Major confrontations in South China Sea as desperate cabal tries to steal Asian gold deposits

Reports from Philippino tribes-people and the White Dragon Society members indicate a major military stand-off is taking place in the South China Sea and the Philippines over control of historical gold deposits in the region. A fleet of 8 US war-ships is being confronted by a joint Chinese/Russian fleet in the region. The Chinese have publicly announced they are willing to go to war over this dispute. The US warships are linked to a mysterious Hong Kong based individual by the name of “Rosenberg” (first name not known), the CIA sources say. Rosenberg is believed to be seeking physical gold to seize on behalf of the Nazi/Sabbatean cabalist owners of the Federal Reserve Board, these sources say. In the Chinese government and Western corporate propaganda news this dispute is described as being a Chinese Philippine dispute over an area, blocked out on Google Earth, known as the Scarborough Shoal by the West and the Huangyan Islands by China.

This dispute is linked to the failed IMF and World Bank meetings that took place in Washington D.C. last week. It is also linked to an ongoing power struggle between the three factions in China, multiple sources say.

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d2hn0540
d2hn0540

1st

edwin
edwin

2nd

harondaddy
harondaddy

Here is a catalog of DRAKE audio intelligence reports. Drake is a Pentagon spokesperson that talks about the coming mass arrests of political, financial, corporate, and military criminals.

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2012/04/drake-intel-audio-briefings-insider.html

mbridges
mbridges

4th Judy

damjan
damjan

yes,yes,yes…

petet
petet

Thanks Ben. Wednesday is the end of the deadline for the feds.
Looks to me like their still kicking and screaming.
Second shot will sink the boat, so to speak.
They will have no choice but to have the light shine all over them.
Then my friend… It’s time out.
Cheers to you my friend!

darylluke
darylluke

7th!

goupil
goupil

I think comments order should be reversed…
We had a US controled french election yesterday: it seems that the Colorado based “Level 3 Communication” may have change the results, as they are hosting the Ministère de l’Intérieur’s Intranet. French source here: http://liesidotorg.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/rien-ne-va-plus-les-jeux-sont-faits/

kenlau
kenlau

8th

petet
petet

Thanks harondaddy.

munchkin
munchkin

wow Ben is early

Thanks
Ben

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

11th for once! If Judy hadn’t mentioned, I’d still be over there blogging, lol

edwin
edwin

thank you for the great link harondaddy 🙂

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ Lew3, I answered your question about the Oil of Oregano on last weeks blog. FYI.

21stcenturyconcepts
21stcenturyconcepts

Thanks Ben! Keep up the great journalism…so few of it out there these days.

dlatbf
dlatbf

Thanks Ben

mbridges
mbridges

http://www.shtfplan.com/gerald-celente/all-aboard-the-auschwitz-express-people-dont-want-to-believe-it_04172012

All Aboard the Auschwitz Express: “People Don’t Want to Believe It”
Mac Slavo
April 17th, 2012

Celente opines:

Here’s the scenario – the crash of ’29, the Great Depression, currency wars, trade wars, World War II.

The panic of ’08, the Great Recession/Depression, we have currency wars going on now, trade wars next.

There’s no saving the financial system. You saw the employment numbers that came out last week – they were twice as bad as what they had projected on Wall Street. You’re seeing what’s going on in Europe – the Spanish are again calling for more austerity measures because they can’t get out of the mess.

So, there’s no way out.

The only way out for psychopaths is war.
_____________________________________________________

Judy

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo

15th

Thank you for those new update Ben !!!
DIE Kabal he he he.
————————————————-
FRENCH FIRST ROUND POLLS RESULT:

François Hollande (28,63%) Left
Nicolas Sarkozy (27,08%) Right
Marine Le Pen (18,01%) Nationalist (Far-Right)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon (11,13%) Communist (Far-Left)
François Bayrou (9,11%) Centrist
Eva Joly (2,28%) Environmentalist (Left)
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (1,80%) Sovereignist (Right)
Philippe Poutou (1,15%) Anti-Capitalist (Far-Left)
Nathalie Arthaud (0,57%) Communist (Far-Left)
Jacques Cheminade (0,25%) Without Label but can be considered as Moderate-Left, the atypical candidate of the these polls.
(He want to colonize Mars !!!)
————-
Personal Opinion: Nearly all are Kabal/Zionist controlled (expect LE-PEN who she is the less Zionist/System controlled… See Alain Soral interview to understand this (In French Sorry…))

Next Polls the 6 May 2012.
SRM.

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo
calebbrennan
calebbrennan

2.0

jpm9909
jpm9909

More and more in plain sight… interesting time indeed

jubba
jubba

21
Thanks Ben!

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes

wouldn’t it be great if they find the gold and then sink in the middle of the ocean with it?

How retarded is the concept of gold anyway? Here it is sitting in caves unaccounted for for 70 years (and hundreds if not thousands of years in other neat hiding places…) and whatever country parks it in a building suddenly holds power?

Does anyone else question how ludicrous this is?

There is only so much gold necessary to hang around rappers necks and fill their teeth…

I guess they use it in manufacturing too… Or is it the aliens who need it to save the atmosphere on their planet? If so… Take it to people’s court…

Judge Joe Brown the litigant Nephilim is suing Shecky Goldsmith of the first bank of Lost Caves somewhere in the Phillipines to return 18 zeroes worth of gold…

Shecky’s countersuit is that the Nephilim fee fi fo fummed the blood of an english mun… which is yiddish for ate his cousin…

Judge Joe: Nephilim I have read your complaint and can you tell me in your own words why you feel this gold belongs to you?

Nephilim: Well your honor it dates back thousands of years when our planet’s ozone was destroyed by cow farts…

Shecky: There he goes with the cow fart defense again your honor, how can we inventory cow farts billions of light years away… ?

Judge Joe: I tell you what I have heard enough… rather than have a bullshit worldwar over bullshit metal hidden in caves what do you say we Fee fi fo fum us up some englishmen with my special BBQ sauce and get us some floosies and beer and cognac and cokes?

Nephilim: Yeah sure what the fuck…

Shecky: You want that I should break bread with a 12 foot antisemite?

Nephilim: I would like to introduce my character witness Mel Gibson…

Judge Joe. Mr. Gibson you care to stand and testify?

Mel: The Fuckin’ Jew is up to no good your honor…

Shecky: You hear this your honor, you see the irrational hatred here?

Dreamlander

At last first time within 25

jtriplat
jtriplat

there are more important things than being 1st or 20th on this blog. please give them your loving attention

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE is my new #1 hero(per tonights interview)!! 🙂

Benjamin is now #2 hero….~darylluke.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by jtriplat on April 23, 2012 @ 5:31 pm

I really wouldn’t lose any sleep over them having a little fun at the start. It’s done in harmless fun.

You can start to lose a little sleep, when you come here and you see the people going 1,974, 1,986.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

On board at 26 comments ending with Comment by marhuff55 on April 23, 2012 @ 5:38 pm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Back from trip to the youngest and biggest island, Hawai’i. Long post by Ben, will check it out.

Malama pono,

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Wanda

you are not real.I have no proof of you as an individual/

What is your real name?

You contradict yourself almost everyday

/Symbols, in and of themselves, cannot be evil.
Comment by slogg on April 23, 2012 @ 7:51 am

I don’t believe you, because you state the opposite opinion regarding symbols within the same day!

You don’t like a particular website because of the symbols and and then contradict yourself.

I see you as a very frustrated individual.

You cannot respond to my post about ET and cloning cuz you have no rebuttal.

You just hurl shit like you know something

Your new diatribe is that aliens and clones don’t exist if they don’t land on your front lawn.

How very provincial of you

read history and see beyond your mind programming.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Thanks Bhodi for this

oh… not “aliens”… demons…. right…

Well all things being equal and balanced yes.. there would be demons..still just math..
However, It is not mathematically sound to say that All other life forms are demons.

I’m beginning to think that you are so frightened that you are only able to see the things that frighten you… again.


I dislike this word “alien” btw.. they are ET’s or off-worlders or extra dimensional…we are the new kids on the scene.. the others were here long before us..
Comment by bodhi on April 23, 2012 @ 11:17 am

libertyjune
libertyjune

Thank you Ben. I truly believe that the conflict in the Philippine Islands definitely has something to do with the gold the cabals are after.
When will they ever stop at going after what is not theirs? The world’s wealth belongs to the people of the planet as God had planned since the beginning of time.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Whatever your belief, the universe will support and validate that belief by attracting the circumstances, situations, opportunities and people into your life that will reinforce that “version” of reality.
There is no reality, except for the reality you define (according to your beliefs).
Comment by accuchip on April 23, 2012 @ 1:20 pm

____
right on brother,

stevew
stevew

Get Ready Peoples !

jubba
jubba

darylluke 5.32
Do you have a link to the most recent DRAKE interview, please?
Many thanks in advance…

darylluke
darylluke
jubba
jubba

darylluke 6.17
Brilliant, many thanks : )

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

37

it’s fun because Ben never posts at the same time.

just fun 🙂

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE: Rothschilds are giving up 99% of ALL their wealth! 🙂

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE: ALL mortgages will be forgiven, ALL foreclosed homes will be returned! 🙂

evike
evike

Good morning everybody,

http://myonesource.com/2012-what-do-you-mean-the-3rd-dimension-is-going-away-2

You are here: Home / Spirituality / 2012 – What Do You Mean the 3rd Dimension Is Going Away?
2012 – What Do You Mean the 3rd Dimension Is Going Away?

In simple terms, the habit of thinking and feeling and behaving that we know of as the third dimension is going away. Everyone is shifting into a fourth dimensional consciousness and experience, and then into a fifth dimensional consciousness and experience.

However, most people on the planet are not prepared for this Shift. But it is happening nonetheless, and for those who are unaware of what’s going on it will not be an easy or comfortable experience.

Yet this can be a wonderful, enjoyable time as well. With some basic information about what the Shift is, and what “dimensions” are, and with simple tools to help manage our thoughts and feelings, everyone has the ability to evolve their consciousness and move gracefully and joyfully into these higher vibrational realms.

If you don’t know what dimensions are, you are not alone. Most people playing the game of life as we know it in the third dimension are playing without a “rule book” that would explain what the game really is and how one can play it successfully.

This article provides these basic, missing rules. It explains what the third, fourth, and fifth dimensions are, and why they are the most important consideration of your life right now.

More on site with a 20 minutes video

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Comment by phxvalleygirl on April 23, 2012 @ 7:06 am to caleb

You’ve made it clear from recent posts that you’re the drone and get your marching orders from the alpha/leader,
_____________

PHX Its all about intention I’m not sure where you get you marching orders from but they are not real, you contradict yourself just like Wanda/

This is not a Gender argument,

Thus

I am the alpha and omega and so are you?

Be

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE: Asset based currency will replace the debt-based currency! 🙂
(USA owes 1.4Trillion, not the amounts all over the place.)

DRAKE: Individual will become their own creditor via birth certificate! 🙂

DRAKE: Most all federal gubermint will disappear! 🙂

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE: 24/7 voting on all new issues, as Constitutional government is put in place, executive orders and acts rescinded! 🙂

Dreamlander

We should all thank harondaddy comment on April 23, 2012 @ 3:18 pm
Files in ‘Drake – Audio Intel’
4 – David Wilcock Interviews Drake -Mass Arrests of the Illuminati- DivineCosmos – 3-28-12.mp3
80.68 MB
1 – freedom reigns – drake – 3-14-12.mp3
72.67 MB
2 – freedom reigns – drake – 3-17-12 – drake address to troops.mp3
41.00 MB
5 – freedom reigns – drake – 3-29-12 – edited.mp3
11.24 MB
6 – imminent mass arrests updated q&a – drake – 4-1-12.mp3
55.65 MB
3 – freedom reigns – drake – 3-21-12 – edited.mp3
77.63 MB
8 – freedomreigns – 4-8-12 – drake – edited – arrest timeline and iraqi dinar revaluation.mp3
9.30 MB
9 – freedomreigns – 4-8-12 – drake & terry – edited – america’s history not told.mp3
48.28 MB
7 – freedomreigns – 4-5-12 – drake – edited.mp3
14.27 MB
10 – wide awake – 4-10-12 – drake & deatra – edited.mp3
38.45 MB
11 – freedomreigns – 4-12-12 – drake & teri & deatra – edited.mp3
76.52 MB
12 – wolf spirit radio – drake & deatra & bill wood on wolf spirit radio – 4-14-2012.mp3
72.95 MB
13 – freedom reigns – 4-15-12 – drake – edited – federal reserve.mp3
3.59 MB
14 – freedom reigns – 4-19-12 – drake – edited – update.mp3
19.35 MB
15 – wolf spirit radio – drake & deatra on wolf spirit radio – 4-22-2012 – edited.mp3
78.57 MB

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE: Once again, states rights will become PRIMARY! 🙂

DRAKE: Bankers are the problem, and they will be held accountable for the debts, NOT the people! 🙂

DRAKE: “Foreign entities” will be removed, and IN PROCESS! 🙂

..

LISTEN TO DRAKE HERE MP3, 3hrs 48mins :

http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/416dfnsz0e/15_wolf_spirit_radio_drake_deatra_on_wolf_spirit_radio_4_22_2012_edited.mp3

~darylluke.

darylluke
darylluke

MOST of these issues DRAKE has covered, have NOT BEEN adressed by Benjamin Fulford and WDS.

ALL we have seen from WDS is delays, delays, more excuses, more delays!! 🙁

~darylluke.

evike
evike

Comment by calebbrennan on April 23, 2012 @ 5:47 pm

You say… “You just hurl shit like you know something”

Hi Caleb, may be this might help you to see the bigger picture.

When people like (her) speed read and perhaps do not absorb the comments of the person she is replying to and answers too quickly, there has to be a question in there somewhere as to how and why.

This is a Dangerously questionable statement to make by …don’t you think Caleb.

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There are some here that don’t post their pictures “but i also have proof of them being who they are…”

it’s not as difficult as the motor vehicle department would have you beLIEve.

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

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I believe she was married to a POLITICIAN and, she paid off her tax bill, yet no one picked up any of the above comments by her.

Distraction is the AGENDA, perhaps her controllers are helping with the answers and watching her performance and, rubbing their hands together whilst she is able to derail the blog.

I know she does like me, and because of the timing of her return back into the cafe, it did not take too long to figure this out.

darylluke
darylluke

DRAKE said about 1hr 45min that something BIG will happen by about mid-week!! (by 4-24-2012?)

***[COULD this be our awaited IRAQI DINAR RV???]

~darylluke.

darylluke
darylluke

MAN!!!

I’m only halfway thru the april 22nd DRAKE interview, and I’m liking this guy more & more! 😉

~darylluke.

evike
evike

Daryll you have mail.

evike
evike

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 6:48 pm

I know she does like me,

That should read “I know she does not like me” but then I don’t have to tell you that. But then she does not like anyone to stand up to her.

darylluke
darylluke

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 7:18 pm

Yes, yes, yes…She is an asshole, no doubt about that! Maybe we can get some others here to agree, I don’t know.

LOTTA people refuse to post anymore here just because of her. I know, because many of them have written to me privately.

But, she is like a butcher standing with a meat-cleaver in hand.

WHO is gonna speak against somebody with a meat-cleaver in hand?
Answer: Not many.~darylluke.

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo

@ darylluke: Who is Drake !?
I know Drake the Scientist (Drake Equation), but who is this guy ?

slogg
slogg

Wimps… and liars. You don’t have good or even intelligent arguments, so you go away and sulk and call names… and beg out for someone to back up your lunacy. What a trio of losers. Caleb, Daryl & Freaky. Three stooges… sitting on the side-lines throwing stones.

slogg
slogg

Thug mentality.

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and Ya’All
The Cabal is out there in the South China Sea, definitely scrounging for some coin to make their ‘payoffs’ to ‘our’-(their) crooked politicians and secret society cronies. China and Russia are ready to take the brick-bat to them, if they dally there too long.
Drake San, has encouraged us with much good news on the White-hats agenda and venue. Where ! ; Oh Where ?- shall we send all these poisonous snakes that have infested our planet with their greed and avarice, and brought countries low, even into states of ruinous disrepair ?
Is the world expectant of The Economic Planning Agency and living the good L.I.F.E. ! Bravo, Bravo , Bravo !

cyser420
cyser420

105F degree heat!

evike
evike

Daryll, John’s cousin was a Chief Inspector before he retired and I just asked him a few questions. No brainer.

Plus before she left, she was well into Phil Schneider,
so what does that tell you. Of course she knows Aliens exists, but she has to pick a topic she can run with.

Some of us have a good memory, and some (namely) has “shit for brains”. It’s about time she got some of her own medicine from those she upset and called names.

Come on, don’t be she people.

darylluke
darylluke

Comment by schubertreijimaigo on April 23, 2012 @ 7:32 pm

He is a spokesman for what is REALLY going on!

One thing is, he explains why there have been all these resignations as shown on american kibuki website. Take the time, listen. This latest one explains an awefully lot of things! He is connected to the Pentagon, because the Pentagon contacted him.We know via Benjamin here that the Pentagon CAN be trusted.

I am in the final hour and he is just chit-chatting like a regular person….WISH someone who has some money would do a REVERSE-SPEECH analysis on this man and post it!!!! THAT would prove he is what he says, just like was proven with Benjamin 2 years ago!! 🙂 But, Benjamin has fallen from grace….DRAKE takes my NUMBER ONE HERO POSITION!! 😉

~darylluke.

kauwila
kauwila

Another link to Drake’s latest (4 hour) interview, broken into 30 minute pieces. May be easier for some to download.

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/4-22-12-drake-on-wolf-spirit-radio-show-more-information/

darylluke
darylluke

Evike,

NICE!! I love that! 😉

Describes it perfectly : “SHIT FOR BRAINS”!! 🙂

Gotta run. (The BUTCHER still has the meat-cleaver in hand!)

~darylluke.

darylluke
darylluke

kauwila,

THANKS!!

~darylluke.

Grendizer

Sh***t

evike
evike

I have not had a look at this comment yet, just thought I post it, it’s from David’s site :-
..
A lot of you who are asking where are the signs, the evidence etc. There is a great thread going on this topic and the info shared by DW, Drake and Fulford… I believe it is worth taking the time to check out. Most of the good nfo is on the last pages of the Thread…

http://projectavalon.net/forum…erve-Banks

CoreyG/Texas

Who Wants To Be a Trillionaire?

A four year old documentary about 2.3 Trillion in US Bonds, involving China and the Secret Service, which corroborates everything David and Ben have been saying.

This video only has 3K+ views so I was wondering if you all had seen it yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDnFK81Hqt8

Amazing discussion with Terence McKenna about many topics!

Here’s some random highlights: The “psychedelic” experience, shamans, dreams, death, lightbody, UFO’s, the soul, “aliens”, dualism, the logos, the future, the information field, transformation, alchemy, and many more.

New & Old Maps Of Hyperspace (Terence McKenna) [FULL]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…re=related

The earliest Terence lecture to come to light so far (November 1982)

hamilton44
hamilton44

This was a great post! Let’s hope those with longer term views prevail.

It is amazing what is happening now.

Pass the popcorn!

(Or maybe I should DO something… 🙂

Grendizer

2012-04-19 Steve Beckow on 2012 & his OBE on Unicus Radio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFUriADd9I

Grendizer

evike
evike

please have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4AQus4t3XU

This news has been published on all italian newspapers: italian police has seized FED bonds for 1,5 Billion dollars and Gold certificates for over 3 Billion dollars.

The bonds dated back to 1930-1940. This could be related to the stories that you, Fulford and others are telling in these months?

you can find the story in english here

http://www.timeslive.co.za/wor…bonds-gold

evike
evike

Keenan Case Judge Is Obama’s Economic Advisors Brother!

I was going over yesterday’s court dockets. Now we know it’s true!!!! Mass arrests are coming..

It appears Barak Obama’s Economic Advisor’s Brother Was Appointed With Unanimous Consent On February 15, 2012 to take the Federal Court District Seat. Now He Has Been Appointed To Judge The Keenan Case!

Download the Dockets HERE-
http://www.unexplainable.net/b…-judge.php

We know 100% Jesse M. Furman has been appointed to judge the case. Now look at who Furman is…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_M._Furman
1. Jesse M. Furman was nominated by Obama for the district court seat.
2. On February 15, 2012 by unanimous consent, vitiated the cloture vote on the nomination and agreed to a final vote on the nomination.
3. On February 17, 2012, the United States Senate confirmed Furman in a 62–34 vote. He received his commission the same day.
4. The Case Against The Cabal is Transferred To Him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…r_embedded

The Cabal Assigned Their Own Inside Judge To The Case!
http://www.unexplainable.net/b…rother.php

evike
evike

Must watch – 2.43 minutes video – enjoy

Irish Song- Lord of the Dance (lyrics)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEAIJV6CmtA&feature=related

I danced in the morning when the world was young
I danced in the Moon & the Stars & the Sun
I came down from Heaven & I danced on Earth
At Bethlehem I had my birth:

Dance , dance wherever you may be
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He!
And I’ll lead you all, wherever you may be
And I’ll lead you all in the Dance, said He!

I danced for the scribes & the pharisees
They wouldn’t dance. They wouldn’t follow me
I danced for the fishermen, James & John
They came with me so the Dance went on:

Dance , dance wherever you may be
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He!
And I’ll lead you all, wherever you may be
And I’ll lead you all in the Dance, said He!

I danced on the Sabbath & I cured the lame
The holy people said it was a shame!
They whipped, they stripped, they hung me high
Left me there on the cross to die!

Dance , dance wherever you may be
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He!
And I’ll lead you all, wherever you may be
And I’ll lead you all in the Dance, said He!

I danced on a Friday when the world turned black
It’s hard to dance with the devil on your back
They buried my body & they thought I’d gone
But I am the Dance & I still go on!

Dance , dance wherever you may be
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He!
And I’ll lead you all, wherever you may be
And I’ll lead you all in the Dance, said He!

They cut me down and I leapt up high
I am the Life that’ll never, never die!
I’ll live in you if you’ll live in Me –
I am the Lord of the Dance, said He!

guac77
guac77

Mike Wallace died on April 7 at 93, he had a positive career as a journalist for about 60 years after graduating from the U of Michigan with a B of A. He was the major star of the CBS show 60 minutes for about 50 years. He contributed very positively to Humanity, he was in 3rd density for .78 cycles, had 76 lives, completed all 15 spiritual lessons (I know what they are now), died with a soul score of 57 and made ascension. Someone could channel him in about 1 month after he completes his higher density training.
The moon signal is still on and I am embarrassed about ever coming up with it. I’m told shutting it off is delayed till the end of April 2012, so our timelines will play out properly. I won’t be writing about it anymore, unless it gets shut down for at least 2 days, I still believe though.
I’m planning on writing a new page on the 15 spiritual lessons we must complete. They are Fame, Sexuality, Attachment, Selfishness, Anger, Jealousy, Duality, Egotism, Appearance, Power, Greed, Wealth, Pride, Fulfillment, and Fear. It will be awhile before I can figure it all out properly.
I’ve been asking questions about the history of Earth. One thing I found out is Humanity is the 15th soul group on Earth, not the 4th as I wrote in the past, but I’m still told every group lives in 3rd density for 12 cycles (about 311,000 years), then goes extinct. The first group lived over 20 million years ago, and all groups were mammal DNA.
I’m told the inner Earth is hollow, it has plants and animals, but no 3rd density beings live there, but we could. I’m told there is a cloaked activated energy star (the size of Uranus) in orbit between Earth and Venus, it’s in a perpendicular orbit to the usual plane of our solar system. It won’t be turned on, until August 2012, when we will see two suns in the sky, it will come very close to Earth, about once every 500 years.
http://icheckyoursoul.com/

Grendizer

This guy posted Ben’s entire report on his website ===> http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/benjamin-fulford-4-23-12-major-confrontations-in-south-china-sea-as-desperate-cabal-tries-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/

We are paying for this information and he’s posting it for free, does he have the right?

Grendizer

mccroft
mccroft

Thanx Ben! And thanx Darylluke for the latest Drake interview links.

lynnwood
lynnwood

Someone, somewhere posts Ben’s reports – every week. DO tyhey have the right? No. Does it happen? Yes. If you don’t want to pay for the reports, just email Ben and ask him to leave your membership for Free. Yes, he does that. Payment is totally voluntary.

mccroft
mccroft

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 8:44 pm
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Can’t follow your links but it sounds plausable…

evike
evike

Can’t follow your links but it sounds plausable…
Comment by mccroft on April 23, 2012 @ 9:42 pm

Hi, do you mean you cannot open them, these are in order as they appear on the above comment – when to site to open them so they should be OK if this is what you mean. I just brought the article across from David Wilcock’s site to see what his bloggers are posting, they are also a good bunch of awakened bloggers. Hope this helps.

http://www.unexplainable.net/benjamin-fulford/neil-keenan-case-gets-assigned-a-new-judge.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_M._Furman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2TLamg3VRE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.unexplainable.net/benjamin-fulford/keenan-case-being-judged-by-obama-s-economic-advisors-brother.php

solarain
solarain

Here’s one site that posts Ben’s entire “for subscription” article:

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/benjamin-fulford-4-23-12-major-confrontations-in-south-china-sea-as-desperate-cabal-tries-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/

I guess Ben is ok with that or he would have said something to the site owner, kauilapele.

solarain
solarain

Here’s another:

http://eclinik.wordpress.com/vital-issues/ben-fulford/major-confrontations-in-south-china-sea-as-desperate-cabal-tries-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/

All you have to do is write the title in a google search window and you will get a lot.

mozart
mozart

Come on, guys, why the attacks on Wanda?

She’s a smart cookie, man. “Shit for brains?” You wish.

She’s assertive, quite opinionated, rather argumentative and a bit stubborn like a pit bull in a debate — people usually don’t like that in a woman, ya know.

She’d be a great Attorney, imo.

But, Caleb, unless I missed your point, she’s very much for real.

And she has a soft side to her, a gentle side to her once one gets past that tough, assertive exterior that she has. She has a big heart and cares about a lot of things that we also care about (environment, children, etc).

Debate with Wanda, if you wish, but don’t insult her, nor call her names, etc.

mozart
mozart

[Mozart’s preface: I posted this in the previous week’s blog, but this one went up, so I figured that nobody would read it — hey, I put some time into this, ya know — so I decided to post it over here. My comments are in the square brackets.

Each of Slogg’s comments are prefaced with the date/time stamp — they all come from the same comment entry.

