water you
rely on, because you have to have it. And it’s irradiated.

In this program, you’ll find out how scientists found your drinking
water could pose a 1 in 400 cancer risk.

This is the third installment of ‘A Matter of Risk’.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/5187.html

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Aquarius – The Age of evil *Full Documentary*
Bless mi brethrens and sistrens in christ.

This Documentary leadeth far more to the truth, than all others I found on Youtube so far. Whether thou art are a beliver, or an atheist,

This is THE Documentary so far…

Thanks to “Keith Truth”, for making this Documentary

This is the whole Documentary in one file, so take your time 🙂

Greetings and may Yah bless ye all, in the name of Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgtc_Dhnlr0&feature=email

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10/10/2011 — ‘HAARP ring’ outbreak Texas north to Nebraska
Watch these areas for the next 24-72 hours *adding one day out to the forecast due to the size of the ring outbreak*

Lubbock Texas

Amarillo Texas

Midland Texas

North Through Kansas .. Colby and Goodland Kansas

Into Nebraska — north of North Platte .. at the highway intersection of hwy 92 & Hwy 2

Links to view RADAR and satellite are below:

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMapFull.aspx

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/index.php

http://www.intelliweather.com/Broadcast.htm

http://weather.unisys.com/radar/rcm_radar.php

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com

http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/archive/satimgs_month_arch.html

http://nmq.ou.edu/

http://wdssii.nssl.noaa.gov/web/wdss2/products/radar/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/tropicalwx/satpix/

http://www.inmet.gov.br/html/observacoes.php

http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/enhanced.php?map=2

http://cirrus.sprl.umich.edu/wxnet/radsat.php

http://vortex.pl… More

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Powerful Inspirational true story…Don’t give up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZlXWp6vFdE

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Here’s what I wrote on Friday related to the DEXIA issue…
“One of the largest derivative players in Europe is imploding as we speak. This will destroy ALL derivative markets across every continent. Watch for a bailout followed by massive market manipulation next week… followed by a total collapse.”

The bailout happened as expected this weekend and now we are in the “massive market manipulation next week” part. Stock markets are being pumped up by the banksters to hide the truth and to support the world’s financial system a bit longer…but it will fail.

After this comes the “total collapse”.

Clif High of http://www.halfpasthuman.com has posted an update on his website related to his predictions of when the REAL chaos will start. You can find it here:

Funeral For A Zombie
http://halfpasthuman.com/grunch.html

“Our data suggests that the most likely target date will be October 17th (a Monday), after very shocking developments emerge on October 15th.”

This falls right in line with my “Time Line” article that I wrote back in July:

“The markets may start to seriously convulse by late September/early October with the realization by the public that there never was a real recovery and it was all the hocus-pocus of Larry Summers and Austan Goolsbee with their “Behavioral Economics Model”.

What follows will be the total and complete destruction of all paper and electronic “assets” over a period of chaotic months. All the pieces are in place to take down the banksters once and for all but it won’t be pleasant. It’s more like ripping off a bandaid.

Here’s a very important article back in January…

Transition 2011 & the Tree of Liberty
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/479.cfm

We have waited a long, long time to arrive at the end of this Road and I hope you have all prepared (the best you can).

May the Road you choose be the Right Road.

Bix Weir
http://www.RoadtoRoota.com

To join the Private Road and gain access to the “Time Line” article as well as over 600 more articles on gold and silver manipulation click here:

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/10.cfm

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Because the United States has become a nation of idiots instead of freemen they are, likewise, completely blind to the monstrosity of the country they are helping to create wherein from the time they are born, to the time they are told to die, these people will live in an Orwellian World devoid of any meaning and subject to the most brutal methods of control ever designed by an elite class to control the masses.

From their President Obama now having the power to assassinate any citizen he so chooses, and the CIA warned could now be allowed to kill journalists, and the FBI about to deploy a nationwide facial recognition system in order to track those citizens with no ties to terror groups but who are warned pose a “serious national security threat,” and the US Department of Homeland Security beginning testing of their “Pre-Crime Detection System” designed to jail those who have not committed a crime, but maybe will, one can, indeed, see the words George Orwell wrote in his seminal work 1984 coming alive into today’s America:

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“It used to be routine practice to try to sterilize Indian women…”

Documents acquired by the American Indian movement demonstrated a
vast and secret plan was being carried out by the government to
sterilize women and reduce the Native American population.

Columbus Day is the best day of all to be mindful of how the
natives have been treated by the government, AFTER having had their
lands stolen from them…

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/3094.html

secondlife
secondlife

Just looking at the month of October and realized it has 5 Saturdays, 5 Sundays and 5 Mondays… not sure it means anything, but I know it doesn’t happen often. We had 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays back in July… Hummm.
Just passing time and waiting on Ben… wondering if he may skip this week, since he only guarantees 4 posts a month. 😕 Anyway… best to all… Be Safe and Be Well

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kraxx
that is cool …glad to be in sinc with you

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It’s Columbus Day, kids, and that means it’s time to honor a man “who, if he were alive today, would almost certainly be sitting on Death Row awaiting execution.”

Eric Kasum, writing for HuffPo commemorates the holiday by recounting the true tale of Christopher Columbus, who set foot on a sandy Bahamian beach in 1492 and promptly enslaved the hospitable islanders (who rescued the crew and cargo of the shipwrecked Santa Maria). Within two years, half of the 250,000-strong population was dead.

He oversaw the sale of native girls into sexual slavery, killed babies to use as dog food, and had soldiers cut off the hands of workers who didn’t meet their gold dust quota—prompting 100 to commit mass suicide. Why don’t we learn about this in school, Kasum asks. “Columbus himself kept detailed diaries, as did some of his men. (If you don’t believe me, just Google the words Columbus, sex slave, and gold mine.)” He continues, “Call me crazy, but I think holidays ought to honor people who are worthy of our admiration. Let’s boycott this outrageous holiday because it honors a mass murderer.”

Perhaps it’s time we take a second look at those we celebrate. Clearly Christopher Columbus would never stand the scrutiny.

ED: Post updated on October 10, 2011.

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The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum.
The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.
Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN#ixzz1aOedO2lU

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http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587521/201110100805/51-Dont-Want-Second-Term-For-President-Obama.htm
By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked “someone new deserves a chance” over Obama “deserves to be re-elected.” Among independents, it was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%, respectively.

kraxxx
kraxxx

Ouch! Some weird synchronicity with you Hutz 🙂

kraxxx
kraxxx

Latest from Sorcha:

Russia Issues “Revolution Alert” For United States
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1526.htm

“… over fears the Obama regime is preparing to instigate a revolution for the purpose of their being able to hold on to power and complete the enslavement of the American people.”

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For the first time in nearly four-decades the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a “dire” travel alert for top officials, scientists and military officers travelling to the United States over fears the Obama regime is preparing to instigate a revolution for the purpose of their being able to hold on to power and complete the enslavement of the American people.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1526.htm

kraxxx
kraxxx

Juice News on RT: Termination of economy

http://rt.com/news/juice-news-termination-economy-301/

FIRST CLASS POLITICAL SATIRE!!

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Police Woman Found Dead, Child Cut From Body
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvicPAtF5Lc&feature=feedu

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://www.in5d.com/lisa-renee-timelines-energetic-synthesis.html

Lisa Renee – Timelines – Energetic Synthesis

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://www.in5d.com/edgar-cayce-an-american-prophet.html

Documentary – Edgar Cayce – An American Prophet

tasteslikecrayons
tasteslikecrayons

alan and Caleb

I’ve been a member here at Ben’s blog since May and I’m really happy that I decided to join. Although I don’t comment very often I do read every weekly update as well as many comments as my schedule will allow. The community here is very awake and I am glad that I to be a part.

I noticed that you were both talking about pyramids and that got me interested enough to speak up. I live in Charleston, SC and I am currently trying to build a pyramid here. I am also reading The Source Field Investigations by David Wilcock and it is nothing short of ground breaking. I have been a huge fan of David and Ben’s work for years now and I think it’s really cool how the two of them have been corresponding lately.
Although I have heard David speak in depth about the Russian pyramids before it wasn’t until reading SFI that I decided that I would seriously try and build a pyramid in Charleston before I make the move to New Orleans in December. Ideally I would like to build one large enough for someone to fit inside of and meditate. I mentioned it on facebook an instantly got a pretty big response from other artists in the city. Most of them urging me to make it bigger. Anyways, I believe that I have a place that is willing to host the project so know I am just trying to do the research as to how build the pyramid while adhering to the proper protocols for optimal results. I was thinking I would try and build a smaller beta type out of pvc pipe, fiber glass and zip ties. I’m working on finding a really good blue print for this project and I figure that there has to be a few good ones out there. So far the ones that I have found are not so great. If you guys are interested I would love to correspond about it more. I have to run but I just wanted to get the discussion going a bit.

-Foreman

valtony
valtony

1604

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re; Flagged, October 9, @ 4:36 pm
>”what is behind the cattle mutilations?”

And XL, October 10, @ 12:01 pm
>”There have been several theories, and several explanations. . . military units testing a new weapon that was capable of killing massive amounts of personnel at once. . . biological testing, where they were using the cattle to test out chemical and biological weapons.” Otherwise, pick your random theory… *grin*”

Yes, XL; The military was used. These cattle mutilations were part of the Cabal’s biological synthetic human duplicate program using a certain fluid taken from the lips of cattle for use in grafting the body parts in creating these duplicates.

Respectfully

XL

Re: Comment by anonymous on October 10, 2011 @ 11:03 pm
>Any chance of a date ?

Re: Comment by anonymous on October 10, 2011 @ 11:05 pm
>I’m a really good looking 15 year old boy with a great tan and body.

Uh….. Let me get back to you on that.

Grendizer

Hope he’ll find another channel to voice his views and keep us updated every month!

Grendizer

Grendizer

Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 9:31 pm

Thanks for posting this information, cause I’ve searching for Ben’s September update and found none. At least I know why.

Grendizer

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by anonymous on October 10, 2011 @ 11:03 pm

I’m a really good looking 15 year old boy with a great tan and body.

mikazo654
mikazo654

Okay, so I just referred to Ben by his first name and Rense by his last name. That’s a little strange, but I imagine of no great consequence.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by XL on October 10, 2011 @ 12:56 pm

Any chance of a date 🙂 ?

mikazo654
mikazo654

So Ben and Rense parted ways because of a disagreement on radiation?

Why not just agree to disagree on that one issue? Obviously not everyone in the alternative conspiracy media will agree on everything all the time.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by kuuleimomi on October 10, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

I second that comment of yours.
I had a terrible time in my thirties which ran into my forties. I had a decision to make and I chose service-to-others over service-to-self which resulted in my whole world being thrown into chaos. I ended up with a totally different lifestyle.

But I never regretted my decision, for to have done otherwise would make it impossible to live with myself. Sure, my life would have stayed the same but there would always have been the niggling doubt at the back of mind of “What if …” and possible regrets which I would have been unable to do anything about – since the person concerned would have been dead and gone.

Now, events have unfolded which made me realise that because I made that life-changing decision, my life flowed in a direction I had chosen long ago. It led me to another situation where I had to choose once again, between service-to-others or service-to-self. It took me much longer to ponder which path to take. Everything screamed at me to take the latter. Logic, commonsense, family responsibilites, self interest, friends, everything screeched, “No!” Nobody would have ever faulted my decision, had I said “No”; just as with the big decision over 20 years ago. I said, “Yes.” And my life once again, changed and I now found that I have graduated Earth school. It’s truly wonderful to have found my life’s purpose and to know that I have fulfilled it.

But if I had made the wrong decision 20 years back, I would never have gone down this timeline to be faced with the final test. When the test came, I could see the similarities between the 2 decisions. It was heart wrenching but I did it. I believe a person is only given tests that he/she is capable to passing and his/her life experiences are to prepare him/her for the test – like revising before an exam. If you have learned your lessons well, you’ll pass.

Grendizer

Break Your Left-Right Conditioning: Alex Jones Sunday Edition 1 – 6

The banksters are going to use the anger and the ignorance of the uneducated populace to sell them class warfare, sell them socialism and introduce the VAT tax. The big mega banks try to get enough people on welfare, to have class warfare between the middle class and the poor people just like in the 1789 French revolution where people were chopping off heads of fellow countrymen who had 1 franc more then them.

If you read THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION this is what precisely happened during the French revolution. In that document we read this remarkable sentence: “Remember the French Revolution, the secrets of its preparation are well known to us for it was entirely the work of our hands.” (See Protocol No. III, XIV). (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion2.htm#PROTOCOL%20No.%203)

…The fed and the tea party are all engaged in class warfare, and according to Alex Jones the Democratic Party has co-opted the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Ben Bernanke also says he’s with Occupy Wall Street… why wouldn’t he? He’s got all the reasons to support the movement because he knows Occupy Wall Street is too nebulous, has no real demands, and is full of broad slogans. Benjamin Fulford is mentioned once in this news bulletin, but the caller didn’t expand on the information he wanted to share with us. So someone on this blog knows perhaps what he wanted to get off his chest? I’d like to hear from you.

“You want to fight back this takeover and stop the movement being co-opted, you got to hit the streets and start educating people says Alex Jones”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66N1oiNNpk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKSjHSbsZ4&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdBTDQbSPfE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ptCD5uDDY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qx9raxN8gM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQKnlTdc14k

Grendizer

metaphy
metaphy

One of my dearest spiritual teachers and I were discussing the positive news we have been recieveing of late, he has reassured me again that things are going perfectly to plan and there is as there has always been nothing to worry about – the apparent war on earth being a superficial manifestation of the evolution of our planet, with only positive outcomes on the horizon.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 7:48 pm

Something we also discussed was chemtrails, how when they stop will be an excellent yard-stick for when the malevolent executives are taken away from global decision making.

So far, we have not seen this happen, but if this reportage is correct we should technically see clear skies sooner rather than later.

peace n love

XL

Re: Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 9:42 pm
>I agree with you also about the rest…fear is faith for
>the negative and you will attract it.

I had a reminder of this just last week… Someone was giving away a bunch of stuff the previous weekend, and I picked up a large block candle, the kind where it is a solid block of paraffin wax with 5 wicks on it. When asked why I decided to take it home, I replied “because we are going to have power outages soon, and this would be a good source of light”… My wife was not entirely happy about that, but she is used to my strange comments.

Within three days, we had a prolonged outage at our house, and we used that candle, fulfilling my prediction… *grin*

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ XL

Thanks, again. I also just saw a post of yours earlier in the week (about hyperinflation and metals, etc.).

I agree with you also about the rest…fear is faith for the negative and you will attract it. I believe in prepping as a way of life, no matter what the circumstances. My grandparents on both sides were farmers, and in rural areas, you tend to be more independent. It’s a good thing if done in a positive and healthy manner.

I personally don’t feel led to buy Dinar currency, but I am happy to see others prosper and I pray that everyone is happy with their increase.

These are amazing times! I am so pleased to see that so many in the world want positive change and that they have the faith and will to see it happen, for the good of all.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

10/10/2011

Q &A
Hey, haven’t heard you on Rense much anymore. How come? And, all the Fukushima fear mongering on his site, are you radiated in Tokyo? Or is it still a psyop for the masses to think they are being radiated? I go to Rense and that is about all I see. Loren Moret is saying the same thing, that we are all being radiated. This is nuts. Thanks Ben.
Hi Cindy,

Rense and I had a disagreement about radiation so I will no longer be appearing on his site. Me and three friends have personally checked for radiation at multiple locations in and around Tokyo and have found none. Rense is in California, I live 120 miles from Fukushima. If there was a real problem I would be worried.

Benjamin Fulford

XL

Re: Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 7:27 pm
>If we have precious metals now, how do you think that we will fare with the
>upcoming events? If someone has PM’s, why buy the Dinar (which is uncertain
>and also investing in paper money, right?) Are the Dinars tied to or going
>to be tied to oil resources?

There is no clear-cut answer to that. Your future is tied to many things, the biggest of which is your own intentions.

-If you spend all of your time hoarding precious metals or Dinar because you think you will need them, then that is probably what will happen to you, you will need them.

-If you spend all of your time hoarding food because you anticipate a food shortage, then you will find yourself short of food.

-If you find yourself hoarding firearms because you think will need to defend yourself, then you will end up having to defend yourself for some reason.

In short, get what you think you will need, but do not obsess about it. The law of attraction is working overtime for the next few years and what you envision happening will happen.

Trust your guides, and you will be safe regardless of what happens.

XL

Re: Comment by flagged on October 10, 2011 @ 2:44 pm
>bring your dumptruck of bush dirt please. but i would
>rather talk about some positive people.

Good point, I’d rather not wallow in the negative myself. The only reason I bring it up is because you have to understand what we are dealing with first. From then on everything else becomes much clearer.

>so was it 5 that were to be arrested? Bush bush clinton
>clinton and obama is that correct?

What was specifically mentioned was the last 4 presidents. Beyond that, the number I keep hearing is in the thousands.

Grendizer

Mark Ruffalo explains Occupy Wall Street

Mark Ruffalo, award-winning actor and director, caught up on RT. He says The top 1% is engaged in corporate warfare while the rest of the nation are dealing with capitalism, the top 1% are gaming the system and there are crushing competition.

His explanation surely sounds like G. Edward Griffin’s definition of COLLECTIVISM (http://www.freedom-force.org/) a couple of videos I posted above. He goes to say this is not an anti-capitalism protest per se, but has to do with equality, Democracy, liberty, justice and the rule of law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbSye1jTwL8

Grendizer

Grendizer

Geraldo and Fox run away from Wall Street

Fox News correspondent Geraldo Rivera attempted to report from the Occupy Wall Street protests in Lower Manhattan today but was forced to abort the broadcast after a throng of demonstrators led a rally of anti-Fox jeers. The incident was caught on camera by RT’s Lucy Kafanov.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQHys4Tmf4

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phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

We did have SOME chemtrails again. Wonder if they’re running out of funding but want to make a bit of a show? Or, some other reason.

I can’t wait to read Benjamin’s report today. Anticipation.

Grendizer

Police Know The Federal Reserve is Private!

Folks you got to see this. One cop admits the FED is private, and the Fed of Dallas dared to put a warning to the protesters right in front of the office building not to trespass the PRIVATE property of the “Federal” Reserve of Dallas!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqcY8lGUUE

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phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ XL – thanks so much for your great answers. They seem to be very factual and reasonable. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. I like what you said about not stressing over the restitution/compensation issue…tantamount to greed (or lack of faith/faith for the negative?). Good point.

One more question:

If we have precious metals now, how do you think that we will fare with the upcoming events? If someone has PM’s, why buy the Dinar (which is uncertain and also investing in paper money, right?) Are the Dinars tied to or going to be tied to oil resources?

gerard
gerard

Comment by calebbrennan on October 10, 2011 @ 10:31 am

Hooray Caleb!

Flagged! There is a wealth of information on this blog alone that deals in specific detail of Prescott, Poppy and Jnr Bushes crimes against humannity!!!!!

I posted a link ages ago, Hutz posted the same link recently that may even reveal how bad they really are,

so go check out some of this info, cos they are DIRTY word on this blog!!!

Cheers

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

In part….

If I hadn’t had those experiences, I would still be the selfish immature brat I was when I was younger. I wasn’t going to give up all of what I had learned! I spent a lot of time and hardships learning those lessons, I was going to put them to good use!

Comment by XL on October 10, 2011 @ 1:14 pm
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There you go, your experiences show you how to handle the next one. Why would we want to waste ‘time’ on past mistakes when you could use ‘time’ to handle the next experience to avoid repeating a mistake. A figure 8 experience, what goes around comes around over (success) or under (failure) a past experience.

Therefore, we should be supporting each other with the experiences we each have learned and are continuing to learn. That’s why we old timer’s in Ben’s forum are still here to train the newcomers on board Ben’s forum with respect, courtesy and an unbiased open mind (unconditional, you can be counted on to be there for myself and my experiences.)

A shared experience, e aloha malama pono,

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

I just reread Benjamin’s report, and noticed that he said that the PTB melted down the silver used in the Manhatton Project. Did not know that they stole this silver from the Treasury also:

nearly 15,000 tons of silver!!!

http://www.y12.doe.gov/library/pdf/about/history/07-10-11.pdf

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

All told there will be 7 cabinet members of Hawai’i’s Governor Abercrombie who have resigned. The fourth one resigned today. Two decided they wanted to spend more time with family, but they are both under 30 years old, that’s a twist, no dedication and all are from Abercrombie’s campaign committee. Somebody(s) not being a loyal member.
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I’m watching IRT (Ice Road Truckers). Lisa just taught me a lesson in how to handle agressive, impatient people. Ignore them until you are safe first. She has extreme control regarding emotions. There’s only a one lane road on the mountain and this bus driver is honking the horn to get pass her. She lets the bus pass when she finds safety without one comment and moves on. Two thumbs up for Lisa, thanks for the lesson and for sharing your experince.

kraxxx
kraxxx

Darylluke, you are so childish…

The dinar scam has been debunked. Do you understand? It´s over!

merek

Dear Cafe …the following link from bloomberg highlights the KOCH Brothers criminal activites of the biggest funders of tea Party and conservative causes ,I hope these neferious scumbags join Madoff soon ,these scofflaws are more proof of the corporate unlimited funding scandals that been allowed
by the corrupt Supreme Court ,check out the link it’s more proof of the corporate subjugation of our freedom while using all the good american buzz words like ,Freedom ,ect .
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Alan

thanks for getting back to me.

I’ve read a book on pyramid power many years ago and I Have my own ideas on why it could be plausible.

I have not read DW’s book.

Keep me posted on what you are building.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

merek on October 10, 2011 @ 1:15 pm

Excellent entomology and analysis on “Cain”

The symbols abound,

almost like we were meant to be able to see through it?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Flagged

You dropped a stink bomb by giving good marks to George Bush.

I was a little surprised and didn’t know how to respond.

So XL and Merek did it for me, better than i would have,

I was just reinforcing XL’s point and pointing the way to a book called “The Fourth Reich” .

