First the evil Pope, then the dumb Secretary of Defense, now Netanyahu, next the Bush clan

The satanic cabal is suffering a series of catastrophic defeats. Like a snowball gradually turning larger, the removal of a few cabalists is now turning into an avalanche of losses for the cabal. The removal of Pope Maledict and the abdication of a several European royals is now being followed with the removal of key cabal power brokers in the United States. The low IQ, and easy to manipulate, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has been replaced with Ashton Carter, a polymath with a PHD in theoretical physics. Under cabal rule, meritocrats like Carter ran into a glass ceiling. The fact that such a man is now in the top post is a good sign but, Carter will have to show with his actions that he is on the right side. The early omens are good. The US military industrial complex is out to oust mass murdering psychopath Benyamin Netanyahu had have already managed to overthrow his government. The evidence presented in a British court that Netanyahu was one of the key planners of the 311 tsunami and nuclear mass murder attack was a key reason for his loss of support inside the military industrial complex as well as in the Israeli government, Mossad sources say.

As soon as the US move to oust Netanyahu was reported in Israeli newspapers, US President Barack Obama was sent to a top military hospital for “acid reflux.” MI5 sources say it was likely he was poisoned by people close to Netanyahu. What the people close to Netanyahu fail to realize is that even if they had killed Obama it would have made no difference because he is just a spokesperson for the military industrial complex. The military industrial complex has a lot more men with guns than the cabal could ever dream of defeating even with their usual tool of targeted assassinations.

The other big sign that it is not business as usual in Washington is the fact the US Congress passed legislation that amounted to a declaration of war against Russia

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/december/04/reckless-congress-declares-war-on-russia/

but this was ignored by both the military and the media. It means the cabal bribed fools in Congress have been removed from any real power.

The next thing the Joint Chiefs of Staff must do is to start rounding up and putting in jail the members of murderous Bush clan, starting with George Bush Sr.

In China as well, there was a very big move last week with the arrest of former top Security Chief Zhou Yongkang.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-12/06/c_127281433.htm

According to Chinese government sources, the removal of Zhou was

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Nine…

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Thanks Ben!

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Top ten?

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Can’t wait for the effects to trickle down to the Man on the street. 12 mths from now? Minimum income for all worlwide? Lower cost of living?

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Damn, Number 11, Well I had to read the article, it’s a good one.

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Under 20~

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carolm

I’m posting the Second Draft of the D of I in a series of posts.

I got in the Plato quote from Roy, lots of Caps on the important ideas from Michael, and I used the lobbiests term that I think Patricia came up with.

Here are the main objectives:
Objectives of declaration:
1.To establish the right to declare a change of focus from ‘independence’ to ‘interdependence’ for the benefit of all.
2.To establish the list of grievances and ‘facts’ supporting such a change.
3.To galvanize support.

To be done in a language of inclusion, and a reverance for the poetry of the words themselves. Distillation to the essential elements of brevity.

carolm
carolm

Part 1 (is this too long? edit suggestions?)

“”People and nations who understand the Natural Law are self-governing, following the principles of love and respect that insure freedom and peace.”
– Traditional Circle of Elders, NAVAJO-HOPI Joint Use Area

SECOND DRAFT
The Declaration of Interdependence

When in the course of events, it becomes necessary for all Citizens of this Earth to dissolve the political bonds which have disconnected them one from another and recognize that we cannot exist as a healthy planet without recognizing the Interconnectedness of One with the All.

The biosphere Connects us all through the dynamic Flow of resources, air, water, mineral, food, energy, ideas, and the Life Force of love. Constrictions upon the Flow of these resources impact the Vitality of individuals and the vitality of the Earth, as our Health as individuals is inseparable from a Dynamic and Living biosphere. Although the only thing we can really count on, as part of a dynamic system, is change itself, we can also acknowledge that the suffering of a part of the whole, or an individual or group, is felt by all on some level, and impacts the Health of the entire organism as disease. To move toward the Health of the biosphere of Earth requires this awareness: To harm another is to harm oneself. (Plato 4BC)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that each Citizen is endowed with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, self-will, and the pursuit of Happiness, and that each Citizen is also Connected to each other and to a greater all. We are free to act, but not free of our Connections to each other and to our Earth. Each action we take reverberates outwardly, impacting and patterning our collective Future. Any act of Forgiveness, Generosity, Courageous service, or Unconditional Love violates the basic assumptions of the world-view of individualistic separatism that underpins our current civilization.

There is a shrinking window of opportunity for our independence to come into balance with our Interdependence in order to right the current state of disequilibrium.

For too long our governments, economic systems and global corporations have been in service to the forces of greed disguised as the profit motive, resulting in an imbalance of wealth. These corporate entities are not citizens bound together by the Force of Life, and have been colluded to steal the wealth of the earth for the oligarchs of high finance. The Law has become a tool in the hands of a powerful few and it is now time to return it to the roots of natural law that unites all Citizens.

This imbalance of wealth is not only monetary wealth, but also the true wealth of Vitality, Health, Happiness and natural and social systems that function Fluidly rather than as obstacles. The current imbalances serve as blockages to the Vitality of the whole.

vermithrax
vermithrax

http://app.debka.com/n/article/24283/Obama-set-on-obstructing-Netanyahu’s-re-election
Indeed, all is not well between Israhell and the USSA…

carolm
carolm

Part 2:

This has been said before:

“ That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these citizens of earth; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present governments is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the citizens. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. “ (Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence)

1.Power has become concentrated into the hands of the few.
2.This power has been used against the benefit of the citizens of the earth and the earth itself, rendering air, water, minerals, species, and the health of beings of all kinds to suffer damage and extinction at an increasing rate.
3.This power has been used to create endless wars causing suffering, murder, destruction, with profit for the few.
4.This power has been used to limit and eliminate the resources of the earth against the benefit of the citizens of the planet and the planet itself. Damaging the air, fresh water, oceans, plants, and causing suffering to the citizens of the earth.
5.The living food of the earth has been contaminated with substances that cause starvation, cancer, obesity, chronic illness, suffering, and early death to the citizens of the earth.
6.The fresh water is becoming owned by corporations, and otherwise contaminated by mining practices, and metals dispersed into the air on a global scale. Aluminum, selenium and mercury are now present in alpine streams and lakes.
7.The oceans of the earth have many dead zones and the Citizens of the ocean and those that rely on it for their livelihood are facing extinction and suffering.
8.This power has been used for modifying the cycles of regeneration of plants by genetics to no longer freely reproduce, and to reproduce untested toxic elements.
9.This power has been used for Obstructing justice by allowing the huge crimes of bankers, corporations, governments, and their contractors and lobbiests go un-punished.
10.This power has been used for abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments.
11.For plundering our seas, ravaging our forests, burning our air, and destroying the lives of our people.
12.For transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. (original D.of I.)
13.This power has excited domestic insurrections amongst us. (original D.of I.)
14.This power has been used to trick the citizens of the earth into war. WW1, WW2, The wars in Viet Nam, the continuous wars in the Middle East, have all been shown to have been started by contrived incidents that have been used to falsely persuade the Citizens of governments to support the military industrial lobbiests to sacrifice the Life, Liberty, and pursuit of Happiness of the Citizens, and profit the powers at the top.
15.Technology, pathogens, and other scientific explorations have become weaponized and used for control of truth, power, and depopulation of the citizens of the earth.
16.True innovation that would have helped the citizens and the earth thrive in peace has been suppressed.
17.The economic system has been used to concentrate the wealth of the Earth into the hands of the few. It creates money and charges interest that is not created. The money created is then lent out 10 times over, generating 10 times the original interest, Debt that has NOT been created. This system is intrinsically unstable and becomes periodically imbalanced, when the true wealth of the collateral is transferred to the interest holders. This system is Debt Slavery. The economic system that came before this one was based on continual redistribution of goods to keep the flow of goods and services Dynamic and continually Refreshed.

carolm
carolm

Part 3:

We, therefore, the Representatives of Citizens of the earth, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the Universe for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of this earth, solemnly publish and declare, that all Citizens are Connected to one another and to the Earth on which we live, That we are free and independent of tyrants who consider us as generators of profits for the few. But instead exist as independent and mutually Connected souls. Souls who will no longer be coerced to do harm to one another, but pledge to Help each other and the earth to recover the birthright of our Health and Vitality. That our Humanity is a quality we owe to one another. That the resources of the Earth are to be held in Common for the greater benefit of all and That the Flow of Energy, Currency and Human Kindness be spread with Abundance to the Citizens and biosphere of the Earth.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

SIGNED:

Carol McIntosh, grandmother, yoga teacher

carolm
carolm

I’m out for most of the day. I’ll collect comments later this evening.

Thanks so much for all your help with this project!

Love to all!

Grendizer

Top 10,000 😀

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omnahmasiva5

Compassion Peace Happiness Joy

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25

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jpm9909

Have a great week Cafe!

winifred
winifred

To carolm: Thank you with all my soul and from the deepest part of my heart center for the work you are doing to draft this document for our Mother and for all life in and upon this magnificent being we call home. I especially love your Part 3 as it brings all together as it is intended. I will continue to read your updates and those of other like- minded individuals that make up this site. You are an amazing person as so many others are here on Ben’s blog. Thank you again.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Well, well, well, thanks Ben. So much is indeed happening if we choose to open our eyes and ears and ignore the fear porn and nonsense all over the internet…

Veterans Today has updated their site…nice work. Several members of the VT team went to Syria, and other places, last week on what they called a “peace and fact finding mission”. These guys actually take actions.

The following article is loaded with info including videos.
I gravitate towards people with senses of humor and some of these guys, including Duff, have great humor. Read the comments after the article. Jim Dean’s reply to a poster who critiqued his choice of clothes is hilarious!

Duff and Harris have been promoting the selling of high power weaponry for sale on the site. They are not making profits but doing their part in arming folks, who are interested—mostly veterans etc. It is quite obvious what they are doing and why.

I am always amazed seeing photos of other countries, particularly in the middle east, that totally contradict what the boneheads try to have us believe about “backwards countries” and all that b.s.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/08/vt-leads-american-deligation-to-syria-video/

“VT Leads American Deligation to Syria”

Posted by Gordon Duff on December 8, 2014

“In consultation with our editorial board and like minded individuals within the military and intelligence community, select VT board members traveled to Damascus last week”.

“We are going to cover the meetings over the next two weeks, there was enough going on there. Some of it was unpleasant. The real stars were the Syrian people, an absolute joy. It took the Syrian government a few days to realize who we are and, in the end, tried to pressure us to stay on past what our schedules would allow.

We left with endless information, much of it gotten in meetings with those others seldom talk to. There will be a curious back story that shouldn’t dominate. As with every war, drugs and human trafficking are there. That story is disheartening but corruption is always expected and few people are ever what they seem.

The goal here would be for VT to communicate to our constituency, one capable of altering history from time to time, what we learned and how we can move forward. The Syrian government is more than aware now who we are and what we can do. At no time did VT “bend over” for anyone, including our hosts.

Those who know me well also know I have no difficulty confronting government ministers in their own countries if it is the right thing to do.

Syria gave us broad access and though we were followed and watched continually, in general we found Syria a very free society, Damascus a very open city, even a “party town.” I left the meeting confident that Syria is a very good choice as a wartime ally to the United States.

One of the biggest areas to discuss as we move on are the crippling sanctions the US has imposed on Syria. These are insane, particularly during a war where the Syrian people, the Syrian Army and militias are fighting a fight that, as is so rarely the case anymore, the US has a real security stake in.

While we were there, the Israeli papers attacked me and Jim Dean. That alone should have made people suspicious as it made clear who had gravitas and who did not. In reality, little at the conference was about Israel. Where they are involved, we have strong proof but wider examination puts much more focus on Turkey.”

calmchris
calmchris

Namaste my friends

archonsdefeat
archonsdefeat

Can’t wait for the effects to trickle down to the Man on the street. 12 mths from now? Minimum income for all worlwide? Lower cost of living?
Comment by caramelpopcorn on December 9, 2014 @ 2:05 am

I reckon 12 months should see big changes become apparent. Then again, I’m still hoping for something big (and positive) between christmas and new year. Maybe the sentient computers have something planned 🙂

intruth
intruth

http://www.debka.com/article/24285/Netanyahu%E2%80%99s-epic-understandings-with-Egyptian-Saudi-and-UAE-rulers-%E2%80%93-a-potential-campaign-weapon%3Cbr%20/%3E

From the article Ben posted:

Meanwhile, on Wednesday night, Dec. 3, US Congress passed the US.-Israel Strategic Partnership Act that raises by $200 million the value of emergency US weapons stocked in Israel to a total of $1.8 billion, and guarantees Israel’s qualitative military edge over its neighbors and foes. The motion, passed by a voice vote in the House after clearing the Senate unanimously last September, also promotes closer links in energy, water, homeland security, alternative fuel technology and cyber-security. The bill now goes to President Obama for his signature.
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Closer links in Homeland Security? You mean militarization our police? Is this where it is budgeted?

valtony
valtony

23

archonsdefeat
archonsdefeat

Namaste everyone -and Victory of the Light!

wheelie
wheelie

HMMM?
Nazi scientists created Obamatrons in 1944 – David Icke’s Forum

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-226714.html
A disturbing discovery by renowned authors of the WWII subject matter lead them on a chase through history culminating in what is expected to be a groundbreaking book. Mark Walker teamed up with German author Michael Schaaf to write Hitler, Zombich, und die Häagan-Dazs, a book describing the efforts of Nazi scientist to perfect zombies, which were to be launched en masse against allied forces in Europe. More on site.
Cheers Ben and Y’all
– W

adamantiam
adamantiam

Babylon is fallen

patricia
patricia

Ben’s recent interview. Start listening at the 18 minute mark to hear another person tell us what he knows about Keenan. No wonder he’s hiding out!

http://hipknowsys.blogspot.com/2014/12/benjamin-fulford-interviewed-by-rob.html

gillfinn
gillfinn

Although Jim Willie says the US will become a colony of China.
Chinese will start up factories again, but at bargain basement salaries and benefits. At least it’s a job.
Comment by intruth on December 9, 2014 @ 1:40 am
***************
intruth, we’re a colony/property of the European cartel right now, our very names are copyrighted intrinsic property owned by the Crown Corporation. We’re currently unaware that we’re walking dead to them. Lol, Jim Willie doesn’t even speak of this, or doesn’t know.

There are a lot of things that could be worse than being a colony of China, first and foremost would be to continue on as we are–in the dark, zombies.

I’m not picking on you, just making others aware that we’re all collectively still living a lie until we understand/innerstand how we got to this place. If we never fully ‘get it’ then we’ll be ripe for the harvest no matter who’s colony we become, and believe me, the Chinese know our status entirely.

Do we really know what our ‘name’ means?

adamantiam
adamantiam

Lose the name.com

valerie
valerie

Project Santa Claus returns. These are some great moves!

food2
food2

Thank you, Ben!

intruth
intruth

Good Times: McDonald’s Is Hatin’ It

It seems “fast food” just isn’t the American institution it used to be.

Mcdonald’s (NYSE: MCD) is down 1.32% for the year. That compares to an S&P up more than 15%.

Yum Brands (NYSE: YUM), which you know as KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut, hasn’t fared much better, up about 3.5% on the year.

It seems “fast food” just isn’t the American institution it used to be.

The signs are everywhere.

Even “casual dining” is feeling the pinch.

And their new tactics reek of desperation.

Pizza Hut recently announced it’s entering the “craft pizza” space. Tell me, how does a chain with 13,300 stores do anything “craft?”

TGI Friday’s has resorted to all-you-can eat appetizers to get (overweight) butts in the seats. Olive Garden, a Darden (NYSE: DRI) brand, just sold 1,000 “Never Ending Pasta Passes” for $100 apiece.

Earnings at Darden have now dropped seven quarters in a row on a year-over-year basis.

Compare that to the cleaner offerings of a company like Chipotle (NYSE: CMG), whose sales have grown each of the last four quarters, and whose shares are up more than 26% on the year.

It isn’t hard to see what’s going on. While low incomes may necessitate Quarter Pounder dinners for some, the trend is clearly away from unhealthy faster food and toward slower, healthier food — as evidenced not only by Chipotle, but also by the rapid expansions of Whole Foods (NASDAQ: WFM) and Hain Celestial (NASDAQ: HAIN), as well as the acquisition of Annies by General Mills for $820 million to expand its organic offerings.

Good Times Restaurants (NASDAQ: GTIM) operates burger joints.Good Times Restaurants

But not pink slime burger joints. All natural, steroid-free, hormone-free, vegetarian-fed, and humanely-raised burger joints.

Its custard is made every few hours and is considered “premium,” meaning it contains 10% butterfat and 0.4% egg yolk.

The custard is also made with a proprietary Madagascar vanilla blend, with minimal air to create smaller ice crystals.

Its lemonade is fresh-squeezed.

The results speak for themselves.

Same store sales growth (SSSG) was up 3.1% in 2012, 11.9% in 2013, and 14.6% this year.

Read More @ OutsiderClub.com

sbarnett
sbarnett

Top 50. I hope this is our week for change!!!

intruth
intruth

omment by gillfinn on December 9, 2014 @ 2:40 am

Good point Gil. I just hope we can all stand in our own sovereignty and not be owned (be property of) anyone.

andreasmiles22
andreasmiles22

BLESSINGS EVERYONE!

deester
deester

Under 50

intruth
intruth

intruth, we’re a colony/property of the European cartel right now, our very names are copyrighted intrinsic property owned by the Crown Corporation. We’re currently unaware that we’re walking dead to them. Lol, Jim Willie doesn’t even speak of this, or doesn’t know.
Comment by gillfinn on December 9, 2014 @ 2:40 am
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Jim is pretty aware. I wouldn’t be surprised if this topic is just too off limits. I agree. This birth certificate and straw man fraud/double cross s/b made known to the general public. That would get people fired up! Enough to start a revolution.

blair
blair

I did read the link to Kates interview that Gil posted yesterday, thanks…had not had a dose of Kates philosophy for a while…enjoyed the interview and if your needing more info on moving out of the system, this is good reading and advice. well researched and Kates intro and knowledge on the Phonetics is a ton of fun…

jubba
jubba

47
Cheers Ben

carydc
carydc

48 thank you Ben

gillfinn
gillfinn

“There is a shrinking window of opportunity for our independence to come into balance with our Interdependence in order to right the current state of disequilibrium.”

I’m out for most of the day. I’ll collect comments later this evening.
Thanks so much for all your help with this project!
Love to all!
Comment by carolm on December 9, 2014 @ 2:12 am
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Hello carol, wow, great, passionate work! Thanks so much for all the time and effort and all I have is a tiny possible caveat that may fit after or near the above quote. Sovereignty should begin at the point of conception, continuing until death and through any recording of the birth ‘name’ remaining the soul/sole property of the family and all members of it.

Anyway, you see where I’m going with this and do with it what you will, it’s certainly ok by me. But whether we know it , or not, this is the point at which the current slavery system/operation works its magic/harvesting/programming from.

Thank you again for your trouble and caring.

food2
food2

Carol,
No words can adequately come forth to express my deep appreciation for your efforts. It is beautiful. My heart sings! You have definitely found your niche in this new paradigm. Thank you!

Pam

gavingreer
gavingreer

Hi Ben,

Is the White Dragon Society really threatening to create a massive tsunami that would kill thousands of innocent American civilians along the East Coast?

That is what you said in last week’s letter. Please address this. If it’s a joke, it’s not a very funny one.

Gavin

gillfinn
gillfinn

Jim is pretty aware. I wouldn’t be surprised if this topic is just too off limits. I agree. This birth certificate and straw man fraud/double cross s/b made known to the general public. That would get people fired up! Enough to start a revolution.
Comment by intruth on December 9, 2014 @ 2:55 am

I did read the link to Kates interview that Gil posted yesterday, thanks…had not had a dose of Kates philosophy for a while…enjoyed the interview and if your needing more info on moving out of the system, this is good reading and advice. well researched and Kates intro and knowledge on the Phonetics is a ton of fun…
Comment by blair on December 9, 2014 @ 2:57 am

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untruth, blair, glad you listened to the link, great show and a great beginning to understanding this simple concept.
If Jim Willie knows about this, which I doubt, and I do like Jim and his work, there’s no way this info is to be avoided. It’s the crux of the slavery of humanity. Dodge it at your own peril, but until we get a handle on our collective predicament, we’re doomed to repeat it.

patricia
patricia

There are a lot of things that could be worse than being a colony of China, first and foremost would be to continue on as we are–in the dark, zombies.