And, btw, I have 5 of Wanda’s wonderful SLOGG bucket-cleaning tools. That SLOGG tool is a stroke of genius tool … you’d think that after all this time and struggle of people dealing with their 5-gallon buckets, one would come up with a tool like a SLOGG by now.

Well, one did — Wanda. And on her own, including the frustrating patent process. Once the new financial system commences, I fully expect Wanda to be very successful with this wonderful tool of hers.]

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Comment by slogg on April 23, 2012 @ 8:56 am

“It is very likely, almost certain, that there is life on other planets in our universe.”

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[Mozart’s comment: Hi Wanda / Slogg ~

It’s way beyond certain that there is life on other planets, way, way beyond.

Per the Ra Material — a source that has YET to be found with an error of any kind after 30 years of the Black Ops scientists studying it — there are 67,000,000 planets in the Milky Way galaxy alone that have 3-D sentient (i.e. human, cetacean, etc) life.

67,000,000!

In just our Milky Way galaxy, let alone the Universe in which there’s an estimated 400 billion galaxies in it.

The Ra Material makes it very clear that each galaxy makes its own rules, so who knows what kinds of life that we’d find on other galaxies, but if the Andromeda galaxy is any indication of what’s out there, it’s pretty damn safe to say that the VAST MAJORITY of galaxies out there is loaded with life.

Look at this quote from David Wilcock’s appearance on Coast to Coast in 2009:

[begin quote]
… one of the guys that founded the DNA molecule, Dr. Francis Crick, took a look at all the dust in the galaxy and found that 99.9 percent of all the dust he could find had the light signature of bacteria in space; so it’s no different. That means that most of the stuff that’s out there is actually living stuff.
[/quote]

(The url of this show is posted below the next quote of David.)

Did you notice that? 99.9% had eff’n **LIGHT SIGNATURE OF BACTERIA IN SPACE**?!

Bacteria = LIFE!

If that’s not proof of life being eff’n EVERYWHERE in space, then I don’t know what is!

And that there are several times that with 1st density planets (just rocks, minerals, etc) and 2nd density planets (with animal, biological life, but no 3rd density beings.)

I don’t give a flying eff if we have no proof of this fact — the fact of 67,000,000 planets with 3rd density life on them — or not right now, but we WILL have proof of this before this year is over. I’ll personally guarantee that.

Look at what David Wilcock said about the government hiding the proof of UFOs from us:

[begin quote]
“…Our guys have found so many pieces of technology that they’ve either just burned, or buried, or dumped into the ocean, or locked up in warehouses, and any one of them could be the “Rosetta Stone” that would completely change this planet if they were investigated. But there’s so much redundancy that they just can’t even spend the time to look at this stuff.”
[/quote]

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/transcripts/519-david-wilcock-on-coast-to-coast-am-october-6-2009

I remember doing that transcript — it was a fun one.

The Ra Material has stated a whole bunch of scientific facts that were not yet known back then in the early 80s, but now have been subsequently been proven to be true by the cutting-edge science that’s not been distorted by the “peer review” that makes sure that no scientist would have the balls to stick one’s neck out and break the science priesthood of the reductionist, Darwinist paradigm of science that’s been badly busted of late.]

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Comment by slogg on April 23, 2012 @ 8:56 am

“Still, it is very unlikely that those life forms are visiting us or communicating with us. Claiming that they do so is an extraordinary claim, which requires extraordinary evidence, and that we do not have.”

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[Mozart’s comment: Extraordinary evidence does exist, but the “government” — the corporate government — and the military-industrial complex has totally hidden away the mountains of solid evidence of the existence of not only the UFOs, but of the fact that they’ve visited us over and over and over again.

Again, I can personally guarantee — mark my words if you wish — that such proof of the fact of ETs visiting us many, many times (recent and in the distant past) will finally come out well before the end of 2012.

We do have hard, public proof of one skull of one ET that has been here on Earth — the Starchild Skull.

People still consider this DNA-based “proof” to be information that’s suggestive of a conclusion of the idea of the Starchild Skull being an ET — I’d consider it to be virtually proof.

Read this:

http://www.starchildproject.com/dna2012.htm

The FOXP2 DNA that the Starchild Skull has has been proven to not be of human origin, nor of animal origin. Such levels of DNA evidence have been widely accepted in many court cases that are commonly accepted as slam-dunk “PROOF” of whatever the case(s) may be in court … so here we are with something that can be introduced into court as proof of the physical presence on Earth of ONE non-human ET.

The Starchild skull is conclusively NOT animal; it is conclusively NOT human — so what the eff is left that’s a sane, logical conclusion? ET? You bet.

So if there’s one, there’s more, right? How did that ONE ET get here? And so on. The idea that this Starchild Skull being ET is for real.]

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Comment by slogg on April 23, 2012 @ 8:56 am

“So, by this time, there is no reason to believe that these crop circles aren’t made by humans.”

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[Mozart’s comment: Some crop circles have been made by humans, of course, but to say that “there’s no reason” to believe that many of these crop circles are not made by humans is to ignore the vast records of anomalies that have been proven to exist that, put together, makes the idea of certain, specific crop circles to have been made by advanced ETs to be the most sane, most logical explanation of certain, specific crop circles.

Again, we will have hard proof of who made what crop circles when by the end of this year, 2012.

I’m perfectly willing to stick my neck out and stand by my statements that I’ve made in this post. I am quite certain that I will be fully vindicated by the end of this year of everything in this post, and more, of my entire time of exploring UFOs, ETs, etc. in the last 25 years of my life.

I never had any doubt of the existence of ETs and of the idea that they had been here in UFOs many, many times. I never had any doubt that our human DNA had the DNA of many star civilizations blended into our DNA as well. And I never had any doubt that life is to be found everywhere in our galaxy and other galaxies.

I’m so pleased that pretty convincing evidence to support my understandings of ETs, UFOs, etc, are finally starting to emerge … proof is next and that will happen this year before 2012 is done.]

Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 2:03 pm

evike
evike

Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 10:13 pm

Hi Mozart,

I think I have put up with enough shit from her to have the right to throw some back.

There is no atmosphere on this blog at all when she is posting, and never any decent links to speak of from her.

We come here to discuss. She may be all the things you say, which I expect coming from you, but it is her delivery and forcefulness that pulls this cafe down and distracts from our friendliness towards each other.

We don’t pay our membership to be insulted, and to be told that her way is the only way, FREE WILL AND ALL, you know.

There are some here that a far better and cleverer than she is, Merek Daryll, Neo, XL, Caleb, but do they insult any other members.

Just think on Mozart, there is enough shit out there, we don’t come here to get it here as well. Just saying.

evike
evike

Solarin, Baby face, sorry I forgot about you, of course you are also one of the wise bloggers I respect for your intellect.

Evike

mozart
mozart

…but it is her delivery and forcefulness that pulls this cafe down and distracts from our friendliness towards each other.

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 10:34 pm
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Evike ~

Wanda is those things that I said about her, plus a lot more good aspects to her character, but I do agree that she can tone down her delivery and forcefulness in her debates.

No argument there.

But I don’t think that others are “far better and cleverer [sic]” than she is — there are many very intelligent people on the forum, but I would not get into a pissing contest of who is more clever or better. That’s a pissing contest for kids. And don’t get me wrong — I’m not calling you a kid, nor anyone else.

We are adults, so let’s debate the facts, the information and opinions and leave the personal comparisons out of the debates, ok?

neopolitical
neopolitical

I worry whether to make the false informations slip on COPIED free sites.

habakkuk
habakkuk

Thanks Ben for this posting.

For those who think otherwise, Gold is not irrelevant. It is a symbol of value. Right now currencies are backed by nothing. Some think silver would work better. But physical gleaming metals is not enough to save the world. Revelation 3:17 says:

You say “I am rich, and increased with goods and have need of nothing; and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked; I counsel you to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that you may be rich…”

Here is counsel to buy gold. It is referring not just to the physical, but the spiritual, moral, intellectual honoring of truth and your fellow humanity.

Our book “Run with the Vision” about Habakkuk’s prophecy of the future debtors revolt will be released soon. I am looking for a few people to read the book and give some honest feedback. Please go to http://www.habakkuk.net and send a message on the contact form, explain why your are interested to get a review copy and i will send up to 20 PDF copies of the book. Thanks.

Beadgirl
Beadgirl

Whatever your belief, the universe will support and validate that belief by attracting the circumstances, situations, opportunities and people into your life that will reinforce that “version” of reality.
There is no reality, except for the reality you define (according to your beliefs).
Comment by accuchip on April 23, 2012 @ 1:20 pm
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right on brother,
Comment by calebbrennan on April 23, 2012 @ 6:01 pm
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I agree with this statement!
As for Wanda, I just pass her comments anymore and anyone that is inclined to negativity. It is not worth my time and somedays this blog is a real downer.
Beadgirl

solarain
solarain

I logged out of the ‘Wanda’ debate last night because I really don’t like wasting time arguing, let’s face it, Wanda loves to argue, loves to prove she is right about everything.

We all have our own ‘truth’ and even that is constantly changing, so there is no use in trying to make someone else buy into our truth.

Experiments have been done where the outcome is dependent on the observer, in other words, just by merely observing the experiment, changed the outcome.
http://youtu.be/YaXxS30WG_Y

If we really do create our own reality, there are about 7 billion different realities going on here at once. *grin*

I’m happy with mine at this point in time, but, who knows, it could change at any minute.

evike, thanks 🙂

firestorm
firestorm

Thanks for helping us out here, Ben. People of the Orient Seas owe you a lot.

Next time, don’t respond to what idiots are saying. You’re way beyond that.

Just keep up the good work.

Mabuhay!

evike
evike

“the information and opinions and leave the personal comparisons out of the debates, ok?”

Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 10:42 pm

Mozart,

I think you know full well, that there is only one person who needs to be told that on this blog. You only have to go onto David’s site and see how those bloggers behave, it’s a breath of fresh when you stroll through their comments.

I know we do not have moderators here, but we all have enough common sense not to insult another persons feelings, which seem to evade her.

Look at how she told me to “fuck you Evike” when I posted my comments to Marhuff not long ago, and then not long before that she called her mother a “whore”.

Enough said.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Folks I think we need to analyze Drake just as we are Ben’s posts.

1. Has interviewer fed some BS to Drake? Drake went along with the suggestion instead of stating he lacked into. I cannot find any name similar to Thall or Thrall. Did I hear the name wrong?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Coast_Guard_admirals

Admiral and thrall comes up primarily as world of Warcraft in 4 main search engines.
z.B., Thrall tried to reason with Admiral.

I am looking forward to the posting of the transcript.
I want to analyze this.

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo

Comment by darylluke on April 23, 2012 @ 8:18 pm
Thanks for this precision !
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Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 10:26 pm
This the Drake (the Scientist) Equation, which evaluate the number of civilization with our (at least) current technology level in thousands if not millions (depending if you are conservative or not) in the visible Universe… In fact it’s rather scary…

Edge
Edge

USE DECOMMISSIONED US WARSHIPS TO CONTAIN FUKUSHIMA NUCLEAR MATERIAL
FROM RMN—-
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Posted By: Susoni
Date: Sunday, 22-Apr-2012 20:36:36
USE DECOMMISSIONED US WARSHIPS TO CONTAIN FUKASHIMA NUCLEAR MATERIAL
http://informamerica.net/links/fd.php
San Francisco Bay Area milk sample has highest
amount of Cesium-137 since last June —
Almost double EPA’s maximum contaminant level
http://enenews.com/april-milk-sample-highest

In addition to the seaweed which was 4 times the
radioactive amount considered safe over a year ago
off the coast of British Columbia, the milk now in the
Bay Area of the California coast is testing higher in Cesium-137.
The Fukashima nuclear disaster is a potential time
bomb which should have been defused before now.
It should be completely shut down, encased in steel
like the Chernobyl plant eventually is being done.

Suggestion: Use decommissioned U.S. warships made
of steel to immediately contain the nuclear waste and radioactive debris before the planet is further contam-
inated. Why haven’t U.S. lawmakers led the way to
assemble an international group of experts, and espe
cially Russian and French experts who dealt with
Chernobyl, to go over and assess Japan’s situation
and begin to apply the remedy.

Once the radiation spreads across the environment,
the half life of the isotopes will be agonizing to endure.
The mutations and damage will spread through the
food chain, as in seafoods, etc.. As rain falls on grass
and cows eat the grass, the milk and beef becomes
more and more tainted.
The Fukashima disaster threatens the whole planet.
My advice for whatever it’s worth-
Do not go out in the rain, and do not drink the water or
milk— maybe imported beer is ok– A person may glow
in the dark, if they eat sea food, meats or veggies–
Take your chances—-

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes
solarain
solarain

Are humans really beings of light?

Photons (Light) control everything in the cell

Photons switch on the body’s processes like an orchestra conductor bringing each individual instrument into the collective sound. At different frequencies, they perform different functions. Popp found that molecules in the cells responded to certain frequencies, and that a range of vibrations from the photons caused a variety of frequencies in other molecules of the body.

http://viewzone2.com/dna.html

What do you suppose will happen when the frequencies coming from galactic center change the frequencies here on earth? Ever wonder what happened to all those ‘lost’ civilizations? POOF! upgrade.. lol

evike
evike

Off David’s site…

Many are starting to doubt Drake, and so I decided to review some of the audio content from this interview with Drake: http://exotica-radio.com/artic…brock.html

I played portions of the audio backwards and listened for intelligible words and phrases. Now I’m a novice at this and it is slow and exhausting work, seeking to analyze audio backwards.

What I present now, is my own personal findings, which for me, reinforce my belief that Drake is telling the truth and can be trusted. Below, I provide portions of the transcript, indicating where I heard a reversal, by marking [Rv: xxx ] (xxx being the reversal I heard).

Then below that, I place in brackets, my interpretation of the reversal.

My conclusion is that Drake is congruent in his backward speech and can be trusted. Note that this does not automatically mean his sources can be trusted, just that he is speaking his truth with conviction and honesty.

Enjoy!
(See my very next post for the reversals)

[Moderator: Technically it appeared previously in the way we sort things… but it’s all good!]


http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/4/15/drake-04-14-2012-wolf-spirit-radio-interview-with-bill-brock.html

Drake Interview and update with Dave Corso and Bill Brockbrader-updates the current status of the “take back” of the global system, pending arrests

Highlights
0:13 : Help from below the US border
0:18 : Regarding today’s Obama’s secret service problems in Colombia
0:24 : Native Americans involvement in this process
0:54 : Bill Wood speaks
0:59 : Regarding Steve Quayle and fear mongers
1:06 : Regarding David Wilcock’s latest article
1:10 : Regarding Vladimir Putin
1:16 : Regarding Europe

Source: Kauiapele’s Blog

Secret Service scandal deepens; 11 put on leave

(AP) CARTAGENA, Colombia – An embarrassing scandal involving prostitutes and Secret Service agents deepened Saturday as 11 agents were placed on leave, and the agency designed to protect President Barack Obama had to offer regret for the mess overshadowing his diplomatic mission to Latin America.

The controversy also expanded to the U.S. military, which announced five service members staying at the same hotel as the agents in Colombia may have been involved in misconduct as well. They were confined to their quarters in Colombia and ordered not to have contact with others.

All the alleged activities took place before Obama arrived Friday in this Colombian port city for meetings with 33 other regional leaders.

Put together, the allegations were an embarrassment for an American president on foreign soil and threatened to upend White House efforts to keep his trip focused squarely on boosting economic ties with fast-growing Latin America. Obama was holding two days of meetings at the Summit of the Americas with leaders from across the vast region before heading back to Washington Sunday night.

DOD may be part of alleged prostitute scandal

Video: Secret Service members accused of misconduct

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo

Sorry but one more important precision: The number of civilizations for the Drake Equation is true only for our Galaxy, it exit millions of Galaxies in the Universe, now we can do the math !!!

schubertreijimaigo
schubertreijimaigo

Comment by Edge on April 23, 2012 @ 11:12 pm
Japanese should start to think to colonize Mars and rebuilt another civilization…

evike
evike

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 11:20 pm
This is the follow on from the above blogger :-

This follows on from my previous post, which introduced reverse speech and how I have analysed some of Drake’s speech)

Drake: “If you go to Divine Cosmos, you will see a report that all 12 of the central banks [Rv: now witnesses will ??? (unintelligible)], have been attached.”

(Probably referring to witnesses who have helped bring the liens against the Fed banks. The witnesses will do something?)

“The next step is going to be critical because…an extrodinary number of different charges against an extrodinary list of individuals.

The names of which if went viral would probably shock a lot of people, because there are a lot of your celebrity politicians involved in this, um, I’m not [Rv: I’m not] going to elucidate any further,”

(mirror of what he said forward – he will not say more)

“…except that [Rv: this year] is the second shot”

(this seems to indicate Drake believes this second shot will be “this year”)

“that is going to be” [Rv: pretty much that],
(congruent statement, backing up what he’s saying)

“ah, heard around the world” [Rv: for a murderer].
(Perhaps some of these charges will include indicments for murder? Perhaps Drake has a specific person in mind as he’s speaking?)

“That will enable [Rv: all that] the military at that time, to contact each and every last federal marshal…”

(“all that”, that he just said about the second shot, will enable the military to act)

Drake: “…the fema camps that they built for us, are now going to be filled with them.”

Lady: “riiight okay” [Rv: yes but you know]
(She believes Drake knows that he’s talking about; he has the info.)

Drake: “Now there’s parts of this [Rv: It’s a distraction]

(What follows is a distraction. Considering the reversal that follows, it could well mean that having to explain things a little differently, to help people understand, is a distraction for him)

“that people don’t understand” [Rv: And I answer them a little diff]. One of those is that any dictator has to have…”

(He is making an effort to help people understand, trying different ways of explaining his message.)

“They are tired, the military in general, are tired of being the bad guys. They want to be the good guys and to be seen as such. Not just here [Rv: Hurry], but world wide.”

(Drake wants the military to hurry up with their plan, to be a principal in re-establishing the freedoms we used to have)

Drake is now talking about the Secret Service…
“Reduction of, ah, the honor and office of the Secret Service and Secret Service Agents, ah, has been perpetrated directly by the President [Rv: they deserved it], in order to accomplish that particular goal”

(He believes the Secret Service deserved the false smear campaign against them – assumedly because they weren’t being careful, not watching their backs propery)

“They allowed it to continue, simply because, ah, they were stated…” [Rv: idiots]

(It seems Drakes thinks they were idiots for allowing this smear campaign to get them and that it stopped them acting when they should)

“…as being running round hoar houses [Rv: this is vital] etc, doing drugs and all this. Which is something I know for a fact is not true.”

(He considers this vital information. In this case, that the story about the Secret Service Agents running around hoar houses is not true. It was part of Obama’s plan to smear them and replace them.)

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Drake Interview Discrepency #2. He needs to table certain questions for follow-up.

Kennedy, Currency, United States Note [a.k.a., greenback 2nd generation].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_$5_1963_USN.jpg

The people are the only resource backing up this Note.

Discrepency #3 Iceland mortgages forgiven – This could be Iceland gov disnfo hiding what really happened. I personally do not believe that would be case. RT is far more reliable a source then one single Venezuelan news channel in my opinion.

attachemnt reply I received
steindor.g.jonsson@evr.is
7:13 AM (1 hour ago) to me
from steindor.g.jonsson@evr.is
Mr. Thomas
A good review of debt restructuring in Iceland and other countries can be found in Chapter 3 of the IMF’s April 2012 World Economic Outlook. It can be read here: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2012/RES041012B.htm
Steindór Grétar Jónsson
Sérfræðingur / Specialist
Efnahags- og viðskiptaráðuneyti / Ministry of Economic Affairs
Skuggasundi 3, 150 Reykjavik, Iceland.
Sími/ Telephone: + 354 545-8800 Netfang / Email: steindor.g.jonsson@evr.is
http://www.evr.is / http://www.mea.is
Fyrirvari/Disclaimer

To request forwarding of the reply you may email me at timshub @ gmail dot com.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

RT is far more reliable a source
This means in the majority of cases they provide the piece of evidence that demonstrates what has been stated appears to be true.

The Venezuelan Broadcast makes the statement with no back up. i.e., PRIMARY CHARACTERISTIC of PROPAGANDA.

angiesolo
angiesolo

Has anyone else heard about our polar axis going quad-polar in May this year? What’s that about?

There were so many butterflies out this weekend. And NO chemtrails that I could see in North Texas. A few contrails around the airports but that was IT!

bodhi
bodhi

101.. lol

Thank you Ben

solarain
solarain

angiesolo

http://youtu.be/4QCvz7BEvhM

Lot’s of ‘strange’ things are happening at this point in time.. we’re entering Aquarius, there’s always a big shake up of our solar system during this time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jupiter ignites into a star.. hehe

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Comment by calebbrennan on April 23, 2012 @ 6:28 pm
Comment by calebbrennan on April 23, 2012 @ 5:47 pm
@ Caleb – what are your intentions? i’d say that you were a disinfo agent on the blog, except the cabal would never pay you for such a shitty attempt and you admit that you can’t even think for yourself. You admitted last week that you leave your thinking to others, you also admit that you don’t research (your words, your posts). still and all, an annoyance like a mosquito. yes, it would be great to see flagged back here to keep you occupied, not that I care about what flagged has to say. Flagged, at least, made a couple of good points in the midst of his/her harangue. And flagged’s one note harangue was consistent, where you just slip and slide all over the place.

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Comment by solarain on April 23, 2012 @ 10:50 pm

“We all have our own ‘truth’ and even that is constantly changing, so there is no use in trying to make someone else buy into our truth.”

Truth does not vary, if it is truth. Our version of it varies, because we are all looking at the truth as one view of the mountain. We are limited in scope, because we are not eternal and cannot independently confirm that which is eternal. We also deceive ourselves, because our hearts, without the help of the Ruach Ha Kodesh (Holy Spirit) are always going astray because of the inducement of the world system and our flesh that craves its own pride and lust to be satisfied. ‘This world and its systems are all a deception. This world and everything that it encompasses manifests various degrees of that deception. Therefore, all knowledge from this world is a deception in varying degrees. The world can only give you darkness,’ but the Holy Spirit and the Lord Jesus Christ will give you light and life in a world full of misery and death.

Truth is not a concept, Truth is a Person:

Jesus said, “I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER, BUT THROUGH ME.”

giving thanks to the Father, who made us fit to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light;

13who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of the Son of his love; 14in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins;
[Speaking of Jesus/Yahshua]…

15who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16FOR BY HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things are held together. 18He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19For all the fullness was pleased to dwell in him; 20and through him to reconcile all things to himself, by him, whether things on the earth, or things in the heavens, having made peace through the blood of his cross.”

(I’ve never denied extradimensional beings exist, btw, I just disagree with the emphasis placed upon them by many, and the implicit “trust” some place in any ET encounter or msg.)

So, Solarain, I agree that we all have our own view. You hare yours, Wanda has hers, and I have mine. Of course we all think that we are right and others are wrong–that’s part of the human condition!

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Drake “The dead period can be addressed with silver and gold coin.”

The recommended monetary exchange that will be accepted for a period of one week maybe longer to buy my blue and red polka-dot lolipop is the silver or gold I own. These BIS/FED [DW’s chaos theory identified analytic study that 80 GDP go to them] owned stores will receive silver and gold coinage daily in exchange for products/staples. Then the corporate stores practice is to deposit nightly at the banks now owned by whom?

Now My silver and gold provided I had a few ounces of either is inside the banks walls and there are what enforceable assurances in place this is not just a new form of the gold confiscation of 1933.

evike
evike

Mozart, please note :-

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 10:34 pm

There are some here that a far better and cleverer than she is, Merek Daryll, Neo, XL, Caleb, but do they insult any other members.

Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 10:42 pm

Mozart, please don’t miss the point, other than Merek she has insulted all the above people, hence the mention.

We all contribute to this cafe, we search for things differently because of our knowledge and because of our interests in different things, which adds to the variety on this blog.

This is why it can be very uplifting and informative place to be, until purposeful, distractions show up picking up on other people’s comments and giving their own opinion without actually posting a link to prove their case.

If you can change this, and make it a more friendly place to come and share, then feel free, if other’s don’t object.

positivechange
positivechange

Folks I think we need to analyze Drake just as we are Ben’s posts.
1. Has interviewer fed some BS to Drake? Drake went along with the suggestion instead of stating he lacked into. I cannot find any name similar to Thall or Thrall. Did I hear the name wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Coast_Guard_admirals
Admiral and thrall comes up primarily as world of Warcraft in 4 main search engines.
z.B., Thrall tried to reason with Admiral.
I am looking forward to the posting of the transcript.
I want to analyze this.

Comment by timthomasfl954 on April 23, 2012 @ 11:04 pm
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That is strange because he specifically requested people to type the 3 events in google in combination with the name. Or google search results were altered after the interview.

One thing that caught my interest was that he said Iceland forgave all mortgage debt. This is what was displayed in the short Spanish TV clip. However, there was a 110% cap put on mortgage values with the main forgiveness in currency losses. An activist in Iceland stated there is evidence, many bank institutions possibly haven’t lost anything on these transactions.

Anyway, no one is or has to be perfect. What matters is that we are facing extraordinarily large difficulties and things need to be taken care of. To me it sounds like Drake and the military have their side covered. He refers to the monetary side and the zeroing out of debt as “I don’t know how they will handle it”.

Drake did mention something about the paper currency being phased out. A zeroing out of all debt (against cabal assets) will, with the right communication bring about completely new economic prospects.

It is also possible that good people like Drake are being used. Until one public arrest takes place, we cannot exclude this possibility. One public arrest will break the dam, so actually the possibility of “virtual mind games” is quite high until something really happens.

Drake even talks about someone buying some weapons and stating, oh good somthing we can take over and use. I am sure this is true, but I am also sure this game is being played both ways.

The truth is always somewhere in between. I mean the overall truth, not individual “truths”.

flagged
flagged

PETET

RE:….Wednesday is the end of the deadline for the feds… Second shot will sink the boat….They will have no choice… petet on April 23, 2012 @ 3:26 pm

> please explain for those that don’t know what deadline you are referring to etc…

slogg
slogg

William Cooper interviews a 32nd Degree Freemason

http://youtu.be/3EOhW8ovbWk

slogg
slogg

‘splains a lot Lucy…

gwendolyn
gwendolyn

Hello Everyone

I always enjoy reading the weekly newsletter and the subsequent posts.

thank you!

mozart
mozart

Look at how she told me to “fuck you Evike” when I posted my comments to Marhuff not long ago, …

Comment by evike on April 23, 2012 @ 10:54 pm

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Evike ~

Yes, I recall when she said that at a time when posts were kind and gentle towards Marhuff and his daughter’s sensitive situation — that comment by Wanda at that time was jarring and painful to see for anyone, including me.