You have to do your own homework on the Bush Family, I’m not going to try to convince you.

Merek’s song covered all the highlights of who Bush is in a fun way, you could start there.

darylluke
darylluke
darylluke
darylluke

Uploaded by nesplayer94 on Aug 10, 2008
Taken off of the Beatles 1968 self-titled album “The Beatles [White Album]” One of the best songs on the album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5CUHHGlQg0&feature=related

flagged
flagged

@caleb

re: sl comment: Now Caleb, is there something on your mind friend… something you really want to ask? I’m feeling a poke and just want to be clear what your intentions are? Don’t hold back brother… I won’t accuse you of something you didn’t intend. 😉 I’m beyond button pushing!

caleb, i got that abt you. wink. lol!

I think thats just wrong! smiling

thanks for the laugh SL. And for the confirmation.

flagged
flagged

@xl and caleb

re: Oh gosh, where do we start with this topic? Perhaps, we should start with who Bush really is? Explain his German/Nazi roots… That should be a good lead-in for the rest of his actions.

RE: Yes, I think Flagged could reference the well known book “The Fourth Reich”

Hey now guys, Easy. Id like to read much more than i get to, for sure.

Caleb i don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, or trying to imply that im a nazi sympathizer. i’m smiling but i don’t like that comment! funny.

please feel free to list bush jr. crimes for me.

bloodlines aren’t one of them last i checked. Lets talk culpability ok. Provable knowledge, coupled with provable actions.

Trust me i don’t like his politics you know that. i guess i just never got the dirt on him. i was more into the legal stuff than anything else.

By the way, xl, i could be a little perplexed about why ron paul is not a 911 truther publicly, i am certain he must be and i can certainly imagine why any public figure wouldnt expect to accomplish anything by bring that hot potatoe up. He wants to get rid of the cia and obviously he has i believe stated so publicly. that took some guts.

I can’t imagine him allowing anyone to get away with that kind of thing.

i just think paul has too much personal integrity to allow himself to be compromised or blackmailed.

bring your dumptruck of bush dirt please. but i would rather talk about some positive people.

so was it 5 that were to be arrested? Bush bush clinton clinton and obama is that correct?

darylluke
darylluke

Listen to Coast to Coast radio free live here NOW:

http://www.iheart.com/#/live/925/?autoplay=true

Gonna be talking about internet privacy intrusions,etc….

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScS9Re_osac&feature=feedu
Pt 1 Global Transformer meets George Kavassilas 5 june 2011

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October 9, 2011 7:12 pm
‘Time short’ for eurozone, says Cameron
By George Parker and Lionel Barber

David Cameron has urged European leaders to take a “big bazooka” approach to resolving the eurozone crisis, warning they have just a matter of weeks to avert economic disaster.
The UK prime minister wants France and Germany to bury their differences and to adopt before the end of the year what he claims would be a decisive five-point plan to end the uncertainty, which was having a “chilling effect” on the world economy
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bd7d2ed0-f26e-11e0-824e-00144feab49a.html#axzz1aLtXARZa

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Obama and Congress ARE Wall Street, Geithner IS the Federal Reserve – Now What?
Some have called for a separation of money and politics. Some have called for ending the Federal Reserve System. Some have suggested a complete write-off of all fraudulent debt. Some want higher taxes imposed on the well-to-do. Some demand more free government services like healthcare and higher education. Some say ending the wars at home and abroad will be the cure-all. Each of these proposed solutions seem to have some attraction, but they also have flaws that need to be addressed
http://activistpost.us1.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=3ac8bebe085f73ea3503bbda3&id=33bc6beb6d&e=75c7fd8de8

flagged
flagged

@xl re: Comment by XL on October 10, 2011 @ 1:14 pm

i appreciated that post. the word ‘revelation’ really caught my attention.

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Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 6:13 am
“Here is what I’ve learned about people: We get what we attract. And usually we attract what we are.”
Hence the economic mess we are all affected by which all started from GREED, and everybody here joined the bandwagon at some level including you.
“They say that if you don’t like the kind of people you are attracting into your life, change yourself. I know that it works.”
I avoid people for the most part, and it works very well for me.
“As for the Dinar, after many months of research I began to realize what it could mean to the world. It can keep us going for another couple of years. And that is all we need to get us beyond the time when the Darkside can take us over.”
You speak as though you have total control over evens that unfold in this world. That is called hubris. Yes, Americans always know how the rest of the world is supposed to act, yet look at the mess we all found ourselves in. It is so easy to say that all the problems were created by the cabal, but they did not do this all by themselves.
So far all the discussion concerning the RV has nothing to do with the people of Iraq or Vietnam for that matter but Dollars and Cents.
Peacerus

flagged
flagged

@XL

re: our thread abt. roon paul being controlled opposition.

the below post might apply to the thread if youd like to read it i wish i had more time. Writing is tedious for me because im particular abt how i express things – oh yeah and that spell checker nails me often!

Comment by flagged on October 10, 2011 @ 5:41 am

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Hair-cutting feud erupts among Amish in Ohio
Oct 9 11:23 AM US/Eastern
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An Amish farmer mans a stall at a farmer’s market in New York City. County …

County sheriffs in eastern Ohio are investigating a bizarre rash of home invasions in which Amish farmers are getting their beards cut off.
Members of a dissident Amish group called the Bergholz Gang are suspected of bursting into the homes of mainstream Amish and cutting — or attempting to cut — the facial hair of their targets.

The intruders then returned to their leader, hair in hand, to prove that his orders were being obeyed to the letter, the local Intelligencer and Wheeling News-Register newspaper reported, quoting sheriffs.

One of four Amish men arrested over the attacks has been released as a result of mistaken identity but at least two of the others are expected to be charged, the paper said.

It said the assaults — which have also targeted the long tresses of Amish womenfolk — were motivated “for some reason” relating to faith.

Descendants of 18th century German-speaking immigrants, the Amish are Protestants who shun many modern conveniences, such as driving cars. They regard uncut beards and hair as expressions of faith.

Donald Kraybill, an expert on the Amish at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania, told AFP that the attacks were “very odd” because violence is extremely rare within the Amish community.

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CARACAS (Reuters) – Socialist firebrand Hugo Chavez condemned on Saturday the “horrible repression” of anti-Wall Street protesters and termed a Republican presidential candidate “crazy” for his criticism of Cuba and Venezuela.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/chavez-slams-horrible-repression-u-protests-214847992.html

darylluke
darylluke

Kuwaiti citizens EACH get about $4000/month from oil.

Iraqi citizens are each going to get roughly $8000/mo oil royalty check.It is in their Constitution, that the oil reserves belong to the people.

Alaska citizens get some kind of yearly “bonus” because of the oil, not sure how much.But, it is nowhere near the above numbers.The rest of the 49 states citizens get bubkus!!

Venezuela gas is 27 cents a gallon to the citizens.

secondlife
secondlife

Wo

Thanks for understanding and taking things in stride… I don’t want to lose my TV buddy! 😛 But before I sign off, I think you either confused me with someone else, or totally misunderstood something I wrote, because the remark below just doesn’t make sense to me.

>As far as what I post holding up the GS, I can not see how that would be possible. Im one person on a blog, and it is not logical that my contributions would hold up something as big as the GS with the many people that are working on it. <

No where did I ever mention the GS, or you holding it up? Hell, I don't even follow the GS business, nor care to comment on it… it's not my area of knowledge. So I guess there was something lost in the translation. 😕 It's all good… I hope we can just move along now and put this behind us? I'm sure you're just as tired of it as I am.

Thanks for everything… greatly appreciated… Be Safe and Be Well

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lmao!
merek sez rectal cancer of the nose .HA HA

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Issa: ‘Fast and furious’ subpoenas issued soon

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the House oversight committee said Sunday that he could send subpoenas to the Obama administration as soon as this week over weapons lost amid the Mexican drug war.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., suggested on “Fox News Sunday” that Attorney General Eric Holder knew about the gun trafficking operation known as “Fast and Furious” earlier than he has acknowledged.
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secondlife
secondlife

Comment by wovolve42 on October 10, 2011 @ 10:38 am

>As far as what I post holding up the GS, I can not see how that would be possible. Im one person on a blog, and it is not logical that my contributions would hold up something as big as the GS with the many people that are working on it. I hope we can still talk about tv shows whenever I can get a chance to watch some of the ones you suggested.<

Glad you took my post in stride… I would never want to lose our tv connection. 😛 But the remark above, I think was misplaced. Either you have me confused with someone else, or just totally misunderstood something that I expressed? No where did I ever mention the GS, or you holding it up… hell, I really don't even follow that topic much, let alone wish to comment on it… not my area of knowledge. But either way… it's all good and I hope we can just move on. I'm sure you're tired of it too? 😉
Thanks as always and Be Safe and Be Well

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Merek

Woody Gutherie would be proud

Ode to Georgie Boy

Xl

Yes, I think Flagged could reference the well known book “The Fourth Reich”

secondlife
secondlife

XL on October 10, 2011 @ 12:56 pm

Thanks for the laugh XL… you’re a great example of how we all should be… and Im better for knowing you here. 😉

Keep up the great work… in being you… Be Safe and Be Well

secondlife
secondlife

darylluke on October 10, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

Thanks for all the great info… it’s great to see you more grounded… a better change for sure brother. Keep it up… I sense things are going to get better for you… karmic law… the secret… see it… feel it… create it!

In fact… if everyone in vision of this post took a moment to see the RV happen, feel it happen, and let the experience deeply radiate through their very soul… I bet it would, and damn soon. So let it be already… feel it now! 😛

Keep going bro… thanks for the change… and your efforts… greatly appreciated. Be Safe and Be Well

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Anarcho-Capitalism
Jeff Bewick interviews Lew Rockwell
http://lewrockwell.com/berwick/berwick15.1.html

merek

I’ve seen it all Hutz….. Cain…..Can a Black ever be a red neck?(thats Cain, sho enuf!)
He was the Kansas City Federal Reserve bank chairman. He’s got his nose so far up those Khazar asses,
i’d be afraid he’d contact rectal cancer in his nose.
Everyone here left right or middle realizes what is going on with these protests and who their ire is directed at.
even his habiru plagerized name strikes fear. The name of a brother murderer
and thats what the cabal is doing in so many places murdering brothers and sisters! Also even cane as an alternate spelling
of Hawaii colonial history strikes of immigrant slavery by multinationals, sugar cane , tastes sweet like his sugary platitudes Sucking on it on both occasions your teeth will rot .
None of these Repugs have much more than brain one,Mitt might have brain two. Most are very ignorant of science and
And Cain’s sudden rise takes mucho dinero ,sheckels and fait dollars ,lots of them and they flow from the neverending printing cornocopia that his ” massa’s run .Can you say Uncle …..and it ain’t Uncle Sam you can betcha.

XL

Re: Comment by hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here on October 10, 2011 @ 12:36 pm
>I meditate on just forgetting altogether the unpleasant things that happened
>to me. I would take a total erase of my life before my boys mom and I met.

I once spent a night drinking with a guy and we were busy contemplating all the mistakes we had made over our lifetimes. He was extremely depressed and had a long list of things he would like to have gone back and changed. After he was done (or just taking a break, not sure), he asked me what I would back in time and change if I could. I sat there for awhile, thinking back through all of the mistakes I had made (there were quite a few), and a revelation came to me. And I announced to him “none”, I would leave everything as it happened.

He was stunned, and asked for an explanation. So, I described to him all the lessons I had learned from each of the mistakes, and some of them were doozies! Each of those mistakes/lessons had changed me, turned me into what I am now. If I hadn’t had those experiences, I would still be the selfish immature brat I was when I was younger. I wasn’t going to give up all of what I had learned! I spent a lot of time and hardships learning those lessons, I was going to put them to good use!

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by calebbrennan on October 10, 2011 @ 9:24 am

“When is the last time you asked a question?”

Hey Cale… just read a few of the most recent posts by XL to me… he was nice enough to illustrate a couple of my questions to the board. 😛 Made my life easier… thanks XL.

Now Caleb, is there something on your mind friend… something you really want to ask? I’m feeling a poke and just want to be clear what your intentions are? Don’t hold back brother… I won’t accuse you of something you didn’t intend. 😉 I’m beyond button pushing!
Be Safe and Be Well

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living in these times is a real trip .
when you a truther and an investor .my head is spinning

XL

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on October 10, 2011 @ 10:31 am
>I’m not sure how to respond to this quote and not insult you.
>Anybody here want inform Flagged on Bush’s crimes, domestically and internationally?
>or maybe he’s just a good old boy?

Oh gosh, where do we start with this topic? Perhaps, we should start with who Bush really is? Explain his German/Nazi roots… That should be a good lead-in for the rest of his actions.

XL

Re: Comment by darylluke on October 10, 2011 @ 7:48 am
>But, if this is going through, as the posts are stating, it looks as if it may happen Mon-Tues.

My advice is to take these reports with a grain of salt. They have been giving dates like this for months (years?) now, the RV is always “tomorrow”. Don’t get too involved in any particular dates.

XL

Re: Comment by secondlife on October 10, 2011 @ 6:44 am
>We are all sitting behind computers, so please tell
>me how ANY of US really KNOW anything for sure?

Okay, you got me, I am actually a 14-year-old girl, masquerading as an old fart.

XL

Re: Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 10, 2011 @ 5:42 am
>1. T-Man says that we will be keeping the Federal Reserve and IRS infrastructure.
>That could be practical, could be insidious, could be disinfo, who knows. But the
>Global Settlements indicate that certain things are abolished. It appears that
>signatories and beneficiaries of the GS are under contract to abide by the terms
>of the Trust once the monies are distributed. Any comments on this?

It is my understanding that while they will remain, they will not be the evil entities any longer. The goal is to remove the powers that are abusing these organizations and put into place people that have the best interests of the country at heart. Once that is done, those entities can stay in place to provide the necessary infrastructure to keep things running until they can be slowly rendered unnecessary. The goal is not to have those organizations yanked out from under the people leaving a gaping hole, but instead a slow transition to a world where they are no longer needed.

>2. Along these same lines, the “money” that has been saved and is being distributed
>is still fiat currency. So, the fiat currency goes into the Treasury? Geitner is
>still at the helm…what prevents him from taking the 40-50 trillion in our Treasury?

The money in the GS is physical money, precious metals. Part of what will stop him from doing that in the future is the implementation of the Basil III financial system, and an increase in financial oversight. The fiat currency, like the functions of the Fed cannot just be yanked out of circulation, it has to be slowly replaced with actual money.

>3. Our birth certificate Straw Man accounts have been collateralized by our lifetime
>labor (estimates) and are worth millions, apparently. Is there some recompense to
>each person with a birth certificate/ssan? Since the Birth Certificate and SSAN are
>connected to the fiat currency (i.e., E Series corresponds to the red letter on the
>back of the SS card), then it seems like we should all be recompensed somehow.

One of the goals I had seen listed awhile back WAS the recompensation of your bonds. The plan was that once the current corrupt financial system is gone, they will take each person that has a bond (just about all of us) and “give” to us what our bond is worth, basically cashing it in and paying us the results.

Will this come about? I have no idea, I haven’t heard anything about it for awhile now. If the jubilee takes place and/or NESARA comes into effect, it will be a moot point though, as everyone will have enough money they will not be worried about cashing out the strawman also. In actuality, it is best not to worry about this though, if it happens, it happens. Obsessing about it becomes a manifestation of greed.

>4. Ben said not to be surprised if the pentagon seizes the MSM outlets and installs
>reporters tht will speak the truth. I can see that some great reporting coupled with
>tangible benefits and changes would go a long way to convince the average Joe. However,
>I’m not certain how those in the government of U.S. Corporation will agree to step down.
>(Perhaps that is why the book of Revelation says, “Come out of Her, My people, lest you
>share in her sins and partake of her plagues.” Maybe this won’t happen instantaneously.
>What is your take?

I think it will be a mix. There will be some that will surrender and agree to the new rules, some will end up in jail. Others will try to flee the country as soon as they find out that we are aware. And then there will be a few that will not go down gracefully, they will prefer to go down fighting than to give up or run. This is fully anticipated, the military is ready to take action where/when needed.

>5. Is the Tim Turner group party to the Global Settlements? I think that I remember
>some signature lines there. Is that a different group than http://www.republicforarizona.org?
>What do you think about joining these ‘nations’?

I honestly do not know what Tim Turner has up his sleeve, he has been promising funding for the Republic efforts for a long time with no proof. I do not believe it is party to the Global Settlements, but might be funded by one of the organizations that is. Yes, the organization you have listed is also part of Tim Turner’s group. The main website for this is group http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/. This is a valid organization, although some individual members have questionable pasts. Personally, I would love for everyone to become part of this group, because if enough people did join the critical mass would be quickly reached and the corporate government could then be shown the door via a peaceful method (although some would resist, see #4).

darylluke
darylluke

10-9-2011 Guru ScottiG I can comfortably state that I believe we are within a 7 to 22 day window. I will state that at the very outside it could go 52 days but based on the most recent information received yesterday, it is most likely that we will realize the adjustment in rates by the 31st of this month. The information I read about the CBI and the IMF meeting aligns with some information I have relative to China. China is a player in this investment and they are relevant to the final release. there are two possible scenarios… Scenario A would have a low release rate of the IQD and VND and scenario B has a higher rate IQD and VND as well as a major player adjusting their currency as well! Scenario B is the one most likely to satisfy everyone globally but much rests on the rate the CBI releases.

10-9-2011 Guru Foghorn I have uncovered some interesting facts that point to the reason…why we haven’t seen the Iraqi Dinar revalued yet. all intel we keep hearing that is based within the United States, be it bank stories or contacts with three letter agencies or even “highly placed Government Officials” is all coming from none implementing sources. (SOURCES NOT MAKING THE FINALE DECISION). Yes, some of what we hear is true from these sources, but still has nothing to do with the actual activation of the RV. Iraq is making great progress, but just not enough quite yet to move completely forward with the revalue yet. they are still under chapter 7, despite what others have been saying, and the are still under the United Nations Assistants for another year. Along with that, they have huge issues to over come, political, security and developmental. All of which will take time to resolve. As for Dr. Shabibi or the Minister of Justice going on Iraqi TV and telling the people the Dinar is to increase in value soon, or the “printing of cash in instructions” that supposedly appeared in a Iraqi news paper is nothing more then a stall tactic to try to quit the masses forming against their government. They have been lying to their people for years and will continue to do so.

10-9-2011 Guru Bear5642 THERE IS REALLY NO NEGATIVE INTEL ON MY END AND I HOPE CHINA COMPLIES WITH EVERYTHING AND IT WILL BE IN OUR FAVOR

10-9-2011 Guru Jonnywg my associates have been in the bank, they have not been able to come up with any relatively new information other than the screens were frozen for the first time that they have been at the bank…only for the iqd. at $5.77 USD. they were not able to get volume or other info. they advised that extra money is in the bank, another multimillion dollar deposit was scheduled for Monday and no apparent reason. they also stated the branch was a buzz and they fully expected to cash in Monday. Chase Manhattan and WF will open currency depts MONDAY accross USA. IF the RV happens every bank will cash out the premium cutomers first…be thinking Wed or THURS and a big IF the RV happens. the only neg news is that the MY 527 trilateral agreement extended….expires today or tomorrow i feel. i did not declare the rv,…but what appears to be a journey near its end.

10-9-2011 Guru Purplehelmet300 do not worry – all is done and we are very very close and you will like the rate. FORGET the 7-22 days and 52 days – AND yes the rate is HIGH!

Read more: http://www.dinarguru.com/#ixzz1aLcoRRf1

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2KbVEIRNog&feature=feedu
MADRID QUAKE DEFUSED DRAMATIC DROP IN QUAKE COUNT
this is good news if true

sierra
sierra

Tonight on Coast to Coast.
If your (l0cal) radio station does not carry the feed, you can access via the internet. Just find a radio station that streams the show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Information Warfare
Sun 10-09

Joining guest host John B. Wells (email), specialist in cyber warfare and information security, Charles R. Smith will discuss the current state of information warfare including how unmanned aircraft can penetrate information systems and personal computers and download information and insert viruses.

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Sierra

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Herman Cain sounds like he is protecting the crooks.
after all he worked at the fed.
I bet he owes someone big time

darylluke
darylluke
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I am the architect of your reality… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H85hdn9a6KM

merek thats a good song

daryl ,,,,,,ok if you say so.

darylluke
darylluke

This is from our source who has been checked out. Let’s hope he is correct

Recap:
Erbil/Arbil – Done, in law, in the Gazette.
Article 140 – Done but not implemented.
HCL – Done.
Rate – around $4.25.
Rate Change – maybe tonight on Forex.
Meeting Tomorrow – just formality to announce changes.

From Duckyboy

darylluke
darylluke

Braveheart,

Did you listen to the IQDTeam broadcast tonight?

Any news from them?

darylluke
darylluke

It is a banking holiday in the US, but this is supposed to be coming here(US) via Wells Fargo & Chase banks which have a currency division.So, those are supposed to be open.

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Republican presidential contender Herman Cain amplified his criticism Sunday of the growing Occupy Wall Street movement, calling the protesters “jealous’ Americans who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s” Cadillac.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cain-occupy-wall-street-20111009,0,972806.story

darylluke
darylluke

Global Settlements are said to be in place, Hutz.

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS seems that all is left.

TODAY(monday), sometime, those settlements are supposed to go out to 157 countries.

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XL
guess this is finding a silver lining

if I’m right you could say it is patriotic to buy dinar..
I also believe that is the reason for the delay in GS and prosperity programs…..simple nothing gonna happen until the cabal is taken down.