Comment by gillfinn on December 9, 2014 @ 2:40 am

I agree gil. As I’ve said before “A slave is a slave. It matters not who the master is.”

patricia
patricia

“It seems “fast food” just isn’t the American institution it used to be.

The signs are everywhere.”

This is correct Intruth as my personal evidence story posted last week about the ‘choices’ America’s teens are starting to make towards healthy food.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Btw, blair, it’s not a ‘philosophy’ of Kate’s, it’s a truth that most are completely ignorant of. It has nothing to do with the ‘freeman/sovereign’ movement.
It is much more simple, to the point, and ‘spell breaking’ in its efficacy.

From that point (birth) is where the programing begins, all of it. Your soul/spirit is stolen/collected by our unwitting parents and handed over to the slave masters. Swallow that pill and digest it thoroughly.

blair
blair

Yes your absolutely right, wrong choice of word.

food2
food2

Patricia,
As to the interview of Ben by this Rob guy (2:39am); I first read a few comments about the interviewer as the video loaded. He didn’t sound too impressive. His comments about Keenan were pretty much dismissed by Ben as Ben went on to, instead, talk about the Bush drug-running.

We just have so much info to go through and figure out these days. Sometimes we are deceived (speaking for myself), but it is not a failure, only a lesson to help in our experience-gathering. So, I stand back and just watch, concerning Keenan. He doesn’t interest me at this point but I hold no animosity toward him either.

Pam

martha
martha

Comment by patricia on December 9, 2014 @ 2:39 am

Thank you for the audio link, it was very positive in light of so much other stuff. i.e. the house of representatives passing law that effectively opens up cold war with Russia..Ben says they are not relevant anymore. Sad, but the legislative branch has been diminished over the last decade…but this is another way to look at it.They weren’t all that great anyway.

Also the information on meritocracy..as a way for the brightest to run the country. Explains a lot

patricia
patricia

Just a thought

Is it possible that the REAL reason that the Ukraine is being fought for so hard by the Khazars is because that is their original homeland? There is evidence for this but I can’t put my finger on it right now. I was reminded of this while listening to the VT interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxa2-lSyBhg

I was around the 15 minute mark when this thought went through my mind.

blair
blair

I agree this is exactly whats going on, the philosophy idea was directed more at his solution to disngage…which I am sure is a bit scary for some if not most…

patricia
patricia

“Sad, but the legislative branch has been diminished over the last decade”

Martha,

Not sad but just one positive step towards getting rid of the evil on the planet. Making them obsolete is a goal I can get behind.

patricia
patricia

Keenan. He doesn’t interest me at this point but I hold no animosity toward him either.

Pam

Comment by food2 on December 9, 2014 @ 3:37 am

Pam,

Thank you for your comment. You are a very kind hearted person. I DO HAVE animosity towards Keenan and anyone else who is part of the criminal element currently in charge of this planet. Their time at “the helm of this earth ship” is rapidly coming to an end.

patricia
patricia

Excerpt from a link Ben posted regarding “Red China’s” alliance with the illuminati is below. Question?? Is the China that is buying up the US and world the “Red Chinese” referred to which are a branch of the illuminati OR are we dealing with some benevolent Elders that we keep hearing about? I’m sending this question to Ben as well.

Are Illuminati Jews behind an ages-old Plan to overthrow America? Texe Marrs presents a mountain of evidence that Zionist conspirators, including Rothschild’s banking cartel, Israeli leaders, and covert Jews working with the Communist regime in Beijing (Red China) have the goal of plundering America. They intend to use this nation’s military to police and maintain the New World Order and are now in the process of stealing America’s wealth and redistributing it to Red Chinese and Israeli banks. Traitors within our own government are assisting this sabotage and subversion project. Prophetically, the Illuminati is organizing a satanic triad of global powers, made up of Red China, the U.S.A., and Israel. Behind the three countries are diabolical Zionist overlords bent on world dominion.

http://www.texemarrs.com/092010/triad_of_evil.htm

food2
food2

#Anonymous brings down Oakland PD website after cops gas protesters

“…In a second night of protests on Sunday, multiple injuries and arrests have been made in Oakland and Berkley. Acts of vandalism and rock-throwing by rioters started to take place as splinter groups broke off from the original peaceful march. Someone smashed a window of a local Radio Shack store, which escalated the situation…”

http://rt.com/usa/212335-police-protesters-oakland-gas/

Notice that ‘splinter groups’ broke off and were destructive!! Those UC Berkeley students, generally, are a peaceful bunch. I just wonder if paid provocateurs joined ranks, dressed as students, to sabotage their peaceful protest. (Of course, they did, Pam!!)

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

On board with 65 comments posted ending with comment by food2 December 9, 2014 @ 4:47 am

Now to see the latest report.

Malama pono,

Momi

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News December 8th, 2014

7 Ways to Figure Out What You Should be Doing With Your Life (Even When You Don’t Have a Clue)

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2014/12/08/7-ways-to-figure-out-what-you-should-be-doing-with-your-life-even-when-you-dont-have-a-clue/

Sometimes we get stuck. That’s when you need to think outside the box and look at your life and your situation differently.

+ Be Well +

Truth

patricia
patricia

Notice that ’splinter groups’ broke off and were destructive!! Those UC Berkeley students, generally, are a peaceful bunch. I just wonder if paid provocateurs joined ranks, dressed as students, to sabotage their peaceful protest. (Of course, they did, Pam!!)

Comment by food2 on December 9, 2014 @ 4:47 am

Spot on! I have no doubt this is true. grrrrr

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Patricia @ 2:39

Too noisy on bus. Still using iPhone without earbuds, grandson chewed on it. Still using lessons learned in school of hard knocks. Will get back to link when off the bus.

Gillfinn @2:40

Correct info. We have reason to believe it when it affects an existing kingdom. Appears only we can set the records straight on what Crown did what and which one is the real deal to effect necessary change. If Japan can dissolve parliament (they have a Crown) and another country currently attempting to do the same, two questions come to mind or maybe more. (1) why is parliament being dissolved? Didn’t think it could, but , lo and behold two doing it this century this year! (2) what other country has a Crown whose government is run by other than a Crown? Great Britain has a parliament and ACTING CROWN in control of America which like you say many do not know this and how it is being done.

A kingdom is a kingdom is a kingdom. How you use a kingdom is open game.

I’ll leave it there for now. Using iPhone to post not the best.

Malama pono,

Momi

K-Puppy

8 December 2014

Morrissey has politely declined an invitation from Channel 4 Television to deliver an Alternative Christmas Day Speech which would be transmitted at the same time that the Queen delivers her Christmas Day speech for the BBC.

Morrissey has commented:

“My view that the monarchy should be quietly dismantled for the good of England is reasonably well-known, but I don’t think Christmas Day is quite the time to be trading slaps. The Queen should be allowed the impassioned trance of her annual address to the British people, if only to once again prove that, in her frozen posture, she has nothing to offer and nothing to say, and she has no place in modern Britain except as a figure of repression; no independent thought required. The Queen very well might be the most powerful woman in England, but she lacks the power to make herself loved, and the phony inflation of her family attacks all rational intellect.
All over the world highly civilized peoples exist without the automatic condescension of a ‘royal’ family. England can do the same, and will find more respect for doing so.”

guac77
guac77

The you that others are familiar with consists of 3 parts, body, mind and spirit (soul). Without the soul or some type of temporary consciousness (that clones have), the body and the mind perish. The soul is the real you and is immortal or lives forever, while the body and the mind are temporary. While the body is alive the mind gets to be boss. The body is fully aware of everything going on, so you should talk to your body. Tell your body you love it and you care. If you want to ask your body questions, use any of the 3 tests (I call them) on my Spiritual Truth page. If you are over weight tell your body to burn off some of the fat it has stored, it works for some people. Even though it is blocked from directly expressing itself the soul is the main and by far the most important part of the 3 and I can give you a report on it, kind of where it’s been, when it’s going to the next step and kind of how good it’s doing.
http://www.icheckyoursoul.com/

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Thank you Ben. Great future prospective moving right along.

Michael

ugmmichael
ugmmichael
waldheim
waldheim

Tuning in at 74…..

gillfinn
gillfinn

A kingdom is a kingdom is a kingdom. How you use a kingdom is open game.
I’ll leave it there for now. Using iPhone to post not the best.
Malama pono,
Momi
Comment by kuuleimomi on December 9, 2014 @ 5:42 am
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Hello Momi, I think the hu-mans of the world will eventually (through consciousness) be guided to the realization that another hu-man being has no designation as their overseer/ruler, simply by ‘right’ of birth/blood.

It’s gotten to be (in recent decades) a place for the CORPORATION/banks to hide behind a respected cover/storefront.

azure
azure

76! Checking in!

roytheboy
roytheboy

Carolm.
I think what you have done is absolutely fantastic.
It expresses all of our grievances.

The single issue that is not mentioned which should be in my view is the influence of secret societies. We should not shy away from this.

The founding fathers were predominantly freemasons and look how that worked out.

The George Washington statue where he is bare chested and posed as Baphomet is a sign of this. The symbolism is all around our cities and it is in our faces with corporations. This overt symbolism is of a Satanic cult which has at the top of its agenda the sacrifice and suffering of children and the spilling of blood hence the never ending wars. There is a lot of evidence of this coming to light in the highest echelons of society. It has allowed people to be compromised and has possibly been a tool of manipulation for the hidden government.
It is dangerous in the extreme.

Kennedy made his feelings abundantly clear when he spoke of secrecy being abhorrent in an open and transparent society.

A bust of Washington has an inscription below it which states he is firstly a Freemason and then First President of the United States. The ranking of the allegiance is clear.

Such perverse allegiance is not acceptable for any person in public office and this should be stated. No person can be said to represent the people who has an allegiance with any secret society whose true intentions can never really be fully understood by the general population. Such societies are also open to be infiltrated by dark and sinister forces as we have seen.

Roy x

Roy x

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by patricia on December 9, 2014 @ 3:38 am

Yeah, I’ve heard the VT guys say that a few times now – they want the Ukraine as the Zionist Khazars in Israel need a new home. They know they can’t stay on in Israel for much longer.

But if you read Monty Keen’s stuff, he gives a different reazson for the bad guys wanting Ukraine. I think it’s the latest message but if not, then either the previous 1 or 2. Ukraine is one of the exit points for the ETs who invaded this planet. It seems they have to leave the way they came in, and they need to get out quickly as they’re disintegrating.

Preston James also said much the same – that the ETs are glitching.

intruth
intruth

NIRP Arrives In The US: TBTF Banks Tell Customers To Move Their Cash Or Be Charged Fees

Enter US NIRP.

As the WSJ reports, far from paying for the privilege of holding other people’s cash (and why would they with nearly $3 trillion in positive carry excess reserves sloshing around) US banks – primarily of the TBTF variety – “are urging some of their largest customers in the U.S. to take their cash elsewhere or be slapped with fees, citing new regulations that make it onerous for them to hold certain deposits.”

The banks, including J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc., HSBC Holdings PLC, Deutsche Bank AG and Bank of America Corp. , have spoken privately with clients in recent months to tell them that the new regulations are making some deposits less profitable, according to people familiar with the conversations.

In some cases, the banks have told clients, which range from large companies to hedge funds, insurers and smaller banks, that they will begin charging fees on accounts that have been free for big customers, the people said. Bank officials are also working with these firms to find alternatives for some of their deposits, they said.

The change upends one of the cornerstones of banking, in which deposits have been seen as one of the industry’s most attractive forms of funding, said more than a dozen corporate officials, consultants and bank executives interviewed by The Wall Street Journal.
One bank that is aggresively turning money away is the same bank for whom criminality is now an ordinary course of business, and has spent over $30 billion in recent years on legal charges and settlements: JPM.

J.P. Morgan told some clients of its commercial bank recently that it would begin charging monthly fees on deposit accounts from which clients can withdraw money at any time. The new charges will start Jan. 1 for U.S. accounts, according to an Oct. 21 memo reviewed by the Journal, and later for international accounts.

“New liquidity and capital requirements have changed the operating environment and increased the cost of doing business with financial institutions,” the memo read.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-08/nirp-arrives-us-tbtf-banks-tell-customers-move-their-cash-or-be-charged-fees

music
music

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-confirms-senate-torture-report-to-be-released-tuesday/
Tomorrow’s release of the Senate investigation on torture could be the beginning of that take down of the Bushes Ben is talking about as they can be found guilty or war crimes according to the Geneva Convention.

spinerau
spinerau

And México Ben??

anonymous
anonymous

http://www.breaking911.com/breaking-marines-on-high-alert-amid-white-house-release-of-torture-report/

MARINES ON HIGH ALERT Amid White House Release Of “Torture Report”

wolfintimber

Thanks a lot ben,your an excellant dude man…..

namaste…..

wolfintimber

Recent interview with Kevin Annett…..The pope to be arrested when visiting america in 2015…..Common law sheriffs,county sheriffs,oathkeepers etc…..

Common Law is gaining power fast,as the great earth humans continue there awakening…..Ya baby…..

Selamat jalin…..Selamat ja…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At3VBdT1WlY

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

Certain people will have their pants pulled down…maybe with this report.

NAI2010
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/08/cia-torture-report-release-date-nears

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

More information.

NAI2010
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/torture-report-dick-cheney-110306.html?ml=tl_5_b

lucybean
lucybean

Comment by nai2010 on December 9, 2014 @ 10:43 am

The problem is, everytime something like this is revealed, people never react to it. We read it and are outraged, the rest read it and are so passive about it, that it’s almost unbelievable.

There have been several revelations over the past few years that I was sure would be a game changer, but nothing ever happend. People hear about these stories and just let go. Where is the outrage?

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

It’s Monday evening again at our house and time for me to read Ben’s report to my beautiful wife, How do I know it’s time? Because she starts singing “Benny, Benny, Benny and the feds…” Not too long ago, I almost had to strap her into a chair, but now she really wants to hear. Thanks everyone for this wonderful meeting place-may all that we work for become a reality.

nugget
nugget

hey omna.. its a 2 way street… my family/colleagues cant get away from me quick enough lol..
they are well under the spell..

almost unbreakable, well for me anyway..

regards

cfree928
cfree928

🙂

aneeson
aneeson

The single issue that is not mentioned which should be in my view is the influence of secret societies. We should not shy away from this.
The founding fathers were predominantly freemasons and look how that worked out.
Comment by roytheboy on December 9, 2014 @ 7:16 am

Hey Roy,

What do you class a ‘secret society’?

Do you include trade guilds and private companies which produce goods to recipes only they are aware of?

I think that a lot of ‘we the people’ in the USA would regard the founding fathers as being the way they wish their country was still being run?

There is a difference between groups of individuals who conspire to control others and groups of individuals who have similar interests which they share with those who join in with their activities i.e. sports clubs have secrets that they don’t want other teams to know about – should those members too be banned from public office?

BTW, I have no info on the group you asked about a few days ago. The Co-Masonic organisation is considered ‘clandestine’ my the main stream male craft. So we only really know about our own workings.

Best regards,
Alan.

patricia
patricia

I sent Ben Michael’s post reminding us of Ben’s report 5 years ago and asked him for commentary.

Here is Ben’s reply:

Hi XXX,
The changes are definitely happening but they are taking a lot longer than many of us would like. The planet has a lot of momentum and changing it is not an overnight task.
A lot has happened, though, since that report was written.
For example, the IMF does not have money and the proof can be seen in their inability to provide more than token financing to countries like the Ukraine.
Also, the US dollar is rising, not collapsing, showing that it is being backed by something other than the collapsed US economy.
The UN headquarters has not moved yet but it will.
Also, I did meet the then Japanese government’s #2, Hajime Ishii and when I talked to him about making changes, he told me to talk to a guy called Shinji Kawasaka, who was his boss even though he had no formal government job. Kawasaka in turn took orders from the US State Department. The State Department, working for the Zionists, has been very stubborn indeed but, if you look at the rise of the 188 nation BRICS alliance since the report was written you can see clearly that they are no longer leading the world.
The other thing that has changed since then, for better or worse, has been the shift of the center of the world financial system towards China.
We have not had any big fall of the Berlin was type moment but the world has changed profoundly and the transformation is speeding up.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

patricia
patricia

I sent Ben the following post. His reply follows.

Hi Ben,
Is the White Dragon Society really threatening to create a massive tsunami that would kill thousands of innocent American civilians along the East Coast?
That is what you said in last week’s letter. Please address this. If it’s a joke, it’s not a very funny one.
Gavin
Comment by gavingreer on December 9, 2014 @ 3:11 am

Ben’s reply:

Hello Gavin,
The threat to trigger a tsunami was conveyed to us but, the latest we are hearing is that it has been cancelled. Lots of people have the technology to trigger such an event and it is not clear exactly who was making the threat, it was communicated to us by anonymous sources. We reported it because a volcano in the La Palma island region started erupting after the threat was sent.
Please remember that Japan was actually hit with a tsunami and nuclear terror attack on March 11, 2011. Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu and others followed this with threats to destroy Tokyo and set off mount Fuji. Clearly somebody reminded the Zionists that mass terror was a two way street.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

patricia
patricia

I received a reply to my earlier inquiry to Ben as follows:

Ben,

Below is a post I just put on the blog. Your reply and commentary is most appreciated.

My Post:

Excerpt from a link Ben posted regarding “Red China’s” alliance with the illuminati is below. Question?? Is the China that is buying up the US and world the “Red Chinese” referred to which are a branch of the illuminati OR are we dealing with some benevolent Elders that we keep hearing about? I’m sending this question to Ben as well.

Excerpt:

Are Illuminati Jews behind an ages-old Plan to overthrow America? Texe Marrs presents a mountain of evidence that Zionist conspirators, including Rothschild’s banking cartel, Israeli leaders, and covert Jews working with the Communist regime in Beijing (Red China) have the goal of plundering America. They intend to use this nation’s military to police and maintain the New World Order and are now in the process of stealing America’s wealth and redistributing it to Red Chinese and Israeli banks. Traitors within our own government are assisting this sabotage and subversion project. Prophetically, the Illuminati is organizing a satanic triad of global powers, made up of Red China, the U.S.A., and Israel. Behind the three countries are diabolical Zionist overlords bent on world dominion.

http://www.texemarrs.com/092010/triad_of_evil.htm

Ben’s reply:

Hello XXX,

My understanding of the situation is different from Mr. Marrs. I posted the link because it had the photographic proof of Mao’s cabal links on it.

What I have learned from decades of reporting in Asia and talking directly with a whole range of Asian power brokers is quite different from what was written on the link.
First of all, China kicked out all of the cabalists manipulating Mao in 1967. They isolated themselves from the West until after Mao died and Deng Xiaoping took undisputed power. The Chinese then started developing their economy using the post-war Japanese model involving a combination of central planning and free market forces.

The Americans forced the Japanese to dismantle that model which is why the Japanese economy has stagnated for the past two decades. The Chinese still use that model which is why they keep growing and getting stronger.

The United States economy has been sabotaged by the Federal Reserve Board for sure and the beneficiary has been China. However, I blame the incompetence of the Feds and do not see some fiendish plot to destroy the US.

Unless the United States starts issuing government currency to replace the foreign controlled US dollar, they will continue to implode economically until US living standards fall to Chinese levels. That is what I keep telling the Americans but so far this advice has been ignored and the US economy as a result keeps sinking no matter what happy talk likes the Feds spout.

The Illuminati plan for China that I heard directly from the Illuminati was to start a new cold war with Russia and have Russia pretend to be China’s friend. After the West and Russia rearmed, they were supposed to join with Russia and Japan to attack and dismember China.

The problem with this plan is that such a war would have killed 90% of humanity so the pentagon nixed it.
Instead now we are witnessing a slow evolution towards world peace and the gradual withering of the post-war structure in parallel with the gradual emergence of a new system.