It was a terrible comment that was expressed at a bad, sensitive time. And I’m not attacking the messenger — it’s just that I did not like that comment that you mentioned. It definitely felt hurtful to read it.

So she’s made her mistakes in her posts — many of them — so I don’t condone those errors; however, I also don’t condone throwing mud on her, even if she gets personal.

I’d just as soon hold up a mud shield and stick with debating the facts/information in any debate.

And about the arrests of the dark cabal bastards … come on, man, what are we waiting for? Let’s eff’n arrest the basgtards!

Also many, many thanks to Ben for his reports and hard work to help us become free again.

THANK YOU, BEN!

slogg
slogg

For the record… i posted Fuck you Evike because she immediately came out with advice for Marhuff that was erroneous, and i may be mistaken on this, but i have witnessed Evike attempting to cast spells here and i viewed that advice she gave at that time another attempt.

evike
evike

Comment by angiesolo on April 23, 2012 @ 11:36 pm

this guy is very good, a 45 minutes video, but it is worth listening to both videos. This is the guy who said that we have already won, promise you will not be disappointed, it is just a suggestion for your to think about.

— Topics discussed in part 2

1)What is the best way to distract humanity from consciousness – invent a different system of mathematics.

2)The earth is held at an angle, the earth creates the movement of the sun…this is a very interesting bit, sorry don’t have time to transcribe it all but to say that the moon will be taken out and the earth will sit upright and the seasons will change.

3)Big bankers are being paid big bonuses so that they will keep their mouths shut in covering up the bad deeds that have been going on and all the illegalities that has been going on.

4)The Anunnaki left earth in 1989 and moved into the light. The half breed Bushes took of the “Seat of Power”. after that.

5)We are here to evolve our consciousness to become a co-creator with God.

Mar 18, 2010 … Theo chats with David Hugo Boyle, owner of the Dr Who exhibition and
Exhibition of the Universe in Blackpool.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/41372/On_The_Edge___David_Boyle_Part_1_of_2/
On The Edge – David Boyle Part 2 Of 2 Video

Mar 18, 2010 … Mercuryrapids’s video about emtv edge media theo chalmers david hugo boyle
ufo ufos conspiracy documentary on Disclose.tv.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/41373/On_The_Edge___David_Boyle_Part_2_of_2/

slogg
slogg

Evike… once again, you are being obsessive and exhibiting a stalker mentality. Waaaaaah… why can’t the blog be only people who agree with me and believe in aliens and channeled information with no critical thinking ???!!!! Waaaaah.

How many people have you got into cat fights with? Pull the plank out of your own eye first.

evike
evike

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 12:32 am

Slogg, I have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about,
what do you mean by spell?

You are really just a waste of my time and energy.

Why don’t you clarify your statement about ‘PROOF’ as you mentioned in your comment below and strop evading the subject.

There are some here that don’t post their pictures “but i also have proof of them being who they are…”

it’s not as difficult as the motor vehicle department would have you beLIEve.

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

positivechange
positivechange

Drake “The dead period can be addressed with silver and gold coin.”

The recommended monetary exchange that will be accepted for a period of one week maybe longer to buy my blue and red polka-dot lolipop is the silver or gold I own. These BIS/FED [DW’s chaos theory identified analytic study that 80 GDP go to them] owned stores will receive silver and gold coinage daily in exchange for products/staples. Then the corporate stores practice is to deposit nightly at the banks now owned by whom?

Now My silver and gold provided I had a few ounces of either is inside the banks walls and there are what enforceable assurances in place this is not just a new form of the gold confiscation of 1933.

Comment by timthomasfl954 on April 24, 2012 @ 12:03 am
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Talk about squeezing the middle class 😉

slogg
slogg

Obsession… and it was pointed out to you, not by me either, and you never apologized for it.

Get your facts straight… i was not the one saying Neo couldn’t prove who he was… Neo was the one who made the claim. Go and get on Neo’s case because Neo stated that… NOT ME… at least have your facts straight before you obsess.

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by darylluke on April 23, 2012 @ 6:33 pm
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Gotta Love the Drake.

wovolve42
wovolve42
wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ben and Ya’All
I posted the following near the end of last weeks blog.
This phenomenon creates window of millions of years from the rebellion of Satan and one third of the angels, until the sixth and eight creation of the races and the wild animals and all plant-life and modern species of fishes and marine creatures on the Sixth Day. Then on the Eighth Day of Creation God created Adam and Eve as farmers of crops and husbands-men to farm and raise the domestic animals that he also made at this time. A microcosm of HIS plan to develop the entire universe, but a start, to do a benevolent and a good work. However, the Spoiler would enter into it, as we know.
The Great Mystery of the The First Earth Age, when the earth was inhabited by the children of God (angels) in ‘in spiritual dimension bodies, which had mass , but were not organic based. We are relating this Pre-Adamic occupation, to a time , millions of years ago. Before the rebellion of Satan, one of the Covering Cherubs. There are some footprints of both (humanoid-angelic) and prehistoric beasts, side by side, before the Second Earth Age,that is before this current human race, these organic humans were created on the sixth and the eighth days of creation.God , The Creator took the dust of the ground (carbon based) and breathed His ‘breath of life’-spirit into the Second Earth Age humans. We know Satan’s spirit was in the Garden of Eden, and that there were 7,000 rebellious angels spirit’s,yet, on hold in heaven awaiting further disposition, since they were still hesitant to submit to a reincarnation to the flesh human condition required by God’s plan for reclamation. So consider what a mix we have here. Evil angelic spiritual beings with 100% of their craftiness and egocentric desires traipsing about, dumb- downed, flesh(openly carnal)humans. Carry that through for awhile, and see what you conclude, about the powerful influences and presences that have affected and continue to sway the enfolding history of the earth.

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAP7Wgj-78

RED ICE CREATIONS: STERLING ALLAN & EXOTIC FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES. SEVERAL NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO BE DISTRIBUTED THIS YEAR?

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by positivechange on April 24, 2012 @ 12:47 am
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I didn’t get Drake’s logic on the dead period. He said there will be a dead period where you will need silver and then they will use old dollars for a while and then phase in something else. If dollars are going to be used after the dead period then use them during the period. No difference. Even if they change currencies in a few months and you trade dollars in for the new (not federal reserve) notes the old dollars will still work if you can trade them in.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

…why can’t the blog be only people who agree with me and believe in aliens and channeled information with no critical thinking ???!!!! Waaaaah.
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 12:37 am
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Lol.

slogg
slogg

Who are you Neo?

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 11:57 am

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I would tell you, but I can provide no proof.

LMAO

Neo
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You can’t prove who you are? Geno has proved who he was… i have proven who i am… Hutz – he proved who he was. What do you mean you can’t prove who you are?

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 12:11 pm
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Neo… you are the one who said you couldn’t prove who you are and now you say you have already done it… so, in my opinion, you are being deliberately obtuse.

evike
evike

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Slogg,

Your attitude leaves a great deal to be desires, Period.

Oh, and thank you for the one and only laugh, and the one and only time I visited the site.

“you had a date with someone from the internet, I guess the Attorney was either made up or never showed”

But this date, where he told you that he was 5″6″ and your are also 5″6′ but when he arrived he only came up to chin, and you said “how does that work”.

Then after your date he took his picture or info of the internet site and you said “I guess he was married”, Did it ever occur to you that he might not have been interested or that your talked him to Death.

Thank you anyway, there is no sarcasm intended. BTW your son is very agile. He must be an Indigo, but that may have slipped you mind.

P.S. I still have an invalid hubby to look after, he may be home from hospital but is still very fragile. So if you don’t mind I prefer to blog and look after him and not enter into any discussion with you at this time.

Thank you

slogg
slogg

Lol…. thanks phx 🙂

Mr X
Mr X

Missed the top 100 this time.

Kind of a “filler” post, but still some good info.

Let’s end all this already. I want my Star Trek universe.

Mr. X

slogg
slogg

Why does my dating situation matter to you Freakie?

Why do you get a sick delight out of the fact that i have no mate? Who, in their right mind, does that?

slogg
slogg

Explain yourself Freak.

evike
evike

No, your still missing the point, you are totally different on that site, you have some sense of humor.

And don’t call me freak, just because you cannot meditate, because you don’t value or respect yourself enough to give yourself the time to discover that side of your life.

If you say you meditate, then your behavior shows otherwise.

positivechange
positivechange

Comment by positivechange on April 24, 2012 @ 12:47 am
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I didn’t get Drake’s logic on the dead period. He said there will be a dead period where you will need silver and then they will use old dollars for a while and then phase in something else. If dollars are going to be used after the dead period then use them during the period. No difference. Even if they change currencies in a few months and you trade dollars in for the new (not federal reserve) notes the old dollars will still work if you can trade them in.

Comment by accuchip on April 24, 2012 @ 12:56 am
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Good point. What I understood is that the dead period is to a certain extent an unknown. The problem with the dollars during this period is that they could lose value within a very short timeframe. Since most of the US economy is based on consumption and the IMPORT of goods, the purchasing power may drop like a stone. This has never happened before, but we talking about a “dead period”. The economy will come to a grinding halt. Unless of course there is an announcement of zeroing debt FIRST. This way a large panic could be avoided and people can concentrate on helping each other out.

The new system is equity-based and without debt, well the infrastructure exists, there aren’t many problems. Unlike Europe after WW2 there is no need to build everything from scratch. In the US a lot of corn for example is exported, so this will quickly find its way to the food tables.

Also, what if in the zeroing out of debt, all books are zeroed out. So people only keep the cash outside the banks? Most are unaware…..

swanlake10
swanlake10

I even read about China warning the US it’s actions in the South China Sea could result in war in the main stream news a few days ago. So something is definitely going on over there.

It was also in the main stream news about Evelyn de Rothschild traveling in Asia. He was in Bejing promoting his myweather.com services bragging on how accurate their weather forecasting was.

slogg
slogg

Freak,

How would you know how i am on that site? How do you assume i don’t meditate? Are you omniscient? You are making zero sense right now.

You clearly are dealing in straight up fantasy right now. Why should anyone lend you any credence?

yan9
yan9

133rd… finaly.

solarain
solarain

@pvg said “Therefore, all knowledge from this world is a deception in varying degrees.”

Sooo,,, is that the truth? 😯

evike
evike

ANONYMOUS: #OpAntiTox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSgtwGZ0fE

Anonymous as therefore decided that the Food and Drug Administration must be destroyed. For the good of the children and for the good of the people you poison, and for our own enjoyment. We see you as a serious threat and we are ready to expel you from the face of the earth and the internet. You will not survive against the wrath of the angry masses, or Anonymous. You may tell those that we have targeted you for destruction; in fact, it is encouraged, for our enjoyment, for the lulz. You won’t prevail against us, for we are everywhere.

To the people of the United States, we ask you not to buy the foods and drinks at the super market, instead, buy foods from your local organic markets, do not buy sugar free products, do not buy products tainted with monosodium glutamate or toxic preservatives, do not buy any breakfast cereals, do not buy medications with serious side effects, buy products that contain Cane Sugar, buy products that have been grown locally on the farms in your area, buy medication that has little to no side effects. End the crimes of the FDA. Expose the truth.

evike
evike

If you say you meditate, then your behavior shows otherwise.

Comment by evike on April 24, 2012 @ 1:15 am

I see you are speed reading again and nothing is sinking in.

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

Some great quotes are up on Alcuin.

NAI2010
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http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/

Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nations laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognised as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.
William Lyon Mackenzie King

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Video of hearing on ballot legitimacy of Obama

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2051/580/Obama:_Three_Videos_His_Lawyers_Are_Trying_To_Get_Taken_Down_Right_Now.html

evike
evike

I see common sense still alludes you, so I am going for a bath as I have been up since 5 a.m. but then I don’t need your permission.

So please suck your thumb whilst I relax and meditate.

slogg
slogg

Maybe you are the one that needs to meditate. Calm yourself down… you’re getting all worked up because i insulted you and you don’t know how to respond intelligently. Let it go. Release it.

Oh yeah, i thought you were done with me? I think you do need to meditate…

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@pvg said “Therefore, all knowledge from this world is a deception in varying degrees.”
Sooo,,, is that the truth?
Comment by solarain on April 24, 2012 @ 1:24 am
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Do you disagree with that statement?

evike
evike

The bath water is running, so a quick tip.

You started all the arguments, you picked on my comments.

Meditation is being able to post comments without hurling insults, so I would say you are the one who is not in control of your emotions.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

“Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?” — Apostle Paul, Galatians 4:16

angiesolo
angiesolo

I’m a doctor Jim, for heaven’s sake! And Spock….you have to be out of your Vulcan mind!!

Beam me up Scotty! I need a drink at the spacebar.

#justpracticing

positivechange
positivechange

Sounds like the same old……

Huge Water Resource Found in Africa: World Bank Steps In?
Friday, April 20, 2012 – by Staff Report

‘Huge’ water resource exists under Africa … Scientists say the notoriously dry continent of Africa is sitting on a vast reservoir of groundwater. They argue that the total volume of water in aquifers underground is 100 times the amount found on the surface. The team have produced the most detailed map yet of the scale and potential of this hidden resource. Writing in the journal Environmental Research Letters, they stress that large scale drilling might not be the best way of increasing water supplies. Across Africa more than 300 million people are said not to have access to safe drinking water. Demand for water is set to grow markedly in coming decades due to population growth and the need for irrigation to grow crops. – BBC

Dominant Social Theme: Water, water everywhere … it’s a miracle! Who would have thunk …

Free-Market Analysis: We’ve charted this elite meme for several years – water scarcity. The powers-that-be create fear-based scarcity promotions and then propose globalist solutions. Water scarcity is a big promotion for them – and this meme is a central one these days.

Right on schedule, it’s been determined that Africa has water after all. Of course, Western scientists had to make this determination. This is part of the larger “cult of the expert” that the elites seek to inculcate. Until it can be documented by elite facilities, it doesn’t exist.

But now it does. There’s LOTS of water in Africa after all (just as there is LOTS of oil in the world, and lots of food as well, if the powers-that-be would only stop tampering with seeds). Here’s some more from the article:

Now scientists have for the first time been able to carry out a continent-wide analysis of the water that is hidden under the surface in aquifers. Researchers from the British Geological Survey and University College London (UCL) have mapped in detail the amount and potential yield of this groundwater resource across the continent.

Helen Bonsor from the BGS is one of the authors of the paper. She says that up until now groundwater was out of sight and out of mind. She hopes the new maps will open people’s eyes to the potential.

“Where there’s greatest ground water storage is in northern Africa, in the large sedimentary basins, in Libya, Algeria and Chad,” she said.

“The amount of storage in those basins is equivalent to 75m thickness of water across that area – it’s a huge amount.” Due to changes in climate that have turned the Sahara into a desert over centuries many of the aquifers underneath were last filled with water over 5,000 years ago.

The scientists collated their information from existing hydro-geological maps from national governments as well as 283 aquifer studies. The researchers say their new maps indicate that many countries currently designated as “water scarce” have substantial groundwater reserves.

Note the scientists didn’t really discover anything new. They “collated” their findings “from existing hydro-geological maps from national governments as well as 283 aquifer studies.” In other words, it was all a promotion, folks. “Parched Africa” was never more than an elite scarcity campaign. The maps showing plenty of water were there all along.

So what now? Having discovered that Africa has plenty of water, will the private market be left to make its magic? Not so fast.

A simple Internet search shows us that the other shoe may be dropped. That shoe, of course, would be globalist involvement. The whole point of creating scarcity memes is to propose globalist solutions that bring us closer to the world government so avidly sought by the powers-that-be.

Here’s an excerpt from a World Bank report, courtesy of Businessdayonline:

Finance required to raise infrastructure in Sub Saharan Africa to a reasonable level within the next decade is estimated at $93 Billion every year, a World Bank report has shown. The estimates cover the Information Communication Technology, Irrigation, Power, Transport and Water Supply and Sanitation sectors.

Of the total required, existing expenditure is estimated at $45 Billion per annum and after accounting for efficiency gains of $17 Billion, the funding gap remains at about $31Billion. ‘Infrastructure is a cardinal challenge facing Africa, thereby creating room for the inability of Africa to key into the avalanche of economic and commercial opportunities available in the continent,’ says Kenneth Okpara, Commissioner for Economic Planning, Delta State during March Breakfast forum of Nigerian-South African Chamber of Commerce sponsored by Warri Industrial Business Park.

Okpara noted that Africa’s infrastructure stocks and quality is among the least in the world, noting that lack of good governance is a major problem that prevents the continent from taking its rightful place as regards socio-economics. ‘One approach to address this challenge is to facilitate the increase of private provision of Public–Private Partnership (PPP),’ he notes, saying that the partnership assumes transactions where the private sector retains a considerable portion of commercial and financial risks associated with a project.

Okpara added that leveraging private sector financing through public private partnership and capital market (bonds) are the means through which the gap can be addressed.

It is fairly predictable, is it not? Africa suffers from a water problem – that turns out not to exist. But having raised the alarm, Western facilities stand ready to help. Chief among them is the World Bank that will provide much needed cash to reap the benefits of these aquifers, etc.

What may occur is wearily predictable. The World Bank lends cash to corrupt governments that squander or loot resources. The “country” is eventually unable to pay and the IMF arrives to impose “austerity” – including higher taxes and an asset sale.

http://thedailybell.com/3815/Huge-Water-Resource-Found-in-Africa-World-Bank-Steps-In

slogg
slogg

Meditation is being able to post comments without hurling insults, so I would say you are the one who is not in control of your emotions.
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Yeah, and love means never having to say you’re sorry.

Well, i am at a loss for words… Congratulations.

accuchip
accuchip

What do you suppose will happen when the frequencies coming from galactic center change the frequencies here on earth? Ever wonder what happened to all those ‘lost’ civilizations? POOF! upgrade.. lol
Comment by solarain on April 23, 2012 @ 11:19 pm

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Right on POOF! Upgrade!

Apparently though right before the upgrade everybody gets a little testy and starts arguing on the internet 🙂 That way you really notice the contrast when you go from pretending to be smart to actually being smart.

merek

Cafe Aloha…..updated Fukushima news:

Fukushima is falling apart: are you ready?

By Christina Consolo

Contributing writer for End the Lie and host of Nuked Radio

Investigators visiting the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in May 2011 (Image credit: Greg Webb/IAEA)
Thirteen months have passed since the Fukushima reactors exploded, and a U.S. Senator finally got off his ass and went to Japan to see what is going on over there.

What he saw was horrific.

And now he is saying that we are in big trouble.

See the letter he sent to U.S. Ambassador to Japan Ichiro Fujisaki, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and NRC’s Chairman Gregory Jaczko here.

But what is so ironic about this is that we have been in this heap of trouble since March of 2011. March 17th, to be exact, when the plume of radioactive materials began bombarding the west coast of California.

And Oregon. And Washington. And British Columbia. And later Maine, Europe, and everywhere in between.

Independent researchers, nuke experts, and scientists, from oceanography to entomology and everywhere in between, having been trying to sound the alarm ever since.

The scientists most upset are those who have studied the effects of radiation on health. I’ll say it again, so its really clear: we are in big trouble.

The most preliminary reports of soil contamination are starting to come in from the USGS, who has seemed reluctant to share this information. Los Angeles, California, Portland, Oregon, and Boulder, Colorado, so far have the highest radioactive particle contamination out of the entire US.

That being said, every single city tested across the country showed contamination from Fukushima. What is even more alarming, however, about the numbers coming in, is that they are from samples taken April 5th, of last year.

The Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, has only recently confirmed that there were three meltdowns, and they have been ongoing, unabated, for thirteen months, and no effort has been made to contain them.

Technology has to be developed/invented to deal with the melted out corium under the reactors. Until then, they will keep doing what they have been doing.

TEPCO just keeps dumping water on them, after which they let it pour into the ocean, and steam up through the ground, every second of every day. The jet stream, and a highly dynamic portion of our atmosphere called the troposphere, have been swirling around massive amounts of radioactive particles and settling them out, mostly in rain, over the entire northern hemisphere, especially the west coast of North America, from Alaska down to Baja and even further.

Iodine, cesium, strontium, plutonium, uranium, and a host of other fission products have been coming directly from Japan to the west coast for thirteen months.

Maybe you have heard about sick seals, polar bears, tainted fish, mutations in dandelions and fruits and vegetables, possibly even animals already, and seaweed. In fact the kelp from Corona del Mar contained 40,000,000 bcq/kg of radioactive iodine, as reported in Scientific American several weeks ago.

If you don’t know your becquerels, its a lot. That’s what your pacific fish feed on. And that was only ONE isotope reported. There were up to 1600 different isotopes that have been floating around in our air, pouring out of the reactors, and steaming out of the ground, every second of every day, for 13 months.

And there has been silence from our mainstream media, for which the depths of depravity are so severe I will devote an entire article just to the “why” at a future time.

But back to the research: reports in the past week indicate the pollen in southern California is radioactive now too, and it is flying around, and if you live there and go outside, you are breathing it in. And so are your children.

Along with fission products blowing over from Japan. And radiation in your drinking water. And in your rain. And in the fish you are eating. And your vegetables. And the milk supply. And its happening every second, of every day. For 13 months. Are you starting to see a problem here?

Problem is, that’s not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is what Senator Wyden is all bent out of shape about, even though independent researchers and nuke experts have been warning about this for a year.

And that is that the Reactor #4 building is on the verge of collapsing. Seismicity standards rate the building at a zero, meaning even a small earthquake could send it into a heap of rubble. And sitting at the top of the building, in a pool that is cracked, leaking, and precarious even without an earthquake, are 1565 fuel rods (give or take a few), some of them “fresh fuel” that was ready to go into the reactor on the morning of March 11th when the earthquake and tsunami hit.

If they are MOX fuel, containing 6% plutonium, one fuel rod has the potential to kill 2.89 billion people. If this pool collapses, as Senator Wyden is now saying too, we would face a mass extinction event from the release of radiation in those rods.

That is, if we aren’t in one already. Nuke experts like Arnie Gundersen and Helen Caldicott are prepared to evacuate their families to the southern hemisphere if that happens. It is that serious.

So now you know, if you didn’t before. We are in big trouble.

Get informed. Start paying attention to this. Every single statement in this article is verifiable, and I will continue to verify and validate the seriousness of this situation at every opportunity I have.

This may be the most important thing you ever pay attention to, for the sake of your family, friends, your neighbors, every one you know and meet, all of humanity.

It’s been thirteen months, you have some catching up to do.

Please help Christina purchase a spectrometer in order to get the most accurate radiation readings and thus get you the most precise information possible by shopping through her Amazon link or donate directly via PayPal to fukushimafacts@gmail.com. Keep in mind, this is expensive equipment and it is the only way that specific isotope readings can be obtained from food items.

Minor editing by Madison Ruppert

Christina Consolo is a former clinical researcher supervisor with NIH credentialing; a former Member-at-Large for the Board of Directors, Ophthalmic Photographers’ Society; A peer reviewer for the Journal of Ophthalmic Photography; She has written, published, and contributed to numerous scientific research in retinal imaging and ophthalmogy for the past 24 years; She is also an award-winning biomedical photographer and maintains several websites to teach people about radiation, mitigation, and other nuclear issues. She is also the host of “Nuked Radio” Tuesdays & Thursdays from 12-1:00 pm EST on the Orion Talk Radio Network.

For more info including mitigation for radiation exposure, please visit FukushimaFacts.com, where you can sign up to receive Fallout Forecasts on Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter.

More at EndtheLie.com – http://EndtheLie.com/2012/04/21/fukushima-is-falling-apart-are-you-ready/#ixzz1sshmUdId
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Recommend that those who are able plant a green house,
triple pane glass in the colder north, single pane glass in the south, even a light 2X4 built, temporary visquene green house,
can protect your veggie greens from contamination.
it can also protect against contamination through rain fall or serious heating or cooling due to rapid weather changes.

If you use soil, rake off the top foot of soil and use the
deeper uncontamionated for grow boxes, you may also utilize Hydroponics as growth medium. I prefer soil grown as Hydroponics require mineral additions from elsewhere and likely as not to be contaminated.
Also a cheap surplus dosesymeter/ radiation detector can be a life and health protecting purchase (google Amazon for used units the older Rad measuring surplus units are cheap and you can translate from Rads to becquerals with the conversion tables I recently posted. Glass covered window boxes can suffice for gardening in the city .

rllstar
rllstar

Darylluke:

I really like Drake, too! Am listening to yesterday’s archive now.

zantor
zantor

Every Breath You Take, The Federal Reserve Cover

Posted by AMERICAN KABUKI at 2:31 AM Monday, April 23, 2012

http://americankabuki.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/every-breath-you-take-federal-reserve.html

solarain
solarain

@pvg, first you say “Truth does not vary, if it is truth.”

Then you say “Therefore, all knowledge from this world is a deception in varying degrees.”

I agree…
(insert cross eyed emoticon here)

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 12:32 am

Interesting point, I had not thought to analyze the writings here in cafe for the presence of practices of occult[hidden undisclosed] preternatural influences.

Now that I have noticed this let me identify some spell casting that has occurred that I can now observe. I have been guilty of 1 and 2 multiple times in my recent life too I know that and i confess that at the moment it has been due to anawareness in the moment however. I am simply sharing this for anyone who would like to apply any of these observations to their personal practices/avoidances. I look forward to the day when I will be perfect don’t think its in this lifetime though 😉

1. Anytime a person declares to another ‘You should’ they are implying a mild to strong level of pushing i.e., coercion on the mind of the other who the declaration is directed to. So much for many who popularly proclaim ‘Law of Allowance’ via their own tongues and pens.

2. Shavi had also properly identified ‘black magic’ usage inside this forum when he/she used to be active here. Shav stated something to the effect of – Seeking a specific outcome in another through a hidden undisclosed means.

3. DL also called out the use of the occult on his Person in this very specific instance and sent it back from whence it came. IMO some graces may disappear from one until they close up the door/gate and make amends directly to the harmed/damaged party.
Merek this is wholly my current interpretation of your most recent publicly related RV episode since you did not first have explicit permission from DL and from my POV I would address this type of thing to one if I had done this. DL this does not mean I like your blurts here in cafe it is just one single observation on one point only.

wovolve42
wovolve42

Comment by angiesolo on April 24, 2012 @ 1:40 am

Angiesolo- your star trek reference…Im LMAO…

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by accuchip on April 24, 2012 @ 1:43 am

“Right on POOF! Upgrade!

Apparently though right before the upgrade everybody gets a little testy and starts arguing on the internet That way you really notice the contrast when you go from pretending to be smart to actually being smart.”