I have taken many blows and always found some silver lining to get me through the pain .
I have loved and lost 5 woman .each time it hurt but was less each time . I wonder if I can ever fall in love again …I feel the burden of my life on me makes me a olds used up hunk of meat …bad ears and bad back .
I meditate on just forgetting altogether the unpleasant things that happened to me. I would take a total erase of my life before my boys mom and I met.

merek

Flagged posted
“On a side note, being that the bush’s names are thrown around quite a bit here in a bad view. As for me, personally, I don’t get the impression that G.w.bush is a wicked or nefarious man, last i checked.”
—————————————————
I’m not sure how to respond to this quote and not insult you.
Anybody here want inform Flagged on Bush’s crimes, domestically and internationally?
or maybe he’s just a good old boy?
Comment by calebbrennan on October 10, 2011 @ 10:31 am

Flagged, a short Bush history just for your edification, written shortly before the Obama Election,
I fear as more stories of the present Adminstration break I’ll need an Obama song poem

Lyrics by Merek copyright 2007

Ole Poppy fought the big war against the Japanese
Then got involved with Big Oil to live a life of ease
Was OK to use those Zapata platforms way out in the Gulf
A place to store the cocaine for the CIA and himself
Then the savings and loans bankers laundered millions
Some insiders still will say.
when we finally came to bail them out, Oh Lord how we had to pay.
Oh Lord how we had to pay.
Refrain:
There’s a ill wind out of Texas and it’s blowing more and more
While Shrubby,Cheney and family maken billions out of war.
Repeat……

Ole Prescott was the banker, granddaddy to the clan
With all his banking inside deals helped finance ole Hitlers plans
That war was going five year before Prescott was forced to quit
And Congress stopped his profiteering,but he got away with it.

Refrain:
There’s an ill wind out of Texas and it’s blowing the DU
With half the World poisoned, tons of it before he‘s through.
Repeat refrain.
Now Dubya was a wild boy he partied when he could
He snorted family profits,chased with beers
and life was good.
Now his Poppi was a smart guy
and knew that war was hard.
So sonny’s jumped ahead of Texas boys
Soon he’s flying for the Guard
While poor boys dodged the bullets
Like poor boys have to do.
But Georgie hid out down in Georgia
Until he was sure the war was through.

refrain
There’s an ill wind out of Texas and it’s blowin more and more
While Shrubby,friends and families
Make millions out of war.

Now money buys you lots of things and billions buy you more
Like the Presidency, and baseball teams
Ain’t that what’s money’s for?
The money rigged the vote machines
but never vests for the Marines
First it was Ben Laden with those murky family ties
Then the Iraq War he started ,well it was all just based on lies
Get even for his Daddy ,he’s definitely a baddy
With loads of fear and warnings
That the end is near and war clouds forming
But we’ll be better off without him soon we pray
Call the Congress and beseech them
And then pray that they impeach him
Don’t let him and Cheney slip away.
Don’t let Bush and Cheney get away!

There‘s an ill wind in the White house and it‘s blowing more and more
Now we have the “Decider“, We should demand oh so much more .
.Please get out and protest cause that’s what your rights are for.
Grab a hold of the corrupt ones and kick em out the door
And kick em out the White House door.

Their money,.. billions of it,.have. controlled a willing press
With folks and soldiers die-ing .Still Dubya won’t confess
You know he talks to Jesus or he say’s he hears him well
So,he’s sure that Jesus tells just to go,
Rally the war industries and nuke the turbaned foe.
Another country and another war just watch our profits grow

Refrain:

There is a new sweet wind come out of Texas.
And it’s even stronger than before
And eventually the lies will lose and we’ll know what peace is for
And God whose up in Heaven will get what what he deserves
peace for all the nations is His truth that we‘ll all serve..

XL

Re: Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 5:14 am
>Just not sure he was the bad guy. More likely he was set up to take
>the fall, so they could get someone more to their liking in place.

Yeah, I’ve been hearing a surprising amount of “good” things about him while doing research. Not sure about which side he really played for, but he did do “some” good things for the country.

XL

Re: Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 4:58 am
>Presidential Rogue’s Gallery:
>In one way or another, they all helped to make prisoners out of us.

Every president since Lincoln has known what is going on and been a contributor to our downfall, sometimes via acquiescence, sometimes as an active participant. Those that have tried to right the wrong have been killed, threatened, blackmailed, and effectively silenced.

Instead of listing the ones that participated in the downfall, I prefer to pay homage to those that attempted to fix it.

XL

Re: Comment by secondlife on October 10, 2011 @ 3:28 am
>Asking a hard question here…

>-Why are so many, so quick, to jump aboard a certain view and not stay more neutral?

Yeah, I noticed that also, which is why I have been posting more than usual this weekend. People hear one bad report and immediately jump to all sorts of conclusions without even checking to see if the report is real or what it really says…

Relax! There is going to be an increase in the amount of disinfo soon, far more than we are seeing now. Take each with a grain of salt until fully authenticated and analyzed to see what it means!

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

absolutely nothing happening in the dinar skype room im in

XL

Re: Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 3:11 am
>Tman has now told us that he was a Marine and an Intelligence
>Officer and that he once worked for the other side.

As a former Marine myself that worked in the Special Intelligence field for 10 years, I find this an interesting statement. I could be wrong, but with the level of access I had I would have seen some indication of this over the course of 10 years, the two terms are (in my opinion) mutually exclusive. You can be a Marine intelligence officer, but if he was working black projects then he would not have been working “for” the corps at that time (although on paper he might have remained active duty), he would have been working for some other agency.

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I saw a press relese awhile back that had an order for things to happen and the dinar rv was last to happen following the GS and prosperity funds first RV dinar last. all within 24 hours ….I have the 6 hours of recording on my website 3 differnt calls ..they was mostly on the same page …that was January this year ….and no more conference calls like that has been released ….however bix wier said they were all real investors …I have seen the same thing from at least 2 other sources this year all saying the same thing ..
I bet ben knows exactly when nesara is going to happen .

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Hope your right Daryl
and braveheart wish I could believe as you two do ..I just cant . gut feeling again

pansy
pansy

Hutz,
Here is a link. It was a 5.5 that hit Honshu, Japan a short time ago.

http://newsblogged.com/

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Hutz,
Clinton signed it into law when he was president.NOT a rumor.

good to know daryl
nesara is the reason for delays implementing nesara is an event of enormous consequences .
Its own time … timing is everything …

darylluke
darylluke

Hutz,
the latest broadcast (tonight) will not get archived until tomorrow.WISH I coulda listened tonight.

I have been immersed in dinar research last 48 hours.I respect your gut, but they are saying the final step is public announcement ONLY.

Braveheart is right, I believe in his assessment regarding T-Man.He stated he believed T-Man himself somehow is a big part of pushing the timetable up on RV to where it is right now.That timeline was on fastforward & fast-tracked for some reason, starting as of about 10-15 days ago.Before that it was just foot-dragging, delays, excuses one after the other.

http://www.theiqdteam.com/3/archives/10-2011/1.html

XL

Re: Comment by shivalingus on October 10, 2011 @ 12:39 am
>acknowledge that it really pisses you off, that I really piss you off.
>I know I do – and you know what the trigger will continue to appear
>in your life until you accept it instead of fighting it.

Yes, everything that triggers a reaction in you is an indication of a lesson you need to learn. Figure out “why” a particular action is triggering an effect.

XL

Re: Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 9, 2011 @ 7:58 pm
>@ darylluke: My 15 yr. contract freelance job just ended also a couple of days
>ago. It seems like this is a period of ENDINGS and also new BEGINNINGS. I
>anticipate the new beginnings and release from the old season.

Yes, sometimes what seems like a terrible tragedy is actually a blessing in disguise. Sometimes that happens to get you to move from a rut you have gotten yourself into. Look for the silver lining in each bad situation, because there is reason for everything, regardless of what people will tell you.

XL

Re: Comment by positivechange on October 9, 2011 @ 6:57 pm
>i’m personally not sure whether concentrating on who shouldn’t make any money
>on various issues is the right way to go at the moment. it would be more
>important to get money to the people, jobs and a new design for society.

Agreed… Do not concentrate on the financial issues, they are merely the visible effects of the real, underlying, problem. Get the money out there to EVERYONE, end the poverty, end the “wanting” that is causing the crime.

XL

Re: Comment by flagged on October 9, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

Indeed, Ron Paul is being purposefully ignored and left out of the MSM. Out of all the possible candidates, I would pick him. But, that does not mean he isn’t “controlled opposition”… *grin*

XL

Re: Comment by flagged on October 9, 2011 @ 4:36 pm
>do we know anything abt. what is behind the cattle mutilations?

There have been several theories, and several explanations. So far, the best answers I see to explain this are a combination. One was a report of military units testing a new weapon that was capable of killing massive amounts of personnel at once. The other good explanation was biological testing, where they were using the cattle to test out chemical and biological weapons.

Otherwise, pick your random theory… *grin*

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another earthquake just hit japan?? just heard. oh no, those poor people

darylluke
darylluke

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here on October 5, 2011 @ 9:43 pm

“flagged …..there is a rumor that nesara was passed into law .”
—————————-

Hutz,
Clinton signed it into law when he was president.NOT a rumor.

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THANKS FOR THE DINAR RESEARCH DARYL …..dont worry its not going to RV before wends-day….
as long as the evil doers are in business the dinar wont RV….
that is just a gut feeling i have ……also suppose it has been delayed for the express reason to save this economy when the FED goes down and the dollar crashes ….
if I’m right you could say it is patriotic to buy dinar..
I also believe that is the reason for the delay in GS and prosperity programs…..simple nothing gonna happen until the cabal is taken down.

darylluke
darylluke

Ender:

WELCOME!!!

aneeson
aneeson

Dear Cafe,

For all consiricy addicts out there (said tongue-in-cheek as I have to admit to being slightly inclined that way myself at times!).

Christchurch has had two large quakes again this past weekend – a 4.8 on the 8th and a 5.5 last night (9th Oct). Neither created any further damage but still enough to stop any re-construction as the insurance industry (cabal owned no doubt) refuses to give any insurance for at least 1 – 3 months after an event. Naturally the banks who are definitely cabal owned will NOT lend for reconstruction without insurance and so the cabal are effectivly controlling what is happening there.

And just as a further blow to out pristine country, a container ship has run aground off the North Island on a well mapped reef in calm conditions with no explanation as to how it happened. This is a well travelled shipping route to Tauranga (a major import export port), so we are all at a loss as to how it happened. The grounding is not the issue – it is all the oil spilling out of the vessel that will poluted the best beaches in the country to say nothing about the sea and bird life. Captain Cook named the area “The Bay Of Plenty” because of the abundance of flora & fauna.

Now if I was a conspiricy nut, I would suspect underhanded manipulation in all of this?

Namaste,
Alan.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqcY8lGUUE&feature=feedu
Police Know The Federal Reserve is Private!

darylluke
darylluke

wovolve42 on October 10, 2011 @ 10:38 am

I mustuv missed Edges’ research you mention him doing.
Perhaps you can point to it for me? Me, hutz, XL, and Braveheart have put up the bulk. My research is essentially concluded, other than finding out what Edge found…

darylluke
darylluke

This is a very good informational about the Iraqi Dinar from Oct. 6,2011 giving really down to earth overviews and current events in Iraq:

https://app.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=10-17-65-67118-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-6728135245-17-65-6711117112336;0Mzg1MTEzMjA=1

It is rather long, but once it is loaded you use the scroll bar to jump anywhere you like in the broadcast.
THIS is compelling EVIDENCE this Dinar Re-Valuation IS NOT A SCAM!

Their website is here:

http://www.theiqdteam.com/3/post/2011/10/fever-of-speculation-in-the-iraqi-dinar-sweeping-global-financial-markets-and-private-jets-moving-from-erbil-close-najafi-maliki-seeks-to-control-the-stock-of-central-bank-dollar.html

aneeson
aneeson

Hey Alan and whosoever talking about building pyramids
I want in on discussion, what is this recently inspired by?

Comment by calebbrennan on October 6, 2011 @ 11:43 am
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Hi Caleb,

I have been away for 5 days so it has taken a lot of catching up! I am not sure if someone else has answered this for you as I only skimmed through the posts (so many this week).

The topic of building pyramids was as a result of David Wilcock’s book “The Sourcefield Investigations” in which he talks about experiments in Russia with non-metalic built pyramids and the effects that these structures can have on health and vitality in both humans and plants.

Basically if you build one to correct dimensions, and then place a container with water inside it, you can use that potentised water for improving you health. If you place seeds inside the pyramid (not the water) for a few days and then plant them, they produce vibrant fruit, vegetables etc which are larger than normal. And it follows that if the pyramid is large enough you can meditate inside it too for added awareness levels.

This is just a taster of the thread, but a good place to start would be to get David’s book and read what he has researched over the last 30 years.

Namaste,
Alan.

ender
ender

Hi All. I just subscriped a couple days ago. Comments here are sure at a different level then at the yahoo.news site. I posted over there in reaction to the Christians being attacked in Egypt. As part I had to give a link to Benjamin’s Sept 16th interview on the David Wilcock site about this topic. It was such an uplift of hope in what looked like a hopeless situation. And then from mention of the camelot project somewhere I end up finding the avalon project and then Inelia Benz…actually here’s my cut and pasted post at yahoo ( I doubt it would get read there, things get buried quickly with all the kill all muslim comments ):

…………

What is going on here? How many were burning the churches? How many attacked them at the TV station. The cabal got Mabaruk’s 80 billion by creating similar hatred.
A group of agents, big money for a couple dozen hate slanted muslims, peer pressure on many dozens more from those well paid dozen. In this blazing flame of hated a jeep runs over the targets. An army jeep to present a terrifying symbol to all Christians in Egypt. Fear, anger, terror ( it excites the cabal ) causes reactions to invite the same. The media will be sure to show atrocities by Christians to the Muslim world. Moderate Muslims will be pulled in by the ‘you are either with us or against us’ mentality and this could spread past Egypt’s borders. The cabal would have succeeded. The cabal is out of money. They are desperate. We just need not feed them the fear and anger. We just have to say no. We know who you are. We know how few you are. It’s over. We choose peace.

They are in their last throws, it’s a beautiful world awaiting us. The knowledge that is already possessed is amazing ( Got to check out David Wilcock’s last book ). Here’s a couple links for browsing:

David Wilcock interviews Benjamin Fulford

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases

Inelia Benz interview from project Avalon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZqzZUV19w&feature=uploademail

And just in consideration of what we see and what makes sense. I know Kadafi was a bit ( to say the least ) of a stongarm in policing but a least half the Libyans loved him. What did we really see?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s5RPEDYYU

……………………….
Inelia Benz is friggin incredible. She turned one of the top cabal guys or I guess he decided to turn. It really sounds like we’re sitting good. From where I was feeling a week ago to where I am now by these links ( originally from reading David Wilcock’s The Soure Field Investigations..Incredible! ) is night and friggin day.

A thousand thank yous to Benjamin, I’m in absolute aw!

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FOX NEWS LIES! FOX NEWS LIES! Geraldo Driven Out Of Occupy Wall Street Protest!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGOTPfWcZHU&feature=feedu

I love this!!!!!

Edge
Edge

Wo– There you go–Uncle Hutz will look after things—
—————-
no prob wo ….you need a bodyguard me and my boy will do the job lol…he knows karate lol
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Comment by hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here on October 10, 2011 @ 10:55 am

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no prob wo ….you need a bodyguard me and my boy will do the job lol…he knows karate lol

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Excusive: Occupy Wall Street- Fight The Federal Reserve Or Go Home
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Medical advances have doubled human
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humans ever beat death altogether?

Death is a humbling reality – but what
if life had no end? Cutting-edge science
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angiesolo
angiesolo

1500th !!

wovolve42
wovolve42

Edge- thanks for your post- as always, I appreciate all the great info you put up on silver, gold and all the hard work you put in on research on the dinar-

hutz- my comrade in arms..LOL- thank you

Caleb- thanks, I always look for your posts to enlighten and because they always make me LMAO

BH- I hear what you are saying about the dinar, and I agree with you – I respect your position on the wh’s and appreciate you giving a balanced point of view-

Secondlife – I have no personal issue with you at all- I was making an observation that I dont like to be lectured. I respect your opinion and your right to express what you think, I just dont like to be told what to talk about, as no one does. As far as what I post holding up the GS, I can not see how that would be possible. Im one person on a blog, and it is not logical that my contributions would hold up something as big as the GS with the many people that are working on it. I hope we can still talk about tv shows whenever I can get a chance to watch some of the ones you suggested.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Flagged posted

“On a side note, being that the bush’s names are thrown around quite a bit here in a bad view. As for me, personally, I don’t get the impression that G.w.bush is a wicked or nefarious man, last i checked.”
—————————————————

I’m not sure how to respond to this quote and not insult you.

Anybody here want inform Flagged on Bush’s crimes, domestically and internationally?

or maybe he’s just a good old boy?

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10/9/2011 — Sakurajima volcano in Japan – explosive eruption
Daily eruptions occur at Sakurajima volcano in Japan. Sometimes ash eruptions, sometimes lava spilling down the side out of the caldera.. but there are occasions where explosive eruption occurs…

Clearly, this explosive eruption of lava and ash covers the mountainside.. we have seen the south and west side of the volcano receive HUGE deposits of fresh lava over the past several months.. the mountain is literally growing before your eyes.

mirrored with permission from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHtbgP2MmA&feature=channel_video_title More

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!URGENT! Orwellian Obama Internet Takeover THIS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED (COPY SHARE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8woQVlO3Jo0&feature=uploademail

pansy
pansy

Comment by flagged on October 10, 2011 @ 9:49 am

“LOL. clingons”

Sorry cafe, I’m feeling my oats and just can’t resist…

I hear the clingons are off world and hanging out around Uranus!

Pansy

flagged
flagged

wbstreck

RE: The U.S. shrubs and clingons(a type of poliitcal dingleberry)that has infested DC. and the rest of that post

WBSTRECK

LOL. clingons.

an interesting post. you guys are really into this dinar thing.

@CAFE
thanks for the detailed research on DINAR. Let me get a sip of water from the fire hydrant!

On a side note, being that the bush’s names are thrown around quite a bit here in a bad view. As for me, personally, I don’t get the impression that G.w.bush is a wicked or nefarious man, last i checked.

That’s not to say that Restore America’s Grand Jury won’t indict him for his so called crusades in the middle east. Or that i would have a prob. w/ that.

As for his dad, well, i believe the late Dois Gene ‘chip’ Tatums claims. If you’re into geopolitical intrigue, look up The Tatum Chronicles. Its a good, short read, and non-fiction.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Lyndon Larooche juxtaposes real issues with copious amounts of dis-info. Don’t trust him or his organization.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Secondlife

Let me ask you a question?

When is the last time you asked a question?

Be the Salesman you want to see in the world>

flagged
flagged

@ PVG

re: Ben said not to be surprised if the pentagon seizes the MSM outlets and installs reporters tht will speak the truth.

pvg

if you don’t mind me chiming in on your post…

I was thinking, well those are privately owned and operated co’s (cbs, nbc….), aren’t they? Privately licensed, maybe publicly funded by stockholders? well, im not sure about that, nor how you could ‘Insert’ someone into the msm like that,

but i was thinking it would be more likely they would take over fcc.

However after writing part of this and re-reading the above portion of you post, it reminded me of glen beck.

Which is interesting because he has had meteoric rise to fame and nationwide audiences, and the subject matter of his programming, would seem to coincide quite nicely, with what is supposedly going on here at this site (hostile takeover of TPTB).

After all, the masses need to have their level of conscious awareness bumped up a few notches to be able to deal with what’s supposedly going down here (who on this site would disagree with that!). And even more to make it stick.

The Classical Conditioning, is necessary to prevent the normal first natural response to new ideas / concepts, which is to reject it outright. After repeated and prolonged exposure, acceptance, and then eventually you come to embrace the not so new concept. Right?

WELL, there are, people that say Glen Beck is a schill. Which never really occured to me until i read the suggestion. I think what they were trying to say is that he is a card carrying plant. If you capitalize the p in plant that might make it even more clear. Please note: I wouldnt mention this here, if i didnt have some personal insights on the idea.

So on second thought, TPTB and TOPB (THE OTHER POWERS THAT BE) aren’t called ‘the Powers’ for nothing, so to ‘Insert’ someone into the msm? id say its already being done. and well underway. you also have to consider that the B/F site wouldn’t want telegraph future plans, but only speak of events that are more or less already implemented. Such as we are writing abt here.

The FCC, last time i checked was run by collin Powell’s brother. An appointed position. but that was before obama.

The govt’s legal position is that the airwaves are public property. and the fcc is the gatekeeper for permissible use of same.

So i would be looking at who’s in control or would be taking control of the fcc.

so what do you think about these ideas here pvg?

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and Ya’All

Were the total assests of Iraq monetized into Dinar by the Bushes and Clinton Administrations, after the start of the war with Iraq ? Was not the plan of Saadam Hussein to back his Iraqi Dinar with the nations vast oil commodities and legitimately make claim in the Middle East and Africa that the Dinar was backed by real physical regional assets,and not fiat currency like the ‘world reserve currency’, the U.S. Dollar. This is exactly what he proposed, and Ghadaffi planned to repeat this coup of the Dollar by issuing his physical ‘Gold Dinars’, ‘to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency’. So the U.S. abruptly invaded Afghanastan to preclude that very serious threat , which wwould tremendously percipitate the devaluation of the dollar, likely causing the dollar to collapse Globaly, utterly and completley, especially in the light of unreconcilable National Indebtetness.

There is a ‘mystery Babylon’ afoot regarding the ‘Iraqi’ Dinar. The Federal Reserve(Rothschilds’ Bankster Cartel,along with The U.S. Treasury, have trillions of dinar, to which are proxy to all of the physical wealth of Iraq ,and thereby relegated into the outstanding,issued, dinar.representing , all the collective National Wealth of the nation of Iraq, on the barrelhead, now sitting in the counting house of the usurping owners . Methinks that this being their planned intent, that they have set up Iraq to be stripped of it’s wealth for repayment of the war reparations. Consider this planned master theft ‘end game’ in with the “Oil for Food Scam” and the sacking of billions more of Iraqi oil and WOW,Big Greed has been well fed, but are clamoring for , much more. Of Course other big vultures are in there too, major Dinar investment by the The U.S. shrubs and clingons(a type of poliitcal dingleberry)that has infested DC.
These buggers only get theirs when we have the RV, come hell or high water , these bastards are salivating, NOW !
We shall see how this plays out. There is a great cascade of failing national economies, currencies, likely the Euro too,soon. The White Dragon Society has taken the initative to avert the pending world-wide economic disater. My prayers are that the world’s people will be rescued from the hardships that threaten us.

darylluke
darylluke

That Oct.8th Larouche youtube link gave me the creeps. “1933 style Nazi-coup by Obama is imminent…to stop it, Obama must be impeached now…”

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Wo

I always love your posts and miss you when you are gone.