It is frustratingly slow, I admit, but that is the reality.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

….”they are well under the spell..

almost unbreakable, well for me anyway..”

regards
Comment by nugget on December 9, 2014 @ 11:31 am
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That is why you come here, me too, because you have friends here and you are accepted for you……….
xxxooo

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Patricia, I have said this before, AND I will most likely say it again….thank you for sending Ben some real interesting, and controversial, comments from the cafe and then sharing his replies with us. I am most grateful and really appreciate it.
xxx
ukdena

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi
valtony
valtony

Almost 100

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn

Do we really know what our ‘name’ means?
Comment by gillfinn on December 9, 2014 @ 2:40 am

You mean who’s your daddy?

wheelie
wheelie

Almost 102

marhuff55
marhuff55

Something I learned today explains why, since WW2, we have never declared a war against another nation. Look at our history of fighting since WW2. You will see that from the Korean conflict up to today, not once was a declaration of war ever implemented against a country we have fought. Why? During WW2, Roosevelt instituted a permanent state of war as to be able to keep his war time powers alive, even if the war was to end, and has since been handed down from President to President to this very day(Why do you think that Bush and Obama have gotten away with taking so many of our rights away during these last few years our country has been fighting overseas? Because of those war time powers Roosevelt established and never lifted since WW2). As for WW2 ending, it was only officially ended with Japan, but not the Third Reich in exile, which has kept us under a constant state of war from the point on, and because of this, we can not legally declare war on another nation until the last one has officially ended. And yes, this is all officially documented in the Department of Defense. This was all brought to light by someone who had access to those documents, by the name of Douglas Dietrich who worked in the Department of Defense. It sheds a whole new light on why we and our country are being subjected to the crap we have been, and still are being put through by this government. His website is linked below.

http://www.douglasdietrich.com/

nugget
nugget

Hey martin, yes project highjump was I think nearly first instituted under this rule..

Regards

nugget
nugget

** Comment by ukdenadreamer on December 9, 2014 @ 1:44 pm **

🙂

Just when, as much as you think you know, you get the impression really you are alone,…

Thank you my dear friend

Warm regards to you and your family and friends..
Christian

nugget
nugget

Hey patricia..

I’m intrigued by this statement:
** Clearly somebody reminded the Zionists that mass terror was a two way street.**

My general understanding is ” they care not”…

Means to an ends is/to the ultimate goal..

Regards and thanks also for the correspondence..

roytheboy
roytheboy

Alan,
Perhaps I should have been more specific.
I am talking about the Masonic Orders, the Knights Templar, the Knights of Malta, The Order of The Garter, The Knights of Columbus. Any order where there are rituals, symbolism and where they have secrets that are linked to occultism. Any order that has a Royal or. Blue Blood line at is head. Sports clubs and trade guilds are obviously different. But even in these cases membership should be declared.

As I said earlier the very idea of secrecy in an open and transparent society is abhorrent and we should oppose it. It is clear in the rites of many of these societies that they are affiliated to satanic worship and I struggle to see how anyone could defend such organisation to be part of the new society.

It can be seen that the Freemasons are such an organisation , but also that their hierarchical structure and secrecy lends itself to be infiltrated and abused. Why would anyone need to be part of a secret organisation that has objectives that may be contrary to the peoples government unless it was to possess the means by which to subvert it if required.

Definition of the word ‘clandestine’.
dictionary.reference.com/browse/clandestine
characterized by, done in, or executed with secrecy or concealment, especially for purposes of subversion or deception; private or surreptitious.

Masonry is dangerous to what we are proposing. We the people understand a lot more about this organisation than people did all those years ago. Our new declaration will be fatally flawed unless we specifically mention it and exclude it. There is a quote somewhere I can probably find from the head of freemasonry in the 17th century who called for it to be disbanded worldwide as he felt it had been infiltrated by a dark and sinister force.

Also, even the most inactive member will say that it is a self help society for the Benefit of its members, not for all. It is therefore divisive and against all we stand for.

Roy x

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Patricia Re: Kevin Annet video.

Grrrr! Couldn’t finish viewing it. I couldn’t stand listening to the moderator any longer. He seem to not know if what he was about to say should be said. He had too many ah’s. I was beginning to get acid reflux or is it heartburn along with blood pressure rising trying to help him spit it out what he wants to say. Too bad for Kevin. Info was good to hear.

Malama pono,

Momi

nugget
nugget

Oh let me reiterate ,,

Mahalo for the letters..

=P

calebbrennan
calebbrennan
jubba
jubba

patricia on December 9, 2014 @ 3:38 am

Seems like they ve been looking for somewhere for sometime….off world options could well have been closed. New Zealand declined and had the Christchurch earthquake for their trouble, a while back. Ukraine could be a good shout.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Impressed by the minds gathered here

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy
The ganja is a portal

you can’t force feed a mind set

People arrive by different paths

to the same destination

But the Mother MRs Cannaboid

she rocks

lmsk
lmsk

Patricia,

Thanks for posting responses from Ben.

Just had a thought… What do people think about suggesting to Ben that he change one setting on this blog? He could have comments appear in reverse chronological order. It would make for much easier reading without needed to endlessness scroll….

Lisa

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

CArol

I’m still digesting but am enamored of this thread

Brilliant

intruth
intruth

Whooping cough outbreak at Massachusetts high school affected only vaccinated students

Tuesday, December 09, 2014

(NaturalNews) Unvaccinated children are supposedly the cause, according to state health officials, of a recent whooping cough outbreak that occurred in the posh Cape Cod area of Massachusetts. But as reported by CBS Boston, all of the children affected by the outbreak were already vaccinated, proving once again that vaccines don’t really work.

Some 15 children at Falmouth High School reportedly came down with the respiratory illness, which also goes by the name pertussis, sparking a wave of panic about a corresponding increase in vaccine exemptions. But as usual, nobody affected by the outbreak was unvaccinated, and no matter how hard the media tries to spin the issue, those who were vaccinated were not protected.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047930_whooping_cough_vaccinations_exemptions.html#ixzz3LOsj0EJR

jubba
jubba

patricia on December 9, 2014 @ 3:38 am

And for what it’s worth, if they were all gathered together in one place free from civilians, it would make dealing with them less complex…..FWIW

intruth
intruth

Kevin Annett: Common law Sheriffs, Oathkeepers will arrest pedo Pope during Sept 2015 USA visit

Haven’t viewed this vid yet, but just by the title, what is the chance of this actually occurring? Why would you telegraph your intention?

roytheboy
roytheboy

Comment by calebbrennan on December 9, 2014 @ 8:24 pm

Caleb. Im not trying to forcefeed a mindset. I see myself as a messenger in some sense. To me the messages are real.
Others can hear what I say and dismiss it totally if they wish. I have no problem with that and I understand that others awaken in different ways using different techniques. All are valid.

I am just giving information to those who perhaps have never tried it and wonder what its like. Two things nobody ever told me about MJ was that a) It can be a hugely pleasurable experience and b) It is very enlightening.

What I do know is that it has the potential to change people, one at a time and so, the world.

Kindest Regards

roytheboy
roytheboy

Comment by intruth on December 9, 2014 @ 8:49 pm

Well that will make interesting viewing!

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Lisa\

What do people think about suggesting to Ben that he change one setting on this blog?
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Lisa we’ve tried that a bunch. to reformat it, he won’t

Ben wants the site to be Raw, no moderator etc

that has been big pain in the ass

I see it as

figure it out yourself earthlings

is a good intention

ha ha

jubba
jubba

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/09/389378/palestine-wins-icc-observer-status/

Paves way to sue senior Israeli leaders for war crimes. I wonder if this is how Net is going to be removed?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy

I’m totally on your page I get you

Just playing volley ball

too often a contribution is considered as an attack

when I look at it as a volley

a ball thrown in the air over a “Net

We’re all bouncing these thought forms

wolfintimber

Haven’t viewed this vid yet, but just by the title, what is the chance of this actually occurring? Why would you telegraph your intention?
Comment by intruth on December 9, 2014 @ 8:49 pm

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The pope will be arrested,most probably not in america of course,as he will not see the shores of america again,other than perhaps for required court appearances…..
Did we expect these criminals,diablos partners in crime to rule forever…..of course not,any of us of the light are much more powerful than this dark army……Thats why they need us,we dont need them…..We will treat them very well,good accomodations,foods,real medicines(not there fake poisons they deceive on so many),etc…..And be respectful to them,that was being a healthy member of the family of light is…..

Namaste…..

roytheboy
roytheboy

The Co-Masonic organisation is considered ‘clandestine’ my the main stream male craft. So we only really know about our own workings.

Comment by aneeson on December 9, 2014 @ 12:09 pm
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That is the other method used in freemasonry and intelligence circles. The silo approach. You only know what you need to know and are therefore unable to compromise the whole. Dont ask questions above your paygrade. Im sure you see what Im saying.

Roy x

wolfintimber

Respect,part of the love quotient…..As the earth humans restore themselves to being healthy members again of the family of light…..Ya Baby…..

roytheboy
roytheboy

Caleb.

I understand your approach. I sort of knew the issue of Masons would be a problem for some, but I have seen it at work in my own life over the years and I know how toxic it can be. Key people in key positions can obstruct, divert, omit all sorts of things to bring about subversive change. This is why the elites love these societies so much.

I am just a normal Citizen. I have have seen people sidelined for posts as an inferior masonic candidate is successful, just because there was a fellow brother on the selection panel.

This is but one small example. Others could be the offer of preferential contracts in business for example. Possibly public business. Freemasonry is not a harmless and inoccuous organisation. It contains the seeds of destruction just as it did with the original declaration of independance.

I have no desire to attend a shit eating party any day soon and will not sign any declaration that does not specifically exclude them. They are part of the problem.

Roy x

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

love quotient…

is their any other math that adds up?

wolfintimber

The love quotient is the only math that contains pure light and love…..Ya baby…..

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I have no desire to attend a shit eating party any day soon and will not sign any declaration that does not specifically exclude them. They are part of the problem.
Roy x
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Which is why we should dose the contollers with pot brownies at the Bilderbuger thingo
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calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Party at my house on Tuesday

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Mr Cati has a new video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlHXRXDn_Q&list=UUHNejj7WUFffGYWB9FEUwMA

I am starting to wonder if this message
12-21 and 12-24

which is being repeated over and over
may be a call out to all cabal

to enter your underground hidie holes.

????
on another note

I was writing something the other day and I wrote 2015.

I noticed that 2015 had a really good feeling.

I think perhaps 2015 will be a very good year. 🙂

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

. But as reported by CBS Boston, all of the children affected by the outbreak were already vaccinated, proving once again that vaccines don’t really work.

Comment by intruth on December 9, 2014 @ 8:46 pm
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I remember reading a couple of years back that someone suggested watching CBS for true info – it would come out there.

I kinda just put that in the back of my head–and I am waiting for any ah ha moment.

Here – we have interesting info to also put in that back of my head.

Could it be that CBS will become anti cabal?

Who owns CBS?

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Did anybody watch yesterdays edition of David Wilcock on GAIAM tv?

He outed Ted Turner as possibly being the man behind the Georgia Guidestones.

I bet Ted is in panic mode.

Apparently there has been much written on the internet about Ted being the man

so David compared some signatures.

Nothing absolutely convicting, but interesting anyway.

I never did get any good vibes from Ted Turner.

lmsk
lmsk

I watched David’s two part guide stone shows. Wow. Double wow. It is soooo worth subscribing to Gaiam. David has so much information and he is an excellent teacher. I’m a handwriting expert and will try to get a hold of those handwriting images for further look. Upon cursory look there could be a case linking Turner, I think.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Ok Caleb. Tuesday it is but Ill bring my own packed lunch and alcohol if you dont mind.

patricia
patricia

Patricia, I have said this before, AND I will most likely say it again….thank you for sending Ben some real interesting, and controversial, comments from the cafe and then sharing his replies with us. I am most grateful and really appreciate it.
xxx
ukdena

Comment by ukdenadreamer on December 9, 2014 @ 1:46 pm

My pleasure Dena. We all do whatever we can to help each other. This is just something that I fell into and, having an inquisitive mind, I always look forward to Ben’s replies as well.

By the way, the acorn squash we has last week for dinner was so buttery and delicious. I hope your garden is still yielding some of natures blessings for you as well.

patricia
patricia

I’m intrigued by this statement:
** Clearly somebody reminded the Zionists that mass terror was a two way street.**

My general understanding is ” they care not”…

Means to an ends is/to the ultimate goal..

Regards and thanks also for the correspondence..

Comment by nugget on December 9, 2014 @ 5:32 pm

Nugget,

Just a thought-

The one thing THEY seem to protect and revere beyond even money is their precious blood lines. Maybe some benevolent people who are fighting the good fight figured this out and that could be the ‘seed’ of the “two way street” comment.

Ending their blood lines could be accomplished a number of ways. EVERYTHING has an Achilles heel, eh?

martha
martha

Is it possible that the REAL reason that the Ukraine is being fought for so hard by the Khazars is because that is their original homeland? There is evidence for this but I can’t put my finger on it right now. I was reminded of this while listening to the VT interview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxa2-lSyBhg
I was around the 15 minute mark when this thought went through my mind.
Comment by patricia on December 9, 2014 @ 3:38 am

Then there is the aspect of wars being fought with different names of countries for centuries. I used to think that the cabal had no new ideas…never forgot a grudge…now I’m thinking maybe they just latch onto the real humans because they are incapable of new schemes etc. to accomplish their goals. But Religion has been the vehicle that they use..from wikipedia re. the Byzantine Empire and the enemy Rus..or Russia.

“Relations with the Kievan Rus'[edit]

Rus’ under the walls of Constantinople (860)
Between 850 and 1100, the Empire developed a mixed relationship with the new state of the Kievan Rus’, which had emerged to the north across the Black Sea.[86] This relationship would have long-lasting repercussions in the history of the East Slavs, and the Empire quickly became the main trading and cultural partner for Kiev. The Rus’ launched their first attack against Constantinople in 860, pillaging the suburbs of the city. In 941, they appeared on the Asian shore of the Bosphorus, but this time they were crushed, an indication of the improvements in the Byzantine military position after 907, when only diplomacy had been able to push back the invaders. Basil II could not ignore the emerging power of the Rus’, and, following the example of his predecessors, he used religion as a means for the achievement of political purposes.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

So religion is the vehicle they use to conquer and steal resources and people.This is an old battle being played out now with the west and the east..i.e. Russia.David Wilcock did quite a bit of work on this in his latest book. Although, to the best of my memory, the role of religion was left out.

From the 14 points of fascism …”8. Religion and ruling elite tied together

Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.”

http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html

And the book of Revelations in the Bible says the last battle will be fought in Israel and refers to the bear from the north..which was commonly thought to be Russia by Biblical scholars. “Those” people , I truly believe, have to announce their intentions due to laws of the universe. Earth has free will. We are going along with it by these laws just by the announcement. Doesn’t seem fair but what other reason would there be for so many movies etc. with their plans laid out? Common sense says don’t tell the enemy what you are going to do.

Sorry for being long windy.

patricia
patricia

There is a quote somewhere I can probably find from the head of freemasonry in the 17th century who called for it to be disbanded worldwide as he felt it had been infiltrated by a dark and sinister force.

Also, even the most inactive member will say that it is a self help society for the Benefit of its members, not for all. It is therefore divisive and against all we stand for.

Roy x

Comment by roytheboy on December 9, 2014 @ 5:34 pm

This posting reminded me that there is another such group/cult that never gets any mention here but is VERY active behind the scenes in Hollywood shaping our perceptions of the world. SCIENTOLOGY!

Anyone want to chime in on this one?

patricia
patricia

Comment by martha on December 9, 2014 @ 11:25 pm

Martha,

Good research and some interesting history I was not aware of but will keep in the old noggin’ for future reference.

Thank you!

roytheboy
roytheboy

http://www.cracked.com/article_16337_l.-ron-hubbards-5-most-impressive-lies-besides-scientology.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264888/Great-grandson-L-Ron-Hubbard-slams-Scientology-dangerous-cult.html

Patricia,
I am not aware of the full influence of Scientology, but I do know that they brainwash their members and that the religion was basically made up by L Ron Hubbard as the best way to get rich quick. It seems to have worked out reasonably well.

Roy x

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn

nice drops in the manipulated stock indices and rise in spot gold. ending of the cabal? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?

patricia
patricia

I am not aware of the full influence of Scientology, but I do know that they brainwash their members and that the religion was basically made up by L Ron Hubbard as the best way to get rich quick. It seems to have worked out reasonably well.

Roy x

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 12:13 am

Roy,

I believe most thinking people know this to be true. I was asking more about thoughts regarding the ‘secretive’ aspect and why you didn’t mention the exclusion of Scientologists from the Declaration as well as Masons?

vermithrax
vermithrax

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com
Latest from Jim Stone:

Dec 9 2014

The real reason for Ferguson riots: Mom and Pop refused to sell.

What triggered Ferguson to become the center of a national propaganda campaign that could very well be used to take away more rights and freedoms? Why was that exact spot chosen for this? Because some high level super rich corporate types decided they wanted to take the main avenue of Ferguson and turn it into a large strip mall, and mom and pop stores refused to sell.

Take a look at this initiative which failed because mom and pop stores said NO:

Now take a look at a map of the fires in Ferguson. They match the exact location of this initiative, which failed. The riots badly devalued all properties in the same area after the local businesses refused to sell out to allow the initiative to happen. And because the scamming zio press and others use any opportunity they can to destroy rights and freedoms in today’s America, obviously Fema testing and martial law type scenarios became part of this picture.

I discovered this new info from a post to the forum by John Carter. He has a TON of additional info that cinches this up in a body bag in his post to the Forum, it is a great read!

This initiative was supposed to be approved by June 30 2014 but failed because local businesses refused to allow it to happen. This puts the imported rioters which even the Mayor commented about into an entirely new perspective, obviously they were brought in by big money somewhere to cheapen the area and give the local business owners second thoughts about being there.

This initiative, which was fronted as “a plan to re-invent the unproductive Ferguson” is a great explanation for the riots. With mom and pop having their property values reduced to pennies on the dollar from all the rioters who (at least at first) were well proven and publicly announced by the Mayor himself to be paid imports who arrived on buses from Chicago, a rich corporateer can now buy up Ferguson CHEAP and make it into a whole new place and to hell with mom and pop!

If you want to know who is behind the riots in Ferguson, the entire charade, just wait and see who buys up all the devalued businesses and THROW HIM STRAIGHT IN JAIL.

I discovered the above Ferguson info from a post to the forum by John Carter. He has a TON of additional info that cinches this up in a body bag in his post to the Forum, it is a great read!

UPDATE: In what appears to be a response to this web site and forum BUSTING Ferguson, the front page of the web site for the buying up and re-development of the riot zone has been taken offline. HOWEVER, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE STILL ONLINE ON THE SAME WEB SITE, GET WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD, ALL ARE LINKED THROUGH THE FORUM.

patricia
patricia

I have to ask as I am perplexed.

WHY is it that they have decided to release the ‘torture reports’? The WHY is very important. We just need to figure it out.

Zionist Andrea Mitchell issued this report this morning:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-release-post-9-11-torture-report-senate-intelligence-committee-n264126

jimbo
jimbo

“If you suspect that your work or activities put you at risk of targeted surveillance you may wish to use Detekt to scan your computer for traces of known spyware.”

https://www.resistsurveillance.org/

jimbo
jimbo

I have to ask as I am perplexed.

WHY is it that they have decided to release the ‘torture reports’? The WHY is very important. We just need to figure it out.

Zionist Andrea Mitchell issued this report this morning:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-release-post-9-11-torture-report-senate-intelligence-committee-n264126

Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 1:01 am

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An American intelligence operative suggested this morning that the report release was purely political, and was an effort to discredit the previous Republican administration. I would agree, and would speculate that the ultimate objective is to somehow influence the American populace to vote for a democratic president in the next cycle. This way, a predominantly Republican congress and a Democratic president would present a convenient excuse to stonewall any reforms that might come down the road.

Controlled opposition.

gillfinn
gillfinn

“If you want to know who is behind the riots in Ferguson, the entire charade, just wait and see who buys up all the devalued businesses and THROW HIM STRAIGHT IN JAIL.”
Comment by vermithrax on December 10, 2014 @ 12:57 am

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What’s with all the ‘CAPS’ and carrying on about throwing corrupt, corporate vultures in jail? How does he purport himself to be a reliable source of information when he’s writing of a corrupt government entity comprised of an equally corrupt ‘legal’ system serving justice? Bad guys putting bad guys in jail?

Is he not aware that’ll never happen within this current system, or is he simply screaming for the sake of screaming? In other words, does he really know, or not, what’s actually taking place around him?

peeps
peeps

Where are you Mr Wilcock?

jimbo
jimbo

Until the new alternative energy sources come online, why should we even consider developing nuclear energy? Not only is it too dangerous, it is not needed.