Lol, nice way of putting it accuchip.

slogg
slogg

Seeking a specific outcome in another through a hidden undisclosed means. (attribution to Shiva)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TimThomas… very astute. Bring in ritual and repetition… well, there are many avenues employed by the craft.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@pvg, first you say “Truth does not vary, if it is truth.”
Then you say “Therefore, all knowledge from this world is a deception in varying degrees.”
I agree…
(insert cross eyed emoticon here)
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Truth is not found in the world system. It is found in a Person, Jesus Christ who created all things, and in whom rests all Judgment, Authority, Rule, and Dominion. We see through a clouded lens when trying to interpret truth.

solarain
solarain

@pvg “Truth is not found in the world system. It is found in a Person, Jesus Christ who created all things, and in whom rests all Judgment, Authority, Rule, and Dominion. We see through a clouded lens when trying to interpret truth.”

Ok, I’m gonna pull a Wanda…. pvg, any proof that this ‘person’ you call jesus christ created all things?

slogg
slogg

pvg…

We are challenged to see past illusion… we are to seek the truth.

Our enemy uses deception at every turn. I think it contingent on all of us to learn what comes from our enemy, what they wish us to believe. They cleverly mix truths in with their lies… it is for us to decide which is truth in their words and what is belied by their actions and goals.

They want us believing channeled information… they want to bring a world government based on threat of alien invasion… that, for me, is why i demand proof. They want to put forth their fake new world religion… can’t we see that for what it is?

There is truth, it is knowable. It will only be when we wrest our world back from these controllers that we will be able to discern truth in an open and free manner.

slogg
slogg

Pull a Wanda… that’s funny… and i’m not offended by it 🙂

evike
evike

Had the bath, but I have to make the tea (evening meal) now
but just to clarify your comment.

Yeah, and love means never having to say you’re sorry.

Well, i am at a loss for words… Congratulations.
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 1:43 am

“Yeah, and love means never having to say you’re sorry.”

This does not apply to people who hurl insults more than once, (people have feelings) or to people you do not really know.

If a stranger knocks into you whilst you are walking in the street shopping etc., surely you would expect him to say sorry.

I should think it applies more to loved ones, meaning wife, husband , children, close relatives etc., in your life, because they understand each others characteristics, and there are moments when things can be said in haste. Some men/women cannot say sorry, but they make up for it up in other ways.

The best thing to do, is never put yourself in a position where you might have to say sorry.

So please don’t take it out of context.

kodo
kodo

Drake ain’t no fake.

solarain
solarain

I mean, that’s an awfully humongous task for a gay guy wearing sandals… don’t you think?

Or does the jesus mythology make more sense if you look at jesus being the sun and the twelve disciples being the zodiac? Doesn’t that make more sense, are you telling me you are still buying into the oldest form of brainwashing? geesh

btw, I thought you were Jewish, don’t you people believe in the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker?

bcsolanki
bcsolanki

I have posted the latest Friday Road Trip for paid Private Road Members here:

http://www.roadtoroota.com/members/871.cfm

It is amazing how everything is coming into line with the Road to Roota Theory and the specifics are being laid out on how it is “planned” to go down. Of course, nobody knows for sure and it is bound to be a very bumpy ride but it IS HAPPENING!

Be safe out there.

May the Road you choose be the Right Road. Bix Weir
http://www.RoadtoRoota.com

To sign up for the Private Road click here:
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/10.cfm

zantor
zantor

Special Interested EXPOSED! ‘Governments Gone Wild’ vid

Posted By: Maryhrt
Date: Monday, 23-Apr-2012 13:12:39

An absolute must watch. Short and sweet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=237661

http://governmentgonewild.com

kodo
kodo

Poop, there it is.

kodo
kodo

I do not seek the truth. Why seek something so illusive? I do not seek anything. Things just reveal themselves to me.

zantor
zantor

US wades into China-Philippine standoff

By Al Labita Apr 24, 2012

MANILA – China has beefed up its naval might around the Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea, threatening a clash as the United States and Philippines hold joint military exercises in the vicinity of the potentially energy rich disputed maritime territory.

In a show of force, a state-of-the-art Chinese vessel, the Yuzheng 310, is now on patrol near the Scarborough Shoal, raising the strategic ante as its maritime standoff with the Philippines heads into a second week. Certain news reports have suggested as many as five other Chinese patrol vessels are now in the area.

In contrast, a lone US-made Philippine Coast Guard ship
remains on alert in a lopsided faceoff with the Chinese fleet, while Manila’s other warships joined the two-week joint drills, known as Balikatan (shoulder to shoulder) the US is leading near the contested islands.

The US has deployed 4,500 marines, the bulk of them from its military base in Okinawa, Japan, and battleships in the biggest contingent since the joint war games began in 1983…”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/ND24Ae01.html

solarain
solarain

When one person is delusional it is called insanity.

When many people are delusional it is called religion.

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News April 23rd, 2012

Breaking: Dutch Government Resigns Over Budget Crisis

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2012/04/23/breaking-dutch-government-resigns-over-budget-crisis/

611 Worldwide Banker Resignations

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2012/04/23/611-worldwide-banker-resignations/

Aisha North: The Manuscript of Survival – Part 124

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2012/04/23/aisha-north-the-manuscript-of-survival-part-124/

Top 7 Natural Remedies to Reduce Cholesterol Levels

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2012/04/23/top-7-natural-remedies-to-reduce-cholesterol-levels/

+ Be Well +

Truth

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Now here’s a different take on the ten commandments.

Paper Money Violates All Ten Commandments

http://silverstockreport.com/email/commandments.html

1. Paper money debt enslaves you to something other than God.
2. Valuing paper money is an act of idolatry.
3. “In God we trust” takes the Lord’s name in vain.
4. The sabbath debt forgiveness times are ignored.
(the Vatican seriously diluted this one along with modern Protestants/churchianity in tow.)
5. Lack of honest standards dishonors our parents.
6. Paper money has funded mass murder; two world wars.
7. Lenders, usurers, are committing spiritual adultery.
8. Paper money and banking is institutionalized theft.
9. Paper money requires a mountain of false testimony.
10. Paper money is supported by greed and covetousness.

slogg
slogg

I do not seek the truth. Why seek something so illusive? I do not seek anything. Things just reveal themselves to me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think the word you want is elusive. Seek truth because the truth will set you free. And, anything that is elusive, is had to find… that makes it rare, and rarity makes it valuable… like gold(?)… well, like alchemical gold.

slogg
slogg

is hard to find… not had to find.

evike
evike

Silarian, you might find this interesting, but you might know it already, as I do not know what you already know, you clever little chu chu face.

The UNIVERSAL GUARDIAN ALLIANCE (GA) / COUNCILS

The GA represents a smaller, specialized group, and primary task force, within a greater Guardian Organization called the Inter-dimensional Associations of Free Worlds. created 568 million years ago after the Angelic Wars. The GA is a co-operative organization through which an enormous variety of different interstellar, multi-dimensional and inter-time species and races work together to assist in the evolution of developing cultures throughout the multi-dimensional universe. Their mission is to protect and insure that species discover and fulfill their genetic plan of true spiritual enlightenment and multidimensional heritage as they were intended. Many members of the GA appear to be quite human, but they possess knowledge and abilities far beyond conventional human development.

This piece of the article is about half was down…

evike
evike
positivechange
positivechange

You will know the truth by listening to your heart

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes

I like what I hear from Drake and am ready for “something” as opposed to nothing being done…

Nothing gives us what we have…

If this is attached to something worse… what it is is an end game for Luciferianism where the GLOBAL MUSCLE… the USA…. is splintered and weakened like they did to Russia… THERE is bound to be a powerful entity out there still pulling the strings…

Luciferianism is the good cop to satanism’s bad cop…

If you don’t like those words let’s use sportlike names…

The World Dragons versus the Global Snakes…

The point has been the strategy was written centuries ago through such thinkers as HG Wells and the Fabian society…

Each collective was always meant to have a shelf life and there has always been a good cop and bad cop twin to that collective…

For example

a Yin and Yang to every power struggle such as Boston Mob versus New York mob or Southern mob versus Northern…

Or Islam versus Christianity…

or Torah versus Talmud

Black versus white

etc.

And when the time came, to throw the switch of chaos and have the good cop throw the bad cop under the bus…

Part of the plan, after 911 and Katrina and the mortgage crisis and the occupy wall street and the fanning of the illegal aliens etc. was to spark nation wide rioting and killing…

but it didn’t happen…

Plan failed…

Too much fluoride and TV? Over medicated and sedated and too broke and tired? Quite possible…

Then we heard all the other parts of the HG Wells science based mind ops of alien invasions and asteroids etc.

So if you are the elite ruler of the world and you made several miscalculations including the INTERNET…

The internet was meant to spy upon but the grey haired men didn’t understand the two way street mass implication of millions using it to spread info… (Someone understood — was it the White Hats of military?)

Ask yourself why have we had so much available to us like the money masters and Loose Change and other significant wake up calls…? It was top of google and readily available…

Was it to be part of us rioting or was it to prepare us?

All major plans usually have contingencies, plan B or C or D…

(I believe the Cheney/Bush/Clinton mercenaries don’t have contingencies because they are going by the seat of their pants)

So…

Did the top of the pyramid come to a contingency plan?

Wouldn’t it be more prudent to do this?

Allow “the people” the daily grinders to stay and the criminal predator class to go…

But only to a certain level…

Upper middle management of psycho incorporated gone…

The top level… the head… will stay and grow a new middle…torso…

Will they give back the huge control grid that will cement their power?

Hell no… that will stay…

Imagine working for a huge company with terrible bosses that get replaced by nicer bosses who slowly become less nice as time goes on due to the increasing pressure of the buck stopping there and the shit rolls downhill theory…

so we will have a GRACE PERIOD of a better world on a surface level…

But the slave grid will not be dismantled rather camouflaged for a while…

SUMMARY

The only power we have is to be able to dissect the big picture and not be useful idiots… to not dance silly victory dances when no victory was achieved, the victory was plan D as handed to you by the same elite that has run the world for a long time and could have ended suffering a long time ago…

Imagine a ruling entity that offered an honest deal a long time ago…and it said, we own the entire world and power structure and we can squash you or we will give you a pleasant life in exchange for a certain amount of work and cooperation…

Most who were starving in deserts and being bombed would have taken that deal…

most who weren’t would still have taken that deal…

and that is basically the deal we are getting now… being offered…

but they brought us and the environment to its knees first… so… I personally feel they could have done this without the last 150 years of war horrors and millions murdered… by simply explaining their power honestly…

But by deception we shall rule is what we have been given and I resent that as should everyone… but to each his own… if you like kissing your oppressors ass that is your business…

This brings me back to DRAKE….

It is highly possible the good guy collective Drake speaks of is exactly what he describes it to be… a good guy collective…but that does not eliminate that their will still be a head to this planet who skillfully allowed everything to get to this point…

and that that HEAD decided why not allow this good guy freedom loving patriot group have what they want…. it can still be controlled without heavy handedness and isn’t it better for the masses to choose their level of
being dominated that constantly struggling against it?

Essentially sociopaths and psychopaths that were offered upper middle management ruthless CEO positions for the last century will be deservedly thrown to the lions….

the upper level….The Luciferian good cop always understood this… they always had contingency plans…

The World Dragons and The Global Snakes was a fixed world series and the snakes were always set to lose…

****

I don’t believe Drake or the good guy collective are part of the BIG PICTURE conspiracy…. I think they are being “allowed” to usher in this new era…

and once the arrests happen and the world snuggles in to a better ideology….

we may still see some of the HG Wells ideas come later… or not… it is hard to say what the true nature of the Luciferian good cop is…

Lucifer wants to be worshipped as the God he defied… Whether you believe that or not the point is these are the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows…. The rulers believed it…

So as an individual I support the good guy collective… but I don’t think any of us should be so naive as to believe that this is happening without it being ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

evike
evike

“The NSA Is Lying”: U.S. Government Has Copies Of Most Of Your Emails Says NSA Whistleblower

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2060/978/The_NSA_Is_Lying_:_U.S._Government_Has_Copies_Of_Most_Of_Your_Emails_Says_NSA_Whistleblower.html

Published on Apr 20, 2012 by democracynow

DemocracyNow.org – National Security Agency whistleblower William Binney reveals he believes domestic surveillance has become more expansive under President Obama than President George W. Bush. He estimates the NSA has assembled 20 trillion “transactions” — phone calls, emails and other forms of data — from Americans. This likely includes copies of almost all of the emails sent and received from most people living in the United States. Binney talks about Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act and challenges NSA Director Keith Alexander’s assertion that the NSA is not intercepting information about U.S. citizens.

To watch the complete daily, independent news hour, read the transcript, download the podcast, and for more information, visit http://www.democracynow.org/

with a 14 minutes video

slogg
slogg

That is balls on Geno. Only one or two minor points i would refute, inconsequential in scope.

beatbox151
beatbox151

The Third Gun
New book claims FBI cover up of third gun in murder of border patrol agent

http://freebeacon.com/third-smoking-gun-in-fast-and-furious/

The Department of Justice is using the liberal “watchdog” group Media Matters for America to deflect questions about the Fast and Furious scandal, including those regarding a gun that might have been used in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

A new book raises questions as to whether the FBI hid the existence of a weapon recovered at the scene of murdered U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. Conservative commentator and author Katie Pavlich lays out evidence she says points to a FBI cover-up to protect a confidential informant in her recently released book, Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-up,

In response to an inquiry from the Free Beacon, a Justice Department spokeswoman said in an email that she “was told to direct your questions to the FBI, and also to provide you with a link to this story: http://mediamatters.org/research/201204190011”

The link was to a story at the George Soros-funded Media Matters for America supposedly refuting many of Pavlich’s claims. Media Matters is a partisan organization whose founder, David Brock, is also running a pro-Obama super PAC.

bcsolanki
bcsolanki

Ron Paul was the Guest Host on CNBC this morning and you can tell that he’s on his game. The questions were what the mainstream loves to challenge Ron on but he hits every challenge out of the park!

Ron Paul Nails It!
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/875.cfmAnd YES…we’re still on track in the Good Guy Election Strategy

May the road you choose be the Right Road.

Bix Weir
http://www.RoadtoRoota.com

wbstreck
wbstreck

Ben , Drake, John McHaffie and Ya’All .

Lest we forget, let’s review the criminal activity surrounding our current dilemma regarding NESARA

History and true story of NESARA……Long read but well worth it

This change began in the mid 1970’s, when the Federal Land Bank illegally foreclosed on farmers mortgages all throughout the Midwest. In each of these cases the farmers were defrauded by the banks with the approval of the Federal Reserve System. These court cases would eventually become known as the farmer claims program.
In 1978 an elderly ranch farmer in Colorado purchased a farm with loan from the Federal Land Bank; after he died the property was passed on to his son Roy Schwasinger Jr., who was a retired military general. Soon after a Federal Land Bank officer and Federal Marshall appeared on his property and informed him the bank was foreclosing on his farm and to vacate within 30 days. Without his knowledge, his deceased father signed a stipulation which reverted the property back to the Federal Land Bank in the event of the borrower’s death.
Outraged, Roy Schwasinger filed a class action lawsuit in the Denver Federal Court system. But the case didn’t go very far and the suit was dismissed from filing incorrectly. This began Roy Schwasinger’s investigation into the inner workings of the banking system. In 1982 he was given a contract by the US senate and later Supreme Court to investigate banking fraud. But because he was under a strict non-disclosure order he was not allowed to tell the media what he discovered. In the late 80s he began sharing his knowledge with others including high ranking military personnel who helped him bring about a class action lawsuit against the federal government.
The first series of these lawsuits began in the mid 1980’s when William and Shirley Baskerville of Fort Collins, Colorado were involved in a bankruptcy case with First Interstate Bank of Fort Collins; who was trying to foreclose on their farm. At a restaurant their lawyer informed them that he would no longer be able to help them and walked-off. Overhearing the conversation Roy Schwasinger offered his advice on how to appeal the case in bankruptcy court. So in 1987 they filed an appeal (Case No. 87-C-716) with the United States District Court in Colorado.
On November 3, 1988, the Denver Federal Court system ruled that indeed the banks had defrauded the Baskervilles and proceeded to reverse its bankruptcy decision. But when the foreclosed property was not returned they filed a new lawsuit. Eventually, 23 other farmers, ranchers, and Indians swindled by the banks in the same manner would join in the case.
In these cases, the banks were foreclosing on the properties using fraudulent methods such as charging exorbitant interest, illegal foreclosure, or by not crediting mortgage payments to their account as they should have but instead would steal the mortgage payments for themselves triggering foreclosure on the property. After running out of money they continued their fight without the help of lawyers. With some assistance by the Farmers Union a new lawsuit was filed against the Federal Land Bank and the Farmers Credit System.
(1) Case No. 92-C-1781
The District Court ruled in their favor and ordered the banks to return the stolen properties with help from either Federal Marshals or the National Guard. But when no payments were made, the farmers declared involuntary Chapter Seven Bankruptcy against the Federal Land Bank and the Farmers Credit System. The banks appealed their case insisting they were not a business but a federal agency therefore they were not liable to pay the damages.
So the farmer’s legal team adopted a new strategy. According to the Federal Land Bank’s 1933 charter they are not allowed to make loans directly to applicants, but instead could only back loans as a guarantor in case of default. Because the Federal Land Bank had violated this rule the farmer’s legal team was able to successfully sue the bank for damages.
Word of the lawsuit began to spread; the legal team would teach others how to fight foreclosure and to help them file lawsuits as well (Case No. 93-1308-M). Celebrities such as Willie Nelson joined in the cause and helped raise money during his “Farm Aid” concerts. Here is short clip of Willie Nelson describing in his own words the series of events leading up to the farmer claims legal case……
The Baskerville case had now become the Farmer Claims Class Action Lawsuit. Worried about the legal ramifications the government retaliated against the farmers by hitting them with either outrageous IRS fees, or by imprisoning the legal team under frivolous nonrelated charges. When the farmers realized they were being unfairly targeted, they had military generals such as General Roy Schwasinger sit in the courtroom to make sure the bribed judges would vote according to constitutional law.
The farmers now with a large team of knowledgeable people of the law behind them filed a new case to claim additional damages from the fraudulent loaning activities of the Farmers Credit System.
The government tried to settle but they had already lost many cases and were now loosing the appeals as well. More and more evidence was collected. According to the National Banking Act all banks are required to register their charters with the Federal and State Bureau of Records, but none of the banks complied, allowing the legal team to sue the Farmers Credit System. Not only was Farmers Credit System not chartered to do business with the American Banking Association, but so were other quasi government organizations such as the Federal Housing Administration, The Department of Housing and Urban Development, and even the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Farmers Claims lawsuit was thrown out of court at each level with the records purposely destroyed. So in the early 1990’s Roy Schwasinger brought the case before the United States Supreme Court. Some of the content of this case is sealed from public eyes but most of it can be viewed today.
Almost (u-nan-ah-mous-ly) unanimously the U.S. Supreme Court Justices ruled that the Farmers Union claims were indeed VALID, therefore, all property foreclosed by the Farmers Credit System was illegal and all those who were foreclosed on would have to receive damages. In addition, they ruled that the U.S. federal government and banks had defrauded the farmers, and all U.S. citizens, out of vast sums of money and property.
And furthermore, the court ruled the shocking truth that the IRS was a Puerto Rican Trust and that the Federal Reserve was unlawful, that the income tax amendment was only ratified by four states and therefore was not a legal amendment, that the IRS code was not enacted into “Positive Law”* within the Code of Federal Regulations, and how the U.S. government illegally foreclosed on farmer’s homes with help from federal agencies.
*Positive Law
Laws that have been enacted by a properly instituted and recognized branch of the government.
Irrefutable proof was presented by a retired CIA agent. He provided testimony and records of the banks illegal activities, to lead further evidence that the Farmers’ Union claims were indeed legitimate. The implications of such a decision were profound. All gold, silver, and property titles, taken by the Federal Reserve and IRS must be returned to the people.
The legal team sought assistance from a small group of benevolent visionaries, consisting of politicians, military generals, and business people who have been secretly working to restore the constitution since the mid 1950’s. Somehow within their ranks, a four star U.S. army general received “title” and “receiver” of the original 1933 United States Bankruptcy.
When the case was brought before the U.S. Supreme Court, they ruled in his favor, giving the Army General title over the United States, Inc. Legal action was then passed on to the Senate Finance Committee and Senator Sam Nunn, who was working with Roy Schwasinger. With the help of covert congressional and political pressure, President George H.W. Bush issued an Executive Order (a) on Oct. 23, 1991, which provided a provision allowing anyone who has a claim against the federal government to receive payment as long as it’s within the rules of the original format of the case.
(a) Executive Order No. 12778 Principles of Ethical Conduct for Government Officers and Employees; October 23, 1991
According to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, all present and succeeding debts against the U.S. Treasury must be assumed by the Federal Reserve. Thus the famer’s claims legal team was able to use that executive order to not only force the Federal Reserve to pay out damages in a gold backed currency but also allow them to receive legal ownership over the bankruptcy of United States, Inc.
To collect damages the farmers legal team used an obscure attachment to the 14th amendment which most people are not aware of. After the civil war the government allowed citizens to claim a payment on anyone who suffered damages as a result of the Federal Government failing to protect its citizens from harm or damages by a foreign government. President Grant had this attachment sealed from public eyes but somehow, someone the farmer’s legal team got a hold of it.
If you listened to that carefully, it specifies damages by a foreign government. That foreign government is the corporate federal government which has been masquerading to the public as the constitutional government. Remember this goes back to the Organic Act of 1871 and the Trading with the Enemies Act of 1933, which defined all citizens as enemy combatants under the federal system known as the United States. The Justices and farmer’s legal team recognized how evil and corrupt our federal government had become and to counteract this they added some provisions in the settlement to bring the government back under control.
a. First they would have to be paid using a lawful currency, backed by gold and silver as the constitution dictates. This would eliminate inflation and gyrating economic cycles created by the Federal Reserve System.
b. Second they would be required to go back to common law instead of admiralty law under the gold fringe flags. Under common law if there is no damage or harm done then there is no violation of the law. This would eliminate millions of laws which are used to control the masses and protect corrupt politicians.
c. Lastly the IRS would have to be dismantled and replaced with a national sales tax. This is the basis of the NESARA Law.
When the legal team finally settled on a figure, each individual would receive an average of $20 million dollars payout per claim. Multiplied by a total of 336,000 claims that were filed against the U.S. Federal Government, the total payout would come out to a staggering $6.6 trillion dollars.
The U.S. Supreme Court placed a gag order on the case, struck all information from the Federal Registry, and placed all records in the Supreme Court files. Up to that point Senator Sam Nunn had kept the Baskerville Case records within his office. A settlement was agreed to out of court and the decision was sealed by Janet Reno. Because the case was sealed, claimants are not allowed to share court documents to media outlets without violating the settlement, but they can still tell others about the lawsuit. This is why you probably have not heard about this.
In 1991 Roy Schwasinger went before a senate committee to present evidence of the banks and governments criminal activity. He informed them how the Corporation of the United States was tied to the establishment of a New World Order which would bring about a fascist one world government ruled by the international bankers. So in 1992 a task force was put together consisting of over 300 retired and 35 active US military officers who strongly supported constitutional law.* This task force was responsible for investigating governmental officials, congressional officers, judges, and the Federal Reserve.
*Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Jeremy Boorda
*General David McCloud
*Former Director of Central Intelligence, William Colby
They uncovered the common practice of bribery and extortion committed by both senators and judges. The criminal activity was so rampant that only 2 out of 535 members of congress were deemed honest. But more importantly they carried out the first ever audit of the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve was used to giving orders to politicians and had no intentions of being audited. However after they were informed their offices would be raided under military gunpoint if necessary; they complied with the investigation. After reviewing their files the military officers found $800 trillion dollars sitting in accounts which should have been applied to the national debt. And contrary to federal government propaganda they also discovered that most nations had in fact owed money to the United States instead of the other way around.
These hidden trillions were then confiscated and placed into European bank accounts in order to generate the enormous funds needed to pay the farmers claims class action lawsuit, later this money would become the basis of the prosperity programs.
Despite these death blows President George H.W. Bush and the illuminati continued on with their plans of global enslavement.
In August 1992 the military officers confronted President Bush and demanded he sign agreement that he would return the United States to constitutional law and ordered him to never use the term New World Order again. Bush pretended to cooperate but secretly planned to bring about the New World Order anyway by signing an Executive Order on December 25, 1992, that would have indefinitely closed all banks giving Bush an excuse to declare martial law.
Under the chaos of martial law, Bush intended to install a new constitution which would have kept everyone currently in office in their same position for 25 years and it would have removed all rights to elect new officials. The military intervened and stopped Bush from signing that Executive order.
In 1993 members of the Supreme Court, certain members of congress and representatives from the Clinton government meet with high ranking US military officers who were demanding a return to constitutional law, reforms of the banking system, and financial redress. They agreed to create the farm claims process which would allow the legal team to set up meetings all over the country on a grass roots level to help others file claims and to educate them about the lawsuit.
A claim of harm could be made on any loan issued by a financial institution for all interest paid; foreclosures; attorney and court fees; IRS taxes or liens; real estate and property taxes; mental and emotional stress caused by the loss of property; stress related illness such as suicide and divorce; and even warrants, incarceration, and probation could also be claimed.
But the Clinton government undermined their efforts by requiring the farm claims to use a specific form designed by the government. This form imposed an administrative fee of $300 for each claim, which was later used in 1994 as a basis to arrest the leaders of the legal team including Roy Schwasinger.
The government was so afraid of what they would say during their trial in Michigan that extra steps were taken to conceal the true nature of the case. County courthouse employees were not allowed to work between Monday and Thursday during the course of the trial. And outside the courthouse, FBI agents swarmed the perimeter preventing the media and visitors from learning what was going on as well.
Harassment and retaliation by the government increased, many where sent prison or murdered while incarcerated. Despite being protected by his military personnel the army general who acquired the original 1933 Title of Bankruptcy of the United States; was imprisoned, killed, and replaced with a clone. This clone was then used as a decoy to prevent any further claims from being filed.
During the first Clinton administration the military delayed many of Clinton’s federal appointments until they were sure these individuals would help restore constitutional law. One such individual who promised to bring about the necessary changes was Attorney General Janet Reno.
In agreement with the Supreme Court ruling on June 3, 1993, Janet Reno ordered the Delta Force and Navy Seals to Switzerland, England, and Israel to recapture trillions of dollars of gold stolen by the Federal Reserve System from the strategic gold reserves. These nations cooperated with the raid because they were promised their debts owed to the United States would be canceled and because the people who stole the money from the United States also stole money from their nations as well.
This bullion is to be used for the new currency backed by precious metals. It’s now safely stockpiled at the Norad Complex at Colorado Springs, Colorado and four other repositories. Janet Reno’s action so enraged the powers-that-be, that it resulted in her death. She was then replaced with a clone and it was this creature that was responsible for covering-up the various Clinton scandals.
To keep the Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Robert Rubin in line, he too was also cloned. For the remainder of their term in office both Reno and Rubin received their salaries from the International Monetary Fund as foreign agents and not from the U.S. Treasury. Despite these actions the legal team continued on with their fight while managing to avoid bloodshed and a major revolution.
After 1993 the farmer claims process name was changed to Bank Claims. Between 1993 and 1996, the U.S. Supreme Court required U.S. citizens to file “Bank Claims” to collect damages paid by the U.S. Treasury Department. This process CLOSED in 1996.
During this time the U.S. Supreme Court assigned one or more Justices to monitor the progress of the rulings. They enlisted help of experts in economics, monetary systems, banking, constitutional government and law, and many other related areas. These justices built coalitions of support and assistance with thousands of people worldwide; known as ‘White Knights”. The term ‘White Knights’ was borrowed from the world of big business. It refers to a vulnerable company that is rescued by a corporation or a wealthy person from a hostile takeover.
To implement the required changes, the five Justices spent years negotiating how the reformations would occur. Eventually they settled on certain agreements, also known as ‘Accords’, with the U.S. government, the Federal Reserve Bank owners, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and with numerous other countries including the United Kingdom and countries of the Euro Zone. Because these U.S. banking reformations will impact the entire world; the IMF, World Bank, and other countries had to be involved. The reformations require that the Federal Reserve be absorbed by the U.S. Treasury Department and the banks’ fraudulent activities must be stopped and payment must be made for past harm.
In 1998, the military generals who originally participated in the famer’s claim process realized that the US Supreme Court justices had no intentions of implementing the ‘Accords.’ So they decided the only way to implement the reformations was through a law passed by congress. In 1999 a 75 page document known as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act (NESARA) was submitted to congress where it sat with little action for almost a year.
Late one evening on March 9, 2000, a written quorum call was hand-delivered by Delta Force and Navy SEALs to 15 members of the US Senate and the US House who were sponsors and co-sponsors of NESARA. They were immediately escorted by the Delta Force and Navy SEALs to their respective voting chambers where they passed the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.
These 15 members of congress were the only people lawfully allowed to hold office in accordance with the original 13th amendment. Remember British soldiers destroyed copies of the Titles of Nobility Amendment (TONA) in the war of 1812 because it prevented anyone who had ties to the crown of England from holding public office.
NESARA is the most ground breaking reformation to sweep not only this country but our planet in its entire history. The act does away with the Federal Reserve Bank, the IRS, the shadow government, and much more.
NESARA implements the following changes:
1. Zeros out all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. This is the Federal Reserve’s worst nightmare, a “jubilee” or a forgiveness of debt.
2. Abolishes the income tax
3. Abolishes the IRS. Employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area.
4. Creates a 14% flat rate non-essential ‘new items only’ sales tax revenue for the government. In other words food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.
5. Increases benefits to senior citizens
6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.
7. Reinstates the original Title of Nobility amendment. Hundreds of thousands of Americans under the control of foreign powers will lose their citizenship, be deported to other countries, and barred from reentry for the remainder of their life. And millions of people will soon discover their college degrees are now worthless paper.
8. Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA’s announcement. The intern government will cancel all “National Emergencies” and return us back to constitutional law.
9. Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups.
10. Creates a new U.S. Treasury, ‘rainbow currency,’ backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals, ending the bankruptcy of the United States initiated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933.
11. Forbids the sale of American birth certificate records as chattel property bonds by the US Department of Transportation.
12. Initiates new U.S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law
13. Eliminates the Federal Reserve System. During the transition period the Federal Reserve will be allowed to operate side by side of the U.S. treasury for one year in order to remove all Federal Reserve notes from the money supply.
14. Restores financial privacy
15. Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law
16. Ceases all aggressive, U.S. government military actions worldwide
17. Establishes peace throughout the world
18. Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes
19. Enables the release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies that are being withheld from the public under the guise of national security, including free energy devices, antigravity, and sonic healing machines.
Because President Clinton’s clone had no interest in signing NESARA into law on October 10, 2000; under orders from U.S. military generals the elite Naval Seals and Delta Force stormed the White House and under gunpoint forced Bill Clinton to sign NESARA. During this time Secret Service and White House security personnel were ordered to stand down, disarmed, and allowed to witness this event under a gag order.
From its very inception Bush Sr., the corporate government, major bank houses, and the Carlyle group have opposed NESARA. To maintain secrecy, the case details and the docket number were sealed and revised within the official congressional registry, to reflect a commemorative coin and then again it was revised even more recently. This is why there are no public Congressional Records and why a search for this law will not yield the correct details until after the reformations are made public.
You probably never heard of this law due to an extremely strict gag order placed upon politicians, media personnel, and bank officers. Even though Alex Jones or Ron Paul will not tell you about it, the law is still valid.
And members of congress will not tell us any of this because they have been ordered by the U.S. Supreme Court Justices to ‘deny’ the existence of NESARA or face charges of treason punishable by death. Some members of Congress have actually been charged with ‘obstruction.’ When Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone was about to break the gag order, but before he could, his small passenger plane crashed killing his wife, daughter, and himself.
If fear isn’t enough to keep congress in line, money is. The CIA routinely bribes senators with stolen loot from the bank roll programs. Every senator has been bribed with a minimum of $200 million dollars deposited in a Bank of America account in Canada. You will never hear the media networks report about NESARA. To maintain silence, major news networks such as CNN are paid in the tune of $2 billion dollars annually. Some of this loot is funneled by the Mormon Church in Utah through Senator Orin Hatch’s office and Bank of America.
Not only is congress bribed but the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff and upper tier of the government including the president receives these payments as well. Only the Provost Marshall has the lawful authority to arrest these individuals, but sadly he won’t do his job either. It seems the United State military is full of pencil pushing politicians who care more about advancement then doing their job.
And not surprisingly, much disinformation about NESARA can be found on the internet. Prominent nay-sayers include quatloos.com, which is rumored to be a CIA front; nesara.org which is maintained by the Bush family; Sherry Shriner; and various Internet channelers receiving their messages from telepathic spooks have all contributed to the confusion.
Even the information on Wikipedia is in error. Wikipedia gives you the history of CIA agent Harvey Barnard’s NESARA law. If you look closely, this law stands for National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, which would have made reforms to the economy and replace the income tax with a national sales tax. This law was rejected by congress in the 1990’s. But there is little mention of the National Economic Security and Reformation Act on Wikipedia or its ramifications.
September 11, 2001
The next step is to announce NESARA to the world, but it’s not an easy task to do. Many powerful groups have tried to prevent the implementation of NESARA.
The NESARA law requires that at least once a year, an effort be made to announce the law to the public. Three current US Supreme Court judges control the committee in charge of NESARA’s announcement. These Judges have used their overall authority to secretly sabotage NESARA’s announcement.
In 2001 after much negotiation the Supreme Court justices ordered the current Congress to pass resolutions ‘approving’ NESARA. This took place on September 9, 2001, eighteen months after NESARA became law. On September 10, 2001, George Bush Sr. moved into the White house to steer his son on how to block the announcement. The next day, on September 11, 2001, at 10 am Eastern Daylight Time, Alan Greenspan was scheduled to announce the new US Treasury Bank system, debt forgiveness for all U.S. citizens, and abolishment of the IRS as the first part of the public announcements of NESARA.
Just before the announcement at 9 am, Bush Sr. ordered the demolition of World Trade Center to stop the international banking computers on floors one and two, in the North Tower from initiating the new U.S. Treasury Bank system. Explosives in the World Trade Center were planted by both CIA and Mossad operatives and detonated remotely in Building 7 which was demolished later that day in order to cover-up their crime.
Remote pilot technology was used in a flyover event to deliver a payload of explosives into the Pentagon at the exact location of the White Knights in their new Naval Command Center who were coordinating activities supporting NESARA’s implementation nationwide. With the announcement of NESARA stopped dead in its tracks, George Bush Sr. decapitated any hopes of returning the government back to the people
August 29, 2010