Edge
Edge

Wo- I appreciate your well thought out, balanced
posts– Your personal opinion, as you see it–
We have some intelligent ladies on the blog–
I also agree that some posters that instruct others
how to act, should look in the mirror–
Edge—

pansy
pansy

I just noticed that so far posts are up this week over last week by about 50%! That’s huge. It must mean, as Cliff High says, that we are feeling the change and it has up more energized and wanting to share and discuss. Last week’s total postings were 996 and I think my post will be number 1485.

Pansy

Edge
Edge

Thanks Nai and Pansy–
The Veterans Today article sheds some light, where
the gold came from, to suppress the price during the
80’s and 90’s—- very interesting article, covers a lot
of area—–
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/24/classified-the-wanta-chronicles-the-covert-economic-war/
Edge—

darylluke
darylluke

Braveheart,
Thanks.Didn’t know they were referring to a separate bottling company.

$3.68-$8.67 range would be my FREEDOM!

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by merek on October 10, 2011 @ 7:38 am

Thank you, merek, for reposting this astounding piece by Nai. I had missed it the first time.

I have listened to many of Dr. Beter’s tapes about 10 years ago. His revelations were cutting edge. If only we could have recognized the truth in them then.

Braveheart

flagged
flagged

@ PVG

few things are more beautiful than a brand new baby. your post reminds me of the baptism and re-birth of Neo in ‘The Matrix’ and him choosing the red pill. and it looks like your just eating it up. Perfect!

i see you’re posting at xl. However i have had some heavy exposure with the strawman stuff from a technical perspective. If you know how to take ownership of your strawman, then you might be able to look at the fantastic potential that comes with same. This stuff IS a real ‘MIND JOB’ that’s for sure!

How am i doing anyway?

secondlife
secondlife

Okay… one last thought. While I was driving home from work this evening, I was thinking about how things can get better here with our communication, since I see a struggle that may benefit from this idea?

In sales, there is a strategy used to gain a customers confidence in the salesmen. It is referred too as overcoming objections.
The maim reason people will buy from a salemen is they TRUST him/her. And the way you build trust is by asking questions. And you keep asking until you overcome them all, or at least enough to earn their confidence.

The main reason why beginner salesmen fail often, is they try too har to be smart. Sounds like us here. 😛 They try to vomit all the knowledge that they have learned and bedazzle the customer. But what they fail to realize is all they are doing is overwhelming the customer and causing their wall to grow higher.

Since we all here want to win over others be the wealth of knowledge we all have learned, we are commiting the same exact mistake a beginner salesmen makes. We keep vomiting info on each other hoping it will either stick, or penetrate enough to win the argument.

This is sales 101 here. We are all salespeople trying to win with our shared experiences. Maybe if we just stop the vomiting of info, which will never penetrate a huge wall… sometimes referred to as ego, and just start asking each other more and more questions… maybe it will help change things here.

After all, things have become predictable enough to know somethings will certainly make their way around again. If we stop the insane process of commiting the same strategies over-and-over again… maybe we will get somewhere? Just a thought? Asking questions are how children learn… and school kids, and then college and so-on and so-forth. So let’s not stop now in our own adult-minded bondage. Like I was saying before… keep asking questions from everyone. And yes, Ben too… awesome first step. And also, not kill the messanger… for the info expressed may not be for any one of us as individuals, but yet, could be for the whole? 😕 Just wanted to share, yet another, idea… can’t keep a problem solver down for too long! 😉 Thank and good night. Be Safe and Be Well

Grendizer

LaRouchePAC LPAC Weekly Report October 5, 2011

Lyndon LaRouche: If the human specie wanna grow up, we got to dump Obama, re-instate Glass-Steagall and go to a credit system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xes0xKEYFo&feature=relmfu

Grendizer

anonymous
anonymous

http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

Quote:
Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on september 29, 2011

…..We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts……

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by darylluke on October 10, 2011 @ 7:44 am

No one believes anybody paid less than a penny for Pepsico stock. the Pepsi referred to is supposedly the local bottling company in Iraq, not owned by Pepsico.

However, nobody believes it was bought and sold that cheap either. Either the Dinar has already concluded. And they are buying and selling on secondary screens. Or something else entirely is going on.

Don’t know. Much speculation. But don’t expect to see a $30 dinar. We’ll be very very fortunate at $3.68 or $4.41. Less likely is the 5.77 or 8.67. But hey, we’ll be lucky to see it at all.

darylluke
darylluke

I forgot where I read it or when.

But, it was estimated that Bush & company holds the equivalent of dinars about $78Trillion if it RV’s at $3.20/dinar.

Why couldn’t the WHITE DRAGON SOCIETY force Bush & company to pay the National Debt with that money?

darylluke
darylluke

But, if this is going through, as the posts are stating, it looks as if it may happen Mon-Tues.

My ebay seller replied that my 25,000 will not ship until WED. Think he is gonna send it to me if it RV’s? FAT CHANCE. (So, once again, day late & dollar short…)

darylluke
darylluke

That quote of 1.94 dinars for a share of pepsi(NYSE:PEP) would translate to ~$30 per dinar!

Not that $5.77/dinar being bandied about last two days…

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Hundreds of Americans Troops/Contractors Face War Crimes Accusations

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
———–
Iraq, a nation horribly divided after an illegal invasion by the US and Britain in 2003 and the ravages of nearly a decade of civil war has decided to play the “war crimes” card while negotiating with the US over a troop pull out.
They don’t entirely want a troop pull out, not really. Though the presence of the US is causing instability, the US is spreading around cash by the bushel, paying off everyone in sight.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/08/iraq-panettas-immunity-request-not-protection-from-icc/

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

wo I am sure if we all were in a room together off the internet in a physical environment where we could act physically against those that demean others and and insult you because you are a single mother …then this discussion would be mute because the ones were way out of line with would of had their ass’s kicked by the others.

I am very sick of the excuses others come up with to defend the white hats .

every marine I know is very respectful of women .

so being a ex marine is not an excuse and a insult to all marines.

The army/marines train the men and women to be gentlemen and lady’s …

Their is no excuse for some of the comments made by them …none what-so-ever .

there are many forces at work against the cabal . Personally I don’t support an asshole weather they are good or not .

just so you know I stand behind you and I am not on the fence.
take the birth certificate issue …..the whits hats should of been going after this issue long before they did and much of the white hats reports were dedicated to that dead horse.
And their reports did not help that cause one bit .
I was into the illegal president and the corrupt democratic party that did not vet him and caused this obamanation to be out president .
I think that the white hats get all their Intell from the same place we do …the internet .

Its all recycled news.
I am sure we all have contributed to the white hat report by finding and sharing info.
Anyway call me old fashion but I can if someone called you what t-man called you I would have to smack them . That is just instinct with me .
always fight for the ladies and still they go with the person that hurt them . lol but i wouldn’t change.
i know you are true to your convictions as i am.
the white hats reports never brought us one inch closer to freedom …
imho

merek

A great internet radio station ,commercial free to listen while you post , ENJOY, those of you who live in Europe and Asia will love listening to it .http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Listen

merek

Just had to repost NAI’s excellent piece for the lurkers and those that missed it the last time
Dear Pansy and others,

If you want to know where the skeletons are buried, visit Veterans Today and read their old stories about “McCain.” That will begin your journey to knowledge and disenchantment with the Powers that Were.

Colin Powell did not just cover up the massacre mentioned, he was instrumental in many others. He had a pretty descriptive nickname that was pretty horrifying. When I began to find out from reading SOLDIER’S accounts of what went on in Viet Nam, the vets that I knew who were so traumatized and smoked pot all the time began to make sense to me. They were sane compared to those that conducted these blood baths for corporate America. Dr. Peter Beter talks about how the Rockefellers wanted Viet Nam invaded to steal the copious deposits of TITANIUM that were there. That makes much more sense that the idiotic “DOMINO THEORY” used to rationalize Viet Nam. The war ended about the time that the deposits petered out and the drug transport lines were well-established.

For those that have not read Peter Beter’s radio show transcripts, I strongly encourage you to do so. When I first read them, I had trouble believing many things that he wrote about like cloning, simulacra and the off-world colonies, but he makes a lot of sense. There are two worlds coexisting on this planet at the present time…both financed by the sweat of the people who work and controlled by the manipulators who don’t.

It is clear that a secret world grew up around the military-industrial complex and that world has combined with the banksters to suck the life out of the rest of us while developing technologies that we were never intended to have. We were to become their perpetual peasants or indentured servants. They were to be the Morlocks to our Elois.

Right now, the cracks are growing daily in the wall that separates our world from their’s. Soon, we will be looking through the wall to the things that we paid for, but could not have. I fear that when that happens, the rage unleashed will be extreme and the consequences grave for those that participated in this massive swindle. I only hope that good people will act wisely and not lose their souls in blood lust regardless how angry the knowledge of what has happened makes them. We cannot forgo the rule of law as these monsters have or we will become them.

One other point that I must make…When anyone presumes to be more capable than other people and aspires to rule, they open the door to tyranny. The one thing that I know from years of observing the world is that: “Those that most want power are generally the least capable of handling it wisely and to the benefit of all.”

We must learn from this experience and push for the open and honest teaching of history to ALL OF OUR PEOPLE from here on out. Even if they don’t understand the value of history, we must never forget. There is a ways to go yet. Things are going to get worse, but they will get better after the crash.

NAI2010

darylluke
darylluke
secondlife
secondlife

Signing off until Ben’s new post. Sorry for pissing anyone off… certainly not my intention. But as the saying goes… shit happens… at least my heart was in the right place while taking my dump! 😛
Best to you all! Be Safe and Be Well

darylluke
darylluke

Thanks everyone for all your insights and opinions regarding the IRAQI Dinar.

Malia6
Malia6

Hey guys,

I wanted to point out the following from the recent Cliff High interview with Clyde Lewis:

One of the callers asked Cliff about the likelihood of the dinar RV and he said that considering that all the Iraqi Oil is owned by the Rothschild that nothing would happen without benefiting them.

I’m not sure how this plays out exactly but i wanted to get feedback from other ppl.

Thanks.

Braveheart
Braveheart

Wo,
I fully support your position on the subject of the White Hats…even as my own has changed some what because of other information that has taken on a larger part of the view for me. You have good reason to think and feel the way you do and to post what you know to be true. Tman is either big enough to stand up and admit to his mistakes or he is not.

I also know that I may be entirely wrong. I hope not, but that is still there. In any case, your positions on both Tman and the Dinar are duly noted.
Just wanted to say that. 🙂

Best,
Braveheart

lew3
lew3

@lew
Hey tell me more about your truth testing. I’m interested. Do you have a website?
Comment by mikazo654 on October 10, 2011 @ 1:29 am
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I have no website about truth testing. Send me an email, so we can set up a Skype video call: LJBiii at charter dot net

secondlife
secondlife

wovolve42 on October 10, 2011 @ 6:01 am

I feel the friction between us… almost a love/hate relationship… you love to hate my lectures. 😛 I get that… sorry we dance to different music… despite liking the same TV shows. 😉

We are in fact, fighting for the same causes, so let us never forget that while we Tango. We are both too valuable to be divided… as is everyone here fighting for the cause… the betterment of society. You may dislike how I talk here… but you cannot argue my commitment for the better of us all. Things just are… the way they are.

My posts directed at you, are also dual purpose… used for everyone… so please try to keep that in your mind as well and not take things so personally. I sometimes get that very feeling… that there is something personal in the way you post towards me… almost like, I may remind you of a very bad relationship, and the second I write something that reminds you of it… it’s cat claws flaring and the attack is on? Man I sure hope not… those types of reactions are hard to get past and I sure don’t want to be the recipient of your misguided anger… that’s for sure!

I know your take on the White Hats, as you do mine? You are against and I ride the middle. I at least give room for change, improvement and the possibility to realign onself to a different cause. As I love to say here… I’m giving enough rope to everyone, and this includes Ben, to play with. If they want to help with the length they have… awesome. If they want to hang themselves with it… so be it.

Point is… as everyone has seen recently with certain people once rigid in their stance… anything can happen? Everyone can change, and until proven guilty of not changing… I’m cool with their agenda. And why wouldn’t I be? Why would I want to limit the options of success? Why would I condemn someone without proper cause? The past is just that… the past!

We are all sitting behind computers, so please tell me how ANY of US really KNOW anything for sure? Again, if you have something profound, then show it already, so I for one, can stop acting stupid, stop lecturing, and make myself a better person with it.

If not… and all you have is what has been written time-and-time again… please let it go already? There is nothing concrete in those words. Really. Just look around… we’d all be with you if there was. You have some of the smartest (you included) individuals that hang at this forum… we’d all love to be even smarter if given a chance?

Otherwise, in my opinion… without any further supportive info… let it rest. 😕 Please? You have to admit, it’s been a while since you have had your connection with them and people do change? And if they have… you’re not helping the once noble cause? In all your best intended action… it would actually be making matters worse now? Just saying?

Thanks as always… Be Safe and Be Well

Braveheart
Braveheart

Poof’s latest 10/9/11

Greetings and Salutations,

Now, if we follow Dante’s version of hell, we are on the first level, can see the light under the door and thru the key hole, see the warden coming with the keys, to open it. The us’ past and present have been adjudicated in the world court. I did not know if these things would transpire before or after, the announcements. Now I have learned they decided to handle the legalities now, to abort any future law suit attempts, by the guilty parties. Whether, we americans believe, the world court has any jurisdiction over our system, I assure it does. The guilty parties wouldn’t have filed there if it had no jurisdiction. This ends the tyranny that began in 1871. Visually, people will start seeing those fringe flags disappearing, out of the courts and other places they have had common placement.

While the media and some of the presidential candidates are playing football with the OWLs up on wall St, the folks protesting the bankers, truth is, we are doing the 60’s again….and I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns into war protests, before it’s all said and done. This is the place, the folks who’ve been in control, never wanted to see again. The bankers got bailed out and the people got stuck with the bill and can’t even get a loan, because the bankers are ‘uncertain’. I bet they are certain about what’s in that subzero refrigerator they got in the kitchen.

http://halfpasthuman.com/grunch.html

This man has been in the back ground prognosticating for some time now. He crunches things in a different fashion then most…kind of like steve jobs did at apple. People ‘feel it’ but no one has been verbalizing it to the point they can understand so, anxiety rises, the sales of the pink stuff skyrockets. When the people lose faith, they don’t care what political party you tag your self with. Centrism always wins…what’s good for the whole. Like your body, if the body parts all argued, that would send you to the hospital. It’s like the old joke about the parts of the body arguing about who was more important in the body, and the silent part, the ‘anus’, just closed up saying nothing, causing all other parts to stop operating correctly. That’s action over, diatribe. There’s one in the middle of the mix right now and I doubt many spotted him yet. Too many emotions for people to see clearly. Anger should be focussed, blind rage is exactly that, blind.

I’m tired of holding up the torch, and now that the court has ruled, I feel secure about setting it down and letting you folks safely board the big ship, as you see fit. The rules are simple, ‘do unto others as you would want done to you’. Is that really so hard? Don’t worry about revenge, justice will be carried out and you can watch it on your tv, if you’d like. I’m old enough to remember, seeing a bunch of trials from ww2 coming on tv. This time, I’m not watching, I’m turning my back on the whole shooting match and go enjoy myself doing something else. Time to become the ‘new human’ and leave the neanderthals behind. We won’t be driving model T’s anymore and we won’t be paying for electricity anymore, sounds like change to me. See ya, Mr Slate. Yabba dabba dooooo!

The person who needed the power to perform, now has it so, everyone hang onto their shorts.

Love and Kisses;

Poofness

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://youtu.be/ObjiTKIPDjU

Lloyd Pye – Everything you know is wrong

bienmaquen
bienmaquen

History repeats itself: From 1844-5’s Berlin Conference to the 2011 Invasion of Libya
http://businessafrica.net/africabiz/arcvol2/email124.php#berlin

kohala889
kohala889

Comment by flagged on October 10, 2011 @ 5:54 am

Mahalo flagged. If you’d like that updated list of members’ locations, email Lew and he’ll forward to me. Then I’ll have your email. Prefer not to post the list again at this time. Aloha

wovolve42
wovolve42

In regards to the dinar, I do hope it RV’s – I know that it will benefit a great many people who truly need it right now. I think that things are happening so fast and furious right now, its very difficult for any to keep up with it all- the best thing any of us can do is center ourselves, heal our hearts, let go of all resentment and judgment – for that is what is keeping the dark shadows going here on the earth. I appreciate everyone’s posts here- I learn something from all of them. I have been working on taking the energy in, integrating it and transforming it into light- Energy is neither created or destroyed, but transformed.

Braveheart
Braveheart

Peace,

First you are confusing Americans with a rogue government that does not represent them.

Secondly, I am not from Wyoming and find your analogy of a filthy joke to represent Americans on the whole to be very disturbing.

As for Californians…I’ve met lots of truly great ones.

Here is what I’ve learned about people: We get what we attract. And usually we attract what we are. They say that if you don’t like the kind of people you are attracting into your life, change your self. I know that it works.

As for the Dinar, after many months of research I began to realize what it could mean to the world. It can keep us going for another couple of years. And that is all we need to get us beyond the time when the Darkside can take us over.

In case you hadn’t notice, I did not expect you to accept the Dinar offer. It was made to hopefully get you to realize that you are being judgmental of people you do not know and could not presume to know.

Such judgment invariably carries a heavy price.

Best to you,
Braveheart

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://youtu.be/gsMKMMlleOE

JFK II – The Bush Connection (2003)
*************************************************
If you want to get a very clear idea of the JFK assassination, the involvement of Nixon and all the other major players in it, watch this excellent documentary.

secondlife
secondlife

flagged on October 10, 2011 @ 5:41 am

Hey Flagged… thanks for the reply… figured if I cast enough in the pond, someone will eventually bite. 😛 Fish either bite when they are hunger, or when they are just trying to move something away from them. I get your feel… and appreciate your thoughts.

My stance is rather simple, but complicated as well. The skinny is this… I’m a fighter… I give it my absolute all in everything I do… it’s called total commitment. It made me excel in sports and helped me achieve what most could not! So with this mindset… I just wait until I find what is right for me to commit too. I am not quick to just back something, since with my commitment comes a great deal of pride as well. It hurts more to be wrong and to have to redo something… especially if it could have been avoided in the first place. 😉

I get your whole take on having to make a choice and riding the middle can be paralyzing… but trust me… when I make a choice it’s one that can be felt and appreciated. And should I make a mistake after all my pondering… I’m quick to apologize and readjust, so to never commit the same mistake again. I have many flaws and far from perfect… but I will never stop trying to better myself and will always back those who deserve it.

Sorry if you don’t identify with my position… but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts either way! You’re just another asset to the board… and together, hopefully we will find ourselves out of this mess! 😛 It takes us all, since each of us TOGETHER are the pieces to the whole! Thanks again. Be Safe and Be Well

wovolve42
wovolve42

Secondlife – the information I posted today confirming the email that Ben sent and that Tman and his group were not White Hats when they started out on their quest to recover the funds for their client(s) and for their fee is not my opinion, but was told to me by Paladin and Tman. Take the information as you will, it does not matter to me either way.

Peace – thank you for your post- Im glad you are still making your presence here even through hutz – I miss your regular posts.

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

On October 2, NASA’s SOlar Heliospheric Observatory
(SOHO) captured footage of a bright comet impacting
with the Sun, followed by a coronal mass ejection (CME).

NASA’s statement that, “While it looks to the casual
observer that the comet triggered the ejection, the
apparent relationship between an incoming comet
and a CME is only a coincidence.”

Present-day proponents of the Electric Model of
the Universe would disagree (see article below
video).

Video:

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/5265.html

darylluke
darylluke

WHITE DRAGON SOCIETY MUST LISTEN TO THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4KmaYu1To&feature=player_embedded

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Uploaded by laroucheyouth on Oct 8, 2011
On Saturday, October 8, Lyndon LaRouche warned of an likely British backed coup inside the United States via Barack Obama as an attempt to deal with the fall out of the Trans-Atlantic monetary system. We feature that warning here along with the just released Three Steps To Recovery? report now posted on the front page of this website.

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Charged with rebuilding Iraq, would you spend taxpayer money on a
sports mural in Baghdad’s most dangerous neighborhood?

How about an isolated milk factory that cannot get its milk to
market?

Or a giant Tyson-style chicken factory with no means of shipping to
places with no refrigeration?

Well, according to Peter Van Buren, we paid for all those projects
and more. What a waste! Watch and listen to just how ridiculous it
gets…

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/5263.html

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Having just read an article on how the FBI is getting ready to
roll-out nationwide facial recognition systems, I scoured the lame
stream media for more information. Nothing.

We knew it was coming, now it’s here, and nobody knows much about
it.

Check out this video primer on what facial recognition systems can
do…

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/5260.html

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Pilots Spot UFO ‘Burning’ Over Moscow – October 6, 2011
“The crews of six passenger jets have reported seeing a UFO in the skies above Moscow. The incident occurred at around 7.30 pm last night.
Pilots say they saw on object that looked like a burning artillery shell at an altitude of 10,000 metres. Witnesses say they also heard a sound accompany the flash.

The Defense Ministry says it did not register anything unusual in local airspace.

Both aliens and residents of Russia have shown a great interest in each other lately, with the media constantly reporting ET encounters, especially in Siberia.
In August 2011, a resident of the Kemerovo Region of Siberia shot a few strange-looking UFO-like objects.