Abiotic oil is real:

http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoil.html

patricia
patricia

Comment by jimbo on December 10, 2014 @ 1:11 am

Jimbo,

Thank you for your reply. I thought of that as well but it just can’t be the primary reason. It’s just too obvious. My gut tells me it’s something else. I’ll just have to sit with this one. Anyone else have any thoughts about the possible reason behind the obvious one?

K-Puppy

I wanted to chime in on Carol’s wonderful ‘Declaration of Interdependence’…

Regarding the opening Plato quote….

Plato may very well have been one of the bad guys as the architect of this current “matrix” we find ourselves trapped within. He and the military general Archytas were heavy duty worshipers of Dionysus, the horned god of the underworld..ie. Set/Satan. They channeled and received the information for the sacred geometry/math that goes against nature.
ie. the Freemasons ‘squaring of the circle’ which goes against the natural harmonics of reality.

Apparently Jacob Astor had the correct harmonic resonance technology based on the 3:4:5 triangle that is hidden by the Skull and Bones Society.

Heavy duty stuff and I don’t have any links…

intruth
intruth

That is the other method used in freemasonry and intelligence circles. The silo approach. You only know what you need to know and are therefore unable to compromise the whole. Dont ask questions above your paygrade. Im sure you see what Im saying.
Roy x
Comment by roytheboy on December 9, 2014 @ 9:16 pm
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This is how they have compromised our military and intelligence agencies.

intruth
intruth

I remember reading a couple of years back that someone suggested watching CBS for true info – it would come out there.
Could it be that CBS will become anti cabal?
Who owns CBS?
Comment by cornpoppin on December 9, 2014 @ 10:33 pm
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That sounds familiar to me too. But I think it was Drake that said it, so take it with a grain of salt. Especially since CBS seems to be at the forefront of bringing back the Sandy Hook hoax. The truth has to be tamped down.

intruth
intruth

As for WW2 ending, it was only officially ended with Japan, but not the Third Reich in exile, which has kept us under a constant state of war from the point on, and because of this, we can not legally declare war on another nation until the last one has officially ended. And yes, this is all officially documented in the Department of Defense. This was all brought to light by someone who had access to those documents, by the name of Douglas Dietrich who worked in the Department of Defense. It sheds a whole new light on why we and our country are being subjected to the crap we have been, and still are being put through by this government. His website is linked below.
http://www.douglasdietrich.com/
Comment by marhuff55 on December 9, 2014 @ 4:41 pm
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Good info Martin.

vermithrax
vermithrax
intruth
intruth

Thanks CarolM for all your hard work and diligence on the Declaration of Interdependence. You nailed it!

K-Puppy

Yes, Douglas Dietrich is my hero.

Take the history lessons a bit at a time as they will blow your mind because everything you think you know is still wrong.
He was on Coast to Coast AM this past Sunday night discussing Pearl Harbor…
maybe someone here can find and post a link for it?

His shows are on Tuesday and Saturday nights at 10 PM EST.
on freedomslips.com

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 1:28 am

Well, if the Intel is correct, and there really are two factions of the CIA, it would be obvious which one this is report is aimed at. Seems like a good way of bringing them to light in this. Though in the end, it will damage the reputation of the “good” faction, all because most have not figured out that there are two CIA’s in this country.

intruth
intruth

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 1:13 am

Geez Gil. All caps is just Jim’s way of shouting for emphasis.

I’ve been thinking about all the people in the Alt Media that do NOT talk about our being slaves to the crown. Greg Hunter, Sean at SGTreport.com – actually most don’t.

I’ve only been ‘aware’ since 2012. And in the first year I heard about this – it was from Drake. But I came across that Meet your Strawman vid on youtube and saw other stuff.

A lot of folks don’t go down the ‘alien’ path either. It’s not their MO.

Hey does anyone know if the VT guys have ever discussed this?

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

Apparently, Bush Jr. and Cheney et. al. are getting hung out to dry with the torture report. Their protestations that “They did not know” are being set on fire with the chronology being set out by Diane Feinstein.

The value of the “intell” from the torture is being completely torn apart. The Senate concluded that not one of the 20 example cases given by CIA for the VALUE of WHAT THEY FOUND with torture actually saved anybody from anything. They said that the reports provided were incorrect, dealt with non-existent plots and that the only valuable information came from NON-TORTURE sources.

A commentator before Feinstein pointed out that the CIA was “only doing what the PRESIDENT (i.e. Bush Jr) told them to do.” Feinstein made it clear that BUSH KNEW what was going on.

THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE WORST ABUSES CAME FROM A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR IS BEING UNDERSCORED HEAVILY. They have called Michael Hayden, “a Liar” several times without using those words. Hayden said that the techniques were not “physically harmful,” Feinstein said, “the methods used in the field did not utilize the CONTROLS listed in Washington when employed in the field. These activities were physically harmful and used for extended lengths of time.”

The CIA said that the techniques would not be used for extensive lengths of time, would be used in progression from the least harmful to the worst. Interrogators were extremely well-trained…etc., etc..

Feinstein, “None of these assurances were consistenly…or even routinely carried out.”

NAI2010

PS: I am studying, but this is history in process.

intruth
intruth

December 8, 2014

Galactic Connections Host Alexandra Meadors explores with Kevin Annett the deeper meaning of his work and the historic breakthroughs of the ITCCS and common law movement, and the establishment of the Republic of Kanata as a nation of equals that spans the globe.

http://galacticconnection.com/breaking-interview-kevin-annett-alexandra-meadors-december-7-2014-wave-growing-time-take-back-rights-folks/

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 1:49 am

Believe me intruth, if people would check this out, it will turn much of what we have been taught as history completely on it’s ear. It will also open peoples eyes as to why our country is in the condition and position it is this very day. In short, the American citizens have been lied to by every Presidential administration, and by both parties, for well over a hundred years. They fed us what they wanted us to believe is our history, in other words they wrote it with their spin.

intruth
intruth

Comment by nai2010 on December 10, 2014 @ 2:04 am

Remember the pictures that came out from Abu Ghraib torture sessions? The prison walls covered in blood.

Who needs a torture report.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by K-Puppy on December 10, 2014 @ 1:54 am

I saw him on Gaiam TV, and listened to him on Coast to Coast. He doesn’t pull punches at all.

intruth
intruth

Will anything happen to Bush and Cheney b/c of the torture report? Not until the world is upended.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Patricia,
I dont know enough about the scientology movement to comment. The thrust of my argument however, is that if any person has an allegiance to any body that meets in secret, has an occult agenda and does not openly disclose it then clearly such membership should be classed as a ‘conflict of interest’ and be excluded.

The same argument applies to dual citizenship. Particularly Israeli/US. How can we ever know where their allegiance lies?
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Comment by K-Puppy on December 10, 2014 @ 1:31 am

I understand that Plato was an initiate of the Elusian mysteries. This was where people attended a ceremony where they imbibed a substance, psychedelic in nature and I understand that after this experience all of their questions were answered. Again, all in this cafe know my views on the use of psychedelics and their impact. I have not studied the life of Plato but I thought the quote was apt for our purposes. The words express what we are trying to say. It is not a comment upon the life of Plato per se.
If you think that the quote is from somebody who should be considered to be a ‘bad guy’ and we should not use them then I bow to your superior knowledge and you were quite right to raise it.

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Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 1:32 am

Exactly!

Roy x

carolm
carolm

I have no desire to attend a shit eating party any day soon and will not sign any declaration that does not specifically exclude them. They are part of the problem.

Roy x
Comment by roytheboy on December 9, 2014 @ 9:27 pm

Hi Roy,

We are declaring our INTERdependence and our connectedness. It is hard to do that in the same document where you start to list exclusions. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around how to do that.

The subconscious mind operates at 40 million bits of data per second, whereas the conscious mind processes at only 40 bits per second.

By listing exclusions we are using the conscious operating system, but by declaring our connectedness, we are starting to turn the tables and operate with the other connected part of the brain.

The way a whole healthy body works is when something “foreign” like a sliver or a cancer or an archon of sorts takes root, the whole organism goes into gear to make white blood cells, or get the atopsis working to eject that which considers itself separate or a parasite, etc. A body with ‘disease’ can be preyed upon by fearful emotions that can sabotage these natural systems of cleansing.

By listing exclusions, we are back to using divisiveness. When we begin to act as a whole, these organizations based on exclusion and divisiveness and fear will wither and die. We are moving into a super-conscious state of health.

I’ll think about something on transparency and openness, but I’m trying to make the whole thing shorter, not longer at this point. Any thoughts on edits are welcome!

marhuff55
marhuff55

I like the fact that Douglas Dietrich stated that the ISIS base in this country, is the same one that is doing all of the fighting in the mid-east. They have a team that does nothing but roll playing. Find out who created them, and funds them, and you will have the answer as to why they are creating all of the conflict.

K-Puppy

High Roy,

Looking for some more solid info and came across this interesting book review of ‘The Stargate Conspiracy’…

http://cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm

Very Experienced,
K~PUP

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by roytheboy on December 9, 2014 @ 9:27 pm

Comment by carolm on December 10, 2014 @ 2:19 am

That has been the problem with this from the start. When you start creating a document of this type, keeping it short and sweet is the main goal. But if you are doing nothing but ending up writing a novel, you end up losing the reader that you are aiming it at. It’s just a common fact, that the attention span of most people is very short, and having a document that ends up being book sized, is a good way of having it by-passed by most of those people.

Grendizer

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Three Easy Ways To Avoid Obamacare

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marhuff55
marhuff55

Roy, why do you think the founding fathers kept the Declaration of Independence as short as they did? I’m sure they would love to have put every little detail in it, but, because of human nature, they knew that they couldn’t. They were counting on people using common sense in understanding the full scope of what it was aiming at, mainly because those people were living under the thumb of the king, and they were the ones suffering from it.

bodhi
bodhi

173 ……

thanks Ben..

gillfinn
gillfinn

I’ve only been ‘aware’ since 2012. And in the first year I heard about this – it was from Drake. But I came across that Meet your Strawman vid on youtube and saw other stuff.
A lot of folks don’t go down the ‘alien’ path either. It’s not their MO.
Hey does anyone know if the VT guys have ever discussed this?
Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 2:03 am
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Intruth, all CAPS is an annoying/kids way of getting attention. Solid information doesn’t need to be emphasized, it just is. IMHO.

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Patricia, I believe the nuclear energy issue is similar to the ‘torture’ issue, is similar to the search for cancer cure, is like the war on ‘terror etc…It’s the faux meme that msm continues as maintaining the status quo.

I believe it to be not only a train/stream/current of thought energy, but also a chasm that stands between those that are aware/awakening/ and sleeping, it’s a ‘freeze’ mechanism. I believe it’s one of the last remaining ‘pillars’ of ‘defense’ for them, like a ‘consciousness glue/adhesive’ that essentially is holding their entire hologram together at this point.

But that’s just me.

intruth
intruth

Wow, this guy is pretty interesting. From his website:

Douglas Dietrich was a D.O.D. (Department of Defense) Research Librarian for almost a decade, responsible for incinerating highly classified materials on critical historical topics such as Pearl Harbor, Roswell, Vietnam, and the different ethnic holocausts; as well as documents exposing the reality behind vampires, zombies, Soviet psychic warfare, and other occult phenomena.
Volumes of notes on Tesla, H.P. Lovecraft, L. Ron Hubbard, the Vatican and United Nations were destroyed, along with reams of reports detailing everything from military/intelligence-sponsored drug-smuggling operations to experimental mind-control programs.

Records plundered from both Allied and enemy states articulated the hidden objectives of modern mass-movements such as Natzism, Zionism, Islamism, Voodoo, and other ideologies.

His Post was The Presidio, San Francisco’s Western Defense Command Center, which was seething with Satanism, child abuse, and controversial medical experimentation. An assassination plot on presidential candidate William Clinton was even attempted.

Since base-closure, his background in military reference and his experiences in mercenary/security enforcement exposed him to startling insights into geopolitics, the current demographic apocalypse, and the medical-industrial complex thanatizing our future.

Weapons of Mass-Deception unleashed generations ago by increasingly self-deluded American élites have since warped the U.S. electorate’s very perception of reality — NOW is the time for TOTAL disclosure.

http://www.douglasdietrich.com/

K-Puppy

Right On Martin!
~Take it Light~
K~PUP

intruth
intruth

I like the fact that Douglas Dietrich stated that the ISIS base in this country, is the same one that is doing all of the fighting in the mid-east. They have a team that does nothing but roll playing. Find out who created them, and funds them, and you will have the answer as to why they are creating all of the conflict.
Comment by marhuff55 on December 10, 2014 @ 2:20 am
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Martin, do you have a link to the interview where he said all this stuff?

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 2:53 am

I have to agree gill. That is why the LSM keeps all of these topics “in your face” so to speak, as they are aimed at those whose minds are still open to their “programming”.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 2:58 am

I haven’t checked out YouTube yet, but what I heard from him came from Coast to Coast and Gaiam TV both. And you need to subscribe to them to hear it. I’m going to check out YouTube now and see if anyone posted it there, be back shortly.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Intruth, YouTube has a slew of his interviews if you want to check them out. Maybe there is something in one of them relating to the ISIS story. Just type in his name for the search.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 2:03 am
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Intruth, the ‘meet your strawman’ video, while good, is still the ‘long’ way around this issue of the ‘legal name’ and it’s going to be like trying to compare apples to donuts until folks decide to get a handle on it.

It’s all there to look at and discern, or not. I’m sure Jim Stone knows nothing about it and screaming at the ‘choir’ has been going on long enough, it’s become part of the fiber that’s used to the bad guys advantage now.

They incorporate it as a ‘mirror’ to mislead and dislocate. You’ll notice though, that no one in msm, or anywhere else is touching the ‘legal name’ issue, because there’s only one way it can be innerstood.

Once humans begin to understand/innerstand that they are much larger than a ‘name’ then and only then will this snowball begin to roll downhill.

“No one will lay us down and pour this information into our heads.” Quote from my Grandfather.

I’m beating a ‘dead horse’ again, but this has been where it’s all begun. I’m out.

gillfinn
gillfinn

They were counting on people using common sense in understanding the full scope of what it was aiming at, mainly because those people were living under the thumb of the king, and they were the ones suffering from it.
Comment by marhuff55 on December 10, 2014 @ 2:40 am

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Yes Martin, there was no precedent, as what we’re facing now. They knew it would be a collective metamorphosis, and amendments could/can always be made as the prototype takes life/form.

valtony
valtony

183

marhuff55
marhuff55

Intruth, he talks about ISIS in this interview. Go to the 19 minute mark, and that is where he starts talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ATOCZR5gI

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 3:15 am

That is spot on gill, thanks for the reply.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Carolm,
I understand the predicament.
How about this.

‘We the undersigned acknowledge that our allegiance to each other is more important than allegiance to any secret society, sect or other organisation which has the potential to separate and divide us and membership of any such organisation will always be secondary to my allegiance to my fellow man.’

Am I wide of the mark here?

Roy x

roytheboy
roytheboy

Marhuff ,

Why do you think the Freemasons didn’t mention secret societies?

It is not my intention to make the declaration any longer than it needs to be.

But it would be naive in the extreme to have a document that allows the idea that we, as the new ‘founding fathers’ have not recognised the significance and the potential destructive nature of such societies .

Roy x

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News December 9th, 2014

9 Sacred Shamanic Herbs For Radiant Health and Powerful Healing

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2014/12/09/9-sacred-shamanic-herbs-for-radiant-health-and-powerful-healing/

Shamanic wisdom regarding herbs goes far beyond mainstream knowledge and delves deep into the spiritual realms which remain virtually unexplored by modern science.

+ Be Well +

Truth

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Listening to the torture report now being aired over CNN. I’m in Hawaii, so far no restlessness detected. Vice-chairman criticizing release. It’s going to be an all day reporting on a 600 page summary of 6,000 page report. Bush interviewed says, they CIA were all good people, yes, who became indoctrinated at the same time to the same torture. Like working for the Coca Cola. (Break) there you go just confirmed, the CIA personnel were reduced to tears at what they were ordered to do and executed. Depopulation two ways. Getting back to CocaCola. Working in the factory you see these red and white cans passing at great speed before you. What effect would that have on your vision and related brain activity? Same animals in the “first torture technique” of America. Conducting criminal activity during war is considered a “war crime”.

Advertising break.

Malama pono,

Momi

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 4:29 am

I understand. What I am getting at is, why list each and every one of those dangerous societies by name, and for what reason? All because someone may not see one particular societies name and think that it got past the security gate because it wasn’t named, when in reality, if they would have used some common sense and understood that as a group, we would already know that these societies are “all” dangerous, and that they “ALL” are covered by the “short and sweet” version of the document. The idea Roy is, we already know that they are a danger to humanity.

roytheboy
roytheboy

But Martin.

Will they know in 300 years from now when they wonder why it’s all going wrong?

Does that sound familiar?

Roy

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 4:51 am

The only reason it sounds familiar, is because common sense was kept at bay for so long, and that is no long the situation. If people haven’t learned how to tap into the common sense source by now, they never will. IMO, we can only say so much to wake them up to that fact, and if they aren’t in the listening mode by now, well, we can’t force them to wake up and listen, only they can do that on their own.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Cafe,
I have expressed my views. I can do no more than that. Carolm has undertaken a huge task on our behalf and in no way do I underestimate the work she has put in and I am extremely grateful for it.
I believe this issue of allegiance to something other than each other is something fundamental to what we believe as a group here. If the choice is made to ignore what I have said then so be it.

I think we have done it to death.

On a personal level I will have difficulty adding my signature to a document that purports to encapsulate all we believe in but naively leaves the door open for secret societies to move in whenever they like. And they will, I can assure you. They are insidious.

I rest my case and will not mention it again.

Roy x

aneeson
aneeson

Hi Café,

Interesting discussion on the ‘Declaration’ and Roy’s apparent obsession with ‘secret societies’ – which is his right by the way!

However from my point of view, once we start ‘excluding’ any individual or group of individuals, then it is no longer about inter-dependence but about exclusivity and Carol’s aim was that is was a declaration of connectedness was it not?

BTW Roy – Masonic orders are not secret societies. Anyone can obtain info about them online and all of their rituals and ceremonies. They may be a society with secrets as are may businesses and clubs etc. But it is certain members who are the issue and not the groups of themselves.

Namaste,
Alan.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Understanding Our Eugenics Death Cult Society: Why You Should Watch the Film Zardoz

“The 1974 cult classic Zardoz is recognized more for the ridiculous outfit Sean Connery wears in the leading role than the underlying message about not just where society will one day go, but where society is already headed.

The power of the State has tipped towards extremism, and thus control over the population.

Behind this balance of power is the philosophy of its controllers, poisoned by the elite-mindset of the moneyed-class and the promise of progress through scientific rule by experts — a technocracy. All this has minimized the value of individuals. Life has been made cheap. It is a paradigm of Eugenics, where ethics have been rewritten to justify killing the weak, the poor, the burdensome, the unwanted and others considered lesser than, while promoting the ruling classes to above-the-law status.

A fantastic illustration of this model is found in the bizarre, dystopic cult move Zardoz, which depicts a world where the little people are ruled by a vicious warrior class, known as the “Brutals” who have enslaved them, forcibly controlled their reproduction, taught them to raise crops for sustenance at gun point and the chaos of raping and pillaging to thin the herd and condition them against any independence.”

http://youtu.be/MrGRi_WwRKs

aneeson
aneeson

Hi Roy,

“Any order where there are rituals, symbolism and where they have secrets that are linked to occultism”

The above applies to all religions. The word “occult” simply means “hidden” and the mysteries of the Divine are occult in all religious beliefs. Hence why I see religion as being part of the ‘game’ that we are subjected to in the 3D realm of being. The cabal and their controllers have used division through different religious groups for millennia.

But we should not deny members of all religions to be part of the collective that the declaration appeals to just because they belong to this or that religion. Otherwise there would only be athiests in the ‘allowed’ participants?

Namaste,
Alan.

patricia
patricia

Momi,

Mr. Dietrich’s site states the following which may be of interest to you:

The exposé which forced Douglas Dietrich into the arena of public awareness – Mr. Dietrich cited the documents which proved irrefutably that the United States instigated World War II in the Pacific before an audience of millions on George Noory’s Coast to Coast AM.

http://www.douglasdietrich.com/topics.html
Mr. Dietrich lays bare both the monumental hubris and folly of unmitigated American aggression and genocide in Pacific Asia: a series of monumental crimes against humanity that led to the first U.S.. invasion of Korea (directly following its own American Civil War) and the American installment of a Caucasian dictator over the Korean peninsula: Durham White Stevens. As well as the mass-murder of well over three million Filipino Muslims in aftermath of the Spanish-American war; spiraling into the corporate-lobbied American military overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy and the forced abdication and imprisonment of Hawaiian’s Queen Lili’u’okalani — only to culminate in an interdicted “flying tigers” air-strike on Japan that forced declaration of war on the United States by a united front of nations across the world.

patricia
patricia

‘We the undersigned acknowledge that our allegiance to each other is more important than allegiance to any secret society, sect or other organisation which has the potential to separate and divide us and membership of any such organisation will always be secondary to my allegiance to my fellow man.’