gillfinn
gillfinn

I wanna give the girls dueling pistols. How awesome would that be? Ha!
g.

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes

That is balls on Geno. Only one or two minor points i would refute, inconsequential in scope.
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 3:27 am

Yes, I can probably pick out those points myself… had I taken a few more minutes before hitting submit I probably would have clarified the nuance of those points but you are right… they are sort of minor in contrast to the larger point…

I used to always urge The White Hats here (Tman and Paladin) and The New Republic (Hutz and XL) to recognize they were allies and come together…

So I have always been single minded about truth and a better world… but a better world isn’t compromising with the devil… I learned the hard way what the end justifies the means brings about… and to a very minor level… one sells a little pot and suddenly robberies and violence and prison comes into play? Not so harmless a plant then right? The decision to pay off the predator classes obligations with a black market plant comes with a price beyond comprehension…

Add to that my own personal fallibility such as enjoying gambling way too much… and what the result is is a mess one is lucky to pull themselves free from…

That is the same as what America and or the world has done… the end justifies the means blowing up in the global face…

We need to ask… what is the pecking order…. is it possible to rule this planet by committee and real democracy as in the 51 for out vote the 49 against?

And what if the 49 are the skilled craftsman and the 51 can’t tie their shoe laces?

Anyone ever consider skill and aptitude first?

Plato once said, something to the affect of the only pure form of democracy is a dictatorship…

(paraphrasing)

and given a benevolent dictator who truly is selfless and rules the way a King Solomon might… may well be better than the delusions of the 51% who think way more of their capabilities than their actual capabilities and that dictator has the keen eye to delegate responsibility to the most skilled in the tribe…

Well we have a mutation in people who enjoy sadism… what if the dictator is one of those…. what if the 51% do?

These are the questions that do not go away….

That is why I constantly try to break it down because our only hope is understanding the distinctions…

Evil is out there waiting to pounce on weakness… naive, gullible, lazy sycophants worshipping people who may or may not be qualified as “benevolent” leader…

http://openmindedjuror.blogspot.com/2012/04/editorial-on-drake-and-good-guy.html

solojazz1
solojazz1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-ZaU6FHNw. PART 1.2.3 ALMOST 6HOURS INTERVIEW.
Brilliant interview by Kerry Cassidy with A’shayana Deane.
Worth watching – It makes you realise that the things we are focus on are nothing compare with what is happening off world. Some of her information is also similar to what Alex Collier and Goerge Kassavalis? (might be the wrong spelling).
A’shyana Deane’s knowledge is austanding in my view.

secondlife
secondlife

While reading the latest report from Ben, a comment about what you seek you will find came to mind… I can see 2 totally different reports coming from what Ben posted above… United we stand and divided we will surely fall… I guess we will see the outcome of this shortly! 😕

Funny… the things that matter most often get pushed aside in disagreements… let’s not lose sight of helping each other along the way! 🙂 There’s always time to lend a hand. -Peace

Best to you all!

Be Safe and Be Well

evike
evike

Comment by gillfinn on April 24, 2012 @ 4:10 am

Yeh, that is the problem, men just love a cat fight. Shameful actually.

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2058/986/Meteor_Causes_Loud_Explosion_And_Shake_In_California,_Nevada,_And_Oregon_Sunday_morning.html

Meteor Causes Loud Explosion And Shake In California, Nevada, And Oregon Sunday morning

(TheWeatherSpace.com) – Switchboards lit up on Sunday morning as people heard and felt something similar to a sonic boom. Agencies are confirming a possible meteor strike.

Residents surrounding Lake Tahoe, California, Nevada, and Oregon reported seeing a bright meteor streaking across the sky just before 8:00 a.m. on Sunday morning. Some describe it as being so close to them, a blinding light.

“I was outside jogging and I saw what looked like a bright white light, almost like a nuclear bomb,” said Kathy of Tulare, California. “It was as bright as the Sun. Afterwards there was a huge boom and shaking as I lost it behind the mountains.”

more on site…

evike
evike

Meteor Causes Loud Explosion And Shake In California, Nevada, And Oregon Sunday morning

From the bloggers of site :-

I don’t believe that these explosions were caused by meteors. My wife heard them up in Tahoe and I didn’t hear them down in Sacramento. Why were they just exploding in the Tahoe region? Since they were coming from the same location in space and since the earth turns on its axis, they shouldn’t have kept hitting the same place.

I suspect the government was up to something. I have to wonder if this was the “sound” part of the Practice for their FAKE return of Jesus, they still working on the hologram part of that FRAUD
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 23, 2012 8:01LikeDislikeReport SPAM
it woke me up, i thought something hit the garage, it was just like the air races when the plans fly over my home.
89508. reno

wbstreck
wbstreck

Hi Ya’All

Many of you contend that there is Supreme Being, A Creator, but that he is distant, unapproachable. And that at times , He is cruel in routing out what He knows is genuine unrepentant evil. He knows what is best, and where to go, when to go and He will go with you, if it is justifiable and according to His Perfect Will, not what we think is in our best interests. he is always honest and wants to get straight to the point.
I, myself(wbstreck) have heard many similar startling testimonies of following God’ leading ( When we say, what do I do next, I am lost for a purpose, under the Sun?
Yep , chills ran along my spinal column too, but also an euphoric state of spirituality, and humbleness at the same time. So , let us PRAY you find ” Your Highway To Heaven ! ”

My Friends,
I am am sending this to you for I know that within you , you have the love of God-that is to do the right thing
Tuesday, April 17, 2012 (from J. Mchaffie)
Everyday I speak to God. Made me cry while reading.
Everyday I speak to God. Made me cry while reading.

>>> ”
This will give you chills… GOOD chills.

A young man had been to Wednesday Night Bible Study.

The Pastor had shared about listening to God and obeying the Lord’s voice.

The young man couldn’t help but wonder, ‘Does God still speak to people?’

After service, he went out with some friends for coffee and pie And they
discussed the message. Several different ones talked about how God had led
them in different ways.

It was about ten o’clock when the young man started driving home. Sitting in
his car, he just began to pray, ‘God… If you still speak to people, speak
to me. I will listen. I will do my best to obey.’

As he drove down the main street of his town, he had the strangest thought
to stop and buy a gallon of milk.

He shook his head and said out loud, ‘God is that you?’ He didn’t get a
reply and started on toward home.

But again, the thought, buy a gallon of milk.

The young man thought about Samuel and how he didn’t recognize the voice of
God, and how little Samuel ran to Eli.

‘Okay, God, in case that is you, I will buy the milk.’ It didn’t seem like
too hard a test of obedience. He could always use the milk. He stopped and
purchased the gallon of milk and started off toward home.

As he passed Seventh Street, he again felt the urge, ‘Turn Down that
street.’

This is crazy he thought, and drove on past the intersection.

Again, he felt that he should turn down Seventh Street.

At the next intersection, he turned back and headed down Seventh.

Half jokingly, he said out loud,’Okay, God, I will.’

He drove several blocks, when suddenly, he felt like he should stop He
pulled over to the curb and looked around. He was in a semi- commercial area
of town. It wasn’t the best but it wasn’t the worst of neighborhoods either.
The businesses were closed and most of the houses looked dark like the
people were already in bed.

Again, he sensed something, ‘Go and give the milk to the people in the house
across the street.’ The young man looked at the house. It was dark and it
looked like the people were either gone or they were already asleep. He
started to open the door and then sat back in the car seat.

‘Lord, this is insane. Those people are asleep and if I wake them up, they
are going to be mad and I will look stupid.’ Again, he felt like he should
go and give the milk.

Finally, he opened the door, ‘Okay God, if this is you, I will go to the
door and I will give them the milk If you want me to look like a crazy
person, okay. I want to be obedient. I guess that will count for something,
but if they don’t answer right away, I am out of here.’

He walked across the street and rang the bell. He could hear some noise
inside. A man’s voice yelled out, ‘Who is it? What do you want?’ Then the
door opened before the young man could get away.

The man was standing there in his jeans and T-shirt… He looked like he
just got out of bed. He had a strange look on his face and he didn’t seem
too happy to have some stranger standing on his doorstep. ‘What is it?’

The young man thrust out the gallon of milk, ‘Here, I brought this to you.’
The man took the milk and rushed down a hallway. Then from down the hall
came a woman carrying the milk toward the kitchen. The man was following her
holding a baby. The baby was crying. The man had tears streaming down his
face.

The man began speaking and half crying, ‘We were just praying… We had some
big bills this month and we ran out of money. We didn’t have any milk for
our baby. I was just praying and asking God to show me how to get some
milk.’

His wife in the kitchen yelled out, ‘I asked Him to send an Angel with
some… Are you an Angel?’

The young man reached into his wallet and pulled out all the money he had on
him and put it in the man’s hand. He turned and walked back toward his car
and the tears were streaming down his face.
He knew that God still answers prayers.

THIS IS A SIMPLE TEST. If you believe that God is alive and well, send this
to at least ten people and the person that sent it to you!!! This is so
true. Sometimes it’s the simplest things that God asks us to do that cause
us, if we are obedient to what He’s asking, to be able to hear His voice
more clearly than ever. Please listen, and obey! It will bless you (and the
world).
Phil. 4:13
This is an easy test – you score 100 or zero. It’s your choice.

If you aren’t ashamed to do this, please follow the directions… Jesus
said, ‘If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.’

Not ashamed… Pass this on.
Posted by John MacHaffie

wovolve42
wovolve42

http://youtu.be/jjiYeFDCMeY

J. KRISHNAMURTI : Part 1 : Life Story & Teachings.
*********************************************************
Krishnamurti has an amazing to state the uderlying truth and make the confusathon clear.

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by eugenekalmes on April 24, 2012 @ 3:19 am

“So as an individual I support the good guy collective… but I don’t think any of us should be so naive as to believe that this is happening without it being ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.”

Spot on Geno… NOTHING HAPPENS that ISN’T ALLOWED, Period!

Now the only factor that can throw things out of balance is it is simply impossible for TPBT to account for all possible outcomes and that alone gives us hope and the ability to prevail… we just need to take full control of that opportunity! 😉

Great work Geno… keep up the fight… I admire your ability to stay the course and certainly appreciate your efforts bro! 😉

Be Safe and Be Well

evike
evike

Another article :-

Huge Fireball Meteor Rattles Nevada And California

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2059/105/Huge_Fireball_Meteor_Rattles_Nevada_And_California.html

Excerpted from The Blaze: — A loud explosion heard across much of Nevada and California on Sunday morning rattled homes and prompted a flood of calls to law enforcement agencies on both sides of the Sierra Nevada, some reporting fireball sightings.

Astronomers have said the sound and the light show were likely caused by a meteor that entered Earth’s atmosphere.

“It made the shades in my room shake hard enough to slam into the window a couple times,” Nicole Carlsen remarked. “I kept looking for earthquake information, but (there was) nothing. I even checked the front of my house to make sure no one ran into the garage. I wish I had seen the meteor.”

Erin Girard-Hudson of Arnold, Calif., told The Union Democrat of Sonora, Calif., that the loud boom that occurred around 8 a.m. made her 2-year-old daughter, Elsie, cry.

More on site..

evike
evike

Extraterrestrial Contact: Fighting And Fornication

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2060/502/Extraterrestrial_Contact:_Fighting_And_Fornication.html

If extraterrestrials watch HBO they may notice a common theme in the original series: fighting and fornication. No matter what the backdrop or who the characters, the plot lines return frequently to those two actions. Of course, it’s not just HBO. Fighting and fornication have been a fixture in human storytelling for hundreds of years. Fighting and fornication are the two elemental parts of biological existence and they have a common denominator: survival. We are still fighting and fornicating, in many different ways, each and every day on planet Earth. We may try to clean things up in modern society, but it always gets back to those elemental themes. I really like football. Every now and then, though, I take a few steps back in my mind to view what’s actually occurring on the field. You got it: fighting and fornication. Well, not the act of fornication itself. It’s more the prelude, as women jump around in skimpy clothes cheering while the guys clobber each other.

More on site…quite funny

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes

Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 4:25 am

Thanks man but you give a broke ass guy with no credit or job too much credit… give me an endless tab at a bar and see how well I stay the course… lol…

slogg
slogg

I cannot recount the many times i have been used as an angel. I love when that happens.

secondlife
secondlife

North Korea issues unusually specific threat

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/north-korea-issues-unusually-specific-threat-152720861.html

“North Korea’s military vowed a new and unusually specific threat to its neighbors, saying it would reduce South Korea “to ashes” in less than four minutes.”

This certainly does not sound anything like what Ben has recently posted about! 🙁 Would have thought he would have mentioned something about this is todays post… wonder why? Hmmm 😕

Be Safe and Be Well

evike
evike

Solojazz1

Evike… Thank you for putting up the link Aolo – “A” just e-mailed me and pointed it out – she is browsing the blog.
I would love to tell you who A’shayana Dean is from what I know, but I cannot, but I will say please TRUST what she says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-ZaU6FHNw. PART 1.2.3 ALMOST 6HOURS INTERVIEW.

Brilliant interview by Kerry Cassidy with A’shayana Deane.
Worth watching – It makes you realise that the things we are focus on are nothing compare with what is happening off world. Some of her information is also similar to what Alex Collier and Goerge Kassavalis? (might be the wrong spelling).
A’shyana Deane’s knowledge is austanding in my view.

Comment by solojazz1 on April 24, 2012 @ 4:13 am

gillfinn
gillfinn

Hey Wov, good post, and did you notice the post beneath from a viewer? I thought it was really interesting the references he was deliberately making about AJ. I don’t know if it could be construed to an attack on AJ’s message/shows but it still kind of resonated with me because he made some points that seemed legit.
It’s really kind of telling….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAP7Wgj-78
RED ICE CREATIONS: STERLING ALLAN & EXOTIC FREE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES. SEVERAL NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO BE DISTRIBUTED THIS YEAR?

Comment by wovolve42 on April 24, 2012 @ 12:51 am
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Here it is:

Alex jones wont peep word-one about free energy technology. he constantly blabbers endlessly about how wonderful the oil industry is, and how magnificent it would be to start drilling in alaska, and build pipelines all over the united states.
i’m afraid he is entirely owned by the oil industry.
he was a number of weeks “late” to report on the gulf oil catastrophe.
smp156 4 days ago in playlist

evike
evike

Huge Fireball Meteor Rattles Nevada And California

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2059/105/Huge_Fireball_Meteor_Rattles_Nevada_And_California.html

Comment by evike on April 24, 2012 @ 4:27 am

Evike…maybe this is the reason for the “Fireball” in California :-

This is from ‘A’-

“Another mountain like this exists Mount Shasta (in California) which is a passage for the Samjase entities a rather nasty tempered race…

A couple of weeks ago I posted a video of UFOs over Tahoe, perhaps they are taking these entities out.

There is a mountain in Greece Mt Olympus, maybe you heard of it. A passage exists through this mountain uniting the Hibernation zone (the zone just before the black hole-where fallen beings live) with earth, through which these entities come to earth.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Comment by gillfinn on April 24, 2012 @ 4:10 am
Yeh, that is the problem, men just love a cat fight. Shameful actually.

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Didn’t call it a cat fight. I Called it a “duel”, choosing pistols (paint ball) and shooting at one another, would be awesome. Love to see you girls shoot at one another.

Afterwards if you preferred a “cat fight”, okay, that could be ticketed and arranged, no problem. One event at a time though, I’m a promoter not a pervert.
g.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Don’t give the cabal toooooooooo much “credit”. Woops, Freudian slip. They might just be on a toboggan heading down an icy slope, they definitely have been in control for centuries, but every so often/things happen…
g.

nancycoach
nancycoach

UPDATE ON KEENAN LAWSUIT: The judge hearing the case is:
Jesse M. Furman
Judge of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York
Incumbent
Assumed office
February 17, 2012 <<—-
Appointed by Barack Obama <<—- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2TLamg3VRE&feature=relmfu

wovolve42
wovolve42

Gill – I hadnt noticed that comment regarding AJ, thanks for posting it- I have thought that AJ has been on the payroll for some time now – I dont listen to him anymore but when I used to quite often I noticed that there seemed to a lot of inconsistencies in the info he reports- it would be mostly accurate but not all of it.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Hi everyone, I just wanted your input on something. I’m sorry if this is off topic, but I would like to hear what you think of the use of baking soda as a way of fighting cancer? I have read some things about it, and find it as a pretty good method, as long as a person doesn’t over use it, say no more that a couple of weeks. My daughter asked me about it, and we are both doing some research on it, and I would love to have your input, please? Thanks everyone for your help and support with my daughter April.

slogg
slogg

Marhuff… anything that oxygenates body cells is beneficial. As with all holistic remedies/cures, use as many as you can… all that seem applicable. A disease is caused by a deficiency… fix that, problem solved.

evike
evike

Comment by gillfinn on April 24, 2012 @ 5:21 am

Hi G,

Hey you, how about seeing some of you guys fight or shoot at each other, so that we girlies can really see what your made of Lol.

I thought you said a while back that you were a lover not a fighter, so you’re out of the picture already, darn.

So why would you want to see a duel. Split personality perhaps, Lol – sorry Gil, just couldn’t resist that one. Luv you really.

Evike

gillfinn
gillfinn

Wov, the inventor also kept referencing Jones, really strange. I have not been listening to AJ in the last year and a half because he rattles the cage and spews too much fear in my opinion.

But what I’m wondering is if it’s a case of trashing AJ, only? What do you think? I understand completely his assessment of Jones, but wonder if it’s a planned attack.
See, here’s the deal, AJ could address it as such, to his advantage, and poison/perfume, good/bad info either way.
Such is the way with disinfo.
g.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Comment by gillfinn on April 24, 2012 @ 5:21 am
Hi G,
Hey you, how about seeing some of you guys fight or shoot at each other, so that we girlies can really see what your made of Lol.
I thought you said a while back that you were a lover not a fighter, so you’re out of the picture already, darn.
So why would you want to see a duel. Split personality perhaps, Lol – sorry Gil, just couldn’t resist that one. Luv you really.
Evike
Comment by evike on April 24, 2012 @ 5:38 am
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Okay, problem solved. Paintball party in Hawaii, for purposes of fun?! Guys verses girls? Cool, but you guys will go down in multi-color!
g.

wbstreck
wbstreck

marhuff ,for you -Skeptics need not reply to me, please!
I know of two people that are on this regime. One with cancer of the tongue, started this regimen about a year ago and is coming around.
Another fellow with liver cancer and on Chemo began about a month ago and he was feeling better within two weeks. There is a problem in that he smokes, which is a detriment. He stopped his Chemo treatment this past weak and is taking it easy. He just replenished his supply of the ingredients.
He drinks a lot of bottled water , Sooooo , I did recommend getting a supply of Vivo Water from the factory , mainly , as a hedge against the cigarette smoking, hoping it will help purge his system of the nicotine and tar, and thereby lessen the burden on the kidneys and liver. Best wishes, and many prayers for your April. My friend is a great guy (God’s Helper, Joe)

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by marhuff55 on April 24, 2012 @ 5:33 am
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The theory is cancer can’t grow in an alkaline system. Baking soda alkalizes so it should work.