About a year ago, a group of students claimed to have seen a spaceship of an ‘unearthly nature’ in the woods of the Kemerovo Region during a geological expedition. The authenticity of the video is not proven, nor has it been proved that the tape is a fake.

In April this year, residents of another Siberian region, the Republic of Buryatia,… More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhru6fmIZA&feature=uploademail

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 4:53 am
Thank you for your offer to be the trustee of my finances. However, I would like to decline, for I am capable of handling all my affairs.
I realize you were offended by my observation, and that is fine because we are all entitled to our own point of views.
No, I have not had the honor of experiencing the generous spirits of those who reside in the state of Wyoming where you are. For example, I have read about the passionate cowboy who wishes to be made in to a saddle of a horse women ride so that he can be with two things he loves the most when he dies. It is very unlikely to meet anyone like this cowboy where I am.
Since my experience has been limited to the State of California, I only know how the majority of people are in this state. I find them to be rather disappointing to say the least. And because of the current financial condition, I am not at liberty to relocate at this time.
I have seen your strong reactions concerning the RV matter, and I am amazed by this. Why now all of a sudden? Why do you have such strong reactions?
America has done many evil things in the name of whatever that they found convenient excuses for, and my life was deeply affected by them as well as millions and perhaps billions of people worldwide. So, therefore, I have my opinions about what has been allowed to go on in this country and the world.
I am not inaccurate for saying the majority of American people have been the willing accomplices and participants for the conditions they are finding themselves in today. In fact, I was laughed at and ridiculed so many times for trying to do the right things in this country in the past 30 years.
All I can say is that truth hurts, and I will not apologize for stating them.
Sincerely,
Peacrus

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@kohala
re: Good advice on anger from SaLuSa:

When you sense that you are heading towards negativity, we suggest that you walk away from a difficult situation as soon as you realize what is going on

thanks for being a positive force, youre Mr. cool.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Hi XL,

Thank you for your willingness to answer some of my questions. Sorry if I seem to repeat some questions…this is ‘heavy’ stuff! I wish that I would have known of this long ago…I am glad for the foresight of those brave and benevolent patriots/humanitarians who have sought to do something in the midst of such EVIL.

1. T-Man says that we will be keeping the Federal Reserve and IRS infrastructure. That could be practical, could be insidious, could be disinfo, who knows. But the Global Settlements indicate that certain things are abolished. It appears that signatories and beneficiaries of the GS are under contract to abide by the terms of the Trust once the monies are distributed. Any comments on this?

2. Along these same lines, the “money” that has been saved and is being distributed is still fiat currency. So, the fiat currency goes into the Treasury? Geitner is still at the helm…what prevents him from taking the 40-50 trillion in our Treasury?

3. Our birth certificate Straw Man accounts have been collateralized by our lifetime labor (estimates) and are worth millions, apparently. Is there some recompense to each person with a birth certificate/ssan? Since the Birth Certificate and SSAN are connected to the fiat currency (i.e., E Series corresponds to the red letter on the back of the SS card), then it seems like we should all be recompensed somehow.

4. Ben said not to be surprised if the pentagon seizes the MSM outlets and installs reporters tht will speak the truth. I can see that some great reporting coupled with tangible benefits and changes would go a long way to convince the average Joe. However, I’m not certain how those in the government of U.S. Corporation will agree to step down. (Perhaps that is why the book of Revelation says, “Come out of Her, My people, lest you share in her sins and partake of her plagues.” Maybe this won’t happen instantaneously. What is your take?

5. Is the Tim Turner group party to the Global Settlements? I think that I remember some signature lines there. Is that a different group than http://www.republicforarizona.org? What do you think about joining these ‘nations’?

I think that I’d have to sit and think – I have many questions, but I’ll continue to research and learn. 🙂 This is a very amazing time in history.

Thanks for your assitance!

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re: SL’S comment -Why are so many, so quick, to jump aboard a certain view and not stay more neutral? I understand the whole resonance thingy… that you feel comfortable in your positions… but so far, I still don’t see any side that deserves my allegeance.

inquiries? since Ben has ancestry dating back to the Roths in Canada, that he could be apart of the Roth arm, thereby screwing us from their end? ….and we are smack in the middle being played against each other in it all! 😡

SL

here i go again!
disclaimer: dont take this the wrong way, were here to grow.

1. Being on the fence is not an enviable position.
2. I, myself would not take pride in giving the appearance that im a clinically paranoid skeptic. this goes double for the Ron Paul fence riders. If the man’s malevolent i challenge anyone to produce a shred of evidence. no forget that. Show me someone that’s even comes close to his 30 years consistent voting record. Just one. Give me a break. the msm HATE’s him, hes trying to stop sending 3 billion a year going to israel and its powerful lobby. he’s promised to not use the bogus executive power if elected. If you dont believe this man is the real deal you are so messed up and paranoid, i cant see how you can believe in anything. We need to find and support righteous leaders and elect them to change things, not sit on the fence pretending were smart, by not taking a stand.

3. if the bickering is abt dinar rv, thats somewhat understandable because people have immediate monetary interest, so its a pressing issue.
4. at some point we have to say, well, either this man (BEN FULFORD, or whoever)is the greatest actor that ever lived, or he’s the real deal.

5 either way you havent too much immediate liabilities at stake, there fore both positions have significant qualities to appreciate. so why not go with a side?

secondlife
secondlife

Hutz, or anyone for that matter, that can remember back to when Tman first came here… wasn’t he originally against the whole Dinar thingy? I kind of remember him making fun of you about it? Could be wrong, and I apologize if I am… got a father dying of Alzheimer as we speak… But I’m just trying to place the pieces of the Dinat puzzle together to see what makes sense to me? Thanks man
Be Safe and Be Well

pansy
pansy

Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 5:14 am

My comment on Nixon was actually more tongue in cheek as I agree with your observations regarding his insecurities and need to be liked.

Thank you for your personal knowledge and observations of that time and how and why we were taken off of the gold standard. Actually, I believe that all presidents are stooges and can’t get into that office unless they do as they are told. If they don’t, they will be killed… as anyone over 55 years of age remembers well.

Pansy

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10/9/2011 — President Ahmadinejad says weather mod in EU causes drought in Iran
here is my blog post on this : http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/1092011-president-ahmadinejad-says-weather-mod-in-eu-causes-drought-in-iran/

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by pansy on October 10, 2011 @ 5:01 am

Nixon was intentionally caught in a net to force him to resign.

He did take us off the gold standard, but he did it because he asked the banks if he should. They said ‘yes’.

I know this because I was on that particular project, called when B of A got its ‘letter’ from the U.S. Gov regarding this subject.

The truth is, we told him ‘yes’ because we had no idea what it meant to the money system. NONE. I look back on it now and think how naive we were. And I think Nixon was pretty naive as well.

There was a bit too much Sally Field in Nixon. He just wanted to be liked, but was too needy and insecure to ever have it happen.

I have heard stories from Special Forces guys who were in Viet Nam and China performing missions, in which they received calls DIRECTLY from Nixon himself.

Just not sure he was the bad guy. More likely he was set up to take the fall, so they could get someone more to their liking in place.

JMO,
Braveheart

kohala889
kohala889

Good advice on anger from SaLuSa:

When you sense that you are heading towards negativity, we suggest that you walk away from a difficult situation as soon as you realize what is going on. Step aside, make inner space, come back to being grounded and connected to Mother Earth, remember yourself, remember you are love and light in human form. It is important that you do not let yourself be pulled into negative feelings and irritability at this time. We do not ask you to be dishonest with yourself and pretend to yourself that you are happy. This would not help in fact. What we feel would help is you being present and observing the first symptoms of negativity within.

Be anchored into your bodies and connected to Mother Earth in order to be able to do that, and of course meditation practices would help you live in the moment and catch the first signs of a confrontational situation, or any other difficult situation you could find yourself in. Catch your breath accelerating, catch your jaws tighten, your body tensing up, your emotions sending you negative signals and your thoughts taking a certain definite form. What we suggest at this time, is to try to keep yourselves in a balanced and peaceful state. Harmony and joy are the desired states from now on dear ones. So please ensure you keep yourself in a protected and neutral space, so that you can manifest the energies of love and light on Earth at this time.

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/09/salusa-all-will-be-given-the-opportunity-to-ascend/

Jeshua ben Joseph on Forgiveness:

You have been hurt – everyone has been hurt – but refusing to forgive the perpetrator just feeds and maintains the hurt. Maybe the one who hurt you appears to be happy and successful and you resent that and are unhappy – your resentment makes you unhappy, and that feeds your resentment, putting you in a continuous very negative feed-back loop. If you release the resentment and forgive the one who has hurt you, then your unhappiness will dissipate. You cannot be happy while bearing a grudge. Sometimes you get satisfaction when you learn that someone who hurt you has been hurt, but it is a very bitter satisfaction and does not remove your pain or bring you happiness. The only way to happiness is through forgiveness, there is no other way. It is not possible to be happy if you are harboring any resentments or grudges because they cause inner turmoil and anger which are inimical to happiness.

Some may feel that to forgive is impossible because it seems that the suffering the perpetrator has caused can never be healed because it was so extreme. But this is not so; all suffering can be healed when the cause is removed. Suffering continues after that only if the sufferer refuses to release it and dwells on it and on the apparent unfairness or unjustness of it. To do that is to live in the past instead of in the now where everything occurs, and that is to imprison oneself, causing further pain.

When forgiveness is embraced, the one forgiving no longer carries the heavy burden that unforgiveness imposes – the seeking of justice, restitution, or punishment – and frees himself from the unwholesome duties that would otherwise occupy much of his time. The lightness thus experienced is frequently uplifting and very satisfying, and it paves the way for self-forgiveness which will in turn allow love to grow and flourish.

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/09/jeshua-ben-joseph-unconditional-love-is-the-key-to-happiness/

secondlife
secondlife

To clarify my stance on Ben… I enjoy what I read here, and find much to feel true in what is expressed by him. After all, I’m still here. 😛 But I don’t know him personally,… just know what represents him… the one called, Ben. I’ve seen him on video, listened to his words and felt his expressions… And that is all I have to go by. But that alone proves nothing… at least concrete enough to gain my full support. So again, I say we HAVE to look PAST our COMFORT zones to get to the real core, the undenialble truth… OUR truth as a WHOLE! 😉

Hell, most of us don’t “really” even KNOW OURSELVES, so how can we “really” KNOW BEN? I bet most have never even asked themseleves that! It’s about challenge… about challenging everything! And why wouldn’t we? Haven’t most of us here learned that nothing of real value ever comes easily? Effort goes towards the things we value most… isn’t that what it takes?

So why not apply that here? 😕 Don’t we all value life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… the ability to live as “Totally Free” souls? Then start working for it… start asking the right questions, the harder questions and challenge it until the universal truth is exposed!

And this starts right here… with looking more closely at ALL the resources we are currently using to evaluate… Ben included. Thank you XL and all who write directly to Ben. I appreciate your efforts. Although we don’t know who the hell is really replying back… it’s a start. Bravo Sorry for lecturing… but I felt the need to purge! 😛
Be Safe and Be Well.

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Headlines:

Fukushima and related updates:
New Evidence from Fukushima Japan Proves Nuclear Reactors in the U.S. Are Crap

Libya Updates:
Night-time footage shows heavy fighting involving NATO helicopters in Colonel Gaddafi’s hometown of Sirte.

AMERICAN HIT LIST UPDATE:
The Awlaki Sanction: Who’s Next on the List?

Court upholds D.C. gun restrictions(VIOLATING THE SECOND AMENDMENT)
The District of Columbia can bar residents from owning assault weapons and require them to register their handguns without violating the Second Amendment

Nemesis/ Planet X Update:
CNN Slowly Leaks Out Brown Dwarf Star 2nd Sun in Our Solar System Lies About Distance Much Closer???

Occupy Wall Street, the American revolution that the mainstream media is ignoring
Right now in New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Denver, Seattle, and a growing number of other cities, tens of thousands of protestors of all stripes and political persuasions are marching in protest of the corporate corruption that has infiltrated and taken control of the US government

Stock Market Crash 1929, Mystery Unraveled?
These 3 factors caused the Dow to rise exponentially from 238 tot 381 points in de period October 1928 to September 1929, while the underlying economy strongly diminished in strength.

Bad Financial News Keeps Pouring In:
14 Facts That Just Might Scare The Living Daylights Out Of You

Fiat Money: Explained in less than 4 minutes
Despite every effort by governments, the gap between rich and poor continues to grow. It is now the biggest it has even been in history.

Chickening Out in Iraq
How Your Tax Dollars Financed “Reconstruction” Madness in the Middle East

Busy Bill Gates:
Buying Up Africa and Pushing Vaccines In Nigeria

All the above info at the link below.
http://thetruthnews.info/updates.html

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Info Graphic shows the BIG FIVE FRACKING THREATS
From earthquakes to poisoning drinking water this image spells out all the concerns

An info graphic posted on CleanTechnica outlines the concerns that people around the world are raising about hydraulic fracturing. Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking – as it is commonly called, is an industrial process where poisonous chemicals are mixed with water and injected into the ground at high pressures to get to natural gas supplies.
http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21074&Itemid=18

pansy
pansy

In one way or another, they all helped to make prisoners out of us.
Comment by Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 4:58 am

Funny you didn’t include Nixon. He took us off the gold standard and is the only president to ever resign…well, on second thought, maybe the fact that he voluntarily resigned gives him a leg up on the competition?

Pansy

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Photos: Occupy Wall Street Expands to Washington Square Park
Thousands of anti-greed protesters descended on New York’s Washington Square Park today in the latest Occupy Wall Street rally. The crowd of about 3,000 flooded the iconic park and used slogans likening themselves to the ‘Arab Spring’ demonstrations that have toppled several Middle East regimes.

By early Saturday evening, a showdoom was looming with protesters standing face-to-face with police officer ready to enforce a curfew.
http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21078&Itemid=41

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by jtgun2 on October 10, 2011 @ 4:28 am
Right on, JT! May I add in my own?

Presidential Rogue’s Gallery:

Woodrow Wilson
Franklin Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Lyndon Johnson
George Bush Sr.
George Bush Jr.
William Jefferson Clinton
Barak Obama

In one way or another, they all helped to make prisoners out of us.

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here on October 10, 2011 @ 4:02 am

Peace,

You are judging those who hold Dinar.
Yet you yourself hold Dinar. Correct?

Is it because you know yourself that you think you can speak for all Dinar holders and say that they will forget everyone else when this happens…when it is really YOU who will forget? You certainly do not know me nor the Dinar holders I am in touch with. Their plans are magnificent. And they are truly purposed. There is more to life than money. And these people were godsource-chosen to help change the world in which we live.

If you are concerned about yourself in this manner, then I make an offer to relieve you of this burden: You can send your Dinar to me and I shall make certain upon my honor that it will be used to help those most in need. I do not have to worry about such things about myself. I KNOW me.

And there are so many in dyer need. For instance, I know one woman who will die without the RV because her insurance company is refusing to pay for an operation which will save her life. This may seem nothing to you, but to those who know and love her, it is everything.

Yes, Peace, if you are bothered by not being able to trust yourself in generosity, then please by all means, remove it from yourself. To live in such agony of purpose is certainly not a burden under which an honest person should force themselves to live. And to judge others because of it is to add insult onto lives that do not deserve it. I truly believe that holding dinar is a calling to come forth upon this earth and help to heal it.

I await to serve you in this matter.

Braveheart

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re: Shivalingus, October 9, @ 9:44 pm

>”Forgiveness and acceptance and then love is the answer – whatever the question.”

Absolutely. This and only this will bring peace to the world allowing the ascension to manifest in Light.

Thank you for your fine comment.

Respectfully

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4lA5EeWfF0&feature=feedu
Anti-war protesters maced at the National Air & Space Museum

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A Message To Wall Street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44p_A4gOloU&feature=feedu
this voice could be jessie ventura

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“I Love My Country, Not My Government”

Letter to the Ruling Class

You control our world. You’ve poisoned the air we breathe, contaminated the water we drink, and copyrighted the food we eat. We fight in your wars, die for your causes, and sacrifice our freedoms to protect you. You’ve liquidated our savings, destroyed our middle class, and used our tax dollars to bailout your unending greed. We are slaves to your corporations, zombies to your airwaves, servants to your decadence. You’ve stolen our elections, assassinated our leaders, and abolished our basic rights as human beings. You own our property, shipped away our jobs, and shredded our unions. You’ve profited off of disaster, destabilized our currencies, and raised our cost of living. You’ve monopolized our freedom, stripped away our education, and have almost extinguished our flame. We are hit… we are bleeding… but we ain’t got time to bleed. We will bring the giants to their knees and you will witness our revolution!

Sincerely,

The Serfs.

jtgun2
jtgun2

My vote worst president,woodrow wilson,passed federal reserve next 1933 roosevelt with the imprisonment of americans by way of birth certificate.All the rest pawns of the game except for the pawn that wouldnt play anymore.john f kennedy.so he was taken from the board.

sierra
sierra

RE:
May I suggest that you add a short description next time you post a video link. (Ananymous)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I second that motion!

Also, please include the posting date of the video. I realize this may or may not be the creation date of a video, but it is still helpful.

This also for articles IF they have a date.

Thanks, it would be appreciated.

Sierra

secondlife
secondlife

pansy on October 10, 2011 @ 4:09 am

So very true… the knee-jerk reactions are everywhere! I played into them many times, but recently found my way out of the Matrix. I will no longer be played by anyone, ever again… at least I hope! 😉
The solution… like XL touched on… is not to just react… to not allow your buttons to be pushed! And no doubt it is a very hard to stay cool and calm when the most clever find their way under one’s guard… but well worth the energy preserved and protected! 🙂 After all… it’s all about the energy… the life force… our source!
Thanks Pansy… have yourself a great day!
Be Safe and Be Well

sierra
sierra

Re:
Comment by sierra on October 9, 2011 @ 12:53 pm

Thanks for the link to the Kavassilas interview.
I’m not a subscriber.
Did you listen tot he 2nd part?
If so, was it good as I might subscribe to access it.
Comment by anonymous on October 9, 2011 @ 7:58 pm
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Have not listened to 2nd part.

Did attend a workshop/presentation with George this summer.

Sierra

jtgun2
jtgun2

anonymous,1;33,protocols has been printed here several times in last year and a half.But not many seem to care of its importance.Protocol 11,the goyium will wait and see,meaning they will do nothing.That very statement rings a big bell.

diabiblical
diabiblical

braveheart wrote:
Just for the record: Ben’s personal integrity is not in question here. He is above repproach in my book.
————

Could not agree more. It only takes some objective albeit time investing reasearch into the history and character of the man to not be so easily suckered by the laughable concoctions of poorly armed attack clowns.

pansy
pansy

“Just for the record: Ben’s personal integrity is not in question here. He is above repproach in my book.”

Braveheart

I agree with this statement AND I also agree that Ben is human and therefore can only disburse information that is as good as, as honest as, and as reliable as its source.

To further agree with Nai, it is smart to pay attention to the policies and who they benefit rather than focusing on the messenger.

The tide will be turned by people who are thinking and taking well thought out steps, not by those who are reacting and swayed daily by whatever news is right in front of them.

Pansy

secondlife
secondlife

shivalingus on October 10, 2011 @ 3:34 am

You should never feel isolated, or under appreciated… your wisdom shines on us all. And although I also find merit in many of what Darylluke expresses, I am a Libra after all, he was wrong to make you feel badly of your contributions. We are all equal here… enjoy your expressions, as I am sure many of us do! 😉
Be Safe and Be Well

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by aviator on October 10, 2011 @ 1:12 am

That link to LaRouche’s video of 8 Oct is well worth watching.
May I suggest that you add a short description next time you post a video link.

LaRouche Warns of British Backed Obama Coup Inside U.S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4KmaYu1To&feature=player_embedded

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Braveheart on October 10, 2011 @ 3:34 am
Braveheart,
I am with you in that the currency that were artificially devalued by the Nazis need to be restored, for those people did nothing wrong to be going through the hardship that they have endured for so long.
Even though Saddam was a dictator, he was looking out for his Suni tribe’s (he did not represent other tribes) interests by demanding to be paid in Euro, rather than the fiat Dollar. When this was going on, Euro was in better shape than the Dollar although they are all the same now: trash.
What I see going on is the self-serving nature of Dinar bloggers for saying that the people in Iraq needs the RV when in fact they are the one who needs it. And as soon as RV takes place, they are going to forget about the people in Iraq or Vietnam……… This is what the Western nations have been doing in most of the recorded history.
John McCain has the nerve to HATE the Vietnamese for torturing him when he was a POW in North Vietnam. That’s what he gets for trespassing other people’s land.
As for T-man, and assuming that he is the real McCoy, my opinion about him is that he should keep his mouth shut until his mission is completed. For my liking, his lips are too loose, and I find him not trustworthy. It could be the high level of Estrogen in the water he drinks.
T-man said Obama is the worst president who represented the United States. I disagree. The worst President was Bush Jr. who could not even read his teleprompter without faux pas.
So, we agree on some things and disagree on other issues, and this is okay.
Wishing you a blessed Sunday.
Peacerus

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What do you know about Agenda 21 ?

How legislation has devalued lakefront property; deliberate flooding to facilitate “land grabs”; use of terms like “conservation”, “sustainability”, “wildliand projects”, and “water rights reallocation” projects to hide long term agenda plans; subsidies used to change land use….and much more.

