US Corporate government goes bankrupt on April 17th, refuses to acknowledge

The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION based in the Washington D.C. extra-territorial enclave inside the Republic of the United States of America failed to make a payment on March 31st and was given until April 17th to come up with the goods but was unable to, according to Chinese government and CIA sources. For that reason the US corporate government has gone bankrupt, the sources say. However, the folk in Washington do not plan to go quietly and are still fighting to survive.

This can be confirmed in the corporate propaganda and government news wires around the world in reports about the Washington IMF/World Bank meetings that ran from April 16-18. The news reports to the general public do not mention the word bankruptcy but rather say things like 19 out of the 20 so-called G20 countries are angry that the US will not give up its veto over the World Bank and IMF. In other words the US government has been publicly repudiated by leaders of 19 out of the 20 top economies.

The current US situation reminds of an old joke my mother told me about a woman watching a military parade and shouting proudly “look my son is the only one marching in step.”

Underneath the surface too, there is a lot of spy movie type subterfuge going on involving high denomination bonds, identity theft, murder and secret negotiations as various players jockey for position in the emerging new financial system.

A new set of meetings between the White Dragon Society and Chinese communist government representatives last week ended with

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Greece, and most other countries for that matter may want to take a close look at what Iceland has done. Here is a excellent article on Iceland’s Economic Revolution.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/21/iceland-s-economic-revolution/

Excerpt below:

The government’s main priority was to insulate the nation’s population and economy from the effects of the wanton lending abuses of the three banks, something the present Greek government was elected to do for its citizens, to the horror of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble and others. By November 2008 Iceland’s unemployment had tripled in a matter of two months.

Decisive action

When the dust settled, relative to the size of its economy, Iceland’s systemic banking collapse ranked as the largest experienced by any country in economic history. By the October 2008 the country’s three major banks–Glitnir bank, Landsbanki and Iceland’s largest bank, Kaupþing were placed into state receivership, nationalized.

That was the same time US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who deliberately triggered the Lehman crisis, categorically refused nationalizing the criminal Wall Street banks, contemptuously stating, “Nationalization is socialism; we don’t do that here.” It was a lie at best as Paulson, with carte blanche control over an unprecedented $700 billion Troubled Asset Recovery Fund, bailed out AIG, Goldman Sachs and his old buddies on Wall Street with “socialized” losses dumped on American taxpayers.

Unlike Greece or Ireland or other EU countries or the USA, the Iceland Parliament and government refused to give unlimited state guarantee to save the private banks.

They nationalized them instead, creating a “Good bank-Bad bank” model loosely based on the successful Swedish 1992 experience with Securum. All domestic assets of the three banks were placed in new publicly-owned domestic versions of the banks. All foreign liabilities of the banks, which had expanded with subsidiaries in the UK and Netherlands, went into receivership and liquidation. British and Dutch bank counterparties and governments shrieked howls of protest, threatening Iceland with being blackballed and forever cut off from further credit by the world. The government also imposed currency controls.

The Parliament established an Office of Special Prosecution to investigate allegations of criminal fraud by government and bankers. People responsible went to prison. Baldur Guðlaugsson, Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Finance went to prison for insider trading; the president of Glitnir bank went to prison for tax fraud; the president of Kaupthing Bank got 5 ½ years prison; former Prime Minister Geir H. Haarde was indicted.

Iceland decided to go it alone and focus on rebuilding her devastated real economy. The results are quite opposite the results in the EU where the brutal IMF and ECB and EU austerity policies have turned a banking crisis into a major economic crisis across the EU.

dlpirl
dlpirl

I’m glad Benjamin is giving some credence to the concern over Paypal’s claims to copyright of intellectual property on sites where PP is used as the payment / donation portal.

Whether one loves or hates Infowars, the direct quote from the new PP TOS is disconcerting to anybody producing creative works — particularly those maintaining alternative news blogs, which might quickly become a PP target. PP could, in theory, use their copyright claims to shut down any website that uses their services.

As in the loss of so very many of our rights, this loss to our copyright ownership requires OUR CONSENT. We all have tolerated a lot to use various networks and services. This may be a good place for us to draw a line, and refuse to consent. From this line in the sand perhaps we can begin to reclaim ground we have lost.

mkddachs

I’m beginning to see where the Deagel report comes in. How else can they have a few ’smart growth zones’ where people are allowed to live. They plan to cull the US population from 319mm to 65mm by 2025.
Comment by intruth on April 28, 2015 @ 12:36 am
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My opinion on this is that Agenda 21 has hyjacked the direction that the earth was going anyway and that many of the mandates are from a natural direction once the population gets to a certain amount in a world – we have to work together at that point. So now instead of allowing us to work together as a world of people they bring in their NWO and twist or create it to let them control the outcome.. And mandate a limited population like it is the end of the earth if we don’t cut back. re: georgia guidestone and 500,000,000 people…

Melissa

I know this is not very clear but i am positive that others can build on this idea and make it more clear.

gillfinn
gillfinn

For those that think there are bigger issues than this, you may want to rethink anything being bigger.
Think about it, you’re taking at face value, something told to you since you were in your crib watching a planet mobile bounce over your head.

