Chinese bid to take over the world fails despite support for Chinese development bank
A meeting last week between a representative of the Chinese Communist Government and of the White Dragon Family ended badly after the Chinese stated their goal was to take over control of the planet. They were told the Chinese account for at most a fifth of the world’s population so the best they could hope for was one fifth if world power.
The meeting took place April 4th, 2015 a day of great occult significance. As widely reported, on that day there was a blood moon lunar eclipse that coincided with the Jewish Pass Over holy day and the Christian Easter day of rebirth. This is all seen as a good omen for the West. For the Chinese, however,
[restrict paid=”true”] the fourth day of the fourth month means double death and is highly inauspicious. The Chinese representative was also unable or unwilling to visit the shrine to the Dragon God King of the White Waterfall (白瀧龍王神) where the meeting was supposed to take place. He seemed scared of it so, the meeting took place about 200 yards away from the shrine. This seems symbolic of how the Chinese push for world dominance fell short of its goal.
For sure, the Chinese have been on a roll and their big push in February and March of this year produced big results. The most significant was the agreement by major European powers and US allies to join China’s proposed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, despite US opposition. What some Chinese failed to understand is that supporting a Chinese infrastructure initiative is not the same as voting to become Chinese serfs.
China has become the world’s biggest economy and has made huge accomplishments in the past decades. They have lifted a record number of people out of poverty, poured an awful lot of cement, built great infrastructure around the world and produced vast quantities of cheap but high quality knickknacks.
The West, by contrast, has seen its economic base badly damaged because the highest levels of its government institutions were taken over by vicious and incompetent gangsters. The West also does feel a bit down-trodden by the recent shift in economic and industrial power to the East.
However, the gangsters are now being systematically purged from governmental control and as result, the West is about to experience a renaissance that will by far outdo the original.
Furthermore, a little bit of perspective is needed here to explain why the West cannot be written off. Let us talk about science and technology for example. We all know the Chinese invented gun-powder, the printing press and paper etc. but can you think of any world changing Chinese invention within the past 600 years? Did they invent the steam engine? The industrial revolution? Automobiles? Airplanes? Radios? Television? Computers?
Semiconductors? The internet? Even the LED lights they are now mass producing were invented by the Japanese. We hope soon to be awestruck by new Chinese inventions but they ain’t here yet.
Another thing the Chinese need to keep in mind before they start talking about world domination is how much they owe the West. The West provided them with technical knowledge, education, financial assistance and more to modernize their economy. They did this not just out of the profit motive but out of a sincere desire to see China modernize and become prosperous.
The West, for its part, needs to be eternally grateful to China for its help in purging our leadership of Khazarain (Hyksos) Satanists. The West also needs to be grateful for all the financial assistance the Chinese have provided.
Both East and West now need to look back at when the Chinese secret societies made a deal with the White Dragon Society and its allies to join the fight against the Satanists. The Chinese said they wanted to once again be the center of the world and were told this would happen only on the condition that they ended poverty and stopped environmental destruction.
The Chinese have done a lot against poverty, especially in China, but they are some of the world’s worst polluters and have a hideous environmental record. There is also a lot of poverty that still needs to be dealt with. The West can take pride in its efforts to stop environmental destruction but, they certainly take a back seat to the Chinese when it comes fighting poverty.
That is why East and West need to stop thinking in terms of who is in charge and instead form a 50/50 win/win relationship for the sake of the planet as a whole. This is what the proposed world federation is supposed to accomplish.
On that front, despite the Chinese over-reach, progress continues to be made towards reaching a final deal.
The Pentagon has proposed dividing the world into 9 regions instead of 7 because South America and Russia respectively want independence from North America and Europe. This is an issue that is open to debate and can be settled once the more crucial financial architecture is worked out.
On that front, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is visiting Japan, South Korea and Sinpapore this week. The US also deployed warplanes in Taiwan to coincide with this visit. The idea is to remind the Chinese that if it ever came to war the US still has an overwhelming military advantage. For example, the Americans have energy weapons that would allow them to hit China with micro-waves thus causing every head in China to burst like an egg would in a microwave oven. They also have the technology to neutralize Chinese nuclear weapons. Of course this technology would never be used but merely serves as a reminder the US military industrial complex is proposing an alliance with China, not subservience to China.
It is also worth noting the US military is clearly aligning itself with the Iranians as their preferred partner in the Middle East. During the negotiations on Iran’s nuclear program, the Pentagon released detailed intelligence about Israel’s nuclear program. The message was clear, the Pentagon views Israel and not Iran as the real rogue nuclear threat in the Middle East.
US Senator Robert Menendez, until recently head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was indicted on charges of accepting bribes because he was a key member of the Khazarian faction that wanted to start World War 3, according to Pentagon sources. Visible actions like this make the ongoing purge of the Khazarians impossible to deny.
There is a lot less visible stuff also going on. For example, there was a mysterious attack on a Rockefeller facility last week. At the link below you can see a Rockefeller General Electric plant burning after what could only have been some sort of military attack.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-03/caught-tape-raging-fire-kentucky-ge-plant
Also last week Turkey experienced a nation-wide power outage that was clearly part of the ongoing covert war against the last Khazarian strongholds. It is not clear though which side attacked which in that event though.
Otherwise, the proxy war between the Iran/Pentagon alliance and the Saudi/Israeli faction cooled down somewhat last week. That was because representatives of both the Saudi faction and the Iranians contacted the White Dragon Society and were told the long Sunni/Shia divide had to be ended once and for all. Doing so would release vast funds for both sides, they were told. The Saudis were also told they had to remove the misogynist and other globally unacceptable elements of the Wahhabi doctrine if they wished for their regime to survive.
In Europe meanwhile, the thing to watch for this week is the April 9th IMF payment date the Greeks are expected to miss. If they miss it and go back to the Drachma then the European financial house of cards will suffer a fatal blow as Italy follows Greece. The only people who have the money to help the Greeks pay their bills are the Chinese. That is one of the main reasons why the British, Germans, French, Italians etc. agreed to join the Chinese led AIIB.
The Chinese though, as noted above, are not the real solution either. For that reason, they will probably kick the Greek can down the road yet again as they wait for a final settlement of the financial war. That will depend on the Chinese and Japanese agreeing to a compromise on who will control the proposed economic planning agency. That is because the Pentagon, the Swiss, the Vatican, the British etc. have already agreed to create such an agency and it is only the Chinese/Japanese split now standing in the way. The WDS is doing its bit to help by removing Khazarians from power in Japan to make sure a genuine Japanese voice speaks for Japan. That would open the door to compromise. The WDS also suggests selecting somebody from Singapore as the first head of the agency. That is because of Singapore’s successful planned transition from being one of the poorest backwaters on earth to being one of the richest nations on earth in a very short time.
The solution to the financial crisis and the beginning of a new age also await the arrival of certain promised documents. [/restrict]
I WON’T COMMENT FURTHER ON THE CAPS ISSUE, AND THANKS, GILLFINN, I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU, MY MISTAKE. IN ANSWER TO THE TRUCKING WITH DIGIT DISBAILITY QUESTION, I’VE BEEN LICENSED SINCE MY EARLY TWENTIES, AND THE ENDS OF MY SAW-REMOVED FINGERS WERE SEWN BACK-ON BY AN AMAZING FISHING FLY-TYING ER SURGEON WHOSE NAME REALLY, TRULY WAS, “DOC SAVAGE” (I SHIT YOU NOT-HE SHOWED ME HIS DRIVER’S LICENSE), WHO JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON ROTATION IN ROSEBURG, OREGON THOSE MANY YEARS AGO. THE SCARS ARE THERE, AND THE NERVES KINDA WORK, UNLESS IT’S COLD. AS FOR DRIVING, IF YOU CAN FOG… Read more »
“Official” Laaast! 😉
Sorry for your losses, Belle.
JADE HELM 15 Explained…
David Wilcock The plan to take down the illuminati MUST WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C7TaptBEfo (beginning 1:05:00h)
Grendizer
—-Last! “Finally beat you Reb!!! Grinning”. Thanks.