Am I wide of the mark here?

Roy x

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 4:22 am

Roy,

Just sharing-yes you sound ‘wide of the mark’. The above sounds a bit like a famous line from Animal Farm “All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal” 🙂

roytheboy
roytheboy

If I came across ‘obsessed’ then I apologise.
It’s because I care. I care about the future of humanity and though Alan may play it down, I can assure you freemasonry is not the innocuous organisation Alan would have you believe.

Alan presents a subtle brush off with his words. Typical of a mason. I have see it a million times and it messes with my energy. That’s how I recognise it.

Yes of course they have a public image and people like Alan are doing exactly what is expected of them. They play it down. I can’t tell you how many times I have heard the very words that Alan spoke ‘It’s a society with secrets not a secret society’. Pulleasse! They defend the indefensible.
Do your homework guys. This organisation was infiltrated in the 1700’s. So bad were they that the world head of freemasonry no less , wanted to disband his own organisation.

Answer me this, ‘Who is running the Masons now? The Freemasons or The Illuminati?

So Alan, you may not know the job you do. I can understand how that may feel right now to fully understand how these really clever illuminati play you like an old fiddle.

I wasn’t going to speak of this again but felt strangely drawn in to this debate.

On a Spiritual level this is very engaging for me. I feel as though on one level I am having a verbal exchange but on another I am entangling my energy with the energy of evil.

Maybe it’s just me!

I know some of you probably think I’m a bit off the wall at times, I talk about some weird stuff for sure but I feel very strongly, ‘entangled with regard to this issue. I prefer that word to ‘obsessed’ . That’s a Satanic word is it not Alan?

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Ok. Selected news media. There is no breaking news on Yahoo for the CIA torture report. NADA, nada, nada. Only on TV. What gives? So, how can the report cause world wide damage, if only on select news media? Anyone?

roytheboy
roytheboy

Patricia . That may be part of my childhood programming slipping into my terminology.
However, paradoxically that’s exactly why it’s difficult to come up with an organised way of living without being drawn into phrases such as ‘ All pigs are equal etc..’ I suspect that life is telling us not to try to organise so much, live organically in any way we can. However, it is better to try to organise I suppose, but who will be in charge? You or Me?

See how we are drawn into the same old shit. Us and them. Me and You. As soon as we try to reduce things into words we create something less than we strive for.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Oh and if I missed making the point. The Illuminati are the crowd that skin children alive, they get a better high the more they scream and the more scared the children are.

That’s probably why they subject them to anal sex before they start cutting them with a knife to really get the adrenaline going.
Then when they’ve drunk the blood and ate some of the flesh , that’s when they throw the torso to the dogs.

That’s the Illuminati I’m talking about. That’s the ones who have taken over the lodge Alan old boy.

Yes. Your lodge and every other lodge. If they need you, you will answer and you will do as you are asked. That’s how it works. Promise to defend a brother, even if they have committed murder. Those are the rules. So can we ever have a society that is even half decent with a little bit that’s secret from the rest of us?

Of course not.

There is no greater division than this.

patricia
patricia

” However, it is better to try to organise I suppose, but who will be in charge? You or Me?”

Me. 🙂

dilvet
dilvet

INDEPENDENCE-A flag and a song.We take this for granted.

IN DEPENDENCE- This is more like the truth of the situation.

roytheboy
roytheboy

If anybody missed the point. This is where the energies of dark and light meet. This is not about myself and Alan. We are mere pawns in the game.

We just say the words that our spirits suggest for us. But there is an entanglement of energy going on right now for sure. I feel it.

Roy x

roytheboy
roytheboy

Patricia. I would be your willing servant!

aneeson
aneeson

I prefer that word to ‘obsessed’ . That’s a Satanic word is it not Alan?
Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 7:53 am

Hi Roy,

We are obviously at odds here.

How do you rate a word ‘satanic’ or otherwise? To me the word obsessed means ‘over pre-occupied’. The Oxford dictionary has it as “Preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually and to a troubling extent”.

Okay, so you prefer “feel strongly” – that fine but just as one can pick up a personality or meme in a book (regarding the author), so I have picked up that you regard anything to do with masons as evil – am I wrong?

Having been initiated and participated I know things about the particular group I was involved in that only ‘belonging to’ can give you. You not having been a member (presumable?)can only infer from other sources.

Most here know that I am no longer an active member – I have no axe to grind, but I do comment (as you do) when I find someone apparently attacking a set of individuals because they do not approve of them.

I do not comment on the Male craft group as I have not been affiliated with them and have no knowledge of them other than the general media and websites etc.

The co-masonic order is not linked to any other group but does use an amended form of the Scottish Rite (with to me some significant spiritual additions). However as in all things you could even question what is meant by ‘spiritual’ could you not.

Kindest regards and with love,
Alan.

roytheboy
roytheboy

I’ve always had a woman in charge of me. it all started with my mom.

I won’t bore you with the rest..

Ha Ha!

roytheboy
roytheboy

We have said our words Alan.

I know you defend your buddies from your heart. I understand honestly I do. I bear you no malice. it’s not in my heart to be able to do that.

The Illuminati have infiltrated the lodges of the world. My energy is not against you and your lodge buddies. Absolutely not. I am against the evil that is the Illuminati. Your secret Masonic organisation is compromised and can no longer be trusted.

Roy x

intruth
intruth

Comment by marhuff55 on December 10, 2014 @ 3:43 am

Thanks Martin.

intruth
intruth

How Doctors Prescribing Meds Based on Drug Company Payoffs is Further Evidence of Systemic Failure

Michael Krieger | Posted Monday Dec 8, 2014

When the drug maker Genentech introduced a major product in 2006, it found itself in an awkward position: persuading eye doctors to start using its new more expensive drug instead of a popular cheaper version that the company already sold.

Ophthalmologists had been enthusiastically using the company’s cancer drug Avastin, which cost about $50 a dose, to treat a common eye disease in the elderly, wet macular degeneration. Then Genentech introduced Lucentis, a nearly equivalent drug that cost $2,000 a dose and was approved specifically to treat the disease.

Now, a new federal database shows that many of the doctors who were the top billers for Lucentis were also among the highest-paid consultants for Genentech, earning thousands of dollars to help promote the drug. The data raises questions about whether financial relationships between doctors and drug companies influence treatment decisions, even though physicians maintain they cannot be swayed.

Half of the 20 doctors who received the most money from Genentech to promote Lucentis in 2013 were among the highest users of the drug in 2012, billing for higher amounts of Lucentis than 75 percent of their peers. The figures were compiled from two federal databases that covered different periods, and it is not known whether or how much Genentech paid the doctors in 2012.

http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/12/08/how-doctors-prescribing-meds-based-on-drug-company-payoffs-is-further-evidence-of-systemic-failure/

valtony
valtony

lunch

winifred
winifred

I used to be an active member of the Mormon church and was active for many years. The Book of Mormon is a collection of records translated by Joseph Smith and is a record of peoples who inhabited North and South American over two thousand years ago. It has some great historical information not the least of which is how the Native Americans came to be here. It is in the Book of Mormon over and over how history repeats itself. Hmmmm. That part is true. Also that it was compiled for modern day… for us. We as a society are warned to beware “the secret combinations” and “the judges” as they were what ultimately caused the downfall of their civilizations. Seems like if we were being warned from a voice from about 2000 years ago about the same folks that we are still fighting against… who are trying to destroy us as the other civilizations were destroyed, then it might have information that could be helpful in us obtaining our freedoms. I am NOT an active Mormon… I practice shamanism and consider myself a part of Mother Earth. I resonate with what Carolm is saying with the declaration. If anyone needs another reason to believe in the nefarious plans of the “illuminated” ones, check out a copy of the Book of Mormon. It is all in there as a warning for us. Not trying to convert anyone, just share another source that validates what is going on in the world these days.

intruth
intruth

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 3:10 am

Graham,

Can you post a link that would be good source for this info? What do you recommend?

intruth
intruth

Common law Sheriffs will arrest pedo Pope during Sept. 2015 USA visit

DECEMBER 8, 2014 BY ALFRED LAMBREMONT WEBRE

http://newsinsideout.com/2014/12/kevin-annett-common-law-sheriffs-oathkeepers-will-arrest-pedo-pope-sept-2015-usa-visit/
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Here is an article about arresting the Pope.

vermithrax
vermithrax

Teaser trailer for a new movie called “San Andreas”. Note the Illuminati symbolism repeated again about catastrophic events they secretly plan in plain sight …in this case, the destruction of the Hoover Dam…
http://www.darkhorizons.com/trailers/embed/12347/?TB_iframe=true&height=504&width=845&modal=false

gillfinn
gillfinn

Hello Intruth, this is what I posted last week and it’s probably the best, most recent interview.

The Legal Name Illusion, Triple Crown Control, & The 440 Hz Conspiracy

http://youtu.be/c0Ik9NABicg

gillfinn
gillfinn

‘We the undersigned acknowledge that our allegiance to each other is more important than allegiance to any secret society, sect or other organisation which has the potential to separate and divide us and membership of any such organisation will always be secondary to my allegiance to my fellow man.’
Am I wide of the mark here?
Roy x
Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 4:22 am
Roy,
Just sharing-yes you sound ‘wide of the mark’. The above sounds a bit like a famous line from Animal Farm “All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal” 🙂
Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 7:31 am

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I truly understand the goal here, but how would we keep secret groups from forming by telling them they’re not wanted? They’re secret and that’s what they do.

I’m not trying to be an a-hole. I think if the future’s full of vibrant conscious peeps, it’ll be fairly difficult for these guys to move-in the same way, but it would be interesting.

patricia
patricia

Patricia. I would be your willing servant!

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 8:32 am

Sorry Roy, I don’t believe in the concept of servant. If I was leader, I would want to be called something like “she who is fair to all”.

roytheboy
roytheboy

You say ‘She who is fair to all’ ?
I say ‘Smarty Pants’

X

roytheboy
roytheboy

Got To go guys. I am drained.
Work in the morning, and sometimes they expect me to do stuff!

It’s such an imposition.

Roy x

patricia
patricia

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 8:48 am

Intruth,

I’m sure the doctors can’t be swayed by mere money, right?

What a crock!! I personally know 5 different pharma reps and ALL have told me the same thing. The doctors do NO independent research on what a drug does or harmful effects. They simply ‘Myna Bird’ what the rep says to their patients. They get perks for writing certain prescriptions as well.

If I am stepping on any doctors toes on this board, I’m open to hearing your side. I speak only of first hand conversations I’ve had for years with those reps in the pharma industry.

patricia
patricia

I say ‘Smarty Pants’

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 10:18 am

I have no concept of what ‘smarty pants’ means to you. To me it means a pair of well fitting pants. I guess it’s that word thingy again. Obsession/possession? I guess it depends on our His-story as to how we process words and how they affect us?

patricia
patricia

I sent the following to Ben. His reply follows.

Do you think that this might be worth a mention in next week’s report? The more we can let THEM know that WE KNOW what they are doing, the better, eh?

From a poster:

Something I learned today explains why, since WW2, we have never declared a war against another nation. Look at our history of fighting since WW2. You will see that from the Korean conflict up to today, not once was a declaration of war ever implemented against a country we have fought. Why? During WW2, Roosevelt instituted a permanent state of war as to be able to keep his war time powers alive, even if the war was to end, and has since been handed down from President to President to this very day(Why do you think that Bush and Obama have gotten away with taking so many of our rights away during these last few years our country has been fighting overseas? Because of those war time powers Roosevelt established and never lifted since WW2). As for WW2 ending, it was only officially ended with Japan, but not the Third Reich in exile, which has kept us under a constant state of war from the point on, and because of this, we can not legally declare war on another nation until the last one has officially ended. And yes, this is all officially documented in the Department of Defense. This was all brought to light by someone who had access to those documents, by the name of Douglas Dietrich who worked in the Department of Defense. It sheds a whole new light on why we and our country are being subjected to the crap we have been, and still are being put through by this government. His website is linked below.

http://www.douglasdietrich.com/
Comment by marhuff55 on December 9, 2014 @ 4:41 pm

Ben’s reply:

Hi XXX,
Yes I have known about that for a long time. I will mention it in the next report.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

patricia
patricia

I sent Ben another e-mail with a bloggers request:

Ben,

A blogger is making a request. With so many posts by the end of each week, it does sound like a good idea if it is possible.

Here is the post:

Thanks for posting responses from Ben.
Just had a thought… What do people think about suggesting to Ben that he change one setting on this blog? He could have comments appear in reverse chronological order. It would make for much easier reading without needed to endlessness scroll….

Lisa

Comment by lmsk on December 9, 2014 @ 8:40 pm

Ben’s reply:

Hi XXX,
Let me ask the webmaster to arrange that.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

quando
quando

I have just been told that apparently Benjamin Fulford went to a JESUIT College or School in Japan and that his Grandfather actually started GENERAL ELECTRICS with ROCKEFELLER as a PARTNER IN THE VENTURE. BEN certainly comes from DEEP ROOTS in the CABAL. Is this TRUE BEN??????????

quando
quando

I was curious to know, because apparently it is the JESUIT’S that are the CONTROLLER’S at the TOP of the FOOD CHAIN

quando
quando

and I got my Information from this woman- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC0ogEIc9h0

patricia
patricia

Comment by quando on December 10, 2014 @ 10:35 am

I don’t recognize you being a poster in this café so your post is quite suspect. Therefore, I sent your post to Ben just now and we’ll just let him answer you directly. Does that work for you?

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Listening to Rachel Maddow show, Bruce Jensen and James Mitchell were paid $81 MILLION to design the CIA torture program. Both are psychologist with no experience in interrogation. She began her show recounting the remaining hidden life of Yuri Nosenko living under a witness program somewhere in a south state. He died at 81 before Kennedy assassination. Was offered an apology and $80,000 by the CIA before he died for using torture techniques on him. A manual was created in the 60s. Nosenko was telling the truth. Knew about Lee Harvey Oswell (spelling?) The manual was used and destroyed, but a foreign country got hold of it, used it and gonged for using it.

Her parting remark. Not only was it wrong, it was a mess of a program. It did nothing to accomplish what it was suppose to accomplish. It was a mess. Now how do you prosecute people who were inexperienced in that mess. Like Mubarak? So, if these human beings who conducted the atrocities are scott free of any wrong, because they screwed up, how much more can you prosecute Barrack Hussein Obama? (My comment). Rachel said if you cannot prosecute Bush and those involved, then label them and PARDON them so it goes on record they were involved in the CRIME. Oh, smart decision. As for those who suffered physical damage they can still collect monetary restitution individually under civil rights violation. It is far from over.

Malama pono,

Momi

lmsk
lmsk

Just started watching to the video linked by “quando” regarding Ben. Discussion on what she claims starts at acout 43 minutes.

lmsk
lmsk

Correction. 45 minutes.

peaceandjoy
peaceandjoy

Thanks, Ben,
When will the suppressed technologies, such as free energy, be released,so that the people can be more prosperous?

valtony
valtony

234

patricia
patricia

In the interest of follow up-

Don’t listen is you don’t like the subject matter.

The interview with “Charlie” regarding Chicago’s Interview With “Charlie” NOC About Wilcock Keenan Fraud Part One

I am just starting to listen but since I brought this to the blog, I felt I should follow up and post the actual interview. You are smart people and I’m not posting to get people to agree or disagree with the material but merely to hear it and make your own decisions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD_6-TS5nuE

patricia
patricia

Here is what it says on Jean Haines site as well:

Published on Dec 9, 2014

Other important background material here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4rD…

The alternative news reporting and broadcasting community must clean up it’s act.

The broadcast submission regarding the subject of the Wilcock – Keenan Internet Fraud Feedback Loop featured here is Part One which is an interview with “Charly” (cover name for anonymity at present) who is a former ‘non-official-cover’ individual, or NOC agent of the American government who was based in Europe for a number of years that was an expert investigator who specialized in detecting fraud regarding high value financial instruments. These kinds of actual real instruments are used to fund various types of banks and other financial activities of government operations, as well as businesses.

Much of this world is unknown to the public. This gives the viewer the background material necessary to consider as we expose how frauds like this occur and reveal how this fraud which has already occurred upon many folks, who were innocently duped into giving Neil Francis Keenan funds for his fraudulent activity regarding a story he has foisted upon a gullible public. He was aided by the celebrity of David Wilcock who certified him as being credible on Wilcock’s website which the author, Wilcock, linked to another story about an alleged government coup being perpetuated high up within the eschelons of the CIA and the military which aired on the date of 11 May 2012 over the airwaves on Premier Network’s Coast To Coast AM hosted by George Noory.

The beginning of the story as far as the public is concerned started with David Wilcock being interviewed by Noory. The purpose of the show was a veiled operation of book selling by way of a fantastic story being told by Wilcock which never materialized but did sell some books for the badly sourced author.

To understand how the monetary system actually works in it’s present state of confusion and as part of the background information which helps the viewer understand the confusion revolving around international fraud, such as the one being cited here, please see our “Interview With Bill Still” at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4rD…

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/

patricia
patricia

Charlie talks about a Billionaire, Tom Perkins who was targeted by the US government because they wanted his $250 million dollar yacht called the Maltese Falcon.

Here is proof that Tom Perkins owned that yacht per Wikipedia.

Charlie says in the interview “If the government will go after a billionaire, they will go after anyone”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maltese_Falcon_(yacht)

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I don’t like Roy’s suggestion at all.

I think including his passage would water down Carol’s idea.

And defining what is a secret society and what is not would be impossible.

Furthermore it’s redundant to whole theme of interdependence.

It’s a declaration that by it’s very nature declares the “exceptional-ism” of all cabals extinct.

patricia
patricia
patricia
patricia

I was curious to know, because apparently it is the JESUIT’S that are the CONTROLLER’S at the TOP of the FOOD CHAIN

Comment by quando on December 10, 2014 @ 10:37 am

Here is your reply from Ben regarding what you posted earlier:

Hello XXX,

My great grand-father, George Taylor Fulford, was born as the 13th son of a tombstone maker in Brockville, Ontario, Canada. He made a fortune selling patent medicine, most notably iron pills. This was at a time when people were suffering from anemia because the new flour mills were producing pure white flower without any nutritional value other than empty calories.

He built factories around the world including in Shanghai, China. Since Mitsuru Toyama, one of the founders of the Black Dragon Society, worked through a series of pharmacies used as fronts in Shanghai, he almost certainly knew my great grandfather.

George Fulford became the largest single shareholder in General Electric. He died in a suspicious car crash in 1905. After that, all the GE shares were sold at a discount to the Rockefellers. All the local newspaper accounts of the incident have been stolen but I strongly suspect John Rockefeller the first had him killed.

My grandfather was only 3 years old at the time so he could not defend the fortune his father bequested him.

Nonetheless, my grandfather was a member of Parliament and head of the Pacific Relations Committee of the Canadian government before and during World War 2.

It is true that I went to Sophia University in Tokyo, a Jesuit college, for 3 1/5 years. My degree though is from the University of British Columbia. Furthermore, my father was an atheist, my mother and agnostic and I believe in a creator (the proof is the creation) but never considered myself a Catholic or a Jesuit.

However, since my great grandfather was a rich man and a senator, my grandfather a member of parliament and my father an ambassador, I definitely come from an elite family. I did not inherit any fortune though and rely on this blog and on my Japanese books to pay my rent and my monthly bills.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン

mkddachs

The Forecaster: Can This Computer Predict The Future? (The Government Certainly Thinks So)

For nearly ten years economic forecaster Martin Armstrong sat in a federal prison.

He had not be charged with any crime. He was never given a trial. They simply arrested him, seized his life’s work, and threw away the key.

Why?