My dad had chronic acid reflux and had to take prescription heartburn medicine. He decided to try and alkalize his system naturally. He drinks a green superfood drink and water with lemon juice. It must have alkalized his system because he no longer needs medicine.

marhuff55
marhuff55

God love ya wbstreck, I know you mean well and all with what you post, but, computers do have browser software with them, and if you post the links to those sites, it would save the blog some bandwidth. Not that I always scroll past what you post, but if I’m not up to reading it at that time, scrolling past it can be a pain. I do have a fast machine, and it only takes a moment for this page to load, but, I have to wonder about those who don’t have a high speed connection. It has to take forever for the slower connections to load.

Please, could you just post the links to those articles from now on? Danke schön

zantor
zantor

The Duty of the Military in a Militarized Empire

SARTRE, Contributor Activist Post, Monday, April 23, 2012

“Those who serve in the military are in a difficult position. The oath taken by enlistees states, “I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

The internal conflict between supporting and defending the Constitution and obeying orders is at the heart of the dilemma of honor and duty. Those who accept that the Presidential chain of command is by nature constitutional, lack a proper understanding of history and professes an even greater ignorance of current affairs.

Ever since Congress abrogated their lawful war power authority to declare war, the military-industrial complex has embarked on a path of global empire. The consequences of such un-American internationalist imperialism have turned the country into a hollow shell of a once great nation. NeoCons and their liberal cousin counterparts champion perpetual interventionism and continuous overseas deployment, and deny this stark reality…”

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/duty-of-military-in-militarized-empire.html

secondlife
secondlife

Gill

Great to see you bud… glad that you’re still hanging on here. 😛

-Be Safe and Be Well

marhuff55
marhuff55

Wanda, wbstreck and accuchip, thank you all kindly for your input. This helps a lot. Anymore out there? I figured it was a good way to go, and I have been talking to my girl about it, and shee is willing to try anything right now. I also figured that I could show here what you guys have to say about it, and it WILL help her make the choice of if she uses it or not.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Shee, should be she, and show here, should be show her. Damn, my fingers don’t know when to stop typing what they think words are spelled like(lol).

wovolve42
wovolve42

Gill- its certainly possible that this guy is trying to discredit AJ- I think he does offer some good info and I do give him credit for making people aware of all the stuff that is happening…I think that many start listening to him when they first start waking up and are just beginning to find out the truth –

accuchip
accuchip

cancer the forbidden cures full documentary. Unfortunately my uncle is dying of cancer and doesn’t trust alternative medicine. All cures are about the same. Relieve your immune system and it will cure you.

http://vimeo.com/25279346

evike
evike

Gil,

You chicken poo, I bet the picture of “nancycoach” put the wind up you, Lol. A few more women like nancy and you fellas are history anyway.

Love the Hawaii bit though, prefer the beach and sunbathing instead.

drmichelle
drmichelle

Due to the issue in southeast Asia, the take down of the cabal must occur very shortly to remove the possibility of war.
DRAKE UPDATE: PLEASE READ AND HELP IN AMERICA BY BEING A SCOUT AS INDICATED IN THIS LINK.

http://eclinik.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/message-from-drake-to-the-patriots-april-22-2012/

gillfinn
gillfinn

Gill
Great to see you bud… glad that you’re still hanging on here.
-Be Safe and Be Well
Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 5:58 am
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Same SL, good to see you’re back and I guess the next move is to make something happen, when? It’s anyone’s guess.
g.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by accuchip on April 24, 2012 @ 6:08 am

Accuchip, I had told my children years ago, that if I ever get cancer, that I would rather die fighting it with meditation and herbs, then to burden them with hospital bills that insurance doesn’t pay. This rotten money game the doctors and hospitals play(billing someone into an early grave)when it comes to a human life turns my stomach. And they tell you, that money shouldn’t be a reason not to go to a doctor or hospital………uh huh, yeah…..riiiight. As though your going to pull that money out of your ass like magic!

drmichelle
drmichelle

To HaronDaddy: Above you will find an even more recent update from Drake…as Monday morning, April 23. The time is very close due to this crap going on in southeast Asia.

Here is the link again if you cannot find it above.

http://eclinik.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/message-from-drake-to-the-patriots-april-22-2012/

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by gillfinn on April 24, 2012 @ 6:20 am..

One could say that everything is happening… just as it could equally be said that it appears nothing is going on at all… just depends on what you wish to find. 😕

Observe and not react… if we don’t use our own imagination to determine our own fate… someone, or something will! Manifest what you want to happen, not what we are told sould happen… walk where others talk… it is really that easy!! 🙂 -Peace

Be Safe and Be Well

ksa711
ksa711

*********** Please watch only 90 sec. long ***************

Vibration and resonance are the secrets of the universe, this is how they built the Pyramids. Check out code 144 dot com /Coral Castle . http://youtu.be/mODqQvlrgIQ

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

pvg…
We are challenged to see past illusion… we are to seek the truth.
Our enemy uses deception at every turn. I think it contingent on all of us to learn what comes from our enemy, what they wish us to believe. They cleverly mix truths in with their lies… it is for us to decide which is truth in their words and what is belied by their actions and goals.
They want us believing channeled information… they want to bring a world government based on threat of alien invasion… that, for me, is why i demand proof. They want to put forth their fake new world religion… can’t we see that for what it is?
There is truth, it is knowable. It will only be when we wrest our world back from these controllers that we will be able to discern truth in an open and free manner.
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I actually pretty much agree with you, but with the caveat that we need to challenge our idea of PROOF. The scientific method doesn’t PROVE anything. We ask questions, form a hypothesis, test the hypothesis, gather information in the form of data/results, analyze the data using logic, and then match it up with the hypothesis and go at it again. When it lines up repeatedly, we call it a THEORY….until….like Einstein’s theory of relativity, it is found to be in error. Then what? Adjust or go back to the drawing board? Some results are repeatable over and over so we call them laws. Like, gravity on the earth… until someone walks on water or levitates?

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/08/07/australia.lightspeed/

We didn’t make the laws, we just discovered them (or so we think).

What is a fact? It is something that is indisputably true (independent of our approval of it or ability to lay hold of it.) OK, well, that’s great but when do people easily agree as to what facts are true. Our human need for a referee to settle the matter in the legal arena gives rise to the “trier of fact”. The trier of fact is the jury, judge, or arbitrator who makes findings of fact, and then applies the law to the facts.

We give extra weight to “experts” – but it doesn’t mean that they are correct, either. Witnesses testify to the truth and sometimes they lie (bear false witness). Sometimes witnesses believe they saw or witnessed something, but they are incorrect because of defect in their ability to perceive.

All this said, it doesn’t take away from us having to search for truth. We examine statements of fact and reason through them. When someone channels a message or receives a prophecy from God Himself, whatever… and it does not come to pass…. it’s a fact that they’re a false prophet. We can discern many things that we can come to rely upon as truth. We can also prognosticate (which is really the scientific method) that we are going to the mailbox and there will be a bill waiting.

Just because we are not the Creator and cannot tell ALL TRUTH with 100% certainty, doesn’t mean that we should give up on our quest for truth. The very best thing would be to contact the Creator and get some answers, if we could. Funny how people here talk to ETs and spirit guides but seldom mention the creator.

I think it’s first important to challenge our views about truth in a philosophical way, so we can better reason through all the information before us. We do know that truth is not self-contradictory. Sometimes that merely means that we haven’t asked all the right questions.

Since there really is true TRUTH (as opposed to our version of truth and reality, which is oftentimes flawed), we need to search and find it find it. I believe I am right and as does the next person here, but we oftentimes disagree. In the end, it’s important that we find the true TRUTH, and see past the illusion as Wanda said. I’m saying that we do need to reason through conflicting reports and beliefs. There are consequences to being in error.

We are challenged to see past illusion… we are to seek the truth.”-Wanda

Good one! I agree!

I’ll also stick with the Alef and the Tav, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but through Me.”

We’ll see in the end what gives. 😉

@ Solarain, I am a Messianic believer in Yahshua. You’ve never heard of that before? I believe in the doctor, the lawyer and the accountant…plus, the interior designer.

I typed this quickly on the fly and didn’t proof (reserve the right to amend! lol)

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

Here are some felicitous tidings. I think that we should all buy a couple of shares of the worst companies and then attend their stockholder meetings.

NAI2010
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http://www.nationofchange.org/shareholders-raising-ruckus-about-ceo-pay-1335194124

One of my responsibilities when I was head of corporate communications at Cigna was to help ensure that the company’s annual meeting of shareholders ran smoothly and, if at all possible, attracted no negative publicity.

I always dreaded the annual meeting because you really never knew if one or more disgruntled shareholders might show up and ask rude questions of the CEO. But during all of my years of helping plan those meetings, we had an unblemished string of non-events. We considered the meetings marathons if they lasted more than 15 minutes. Most of them were over long before then. Over the course of 10 years, I only recall two reporters who felt compelled to attend, and one of them got stuck in traffic and missed the whole thing.

Some of my peers at other health insurers were not that lucky, but relatively few of the big-profit insurers have had to cope with contentious shareholder meetings.

It is clear those days are over.

Some investors are now beginning to question how those companies make the billions of dollars in profits they report every year, especially with the ranks of the uninsured continuing to swell, how they spend policyholders’ money to influence public policy and whether their CEOs are truly worth all they are being paid.

Of the five biggest for-profit insurers, Cigna will lead off the annual meeting season this coming Wednesday in Hartford and it will not likely be the sleeper previous meetings have been.

That’s because earlier this month, one big shareholder — the Change to Win (CtW) Investment Group — sent a letter to other shareholders urging them to “send our board a clear message: Cigna’s executive pay structure is broken and open engagement needs to begin with concerned shareholders, immediately.”

Most news sources are funded by corporations and investors. Their goal is to drive people to advertisers while pushing the corporate agenda. NationofChange is a 501(c)3 organization funded almost 100% from its readers–you! Our only accountability is to the public. Click here to make a generous donation.
CtW, which works with pension funds sponsored by several unions, decided to send the letter after seeing that Cigna CEO David Cordani was given a pay raise of more than 25 percent last year, bringing his total compensation to more than $20 million. That was “chiefly on the back of a poorly-utilized performance metric that put cash in (Cordani’s) pocket only because our customers cannot afford to go to the doctor,” CtW said in its letter.

Sources within the company have told me that many employees were as upset as CtW to see Cordani get such a huge increase in compensation when most of the rank and file have been lucky to get raises of 2 percent or 3 percent in recent years.

MORE AT SITE

secondlife
secondlife

All the talk about truth brings to mind the core concept of acceptence. Although there may be universal laws that govern our lives… NOTHING, No one has the right to force a belief on another. People just need to learn to live and let live… it is our individual right to our own beliefs, personal space and freedom to make personal choices! 😉

I know… it seems that some are going in the wrong direction and we all just want to help… but is helping really helping when it wasn’t asked for in the first place? 😯

Seriously… if we spend more time on working inwards and less interfering with others… just allowing things to be as they should be… I think we may end UP in a similar destination… after all… we are all here at this current time and place…. just need to understand why! 🙄
-Peace

Be Safe and Be Well

zantor
zantor

Scam Trek Caption Contest

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/23/2012 15:39 -0400

Europe, the final fun-tear…

Courtesy of William Banzai

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/scam-trek-caption-contest

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 6:36 am

You know second, this reminds me of something I read in another blogs comment section a while back. A person commented that they didn’t believe that anything Drake said was real. I asked that person why? The response I got was standard, “because they have never seen or heard of Drake, or seen any of the things he talks about happening”.

I then asked the person if he believes if the cabal is real. “Oh my, yes”. I then asked, if he had ever seen or met any of the cabal, like the Rothchilds, answer, “no”. I then stated, you have never seen or met any of the Rothchilds, and yet, you believe they are the evil cabal and dangerous people, and they themselves are doing bad things at this very moment, as though you are there watching it happen? Why is it, you don’t give Drake the same consideration beings you never met or seen him? I didn’t get a response back. It’s the same thing over and over again…..just because I don’t see it, it’s not true. As though they have to be slapped in the face with the proof before they can, and will accept it as being real.

zantor
zantor

Russia Will Not Reopen: “The Situation Has Been Recognized As An Emergency”

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/23/2012 12:42 -0400

One temporary halt and three delay attempts later, and we get…. this.[Must See…]

Yes, this is the Russian stock market.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/russia-will-not-reopen-situation-has-been-reocginzed-emergency

slogg
slogg

The scientific method doesn’t PROVE anything.
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pvg…

I agree with you… the scientific, method method was what someone posted to counter my argument… i didn’t buy it. Whomever posted that was trying to get me to believe it was some sort of proof. I think it was Neo… no offense intended, but take that up with him, because it didn’t come from me.

secondlife
secondlife

One thing that I have learned… EVERYTHING is FOREVER CHANGING! Nothing stays the same… and so we all need to be more flexible, to be more accepting… and to let go of everything… fore the more you hold and the tighter your grip… the less you grow! 🙁

It’s almost as if what you feel first you should do less, or not at all. And this goes way past gut-hunches… since most first responses are just conditioning in action… it’s takes skill and a deeper connection to our heart to wait… feel… and then decide. 🙂

We start life as children observing everything… that is the root to learning before conditioning sets us astray. So back to the roots we should go… discover our selves again and let others do the same… everything is changing… observe its growth and feel yours as well! After all… it’s never too late to change… you just have to let go of the controls and see where you end up! 🙂 -Peace

Be Safe and Be Well

slogg
slogg

Marhuff…

What accuchip said, that is correct. Baking soda alkalizes and oxygenates… alkalizing is key. There is a baking soda and maple syrup (pure maple syrup, not Ain’t Jomama) cure… i keep some around, probably will do better work inside of me………….. i’ll find and post if interested… tastes good too, not on the first day you make it though… you gotta wait a day for it to taste good.

evike
evike

Galactic Federation Of Light Sananda/Yeshua April 4 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntF-STciwCU&feature=related

Many of you are entering a phase where thought patterns are undergoing a shift. There is a shift from ego-based thoughts to heart-based thoughts. There is a subtle shift in perception in many. It is like trying on a new set of clothes, in a new style. It may feel a little awkward and scratchy at first, but as time goes on, it feels more normal. Wear this new set of clothing, this new set of attitudes, lightly and with grace. You do not need to worry about how it looks. From our perspective, you look magnificent. You are learning how to navigate the switch from linear thinking to multidimensional thought.

With all the changes in your DNA and Light Bodies, nothing is the same, minute to minute. There appears to be no starting point or threshold to base things on anymore. You are flying free, dear ones, and learning to navigate your wings, so to speak. As you leave 3rd dimensional frameworks, the sky is the limit as to what you can create. It will be tempting at times to go back to the old ways of thinking, the old ways of doing things. But try and launch yourselves off from this point and explore the possibilities.

Evike…automated message and she also said “we are learning what is is to go back to “Oneness”. Your loving brother Yeshua.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:14 am

Sure Wanda, post it. I’ll make a copy of it for her. Thanks.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

I just heard there is an attempted denial of service attack going on at

https://www.cia.gov/

Hm wonder if they are going to false flag something in cyber world now.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

I just tested.

http://www.rts.ru/en/

Russian stock markets website is more functional than the CIA’s. I do not believe they are shutdown any longer.

slogg
slogg

Someone here also said “well if a spaceship with aliens landed in your yard you still wouldn’t believe.” (i am paraphrasing), which i found to be a profoundly vapid statement and to which i replied, “that would be proof.”… and that’s all i’m asking for. It is a world of deception. There are laws of nature that are immutable… and yes, there are places or cases where the laws are suspended or allowed to be changed by nature of everything else in concert with said event… like in Death Valley, or, presumably, in the Devil’s Triangle… but they still follow immutable laws of nature. The man in the Coral thing, always did his “work” away from the cameras… so what is that?

evike
evike

Evike…I like this in the message :-

Energy cannot die, it can only change frequency. Our wings are not made of feathers but of light, and symbolize the flow of unconditional love from the ONE.

Galactic Federation Of Light Archangel Zadkiel April 9 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibc0AzIeyQU&feature=relmfu

It doesn’t hurt to listen to these beautiful words,
4.43 minutes

positivechange
positivechange

Russia Will Not Reopen: “The Situation Has Been Recognized As An Emergency”

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/23/2012 12:42 -0400
One temporary halt and three delay attempts later, and we get…. this.[Must See…]

Yes, this is the Russian stock market.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/russia-will-not-reopen-situation-has-been-reocginzed-emergency

Comment by zantor on April 24, 2012 @ 7:06 am
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Thanks for posting! Maybe someone was looking to initiate a market crash using the RTS.

If the DoS attack on http://www.cia.gov is true, this would confirm the above as well as provide indication that things have heated up to the point where action takes place.

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by marhuff55 on April 24, 2012 @ 7:03 am

Hey brother… it is a concept that has been hard for me to learn, since I have always wanted see things happen… to see proof that it indeed exists, so that I could accept it for being true.

I am not a gullible person… not easily swayed and always on guard… so I have missed things right before my eyes, since I was distracted by my own need to see proof when the actual proof was beyond my senses for detection… or lack of current science to back its existence. 🙁

I am back to observing… holding little and allowing everything as a possibility. Since I realize now that my own need to control things has been the very element keeping me static! 🙂

The need to see… the need for proof was my biggest obstacle for personal growth. I now try to allow things to be as they should be and just direct myself accordingly… after the fact. 😕

My need to protect myself from being blindsided… for trying to react before something took place, just set the stage for the very things I was trying to avoid happening.

As the saying goes… “careful of what you wish for”. I am learning to just be alive in a world where everything is NOT what is seems, or appears to be… and my focus has shifted to what I want to see and not what I want to avoid. And man has this been hard to do! 😛

My prayers go out to you and your family… I have seen cancer bite my sister to the point of near death… and I myself have recovered from an accident that most do not mend from… so anything is possible… and you are surrounded by great people here… our energy bathes you both! Feel it… bless you brother!

Be Safe and Be Well

slogg
slogg

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/news.php?q=1205699951

* CancerTutor Home Page

How It Works

This treatment is a combination of pure, 100% maple syrup and baking soda. When mixed and heated together, the maple syrup and baking soda bind together. The maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells) and the baking soda, which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup, being very alkaline, removes the microbe inside the cancer cell.

The Protocol

Very Important Note: USE ONLY baking soda which is stated to be “aluminum free.” This includes pharmaceutical grade baking soda or a product such as Bob’s Red Mill (Aluminum-Free) Baking Soda.

Mix one part baking soda with three parts (pure, 100%) maple syrup in a small saucepan.

Stir Briskly as it is heating.

Heat the mixture for 5 minutes (which means do not use heat that is too high).

Take 1 teaspoon daily, as needed.

We have not been able to get the maple syrup to bind to the baking soda, using Bob’s Red Mill baking soda. If you figure out how to keep the maple syrup from separating from the baking soda, after refrigerating overnight, please let us know how you did it (make sure you include the word “cancer” or “Kelmun” in the Subject line:

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My note: i also used Bob’s Red Mill baking soda, and it does not bind… i simply stir it up prior to taking. I have no way of knowing, but it does not seem to matter.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

The lesson I learned from Iceland Mortgage Jubilee Fiasco.

Test out what is reported If a negative indicator exists
consider the report possible rumor rather than probable rumor and report that along with the rumor if you still consider it interesting.

1. Most new pages in the CIA website is taking between 20 seconds and 1 minute to load. No http errors occurring I do not think the denial of service attack is succeeding. It looks like it is causing slowdown only.

slogg
slogg

Or… use a different baking soda… i guess one with the aluminum. I hate Bob’s Red Mill… have you ever drank some with water for settling a gassy stomach? It’s horrible. I’m afraid i’ll take the aluminum when i do that… and i know several others that do too.

XL

Re: Comment by marhuff55 on April 24, 2012 @ 7:03 am
>It’s the same thing over and over again…..just because I don’t see
>it, it’s not true. As though they have to be slapped in the face with
>the proof before they can, and will accept it as being real.

And even then they might not believe it… *grin*

I know several people personally that even if an ET brought their ship down right in front of them, got out and shook hands with them, and told them “yes, we’re real and we’re here”, they would still not believe it and explain how it was all just an elaborate scam. *sigh*

I’ve had this discussion with several people over the last week (talk about synchronicity). Sometimes all it takes is a mere mention of a particular topic (not even a discussion) and a person will launch into a profanity laced tirade, denying it could ever be true, all without further prompting.

I just laugh at it all now… If someone is that adamant about denying it, then they must be close to accepting it as fact. It is just part of the five stages of grief…

I just let them run through their course of emotions and tell them I’ll be there for them if they need me.

secondlife
secondlife

Hey Wanda… just wanted to say hello… I appreciate you hanging tough and taking the punches. You’re a strong soul with a huge heart… keep being you. Some of us are happy you are here. 🙂

Be Safe and Be Well

slogg
slogg

XL… and then there are people who try TOO HARD to convince. Two sides to every coin. I’ll stick to actually having some proof that people have had hands on experience with.

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Toddler who is mind controlled. Very emotional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4wt824D1Bqg

secondlife
secondlife

A shout out to PVG and Wovolve42 as well… you girls always make me smile! 🙂

Be Safe and Be Well

slogg
slogg

That’s all i can do Secondlife. It’s the way i was made, for some reason, so who am i to question? It is meaningful to hear that. Thank you.

secondlife
secondlife

Senses… that’s the ticket! Reminds me of an old B titled movie, ‘From Beyond’, whereby a scientist discovered a machine that when turned on, activated our “third eye – Pineal Gland. 😯

It allowed humans to see all that is always around us, but just not detectable by our regular senses… problem was… when we saw them… they saw us and could interact with us… and they weren’t too friendly! 😛

Ok… siging off for now… -Peace

Be Safe and Be Well

positivechange
positivechange

Ex-Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation chief Sheila Bair’s editorial in the Washington Post, entitled, “Fix Income Inequality with $10 million Loans for Everyone!”:

“Under my plan, each American household could borrow $10 million from the Fed at zero interest. The more conservative among us can take that money and buy 10-year Treasury bonds. At the current 2 percent annual interest rate, we can pocket a nice $200,000 a year to live on. The more adventuresome can buy 10-year Greek debt at 21 percent, for an annual income of $2.1 million. Or if Greece is a little too risky for you, go with Portugal, at about 12 percent, or $1.2 million dollars a year. (No sense in getting greedy.)”

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/free-10-million-loans-for-all-and-other-wall-street-notes-20120419#ixzz1suKK4tiQ

evike
evike

Dreams: Portals To Your Quantum Potential
Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:58

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2053/931/Dreams:_Portals_To_Your_Quantum_Potential.html

Dreams. What are they really? Poets say dreams are the artistry of the mind. Soothsayers claim they are portents of possible future events. Psychologists theorize dreams are the mind’s attempt to resolve issues or reveal your innermost, suppressed thoughts and feelings. But dreams can be (and sometimes are), much more than that. Dreams are guided by the mind’s interaction with quantum entanglement. As the mind interacts with the universe, it uploads data affecting the universe, and the universe also downloads into the mind. Within this realm contact can be made with other beings…for dreams can be portals through the dimensions to our other selves.

Studies have shown that your dreams can improve your life. You can have better, deeper, more fulfilling relationships; improve your financial situation; lose weight and exercise more; develop a more comprehensive perspective of the cosmos; enhance your creativity; boost your health; even improve sports performance.

More on site…

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Sung Bong Choi. The boy who slept on public toilets at night for ten years.

He did what he could do everyday of his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=related

deester
deester

Have not heard from IMF. Will phone them on Thursday or Friday for a follow up.

fuckmasons
fuckmasons

My patience are running out. The longer this shit runs, the more likely it is gonna fall on us, the everyday working man. Im tired of the same old bullshit. It’s the idiots that live next door to us who are the main problem. They support the very fucks who are fucking us all! Ben and his dragons, while doing all they can do, need the support of the majority, and right now, the majority are fucking idiots. I have been as positive as I can.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Gill- its certainly possible that this guy is trying to discredit AJ- I think he does offer some good info and I do give him credit for making people aware of all the stuff that is happening…I think that many start listening to him when they first start waking up and are just beginning to find out the truth –
Comment by wovolve42 on April 24, 2012 @ 6:05 am

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No, you’re spot on Wov, and I like that he makes people aware of AJ and a possible agenda. In other words, discern for yourselves people, do not gobble de gook.

I love you kid.

Sort out the cookies you want to place within your mouth.
g.

evike
evike

America Rise Up!

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2053/076/America_Rise_Up.html

By Dr. Laurie Roth
April 20, 2012
NewsWithViews.com

Our Republic and freedom is flat lining

Our country has been raped by Obama and his regime and he has put us in the ‘devils playhouse.’ Voting for Romney in November will just take us to another room in the unconstitutional and evil playhouse we are lost in now.

Shameful betrayals are a daily thing. Attacks come from everywhere, are worded in Slippery language from Obama and his minions – just like his Saul Alinsky bible of direction would have it.

Hit em hard and hit em fast so the American people don’t know how to strike back, where to strike back and are afraid to strike back.

The Attacks

Forced Health care bill – mandating Obama care – forcing the people to pay for and have Government approved Health insurance or receive big fines. Just when we thought we had seen it all, then we find we have forced RFID chips (p. 1001) to be implemented by March 23, 2013. Medical surveillance and accessing our bank accounts is important you know! March 23, 1933 was the day Hitlers Enabling Act was voted into law which was the beginning of the end for the German people. I have two words — Nazi Germany

More on site…

Bloggers

Finally I agree with somebody, Thank You Very Much Dr. Laurie Roth, I quote; Voting for Romney in November will just take us to another room in the unconstitutional and evil playhouse we are lost in now. Beautifully said!