BFC: Going to take a break off-line for a time friends. An aunt, who was like a mother to partner, passed today, from an accident on Saturday. Never regained consciousness and passed peaceful, gratefully. This year. Phew, 3 in a month, too much for all.
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Remember it’s all just Distraction, Distraction, and DISTRACTION!
Always do Protection, Protection, and PROTECTION!
Sounds like a condom commercial. Hahah!
LOVE and LIGHT to all, thanks for everything.
“Every little thing will be okay”, after all we have the answer, LOVE!
Shlainte!
as I re read my own post at 6:45 pm
I realize the word “create” doesn’t have the peace and harmony vibe I would expect it to have.
I wonder if I could change the world more easily if I could come up with a new word for “create”.
That very word my hinder our efforts.
Maybe one too many thanks for friends, didn’t realize it was there. Apologies.
Your humor inspires many of us to have fun.
You don’t wait for the storm to pass.
You dance in the rain.
You recognize synchronicity,
You are becoming “An evolved spirit in a human body”.
Take it easy on the rest of us still learning.
Thanks Caleb.
Thanks.
Comment by deester on April 14, 2015 @ 9:33 am
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As I finishes reading this post I realized it felt true.
another major false flag event disrupted.
Whenever we hear of people who have had psychological issues, we must realize they could have come across a shrink that works for the cabal.
I think they use hypnotic suggestion to create killers. Each time something like this happens we hear all of these interviews from friends and relatives saying this behavior is so out of character for my friend. It probably is.
Ben Patricia stopped participating because she suffered too many attacks from trolls. ——————————— I have a little bit of throw up in my throat for this Bridge for sale much? What a load? I’m certain the Pansy will be back though she tried to give me a black eye, serious! and has Ben calling me troll, ————————————————– when I suggested we all assert our own energy .Instead of her conduit ,….or as Mel said “we took away her job She went ballistic, and tried to shred me. ————————————————- Totally reminded me of that woman who freaked out on Lou? What… Read more »
Thank you for asking about Patricia.
pam
Ben responded to my email today, then posted that little blurb about posting on Tuesday. I had asked him if he was ok and asked about what happened to Patricia. Here’s what he said to me in the email: “Hi Mozart and sorry, I meant to put out a notice that the newsletter would be appearing on Tuesday because I am expecting to hear something interesting today and wanted to include that in the newsletter. Also, Patricia stopped participating because she suffered too many attacks from trolls. However, I am happy to answer any questions that are forwarded to me… Read more »
Not that you need changing, Ukdena! What I meant was that photographs from right there on the scene could help open people’s eyes. (I certainly failed to express that)
Egad,
pam
Ukdena,
Could you borrow one? Our son, who is not yet aware, was close to the Berkeley marches last fall. He took pictures and it changed him. He also talked with people.
Oh! Can you see the sr center from your house? It would be intriguing to keep a journal of comings and goings, dated and timed.
I am so excited for your opportunity to keep track of them. Is it soon, btw?
pam
That cool Alan. Catch ya on the rebound. 😉
Therefore Last on this one 🙂
Alan.
I’m on the latest thread till Ben posts a new one tomorrow.
Namaste,
Alan.
Truth and Faith “Truth cannot be defined with words, only by living. Truth is always more than knowledge. Knowledge pertains to things observed, but truth transcends such purely material levels in that it consorts with wisdom and embraces such imponderables as human experience, even spiritual and living realities. Knowledge originates in science; wisdom, in true philosophy; truth, in the religious experience of spiritual living. Knowledge deals with facts; wisdom, with relationships; truth, with reality values. “Man tends to crystallize science, formulate philosophy, and dogmatize truth because he is mentally lazy in adjusting to the progressive struggles of living, while he… Read more »
Look at the email address you sent to Ben—-you left off the d in his last name.
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 14, 2015 @ 10:32 am
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hahahahaha AND I gave the wrong letter. hahhahaha sorry
ooooopsie, I did not see that
Comment by jpm9909 on April 14, 2015 @ 10:14 am
already replied to the post about Ben’s addie.
Why did I get this when i emailed Mr. Fulford?
Final-Recipient: rfc822;benjaminfulord@hotmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable (495782920:4185:-2147467259)
Hope all is well,
Comment by vhawimdionc on April 14, 2015 @ 10:03 am
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Look at the email address you sent to Ben—-you left off the d in his last name.
While waiting patiently for Ben’s report, I felt the following might find interest concerning a response to a question on Good and Evil put to Jesus during his Sojourn at Rome. The bible does not mention any of these times and travels of Jesus in Rome which consumed most of his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth year of his life on earth. He traveled with two friends from India all departing from Jerusalem on a Sunday morning, April 26, A.D. 22. “My brother, good and evil are merely words symbolizing relative levels of human comprehension of the observable universe. If you are… Read more »
Comment by food2 on April 14, 2015 @ 9:53 am
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I will try with my little trac cell phone. How would I get the photos off of it?
We are going to the new comment section… yes?
pam
Wheelie @ 8:56 am: Trust and honor is a biggie for sure, and love this little cultural experience with all kinds of people and a few friends and acquaintances. No, I did not know FDR, the rest of the story, thanks. But I should have said was predominantly Japanese, many people from Bay Area moved here years ago with wineries, so on. Took most Apple orchards out and replaced with vineyards in Northern California, no trails today mr. Mozart, but have been inside on blog. Grinning like a JA. At times it is like being in a full hen house,… Read more »
@ Vhawimdionc on April 14, 2015 @ 10:03 am
Ben has an “F” missing from his name to prevent bots from spamming him. Just spell his name in full ” @ hotmail dot com”
from Ben
This week’s geopolitical news and analysis will appear on Tuesday, April 14th. This is in order to be able to include information this writer is expected to receive today.
Song for Ukdena, (tip o’ the hat to Caleb)
“I’m just a small-town girl
Living in a Homeland Security world
They’re doing a drill at the Senior Center
Just one more time…
Some will win. Some may lose
But they can’t make Dena confused
With Pam Food2’s camera,
she’s going on and on and on and on.
Snapping photos: AR’s and ninja turtle armor
Snapping photos: in the niiiiiiight…
🙂
Why did I get this when i emailed Mr. Fulford?
Final-Recipient: rfc822;benjaminfulord@hotmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable (495782920:4185:-2147467259)
Hope all is well,
Hope this will open up for you. Todays “Out Of Mind”
http://scannedretina.com/2015/04/13/dissolution-of-the-united-states-of-america-inc/
This is a unique exercise, and probably the reason for the Austin raid on the Republic of Texas a month or so ago. They are not succeeding from the Union. They are declaring the USA, Inc is not the same as the USA was and it is ran by a bunch of crooks. We’re out.
About the same for the State of Texas. It is so far off the mark of the legal State that we will just dissolve it and start anew.
The earth is flound.
Comment by gillfinn on April 14, 2015 @ 1:34 am
This might just be the best explanation yet!
Comment by lucybean on April 14, 2015 @ 9:37 am
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You persuaded me gillfinn and lucybean.
I always thought the earth was Breast-Shaped, Antarctica being the flat base and Everest as the nipple. Nepal? (not just a coincidence – or so I thought…)
What a schlemiel I was! Flound it is! Thank you for rescuing me from my own idiocy.
Ukdena,
Can you get some photos? 🙂
pam
Comment by deester on April 14, 2015 @ 9:45 am
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I live in a very, very small town in the middle of no where. This week in the paper a teeny article appeared telling us that Homeland Security will be doing a “little drill” here and for none of us to be concerned….and for us to not go near the senior center where it will be held. HUH??????? Now don’t you know I WILL be going by there, on foot, to see with my own eyes.
Jade Helm for US, Maple Resolve for Canada. http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.ca/2015/04/what-hell-maple-resolve-huge-drill-in.html Excerpt: Everyone in the alternative media has been made aware of the upcoming operational “drills” happening in the United States under the name “Jade Helm”. There have been those that have proclaiming that these drills could be both a test and the prelude to when the US Government imposes their planned Martial Law across America. It is also surprising that most of the American sheep are totally unaware of these drills taking place in what is supposed to be a “free” nation! BUT I caught something important today at the Investment… Read more »
The earth is flound.