Because according to many in the global trading community he had devised a computer model that was capable of coalescing and analyzing thousands of years of economic, political and financial data. The system he had built was so “intelligent” that it allowed his firm Princeton Economics to literally predict the rise and fall of entire nations……

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-forecaster-can-this-source-code-predict-the-future_12082014
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Martin Armstrong-Next Decline Will Be Far Worse
Than Last One

Published on Sep 14, 2014

On the recent strength of the U.S. dollar, financial expert Martin Armstrong says, “The central banks only have the dollar, that’s it. It is the reserve currency.

We just had a former Obama economist come out a few days ago and say the risk to the United States is a strong dollar, and we should give up the reserve currency position.

Why? Because they realize there is no other choice. What are you going to do, put your retirement money in rubles? How about Yuan? There is no place you can go. It’s only dollars…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcBBiy3DybI
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Martin Armstrong – Nov. 14, 2014 – Outrage Obama Wants To Regulate Internet

US proposed regulation of Internet veiled threat to free speech.
Guest’s website: http://armstrongeconomics.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KKrLSHsJ0

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Martin Armstrong The Stock Market Will Double By 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW_96phZvoA
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Martin Armstrong Stock Market to Double within 2 Years & Retirement Accounts Confiscation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYal9ndXi1I

mkddachs

Mozart Sinfonia Concertante K 364 Violin & Viola, David & Igor Oistrakh Yehudi Menuhin Moscow Philar

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Sinfonia Concertante K 364 in E flat major for Violin Viola and Orchestra
David & Igor Oistrakh, violin & viola
Yehudi Menuhin conducts Moscow Philarmonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoLvL0ZkA0w

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 10:29 am

Patricia, thanks for passing that along to Ben. I do hope that he uses some of that info in his next posting. It’s high time people start to understand how long the lying has been going on, and how deep the lying goes. You can clearly see from what we have been taught in school, that this countries history has been written in favor of the government, by the government, to make them look good in the eyes of the people, even the atrocities they committed.

wheelie
wheelie

Mozart Sinfonia Concertante K 364 Violin & Viola, David & Igor Oistrakh Yehudi Menuhin Moscow Philar

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Sinfonia Concertante K 364 in E flat major for Violin Viola and Orchestra
David & Igor Oistrakh, violin & viola
Yehudi Menuhin conducts Moscow Philarmonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoLvL0ZkA0w
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comment by mkddachs on December 10, 2014 @ 2:28 pm

I am in love or at quite the very least in lust.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VDXzZ1Gc2I

This couple of multi instrumentalists
Got a Unique thing going on

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Valtony

I love your posts

Lunch or Dinnertime

Don’t forget the Bananas and Fish

the endless recipes

Anchovies Plantain was my favorite

wheelie
wheelie

Hi Caleb,

I could never get the anchovies to sidle with the plantain.
What’s your secret? I Mashed ’em together, pretty darn good. Just sayin’

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I’ve not been a student of astrology

but I think it has cred

This guy is the poet of short readings

http://www.freewillastrology.com/horoscopes/virgo.html

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Wheelie

It looks like a banana Split

In A mole sauce
gently impress the anchiove into the flesh of the banana
\
grill for two minutes

pour on the mole sauce

wheelie
wheelie

I love mole bruthuh! Certainly, I will try it out, maybe with Kodo and Mrs. Kodo.
Thanks! Keep on truckin’

wheelie
wheelie

May be a few weeks but we will get back to you. I can’t speak for them but I like chocolate, peanut butter and anchovies – though never together. Tried it with Avocados – excellent!

Quisas en dos semanas o menos, El Kodonator y La Kodonatora vamos a comer las cosas que prescribieron el Calebrennan! !Felicidades!

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Patricia @ 1:15 PM

Interesting observation. When I checked the link, it revealed other links. One caught my attention, the Kingdom of Maharlika. I did a search on this couple of months ago kind of sort of related to our mystery person we met via a Skype conference call. The kingdom purports to include the Hawaiian islands and Guam making it appear that the Philippines OWNS Hawaii they said. Of course, that news did not sit well with our core. We are leaving that issue alone to continue where we need to go.

I’m still using my iPhone. I’m able to bring up the link then email to myself to view at leisure. I’m doing this method for any links posted.

Malama pono,

Momi

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

HAving a DC input and coming out AC

is interesting

My brother said it is intriguing

Energy not generated, but harvested

Yet his complaint was the scene at his Breaker Box the Main

Where Morin clamps a voltage meter on three cables

Was ridiculous

I’m not an electrician but I agree

I am not disagreeing with Morin I’m exploring an idea

he is promoting direct current

Edison burnt down Mansions in NY with DC

till Nik Tesla came around and Alternating Current AC\
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So

AC DC conversion occurring naturally?

so my Bro says

“Why is his home still on the grid?”

Fair Question
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All electric works as a circle

that why its called a
“Circuit”

So all connections have three leads

the ground, and a couple of electrons on a merry go round

I say we fund his concept

Just for his house

see what happens

nugget
nugget

** Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 1:52 pm **
Twists and turns..

For myself more of the picture falls into place..

I’ll give the man credit for truthing, though it probably hold have been disclosed earlier..

Regards & mahalo

nugget
nugget

Should

nugget
nugget

** Comment by calebbrennan on December 10, 2014 @ 4:51 pm **
Your brothers observation is astute.. I propose he is wirelessly harnessing grid power with his device unknowingly.. For he maintains electrostatic in nature, which by definition does not have a ‘magnetic’ aspect..

And yet 60hz?!

There is also hi frequency pulsed dc and its harmonics but I think tats over thinking ?!

Regards nonetheless

nugget
nugget

** . I propose he is wirelessly harnessing grid power with his device unknowingly.. **

“Not that’s there’s anything wrong with it..”

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I propose he is wirelessly harnessing grid power with his device unknowingly..
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While that is a possibility as we are glutted with wi fi

I still like Morins concept
of creating an envelope
to receive current in a new way
Dc to Ac

nugget
nugget

Wifi nots 60hz ?!

nugget
nugget

I’m not discounting anything mr morin has produced..

nugget
nugget

For if he indeed is doing that wireless thievery, then you have an EV that can drive down any road with a power line..

Im going out on a limb here, but Ill suggest there’s not many power lines without a road?!

As I said..

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Peanut Butter And Jelly

roytheboy
roytheboy

‘We the undersigned acknowledge that our allegiance to each other is more important than allegiance to any secret society, sect or other organisation which has the potential to separate and divide us and membership of any such organisation will always be secondary to my allegiance to my fellow man.’

Perhaps the opposite is more appropriate.

‘We the undersigned acknowledge that our allegiance to each other is less important than allegiance to any secret society, sect or other organisation. We recognise that whilst such organisations have the potential to divide us We are unable to declare that our membership of such an organisation will always be secondary to our allegiance to our fellow man.’

Is that better Caleb?

Even here in the brewing cauldron of new ideas we see the power and influence and unspoken fear of freemasonry. Who can speak ill of it if their parents, relatives or whatever are members. That is what is needed here.
There is this underlying feeling here that freemasonry in just a harmless kind of club where the chaps go to meet once a week and raise money for charity. That may be one arm of it. It plays it’s part well as we have seen with Alan.

How about the other baby killing, shit eating brigade who have infiltrated it?
If anyone can present evidence that the opposite of what I say is true then I am all ears.

Roy x
Citizen of the Planet Earth (None cult or secret society member. Has no pacts written or otherwise with Satan)

nugget
nugget

** Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 5:28 pm **

That a boy roy, or to paraphrase if I may ” we have seen the enemy, and it is us”

Now I see this a little differently to most it seems, but indeed the degree of distortion does not allow objectivity.. I speak for myself included..

To really behold we cannot judge, either good or bad.. Because as has been demonstrated, a lot of the good can do bad things..

Meh opinions of course..

Regards

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy

what is cool is she has incorporated a lot of suggestions and made it happen with heart.

Dude you are tripping
____________________________________________

“How about the other baby killing, shit eating brigade who have infiltrated it?

If anyone can present evidence that the opposite of what I say is true

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Proving an opposite.. thats funny

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy
Is that better Caleb?
Even here in the brewing cauldron of new ideas we see the power and influence and unspoken fear of freemasonry.
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No it not beter

Run for the hills , they’re coming to get you!

We all have power within us

trumps the asshole gluttony structure

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

the enemy is not us

it is the vacuum based life forms

they suck

Humans are good at sharing
You know that

nugget
nugget

You misunderstand my statement..

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

You misunderstand my statement..

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That’s the norm here

but we do try to look beyond

nugget
nugget

Ya, I’m sure you have the consensus of “we” involved ?!

How forward of you to remind me of unique, concise and if I were me reading my own advice not being me, bountiful..

Each to their own

nugget
nugget

Lol, I’ll let concise slide maybe..

=)

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Huh?

martha
martha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9c_dEhzbE

This video is long and not for everybody. Guess you would have to love history to watch it. Anyway, it tells how the vikings invaded the British Isles in the early middle ages.

Henry the bluetooth from Norway became christian/catholic. It was explained that Germany was invading Europe after they became catholic. Norway is located right above Germany ..His son started a christian crusade which included killing and stealing in the name of God. Henry became catholic perhaps as opposed to being invaded.

His son , immediately started building an army. Increased taxes..invaded England mainly but all of the British Isles. …started selling the people in slave trade! So this is what the catholic church did along with bringing christianity..started the slave trade, killing and stealing.

The video shows how the DNA of northern England and Scotland show viking blood to this day. This is important as Scotland is some say very important in freemasonry…Ireland and Wales do not show the viking DNA in their blood today. They eventually defeated the vikings or Norwegians.And kicked them out of the country.

Ireland has been persecuted every since. After the invasion and spread of catholicsm, the middle ages began otherwise known as the dark ages.

How pertinent to watch this video..I don’t think it is an accident that just now as our esteemed legislators found out that a lot of torture went on during the bush reign of terror….that abortion became known in mainstream religion as anathema to christianity after bush stole the 2000 election…then later birth control. WE have 5 supreme court justices who are catholic/fascists.Where there is no birth control ,i.e. South America, there is extreme poverty and ignorance. Easier to control.

The plan was to go back to another feudal system/dark age. Just as Ireland kicked the vikings/catholics out..WE will too. Unfortunately northern Ireland is catholic and this has been a problem for the country. Guess it was the influence of England.

Thomas Jefferson was a lifelong student. He voraciously studied history, science and everything else from what I have read No wonder he did not want a standing army and taxes. This is the way the madness begins. Jefferson was very popular with the people . His problems with Alexander Hamilton were related to money. Hamilton , as US treasurer wanted taxes and had already started stealing from the treasury and helping his friends with US taxes. Just like today.

After seeing this video, I do not think Jefferson was a mason. Some say he was atheist..I don’t believe it. He adhered to the teachings of Jesus, but thought he was a highly evolved man…not a God.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

National Security App

I have an app on my computer that hinders shutting it down. I decided to do a search for unusual apps. I found three, all added the same day, one of which is called a National Security app. Now, why should I have a national security app on my laptop?

Does anyone else have a national security app??

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

National Security app

It turns out I think it is a book that got downloaded?
not sure.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Ya, I’m sure you have the consensus of “we” involved ?!
How forward of you to remind me of unique, concise and if I were me reading my own advice not being me, bountiful..
Each to their own
Comment by nugget on December 10, 2014 @ 6:15 pm\
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My goal is to get kicked out

So far I’ve been unsuccessful

4 years

you gotta be kidding me
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I did go back in time and saw my earliest posts

and I sound the same

roytheboy
roytheboy

To have a Freemason or any other secret society member in a grassroots movement that seeks to challenge the status quo is like taking a loaded gun to a party.

It needs to be checked at the door.

If members of the cafe cannot see that then we are lost.

Roy x

Caleb,
You dont like the first statement which seeks to address this important issue and you dont like the opposite of that statement. Tell us what you really think. Dont just agree or disagree with anothers suggestion. Chip in!
Was your Dad a Mason? Are you a Mason? Come on lets flush em out! I do not fear Masons. I call them what they are. Dangerous and insidious.

As to your comment about ‘proving an opposite’. is that not how we prove or disprove something. One side will present evidence for the prosecution and the other side will present evidence for the defence. Thats how it works.

Seems this cafe may have been infiltrated too, it would have been naieve to have thought otherwise. Do I have any support here or would members prefer it if I kept my feelings and ideas to myself?

If that latter is the case then I will refrain from commenting here in the future. I will stick to reading comments only. Secure in the knowledge that this is a den of fools.

Roy x

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

depressing and inspiring

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

My last comment was to ,myself

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

All of this secret society stuff..

People have free will–so I suppose those will be a problem for a while.

But, my hope is that the energies will change and are changing now and people will loose interest in such things.

I remember though, that the Bible says all will be peace and then the shock of war will show up

but then we will finally put a sure end to it.

We really do have to be tough, our nature is to forgive-

but we must remember

grand daddy Bush never kept his agreed plea bargain

we are not dealing with honest people here.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy

Thanks for being the freemason sherlock

Yawn?

we all know that shit

We are going beyond that

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

One side will present evidence for the prosecution and the other side will present evidence for the defence. Thats how it works.
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If you are talking about the war criminals

Comeuppance is coming and long due

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

The architects of torture came from Chicago the strausiaon

Dick Cheney and all the architects of 911.

Project Wolfowitz

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Bush Rumsfield and Cheney

belong in Guantanamo
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Abu Graib

is a war crime

we’ve all seen the horrific images

roytheboy
roytheboy

Caleb.
Yes I am the Sherlock of freemasons. It seems i found another one in you.
Tell me Im wrong oh Brother caleb!

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

You have my support Roy, always.

Michael

roytheboy
roytheboy

Thankyou Michael. At last!
Shine your light!

roytheboy
roytheboy

You are right Caleb. We are going beyond that. So lets do it!

lucybean
lucybean

Do I have any support here or would members prefer it if I kept my feelings and ideas to myself?If that latter is the case then I will refrain from commenting here in the future. I will stick to reading comments only. Secure in the knowledge that this is a den of fools.

Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 7:03

Roy

We all come here with different opinions, we share these opinions and ideas because this is the place to do it! I enjoy hearing what concerns everyone, and finding out about things I have never heard about.

It can be hard to voice opinions that some don’t agree with, but don’t let that stop you. Share everything you want to!

On another note, I just spent the last 4 days in NY at a family reunion. Everytime I talked with my brother in law he was so mad he had to leave the room. I never got upset, I just gave my opinion. He is a die hard Republican, who thinks Bush Sr. was the best thing since sliced bread.

After our discussions I asked his son if he was like that all the time. He told me he’s upset because everything you’ve told him is shaking all of his beliefs. He doesn’t usually listen to people with differing opinions.

We ended up on a good note. He actually said he would take a look at a few links I sent him. He said “Who knows, you could be right”. I think he might come around.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Well, ladies and gents

from the sound of the morning news

Cabal has their tail between their legs and their lips are trembling!

Here they waterboard, sleep deprive and freeze the sheeple, low life’s

but what if we should decide to use the same tactics on them?

They taught us how to do it

and now they are the most prime betrayers of all

and we are about to find out.

They need us to determine their behaviors wrong.

Interesting times.

BUllshit about world terrorism being started

of course there will be films made, probably already stockpiles of films are made

but the point is we decide the world has been abused by the cabal

and we expose them to the world.

What to do?

Keep them VERY healthy

keep them in solitary forever

make them give up secrets for food, toilet paper and blankets

no tv

no communication

Just a room with themselves and God.

a dark room? Maybe.

intruth
intruth

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 9:50 am

Thanks Graham….

intruth
intruth

Comment by mkddachs on December 10, 2014 @ 2:19 pm

Melissa, great stuff on Martin Armstrong. I knew he was in prison but not the background. I’m going to check out those links.

intruth
intruth

Good news!
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Ukraine Invites Russian “Military Specialists” In Donetsk To Promote “Conflict De-escalation”

12/10/2014

If the US has become the undisputed world leader in sending non-lethal “military advisors” to the middle east, then Russia is learning fast, and as Interfax just reported, the head of the Russian Armed Forces chief of staff Gerasimov just confirmed that Russian “military specialists” are now working in the Donetsk region, although not to support the separatist army, but to promote “conflict de-escalation.” One just has to admire politically correct war talk. But the punchline, from both Interfax and Bloomberg which also just reported this news, is that Russia is doing so at the “request of Ukraine’s head of general staff.” In other words, Ukraine actually invited the Russians.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-10/ukraine-invites-russian-military-specialists-donetsk-promote-conflict-de-escalation

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Ukraine Invites Russian “Military Specialists” In Donetsk To Promote “Conflict De-escalation”

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I wonder if the USA has such a thing as a “Conflict De-escalation” expert?

lmsk
lmsk

Does anyone know about a man Dave Schmidt -The Sedona Connection? He is in Hong Kong claiming that a dragon family is going to be releasing funds to people that want to help humanity.

intruth
intruth

THE CHURCH – THE MILITARY – THE MOB – THE CORPORATE GOVERNMENTS – FOUR DIFFERENT WORDS – FOUR DIFFERENT HEADS FOR THE SAME ONE EVIL BEAST, by Bradley Loves

Excerpt:
I hope many of you took the time to watch the 7 hour long video that was done by Kay Griggs which can be found here –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7odSIZ9Tg

Because if you did NOT do your homework, then much of what I say will not make sense here!

If you did NOT do your homework, however, you are in luck – I will only be talking about the first hour and a half of her video today! (which gives you plenty of time to go back and watch the whole thing)

In the first hour (or so) of this important video, she talks about how Army Intelligence is basically working DIRECTLY with the MOB! She describes how her husband Colonel George Griggs, as a very well connected and powerful Marine Colonel, was part of a very large group of military men who were heavily into assassinations, drug running, arms and weapons sales, and the cultivating of hundreds of secret groups (usually boys) that went around the world picking fights and starting wars in order to further the sales of guns and weapons to both sides. (She names dozens and dozens of names here – all of which can be cross-referenced).

In the first hour, she describes the “sexual deviancy” of this group of men, most of whom are/were homosexuals and “seemed” to have been answerable to no one. She talked about the Generals – the Politicians – and the powerful players who were all working towards this goal of deception and depravity as if it was “just the way things were” – and that as a military wife, she was told that she just needed to grow up!
She described them as: FREEMASONS – but also very connected to the Military.

She ALSO talked about a certain “special group” that was very well connected to this larger group that was located in COLORADO!

It was an “experimental group” that was being run out of Army Intelligence and Montauk (MK-ULTRA) that dealt specifically with ADULT and CHILD SEX! (Where have we seen this before? See my last Article)

At about 1 hour into the video she very briefly mentions how “that group” was being overseen by the ISRAELIS – And that it was also being over seen by psychologists at both Harvard and Yale! The Jon Benet Ramsey Murder was also briefly mentioned as well.

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/12/09/the-church-the-military-the-mob-the-corporate-governments-four-different-words-four-different-heads-for-the-same-one-evil-beast-by-bradley-loves/

intruth
intruth

Here’s Why $100,000/oz Silver is a Conservative Estimate
Bix Weir

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/998.cfm?awt_l=G5a_6&awt_m=3gij9P5O4VbAO5B

wiley
wiley

Google Andy Perot Project Superman.

gillfinn
gillfinn

Does anyone know about a man Dave Schmidt -The Sedona Connection? He is in Hong Kong claiming that a dragon family is going to be releasing funds to people that want to help humanity.
Comment by lmsk on December 10, 2014 @ 10:19 pm
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DS promotes his seminars, he’s in Hong Kong as a tourist, I’ve seen his vids on FB before, nothing against him, seems like a nice guy, but supposedly he has the ear of one of the families over there.
He’s attempting to setup ‘groups’ in this country funded by the families to promote rebuild projects from within.

Sounds worthy in theory, but if they just begin throwing money at people while this criminal system is still in place it will perpetuate what we’re trying to leave/eliminate. It’s still in the vein of the ‘savior’ mentality, someone, or something (money) will save me from all my ills. When did the last lotto turn Joe Citizen into a world beater?

Peeps need to understand where the shackles came from and the ones that don’t see them are doomed to leave this realm, come back and serve another ‘sentence’, until they can ‘see’ and free themselves on their own, from the ‘spell’. That’s why we’re here, to learn of our collective incarceration and to free ourselves as individuals. Paper certainly won’t do it, money/documents/corporations/fiction ‘spell’ dead men walking.

patricia
patricia

Another ‘pot, kettle, black’ story! Gee, wonder why NATO didn’t set up the same ‘interim spearhead’ while the US was attacking and stealing gold, oil, and assets around the world? NATO = NO-NEWS AND TOTAL OBFUSCATION

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/12/01/NATO-announces-deterrent-force-to-contain-Russia/1851417450877/

NATO will have an “interim spearhead ” force in place by early 2015 to deter what its new Secretary General called Russia’s “aggressive behavior.”