This fall it is a choice between a President who will destroy our country and one who may buy us a little more time…what a choice!!! Unfortunately to support s third psrty candidate would ensure that the country would be destroyed instead of buying needed time.

Bilderberg Meeting 2012 arrest all of them ..= no WARS!

Bilderberg Meeting 2012 ARREST THEM WE HAVE PEACE !

Neo
Neo

The scientific method doesn’t PROVE anything.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
pvg…

I agree with you… the scientific, method method was what someone posted to counter my argument… i didn’t buy it. Whomever posted that was trying to get me to believe it was some sort of proof. I think it was Neo… no offense intended, but take that up with him, because it didn’t come from me.

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:11 am
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Scientific Method

The principles and empirical processes of discovery and demonstration considered characteristic of or necessary for scientific investigation, generally involving the observation of phenomena, the formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomena, experimentation to “demonstrate the truth or falseness of the hypothesis”, and a conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.

Thus you either PROVE or DISPROVE a hypothesis/theory.

If you prove a theory it becomes a scientific truth.

As I’ve said before, we have an “ID ten-T” problem here.

slogg, you deal a lot with half-truths, but half-truths are still lies.

Disagree? Then prove me wrong using verifiable documented evidence, not the crap you call “proof” aka “subjective BS”.

It doesn’t take intelligence to question things, I can get a 5 year old to do that.

Neo

wbstreck
wbstreck

accuchip Regarding acid reflux Acid Reflux. Stay with what works , AND you can add a nice Red Organic Delicious Apple before bedtime . I found out about this from a whistle blower whose Dad had agonizing acid reflux disease.
recently I went to a church sale and a fellow was selling some of his barrel of fresh organic apples advertising that they were a effective cure for reflux disease. So you can recommend your Dad add this to his regimen.

slogg
slogg

neo…

you wrote: slogg, you deal a lot with half-truths, but half-truths are still lies.

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Elaborate on that please.

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by wbstreck on April 24, 2012 @ 8:15 am
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Thanks wbstreck I’ll let him know.

slogg
slogg

neo… here is the origin of this conflict…

Neo… that is complete bullshit. You cannot prove a theory correct without proof or evidence… PERIOD. And, if that is the case, which i highly doubt, show me where that’s backed up and by whom.

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 11:12 am
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A bit testy are we?

Overview of the Scientific Method

The scientific method is a process for experimentation that is used to explore observations and answer questions.

Scientists use the scientific method to search for cause and effect relationships in nature. In other words, they design an experiment so that changes to one item cause something else to vary in a predictable way.

Just as it does for a professional scientist, the scientific method will help you to focus your science fair project question, construct a hypothesis, design, execute, and evaluate your experiment.

[Read more]
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/mentoring/project_scientific_method.shtml

Neo

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I ask you to show me proof, you show me scientific method, which is a way to explore truth, but is not in and of itself truth, which is what i refuted. Next time show proof, not a way to find proof, that is not there.

evike
evike

Seriously… if we spend more time on working inwards and less interfering with others… just allowing things to be as they should be… I think we may end UP in a similar destination… after all… we are all here at this current time and place…. just need to understand why! 🙄
-Peace

Be Safe and Be Well
Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 6:59 am

Hi Secondlife,

Good advice, and hope you liked the UK. People think more freely here. Like you said, people just got on with life, not hung up about anything.

No one should have to prove anything to anyone, because non of us are better than the other, we are just different, life would be boring if we were all the same.

bodhi
bodhi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkP0V1aQdVk&feature=relmfu

Terence McKenna & Rupert Sheldrake – “Forms and Mysteries” 1988

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aircow
aircow

Hey Wanda… just wanted to say hello… I appreciate you hanging tough and taking the punches. You’re a strong soul with a huge heart… keep being you. Some of us are happy you are here. 🙂

Be Safe and Be Well
Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 7:43 am

I’ll second that.

Neo
Neo

I ask you to show me proof, you show me scientific method, which is a way to explore truth, but is not in and of itself truth, which is what i refuted. Next time show proof, not a way to find proof, that is not there.

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 8:24 am
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You’re arguments are reminiscent of the changing winds.

By the way, I invented a new product.

I call it the slugg.

It’s similar to the slogg excepts it has been modified to scrap shit off boots, it’s comes in very handy when dealing with you.

Neo

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes

I just watched a really well done college movie… acting, script and depiction of dysfunction really well executed…. impressed….

http://www.hulu.com/watch/352107/cherry

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:34 am
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:38 am

Thanks Wanda, I’ll get this to her this week end.

pansy
pansy

Comment by merek on April 24, 2012 @ 1:45 am

Merek,

I was reading your entry regarding the Senator going to Japan and the Fukishima mess to my husband. After hearing the entire article, he said “I am 64 years old and if you’ll remember all through the 1950’s they blew up atom bombs all over Nevada and shot hydrogen bombs off in the hundreds over Bikini Island in the South Pacific. These events had to cause lots of fallout to begin traveling across the US and other parts of the world. These events went on from the end of WWll until about 1963. Now, I’m still walking around and have no health issues and you’re still walking around and have no health issues. My mother is still living at 91 and your grandmother is still living at 94. Your dad is 80 years old and has never spent a single day in the hospital in his entire life and, if you remember, he was one of many Americans who bought geiger counters and headed out west looking for uranium to make his fortune. He was exposed to that stuff a lot and never wore any protective gear.

Therefore, I have to wonder what all of this upset is really about and would love to hear a reply from the blog member that posted that story since he seems to be very informed on the subject.”

So, Merek…care to answer my husband’s question? Please understand, he is not asking to argue or be a smarty pants. He is truly interested in WHY this is such a big deal.

Thank you,

Pansy

slogg
slogg

neo…

So like a disinfo agent… change the subject and denigrate.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by secondlife on April 24, 2012 @ 7:33 am

“My prayers go out to you and your family… I have seen cancer bite my sister to the point of near death… and I myself have recovered from an accident that most do not mend from… so anything is possible… and you are surrounded by great people here… our energy bathes you both! Feel it… bless you brother!

Be Safe and Be Well”

It’s hard for me to type with tears in my eyes. Bless you and everyone here for the prayers and concern for my “baby” girl.

slogg
slogg

denigrade… not grate.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by XL on April 24, 2012 @ 7:42 am

You sound just like me when it comes to that. I just get that “blank look” from them. I call them “the wall”, for what good it does telling them anything.

wbstreck
wbstreck

The Gulf Ecosystem Is Being Decimated

The BP oil spill started on April 20, 2010. We’ve previously warned that the BP oil spill could severely damage the Gulf ecosystem.

Since then, there are numerous signs that the worst-case scenario may be playing out:

New York Times: “Gulf Dolphins Exposed to Oil Are Seriously Ill, Agency Says

MSNBC: Gulf shrimp scarce this season (and see the Herald Tribune‘s report)

Mother Jones: Eyeless shrimp are being found all over the Gulf

NYT: Oil Spill Affected Gulf Fish’s Cell Function, Study Finds

CBS:Expert: BP spill likely cause of sick Gulf fish (and see the Press Register’s report)

Study confirms oil from Deepwater spill entered food chain

Pensacola News Journal: “Sick fish” archive

Agence France Presse: Mystery illnesses plague Louisiana oil spill crews

MSNBC: Sea turtle deaths up along Gulf, joining dolphin trend

MSNBC:Exclusive: Submarine Dive Finds Oil, Dead Sea Life at Bottom of Gulf of Mexico

AP: BP oil spill the culprit for slow death of deep-sea coral, scientists say (and see the Guardian and AFP‘s write ups)

A recent report also notes that there are flesh-eating bacteria in tar balls of BP oil washing up on Gulf beaches

And all of that lovely Corexit dispersant sprayed on water, land and air? It inhibits the ability of microbes to break down oil, and allows oil and other chemicals to speed past the normal barriers of human skin. Background here. NYT: Impact of Gulf Spill’s Underwater Dispersants Is Examined Speaking on the chemical ingredients of the dispersants used, “The report finds that “Of the 57 ingredients: 5 chemicals are associated with cancer; 33 are associated with skin irritation from rashes to burns; 33 are linked to eye irritation; 11 are or are suspected of being potential respiratory toxins or irritants; 10 are suspected kidney toxins; 8 are suspected or known to be toxic to aquatic organisms; and 5 are suspected to have a moderate acute toxicity to fish.

bodhi
bodhi

it takes one to know one… jus sayin

XL

Re: Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:45 am
>XL… and then there are people who try TOO HARD to convince.
>Two sides to every coin. I’ll stick to actually having some
>proof that people have had hands on experience with.

Yep, and that is why I’m not going to argue with you on the topic. If you want some more proof on a particular topic, I’ll provide it for you, but I’m not going to try and force you to believe it.

slogg
slogg

Bodhi… back it up.

slogg
slogg

I do want proof XL.

slogg
slogg

More proof? Where was there any proof shown in the first place? I missed it if there were some proof here. Please repost the proof.

bodhi
bodhi

no

slogg
slogg

Bodhi… because you can’t. Go ahead, spout some irrelevant crapola about how you are above responding to my argument, all the while ignoring that you snipe from the sidelines and that can in no way be construed as some moral high road.

It is called being a hypocrite.

eugenekalmes
eugenekalmes
accuchip
accuchip

Wanda
Shut the fuck up

solarain
solarain

com’on guys, give peas a chance

accuchip,

The lemon thing is great. You might want to look up the health benefits of apple cider vinegar. It is highly under rated. One sip of that will instantly cure acid reflux and heartburn (no waiting for the chalky stuff to mask the problem) I buy it buy the gallon and keep a 1 pint bottle on the counter, drink it right out of the bottle, it’s good for everything!

@marhuff,

I would look into MMS for your daughter. It’s cheap and it works miracles. Here is Jim’s site: http://jimhumble.biz/ . Calcium Hypoclorite (pool shock) would be the way to go for aggressive cancer. The protocols are on the site.

bodhi
bodhi

haha… it might shock you to know that I don’t owe you anything..

in my opinion you are coming off as a disinfo agent.. Furthermore the more i think on it the more logical it seems.. particularly when i consider the timing of your “return” to the boards…

I don’t care either way.. I’m not afraid of disinfo..or its agents

slogg
slogg

No… accuchip… i will not shut up. The bullshit that gets flung around on this site needs to be called for what it is. Too bad for some that they might be held to account for the things they put out in the world. That they might be made to back up the crap they spew.

slogg
slogg

Bodhi… this is not high school. People are suffering, people are dying. You act is if it is all a game. You’re lack of respect is glaring…

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Looks like they were attcked successfully.

https://www.cia.gov/offices-of-cia/intelligence-analysis/index.html

Bet you won;t find it in the propoganda media

bodhi
bodhi

you arent in any position to comment on my level of respect

accuchip
accuchip

So as official bullshit police watchman do you have some criteria we should all follow before we post. Like we have to prove it to wanda or we will be subjected to an hour long prove your bullshit fight.

Neo
Neo

Now when the outer heavens had been consolidated along with their forces and all their administration, the Demiurge (yaldabaoth aka jehovah/yahweh) became insolent. And he was honored by an army of angels who gave blessing and honor to him.

And for his part he was delighted and boasted to them, “Lo, I have no need of anyone else, no other gods.” He said, “It is I who am god, and no others exist apart from me.” On The Origin Of The World

Arrogant by nature, the Demiurge deems himself to be at the center of creation, lord of all he beholds. He is an insane and demented god, an imposter deity.

God exists, but he is insane. He works against humanity. We coexist in a planetary system with a demented entity who can access our world through our minds.

Humanity walks between two worlds. One world created for us by the Archons, a world of delusion, darkness and death. On the other, a world of truth, light and life.

Neo

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Thus you either PROVE or DISPROVE a hypothesis/theory.
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You attempt to prove or disprove; actually, you are showing evidence which is support of proving or disproving. Otherwise, they’d shoot at the target once and be done with it. But, they don’t call it a LAW, they call it a THEORY after they’ve “proven it”?

We throw around these terms as if they are concrete.

Sure, we can feel pretty certain that the sun is going to rise in the east every morning and that when we wake up, we’ll step down on the floor and walk and not float. We’ve formed our beliefs based upon our own scientific experimentation since birth. We have scientists coming out with contradictory studies all the time; first eat this, then don’t eat this. Their scientific method gave them a working theory.

I still believe that we can reason and find truth, but no one has 100% of it and we can suffer consequences for not finding it.

slogg
slogg

Yes i am. A new day is dawning. Sunshine is flooding into dark places. Works plotted in windowless rooms are coming to light. People need to challenge each other to live honestly, to live morally and to create the type of world we all can flourish in… that is love, that is light. People are waking up to masonry and it’s hold on America daily. It will have the effect of a fission bomb.

The way of darkness and secrets is the way of the mason… the game is up… your way is the way of the dinosaur. That day is done… the world is spitting it out.

accuchip
accuchip

NEO
Your slugg please

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

LAW

1) An empirical generalization; a statement of a biological principle that appears to be without exception at the time it is made, and has become consolidated by repeated successful testing; rule (Lincoln et al., 1990)

2) A theoretical principle deduced from particular facts, applicable to a defined group or class of phenomena, and expressible by a statement that a particular phenomenon always occurs if certain conditions be present (Oxford English Dictionary as quoted in Futuyma, 1979).

3) A set of observed regularities expressed in a concise verbal or mathematical statement. (Krimsley, 1995).

THEORY

1) The grandest synthesis of a large and important body of information about some related group of natural phenomena (Moore, 1984)

2) A body of knowledge and explanatory concepts that seek to increase our understanding (“explain”) a major phenomenon of nature (Moore, 1984).

3) A scientifically accepted general principle supported by a substantial body of evidence offered to provide an explanation of observed facts and as a basis for future discussion or investigation (Lincoln et al., 1990).

4) 1. The abstract principles of a science as distinguished from basic or applied science. 2. A reasonable explanation or assumption advanced to explain a natural phenomenon but lacking confirming proof (Steen, 1971). [NB: I don’t like this one but I include it to show you that even in “Science dictionaries” there is variation in definitions which leads to confusion].

5) A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and is propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles or causes of something known or observed. (Oxford English Dictionary, 1961; [emphasis added]).

6) An explanation for an observation or series of observations that is substantiated by a considerable body of evidence (Krimsley, 1995).

darylluke
darylluke

**DINARIAN UPDATE**

Hammerman Chat Posted by Toby at PTR 04/23/2012

hammerman: 4-23-2012 WELL WELL WELL ,,,HERE WE GO AGAIN ,,THIS IS WHAT I’M HEARING ,,FIRST, NOT SURE IF I BELIEVE THIS ONE ,,,THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE BEING TENDED TO IN IRAQ AND KWT. SOMETHING TO DO WITH COMPUTER SYSTEMS [[[HARD TO EXPLAIN IN PRINT]]]] LIKE THEIR SET UPS ARE NOT INTEGRATED TO NEW BASIL 3 OR NEW WORD UPDATES ,,NOT SURE IF I BELIEVE IT ,,,,,,

THIS IS THE PLACE I REALLY THINK WE ARE ,,,, OUR BANKS HAVE THE RATES [[[CODED ]]] AT ALL BANK LEVELS ,, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF ALL HANDS- I DO MEAN ALL- OTHER THEN THE BANKS

THEY HAVE TRIED TO PROCESS THIS EVENT SINCE LATE LAST NITE AN KEEP TRYING EVERY FEW HOURS ,,,, THERE ARE 12 IN FIRST BASKET ALL RATES WERE SET BACK IN JAN.

THEY CAN ONLY MOVE UP ARE DOWN 2%. WELL, THERE IS TROUBLE SINCE JAN.. MOST HAVE MOVED MORE THEN THAT ,, SO SINCE LATE LAST NITE THEY HAVE FOUND AT LEAST 9 ISSUES- SO ALL THEY CAN DO IS SEND BACK ONE AT A TIME TO B.I.S. TO BE ADJUSTED. EVERY IT IS THE SYSTEM JUST STOPS AN LOCKS EACH SO THE SHORT ON IT ,,,, THE BANKS DO HAVE RATE LOCKED AND LIVE [[[CODED ]]] BUT ON THE SIDE OF IT SAYS T.B.L ,,TO BE RELEASED LATER . THIS I FACT I HAVE SEEN IT ATLEAST 3 TIMES ,,,, SO ALL I CAN SAY IS WE WAIT AN WAIT ,,,,,LIVE,,, LOVE,,AN LEARN ILL TRY TO EXPLAIN BETTER ON A COMING CALL. ITS HARD TO FIGURE IT OUT

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

No one is LMAO’ing…..how come? sad. ;(

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ Wanda, I responded to your post but was not really directing that AT you earlier. Wanted to clarify.

slogg
slogg

phx… i can buy that. I am in 100% agreement with you post on LAW and thank you for your clear headedness, which my spellchecker is telling me is not a word, but there you have it.

kodo
kodo

Now for something completely different.

This product I have used for a number of years and have seen a demonstration like the one in the following video.

This is the most amazing auto/truck engine product I have ever encountered. It pays for itself just with the increased fuel economy alone.

Here is the vid,

http://youtu.be/rQDPMrjLt58

If you want to order some it is cheaper at this site,

http://www.ixlamerica.com/index.asp

darylluke
darylluke

Evike,

WHY do you even respond to an ASSHOLE LIKE THIS???
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 1:09 am

She/IT pisses on you publicly repeatedly, and you keep replying back. (I cannot comprehend why you reply)

FUCK THAT ARROGANT DISRESPECTFUL BITCH! 🙁

~darylluke.

evike
evike

I cannot recount the many times i have been used as an angel. I love when that happens.

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 4:33 am

Yeh, you have been used as a FALLEN angel, now that I believe, and this is coming from a better source than me, so believe it.

She is arguing to avoid proving how she got proof on the people who do not put a picture in their avatar box.

So prove this Wanda, and this is for calling me a Freak,
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

there are some here that don’t post their pictures “but i also have proof of them being who they are…”

it’s not as difficult as the motor vehicle department would have you beLIEve.

Comment by slogg on April 21, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

darylluke
darylluke

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:38 am

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!

DOUBLE & TRIPLE UP ON THAT ALUMINUM, WOULD YOU? PLEASE? 🙂

~darylluke.

evike
evike

Slogg or is it slugg, you might be well read, but lack common sense and respect, which to me and to most people is what matters.

– You have also used my words “Blossom” the other day.

– and you have also used my words, God is in everything, God is in Nature.

So I can’t be that much of a Freak if my words are good enough for you to use, because you haven’t got it in your soul to use your own.

Neo
Neo

An argument with slogg, fine fiction at its best.

BFCer: Yes caleb, I think the theoretical molecular quantum flux capacitor integrated with individualized intention will revolutionalize our world.

Slogg: I wholeheartedly agree expect for that flux capacitor thingy, prove it isn’t not unmake believe.

BFCer: It’s a molecular quantum flux capacitor which is a theoretical model of….

Slogg: You mean its theoretical bullshit! Damn you’re a complete jackass. You are totally stupid and I can prove it mathematically.

BFCer: Well first of all slogg, it’s not called a flux capacitor thingy, it’s called a molecular quantum flux capacitor.

Slogg: Then why did you say thingy? You moron!

BFCer: I didn’t say thingy, you said thingy.

Slogg: Do you mean to tell me you have never said the word thingy in your hole life? You are a hypocrite!

BFCer: I’m done arguing with you slogg.

Slogg: That’s because you’re a disinfo bullshit artist.
Well, it looks like I won another argument! Damn I’m good!

LMAO

Neo

slogg
slogg

Look how childish you are. No wonder your world is closing in on you.

Evike, if you had any spirituality in you, you wouldn’t ask for proof that i’ve been used as an angel because each and every human soul has been, at one time or another, been used as an angel, or have been sent an angel… and we all know it, so the proof is self evident. Perhaps, angel is not the correct term… not the term you would choose, but then you would have to take another look at your “penpal” Angel, then, wouldn’t you?

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

@ Wanda,

So, scientists and researchers are groping about to identify theories and consolidate them into a law which is further tested…but they didn’t CREATE the laws.

Only sovereign deity can make (create, establish) a law.

Working backwards,

When you find a law, such as the laws of the United States and our Bill of Rights, Constitution, then you look to the one(s) who made the laws and you will find the deity. In our country’s case, it’s “We the People”. Our laws are humanistic. You can find certain shreds of principles from Torah there… that came from Alfred the Great’s dooms, down through the common law, etc. But the founding scoundrels made it clear that WE THE PEOPLE established laws.

So, if people want to throw out Mother Gaia as their god, then what are her laws?

Muslims have Sharia law and the Koran, so we can study it and evaluate it to see if Allah’s laws pass the muster. We use logic and apply reasoning.

In the end, our opinion does not change the validity of what is true, and does not keep us from suffering the consequence or penalty of being a cave slave without a light.

I agree with you that we must evaluate and seek truth, all the while understanding our plight as human beings.

slogg
slogg

neo…

How can anyone win an argument with a sworn liar? And, you aren’t even arguing, you’re slinging insults… not impressive.

accuchip
accuchip

Yes i am. A new day is dawning. Sunshine is flooding into dark places. Works plotted in windowless rooms are coming to light. People need to challenge each other to live honestly, to live morally and to create the type of world we all can flourish in… that is love, that is light. People are waking up to masonry and it’s hold on America daily. It will have the effect of a fission bomb.
The way of darkness and secrets is the way of the mason… the game is up… your way is the way of the dinosaur. That day is done… the world is spitting it out.
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Soooo if you don’t agree with Wanda you are a Mason. And as the self appointed bullshit police monitor of Ben Fulford’s Blog Wanda will be the high priestess of light in the new day.

LMFAO

slogg
slogg

I came here for an argument…

http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

Neo
Neo

Or… use a different baking soda… i guess one with the aluminum. I hate Bob’s Red Mill… have you ever drank some with water for settling a gassy stomach? It’s horrible. I’m afraid i’ll take the aluminum when i do that… and i know several others that do too.

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 7:38 am
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First of all, baking soda only has sodium bicarbonate in it. It’s Baking powder has sodium aluminum sulfate.

The proof: It’s on my Arm & Hammer baking soda box. I also have a Walmart brand baking soda too and it only has sodium bicarbonate in it also.

My can of baking powder has the ingredients on it and one of those ingredients is sodium aluminum sulfate.

I know slogg, the boxes and can are stupid right?

Neo

XL

Re: Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 9:07 am
>I do want proof XL.

Okay, pick a particular topic, and I’ll see what I can dig up for you.

evike
evike

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:16 am

You created your own prison, like someone said the other day, that I posted.

My friend would not give you the time of day, in fact she said you are an ENERGY SAPPER. Every Monday morning it is the same, you sap the energy for the week, if you really must know here comments about you, well you asked for it.

You just can’t stand POSITIVE ENERGY, so change your mind more than anyone I have ever come across.

And as for you making a good ATTORNEY, as was said today, God help AMERICA with your unreasonable arguments.

It’s only your side that is the true side according to you. Well I got bad news for you, you are wrong, because you are 75% bad sided FALLEN ANGEL and 25% maybe possibility, if your lucky to be rescued.

LIVE AND LET LIVE, ALLOW FREE WILL, you are not judge or boss of no one here.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

I came here for an argument…
http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:23 am
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Now that’s truly LMAO material. Loved it!

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:23 am
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I love monty python. “Oh this is abuse arguments are in 12C”.

Neo
Neo

neo…

How can anyone win an argument with a sworn liar? And, you aren’t even arguing, you’re slinging insults… not impressive.

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:18 am
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LMAO

I like to call it a perceptive parody.

Neo

evike
evike

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:18 am

Back off to XL, Fuck you Evike, and called me Freak, and one time when you left for a few days, your parting words were,
FUCK THE LOT OF YOU.

You are not just delusional but have a short memory as well,
and a sexually frustrated woman, I would say. Who knows, there might be someone around the corner you could satisfy you.

Good nite

Neo
Neo

And as for you making a good ATTORNEY, as was said today…..

Comment by evike on April 24, 2012 @ 10:29 am
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While I dislike attorneys, that’s a slurr against them if I ever heard one.

LMAO

Neo

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In Re: Kodo, April 24th, @ 9:55 am

Thank you for this posting Kodo, not to mention directing US away from the back-biting going on lately.

I’ve used synthetic lubricants for years on every combustible engine I acquired, especially my ultralight aircraft. My Ford Ranger truck has over 250,000 miles on it and it still runs like new.

I will differently procure this product.

Again, thanks for the info, Bro.

Respectfully,

Michael

slogg
slogg

I know slogg, the boxes and can are stupid right?

Oh, was that necessary?

My box of Arm & Hammer says… Active Ingredient is Sodium Bicarbonate… it does not say it is the only ingredient… but that is good to know… i’m going to use it anyhow because Bob’s tastes horrid.

I wonder why Bob’s Red Mill states aluminum free…
http://www.vitacost.com/Bobs-Red-Mill-Aluminum-Free-Baking-Soda

slogg
slogg

So what? So what Evike… what’s the big deal with you? Why can you get past it?

pansy
pansy

I’ve been only scanning tonight as it appears there is mostly just back and forth arguing…again!

Does anyone have any thoughts or comments regarding my entry as to WHY we’ve been covered in radioactive fallout for years and, so far, we all seem to be fine for the most part? I’d really like some input on this…but only if you have time between all the incessant arguing.

Thanks in advance.

Pansy

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

neo…
How can anyone win an argument with a sworn liar? And, you aren’t even arguing, you’re slinging insults… not impressive.
Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:18 am
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LMAO
I like to call it a perceptive parody.
Neo

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Maybe more like virtual slapstick…

slogg
slogg

Proof of aliens (from outer space) on this planet… and thank you.

evike
evike

Sorry Mozart, but I think this is worth posting just in case some have not had the chance to see it, she insults me and others and we are expected to be tolerant. Her nicy nicy attitude is very short lived

Come on, guys, why the attacks on Wanda?

She’s a smart cookie, man. “Shit for brains?” You wish.

She’s assertive, quite opinionated, rather argumentative and a bit stubborn like a pit bull in a debate — people usually don’t like that in a woman, ya know.

She’d be a great Attorney, imo.

But, Caleb, unless I missed your point, she’s very much for real.

And she has a soft side to her, a gentle side to her once one gets past that tough, assertive exterior that she has. She has a big heart and cares about a lot of things that we also care about (environment, children, etc).

Debate with Wanda, if you wish, but don’t insult her, nor call her names, etc.