Comment by gillfinn on April 14, 2015 @ 1:34 am
This might just be the best explanation yet!
John Kaminski’s take on the French air crash. http://therebel.is/en/kaminski/844922-false-flag-fatigue Excerpt: Judging by the spread of pieces of wreckage on the ground, that plane was demolished in midair, and finally we have received the more sensible analysis from the Anonymous hacking group of Germany that the plane was shot down by the French air force once it was determined the ill-fated Germanwings Airbus was aimed to crash into Europe’s biggest dam. Germany’s Anonymous, a network of computer hacktivists, say an analysis of flight data available from Flyradar24 shows the Germanwings Airbus was heading towards Europe’s biggest dam, north of the alleged… Read more »
Hi Belle3, Boy, some days are like that – I can totally relate. Let me borrow this term from Ukdena. XOXOXOXOXO FDR-san warui shito des ne! While we are on the subject, as you most likely know, FDR’s family was on the ground floor of the Fed. His uncle threw the election toward Woodrow “I ruined this country” Wilson. His nephew imprisoned Mossadeq for trying to get more than 13% of the Iran oil revenues for the citizenry when they were 50/50 partners with BP. Wouldn’t it take volumes to detail the extent of the roosevelt curse on this country?… Read more »
Re: Comment by ken74 on April 14, 2015 @ 6:40 am >Again, I’m not completely sold on a flat earth, but I believe I’ve been >misled and lied to throughout my life (like everything else). I’ve spent >much of my last few years researching and researching, while juggling >family time and my career. Admittedly I’ve been to busy to stay on the >grind with this. I’d love to hear from others’ in what they’ve discovered. Indeed… Isn’t it interesting how one thing leads to another and then another, etc? There are a lot of aspects of this that ring true,… Read more »
I’m loving it that we all feel free to email Ben when necessary. Independent thinkers on the BFC! And, hopefully he will answer pretty soon. 🙂
pam
Wheelie: Just for info: I live in a predominantly Japanese town. They do not vote democratic because of FDR, (ever) because he rounded them up up, took their land, took everything from their families, and put them in Japanese Concentration Camps in u.s. He also took everyone’s gold! Now we find out they really bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima because of ET bases underneath those cities, and not to stop a war or war was the excuse! We know nothing of the real truths behind anything, because it has been changed and rewritten. We have been lied too about everything, lied… Read more »
hahahahahahahah
New post up – but enough about that little trouser pup tent.
Sorry for being naughty…
Hello ken74, how could you be sold on the ‘flat earth’ theory? Lol, how could we be sold on any of their theories and especially the ‘official’ word? They have an extremely long history of broken promises, lies, cheating, murder, pedophilia, the list goes on. I think as time goes by and the collective consciousness emerges, the truths will reveal themselves. I have heard of the dinosaurs living among man, also the giants that walked the earth and the Smithsonian formed just as NASA was as a clearinghouse and battering ram of old school lies and pseudo science. Comment by… Read more »
I e-mailed our beloved report writer, Ben, a few minutes ago reminding him of the date. I told him we were salivating whilst waiting for his new article. heehee. Have not received a reply yet….
Comment by wheelie on April 14, 2015 @ 7:53 am
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Wheelie, we see things from 2 different cultural eyes and that is ok. I apologize for my curse (sssssssss) and take it back…. Forgive me?
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Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 14, 2015 @ 7:42 am
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I will always forgive you and I hope I didn’t transgress on you either and that you feel the same way about me. You have always been a real stalwart for me here – a breath of fresh air to me.
Admiration, respect, etc.
-Wheelie
We both posted at 7:42…guess we are in the same pod. 🙂
Wheelie, we see things from 2 different cultural eyes and that is ok. I apologize for my curse (sssssssss) and take it back…. Forgive me?
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Wilma Mankiller sounds like a heroine! She wasn’t in my history books and I appreciate you call our attention to her for me to look up. We need all the heroes we can get these day, don’t we?
Cheers! – Wheelie
Hi Carolm, Dena, Momi, Thank you – let me just ask though – what power has a president ever had in this country? We hold Jackson accountable for these broken treaties and the trail of tears – so appalling! Who was really behind it? My main point is, “have we ever really had a nation state here where the president had any power at all?” I’m not an apologist for Jackson yet I have to ask, why did Jackson turn so vehemently against the banker-industrialists? Did they twist his arm a little too hard, sully his name a little too… Read more »
Hmmm – usually Ben makes an announcement if he doesn’t post on Mondays.
I wonder what is up?
Again, I’m not completely sold on a flat earth, but I believe I’ve been misled and lied to throughout my life (like everything else). I’ve spent much of my last few years researching and researching, while juggling family time and my career. Admittedly I’ve been to busy to stay on the grind with this. I’d love to hear from others’ in what they’ve discovered. Comment by ken74 on April 14, 2015 @ 6:40 am ****************** Hello ken74, how could you be sold on the ‘flat earth’ theory? Lol, how could we be sold on any of their theories and especially… Read more »
After the Cherokee warriors fought for Andrew Jackson in the Indian Wars (against other tribes!) to make way for more settlers, he gave them land grants in Georgia, Alabama, etc. They built homesteads and villages on those land grants and a short few years later, he rounded them all up, put them in stockades, and marched all the families, elders, children a thousand miles during the winter to Oklahoma. It was genocide similar to Hitler, except he had just paid them in land for their bravery and loyalty to him. Comment by carolm on April 14, 2015 @ 7:02 am… Read more »
Deester @ 6:53 am: Great find. Thanks.
One thing I have always thought of also besides all truth you have already presented,
it was also a week away from December 21, 2012, when the world
changed in the heavens, a new age was starting.
They needed a Hugh distraction from December 21, 2012.
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Believe it or not!
XL on April 14, 2015 @ 3:37 am
OK Mister X, I probably might need to study the subject a little more, before judging as i did, but hopefully this study is worthwhile, considering our common interest( if not for anything else, i might otherwise risk to fall out in space when I come to earth´s edge…ha,ha).
Comment by wheelie on April 14, 2015 @ 7:01 am ****************** Yes wheelie, many of us really do know the story of jackson. Our history is carefully kept by elders in our thousands of years old oral traditions passed down from one generation to the next. All of us older indians have relatives/ancestors who died on the trail…. We do not have history books that can be changed on anyones whim. Mankiller is an honorable name. Names are given, or taken, to show we we are or who are ancestors were. Example: miller most likely was a grain milling family.… Read more »
wheelie,
After the Cherokee warriors fought for Andrew Jackson in the Indian Wars (against other tribes!) to make way for more settlers, he gave them land grants in Georgia, Alabama, etc. They built homesteads and villages on those land grants and a short few years later, he rounded them all up, put them in stockades, and marched all the families, elders, children a thousand miles during the winter to Oklahoma. It was genocide similar to Hitler, except he had just paid them in land for their bravery and loyalty to him.
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 14, 2015 @ 6:45 am ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you ukdena. But do we really know the story? That was almost 200 years ago. Andrew Jackson may have been a racist betrayer, or another in a loooooong line of misanthropic banker patsies. Still I find it repugnant to have a misanthropic name “man killer” on our currency (though it’s not unfitting for this country) but if it has to be, let’s have her replace that stooge-POS Hamilton on the 10 or roosevelt on the dime or chase on the 10K. I am with you and momi. Indigenous… Read more »
The sweet sound of psy-ops – how the exact same music was used for Dunblane School shooting documentary, plus an interview with Noah Posner’s “mother”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnPCGpPo04I
Some of the comments are pretty good.
that was meant to be 4000 died along the way. sssssssssssss
btw, out of the 16,000 indians taken to the west, at gunpoint and many in shakles, 3000 died along the way of starvation, the cold, and broken hearts.
I meant southeast not northeast—my feathers were up.