Freedom Reigns Program for Sun 10/09/11 @ 4pm pacific time

We will also have a chat function and phone line available for anyone who has questions or comments on the subject…. or who might simple wish to listen in. Please comment below if you have interest in helping out in any way……..Thanks so much …….Freedom Reigns

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Hutz, this is hog wash, I’m not even Jewish… Who starts wars? Politics. Where does politics derive from? The People. Who starts wars now? The people with their idiocracy. All we do and all we have ever done as a “whole” is gang up on minorities. Join this hate group so we can MOB another…Follow the money! and watch this confirmng it 14 minutes + in http://www.presstv.ir/detail/203281.html

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here’s a big spoonful of truth: http://youtu.be/TBrMJuS3Uqw IF AFTER WATCHING THIS … YOU DON’T MAKE THIS GO VIRAL… THEN I THINK YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND BE A PART OF HELPING OTHERS WAKE UP…I’LL MAKE A FRESH POT OF COFFEE…PUT ON YOUR ROBE AND SLIPPERS AND WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

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Notice Regarding Michigan

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FlcqRE1Aw&feature=player_embedded
The Web Bot Project Cliff High – The Future Part 3

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wovolve42 on October 10, 2011 @ 2:10 am
“To All – in regards to Ben’s email response to XL- it is true that negotiations have been taking place for some time now with the Bush crime family regarding the dinar, and they are determined to get a big percentage of it in order for them to agree to the completion of the GS. As far as who is a true White Hat, Tman and his group were not white hats when they started out with their reports – that name was given to them by the person who put their blog together. Something to think about.”
Wo,
Thank you for THE truth as you experienced it. You have more knowledge about the “white hats” because you had association with them for the duration of the period until you decided to pull away from them. It will be nice to hear from Gus who decided to dissociate himself from the “white hats”. It appears that there is a distinction between the “White Hats” and “white hats”, but most people here are only interested in “THEIR” truth; hence no response to your post thus far.
In my opinion, when the global finance is restructured, we will return back to tribalism rather than globalism because we all like to be with people who are like us.
Also, our text books will be re-written to reflect the truth, not the Anglo version of truth, for they cannot speak for all people, nor should they. The Rothschild textbook business must be dismantled.
If one seeks THE truth, not THEIR truth, one finds himself/herself with a company of one. This is good place to be in.
Please continue to post YOUR truth, for we (not the T-man cheerleaders) appreciate it. Thank you.
Peacerus

secondlife
secondlife

nai2010 on October 10, 2011 @ 2:16 am

This commet jumped out at me: ” Even Russia is either banning or requiring labeling on GMO products.”

By the very actions in that one sentence, tells me that Russia is not apart of the Cabal. My logic stands, that if they were to “hide” such labeling, or allow an unfettered proliferation of such harmful crops and products… that would prove they are in bed with the evil cabal and promoting their agenda. By standing-up and standing-out, they seem to me, as one of the good guys? 😕 And great to see… since we need that kind of support to win in this fight! Bravo!

Thanks Nai – as always… greatly appreciate your thoughts and efforts. Be Safe and Be Well

Braveheart
Braveheart

Just for the record: Ben’s personal integrity is not in question here. He is above repproach in my book.

But it is up to us as thinking beings to figure out where the truth lies within all the various streams of information that come to us.

To do otherwise would to not be living up to our jobs here on planet earth.

Just my two cents,
Braveheart

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Pansy,

“THEY” will suffer along with the rest of us. Their time is limited as the situation right now is far worse than it was after the market crash of 1929. The unemployment rates are far higher, the debt is far larger and the number of countries involved is more extensive than after 1929. This means that the BACKLASH against the banksters/pols will be more severe and the length of recovery will be longer.

The worst part of all of this is the destruction of any trust relationship between people at all levels throughout the global society. Nobody trusts anybody anymore. That is a real problem that will persist for a long time AFTER the truths get revealed.

Thank you for your kind remarks. Let me point something out to all of the Cafe’. Right now, every movement out there is susceptible to infiltration. That doesn’t negate their impact as there are many within the movement who are acting out of altruistic impulses. We need to support the calls for reforms like the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall and the repeal of the Commodities Modernization Act that has enabled the food speculation that is exacerbating problems for everybody.

Most importantly, as UGMichael, Merek, Momi, Kohala and many others have written in the past, we have to pour love out to the universe. This is very difficult, I know, but it is so necessary. Hate is the currency of the PTW. We have to counteract that malevolent force with love for each other, our world, the children and the future that can be built cooperatively between people of good will and this small blue rock.

Finally, let me suggest a way to get around all the fruitless discussions that involve labels. VOTE POLICIES, NOT PARTIES. ASK FOR ANSWERS, NOT SLOGANS. ANALYZE EACH POLICY BY ITS RESULTS RATHER THAN ITS MEANS. It is the end results that really matter. This does not mean that I am endorsing the scurrilous methods of the PTW, because I am not, but I think that some of the discussions that relate to socialism etc. are pointless.

For example, creating a national health care system that could reduce the cost of health care makes sense to me. I don’t see such a move as socialistic. Creating a national health care system that carries out an agenda of genocide and chronic disease inducement makes no sense to me. Obama’s plan is the latter. A sensible health care system that serves everybody would not force untested vaccines on the public nor would it push chemo-therapy which doesn’t work except to get rid of industrial waste in a very painful way.

Pooling monies to create infrastructure is not socialistic either. It is a sensible means to assist business in getting product to market etc. The key is: who benefits? Does it help the majority to accomplish something that they individually could not afford and at a reasonable price?

Where I have a problem with these programs is when they are used to REWARD political benefactors at a greatly inflated cost to the public. I have a problem with any program whose central purpose is to enrich a particular group through preferential contracting etc.

There used to be a lot of “mutual” associations in the US that did things like pooling money to pay for building (sort of like non-profit mortgage companies) or pooled money to create insurance funds. These were membership organizations that were non-profit whose executives compensation was carefully monitored and whose central purpose was to provide services to the members not make profits. We might consider returning to that model for many things and create real competition against the various for-profits that have gotten out of control.

Let me encourage people to fall out of love with classifications of their political belief systems and fall into love with intelligent policies and outcomes that benefit the majority rather than the minority.

NAI2010

NAI2010

Braveheart
Braveheart

Peace,

GIST: The Immorality of Your Morality Argument.

IRAQ IS NO LONGER BEING USED TO ITS DETRIMENT. NO MORAL ISSUE EXISTS. AND IT IS IMMORAL FOR ANYONE TO KEEP THIS RV FROM HAPPENING! It is hurting the already downtrodden PEOPLE OF IRAQ.

Regarding the morality of the RV, there is a little factoid that has been ignored of late, that needs to be re-energized:

Orginally, Bush was indeed raping Iraq through the RV. This is what the Nazis do: They rape, pillage, plunder, murder and destroy.

But the Global Settlements changed all that for Iraq. Tman said that the GS had to be implemented first so IT could pay for the RV and thus the Iraqi Currency would be used to help redistribute the wealth of the world. Thus Iraq will be given a very hefty sum to add to its coffers to support the large amounts of currency that will be returning back to its treasury.

If Tman told us the truth, and at this point I choose to believe him, then the GS will not only save Iraq but help them save the world. That would seem a fitting GIFT to the horrible state these people have had to put up with being under a CIA Puppet government for the past too many years which fomented the divide between Sunni and Shiite in order to create chaos and instability in this region.

One more thing: The people of Iraq are DESPERATE for this RV. They are living without electricity and even shelter. Their money is now nearly worthless at 1170 dinar to equal $1.

Braveheart

shivalingus
shivalingus

kohala889 – when I wrote what I wrote part of me wanted some positive ackowledgment. So a big thank you. There are a lot of good people here, perhaps not reflected in the overall input and there are a lot of good people whose input is less positive.

You have made the likelihood of me continuing to post much greater.

Acknowledge the good – you will attract more of it. It is that simple even if it is not always that easy.

secondlife
secondlife

Asking a hard question here…

-Why are so many, so quick, to jump aboard a certain view and not stay more neutral? I understand the whole resonance thingy… that you feel comfortable in your positions… but so far, I still don’t see any side that deserves my allegeance.

Ben has a great board here… but do we really know Ben? Do we really know who “allows” Ben to keep it up? And if “Ben” is even the one posting responses to our inquiries?

It has been speculated in the past, that since Ben has ancestry dating back to the Roths in Canada, that he could be apart of the Roth arm, thereby screwing us from their end? If there is infighting at the cabal level, then why aren’t we asking whether or not this would include the Rocks, verses the Roths and we are smack in the middle being played against each other in it all! 😡

I just don’t get it… we still remain fighting each other over things “NONE” of us really know for sure? And why? I just think we should all back-up a little from everything here, to get a better look. Ask the hard questions about everyone and everything… this includes both White Hats and Ben. After all… both seem to exist with “freedoms” that beckon how and why?

I just wish we all would work more closely together on answering the harder questions and give in more to solution thinking, rather than attacking! 🙁 Just saying. Thanks
Be Safe and Be Well

Grendizer

JESSE VENTURA ATTENDS OCCUPY PROTEST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FlcqRE1Aw&feature=player_embedded

Grendizer

Braveheart
Braveheart

Hi, JT, nice to see you back.

You asked what has happened to me and why I appear to be ‘with them’.

The truth of the matter is, I am not ‘with’ anybody but myself and Godsource.
There is only one thing I truly care about: Love, which is the connection to Godsource. And facilitating the environment for Ascension Mechanics. Period.

I will use whatever is in my environment to effect those two things.

JT, above all else I continue to grow and learn and develop my abilities to connect more fully to Source. Thus mind changes as situations and information dictate and I am able to see more clearly what is going on.

In the case of Tman, I see that NOBODY ELSE was actually doing anything I could relate to. I love Ben, but letting the Rothschilds and the Vatican, etc. off the hook because they now promise to be good guys, just isn’t cutting it with me. These people are crooks. They will say whatever they need to say to stay in a position of power.

Tman (for all his lack of social skills) is the only one doing something I could actually get my fingers around. Everyone else was talking about the GS, but only he was pushing it into reality. There is much anecdotal evidence to this fact.

Tman has now told us that he was a Marine and an Intelligence Officer and that he once worked for the other side. So there is by some stretch of the imagination, an explanation for much of his obnoxious behavior which he seems to be curbing in any case. Maybe he is growing too?

Still, do I trust him 100%? NO, of course not. But I am grateful for his courage and for what he is doing.

But neither do I trust Ben’s sources to tell us the absolute truth. You know how many times he has had to recant something he’s said.

There is no doubt in my mind that Tman has a big payday coming for implementing the Global Settlements. I’m sure that, and the idea he is doing the impossible, prolly motivate him quite a lot.

But I don’t care about his personal motives. He is doing something very useful to the world from my point of view. And thus I am supporting him in this endeavor. As to anything beyond the Global Settlements…well, he is incorrect about a lot of things, such as taxes, etc.

It is true that Tman came into this blog acting like the Godfather. My grandmother told me not to ‘throw the baby out with the bathwater’. So I’ve decided to see if he can do the impossible and get the GS set within the framework of the system.

Also, I believe that Tman and company are working with the other White Hats. That they are all the same now.

I could be wrong. But maybe not. I hope not. But for right now, it is where my ‘gut/heart’ are taking me. And so I’m riding it out.

JT, thanks for asking.
Braveheart

kohala889
kohala889

Forgiveness and acceptance and then love is the answer – whatever the question.
Comment by shivalingus on October 9, 2011 @ 9:44 pm

Shivalingus, your comment reflects perfectly my own thoughts on justice, punishment, karma and the relationship of good and evil. That which we consider evil is simply an unripe condition before transmuting to full ripeness. And it’s a necessary transitional stage which enables the Light to become more aware and more fully expressed. Mahalo.

PS, Hope that you continue to comment. We need more positive input here.

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Sorry Foodrules, don’t know where I got the idea you were in Eugene OR

Aloha All

pansy
pansy

The time ahead will be difficult, but we will survive.

NAI2010
Comment by nai2010 on October 10, 2011 @ 2:23 am

From the information that is coming out, it might be tougher for ‘them’ too. You make the sand box…you get to play in it…cat doo-doo and all!

Pansy

pansy
pansy

Comment by secondlife on October 10, 2011 @ 2:03 am

Secondlife,
Congratulations! You restricted yourself to just one happy face in that quite long entry.

*grin*

Pansy

mikazo654
mikazo654

foodrules

You’re not in Eugene? Where are you then? Perhaps you should update Kohala if you haven’t already.

secondlife
secondlife

wovolve42 on October 10, 2011 @ 2:10 am

Interesting. Thanks for the reporting your opinion. I’ll take that into consideration… just as I will the other side as well. To me… it is just as equally possible that Tman has switched sides and is working for the betterment of society.
After all, so far nothing here has been exposed to be the “total truth”, the jury is still out… otherwise, we’d all believe in it, and there would be no further discussions on the matter? 😕 But thanks as always… greatly appreciate your remarks. Have a great day!
Be Safe and Be Well

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Pansy,

Behind the scenes, I was begging the guys at VT to do that story. Among the comments made to me were: “The other guys that tried to cover this are now dead,” “nobody really wants to talk,” and “we want to do it, but we have to find a way to protect our sources and our reporters.”

Please send a thanks to Gordon Duff and Jim Dean for covering this story. It took real guts. Guyatt had written a bit about it on DEEP BLACK LIES (another great website), but from a more “British” angle.

For those dedicated to the truth, each little bit that gets out needs to be applauded. If Cliff’s latest report is accurate, expect some big surprises throughout the rest of this year and into the next.

By the way, Cliff did say that the PTW will be sending the constant message that they cannot be beaten at this game even as they are booking passages on the next flight to Israel or other hidey holes. He said that there will be a wave of suicides in their ranks as well.

The time ahead will be difficult, but we will survive.

NAI2010

nai2010
nai2010

Dear BFCers,

There are a number of states now fielding laws that will affect GMO products in a variety of ways. It is ludicrous that we aren’t labeling here. Even Russia is either banning or requiring labeling on GMO products.

NAI2010
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http://gefoodlabels.org/gmo-labeling/state-and-local-labeling-initiatives/

State and Local Labeling Initiatives

CFS has long worked with grassroots movements in individual states, counties, and municipalities in furtherance of improving the oversight of genetically engineered crops and foods. To this end CFS has a number of “model” state bills or local initiatives to better protect non-GE farmers, prohibit GE crop planting, or require labeling, among other things. Through these efforts CFS has successfully assisted in the passage of numerous bills in the past, around the country. Interested parties seeking counsel on getting an initiative started in your city or state should contact CFS at office@centerforfoodsafety.org.

Several U.S. states are currently considering bills requiring labeling or prohibiting
genetically engineered foods.

California

AB 88 Labeling of genetically engineered fish
Bill passed The California Assembly Health Committee but was held as a 2-year bill.

A ballot initiative is also under consideration in California for the 2012 ballot. We will update this page regularly with information on filing and signature
gathering efforts. Visit http://www.labelgmos.org for information on the initiative

Maryland
HB 1261 Prohibiting a food product that contains or consists of ingredients of which more than 1% are genetically engineered ingredients from being sold in Maryland.

New York
A1367 Provides for the labeling of food or food products that contain a genetically engineered material or that are produced with a genetically engineered material.

A3716 Requires all seeds that are or include genetically engineered organisms to be
labeled.

S3908 Provides for the labeling of food or food products that contain a genetically engineered material or that are produced with a genetically engineered material.

Oregon
SB 517 Declares genetically engineered fish and shellfish sold for human consumption to be misbranded if not labeled or otherwise identified as being genetically engineered.

HB 3272 Makes foods that contain or are produced using genetically engineered material subject to labeling requirements.

Tennessee
HB 1928 ”Genetically Engineered Food Labeling Act of 2011″ requires that
GE food that is sold or distributed in Tennessee bear a label that is plainly visible which contains the conspicuous words “genetically engineered.”

North Carolina
HB 446 ”Labeling Requirements/GMOs & rBGH in Food” -requires that a GMO
food or milk product from animals injected with rBGH be labeled with a conspicuous label.

Vermont
H.123 An Act Relating to Labeling Genetically Engineered Salmon.

H.367 An Act Relating to Labeling Genetically Engineered Food.

H.421 An Act Relating to the Use and Registration of Genetically Engineered Alfalfa Seeds in Vermont.

pansy
pansy

Nai,

I finally found the Leo Wanta and Yamashita’s Gold on the Veterans Today site. Wow! I agree, what a read! If explains so much more about 911 and a ton of information about George Bush Sr. that will curl ones toes. Great find!

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/24/classified-the-wanta-chronicles-the-covert-economic-war/

Pansy

Grendizer

OCCUPY WALL STREET: Jail The Bankers! End The Fed! Restore The Republic!

These are the basic demands protesters on Wall Street and across the nation should ask:
1. Jail the criminal banksters
2. End the Fed
3. Restore the Republic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKl7LYRaM9k

Grendizer

wovolve42
wovolve42

To All – in regards to Ben’s email response to XL- it is true that negotiations have been taking place for some time now with the Bush crime family regarding the dinar, and they are determined to get a big percentage of it in order for them to agree to the completion of the GS. As far as who is a true White Hat, Tman and his group were not white hats when they started out with their reports – that name was given to them by the person who put their blog together. Something to think about.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

For those that want to push for safer foods…

NAI2010
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http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/1881/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5452

Tell the President that genetically-engineered foods must be controlled and LABELLED

foodrules
foodrules

Nai,

Your info is thorough and yet concise. Thank you so much. If only I could remember it all. It is important stuff! Thank you!

~foodrules

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’ Members,

I think that our next party should be GMO-free! For those that want to stay well…a helpful list and a couple of articles.

NAI2010
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http://www.nongmoproject.org/consumers/search-retailer-endorsers/

List of stores that have declared themselves GMO-free. This is a national list.

There are other resources on the same site under the heading of “consumer”

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foodrules
foodrules

Mikazo,

I don’t live in Eugene, Oregon so you don’t have to be confused anymore.

I am glad you are here to share info from your part of the world.

~foodrules

secondlife
secondlife

jtgun2 on October 9, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

Good to see you back and hope your leave helped you some?

Far from me to want to whip a Bee-Hive here, but to interject to your above comment… to me, it’s called growth. We only improve in our personal development when we take into consideration all points of views and look at every angle when assessing things. To stay ardent in one’s position regardless of the truths spoken, just limits our ability to learn.

Isn’t it obvious that he found something that rang true to him? So then, why wouldn’t he change his view? Again, it’s called growth. Don’t you want to learn? To act like you personally know everything and never take into consideration someone elses opinion just exposes how your Ego has taken control of your ability to learn. You are truly wasting your time in attacking others and never incorporating what could truly benefit you.

An observation I have seen… and I hope you take it as constructive criticism, is that although I’m sure your heart is in the right place and you have good intentions, your one liners… your attacks on others who feel differently than you, like with the Dinar, does nothing to help and only whips the Bee-Hive.

It’s just like you don’t like when Merek (who does an incredible job) tries to educate you about religion. It does nothing but angers you and causes you to retaliate. So then, why don’t you try to do the same in return and just reply back to those who ask for your opinion and not just blurt out remarks that contribute nothing? Again, your opinion is truly welcome when directly asked for, or has supportive evidence to back it. Otherwise, it seems like a directed attack? No? 😕

Just seems like the most logical way to conduct oneself? And definitely keeps the stupid arguments to a minimum. It’s all about respect brother. Again, I’m sure you mean well… just trying to help here.
-Peace Be Safe and Be Well

foodrules
foodrules

This is the latest report from the Galactic Federation. For those interested, enjoy!

“In next to no time you will be reaching that magical 11.11.11, when each soul will be lifted up whether they are aware of it or not. It will help calm situations that are causing concern, as we do not wish to see the Middle East conflicts accelerated. What has been happening is the result of people waking up, to how they have been manipulated and used to support the lives of those who rule over them. That energy for change is sweeping the world and with the intent of the people, it is going to be like a tidal wave washing away everything in its path. In the West such movements are gradually gathering pace, and the authorities are trying to stem their impact. They cannot be ignored for long and the people will win this battle.

Not everyone likes the idea of demonstrating, but it is the type of energy that is found with the younger generations who are fearless where it is concerned. They are the ones who understand that the old ways are no longer acceptable, and will continue their protests until they achieve success. Many are those souls who have incarnated for this purpose, but also carry the answers to the problems having higher levels of consciousness than most people. It is all part of the greater plan for your release from the dark Ones and their hold on you. For some time you have been learning of what the future will bring, and it will change the face of your societies beyond recognition. How ever much some prefer to remain in the 3rd. dimension, once they become aware of how much they will benefit from the changes, they will realize that they have so much more to gain rather than lose.

Everyone desires to live a happy, joyful and peaceful life, and that is what lies ahead for you, as eventually those souls who are not ready for Ascension will leave the Earth. There will be an unavoidable parting of the ways based on a souls vibration, and that will allow those of a higher vibration and consciousness level to come together. They will be the ones who have rightly moved out of duality because its lessons have been learned. As we have informed you quite often, it is you who determine which level you reside in whether you are directly aware of it or not. You will understand from this that you will be following a path that is absolutely right for you. There would be no gain if you were to find yourself at a level that you could not cope with.

We know that some of you who are kind decent souls, are worried that for some reason you may not be ready for Ascension. Our answer for you is that if you are living a life where you avoid being judgmental, and can find it in your heart to be loving to all souls you have nothing to be concerned about. It is not about being religious, taking courses or buying your way into heaven. What counts is what you are inside, and if you are living your truth as far as possible you are well on the path to Ascension. Remember that your Guides know the real you, and if it is your aspiration to ascend they will be helping you to do so. Heaven rejoices each time a soul turns to the Light, and there is no turning back once you reach that decision.

It is hard to understand that life on Earth is an illusion, but if you can view it that way and see it as only a passing phase of experience it will have less impact upon you. It really is like the Holographic Deck on Star Trek, except that very few of you realize the truth. Before you entered your present life, you knew what your objectives would be as does everyone else who is part of it with you. Freewill is still yours, but you are unlikely to avoid opportunities that come to you that are part of your life contract. Your aim is to experience in a way that speeds up your evolution, therefore they are carefully chosen for maximum benefit to you. When it is a family karmic situation you can help each other through your experiences, and that helps create a strong bond between you all. You travel through life with little awareness of it, but your lives are carefully planned so that you gain the most out of them.