Speaking at a press conference prior to a meeting of NATO foreign ministers in Brussels this week, Secretary General Jens Stollenberg said Russia continues to violate international law in providing pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine with goods and weapons. By 2016, he added, NATO will have a fully-equipped “spearhead” in place which could be deployed, to Baltic states as an example, to “deter and defend” in a crisis

patricia
patricia

Stephen Hawking warns artificial intelligence could end mankind

Excerpt:

Prof Hawking says the primitive forms of artificial intelligence developed so far have already proved very useful, but he fears the consequences of creating something that can match or surpass humans.

“It would take off on its own, and re-design itself at an ever increasing rate,” he said.

“Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn’t compete, and would be superseded.”

http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/stephen-hawking-warns-artificial-intelligence-could-end-mankind/

intruth
intruth

Does anyone know about a man Dave Schmidt -The Sedona Connection? He is in Hong Kong claiming that a dragon family is going to be releasing funds to people that want to help humanity.
Comment by lmsk on December 10, 2014 @ 10:19 pm
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He does a lot of youtube videos. I have no idea of his credibility. Those are pretty big claims.

patricia
patricia

Total derivatives decline by 3% in Q2 to only $691 trillion!. New law will make taxpayers liable for losses

Excerpt:

Who says macroprudential regulation doesn’t work: according to the BIS, notional amounts of outstanding OTC derivatives contracts fell by 3% to “only” $691 trillion at end-June 2014. This is also roughly equal to the total derivative notional outstanding just before the Lehman collapse, when global central banks volunteered taxpayers to pump a few trillion in capital to meet global variation margin calls. Clearly the system, in the immortal words of Jim Cramer, is “fine.”

http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/total-derivatives-decline-by-3-in-q2-to-only-691-trillion-new-law-will-make-taxpayers-liable-for-losses/

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 10:29 pm

Oh come on, that’s porn if I’ve ever seen porn.
When the price gets too high, there’ll be substitution.
Whatever they want to use the silver for is likely to have alternative metals that can be used, even gold.

patricia
patricia

Admission of Chemtrails and other things to ponder?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30229874

Imagine the trouble that would ensue if China resorted to desperate measures to cool its climate but the result was that the Indian Monsoon suddenly failed.

Or that India tried to head off a rise in temperatures only to find that Pakistan suffered from massive flooding.

Or that the United States took drastic action to fight global warming and then saw that great tracts of Africa were suddenly left without any rain.

These are some of the nightmare scenarios conjured up by the latest thinking on what might go wrong if we try to intervene in our climate through what is known as geo-engineering.

Ideas range from trying to block the Sun’s rays with sulphur particles in the upper atmosphere to making the seas and deserts more reflective to forests of artificial trees soaking up carbon dioxide -concepts that seem so outlandish that many refuse to take them seriously.

Back in early 2009, at a climate science conference in Denmark, I recall the almost sheepish way with which researchers scheduled a session on the subject.

The event’s organiser, an American professor, told me that “no one in their right mind would want to think about these ideas but we may find that we have to”.

intruth
intruth

Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 11:10 pm

NATO will be nothing after Germany and then France leave it. I doubt those countries that are left want to do the ‘heavy lifting’.

intruth
intruth

Comment by anonymous on December 10, 2014 @ 11:25 pm

Tell it to Bix Weir. I just posted it.

wolfintimber

Some groovy american military whitehats do some whitemagic in the middle east…..

Gordon Duff,the keynote speaker in damascus of recent……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2_qmlKFVU&list=UUaMH8-gD-ZYyC93vY6GlnCQ

Gordon Duff for president……Ya Baby…..

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

I am not sure why some of my posts are not making it. Ben, this really bothers me.

NAI2010

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhxZxL56B00
USA in deep kimchee

lmsk
lmsk

Does anyone know about a man Dave Schmidt -The Sedona Connection? He is in Hong Kong claiming that a dragon family is going to be releasing funds to people that want to help humanity.
Comment by lmsk on December 10, 2014 @ 10:19 pm

Thanks for those that gave some feedback on this man. It seems strange to me what he is claiming…

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by cornpoppin on December 10, 2014 @ 6:37 pm

Any program that hinders you shutting your system down, needs to be removed immediately. I would also suggest a complete malware and virus scan of your system, and a good registry cleaning.

wiley
wiley
intruth
intruth

Here We Go Again – the Effective Repeal of Dodd-Frank As Xmas Gift to Bankers?

Posted on December 9, 2014 by Martin Armstrong

The high-flying banks are at it again. There has been lobbying going on to sneak a clause in the continuing resolution to fund the government over the holidays for the December 11th deadline. The provision they are trying to sneak in would allow the banks to trade derivatives through subsidiaries that are federally insured by the FDIC. In other words, they are circumventing the very reforms of the 2007-2009 crash.

This is not yet confirmed. The bill was held up and the final language was being submitted at midnight last night. This is how they operate so everyone is asleep and the real dirty shit is stuffed in bills in the middle of the night. This tactic is outright fraud upon the nation and the world. We seriously need political reform or there will be no future.

This is how the lame-duck Congress always functions – bribe time on steroids. The manipulating banks are trying to sneak this into a bill to keep the government funded for Christmas and they know they will get the votes because nobody will read the fine print on Capitol Hill. They are trying to now effectively repeal the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Pub.L. 111–203, H.R. 4173) before the new Congress comes in. These lame-duck sessions are highly dangerous and have done far more long-term damage to the nation than any other session. This is Congress on sale to the highest bidder.

When we get the real real final language, we will confirm everyone what they have pulled off this time if it survives.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/09/here-we-go-again-the-effective-repeal-of-dodd-frank-as-xmas-gift-to-bankers/

patricia
patricia

“Seems this cafe may have been infiltrated too, it would have been naieve to have thought otherwise. Do I have any support here or would members prefer it if I kept my feelings and ideas to myself?”

Roy,

My 2 cents worth-

Post away! Just don’t expect other café members to agree with you. The group here has, for the most part, been seeking a very long time and have their own conclusions and ideas that they believe. Just put it out there without trying to force it down anyone’s throat or getting upset if they don’t agree with you and you’ll do fine here.

This is not a site to practice “if you piss me off, I’ll take my toys and go home”. That attitude is a waste of time and most café members will gladly let you do just that. imho.

clee
clee

RE: CIA’s brutal interrogation tactics news

So confused right now- I tuned into CNN just to see the garbage that they are putting out now.

So if CNN (MSM) is own by the elite, and the evil Bush/Cheney group are ALSO part are the same group. Then why is this even hitting MSN? The different cabal fractions at a high level must be in a state of civil war. It is as if they are turning on their own kind.

patricia
patricia

Comment by anonymous on December 10, 2014 @ 11:25 pm

Tell it to Bix Weir. I just posted it.

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 11:28 pm

Good one! People just love to shoot the messenger, don’t they? 🙂

patricia
patricia

Comment by clee on December 10, 2014 @ 11:53 pm

Interesting commentary and questions.

Or, are THEY just making us THINK they are turning on their own? Hmmm

They’ve had centuries to perfect the art of deception.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“Some groovy american military whitehats do some whitemagic in the middle east…..
Gordon Duff,the keynote speaker in damascus of recent……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2_qmlKFVU&list=UUaMH8-gD-ZYyC93vY6GlnCQ
Gordon Duff for president……Ya Baby…..”

Comment by wolfintimber on December 10, 2014 @ 11:37 pm

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wolfintimber, thanks for posting that clip. Gordon has some really big cajones….. he is definitely putting himself in grave danger by revealing the ugly underbelly as he does.

the traitor mccain must be jumping around like the cartoon tasmanian devil. What a scumbag he is.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by gillfinn on December 10, 2014 @ 11:06 pm

Some very good points there gill.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Here”s a bit more to go with what bro wolf posted earlier re. Goedon Duff et al. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/10/israeli-control-of-congress-cited-in-terrorism-keynote/

Tead the comments too.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

darn Ipad. sorry about typos.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 11:10 pm

I’m having a hard time buying into what NATO is trying to sell in this. For one thing, where are all the funds going to come from to pay for this? Am I wrong in the belief that when most countries in world are having big problems just being able to pay the bills, these funds will just suddenly appear in NATO’s budget? No, I’m beginning to think that hot air is all they have to offer in this, trying to make themselves look big, kind of like the guy behind the Wizard of Oz curtain.

intruth
intruth

http://losethename.com/

Lots of good stuff here..

intruth
intruth

For one thing, where are all the funds going to come from to pay for this?
Comment by marhuff55 on December 11, 2014 @ 12:21 am
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The printing presses are running in Europe and the USA. There is nothing else. I agree with you. I think this is a big posturing move.

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn

Does anyone know about a man Dave Schmidt -The Sedona Connection? He is in Hong Kong claiming that a dragon family is going to be releasing funds to people that want to help humanity.
Comment by lmsk on December 10, 2014 @ 10:19 pm

He talks like a nice guy. But won’t rely on him for good intel. Zap/Poof, Montague Keen, Sheldan Nidle, i can’t verify what they talk about.

intruth
intruth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JXcaocovRD8

Martin Armstrong – no charges?

This vid says he cheated investors out of $700 million in a ponzi scheme.

Which is it? I know there is disinfo everywhere.

martha
martha

Our future looks brighter than our history…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrY9eHkXTa4&feature=share

intruth
intruth

Martin Armstrong – Wikipedia

Criminal conviction[edit]
On September 29, 1999, Armstrong was indicted in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York for fraud by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, for having conspired with employees of Republic New York involving Japanese investors. Republic New York pleaded guilty to fraud in federal court on December 17, 2001 and agreed upon a restitution order on January 9, 2002 of $606 million.[6] Armstrong represented himself and was excluded from some proceedings, leading the Associated Press to question whether Armstrong could get a fair trial.[7]

The government charged Armstrong with civil contempt and he remained in prison over 7 years for failure to surrender various assets that may have been purchased with money from the investment fund at the center of the litigation.[1][8] According to the New York Times, “Over the years, Judge Owen would revisit the contempt order every 18 months, guided by the federal statute. He repeatedly said that Mr. Armstrong was motivated by greed and was awaiting his release from jail to retrieve the $15 million that the government said was missing. According to lawyers who worked on the case in the early days, the financier’s headstrong manner irritated Judge Owen almost immediately.”[9] On August 17, 2006, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy.[2][10] He was sentenced on April 10, 2007, to five years in prison.[1] Armstrong’s daughter, Victoria, paid her father visits in prison most Wednesdays.[9] He was released from prison on September 2, 2011.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 12:31 am

Well, what we are seeing now, is that they have printed themselves into a corner that they will never be able to get out of, and it’s showing in all of the hot air some of these governments are spewing. They want the world to believe that they still have the big power(they still believe that money is power), when they really don’t(over sized debt is not power, it’s insanity). People are fed up with the over blown military budgets, when those budgets consume well over fifty percent of the money that should go back into helping the everyday citizens, and not the military industrial complex.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Intruth, this is not aimed at you (or what you posted), or anyone, it is just info:

I have read many times, including on VT that wikipedia is controlled by mossad. So it should be considered when reading much of anything political or financial there…

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,,

What about those that TRIED to sound the alarm on the torture program….a long time ago?

NAI2010
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HW0d1NO9Y4
SILENCED

martha
martha

Comment by clee on December 10, 2014 @ 11:53 pm

One hypothesis as to why MSM is turning on their own is

Maybe they don’t have a choice. Whoever holds the note has the power.

Another hypothesis and it could be both..

When the money runs out for bribery whistle blowers will be coming out of the wood work. I have never bought that today’s journalists are lazy and that is why we don’t get the news. If this were true, why would so many journalists be killed…since the 2000 coup by g bush and the supreme court. when the vote was stopped and it was found later that Al Gore won.

So, they are all corporate/mafia owned..there are still degrees of evil.Obama , with all his failings, did stop the torture. Don’t think hillary clinton, mitt romney or john mccain would have.

intruth
intruth

Comment by ukdenadreamer on December 11, 2014 @ 12:49 am

Good point Dena. It is entirely possible that gov’t locked Armstrong up with no charges. They do whatever they want. Disinfo is everywhere.

Anyway, Armstrong has some interesting things to say and they don’t line up with a lot of what we post here. It is good to take what he says into consideration.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by martha on December 11, 2014 @ 12:57 am
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Martha, your post gave me pause to think deeply, and agree, with what you said. Thanks.

martha
martha

Comment by intruth on December 10, 2014 @ 10:26 pm

Thanks for the Kay Griggs run down. Have seen one of her videos and it is tough to watch. Am glad that the real perpetrators of crimes against humanity are being named. ..it is out there. That is the way WE clean up the mess WE are in.

(1) Mafia..military arm of the catholic church

(2) freemasons …who knows what they are up to but it ain’t good ..speaking from experience here with my family.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 1:01 am
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Intruth, these are not only perilous times but also wonderful watching the disintegration of all the lies. It is very difficult to really know who to trust and who not to. I may like someone in the public light today and tomorrow see them in a different light altogether.

This cafe is our oasis away from Bedlam. We can all share what we know, or think we know, and then the other folks here will either add to the info or pull the covers on it.

I use Wikipedia but with the knowing that not everything there is true.

xxxx

nai2010
nai2010

Dear Cafe’,

The comments posted on Bill Moyer’s site are quite telling. People are calling for the prosecution of the Bush administration, the CIA and everybody involved in the torture. They are saying that this is the only means of restoring American honor and credibility to the world.

NAI2010
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/10/survivors-of-ciatorturerenditionspeakout.html

More coverage

wolfintimber

Comment by ukdenadreamer on December 11, 2014 @ 12:00 am

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Coooool Dena…..You fine folks of the USA,of all colours and cultures,are definitely not known for a shortage of courage…..

Truth and Light is the True Might…..

Namaste…..

mkddachs

W A Mozart – Sinfonia Concertante KV 364 – Heifetz – Primrose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn1gMEoJvrA

intruth
intruth

The Critical Post – Chicago’s Interview With “Charlie” NOC About Wilcock-Keenan Fraud, Part One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD_6-TS5nuE

Just watching this now. Has anyone else listened to this whole thing?

valtony
valtony

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patricia
patricia

Just watching this now. Has anyone else listened to this whole thing?

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 2:04 am

Yes, I listened to the whole thing last night.

wmsrg
wmsrg

Intruth,
I started to watch but couldn’t stomach the clandestine
nature of the moderator. Just too sneaky imho. Every time
someone like Wilcock, Keenan, Fulford etc. tries to inform
us with positive imformation there’s some shill that comes
along to try and knock them down. Sorry, I’m just not buying it any more.

clee
clee

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 2:04 am

I started to listen, … never heard of the “ The Critical Post- Chicago”
The first 12 min was so boring. This guy moves so slow… Now at 14:56 and still no meat to the conversation.
Not impress with the first speaker. I don’t follow Keelan, But I have read enough of Wilcock and followed his complete series on G-TV and I think he is the real deal. Just a gut feeling. There will always be people out there to discredit anyone.

intruth
intruth

Comment by wmsrg on December 11, 2014 @ 2:38 am

The moderator is annoying for sure – not as bad as Albert Webre.

mkddachs

Complete Statewide Victory for Texas
November Election was a Huge GOP Victory

We will many times argue within our own party about policy priorities, leadership, and reaching strategic goals. This election cycle proved that when our core principles as Republicans are in such stark contrast to the opposing core principles encompassed by Democrats, Republicans will rally together to have a complete victory in general elections. All of our statewide Republicans won by overwhelming margins, we gained a seat in the Texas Senate, we will have 98 Republicans serving in the Texas House starting in January, and we gained a Congressional seat in South Texas.

Our hard work as Republicans is paying off.

This year, through our Victory operations in tandem with local parties and the statewide campaigns, the Republican Party improved Republican turnout among all demographics. Over 1/3 of all Republican base voters cast a ballot in November as opposed to only 1/4 of all Democrat base voters.

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Reduce the Rose Bush Blocker rule in the Texas Senate to a 60% threshold, as utilized in the US Senate
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Second Amendment issues, including constitutional carry and eliminating so-called “gun-free zones”
Making statewide school choice a reality
No new taxes or unnecessary spending, property tax reduction for all homeowners and businesses, elimination of he business franchise tax or extending the deduction to $10 million, and the elimination of toll roads once paid
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Protect our constitutional freedoms

intruth
intruth

David P. Crayford Update – December 9, 2014

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2014/12/david-p-crayforrd-update-december-9-2014.html#more

Here’s another one to discern.

clee
clee

Intruth- Been thinking of you. Work has been crazy, I have a lot of holiday time coming up after Christmas. Sure would like to get together for coffee then…..So many questions to ask you!

intruth
intruth

I need a cliff notes version of anything from hereon in. I can’t retain this much stuff and it’s wasting my time.

From my point of view:

Keenan is out.
Wilcock is genuine. Maybe he was led astray with some of the stuff in Financial Tyranny. That is their MO to discredit people in the future.
Fulford – seems to have good intel now, but he’s printed some real crap over the years since I’ve been here.

intruth
intruth

Comment by clee on December 11, 2014 @ 3:07 am

Just e-mail be – maybe over your Xmas vacation would be good if the roads cooperate.

intruth
intruth

The Critical Post – Chicago’s Interview With “Charlie” NOC About Wilcock-Keenan Fraud, Part One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD_6-TS5nuE
Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 2:04 am
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Got through 1:03:00. Didn’t hear Wilcock’s name as yet.

My overall takeaway is that there are a bizillion gov’t operatives out there. The Govt watches our every move – especially if you are successful or have alot of $. Nothing is as it appears. What else is new?

patricia
patricia

Below I have posted a link the THE MOST AMAZING bit of nature footage you’ll EVER see, I promise!

Many ask all the time “what can I do?” Humanity is in a fight for our very survival at this time. Will you be a Water Buffalo or a coward?

The lions and crocodiles, aka Cabal, prey on what they perceive to be the weak. Even if they are outnumbered, and they are hugely outnumbered with humanity vs a few slimy cabal, they depend on us being their ‘food’ and not realizing the power of our numbers. We have let them ‘feed’ on us for so long, we have become complacent and have stopped protecting our young.

Protect humanity and the now and future young!

I say “BE A WATER BUFFALO!!!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

8 minutes-watch to the end. You’ll be glad you did!

patricia
patricia

“We will many times argue within our own party about policy priorities, leadership, and reaching strategic goals. This election cycle proved that when our core principles as Republicans are in such stark contrast to the opposing core principles encompassed by Democrats, Republicans will rally together to have a complete victory in general elections. All of our statewide Republicans won by overwhelming margins, we gained a seat in the Texas Senate, we will have 98 Republicans serving in the Texas House starting in January, and we gained a Congressional seat in South Texas.”

Rah, rah. Just more us/them paradigm crap. Boring!

I REPEAT~THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY AND WE’RE PAYING FOR THE PARTY FAVORS AND FOOD!!!

food2
food2

Gordon Duff,the keynote speaker in damascus of recent……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE2_qmlKFVU&list=UUaMH8-gD-ZYyC93vY6GlnCQ

A video worth watching! That man was very aware of putting his life on the line as he spoke. What great courage and love for his country he exuded!

Thank you wolfintimber (11:37am)!!

Pam

intruth
intruth

Comment by patricia on December 11, 2014 @ 3:25 am

Viewed it. Don’t like seeing a baby animal getting attacked even it it lived and walked away eventually. That’s just me.

food2
food2

The reasoning behind making the torture report available; that is a question we are discussing at home. My hubby strongly feels that it is to provoke more unrest and mayhem abroad so the US Inc has reason to war further. Things are just getting too peaceful, huh?

I have a feeling that it will come back to bite them because the world of mankind is savvy to their tricks. Instead of making war rumblings against America, those responsible will get singled out for justice.

John McCain supposedly was against the torture? That’s what MSM is saying. I do not believe that. There must be a video out there that has that puke standing up for torture. When the time is ripe for him, he will get what he has done to others.

Pam

jimbo
jimbo

The reasoning behind making the torture report available; that is a question we are discussing at home. My hubby strongly feels that it is to provoke more unrest and mayhem abroad so the US Inc has reason to war further. Things are just getting too peaceful, huh?