Comment by wheelie on April 14, 2015 @ 6:28 am ************** Wheelie, jackson did fight the federal reservers; however, he is is known, notoriously, as a 2 faced liar in the indian community of the southest. Many, many indian soldiers assisted him in his wars and then jackson gave it to them up the…..with no kiss first. He signed papers for all the northest indians to lose all their belongings, including farms etc and had them all moved to the west where they had no knowledge of the area, the plants, the spirits etc. Wilma Mankiller was a beloved chief… Read more »
Wheelie: thanks, but I don’t dislike, Intruth. I’m respect at lot of what she brings. I have reached out many times to her, to have it snapped. I’m would like to be better in fixing this, but I am not great at this. Ideas are welcome.
Chip: Why do you care? Grinning, funny guy.
Peace out.
I’ve also spent time researching “flat earth”. What started it for me was stumbling across information posing that dinosaurs existed with man, and that we’ve been lied to. I had reviewed and researched a documentary from Thomas Kindle called “The Great Dinosaur Deception Exposed”, that started it all. I was blown away by what I discovered…which lead me to discovering the “flat earth” movement, due to researching other elements. I can’t say I’m completely sold on the flat earth ideology, but I will say that researching this has uncovered a big rabbit hole that I’m still in. Again, I’m not… Read more »
Hello BFC Colleagues: I find it curious at best, unnerving at it’s worst to see folks here fighting with one another. Belle3 and Intruth shine a lot of light here, for example, but suddenly present as foes. What’s our motto here? Every man/woman for him/herself? Now we see a preponderance of posts prosecuting the only man who successfully defeated the counterfeiting mafia: Andrew Jackson. Let me ask you this: Would it not be naive to think he was behind this awful massacre in the U.S.? Qui bono? It’s always the industrialist banker POS’s. Now we have bandwagonners touting “MANKILLER”? I… Read more »
“original poster? credit? who gives a shit?”
(don’t believe Chip, I said this …. not him!) :p
original poster? credit? who gives a shit?
BFC: I have a solution to this, besides my complaint. Everyone has a different prospectus of viewing material. I try to give credit if it has been posted before to the poster, and then an I add-on. I try to be fair. Sometimes I am even questioned as to my intents. If everyone feels the same way, maybe give credit to original poster; then post how you view it, without manipulating the original intent of writer. So if it was a mistake, it’s okay. I feel this is honorable. It shows respect for original poster. I think that matters when… Read more »
A great product idea: A Frisbee that’s a flat Earth.
I’ll proceed to patent that, I think…
Tortillas, pancakes? What next?
Anon: Intruth doesn’t care if it’s been posted by anyone, she likes the credit. She’s been doing this for months to everyone. I finally decided to say something. But as I view from a different perspective, it gets posted twice, and maybe three times. I posted months ago about contracts by Andrew Bartzis. So don’t get all worked up. You did also I think. So The BFC is just catching up in their own time. And that’s okay. We know the truth. Now everyone does. Let her take the credit, that’s what she wants, and really who cares as long… Read more »
Comment by longbow on April 14, 2015 @ 4:47 am
She’s under 18.
I think Valtony’s onto something.
Pancake planet pandemonium!
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.:)
It’s a quarter till 5 in Tokyo – So maybe we’ll hear from Ben in a few hours. 🙂
I know what happened to Ben. With all the talk about the Flat Earth, his mood is flat too. If you guys continue talking non-sense, we will never get a report.
Tortilla Earth
Comment by accuchip on April 14, 2015 @ 4:03 am
Me 2 🙂
Comment by valtony on April 14, 2015 @ 4:26 am
Good luck, lol.
re: CERN http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=grCX24FOpOo Andrew Bartzis with Veronica Keen Adventures into Reality Part 1 01:30 AB: …… There’s 633 separate experiments at CERN right now and they are all called belief system control system CERN itself is a dimension teleport system to import a belief system And a belief system …. has an artificial intelligence behind it The AI is linked to the dreaming mind of another planet So they’re literally making a planet have 2 personalities and then taking one of the personalities out of that planet and then bringing it here as part of the belief system and enforce… Read more »
I am claiming and reserving #1 spot when Ben posts
sorry guys, I am numero uno
801
anybody heard from Ben?
Accuchip,
You’re number one in our book today!
I was going to try to be in the top 10 today dang it! Now I have to go run some errands.
Expect the report tomorrow.
The David Wilcock stuff on Gaiam tv is pretty interesting. Did you know your brain can see 350 miliseconds into the future?
Jamie Dunmore – one more awesome warrior of light. http://resourcemagonline.com/2014/02/jamie-dunmore-my-call-for-humanity/35496/ Amongst all the pictures of food and nonsense on Facebook sometimes a gem will pop up and remind me why I keep using my account. Thanks to my Facebook friend, Hanna who posted Jamie Dunmore’s video saying, “Stop scrolling and watch this” … I stopped scrolling and watched it… (thanks Hanna). I immediately contacted Jamie asking to interview him… Self-described as “an aspiring Public Figure/Speaker/Activist that’s trying to expand human consciousness.”, Jamie Dunmore’s spoken word video, “My Call For Humanity” impressed and moved me. It gave me much to think… Read more »
Maybe Ben Just fell asleep since it is so late there..
Sending you peace and love, Ben
Longbow
Healers Journal News April 13th, 2015
How to Shift Your Reality by Shifting Yourself
http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/04/13/how-to-shift-your-reality-by-shifting-yourself/
We do not see life as it is — we see life as we are.
+ Be Well +
Truth
Where are you Ben? Come out, come out, wherever you are.
Re: Comment by filip4 on April 14, 2015 @ 3:20 am >Are all these pictures then fake ? Well, according the to Eric Dubay, yes. All of the evidence showing the earth is round is fake, completely fake, and if you don’t believe that, you are a ****ing idiot. >Sorry, I do not get it..do we not have more important >things to ventilate here ? I too tried to ignore this for awhile, but a lot of people seem to be buying into it, so I decided to check into it myself. The more research I do on it, the… Read more »
Russia Warns “Attempts At Isolation Are Counterproductive & Useless”
Attempts to isolate Russia and ignore its position are useless and counterproductive, State Duma Speaker Sergey Naryshkin said on Monday, ahead of the decision to lift sanctions on anti-aircraft missiles to Iran. With the Russian stock market among the top performers of the year and The Ruble the strongest currency in the world this year, it appears he may be on to something…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/russia-warns-attempts-isolation-are-counterproductive-useless
Is Ben Ok? Normally by now we have heard there is a delay or it will be tomorrow or something.
I hope all is ok.
Cary
The earth flat ?!”#`=) Is this a delayed 1 april joke or what ? I haven´t been following this discussion in detail ( and so far do not have any interest either), but to me, a person usually open for the most strange of things, I find this just too strange. What do you see on these pictures https://www.google.rs/search?q=Photos+of+earth+seen+from+space&biw=1120&bih=617&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bQUsVf-QAcu3sQHAm4DwCA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ if not enough signs of a round ball form of the globe. Do you not see all pictures of its outlines from space makeing curves depending on angle and distance. Are all these pictures then fake ? Sorry, I do not… Read more »
If everyone in the US was a millionaire
then the people who are making 90 thousand dollars a day now
would be making 90 million dollars a day
and we would still be trying to make ends meet.
Has anyone emailed Ben today about the post?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXHnymHkpU
MIKE HARRIS: Short End of the Stick March 31 2015 with Guest Ben Fulford
Govt fund is run for the benefit of Norway citizens – everyone is a millionaire in Norway. Wow, what a concept.
at 1:28:54.
“Former Principal Chief Wilma Mankiller is one of four accomplished American women nominated to take the place of President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill, if the Women on 20s campaign is successful……”
Ukdena
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 14, 2015 @ 1:49 am
Hi Ukdena,
You have my vote for Wilma over Andrew two-faced liar.
Comment by XL on April 14, 2015 @ 2:20 am
re: Withdrawal/revocation of consent
Bradley Loves has done one of those too
https://bradleyloves.wordpress.com/declaratin-of-non-consent/
DECLARATION OF NON-CONSENT – (NEW)
Wow, maybe the Earth is a huge spacecraft…. right.