After such a long time in duality you are feeling the mental tiredness, and drag of the lower vibrations. To us it is extremely heavy and cloying, and we understand the effects upon you. That is why we have so much admiration for those of you who are able to lift yourselves up out of it. You have an astonishing degree of intent, and your resilience against all of the odds is well known. You are truly the heroes of the hour and your rewards for such a powerful stance are soon to manifest. You are wonderful souls, and we kneel at your feet in recognition of your Light and Love.

Regardless of your beliefs, there is no doubt that the changes are being felt by virtually everyone. There is also an anticipation of what lies immediately ahead, and as time speeds by you know that it will not be much longer before a major event occurs. Then you shall experience a whole series of events that will quickly carry you forward into the “promised land”. By now you have a good idea of what to expect, but even so it will pleasantly surprise you by its scope. We talk of world wide changes as every soul together with Mother Earth is involved.

You will undoubtedly note that unlike the predictions of the gloom and doom merchants, Mother Earth has been relatively quiet and there has not been the worldwide destruction of catastrophic proportions. However, there are physical changes necessary and when they occur we will monitor them with a view to keeping their affect to a minimum. For those of you in areas that are noted for earthquake or volcanic activity, follow your intuition as to when and if necessary you feel you should move. The first signs are often noticeable in Nature and animals have a more sensitive re-action to changing energies. They will leave in advance of the actual event, so their actions are worth noting.

I am SaLuSa from Sirius and can tell you that the Galactic Federation are poised to back our allies on Earth when they push ahead with removing the Illuminati and their minions. We all need to know that they along with their power have been removed, before we can work openly with you. The critical period approaches and we look to make our move without further delay. Stay firmly on course for Ascension and you will have nothing to worry about – all is as well as ever, and we are with you all of the way.”

Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
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~foodrules

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal Updates October 9th, 2011

SaLuSa: All Will Be Given the Opportunity to Ascend

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/09/salusa-all-will-be-given-the-opportunity-to-ascend/

Jeshua ben Joseph: Unconditional Love is the Key to Happiness

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/10/09/jeshua-ben-joseph-unconditional-love-is-the-key-to-happiness/

+ Be Well +

Truth

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

The questions asked in the post below are excellent ones that I would like the answers to.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 7, 2011 @ 3:51 pm

NAI2010

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’ Members,

One way to find out who is telling the truth and who is not is to follow the money trail. Groups that come out of nowhere but seem to have sophisticated websites and fund-raising are often funded by the bad guys.

For example, the 10th Amendment guys are getting money from a group that ties back to the KOCH BROTHERS. The Koch Brothers have also funded the Libertarian Party and Reason Foundation (Bob Poole). The Reason Foundation’s Bob Poole has been pushing for people to pay for every mile that they travel in order to fund roads (he seems to have missed the fact that there is already a ROAD tax built into gasoline sales).

There are a couple of ways to figure out where a group is coming from…first, check out their website ownership and how much security it has. Real people aren’t as good at hiding ownership and addresses as the bad guys. There are some exceptions to that rule like military guys trained in cyber security who have turned whistleblower. But, in general, if a website is extremely well-secured and the ownership hard to track down and it has a slick interface, it is an operation backed by more resources than the average person can afford.

Once you have located the “ownership,” try visiting the secretary of state where the entity is registered. See if it is held by another entity to further diffuse the control/ownership issue. Highly complex holding structures are a critical identifier of OPERATIONS backed by big money.

More tips later,

NAI2010

pansy
pansy

Comment by nai2010 on October 10, 2011 @ 1:17 am

Nai,
I’ve been on the site but can’t seem to find the story you are referring to. A link perhaps?

Thanks,
Pansy

anonymous
anonymous

winwin4all, thanks for the Hatonn links

I finally read the Protocols of Zion at:
http://hatonn.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-09-22T18%3A42%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7
and
http://hatonn.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-10-07T17%3A55%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7

They made me feel quite depressed for they’ve nearly all come to pass. I thought it’ll be useful to summarize them for anyone interested (but read them at the links for the details)

PROTOCOL NO. 1

… they promote internecine strife, which … soon aggravate into battles between classes, in the midst of which states burn down …
When a state has exhausted itself in its own convulsions …. it can then …be … in the power of the Jews.

PROTOCOL NO. 2

Wars have often been referred to as “the Jewish Harvest”….
first, they make a huge profit from munitions manufacturing …
secondly, they … weaken the … other “races” by sending … into battle the flower of manhood of the nations of both sides;
thirdly, when the war is over … the Jews then further ensnare the Gentile nations …. with huge indebtedness and collecting interest upon interest.

PROTOCOL NO. 3

…. they encourage abuses of power by the rulers on the one hand. By agitating and stirring up the mob on the other hand ……. The mobs, under the Jews’ control, will then kill the last vestiges of Gentile leadership and acquit the criminals, so that in the end the mob will unwittingly help the Jews

They … admit that they engineered the French Revolution

PROTOCOL NO. 4

…they have organized the Gentiles into Masonic Orders which are one of their most powerful tools for controlling the world and for driving the Gentile states into destruction for their total Jewish take-over of the world.

PROTOCOL NO. 5

The Super-Government.

PROTOCOL NO. 6

The establishment of huge Jewish financial monopolies…

….. depriving the Goyim of their land … … load land and property with debts …

…. the Jews to engage in speculation and monopolize it. …

… they … promote … a .. demand for luxury which will swallow any earnings … left over. …. they will further encourage… anarchy and … drunkenness. …. exterminate … all the educated forces of the Goyim.

PROTOCOL NO. 7

….. the intensification of armaments, the increase of police forces … and the sowing of vehement discord and hostility all over the world.
….. all that will be left …. will be the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to Jewish interests, and the police and soldiers.

If any country dares to oppose them, the Jews will then collectively organize their neighbors …. destroy that country by universal WAR.

PROTOCOL NO. 8

The manipulation of the courts

PROTOCOL NO. 9

The Jews make a full and detailed study of the character of the people of the country which they intend to destroy. ….

….. controlled “anti-Semitism” is a very useful tool to unite and bring all the Jews in line ….

PROTOCOL NO. 10

…. subjecting the peoples of the world to …. terrible suffering, confusion and torment …. The Jews will then offer them the solution … By a coup d’etat … they will set themselves on the throne of the world.

Some of the tools ….. are to give everybody a vote …; by destroying among the Goyim the importance of the family and its educational value; by creating of the mob

PROTOCOL NO. 11

… the Goyim … must recognize … that …. the Jews, are so strong, so super-abundantly filled with power …. the Goyim will close his eyes to everything and be content to wait and see how it will all end.

PROTOCOL NO. 12

…. deals with the tremendously important role the Jewish-created Masonic Orders and Masonic Lodges play in control of the press, government and the Gentiles as a whole.

PROTOCOL NO. 13

… use their Gentile agents of the press to … distract ….
The Jewish controlled press alone will guide the people to … all forms of opinion

PROTOCOL NO. 14

When the Jews have established their despotic kingdom, they intend to make sure that no other religion will exist ….

PROTOCOL NO. 15

One-day coup d’etat (revolution) over all the world. Executions. etc

PROTOCOL NO. 16

…. the Jews plan to emasculate the universities by re-orienting them in a new direction, one that is useful to the Jews…..

PROTOCOL NO. 17

Special training of their own attorneys.

PROTOCOL NO. 18

…. set up conspiracies of their own …. to round up the potential opposition that might develop by natural means.

PROTOCOL NO. 19

No dabbling in political affairs …… whatsoever

PROTOCOL NO. 20

…. money, taxation and interest.

PROTOCOL NO. 21

.. the Goy governments … are all hopelessly deluged with an overwhelming sum of debt …. they have to borrow money to even pay the interest on the mountains of debts that they now have piled upon the stupid Goy.

.. when the Jews ascend the throne of the world … They shall replace the money markets by … government credit institutions … to fix the price of industrial values ….

PROTOCOL NO. 22

“In our hands is the greatest power of our day—gold.” ….. having accumulated all this wealth, isn’t this surely proof that their rule is predestined by “GOD”?

PROTOCOL NO. 23

…. By …..depriving the people of all forms of luxuries, they will force them to become more humble and …. obedient. …. they will … reduce large manufacturers to a people of small masters and small units. This is a return back to the Middle Ages. Drunkenness will also be prohibited by law and will be punishable as a crime….

PROTOCOL NO. 24

The coming King of the World and King of the Jews must have his … lineage confirmed in the … roots of King David. He will … be selected and sponsored by three of the highest Elders of Zion. ….. The king will .. be inducted into the most secret mysteries of the political, into the schemes of government, and into the whole program. All these secrets, … will be strictly kept within a very limited inner circle.

rustynails
rustynails

Armed Chinese Troops In Texas – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY&feature=player_embedded

Ron Paul 2012!

maclin
maclin

nai,

Your last post reminded me of an argument I had with a then set of co-workers about 1.5 years ago. The subject of “Redistribution of Wealth” stemmed from an Obama bashing conversation. The “zeitgeist” of that time had that phrase as referring to “wealth” redistributed among the undeserving. I always took it at a much broader scope, so I laughed and said “That has already happened…”. I tried to explain my point that they were worred about their small piece of the 2% or so “we” get to play around in. The other 98% has already been re-distributed to a small percentage of the population after each “economic crisis” the uber-wealthy manufactured over the past.

mikazo654
mikazo654

kohala889

Don’t tell me I’m the only one in Korea!

Hmm… foodrules lives in Eugene Oregon, but
eugenekalmes lives in Chicago. That’s confusing.

Anyone in Germany or Japan want to chat sometime? Actually this blog needs more Russians.

pansy
pansy

Comment by nai2010 on October 10, 2011 @ 1:03 am

Nai,
You are an intelligent and gifted woman and I pray that your most profound words find venue for all to read.

Pansy

mikazo654
mikazo654

@lew

Hey tell me more about your truth testing. I’m interested. Do you have a website?

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

You all need to read the Leo Wanta story that relates to YAMASHITA’S gold to understand what has really been going on. That gold could be used for RVs instead of for the evil uses that it had been put to by the CIA and Bush cabal.

The Leo Wanta story is on Veterans Today.com

NAI2010

aviator
aviator

You all might want to listen to this before Ben’s next post…

Pretty short.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4KmaYu1To&feature=player_embedded

maclin
maclin

Regarding Tman, Pal, White Hats and related…:

I believe Tman was part of the PTB’s enforcement arm at one time, he believed thru all that time that his actions were just and patriotic and god fearing, and in his mindset at that time those three ideals were all connected. In his writings and live interview statements he mentions that others in his same situation began to wonder about those ideals being subverted and perverted and that was the root of the White Hat group’s emerging philosophy. He came in later I think, or maybe about the same time. That group’s new(?) ideals caught on within the intelligence community and military and all the different factions that have been mentioned, so the WH group grew and I think he has said it is still growing.

I have used my own discernment to remain neutral in any assessment of Tman or Pal’s or any other entity’s “truths”. I am naturally cynical, however I am also not naive enough to think I know all about the world they or anyone else move about in. As an example, I read stories about the sea and old mariners and storms and all, and I think I understand technically how their ships moved and navigated and all that, but I have no idea what the day to day duties for each participant are, or what duties are assumed to get done with no actual schedule, to keep myself and the rest of the ship’s occupants alive and getting to where we need to go. I am sure many of those duties are unpleasant, and may seem silly or unnecessary to an outside observer who spent all of 3 minutes analyzing the visible tasks being performed during their short window of viewing.

One of Tman’s statements about the Dinar RV is an example of something that needs more research in my opinion, and it could help in discernment of motives if more facts can be found. The statement, and this is one he would not let go of and stuck to in many posts, is that the Bush factions get $X amount per Dinar after any RV, he said to just get over it, that is the nature of the biz (I am paraphrasing, please feel free to augment or challenge). This could be intel from the “old days” before he converted, that he feels no one has any power over. It could also be something he is protecting as part of the settlements from old loyalties. One other thing regarding the Dinar RV, it appears he was either truly unaware or was pretending to be unaware of the RV. Then he began posting about it, and the Bush deal came up. Again, this could be that he did not know about it and researched it or asked other members of the hats and they knew of it. Or it could be that he had trepidations about putting it (his awareness of the RV and how it would go) all out there at first.

Plans within plans within plans. Many people working for the same just goal will oppose each other not realizing that there are many routes that must be traversed, each with necessary tasks that others are not aware of, and indeed could not be aware of if they are truly dedicated to the route they have chosen.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Mbridges,

Thank you so much for that link to the occupy Wallstreet 99 percenters. Seldom have I been so moved. I wrote a commentary on it and sent it to a couple of websites.

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Dear WHOMEVER,

Here are the facts:

80 percent of the world’s wealth is owned not by those that CREATE it through the sweat of their brow but through financial subterfuges, tax evasion and wars

Wars are just one mechanism used to TRANSFER wealth from the middle and lower classes to the wealthy who own the arms factories

Government contracts are another mechanism to transfer wealth from the general population to the richest members of society who often DON’T pay taxes in proportion to their income and what they recieve

The stock market is rigged by what are called high performance “optimization platforms.” These are computer programs that sell the stock of the brokers/investment banksters at the best prices AHEAD of their own customers…(read “THE LORDS of TIME on Asia Times website” The Russian programmer who discovered this fact and told Germans and Russians about the rigging went to jail.

They call us by names like PIIGS, “useless eaters” and other insulting appellations, but they are the ones with the over-flowing bellies sitting on the balconies of Wall Street drinking champagne and mocking the people that they have stolen from with derivatives and other illegal and uncertain alleged “investments”

They don’t know how to change a spark plug, drain the oil from a lawn mower or car; wash dishes, prepare or grow food, but we are the ones that they call “useless”

They refuse to fight in the wars that they start for reasons much like the one given by Dick Cheney to explain why he did not go to Viet Nam..Cheney said, ” he had more important things to do.” If that is the case, then these wars cannot possibly be for the purpose of protecting our nations or strategically important…because if they were, even the uber-rich would protect their own interests

Their solution to the vast disparities in wealth is to KILL those that want fairness, equity and justice

The fact is that there are very few of them and BILLIONS of US. All we have to do is to say, “No.” If we withdraw from their system, they lose everything. This is what they fear most, not rebellion, non-compliance.

To those who defend stupid policies because these policies might transfer wealth because they might someday be rich…you cannot be rich if a few own all the wealth and WON’T GIVE BACK WHAT THEY HAVE STOLEN THROUGH RIGGED SYSTEMS.

I am a proud member of the 99 percent and I do know how to change the oil on a lawnmower. I plan to send food to the people occupying Wall Street. While I may not agree with all their points (I do not support open borders), I do think that the time for change is way past.

YOUR NAME
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http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

We are the 99 percent. We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything. We are the 99 percent.

Brought to you by the people who occupy wall street. Why will YOU occupy?

OccupyWallSt.org
Occupytogether.org

shivalingus
shivalingus

My ideologies (sic) are not entrenched in the us and them mentality that your gravatar screams. You espouse death and destruction. If I was the compassionate kind, I might give you some new-age bullshit. I am not however – and whatever you choose matters not one jot to me.

If you read what I say again – the truth is this: What you resist persists – you are engaged in a struggle, I am not. Your posts have always espoused violence and pain. This is your choice. I understand you can not love evil – I am not saying I can – but if you accept it first, then you are no longer fighting it. After acceptance, then love is possible.

In the bigger picture we are all part of one whole – evil is the flipside of the coin. It has its purpose – its purpose is not so that it can be met with violence. This perpetuates the struggle, perpetuates the evil (this is your agenda).

You are stuck in the smaller picture, us versus them. Struggle and pain – this is fact – your posts regularly establish your position. I do not want to argue the toss with you – I know your response already – it is to come out fighting against anything that you do not identify with. I question why I am writing this anyway.

As for followers I have none and would not want any. Followers are always one step behind.

You are attempting to make this a personal fight “your idealogies (sic)…” “your followers….” I will not rise to your bait. You are the one who is going to save yourself not GOD – take responsibility man.

I read Fulford and enjoy his words. I rarely read the comments anymore. Your response confirms this. It is a question of resonance. The same reason I no longer hang out with my friends from 10 years ago.

I never read your comment. I merely scrolled up from the bottom and read jtgun2’s comment, referencing your comment. For better or worse I felt moved to respond. Darkness can not stand the light – the torch of truth is – FOR THE MOST PART – wasted here. Some pearls to be found here it is true, but so much dark, dense, us-versus-them irrelevant spouting, that I rarely waste my words.

How is your ideology serving you? Sounds like your life is a pain-filled mess. PREACH YOUR DEATH CULT by all means, it has no place in my life.

I mean you no personal attack Daryl Luke.

I also know there is no point offering olive-branches to those who espouse violence. I also know that the pattern of pain wherever it occurs is simply the past repeating itself. Something really painful happens early on in life, which unless processed, will continue to repeat itself, until it is given acceptance, forgiveness and love. Of course loving evil seems like 100% insanity when you have no love or forgiveness for yourself. The good news (should you choose to receive it – most do not) is that you are in control, you can choose to accept and forgive whatever has happened to you, just as I can. Once you do the lesson can be learnt and the pattern no longer needs to recycle. Bingo you are free. My life’s work is to free myself of all negativity – it is an inside job.

Shivalingus

P.S. try tapping on your chest as you reread this and acknowledge that it really pisses you off, that I really piss you off. I know I do – and you know what the trigger will continue to appear in your life until you accept it instead of fighting it.

P.P.S try changing your gravatar to something uplifting (just for a month) and see what happens miraculously in your life – my guess is you are too entrenched in the fight against ‘me’ or whoever it is that you won’t do it.

wbstreck
wbstreck

darylluke – 10/09 @ 10:52pm

dittto on that. We need to get these Bankster People off this planet and send them to their reserved places in hell, and, these peacenik jerks can sure as hell go with them.
The whole world needs to go on RESET. We are now on TILT.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

Bush and his various co-conspirators are mostly FABIAN SOCIALISTS. Below is a quote from their feelings about everybody who actually works as opposed to those that manipulate money.

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http://newage.insights2.org/Depopulation1.html

THE FABIAN SOCIETY

In one of his Fabian Essays [The Fabian Society], entitled Economic, George Bernard Shaw wrote the following in 1889, “All economic analyses begin with the cultivation of the Earth. To the mind’s eye of the astronomer the Earth is a ball spinning in space without ulterior motives. To the bodily eye of the primitive cultivator it is a vast green plain, from which, by sticking a spade into it, wheat and other edible matters can be made to spring.” Shaw continues, “It was the increase of population that spread cultivation and civilization from the center to the snow line, and at last forced men to sell themselves to the lords of the soil: it is the same force that continues to multiply men so that their exchange value fails slowly and surely until it disappears altogether – until even black chattel slaves are released as not worth keeping in a land where men of all colors are to be had for nothing. This is the condition of our English laborers today: they are no longer even dirt cheap; they are valueless, and can be had for nothing.”

On overpopulation Shaw writes, “The introduction of the capitalistic system is a sign that the exploitation of the laborer toiling for a bare subsistence wage has become one of the chief arts of life among the holders of tenant rights. It also produces a delusive promise of endless employment which blinds the proletariat to those disastrous consequences of rapid multiplication which are obvious to the small cultivator and peasant proprietor. But indeed the more you degrade the workers, robbing them of all artistic enjoyment, and all chance of respect and admiration from their fellows, the more you throw them back, reckless, on the one pleasure and the one human tie left to them- -the gratification of their instinct for producing fresh supplies of men. You will applaud this instinct as divine until at last the excessive supply becomes a nuisance: there comes a plague of men; and you suddenly discover that the instinct is diabolic, and set up a cry of ‘over population’. But your slaves are beyond caring for your cries: they breed like rabbits; and their poverty breeds filth, ugliness, dishonesty, disease, obscenity, drunkenness, and murder. In the midst of the riches which their labour piles up for you, their misery rises up too and stifles you. You withdraw in disgust to the other end of the town from them; you appoint special carriages on your railways and special seats in your churches and theaters for them; you set your life apart from theirs by every class barrier you can devise; and yet they swarm about you still: your face gets stamped with your habitual loathing and suspicion of them: your ears get so filled with the language of the vilest of them that you break into it when you lose your self-control: they poison your life as remorselessly as you have sacrificed theirs heartlessly. You begin to believe intensely in the devil. Then comes the terror of their revolting; the drilling and arming of bodies of them to keep down the rest; the prison, the hospital, paroxysms of frantic coercion, followed by paroxysms of frantic charity. And in the meantime, the population continues to increase!”

MORE AT SITE

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

This website is quite interesting. The ground that it covers is not new, but there are bits of information that may be helpful.

NAI2010
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http://newage.insights2.org/Depopulation1.html

Thinning Out The “Useless Eaters”

An Unspoken NWO Agenda

Part I: Historical Perspective
Part II: What you can’t see will hurt you!
Part III: No easy Answers!
Part IV: A Picture Emerges
Part V: U.N. Rings the Alarm
Part VI: The Final Chapter

A Report by RICK MARTIN

Part I: Historical Perspective
11/19/95

Many writers have spoken of intentional plans by certain Elite to thin-out the world’s population; it’s a recurring theme among so-called conspiracy theorists. There are frequent references to “useless eaters”, which includes the bulk of mankind. Most, when hearing of plots to depopulate the planet, simply say under their breath, “Yeah, right,” or more often, while shaking their head, “You’re nuts.” But when there is a careful examination of writings by prominent authors of this century, pieces of the puzzle certainly do fall into place – pieces which support the contention that there are certain individuals, if not entire governments, who have implemented a program of global genocide in an effort to salvage and corner “resources”.

What you will be reading in this series on Depopulation Of A Planet are selected writings from a wide cross-section of viewpoints and political leanings. I will be using “their” own documents, their own words, to weave a fabric which, in the end, will be a tapestry of undeniable clarity for those with eyes to see.

Without the historical foundation upon which to base understanding, writing about current efforts at depopulation, through the use of viruses and microorganisms, would have far less significance. So please stay with it as you read and it will come together. I realize that some of this initial material may seem dry, but it is important for a broader understanding of this critical and timely issue.