Comment by food2 on December 11, 2014 @ 3:44 am
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Your hubby makes a good point, Pam. Since TPTW are having such a hard time starting a war in the US, maybe they figure that they can enrage SOMEBODY outside to attack for real, and then have a reason for retaliation.

intruth
intruth

Comment by food2 on December 11, 2014 @ 3:34 am

Gordon Duff – excellent!

blair
blair

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 2:46 am

Have to jump in here and stick up for Alfred…he is a friend and associate of mine. I too have a bit of difficulty trying to get through his interviews, you have to realize he ad-libs (sp?) all his stuff, on an ancient I-Phone…with no production budget at all. I assure you, he is a completely different person when your are face to face…very little of his own opinions and constant re-clarification so as not to confuse what the interviewee is saying. The information this guy has in his head is amazing…I find him quite brilliant, and his background is fascinating, like so many of the people discussed here…

intruth
intruth

Comment by blair on December 11, 2014 @ 4:00 am

My only criticism of Alfred is his interview style. He is a wealth of info and brings us topics no one else covers. I do appreciate his contribution and usually manage to suffer through his interviews.
His website is chock-ful of good stuff too.

intruth
intruth

How stupid is it that the ‘royals’ are visiting NYC. Who cares. As Kevin Annett says, it’s meant to be a distraction. Go home idiots. Oh, but drop some $ first and go shopping.

intruth
intruth

It is very important the Gordon Duff is getting the message out to the international community that the USG is controlled by Israel and a major crime syndicate controls the world. He is educating the world.

blair
blair

Comment by food2 on December 11, 2014 @ 3:44 am

“There must be a video out there that has that puke standing up for torture. When the time is ripe for him, he will get what he has done to others.”

Hey Pam…I sure second that one

aneeson
aneeson

How about the other baby killing, shit eating brigade who have infiltrated it?
If anyone can present evidence that the opposite of what I say is true then I am all ears.
Roy x
Citizen of the Planet Earth (None cult or secret society member. Has no pacts written or otherwise with Satan)
Comment by roytheboy on December 10, 2014 @ 5:28 pm

Hi Roy,

How about we ban all USA police also – after all some of them kill innocent black people so as a consequence of your statement regarding masons, this whole group /organisation (the Police) should also be banned because of a few ‘rogue’ individuals. And don’t tell me that that group too has not been infiltrated!

Let’s have some reason here for God’s sake. We know that you don’t like masons but if we include all groups that each one of us had an aversion to, then there would be no one left to be part of ‘our’ club.

Namaste,
Alan.

intruth
intruth

Jim Stone

Dec 10 2014

Shocking negligence at Sellafield Nuclear Waste site

If you want to see what nuclear negligence looks like, it can be found at Sellafield nuclear waste dump in Britain. The site was built in the 1940s, filled with nuclear waste from the 1950’s and 60’s and subsequently abandoned in the early 70’s. And I mean it was abandoned. While fully loaded.
Sellafield is a huge waste storage site that could create a disaster that would make Fukushima blush. Sellafield contains the combined waste from many different nuclear reactors, nuclear bomb programs, and the waste was stored at theoretical minimum (for temporary storage) safety standards and was subsequently completely abandoned and allowed to fall to rot.

Containment areas are open to the sky to such an extent that seagulls enter and swim on the fuel pools. Most if not all of the water control gates are rusted in place and only luck has prevented a disaster, since most if not all water control is completely inoperable.

Many of the storage pools have cracked concrete, and from the looks of things have been kept full only because rainwater got in to fill them. The fuel, which was only supposed to be at Sellafield for at most five years (and subsequently sat for 45 years) has, as a result of sitting for far too long degraded badly and lined the bottoms of the fuel pools with radioactive dust that will burn if it is exposed to air.

There are currently problems with restoration because the fuel storage areas are too radioactive for workers to enter. These photographs are not credited, no one knows how they got taken or who did it.

If you want to see what nuclear negligence looks like, just take a look at these pictures:

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com
.

blair
blair

Am I mistaken…or where there not photos of little Johnny walking the streets, during a middle east visit… with the first ISIS criminals when they were invented? And Booze Allen is in their like a dirty shirt as usual…

aneeson
aneeson

This is not a site to practice “if you piss me off, I’ll take my toys and go home”. That attitude is a waste of time and most café members will gladly let you do just that. imho.
Comment by patricia on December 10, 2014 @ 11:52 pm

Hi Patricia,

Thanks for that sentiment – I highly agree.

I don’t mind opinion – I just get upset with the vehemence of some posters to others that they don’t approve of. We are all citizens of mother Gaia and should be seen as sisters and brothers treading an extremely difficult path.

Namaste,
Alan.

intruth
intruth

John Pilger – The New Rulers of the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yqj0OG6cmw

patricia
patricia

Viewed it. Don’t like seeing a baby animal getting attacked even it it lived and walked away eventually. That’s just me.

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 3:44 am

So, you weren’t even a little bit touched by the strength of the Water Buffalo to defend their own? That was my point in sharing.

blair
blair

Allen and Roy…Gents you need to get back to basics on this Freemason discussion. Look at the power structure and realize that the worst individuals, from all of these awful groups, are the ones that rise to the top, cops, judges,business leaders, etc, if they suck you in and get that picture of you with a goat, in most case’s your done for…where does Freemasonary fit in the pyramid of evil…well not right at the top for sure, but it transcends and includes good things in society as well as some of the good people and deeds they do…eg: driving the sick and ill to Dr’s etc.

But as we know, while the cream rises to the top…so does the black goo.

nai2010
nai2010
jimbo
jimbo

Allen and Roy…Gents you need to get back to basics on this Freemason discussion. Look at the power structure and realize that the worst individuals, from all of these awful groups, are the ones that rise to the top, cops, judges,business leaders, etc, if they suck you in and get that picture of you with a goat, in most case’s your done for…where does Freemasonary fit in the pyramid of evil…well not right at the top for sure, but it transcends and includes good things in society as well as some of the good people and deeds they do…eg: driving the sick and ill to Dr’s etc.

But as we know, while the cream rises to the top…so does the black goo.

Comment by blair on December 11, 2014 @ 4:38 am
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I think the point should be made here that ALL groupings of people, whether it’s a “secret society” (like the Masons or the Knights of Columbus), or a society with a more public face (like the US congress or the Catholic church), are susceptible to infiltration.

Trying to write in some sort of edict banning any one type of group over another is an invitation to a witch hunt, imo.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by blair on December 11, 2014 @ 4:00 am
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Thank you Blair for sharing your perspective on Alfred Webre. He is on my hero list. The guy has a heart that showers love non-stop, and his intellect is light years beyond most folks…… I have done a lot of research on him and he is a genius and has done so much for all sentient beings. His resume is staggering.

I love his interviews. At times he does slow down but that is the way of a genius—-so much to say that it can’t come out quick enough.

xxxx

martha
martha

Releasing the torture report is a wonderful thing no matter the reason. It will be harder to get the EU to line up with US on Russian sanctions. WE will be increasingly seen as a rogue state which is truth.

We are living in an age of truth. It is a nice vehicle for more truth to come out. I have recently started watching the View..Rosie O’Donnell got fired when she tried to have a scientist to explain 9/11 and how it had to be an inside job.

Whoopie Goldberg is a very controlling moderator. She didn’t know how she felt about torture..whether it is good or bad. The republican operative on the show said only 3 people were tortured. Rosie said her piece but with difficulty. Earlier in the week , Whoopie got very worked up about all the talk of Bill Cosby..she likes him.

So, in a convoluted way, a lot of truth came out ..although painful to watch. I apologize for mentioning this show on this forum.

martha
martha

It’s heating up. Sen. Udall is angry about the continued cover up and people who were in on the planning of torture to still have govt. jobs. ….he has already lost a brother in an odd hiking accident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/mark-udall-cia-lying_n_6302894.html

mkddachs

I REPEAT~THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY AND WE’RE PAYING FOR THE PARTY FAVORS AND FOOD!!!
Comment by patricia on December 11, 2014 @ 3:31 am
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this is what I RECEIVED because I was the Election judge for my area – this just shows what is happening in TX with the party’s. It is interesting to see how the party’s seesaw from one to the other to fool the people into believing they are different. You mistook what I put it up for.

People think they have no choice but to give the mandate to the opposite party unless they vote in Independents and libertarians and that happened more in the Republican party this time. Not on high levels but on the grass roots level. This was not mentioned.

There is a big fight going on in the Repub. party over the direction and some of the mandates where definitely there due to the more Libertarian view points. If they don’t put some of that in there then a bigger fight will in sew..and they will loose alot of young people from the party. They can’t afford that.

So here are people that are working within the party to change the direction and I support that view point as well.

mkddachs

I just get upset with the vehemence of some posters to others that they don’t approve of.allen
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yes patricia please remember this when someone puts up the political stuff you don’t agree with. You don’t have to agree with it at all – you just have to be civil.

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News December 10th, 2014

How to Rewire Your Brain for Greater Intelligence, Happiness and Peace

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2014/12/10/how-to-rewire-your-brain-for-greater-intelligence-happiness-and-peace/

Your brain is an incredible, highly adaptable ‘machine’ that can and does change with you as you evolve and grow.

+ Be Well +

Truth

patricia
patricia

yes patricia please remember this when someone puts up the political stuff you don’t agree with. You don’t have to agree with it at all – you just have to be civil.

Comment by mkddachs on December 11, 2014 @ 5:10 am

I am always civil Melissa. All the power is with the LISTENER. We each have our own set of ‘groomed ears’ that we wear, eh?

anonymous
anonymous
anonymous
anonymous

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-10/why-us-treasury-quietly-ordering-surival-kits-us-bankers

Why Is The US Treasury Quietly Ordering “Surival Kits” For US Bankers?

The Department of Treasury is seeking to order survival kits for all of its employees who oversee the federal banking system

The government is willing to spend up to $200,000 on the kits

Survival kits will be delivered to every major bank in the United States including Bank of America, American Express Bank, BMO Financial Corp., Capitol One Financial Corporation, Citigroup, Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Company, and Wells Fargo.

anonymous
anonymous
anonymous
anonymous
marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by patricia on December 11, 2014 @ 3:31 am

Lol, doesn’t that remind you of when you threw a pot luck party and invited 10-15 people? Your standing talking to one of your guests, and that’s when you notice four strangers walking through you door empty handed. They start scarfing down the food, and guzzling the drinks without one word being exchanged with anyone else the whole time, and when they are finished raiding the goodies, they walk out the door as though it’s just another day.

deester
deester

Sandy Hoax faker parents file wrongful death claims.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-sandy-hook-shooting-parents-may-sue-p-20141208-story.html

Excerpt: Another family of a child killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School filed a notice in probate court Tuesday that it plans to make a wrongful death claim.

The family of James Mattioli was the latest to open an estate, bringing to 11 the number of families of children killed at the Newtown school in 2012 that have filed documents this week. Filing the forms that open estates in the children’s names, with their parents as the administrators, is a necessary legal step before a lawsuit can be filed.

Eight estates that were opened Monday are in the names of Benjamin Wheeler, Jessica Rekos, Jack Pinto, Grace McDonnell, Charlotte Bacon, Daniel Barden, Ana Marquez-Greene and Arielle Richman, according to probate court records.

Last week, the parents of Dylan Hockley were approved as administrators. The 10th will be the estate of Jesse Lewis, which previously had been filed and closed but is in the process of being reopened, probate officials said.

More on site.

deester
deester

Newtown is spending $50 Million on a new school, even though enrolments are declining and they are closing another school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cplnDOxu_h4&feature=youtu.be

marhuff55
marhuff55

I see what they are doing by putting the report out, as being a two fold ploy. One being, they can say, “hey, look at how transparent we are, just what you asked for”, and second, at the same time, if it brings about a lot of civil unrest, they can use that as a way of placing the citizens under a “total” police state, much worse than what we are seeing now.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

I painted my kitchen yesterday and today and took apart a leaking bathroom faucet (parts won’t be in until Friday+). My point being: I have had plenty of time to listen to internet radio…Veterans Today to be specific.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvwSuURG06U
“Veterans Today Radio (12-8-14) Mike Harris, Gordon Duff – VT’s Trip to Syria”
“Published on Dec 9, 2014

The incredible story of the VT trip to Syria and Lebanon. The bad guys attempted to setup the VT team by putting a kilo of heroin where they were staying. Mike Harris, found the drugs and they got out of there fast! They have it all on video and will upload shortly….”

ukdena again: I stopped painting several times and stopped the vid to replay whatever I had just heard. The vid is an hour and 40 minutes of non-stop crucial information.

Mike Harris used to be a die hard Republican—he actually ran for guv or something in AZ a while back. Luckily he came to. He now realizes that both political parties are shams bought and paid for by Sheldon Adelson, Bushes and other pathetic crime figures that are named over and over.

This is just a tad of what Duff and Harris shared: 3 of them, including Duff, had severe food poisoning shortly after they got to the middle east; there were plots to end the Veterans Today white hats ie a kilo of heroin was found in there room—they all immediately left hours ahead of schedule; the “stars” of the whole trip were the Syrian people. Many Syrian hu-mans spoke that they were so fearful that Amerika was going to do to them what they did to Iraq. We are currently in a world war…being run by the global crime bosses many of whom are american traitors, zionists and others from many countries. The whole purpose of isis is to take all of syria’s assets to pay for the failing banks etc. It goes on and on. It pulled a lot of loose strings together for me………

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Martin; My understanding is that THEY will not be able to pull off a “total” police state. China will step in and assist the resistance movement. What’s going now is to force us to get off our ass and remove these criminals with independent Citizens who are now prepared to seek THEM out for justice.

anonymous
anonymous

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/10/israeli-control-of-congress-cited-in-terrorism-keynote/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=jE2_qmlKFVU

Keynote Speech, Damascus Terror Conference

0:36
GD: Too many people have died for people to continue speaking in terms that are unclear and just not speaking the truth.
It’s time we simply said what we know, whether it’s classified information or not.
All of you have seen the results of what we’re saying.
What we’re saying will fit what has happened here and what facts you’ve been able to bring out…
Our hypothesis is based on solid information, solid research on the ground, using human signals intelligence from our extensive capabilities.
We don’t guess.
We know what we’re talking about here.
Their motivation is largely economic.
They’re a criminal organisation but they are part of a worldwide criminal organisation.
And they’re here in your territory, taking your things – your factories, your lives, your people – for the enrichment of a specific group of people who need to be held to account.
It’s almost as though it’s a police problem.
This is crime.
This terrorism you’re suffering is worldwide crime on a scale we have never seen before.
There has never been anything like this.

2:26
GD: I appreciate your statements and I recognise the truth and honesty of what you were saying but I do believe there are areas of misunderstanding how the United States works politically.
And this is a problem, a tremendous problem in the Middle East and one of the things that’s driven us here is it’s very difficult to understand what has happened as far as Israeli control of American politics and I will, as succinctly as possible, I will explain this to you.

3:33
GD: In 2005, the Supreme Court of the United States had a decision on a case called Citizens United.
The decision of the Supreme Court legalised unlimited corporate bribery.
This turned control of the Congress of the United States over to human traffickers, narcotics traffickers and in particular, the most powerful individual in the United States today is a gambling boss named Sheldon Adelson, an Israeli citizen who fled the US living in Macau.
Spent over one billion dollars in the last election and bought control of both Houses of Congress.
Now Senator John McCain, the father of al Nusra, the father of ISIS, will be running US legislative and military foreign policy.

5:42
GD: American generals like General McKennery (spelling!) and General Paul Vallely, specialists in psychological warfare, helped organise Daeesh.
Have travelled in and out of your country here, Syria, over and over, as had Senator John McCain.
Meeting with al Qaeda – an organisation created by the American, Saudi and Israeli defence forces and intelligence services.

6:19
GD: Only a week ago, the US Secretary of Defence Charles Hagel, Chuck Hagel, resigned.
Chuck Hagel was the individual that stopped the United States from bombing Syria over the false flag gas attacks near Aleppo.

6:49
GD: It was our organisation here, that supplied the intelligence that stopped those attacks.

7:07
GD: It’s our goal here, while we are here, to try to establish a method of communication that will allow Syria and other nations within the area to understand Israel’s control of the US, the control of the US by organised crime and how the US government is subservient to a worldwide criminal organisation.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

” . . . and when they are finished raiding the goodies, they walk out the door as though it’s just another day.” Martin

Yes! And that’s when you grab them by the neck and drag them into the kitchen to wash the dishes. They won’t come around again when it’s over, that’s for sure. 😉

patricia
patricia

If you want to see what nuclear negligence looks like, just take a look at these pictures.

Sorry, It just pains me to look at nuclear waste.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by ugmmichael on December 11, 2014 @ 7:20 am

“My understanding is that THEY will not be able to pull off a “total” police state.”

That’s a well known fact, beings they are broke, plus they don’t have the numbers(of people)to pull something like that off. Not when the percentages is something like 98% to 2%.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Did you forget the link patricia?

patricia
patricia

Comment by marhuff55 on December 11, 2014 @ 6:33 am

Martin,

Thank you. At least one person understood my point. One is better than none 🙂

patricia
patricia

Did you forget the link patricia?

Comment by marhuff55 on December 11, 2014 @ 8:13 am

No, I didn’t forget a link. It was a response back to Intruth’s statement about baby buffalo. Another time my point was completely missed, oh well 🙁

patricia
patricia

Sorry Martin,

I should have put it in quotes like this “If you want to see what nuclear negligence looks like, just take a look at these pictures.” and, a time stamp to the original statement. It was my attempt at satire.

marhuff55
marhuff55

I have no use for political parties what-so-ever.

patricia
patricia

I have no use for political parties what-so-ever.

Comment by marhuff55 on December 11, 2014 @ 8:19 am

“Party” is a club. And, like George Carlin said “you’re not in it”. But, we do get to pay for their good times, eh?

intruth
intruth

Why Is The US Treasury Quietly Ordering “Surival Kits” For US Bankers?
Comment by anonymous on December 11, 2014 @ 6:31 am
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OMG, like they can’t put their own kits together at their own expense.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Ahhh, ok, I didn’t put the two of those together. Sorry, I just got done working on a laptop that was brought in last week by a 23 year old, that thought I should give him one to use while his was down, at no cost. He came back today to pick his up, and got instantly pissed with the bill I charged him. His cooling fan was plugged with dust and cat hair, and had been that way for so long, it finally burnt his processor out because of no cooling air getting to it. So it cost him a new processor chip, heatsink and mother board, plus my time. Needless to say, I got a royal cussing for blatantly charging him for parts that was, in his mind, still good enough to use. Now I have a headache.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 8:40 am

Why pay when you have serfs willing to take the money out of other people’s pocket to buy you pressies? It is Christmas, right?

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by marhuff55 on December 11, 2014 @ 8:49 am

Marhuff, I suggest that the next time you give them an estimate for the customer might prefer to spend his money on a new machine (or even a second hand one). Especially when it’s costly.

For instance, when I take my car in to the garage, the owner will call me if they find something needs fixing and tells me the cost. He likes the work to be authorised first before doing anything.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on December 11, 2014 @ 8:40 am

“OMG, like they can’t put their own kits together at their own expense.”

Whaaaaat? You expect them to spend their own money and time doing something that the tax payer should rightfully be shouldering? How dare you to not want to help those poor, poor hardship cases, after all of the hate and abuse the citizens threw at them because of some small banking errors that were made over the last few years? *rolls eyes, then runs for the hills* 🙂

lucybean
lucybean

I REPEAT~THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY AND WE’RE PAYING FOR THE PARTY FAVORS AND FOOD!!!

Comment by patricia on December 11, 2014 @ 3:31 am

I love the way you’ve made this point!

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by anonymous on December 11, 2014 @ 8:57 am

I did, to his father. It was his dads computer he was borrowing. His dad and I are great friends, and he told me on the phone, to go ahead and fix it, and he would pay for it. The parts he got at my cost, and I only charged him half on the time. His son thought I should just do it all for free. I also just got off of the phone with his dad, about the boys attitude. He apologized to me, and told me he would take care of it. He wasn’t very happy with his boy.

patricia
patricia

Comment by anonymous on December 11, 2014 @ 8:57 am

Heh Martin,

We’ve all had bad days and now it seems you have a café member suggesting how you run your business. You seem like a smart guy so I can’t wait to see your reply. What a day 🙂

patricia
patricia

“and he told me on the phone, to go ahead and fix it, and he would pay for it.”

Good one! I didn’t have to wait long. It seems ‘daddy’ is a lot like the American people and Congress is the son-except-

We pay and they don’t fix ANYTHING 🙂

roytheboy
roytheboy