It is a possibility,considering the fact that we don’t really know where we come from,where we are,or where we are going…
The Earth is a terrarium and a spaceship created and maintained by aliens we think of as God.Everything and everyone on this planet and the planet itself is the creation of a class three alien civilization.Who are so fantastically advanced that we can only think of them as God and we call some of their creations and technologies the rain,the wind and the snow…
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread775086/pg1
Re: Comment by intruth on April 14, 2015 @ 2:08 am
>Andrew Bartiz put this together – It’s important to read these
>– aloud or silently, to remove control.
Nice… I’ll go through these and see if there are any I missed over the last few years.
>I guess it’s not enough to say “I revoke all the shit I didn’t consent to.”
Some of the things are coded, written in a certain way.
BREAKING: Flat Earth. I got the scientific proof that the Earth is unmistakably fart. I got to the top of the roof of my house with long distance goggles and discover that It is totally flat and shaped like a Frisbee. That is the reason it floats in space. GAME OVER I got the proof.
Comment by valtony on April 14, 2015 @ 2:16 am
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LOL…..
http://www.fixedearth.com/knowledge-impact.html
Interesting material related to the flat Earth topic.
Love to all
Roy x
BREAKING: Flat Earth. I got the scientific proof that the Earth is unmistakably fart. I got to the top of the roof of my house with long distance goggles and discover that It is totally flat and shaped like a Frisbee. That is the reason it floats in space. GAME OVER I got the proof.
Soul Contract Revocations
By Andrew Bartzis, the Galactic Historian.
http://galactichistorian.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/soul%20contract%20revocations%20full.pdf
Andrew Bartiz put this together – It’s important to read these – aloud or silently, to remove control.
I guess it’s not enough to say “I revoke all the shit I didn’t consent to.”
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 14, 2015 @ 1:34 am
>The earth is flound.
I’ll go with that!
Re: Comment by kuuleimomi on April 14, 2015 @ 1:34 am
>Correction: How deep and wide is hollow earth? If it
>were flat is there really a hollow earth?
They give no explanation of what is below earth or past the ring of Antarctica, so who knows what is out there or below us?
Maybe we are just on the top layer of a giant can.
777
Flat earth considerers versus global-shaped earth believers…. Kinda like the “Butter-Up versus Butter-Down” of children books. Hmmmm.
There is a grass roots campaign to remove Andrew Jackson, the 2-faced Indian killer off of the $20 bill.
Here is my choice to put on the twenty:
http://www.cherokeephoenix.org/Article/index/9152
“Mankiller finalist in Women on 20s campaign”
“Former Principal Chief Wilma Mankiller is one of four accomplished American women nominated to take the place of President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill, if the Women on 20s campaign is successful……”
Ukdena
Gotta go iPhone losing power. Need to conserve for new post.
Have a good discussion. I’m also on the bus bouncing up and down. Difficulty typing.
Oops, didn’t see intruth post. I still vote for a round earth and flat disk moon. Hmm. Does that mean earth is a flat disk, too, or square box?
I get it it’s a Luminosity discussion. Ok by me. I still vote round earth.
And there goes my comment on “end of discussion.”
The earth is flound.
Correction: How deep and wide is hollow earth? If it were flat is there really a hollow earth?
no new report today?
I vote no flat earth, if it were so, how thick is hollow earth? Comment by kuuleimomi on April 14, 2015 @ 1:07 am ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is Andrew Bartiz’s description of hollow earth: Let me explain what Inner Earth is. Inner Earth, in this 3D perspective, is rock and molten core. From another perspective, it’s a hollow world Only because the rocks have infinite space amongst all of their atoms So when we see quantum understanding, a whole city can live in the space between atoms That’s what the Agarthan network is It’s a representation that beings are no longer… Read more »
For what it’s worth, I decided to register and chime in on the discussion on the shape of the Earth. In the Portal Konstanz conference last month Cobra said, with a bit of frustration in his voice, that he hopes that everyone has figured out that the Earth is round. I own a telescope and I’ve often looked at the moon. You can clearly see the curvature of the moon even with a very basic set-up. Even though such contemplations are not harmful per se, they’re in my opinion distracting people’s focus from the real goal, which is of course… Read more »
Read it… just look at the Table Of Content…
You will never look at life the same again!
Comment by secondlife on April 14, 2015 @ 12:45 am
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Very eye-opening. Saved it for later reading. After reading most of this post by anonymous, I can’t deal with any more for now.
http://pastebin.com/gGb8P1r6
Andrew Bartzis with Veronica Keen
Adventures into Reality Part 1
I vote no flat earth, if it were so, how thick is hollow earth? End of discussion on both.
I know, kill joy.
Malama pono,
Momi
Unfortunately– I think this is disinformation to measure how gullible we are.
Getting ready for the next disinfo – to make you so confused you can never recover.
Comment by cornpoppin on April 13, 2015 @ 11:45 pm
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The first thing you must do inside this discourse is look at the information presented, your above questions will be answered.
Hilarious Hilary for President!
I recommend that anyone not familiar with
The Matrix Deciphered
Read it… just look at the Table Of Content…
You will never look at life the same again! 😯
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/The-Matrix-Deciphered_Robert-Duncan_Nov-2010_276p.pdf&chrome=true
Go to page 167…
It’s called Lens Effect 😉 Damn I like remembering!
I believe I read it here…
The Matrix Deciphered
http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.com/
I remember reading that both Chemtrails and HAARP are used together to ‘see’ around the earth… they use the atmosphere with its metallic particles as some kind of ‘mirror’ to see what’s going on the other side. 😉
Hope we get a great report today. 🙂
about the flat Earth..
what are satellites orbiting if it isn’t a round Earth?
How about your airplane flights–do they zig zag or do they circle?
also
when there is an eclipse on the other side of the globe that your country cannot see–
how could there be if the Earth was flat.
Unfortunately– I think this is disinformation to measure how gullible we are.
Getting ready for the next disinfo – to make you so confused you can never recover.
Comment by anonymous on April 13, 2015 @ 11:11 pm
Thanks for reposting those. I saw them but haven’t have time to read. I’ll check them out now.
Comment by intruth on April 13, 2015 @ 10:08 pm
There’s links to the transcripts for the 1st three Keen/Bartzis shows in my earlier post of April 13, 2015 @ 9:19 am
(unless the censors here have deleted that comment……)
Hi, I have really been skipping over all of the comments of “Flat Earth.” But I would like to offer this.
The lines of sight follows the curvature of the earth. That might explain the light house sighting that should be out of sight. A simple test for this effect is to watch the sun go down. As the sun gets lower and lower, keep judging the rate is descent. It gets lower, lower, lower and then pop it’s gone. The last rate of descent is faster than when you started your test.
More on vaccines.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/04/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-no-on-sb277-speech/
Excerpt: In this address given on the California Capitol steps in Sacramento Robert Kennedy Jr. provides an inspired and detailed analysis of the extent to which the powerful pharmaceutical cartel has effectively captured the nation’s scientific, regulatory, and law-making processes. Combined with the corporate news media’s dependence on drug advertising, this has put big pharma in a position where it is running roughshod over informed choice and dictating vaccine policies that have little-if-any basis in scientific research yet will greatly contribute to that industry’s already gargantuan profits.
More on site.
Is Alexis Tsipras of Greece hiding his true identity? Is he really Alexis Cipra – a Jew? – FWIW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A CHARISMATIC NEW WORLD LEADER APPEARS FROM NOWHERE AND TAKES CONTROL OF GREECE Geri Ungurean | February 11, 2015 Excerpt: Already there are comparisons between Tsipras and Obama. The adoring crowds. The rock star status. The people really don’t know much about their new PM. Sound familiar? They know that Tsipras met his partner, and mother of his kids, in high school, when they both joined Student’s for Communism. I have been digging into the Internet, attempting to find everything… Read more »
Sorry for the length – very intriquing Montague Keen, Sunday, April 12, 2015 Posted by Jean My friends, the time has come when action is needed on your part. I have guided you forward. I have shown you what is required of you. We do our best on this side of life. We now need you to act together on your side of life. We show you the way and open your eyes to what was done to you, to enable the Cabal to create the prison planet you have become accustomed to living in. Freedom is within your grasp.… Read more »
re: flat earth discussion.