Comment by mozart on April 23, 2012 @ 10:13 pm

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by pansy on April 24, 2012 @ 10:42 am
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What do you mean incessant arguing Pansy? Don’t start with me! 🙂

kodo
kodo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-ZaU6FHNw. PART 1.2.3 ALMOST 6HOURS INTERVIEW.
Brilliant interview by Kerry Cassidy with A’shayana Deane.
Worth watching – It makes you realise that the things we are focus on are nothing compare with what is happening off world. Some of her information is also similar to what Alex Collier and Goerge Kassavalis? (might be the wrong spelling).
A’shyana Deane’s knowledge is outstanding in my view.

Comment by solojazz1 on April 24, 2012 @ 4:13 am

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I agree A’shayana Deane has a very interesting take on things.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Lucifer wants to be worshipped as the God he defied… Whether you believe that or not the point is these are the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows…. The rulers believed it…

Comment by eugenekalmes on April 24, 2012 @ 3:19 am
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Yes, these ARE the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows.

slogg
slogg

That’s a good question Pansy… subjective, but still a good question. Why do plants still grow, because it is my understanding they should just wilt and die… nothing grows in radiation.

Had that argument with a friend in my kitchen yesterday who believed there are actual organisms that thrive in radiation, that grow out of it… i was able to show him that he was incorrect.

slogg
slogg

Let’s get one thing straight… attorneys are sworn liars, as are the judges. They don’t get too far if they are not.

William Cooper interviews a 32nd Degree Freemason

Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EOhW8ovbWk

This is, in fact, how our country was taken over, and dismantling it will get our country back. It’s all in here… there is much to learn, and it is quite the eye opener.

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by pansy on April 24, 2012 @ 10:42 am
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I assume you are referring to the radiation from the nuke tests in the 50’s and 60’s. The radioactivity probably did have a detrimental effect but you can’t measure the effect because at the same time every other toxin was introduced like cleaners, insecticides, weed killers, irradiated food, and all of the other new carcinogens designed to make our lives better.

Neo
Neo

My box of Arm & Hammer says… Active Ingredient is Sodium Bicarbonate… it does not say it is the only ingredient…

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:41 am
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Well my Arm & Hammer box states exactly:

INGREDIENT: Sodium Bicarbonate

I guess my box is better than your box.

LMAO

Neo

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Neo; Wouldn’t be more appropriate (safer) to be assisted by a legal consultant then hire an attorney. Attorney, to my understanding means they just turn everything around so they can dictate to the “Ward of the Court” the poor victimized client. Where a lawyer is more like an interpreter of the Law.

Isn’t it possible to hire a Lawyer as a legal consultant rather then letting him represent you in the Court venue so as not to wave your (God Given) UN-a-lien-able rights in proper standing? I don’t know, just my reasoning.

Also, even if you were not a Lawyer or licensed with the Bar, could one still have you as a consultant in Court. I’m aware, they can not speak for you, but they can be next to you assisting your Claim/Presentments, or what-ever.

Always enjoy your comments. I liked your rifle toting avatar. Shows a firm standing in LAW.

Respectfully,

Michael

slogg
slogg

Luciferian belief is that man can become God. And do what thou whilst is their credo. Their plan is called the “great work” and they consider themselves “light workers”.

Neo
Neo

Lucifer wants to be worshipped as the God he defied… Whether you believe that or not the point is these are the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows…. The rulers believed it…

Comment by eugenekalmes on April 24, 2012 @ 3:19 am
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Yes, these ARE the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on April 24, 2012 @ 10:53 am
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I believe you guys have the right to worship any devil you want.

Neo

darylluke
darylluke

**DINARIAN UPDATE**

Soonerfan62 in chat at Intel4u Mon evening 04/23/2012

[Soonerfan62] Good evening guys, before I came on I counted the made and received calls today since 7 am this morning, there were 42. When Bella and Jonny tell you we are working hard to verify the intel that has been coming in all day, they were not kidding.

I will tell you what I can and that is I have never been so sure about this investment as I have been today. When and how much, no one knows but I will assure you all of us can’t be hearing the same thing from different sources as we have today. Never have I been told so many times in one day not to put something out on the boards. Guys like Bella said, get your act together NOW, believe me that is great advise.

[Soonerfan62] Just know all of us will be on the phones all night if necessary to get the REAL truth about this investment

slogg
slogg

neo… okay, you’re right… i made a typo. It does say active ingredient (no ‘s’)… it does not say only ingredient… why the distinction? I think that is a fair question. If you have a tube of zinc oxide and it is white and creamy, well clearly it isn’t 100% zinc oxide even if it does state active ingredient zinc oxide… right?

slogg
slogg

neo…

You do have the right to worship any deity you wish… you do not have the right to deceive and enslave people… would you agree with that?

timthomasfl954
timthomasfl954

Sadly it’s an implied marketing ploy – identify something that can be easily accepted as unique product characteristic differentiator.

Their unusual labeling made me ask why that before. From a prior reply to product inquiry.

“Thank you for taking the time to contact Church & Dwight Co., Inc. regarding ARM & HAMMER® Baking Soda.
In response to your inquiry, ARM & HAMMER® Baking Soda is 100% sodium bicarbonate and does not contain aluminum.”

evike
evike

Comment by eugenekalmes on April 24, 2012 @ 3:19 am
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Yes, these ARE the religious beliefs and rituals in the shadows.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on April 24, 2012 @ 10:53 am
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I believe you guys have the right to worship any devil you want.

Neo

I can feel love brewing between those two – both single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L8jNBC9pbk
Elvis Presley – Love Me Tender (music & lyrics)

Love me tender,
love me sweet,
never let me go.
You have made my life complete,
and I love you so.

Love me tender,
love me true,
all my dreams fulfilled.
For my darlin’ I love you,
and I always will.

Love me tender,
love me long,
take me to your heart.
For it’s there that I belong,
and we’ll never part.

slogg
slogg

Thank you TimThomas.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Comment by Neo on April 24, 2012 @ 11:04 am
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In this country whose God is really WE THE PEOPLE (man), I guess you do. Until those laws crumble because they are not built on the foundation of eternal truth.

wangmo
wangmo

I’m starting to wonder what happened to B.F’s announcement last month that the Pope would resign April 15 and that there would be mass arrests in March. It seems cruel to get peoples’ hopes up and then not have any sign of the “promises” happening!

Neo
Neo

>Isn’t it possible to hire a Lawyer as a legal consultant
>rather then letting him represent you in the Court venue
>so as not to wave your (God Given) UN-a-lien-able rights >in proper standing? I don’t know, just my reasoning.

Neo:
You might find one who will help you with the papework for a sizable fee I’m sure but I doubt they would counsel you in a court. The judge would probably have a major problem with that. Most lawyers are scared stiff of the judges because they can make or break their career.

>Also, even if you were not a Lawyer or licensed with the
>Bar, could one still have you as a consultant in Court.
>I’m aware, they can not speak for you, but they can be
>next to you assisting your Claim/Presentments, or what-ever.

Neo:
A judge may have a problem with a non-bar counsel but when you remind the judge of their rights allowing counsel they will usually back down. They don’t want to divulge their hand too early.

>Always enjoy your comments. I liked your rifle toting
>avatar. Shows a firm standing in LAW.

Neo:
My current avatar represents the many sides of Neo. Thanks Michael.

Comment by ugmmichael on April 24, 2012 @ 11:02 am

Neo

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Comment by ugmmichael on April 24, 2012 @ 11:02 am
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In Arizona (and possibly other states) an attorney can represent a client on limited scope. In the past, if an attorney filed a Notice of Appearance, he was stuck in the action until released by the judge. There have been cases in the past where a litigant wanted to fire the attorney and the attorney wanted out also. The court said no.

Now, the attorney can jump in for a hearing and get out. He/She can also serve as advisory counsel during hearings/trial, and the court will let the attorney jump in as needed if things aren’t going well.

Saves money and prevents that ward situation you’re talking about. Attorneys are quite hungry these days, it’s amazing to see on Craig’s list how they’ve lowered their prices, especially in states that have document preparers.

Neo
Neo

Comment by Neo on April 24, 2012 @ 11:04 am
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In this country whose God is really WE THE PEOPLE (man), I guess you do. Until those laws crumble because they are not built on the foundation of eternal truth.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on April 24, 2012 @ 11:13 am
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It’s not my fault that your god is my devil, that’s just the way it is.

Do I just pretend we believe in the same god?

I have never condemned you for your beliefs, that would be just plain stupid of me.

Jesus said straight is the way and narrow is the path and few there are that take it. (paraphrased)

If you follow the crowd are you following the narrow path?

Neo

kodo
kodo

If I get acid reflex/heartburn/indigestion/ take 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a 1/2 glass water and boom heartburn gone.

marhuff if ingesting baking soda it is best to get Aluminum free stuff which is ‘bob’s red mill’ brand available for $1.50 a pound from

http://vitacost.com

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

Was referring to the court system as it has degenerated into Admiralty and part of the bankruptcy, not speaking to a Sovereign citizen trying to deal with the Admiralty, statutory system.

infrared0
infrared0

Comment by aircow on April 24, 2012 @ 8:32 am

I third that, I admire a woman with guts, I married one.

Neo
Neo

Sorry about the lengthy post.

Who is Jehovah/Yahweh?

There is far more to this writing than the title, as you will soon find out. It is time to awake to the light for we have been asleep in darkness far too long. There will be those who refuse to accept the Truth in any form. Through the traditions of men and our egos we fail to understand the message Jesus brought to the world.

That’s why Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If we are going to find this path to salvation, we will need to go on the narrow path where few people walk. We need to think outside the box that the world has created for us and seek the Truth for ourselves because following the crowd will lead us into destruction.

Matthew 7:15-22: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

And what are these fruits you ask? Galatians 5:22-24: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

And yet there are those Christians who believe that if you ask Jesus into your heart you are saved and saved forever. These are the people who appear holy and righteous on Sundays before their church buddies but whose actions are lying, treacherous and vile. These people lie and deceive in the name of Jesus because they believe they are saved. If this is what you believe the YOU ARE DECEIVED!

You have no truth in you because you follow your father the devil. Remember in Matthew 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Now let’s compare the words of Jesus in the New Testament with the words of Jehovah in the Old Testament and maybe Jehovah will reveal himself.

Acts 26:18: To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins…..

Here, Paul is talking about turning from darkness which is Satan and towards the light which is God. Because you see, God is light, God is all light and in him there is no darkness. Just as described in James 1:17: Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

The Father of lights is God of course and as stated in that verse, there is no variableness of the light not even a shadow. This is the God Jesus brought to the Jews and to us.

God, the Father is also Love as described in 1 John 4:7-8: Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

God, the father is not a liar as in Hebrew 6:18: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

The Spirit which comes from God the Father produces only good fruit while the fruit of the flesh produces only evil fruit. Galatians 5:16-21: This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

In summary, we find that God the Father is love, He does not lie, and He is the light, He is all light without darkness. He is also joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, which are the fruits of the Holy Spirit. He is all good and there is no evil in him.

Now we have the traits to look for in regards to Jehovah/Yahweh, god of the Old Testament. The traits of God the Father came from Jesus. Let’s measure the fruits of Jehovah and compare them to the fruits of God the Father. After all, that is the God Jesus brought to us. Let’s take a look at the Old Testament. A special note: In the King James Version of the Old Testament when the word “LORD” is used in capitals the accurate translation is “Jehovah”. So I insert the name “Jehovah” is parenthesis next to “LORD”.

Jehovah is a liar and speak evil things as he clearly states and actually brags about in 1 Kings 22:23: Now therefore, behold, the LORD (Jehovah) hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD (Jehovah) hath spoken evil concerning thee.

2 Chronicles 18:22: Now therefore, behold, the LORD (Jehovah) hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD (Jehovah) hath spoken evil against thee.

And in Ezekiel 14:9: And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD (Jehovah) have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

There are other Old Testament scriptures stating more lies and deceptions of Jehovah, but I think you get the picture. You will also note that 1 Kings 22:23 and 2 Chronicles 18:22 are identical, this is not an error on my part, they are identical in the Bible.

And Jehovah sends evil spirits as in Judges 9:23: Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

So I ask you, what is the fruit of Jehovah? Lies, evil and death that’s what! What does that have to do with the Fruits of the Holy Spirit? Absolutely nothing!

Now, the New Testament says in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Again, there are many other scriptures where Jehovah sends a lying spirit to one of his prophets or kings like he did with the Egyptian Pharaoh. But the fact remains that Jehovah is the one that brings about the lie, the father of all lies. This is obviously not God the Father that Jesus speaks of.

Jehovah is the king of darkness and resides in that darkness. God the Father is the light as we have already seen. He has nothing to do with darkness and doesn’t deal with it in any capacity. Jehovah not only claims to have created darkness but he also claims to have created evil.

1 Kings 8:12: Then spake Solomon, The LORD (Jehovah) said that he would dwell in thick darkness.

2 Chronicles 6:1: Then said Solomon, The LORD (Jehovah) said that he would dwell in thick darkness.

Amos 5:18: Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD (Jehovah)! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD (Jehovah) is darkness, and not light.

Zephaniah 1:14-15: The great day of the LORD (Jehovah) is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD (Jehovah): the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness.

Lamentations 3:2: He hath led me, and brought me into darkness, but not into light.

2 Samuel 22:10: He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.

Jeremiah 13:16: Give glory to the LORD (Jehovah) your God, before he cause darkness, and before your feet stumble upon the dark mountains, and, while ye look for light, he turn it into the shadow of death, and make it gross darkness.

Psalms 18:11: He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

Isaiah 45:3: And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD (Jehovah), which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

Again, Jehovah not only claims to have created darkness but he also created evil.

Isaiah 45:7: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD (Jehovah) do all these things.

Now, who do you honestly think Jehovah really is? Not sure yet? Allow me to continue.

Jehovah is a murderer from the beginning and he’s proud of that too! This god thinks nothing of killing men, women and children. There is so much Old Testament scripture here it would take pages and pages, but I’ll show you a few of those verses here.

Exodus 12:29-30: And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD (Jehovah) smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.

Joshua 6:20-21: So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Numbers 16:32-35: And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.

Deuteronomy 2:33-34: And the LORD (Jehovah) our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

Hosea 13:16: Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

Do you honestly think the God that Jesus testified to is the same god that kills men, women and children to satisfy his blood lust, who creates evil, lies like a rug and lives in darkness? If you think this is the same god then you have to believe that good is evil and evil is good. Isaiah 5:20: Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Jehovah/Yahweh is in fact SATAN. The god of this world, the god of this universe, the god that created all flesh on this earth!

Remember what the New Testament says in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is the ego that will destroy those who refuse to seek the truth for the truth is from the Holy Spirit. Unless you become as teachable as a little child, you shall not ever see the Kingdom of God. Remember, Jesus brought to us the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. We are saved through our faith and knowledge of the Most High God.

Matthew 6:33: But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Mark 10:14-15: …..Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Mark:1:14: …..Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

Luke 8:1: And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him

Luke 1:77: To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Don’t misunderstand the following verse, the word “lawyers” is a translation from “teachers of the law” which of course is the law of Moses.

Luke 11:52: Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

The above verse also pertains to virtually every preacher that has walked on this Earth after around 350 AD.

Romans 11:33: O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

One last thing to consider if you still refuse to accept the fact that Jehovah is Satan.

Exodus 33:11: And the LORD (Jehovah) spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend…….

Here it clearly states that Moses spoke with Jehovah face to face and yet Jesus states that no man has seen God at any time.

John 1:18: No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Now who would you believe, Jesus or Moses.

OK, one last example.

The Most High God does not want us to fear him. Fear has no place where love prevails.
1 John 4: 16-19: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us.

However, Jehovah demands you fear him or pay the consequences of his wrath.

Deuteronomy 6:13: Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.

Deuteronomy 10:20: Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.

Joshua 4:24: That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the LORD, that it is mighty: that ye might fear the LORD your God forever.

1 Samuel 12:24: Only fear the LORD, and serve him in truth with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you.

Psalms 22:23: Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

There are many more scriptures where Jehovah demands you fear him. This is a far cry from what the New Testament says about the Most High God. If you are not convinced by now, you never will be.

God Bless.

phxvalleygirl
phxvalleygirl

It’s not my fault that your god is my devil, that’s just the way it is.
Do I just pretend we believe in the same god?
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I think that is a good starting point. All the same and for the record, your gods are my devils.

slogg
slogg

Awwww… thank you infrared… and you too aircow… i missed that in the fray. Thank you so much.

slogg
slogg

phx… that is a good starting point… your God is my God too, for the record… and their gods are my devils too.

Because i believe in freedom and in truth… and i want a better world for all of creation.

deester
deester

Aw-w-w crap – The Bilderberg/UN Shill is winning the election in my province.

darylluke
darylluke

ALL intel providers are being vague today.
(Tells me they all got warned again today by Secret service)

Even OKIE has not even posted today!

I wonder what Paladin & T-Man says about disposition of GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS presently?
(Too bad the assholes on this forum chased them away FOR A SECOND TIME.Their input was invaluable, imo, when they were here…)

~darylluke.

Neo
Neo

I think that is a good starting point. All the same and for the record, your gods are my devils.

Comment by phxvalleygirl on April 24, 2012 @ 11:37 am
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So the God that Jesus introduced to the world is your devil? OK, I can go with that.

Neo

wovolve42
wovolve42
kodo
kodo

I think wanda is a real master when it comes to bullshit detection.

slogg
slogg

neo…

The name Jesus is forbidden within the lodge.

wovolve42
wovolve42

Kuuleimomi – it is nice to see you…havent seen you in while 🙂

infrared0
infrared0

Have always loved this quote from Wayne Madsen – especially the bit about fairy tales.
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Wayne Madsen: The Israeli Lobby owns the Congress, media, Hollywood, Wall Street, both political parties, and the White House. This kind of talk will get people fired by this lobby, as we have seen recently with White House correspondent Helen Thomas and CNN anchor Rick Sanchez.

However, many Americans are growing tired of the arrogance of the Israel Lobby and their bigoted attitudes toward anyone who challenges their influence-peddling and their ridiculous insistence that Israel must be supported because of some ancient fairy tales involving some tribes who wandered the deserts of the Middle East and saw and heard non-existent things because of sun stroke, drinking bad water, and smoking local hallucinogenic plants.
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pansy
pansy

Comment by deester on April 24, 2012 @ 8:03 am

Deester,

Thanks for checking in and I’ll await your next report.

Pansy

pansy
pansy

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:53 am

Wanda,

Thank you for responding to my inquiry. I see I got you thinking with your ‘common sense’ cap on too. Still, the question remains…why, if we’ve had radiation rained on us for decades are so many of us thriving??? Anyone???

Merek…I specifically posed this question to you and will await your response with anticipation.

Pansy

slogg
slogg

Pansy… this post is for you…

http://www.henrymakow.com/jim_stone_-_fukushima_is_not_f.html

Hi Henry,

I saw this article that says Fukushima is falling apart and America has been irradiated.

Do you think this is just scare-mongering to get us all in a panic? Your thoughts would be much appreciated. This whole business is very stressful.

Thank you,
Charles

Jim Stone replies: Yes, it is Fear Mongering

You are hearing an enormous amount of lies coming out of Japan right now because those who perpetrated the crime know they have been exposed and that the high resolution photos totally blew it for them. They were NOT supposed to be released.

The explosion at #4 was caused by explosives, just like the WTC. Reactor 4 is building 7.

In the classified photos, you can look straight down the throat of the empty reactor, you can see the dome sitting in the service area, and you can clearly see that the service attachment the crane hooks onto, which will NOT be on the dome when the reactor is in operation, is ON THE DOME. Furthermore, in other not classified photos that are captures from live drone video feed, you can clearly see reactor 4’s dome is in perfect shape, with the bolts removed and hanging, as they would be during normal service.

It is highly unlikely that reactor 4’s containment is in a condition that would cause it to collapse, and if the reactor itself is going to fall over it’s meaningless, it’s just a shell with no core in it. If the structure itself fell over, it would not contribute to the disaster significantly, because the fuel rods will fall in solid pieces, and at #3 the explosion totally blew a real functioning core out of the reactor, and also blew the fuel pools away, while atomizing them to dust – the worst possible scenario.

All this hoopla about #4 is to cover what happened at #3. The worst possible disaster has already happened, which I reported a year ago and the classified photos PROVE IT.

Don’t let new lies cover up an old truth, Fukushima was sabotaged and destroyed with nuclear weapons, it’s especially obvious at #4, where evidence remains and was not totally blown away like it was at #3. These were low output nukes in the single digit kiloton range,

Here are the photos that prove everything I have said here; please ask detractors to present similar evidence DIRECTLY FROM THE SCENE rather than pretty hand drawn graphics and animations;

This photo clearly shows reactor 3 and its fuel pools are GONE.

This photo clearly shows reactor 4 was dis-assembled and DID NOT explode by itself, explosives HAD TO have been brought in.

And if that is not enough, This photo ought to make it obvious #4 really was dis-assembled.

And for those readers who may think I am just some idiot, with no credibility, I present this screen capture, which I would like Rense and Icke to try to get these guys to post for them as well if they are so damn smart: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/800fit.jpg

And, I will directly state to Rense and David Icke, you are information scammers, BOTH of you either linked or plagiarized my site, YOU KNOW THE TRUTH, and for whatever reasons you have been made to sit there and lie about what is going on out there at Fukushima. Your failure to report the truth will only serve to allow the “elite” to bring a similar 911 type disaster to some other victim nation, and justice would have it be yours.

That is, of course, if my site and those who linked prove to not be enough to stop them.

Jim Stone Freelancer – Whole Reply Here
http://jimstonefreelance.com/

XL

Re: Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:44 am
>Proof of aliens (from outer space) on this planet… and thank you.

Oh, you had to go and pick the biggest topic, didn’t ya? *groan*

First of all, we need to go into “what is an alien”… I would term that as any humanoid species that didn’t “evolve” on this planet.

So, how far back do we go?

Supposedly humans did not evolve until many millions of years after the dinosaurs went extinct, so how did these get here?

200 million year old footprint:
http://www.newscorners.com/200-million-years-old-giant-footprint-found-in-south-africa/

Human and dinosaur tracks together:
http://www.discoverynews.us/DISCOVERY%20MUSEUM/DinosaurWorld/DinosaurTracks/Dinosauar_Tracks_Display.html

Not to mention that footprints were not the only things found.

Hammer imbedded into fossilized stone:
http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/hamm0606m.jpg

Bell imbedded into fossilized stone:
http://secretaryofinnovation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dorchester-pot.jpg

Many-many other items have been found embedded in stone or coal beds…

Of course, all of this doesn’t indicate an “alien” presence, but it does show that humans have been on this planet far-far longer than we were led to believe. In fact, they were here during the time of the dinosaurs and were producing “modern technology” at that time. The only logical explanation of that is that they did not come from this planet originally.

That is hard to prove though, it is all circumstantial evidence. Start searching for “out of place artifacts” and you will find all sorts of evidence that shows that an advanced civilization existed here long before humans “evolved” on this planet.

So, moving to more recent times, zip ahead to less than a 100,000 years ago. We are now finding all sorts of cities in ruins that show advanced civilizations were creating buildings of huge proportions, at a time when humans were supposedly living in cave and hunting with sticks. And these included many paintings, carvings, and statues.

So what did they show about “alien” beings?

Ancient Egypt:
http://reprog.iblogger.org/myimgs/egyaln.jpg

Ancient Sumeria:
http://www.crystalinks.com/alieniraq.jpg

Ukraine:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufokiev.jpg

America:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufoindianscrash.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/utahpetroglyphs.jpg

Australia:
http://www.crystalinks.com/wandjina2.jpg

Hunting from a UFO in Japan:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufojapanbw.jpg

Ecuador:
http://www.ufo-contact.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/equador_alien_sculpture.jpeg

Hundreds of these statues and paintings… They all show that the classical “greys”, “reptilian” and other humanoid visitors were present. Do a search for ancient paintings of UFOs and you will find tons of these also. Especially interesting are the ones in the religious paintings, there were a LOT of UFOs depicted in those.

So who were they? If they were all one species, then we could say that they were the original inhabitants of this planet that are now hiding, but they are not. They are a mix of different species, so an ET origin makes the most sense.

What about physical evidence?

ET mummies:
http://img38.imagefra.me/i58v/kennet/hjc9_632_u8u0k.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/–vmCa5vpFdM/TyM6ZIVAGAI/AAAAAAAABx4/1SeNMUSFhjg/s400/mummies02peru.jpg

The starchild skull:
http://viewzone2.com/starchildx.html

X-ray of Egyptian skull:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8201/2340203411efd484eae0bmago6.jpg

Mayan skull:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/MSkl4.jpg

One of the biggest arguments I keep hearing from a lot of people is “if they are here, why don’t they show themselves?”. Well… There are a lot of reasons for that.

If you read through the Bible with that concept in mind, you’ll find that nearly half of that book talks about the times when they “did” show themselves, and they interacted with humans at that time. A lot of the ancient texts talk about those times.

At a certain point though, when they had felt assured that we could survive on our own, they left us alone to see how well we would do. They told us they’d be back when we were ready to move to the next step, and moved into an observing mode. They stay around to make sure we don’t go too far, but allowed us much room to make mistakes and (hopefull) learn from them.

They even placed a quarantine around the planet that prevented other ETs from interfering with us until we were ready. That is what 2012 is all about, and why we don’t see them daily.

I suppose I could go on for hours on this, the topic is just so vast. Is there a particular aspect of this you would like more information on?

darylluke
darylluke

Neo’s Q : “Who is Jehovah/Yahweh?”

A : Insane alien replacement. What he did to Abraham is proof enough. Everything else is supplementary proof for eyes to see.

~darylluke.

kodo
kodo

wanda

you say,

“so the proof is self evident” here

slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 10:16 am

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Guys it looks like slogg gave away the secret.

The fukn proof is SELF EVIDENT

When she demands proof say it is self evident.

Here’s the kicker, if you can’t see that it is self evident that proves you are suffering from a type of mental blindness or somethin.

pansy
pansy

I assume you are referring to the radiation from the nuke tests in the 50’s and 60’s. The radioactivity probably did have a detrimental effect but you can’t measure the effect because at the same time every other toxin was introduced like cleaners, insecticides, weed killers, irradiated food, and all of the other new carcinogens designed to make our lives better.

Comment by accuchip on April 24, 2012 @ 11:00 am

Accuchip,

Okay…so you are making a further point? We’re all still here and living to be record ages…so as Lucy would say “splain it Ricky”.

Pansy

darylluke
darylluke

Comment by slogg on April 24, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

The “victim nation” is not Japan, but is the globe.Japanese gubermint shills are aiding & abetting the cabal with their inaction. Russia and/or China will soon be doing something, yet that assistance may be too little, too late….sadly.

~darylluke.

darylluke
darylluke