THOMAS MALTHUS

Thomas Robert Malthus was a parson of the English State Church and an economist who lived from 1766-1834. He is best known for his writing An Essay On The Principle Of Population, published in 1798. His main idea is that populations increase more rapidly than food supplies. So, he claimed, there would always be more people in the world than can be fed, and wars and disease will be necessary to kill off the extra population.

Malthus did not claim to be the originator of this idea, although it has come to be known as the “Malthusian Theory”. Malthus based his argument on the works of Condorcet, David Hume, Adam Smith, Defoe, Sir James Steuart, Townsend, Franklin, and others.

Malthus’ Essay suggested to Charles Darwin the relationship between progress and the survival of the fittest. This was the basic idea in Darwin’s theory of evolution.

MORE ON WEB SITE

darylluke
darylluke

shiva:
Your idealogies are part of the problem.

GOD save me from your followers!

Love evil? 100% insanity.

positivechange
positivechange

Comment by phxvalleygirl on October 9, 2011 @ 8:03 pm

Lyndon Larouche can explain some of it better….

Part 1/2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FANiys8PStY

These programs have been planned since the 60’s. It’s all there but will require a push.

shivalingus
shivalingus

“Daryl,your correct, evil must be destroyed and will at some point.”

Correct? Hardly

Destroying is the old paradigm – destruction wreaks destruction. “Evil” is our greatest ally – it is what makes us grow. It needs to be accepted and ultimately loved (which is way easier once you realize it is our rocket-fuel for evolution) – add love to evil and it melts, it transmutes. There is no destruction involved.

We are entering the times of the prodigal son – where the errant ones return to the fold. Those who can not forgive are ultimately attacking a part of themselves. Part of me will take great pleasure in seeing Bush and Blair behind bars (if that should happen). What of Obama? What if he was coerced and threatened? How would you respond when confronted with ‘the conversation’ – “Do as we tell you or else….and if you do we will pay you handsomely” – How many on this blog would die or allow their family to die in such circumstances.

It would be convenient if everything was black and white, but it never is, was or will be. The ‘Evil ones’ have contracted to do their worst so that we might finally be bold enough to say ‘no’. They will wreak the karma of their actions for aeons to come – I let creator work out the karma – I sure do not want to be involved in it. Justice is catching up fast with these people and it must not involve lynching. I welcome due and proper punishment – not the death penalty, which most Americans are still (apparently) in support of.

Those who are truly penitent (and publicly so) will be rightfully welcomed back into the fold. All this revenge and destruction is part of the problem. The time of the prodigal sons will be humanty’s finest hour.

Forgiveness and acceptance and then love is the answer – whatever the question.

jtgun2
jtgun2

Positivechange,6;57,current system like a silent fart.lllllllllllllloooooooooooooollllllllllll.

jtgun2
jtgun2

It is possible there will be a jubilee,what will come afterwards will be the tricky part.

jtgun2
jtgun2

Does an e.t. speak the english language?I figured it would be like mork and mindy.nanoo-nanoo,hope thats spelled right.lol

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Comment by XL on October 9, 2011 @ 10:44 am

i’m personally not sure whether concentrating on who shouldn’t make any money on various issues is the right way to go at the moment. it would be more important to get money to the people, jobs and a new design for society.

once the debt system goes to a credit system things will change automatically. those who hang on to their old ways and power positions will do just that. they will take down many institutions due to poor leadership. let them go.

the current system is like a silent fart. everyone knows it’s there, you can smell it, but you can’t see it and you don’t know exactly who it was. just let in fresh air and we can get along with more important stuff.
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Great post. Would you elaborate on the “once the debt system goes to a credit system”.

What will happen with those STRAWMAN bond accounts for each human in our land? They have used us as collateral…but we are the ones who are the creditors and not the debtors. But few have accessed this presently. Are you saying that this will occur as a result of the change and GS?

I was thinking that we’d move into a new system altogether, with a Jubilee and debt cancellation.

Just wondering…

jtgun2
jtgun2

Daryl,your correct, evil must be destroyed and will at some point.Trick is not to be decieved and unknowingly help evil prosper and grow.Why does evil run rampant now?Because so many good people have been deceived into thinking they are doing for good when the reality is their feeding bad.Millions going to church today, that ole offering plate comes around,millions of fed notes will be given today and this is just one sunday,huge percentage of this intake will be used for dirty deeds.If churches were valid to help we would never be in the shape we are in.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ darylluke: My 15 yr. contract freelance job just ended also a couple of days ago. It seems like this is a period of ENDINGS and also new BEGINNINGS. I anticipate the new beginnings and release from the old season. I pray your future is bright.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by sierra on October 9, 2011 @ 12:53 pm

Thanks for the link to the Kavassilas interview.
I’m not a subscriber.
Did you listen tot he 2nd part?
If so, was it good as I might subscribe to access it.

jtgun2
jtgun2

Braveheart,back when i was ridin t&p hard you told me i better back off these people were dangerous.I said i could care less who they were.Now you speak with them.Whats upppppppppppp.

vlastimil
vlastimil

My heart has always been in Hawai’i. Never been there, yet.

My teacher was the first hoale’ kahuna.

Thank you all, for all the kind words & thoughts.

But, my resolve has not changed and never will.
[EVIL MUST BE DESTROYED.]

DARYLLUKE

If kanuha were your teacher then you know what to do. In case you want to destroy physically EVIL, then I have a bad news for you. YOU MUST START WITH YOURSELF, MEANING DESTROY EVIL IN YOURSELF BY KILLING PHYSICALLY YOURSELF. But since you know the art kanuha you now how to extinq

positivechange
positivechange

Comment by XL on October 9, 2011 @ 10:44 am

i’m personally not sure whether concentrating on who shouldn’t make any money on various issues is the right way to go at the moment. it would be more important to get money to the people, jobs and a new design for society.

once the debt system goes to a credit system things will change automatically. those who hang on to their old ways and power positions will do just that. they will take down many institutions due to poor leadership. let them go.

the current system is like a silent fart. everyone knows it’s there, you can smell it, but you can’t see it and you don’t know exactly who it was. just let in fresh air and we can get along with more important stuff.

whatelse
whatelse

The “Dinar Hype” is only USA phenomena.

I speak nine languages fluently and I haven’t seen any forums in other languages on dinar. If I am wrong please give me links to intelligent non-US forums where dinar is intensively discussed.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re: Calebbrennan, October 9, @ 10:02 am

Just loved it Cal. Now your getting the “Swang of things”.

LOL

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re: XL, October 9, @ 8:00 am

>”That would be a great expose’ if we could get irrefutable proof of this… I do remember hearing about that, but it would be nice if there was evidence we could show around.”

Absolutely! I have listed to keep an eye out while ravaging through my documents in reference to human duplicates and “Robotoid Watch” communications. I was part of these groups, but at that time, also, I didn’t have the funds to go lolly-gating about the world at large searching and documenting, Robotoids & Syntitics. We did have rich friends who took advantage of the situation, at that time, during the late 70s. However, I was very lucky to be in the right place at the right time to experience a contact with one of these incredible Robotoid creatures. I personally, have no photographs of this event. Wish I did. There were others with me at that time, who might have taken photographs of this contact. We were all forceably scatted about after this, each going our own way. Shortly thereafter, I was removed from all air-time for my radio program. So, I moved to Prince Of Wales Island, Alaska, spending 20 years in seclusion.

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XL

this short clip certainly doesn’t look like their in control, hence msm having pulled out all the stops as far as being credible news reporting. I’d say this is a clear indicator that the owners of the msm are wetting their pants at the idea of Ron Paul owning this race despite their level best efforts to shut him down. -outrageously rude they are to this man to his face. He’s obviously the man to beat and to beat down. have you seen this?

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/08/jon-stewart-ron-paul/41311/

Now this:

Here are the results of the straw poll:

Ron Paul – 37 percent

Herman Cain – 23 percent

darylluke
darylluke

My heart has always been in Hawai’i. Never been there, yet.

My teacher was the first hoale’ kahuna.

Thank you all, for all the kind words & thoughts.

But, my resolve has not changed and never will.
[EVIL MUST BE DESTROYED.]

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@ Sierra

Hi sierra,

i watched the video link you pasted abt false flag alien attack and author’s background.

It seems that several or more on this blog are onboard with that type of thing.

you know we think we’re ‘way out there’ so to speak and then we see stuff like this. Its just so wild.

do we know anything abt. what is behind the cattle mutilations?

i don’t very much relate to the alien stuff, i suppose because it seems so intangible to me and im like what can you do with that kind of info. anyway?

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here on October 9, 2011 @ 1:39 pm
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I’ve been experiencing the same as I conveyed to my grandnephew today that I’m beginning to forget what I’ve done just seconds ago. I believe it’s from no longer feeling a need to stress out on what’s going on, so what’s there to remember. Live and let live seems to fit the bill.

When there is no need to, and you kick back, it’s so easy to forget what you just did. A need puts you on top of everything. I use to have to burn the candle in three different places, because people needed this or that, but not anymore, so I’m beginning to get complacent and sometimes fall asleep at this laptop, like now.

Viewing the comments will have to wait, I want to go to bed.

With e aloha malama pono to our future,

The phrase is “if you don’t have something constructive to say, then don’t say anything.” Is that correct here, is that happening here? Just heard this on Cooking Channel, Bitchin Kitchen”

slogg
slogg

Daryl… i don’t quite know what to say… i feel you pain. Thank you for expressing what you are going through in such an open manner. If nothing else, it may serve to open the eyes of some others still hardened to the plight of the ones among us being swallowed up… may it embolden our resolve to throw off this dark evil and hasten its demise.

Stay strong, do no harm. I, and i am certain many others here are sending out intentions of protection, comfort and prosperity for you. Blessings.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

On board at Comment by darylluke on October 9, 2011 @ 3:41 pm
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Checked out a rental today. Deciding to pass for more space. The location was ideal, but not the dwelling.

Be back after viewing posts today.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re; Anonymous, October 9, @ 3:34 am

Yes, normal doubles are used most of the time. However, they too do not last long, usually spirited away and killed later.

Robotoid duplicates are mainly used in emergency situations where a double is needed right away to prevent mass hysteria, for instance, out-right public execution, where the body is immediately taken to a hospital where a secret room is used to make the transfer, then the new appearance with a cover story of being saved by the doctor or what-ever. This is my understanding.

darylluke
darylluke

Getting shit-canned from my 26 year long employer sure does change a persons perspective of the world.

Now I know what that silent-minority has felt for the last 3+ years!

THAT is my lesson in all of this.

GOD sure has a mean sense of humor,eh?

Ain’t no easy way to learn that lesson, though.
(Feeling compassionate about all “those people” as I went to a $25/hr. job every day….just ain’t the same at all…)

darylluke
darylluke
Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by ugmmichael on October 9, 2011 @ 3:07 pm

Ya, but michael, we closed the Wingmaker sites to keep their ships from landing here and invading Earth.

And we turned on the ‘mirrors in the sky’ so all their nasty intentions get reflected back at them. Oooops.

So please do tell us what they plan to do next.

Braveheart

Braveheart
Braveheart

Here is what I see in this moment:

Everybody talked about the Global Settlements, including the Dragons…
But nobody did anything.
They hemmed and hawed a lot.
And talked about negotiating with the bad guys (ya, that’ll work)
But still, nobody did anything.

Then Tman came along, a talented guy in many respects; maybe even a hero for our time. Ya, he was crass, suspicious and not long on patience. Okay, he was bombastic and dogmatic…often erroneously so. ((shrugs)) He is a Marine after all. And Intelligence to boot. Not exactly the cuddly type.

He was working for someone who said: Git ‘er done! (I think that person was Al Hodges who had a vested interest…but it is just my assumption). So he went off to do the impossible.

From where I’m sitting, it looks to me like he is the *ONLY* one that did anything. Because SOMETHING/SOMEONE is forcing the Global Settlements through and with them a whole lot of RVs.

And helping it happen are all those Dinarians out there on all those Dinarian sites encouraging the Birth Mother to Push out the beginning of a new world. And they’ve got LOTS of energy. (Okie ended up in the hospital last night for exhaustion)

Okay. I love Ben. I know he would never knowingly give out false info. I also know he has had to correct many, many times things he has been told. I think and hope this will be one of those times. Tman, don’t disappoint us now!

Just my opinion in the moment,
Braveheart

darylluke
darylluke

I look at like this.

I spent $37.00 to buy a single 25,000 Iraq dinar note.I would have spent as much in a month on lottery tickets.Now,this is my lottery ticket.Money that would have been lost,surely on lottery.But,this dinar thing looked like WAY better odds that 40,000,000:1, you know?

But, now Benjamin comes along, and it seems ALL hope is lost.

What these guys seem to be referring to at this dinarguru website is a nesara implementation, though I have not seen that term used.and, nesara implementation is what WDS should be backing.

Could it be Benjamin is blowing smoke up our u know where?What would be his motivation? To keep us poor? (makes no sense, unless I am completely missing something here…)The solutions I provided above are viable.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

WANDERER OF THE SKIES

Greetings from the Federation:

Much is happening on your world these days. You can see the protests occurring all over as you are awakening to the energy of love. There is much going on in your world behind the scenes as well. We have great news to share with you as we keep you forever in our thoughts and send you our love in these trying days leading to Disclosure.

The underground bases, of which we have spoken in the past which harbor those factions of the Illuminati who have created the most resistance to these changes, have indeed been destroyed with no loss of life we have been able to detect. A clear message has been sent to some of the last hold outs to the agreements already in place for the surrender of the Illuminati and their capitulation in your affairs. Other sources have begun to report on these events and the Illuminati needs no confirmation of what has occurred. That message, as we have been able to monitor through the emotions and thoughts of those it affected, has been received quite forcefully. They are now aware there is no alternative and this is their end.

As more and more of the minions of those groups turn away from them in these last hours, the momentum towards a free world gains speed and power. You will see more of this in the coming days as well. Indeed, we have already indicated to you previously that several key media heads have made their deals to open access to the truth and you now see more accurate reporting on what is going on in your world. More importantly, you are now seeing information get to you that would never have been discussed previously.

Your leaders have indeed put Disclosure on the “front burners” of their agenda and it is presently a priority for many nations. There is a great silence in the halls of power across the world as those who are awaiting the orders to begin the disclosure process hold their collective breath. Many levels of government are involved in this process and there is a great sense among many nations that now the time has come. This is a good thing. It prepares the way for those who must make this decision to actually know that what they are doing is the right thing, the true thing, and ultimately, the most important thing they will ever do for the human race. It is time. Those who have waffled on this decision for so long are now well aware of the consequences of making disclosure occur and the need now, more than ever, to make it happen. We await here, excitedly, for the process to begin. We have monitored the thoughts of all your leaders and there is a great consensus that the time has arrived.

We have, in response, stepped up our appearance in your skies as more and more people see our ships and cannot explain them in prosaic terms. We will continue this at an even greater level, with closer contact and more frequent revelations across your globe. In fact, for those who statistically keep records of these sightings, the numbers will rise exponentially. Keep your eyes to the heavens as we prepare to dazzle you with our ships, a prelude to our coming in Peace and Love.

Be at peace.

mbridges
mbridges
lew3
lew3

Caleb, my guess is that Ben heard about Tman recently. However, Ben may not know if his contact is up to date re: Tman’s status.

darylluke
darylluke

Braveheart,
why do you say that?

After what Benjamin stated to XL(and to us here)pretty much busted my bubble.But, I posted alternative scenarios that could be implemented.Yet, it seems hopeless.Because he seemed pretty adament….

Braveheart
Braveheart

Comment by darylluke on October 9, 2011 @ 1:11 pm

Don’t worry. We are going to have an RV, Daryl.

Just hang in and hang on. And don’t let anybody tell you otherwise!

Braveheart

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Lew,
Assuming it is old info sounds like a stretch.

Bending over backwards to vindicate.

Why don’t we ask Ben if he’s posting info from years ago as if it was current?

gillfinn
gillfinn

A lot of soap and water, a good scrubbing, and WASHington takes on a whole new look.

Time to hit the rack. Good night everyone, sweet dreams and say “hello” to the sandman!
g out

hutz the Vandalia Solution and World news click here

Xl I have enjoyed your many postings today …thanks allot brother.

things are going to speed up .people are awakening all over the world ….that was some protest in Israel 500,000 WOW!
bigger than Woodstock. lol

I am so happy it is all finally going down I am even sleeping better.

peacerus said that she really likes you XL

just passing it on

goodnight all
peace on earth
peace in our hearts

lew3
lew3

Comment by calebbrennan on October 9, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

Here is what I was referring to:

“My view from the writings of the White Hats is that they represent a legitimate and powerful branch of the opposition to the cabal.”

Ben went on to say,

“My specific intelligence about problems with the “white hats,” is in reference to the individual calling himself Mr. “T” who I am told is a CIA operative working for Bush.”

As I posted above, Tman said that he used to work for the cabal. Ben’s source may have old info.

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calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Lew
“Caleb, in Ben’s email he says that his opinion of the WH’s is from their writings ”

This sounds like conjecture on your part, I did not see anything in Ben’s email that said his knowledge of white hats came from the on line reports.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

He may be referring to other legitimate sources calling themselves white hats and other legal documentation that has nothing to do with T & P. In fact that is what he implies.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and Ya’All
The Fed Reserve is odious debt-toxic criminal debt and it runs with it’s creator-manufacturers ,The Rothschilds Banking Cartel. We tie this millstone onto their necks and toss it all into their toxic sea of a Quadtrillion dollars of derrivative indebtedness.Their Hell, after all , they created it. They need to toss the rest of their wealth into it, to survive their come uppins.
No way Dennis; it doen.t belong to us !
Dennis Kuchinich Introduces Key Bill to Nationalize the Fed Reserve

includes video

http://www.infowars.com/dennis-kucinich-tells-occupy-wall-street-to-nationalize-the-federal-reserve/

gillfinn
gillfinn

Krap into gold!

darylluke
darylluke

ALL the big investors like Donald trump who bought $3M worth of dinars should be forced by the White Dragon Society to create numbers of jobs in proportion to the profits they reap by a Re-Valuation!

This is enfuriating to me! (Benjamin saying the RV will not go through at a purported 5.75 RV!!)Once AGAIN, the common man gets punished as a consequence of cabal activities!KRAP! THAT IS WHAT IT IS! KRAP ON THE LITTLE GUY!

darylluke
darylluke

That currency has 7 different security safeguards.

Probably the most NON-counterfeitable currency on the globe!

The serial numbers for all the ones the cabal owns should not be too hard for the Pentagon to gleen.

Then, when they appear, they are simply NOT converted/honored.Whoever presents them is arrested.

darylluke
darylluke

If all the dinars Bush & company stole get frozen, then all the rest of the holders can reap the rewards of an RV.

Some of the big investors could create JOBS.

People here need jobs.I believe the true unemployment number in the US is like 27%+.Three things EVERYONE needs: shoes, pants, underpants.3 factories producing each of these are guaranteed to succeed.Pay a good wage with quarterly profit-sharing.EASY.

sierra
sierra

George Kavassilas – The Pending Global Mind Control Event

October 6, 2011
The journey began for George around the age of five. He has memories of being taken from his bed at night onto ships, and being taken to other places on the planet and to other worlds. In 1998 George was diagnosed with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. It was during this time that he hit rock bottom due to many years of experiencing abductions by malevolent beings. Today, George shares his experiences and knowledge across the planet. He joins Red Ice to talk about his revelation of a pending global mind control event, the creation of a new perception. 911 was a small example of a global mind control event and many are waking up to the tactics which were used. We’ll talk about the new tricks and tactics that may be on the horizon next. Then, George talks about the current “big squeeze” as the matrix is clamping down harder. He says another major event is coming to funnel humanity into a specific direction. George also tells us about entities coming to harvest humanity. These beings may use advanced technology to create light bodies to appear angelic and even manifest heaven like constructs but it will all be synthetic. Later, we talk about frequency matches and holding your center. We end talking about harmony in humanity’s past.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/10/RIR-111006.php

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Sierra

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gillfinn
gillfinn

Comment by calebbrennan on October 9, 2011 @ 10:02 am

Caleb, I would go in a heartbeat and I’ll bet in the not too distant future the two worlds will just be an amazing “swangland” for everyone to visit or live.

Have you read it yet? He refers to the son as a “he” too, it’s a wild story.
g

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The point is that forced socialism is worse than robbery because at least the robber has a work ethic. the socialist gets others (govt employees)to do their dirty work. Shielding themselves from the honesty of what they themselves actually doing. Robbery by proxy is worse than robbery.

XL

Re: Comment by darylluke on October 9, 2011 @ 12:05 pm
>So, according to Benjamin, it is only marginally possible, that Bush & company
>funds get frozen, so that the little guys can get their dinars redeemed.
>Seems like Benjamin is stating it is more likely NOBODY is going to make ANY
>profits from dinars.Also, implying THAT is the scam.That the dinars are being
>sold as if guaranteed to RV at much, much higher levels.

I’m not sure on that… There is sooooo much movement in the financial areas right now with the RVs (all 150 countries) that I think “something” is going to go down regardless. Might it be possible they are waiting for the collapse of the current system to do the reboot and start over? Hard to tell, but I do get the feeling that we will not have to wait too much longer before big things happen.

>My thinking is, why not have this currency as a mechanism to allow COMMON
>people to prosper? (Prosperity-mechanism, JUBILLEE???)

So true… This infusion of cash could really be the start of something big at the humanitarian level. I’ve heard sooooooooooo many stories from people about their plans, and an awful lot of them involve helping other people. IMHO, it would be in everyones best interest to let this go through and get that money into the hands of the people.

Edge
Edge

Thanks XL –Great job, well done–now we know–
The controversy is a separate issue—
Edge—

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caleb

you were presented with a question. not an a b choice.

What is a worse crime?

this or that? if you dont understand that i cant help you. sorry

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caleb

i agree with you on the hegellian dialectic trick. This is about whether or not socialism is evil or not. i will have to repost next week to get it posted. server is rejecting post attemps as duplicate, however they never actually were posted. NUTS! Waste of time!