Go ask someone who knows how to use a sextant and see what he has to say
AKING = TAKING
Yikes..
Speaking of Hillary
AKING DOWN HILLARY CLINTON ONCE AND FOR ALL
by Devvy, News With Views:
http://sgtreport.com/2015/04/taking-down-hillary-clinton-once-and-for-all/
Lots of sordid details about Hill and Bill in this one.
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 13, 2015 @ 8:53 pm >My head just exploded from all the math, not my strong suit and I >wouldn’t use Google to figure anything out. The devil’s tool, lol. Yeah, math isn’t my strong point either, but I know how to figure some things out if I need to. *grin* It is like a curse (blessing?) that I have where I instinctively HAVE to understand how everything works, or it bugs me. *sigh* That is why my head hurts from the flat earth theory… It simply makes no sense! *grin* >Anyway, I guess… Read more »
Jim Stone April 13 2015 The perfect scoop on Australia’s “forced vaccine” policy: Mark wrote: “Hi Jim Dont know if you will get this email or not because I have sent a fair few to you & have had no reply. You always have the courtesy to reply to me so I know the imbeciles here in Australia are censoring them. & speaking of imbeciles here…Our puppet Prime Minister Abbott( who follows the NWO around like a lost dog) has just announced that any families that refuse to have their children vaccinated will lose any family government payments as well… Read more »
My head just exploded from all the math, not my strong suit and I wouldn’t use Google to figure anything out. The devil’s tool, lol.
Anyway, I guess we’ll see when we see, but I just can’t buy the official meme anymore.
Hey, happy days ahead, Hillary just announced she’s running, everything’s all better now. As Edge says, “it’s all blue sky and roses as far as the eye can see.”
Re: Comment by mozart on April 13, 2015 @ 1:54 pm >So, if the Earth is round, one would expect the positions/movements >of the stars to align with the expected movements/positions, relative >to a round Earth. Precisely my point! The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Entire fields of study have evolved into the mathematics involved in the path of the stars in our skies. You can go anywhere in the world, and figure out where you are simply by looking at the sky at night. Many many computer programs and smart-phone apps are available charting the circular path… Read more »
Fukushima ALERT: 7,000,000 Bq m3 Drinking Water in Canada
rom MissingSky101:
https://youtu.be/bhgkPowGVbk
btw, tom heneghan has a substance abuse problem. Last year the VT guys tried to get him to rehab and since then he has really gone off the deep end/ just saying.
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 13, 2015 @ 9:42 am
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That’s quite interesting. That may explain the stuff he puts on his site.
the whole of us
is more important
Geno has no recollection of hats?
Chip
His dog ate his homework?
Gil
I’ve always loved your input here .
So we can agree to disagree on this one.
I think of the cosmos as alive
doing a square dance
in a sacred circle
becoming Planetary is the road to hoe
to realize their is life like you outside of this solar system
Just like their is infinite sand on beaches.
Gil,Grahm
The light house discussion
made me think of a
“Laser-Level” you can buy at home depot
Gil= what about you recreate the experiment using a laser
Across lake Michigan? It’s the perfect testing,
you cannot see the other side,
Keep it horizontal with all heights.
I grew up on Lake Michigan.
Watched the ships appear
Graham
Capture on Video the laser experiment see what happens?
For all of us round Earthists. To be precise “round” is an incorrect term. I believe the word “round” refers to a circle which is one dimensional. In the same way a square is not a cube, a circle is not a globe The Earth is a globe so the term would be “globular”. A flat earth model could still be round and flat at the same time, a flat plane in the shape of a circle. Now I’m being nit-picky with the language, so we can just stick with “round” for ease in communication, but in the context of… Read more »
Human Heads are not oval they are actually cubes.
“The reason heads appear oval is because the pupil, the iris and the cornea are round, an ocular distortion occurs fooling our visual perception which make heads appear to be oval.
Though the true of our heads which are fact cubic.”
Sir Rupert Humpledink
The Blockhead Society
Been a busy week-end— Land clearing some of the property that runs along a freeway– Had to make sure the loggers, never fell some of the taller trees, onto the freeway—it all worked out, the logs should pay for the land clearing– A friend that works at installing under-ground services for house building lots —was telling me to-day, the sub- division he is working on now –the serviced bare lots, are selling at $800,000.each— seems kind of pricey to me– Inflation maybe??? ————- As gillfinn says relax —wars are the thing of the past– It’s all blue sky and roses… Read more »
…stargazer’s…stargazers’
XL and Accuchip Great stuff flattening out the flat Earth theory. I would think that the definitive proof of our Earth being round vs flat would be to carefully measure the movement/placement of the stars at precise positions along an exact longitude line on Earth, yes? Looking at a lattitude/longitude map, I can see that the 15-degree and 30-degree longitude to the right (East) of the Prime Meridian going through most of Europe and Africa, enabling easy, land-based comparisons of the movements/positions of the stars right smack on the longitude line, going down South, say, every 200 miles, or so.… Read more »
So 194 divided by .57 is 338 and the square root of 338 is 18.4. So from 194 feet up the horizon is 18.4 miles away. And from 50 feet up the horizon is 9.3 miles away sooo from 27.7 miles away a guy on a ship 50 ft. up would just see the top of lighthouse 194 feet up.
Thanks XL it took me a while but I found your formula with google.
So the earth is round after all.
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 13, 2015 @ 10:48 am >He waded into the river and used a telescope held eight inches above >the water to watch a boat with a five-foot mast row slowly away from him. First mistake… Using a river. Rivers operate off of current flow, and do not follow the curvature of the earth in the same way. >For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude >of 194 feet is visible from 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry >dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 >inches… Read more »
oh wait a minute if you have to square it every mile then the earth must be flat.
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correction 175.25 feet above the horizon
The distance from which various lighthouse lights around the world are visible at sea far exceeds what could be found on a globe Earth 25,000 miles in circumference. For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, this light should be hidden 190 feet below the horizon! Comment by gillfinn on April 13, 2015 @ 10:48 am ==================================== The earth would only curve 18.75 feet over 28 miles leaving… Read more »
Leo Lyon Zagami has a new book out:
Pope Francis: The Last Pope? Money, Masons and Occultism in the Decline of the Catholic Church
http://cccpublishing.com/Last-Pope
“The first investigation was carried out by Samuel Birley Rowbotham (1816-1884), the president of the Flat Earth Society, in the summer of 1838. He waded into the river and used a telescope held eight inches above the water to watch a boat with a five-foot mast row slowly away from him. He reported that the vessel remained constantly in his view for the full six miles to Welney bridge, whereas, had the water surface been curved with the accepted circumference of a spherical earth, the top of the mast should have been some eleven feet below his line of sight.… Read more »
XL,
Two weeks ago Dan was wondering if I should be committed ( to an institution.) Tonight he dug out his two “bibles” . . Machinery’s Handbook, 21st edition and Handbook of Applied Mathematics.
He said he wanted to figure out the math on his own and came up with the curvature of the earth at 8 inches at one mile. I will take his word on that. 🙂
Comment by deester on April 13, 2015 @ 10:03 am
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One sleepy at a time…… 🙂 Each of them will tell others, they the others will tell others………
“Operation Fishbowl was a series of high altitude nuclear tests in 1962 that were carried out by the United States as a part of the larger Operation Dominic nuclear test program. The Operation Fishbowl nuclear tests were originally planned to be completed during the first half of 1962 with three tests named Bluegill, Starfish and Urraca.” The word Urraca is Spanish for Magpie, in Latin ‘thievish’, referencing the Magpie’s interest in shiny things. ************** The Russians and Americans both made these high altitude nuclear tests on the heels of what had gone down in the Antarctic. There’s no mention of… Read more »
Comment by winifred on April 13, 2015 @ 9:53 am ******************* It is becoming clearer by the minute:EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, AND TOLD, IS A BIG,FAT LIE! I see it constantly in my own life. I am soon to be 68 and I have witnessed many things in my life. The history books write it up totally different than what I saw first hand. You might be interested in this book: _Columbus and other Cannibals”_ by Jack D. Forbes. This quote is from the back cover of the book: “Brutality know no boundaries. Greed knows no limits. Perversion knows… Read more »
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 13, 2015 @ 8:55 am >They haven’t drilled into the earth further than 8 miles anywhere in the world. Yet, >there are all kinds of definitive geological maps/diagrams etc., all the way down >to the Earth’s supposed core. >I realize they have capable magnetic resonance imaging and other types of survey >equipment, but whether or not the truth of what they’ve found is ever really disclosed >or not is the huge ‘grey area’. A lot of what they are basing that off of is the “echos” they are getting from explosions at the surface.… Read more »
Woke up two sleepies today at a wake with Sandy Hook and Wakefield no blood operation.
Re: Comment by rebecca on April 13, 2015 @ 8:13 am >I am going to order his book so that I can take my time and get my questions lined up. Let me know what you think about the math involved in calculating the curve. >I wonder what the REAL reason is that independent explorers to the Antarctic >are met with armed patrols!? Michael and I have discussed this a few times on this blog. They are blocking people from that area because of the hole at the pole. There is one at the South Pole also, but that has… Read more »
Rebecca and UKdenadreamer: thank you all for your comments of the flat earth theory. I ordered and am reading the Flat Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay. As a believer of the hollow earth theory for over 30 years, I find this intriguing. All of it! The moon and sun and stars aspect of this is wildly intriguing! We have been subjected to so many lies over the course of our lives that it is difficult to accept many of the thing we are being introduced to lately. I still am in shock learning that Christopher Colombus raped and murdered his… Read more »
I….” t’s a GREAT overview. Love the VT guys.”
Comment by intruth on April 13, 2015 @ 9:19 am
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so do i!! I have been following the VT site for a couple of years. I listen to everything that Gordon Duff and Jim Dean, and a couple of the others say.
btw, tom heneghan has a substance abuse problem. Last year the VT guys tried to get him to rehab and since then he has really gone off the deep end/ just saying.
Ukdena and Deester,
RE: Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, 9/11 etc.
This is why I print the article from VT – ‘Wouldn’t You Want to Know?’ and have passed it around.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/21/wouldnt-you-want-to-know/
It’s a GREAT overview. Love the VT guys.
Comment by belle3 on April 13, 2015 @ 7:19 am
There are transcripts to part of the first 3 shows that Veronica Keen did with Andrew Bartzis
http://pastebin.com/gGb8P1r6
http://pastebin.com/5U3mLGqH
http://pastebin.com/mmAMtizU
I have been thinking about how powerful Wolfgang’s simple questions are.
What if someone could come up with a single question, or a series of questions that would be so OBVIOUS ( not quite the right word) or intriguing . . that it would cause even the least aware to BLINK their eyes or start to wonder?
Anyways… I’m a firm believer in Occum’s Razor, where the simplest explanation is probably the right one. So so many things about how the weather works, how the sun rises and sets, and the climate, and everything else is explained by a round Earth. But to try to explain those same facts with a flat Earth model just doesn’t make sense. Thus, the simplest explanation is that it is round. Comment by XL on April 13, 2015 @ 5:53 am ***************** XL, thanks for putting the time in to that response. I’ll never be convinced one way or the other… Read more »
Rebecca, I was writing my above post before You posted yours re. Deester. 🙂 Synchronicity.
“….One of these days, ONE of these big lies is going to come apart at the seams. It could be 9/11, Sandy Hook, vaccines . . whatever, but then the other lies will rise to the surface like zits. 😉 ” Comment by rebecca on April 13, 2015 @ 8:19 am ********************** Absolutely!!!!! We have often spoken here, some of us, about how we volunteered to be here and we each came with a certain “job” to do. Our own Deester is a perfect example. She has latched on to the Sandy Hook make believe drama like a pit bull… Read more »
Deester,
One of the main reasons that I admire Wolfgang Halbig is for his list of 16 simple questions. All the questions should be covered by the Freedom of Information act, and he is unable to get answers.
The video you posted earlier this week of Wolfgang’s agent confronting the Connecticut FOIA office was a classic and infuriating example of the corruption in our judicial system.
I don’t know what Halbig’s next step or plan is. ( do you?) But we still don’t know WHO ordered those porta potties, who did NOT call the life support helicopters etc.
Here’s a great piece about watching our own thinking.
Have you been thinking about dying lately? http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=14708
Stefie,
Even the Flat Earth people do not think the Earth is a thin pancake. I will be reading to find out what the Ancient civilizations believed. I was never curious before.
I want to find out if the whole debate might uncover yet another big lie that we have been told.
One of these days, ONE of these big lies is going to come apart at the seams. It could be 9/11, Sandy Hook, vaccines . . whatever, but then the other lies will rise to the surface like zits. 😉
Comment by rebecca on April 13, 2015 @ 8:13 am
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Good post Rebecca, I agree with your findings. I have listened to well over 20 hours of flat earth material now……. 😐 I will post my findings, and opinions, later—maybe tomorrow.
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Thanks XL for your perspective on the video. I ended up listening to the whole interview also and found it fascinating. I am going to order his book so that I can take my time and get my questions lined up. The tone of his voice rang “true” for me . . at least that he was being sincere in his presentation. However, he admitted that he did not know for SURE what shape the “flat earth” really was, but he questioned WHY NASA would offer a totally round sphere, if it were really not the case. I thought he… Read more »
Deester@ 7:33 am: I appreciate you work connecting dots of the same woman, “now blonded” in so many false flags throughout U.S. and Canada. Michael did say we could either to take it slow – as was the “cabal’s program”, the painful way. The choice has been made already, we say N O! O! Everthing has sped up now, it’s almost May, 2015. People are waking up and asking questions, (maybe not our kin or friends). Talk to strangers, many are waking up. Mozart info only: April 12, 2015. Facebook will now track users’ finances, in addition to social contacts,… Read more »
Mozart,
Chem trail haze at sunset in NJ today. One chem trail overhead now. The horizon line is dirty gray. Dim ligar all afternoon. I miss the blue skies from the early 90’s. At least there are memories of them in the older movies.
Pretty amazing stuff about alien contact by a HAM radio in 50’s and their Message to us.
http://dream-prophecy.blogspot.com/2013/08/extraterrestrial-contacts-by-ham-radio.html?m=1
People are waking up… just not quick enough for my liking!
Comment by secondlife on April 13, 2015 @ 3:44 am
I agree. Start them out slow. I showed two people at a wake I was at about the Ottawa Citizen/Marysville school shooting being reported in the newspapers the day before it happened, and the Greenberg fools in Sandy Hoax with their timeine discrepancies. Their jaws dropped, but they wanted links because people know things are not right and they want the truth!
It seems tunnels as reference points in Ireland, and can be accessed to all other tunnels on earth. Fascinating. Answers many questions we have been asking. Why CERN has failed again, good call/one Gillfinn.
http://www.montaguekeen.com
Montague Keen, Sunday, April 12, 2015.
The time for ACTION is now. Ireland is the key to our freedom. Too much gloom and doom today. Need an uplifting spiritual push and feel good day, tune into Montague’s post.
http://www.galacticchannelings.com
Mozart: Thanks for understanding and for reading.
Earth’s equator is approximately 125,000 feet
larger in circumference than at the poles.Comment by mozart on April 13, 2015 @ 6:49 am
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I misstated this; the correct version is below:
The Earth is 125,000 feet thicker in diameter at the Equator, than at the Poles.
XL Thank you for your useful summary. Of course the Earth is not perfectly round. I had learned in geology that the Earth’s equator is approximately 125,000 feet larger in circumference than at the poles. The bulge is due to the centrifugal force of the Earth spinning around. @@@@@@@@@@ Belle I’m not asking for your specific area of where you live — just a general area, like a state, etc. But don’t kid yourself if you think that the NSA does not know where you live — they do, and more. But I respect that you don’t want to put… Read more »
K-Puppy: Ghostery. – Thank you.
Just another excuse to destroy our ‘true’ history! 😡
Video: Islamic State group destroys ancient ruins of Nimrud
http://news.yahoo.com/video-islamic-state-group-destroys-ancient-ruins-nimrud-075504213.html
Fall 2015 Turning Point-Civil Unrest and Riots-Martin Armstrong
By Greg Hunter On April 12, 2015
https://youtu.be/FvcfYyuMDh8
http://usawatchdog.com/fall-2015-turning-point-civil-unrest-and-riots-martin-armstrong/
XL @ 5:54 am: “I believe it is more of a toroid shape”. 😉
I went to the Pediatrician last week only to find out that he is no longer accepting children who refuse to get vaccinated! WTF
Comment by secondlife on April 13, 2015 @ 3:44 am
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I was afraid of that – for adults too. I’m going to stay away as much as possible. Dr’s are so ‘gestapo’ now.
I saw an article about Dr’s suicides. You’d think there would be some kind of a movement by Dr’s to free themselves from the fascist tyranny. The ones I’ve known seem to have drank the kool-aid. Too bad.
Earth’s Magnetic Pole Shift is Accelerating on February 9, 2015.
A more up-to-date report by Linda Moulton Howe interviews Professor in Italy. A few more pieces to why flat earth theory is being pushed now.
Good listen.
http://youtu.be/PkP0eCfrVBc
More answers to magnetic pole shift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCarnHcYwU
http://youtu.be/RBCarnHcYwU
All this talk about the ‘Flat Earth Theory’ has me remembering a guy who used to post about the universe…
Dan1uc who used to say that there weren’t any stars…
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dan1uc?feature=mhum
Seems to coincide with a lot of the Flat Earth talk. 😉
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 12, 2015 @ 9:56 pm >I’ve heard those arguments and that’s why it doesn’t stand up. Besides >this, they’ve just come out (mainstream) with an announcement that now >the earth is pear shaped. >So, which is it? We’ve all seen the perfect round photos of earth from space >(composites by their own admission) so how can they have it both ways? I don’t think it is perfectly round myself. I think that most of the photos that show it is were altered to show it as such, or the shadows just made it look… Read more »
Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 12, 2015 @ 1:47 pm >Having been on the ‘globe’ side of the fence for most of my life, XL, I’d like >to hear the same in one paragraph evidencing the round earth theory. Well, after listening to the interview that Reb posted, I have a better reference point to discuss this from. The flat earth theory can be summed up as such: The earth is a flat disk, with the north pole in the center, and Antartica as a vast frozen wasteland surrounding the edge. The math proving the horizon drops about 8… Read more »
GF @ 9:56 am: From what I have read the earth is expanding around middle, the equator. But if there is a pole shift occurring, where would that put the equator now? Many questions?
I will say… listening to the Flat Earth Theory has its merit… makes sense…
Makes me really think we are just one big computer program!
Just another reason to let it ALL Go… breathe deep… relax… and find things to still smile about! 😉
Be Well
Re: Comment by rebecca on April 12, 2015 @ 11:35 pm
>If you can find about 6 minutes, I would recommend Eric Dubay’s bullet
>points for the Flat Earth Theory at the beginning of this interview:
>Start at the 4:25 and go to about 11 minutes.
Thanks, that helps summarize the arguments. I did listen to the entire hour of interview whilst doing laundry, so I have a better idea of what you guys are talking about now.
Mozart @ 12:52 am: This is volunteer info of course, so where I live there are no chemtrails today as of yet. I would not want you to know where I preside or expect to remember, so rest easy my friend.
There is no way to peace.
Peace is the way.
Sorry Mozart @ 4:37 am: I should have reread the bs part again, did not connect, again sorry. Still chuckling to myself, but not aimed t you.
Comment by archonsdefeat on April 13, 2015 @ 4:46 am Absolutely… attaching to an outcome… waiting… keeps you in their moment and not yours… We become ‘attached’ to their agenda and not our own. We allow ourselves to be ‘influenced’ ‘guided’ by their ideas, their desires and have forfeited a piece of ourselves in it all. There is no doubt tptb know everything we know… they have the advanced of being privy to things we are just discovering… so time is on their side. But as we awake… they lose time… they lose control of the future outcomes, regardless of… Read more »
Comment by secondlife on April 13, 2015 @ 3:44 am
It’s hard to be a witness in it all.
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secondlife, I so feel the same way.
Healers Journal News April 12th, 2015
How to Activate Oxytocin in Your Body: The Bliss and Bonding Hormone
http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/04/12/how-to-activate-oxytocin-in-your-body-the-bliss-and-bonding-hormone/
The body releases Oxytocin in response to deep, pleasurable, connection experiences and so learning to activate Oxytocin generally creates positive patterns in your life
+ Be Well +
Truth
Domenica matina
I’m just going to try to be happy in it all… as hard as it is indeed…
Baby steps towards things that matter most… family, friends and finding peace of mind and soul…
Comment by secondlife on April 13,
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I’ve been thinking the same sort of thing myself over the last few weeks. Waiting for the BIG changes seems to go on and on. Got to try to be happy/serene in the meantime otherwise it’s just too hard to keep waiting and hoping. The big picture is important but I have to work with the here and now too.
Comment by Mozart on April 12, 2015 @ 1:34 pm: ;). Just caught this and have to agree wholeheartedly with this statement . . . .
~~~~~~~”I absolutely do NOT CONSENT to your bullshit!”~~~~~
How about few more, a mere couple thousand tonight, all awaken tonight.
So I finally watched the movie “Interstellar” Great flick… so much so that I walked around for a day ‘feeling’ different about life… rather ‘transformed’ and for the better. 😉 I wonder if the lack of food for the planet was a prediction of sorts for our current situation with California and the polluting of the oceans and drinking water?? 😕 You got to like how they disclosed the fake landing on the moon and such. I have to admit… I have reached the point that not only have I realized that just about everything we have been taught has… Read more »
I ‘feel’ a sense of urgency in the air… like a frantic pace to get tptb agenda done… Things seem to be happening beyond a ‘quickened’ pace… Chemtrails, vaccines, pollution in every way just being rammed down our throats… but why??? 😕 I mean what’s the deadline all about??? Death and destruction whether in months or a few extra years is all the same in the end! 😡 I went to the Pediatrician last week only to find out that he is no longer accepting children who refuse to get vaccinated! WTF And he is an old school Chinese guy… Read more »
Earning their CIAcheque. Fake Sandy Hook parents cry about cuts to mental health funding. Hey, Dr. Jeremy Richman – your “daughter” is actually Lenie Urbina, whose father was active in the Congregation Adath Israel and has ties to the music industry. http://newtownbee.com/news/news/2015/04/09/1214-parents-reflect-governors-devastating-cuts-me/260980 Excerpt: In the wake of 12/14, victims’ parents including Dr Jeremy Richman and Nelba Marquez-Greene heard state politicians, including Governor Dannel Malloy, talk about their commitment to supporting frontline mental health support and research that many hoped would help prevent another tragedy like the one that struck Sandy Hook Elementary School. Less than five months ago, those same… Read more »
InTruth,
The X22 video was very comprehensive.(The U.S. Government Is Preparing For The Economic Collapse And War – X22 Report – Episode 638 https://youtu.be/Aom0Y8BrHGk )
We have a friend who swears by this guy’s info. What he stated here makes sense… to me. 🙂 Thanks.
pam
Edge,
The owner of the parenting blog used to post here. I can’t quite remember his username, something like Glenn7. This blog sounds a bit hysterical. It made me think of NAI’s comment that there is a huge amount of disinfo now.
What do you think?
pam
Parenting Blog— snip–
There are reports that the Rockefeller controlled White Dragon Society are ready to begin their various “sustainable” programs within the USA as the new Red Chinese BRICS Illuminati banking system takes over).
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