Your parents regurgitated their own programming as did mine and so there you have it, Star Wars and fiat currency, criminals in the highest places, endless lies, but the one thing none of us can possibly prove outside of learned trickery in the Jesuit school system with our PHDs and Masters of hocus pocus is that the dirt on which we live is round, traveling through space at 17,000+ mph and spinning at 1000 mph, yet all is peaceful and quiet.

Just is because it ‘feels’ that way, that’s how programming feels, comfortable. I’m not trying to alienate anyone and if this all turns out to be a great big lie, than why wouldn’t it? That’s the status quo, that’s our collective reality, there is no proving right or wrong, round or flat, there is just a one million pound elephant wedged into a question mark that we’ve assumed is nothing worth debating.

You’re right, what is there to debate about other than the question? There is no proving either way until truth becomes the norm as opposed to being the new fiction. But that still doesn’t make it less important. It’s our sandbox and we need to take it back, that’s what’s important. Now where are my toys?

mefredsr
mefredsr

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azure
azure

Sunday April 26, 2015

The Time is Now the Match is HOT!

It can now be reported that that U.S. Army Special Operations has identified 19,000 illegal offshore bank accounts tied to major worldwide crooked banks reference JPMorgan, Citibank, the Central Bank of Japan, Bank of America and notably the German Deutsche Bank.

We can now also divulge that the nation of Greece has already defaulted creating even more derivative debt for U.S. banking giant JPMorgan, which is currently facing major margin deficiencies aka naked written put and call options on every major foreign currency that are traded on worldwide exchanges.

Effectively what JPMorgan has been trying to do is eliminate all volatility from worldwide financial markets and use the premium collected on both sides of the box, and along with the Federal Reserve itself, bail out the European Central Bank (ECB).

Note: This ass backwards accounting will not work given the Deutsche Bank’s insolvency and lack of real credit.

Accounting lesson: Derivatives are NOT assets they ARE liabilities aka I.O.U.s between banks; they are debt instruments.

http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com/

gillfinn
gillfinn

Here is another live feed:
http://www.earthcam.com/world/ecuador/ecsa/?cam=exa_space
Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 11:15 pm
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Funny, before I checked out this link I could guess what the footage looked like and I didn’t guess it would be this bad. This isn’t even worth a ‘display’, who really buys this as the best they can do when they were supposedly broadcasting from the moon in 1969.
If john Glenn shot this footage with his film camera in the early 60s I’d be amazed but this is laughable. Oh well, it is what it is.

PT Barnum could do better though.

intruth
intruth

Comment by cornpoppin on April 27, 2015 @ 11:56 pm

I agree with Melissa – very interesting indeed.

rebecca
rebecca

Melissa, please scroll. Earth discussion here.
* * * * * * * *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlDMYyWPis

Hi, Jpm
Well, by golly, here are some CLOUDS MOVING! What is different about a camera a weather satellite uses and the one Apollo 17 used in the 70’s? (below)
Maybe there weren’t any clouds back then . . . 😉

from 28:15 – 28:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyCpWcg-kE&list=PLKDemYz7H5WdnDILP3euZNUAngwCwGQSp

mkddachs

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: Broadcast Interview (23 mins)

He discusses Greece and their debt and their situation with Russia and the ultimate effect it will have on Nato. Those that run Greece now are less willing to run their people into the ground to pay off hedge funds owners. This is a very straight forward way of looking at this problem.

He talks about how our government has never stood behind any of its treatys – he brings up all the treatys (all of them) with the Indians in this country and then expands it out to the world nations we have had dealings with.

He discusses the greed that is behind it all. It is very simple – greed – will break up the empire and hopefully that will happen.
Melissa

http://kingworldnews.com/dr-paul-craig-roberts-broadcast-interview-available-now-4-12-15/

intruth
intruth

While some of you BFC’ers are going down the flat earth rabbit hole, I decided to look at Agenda 21. I knew in general what is was but decided to go further.

MAKE VIRAL: AGENDA 21 CONSULTANT TELLS US THE FULL AGENDA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks3Rgw2D-vY

Eyeopening to say the least. For an overview I saw this one:

Agenda 21 For Dummies (9:31) – Excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOERWe0qX68

I’m beginning to see where the Deagel report comes in. How else can they have a few ‘smart growth zones’ where people are allowed to live. They plan to cull the US population from 319mm to 65mm by 2025.

secondlife
secondlife

This is just too funny…. start your Monday with a laugh! Enjoy while we wait. :o)

Monkey Drop Kicks A Guy Who Gave It The Finger

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/26/monkey-drop-kick_n_7148994.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

mkddachs

Comment by cornpoppin on April 27, 2015 @ 11:56 pm

wow yes very interesting

jpm9909
jpm9909

@ Comment by Rebecca on April 27, 2015 @ 10:40 am

“YESS! I watched as the scene rolled, my eyes fixed on the same area of cloud formations, looking for the least amount of movement or morphing. NONE. Some of that blue seemed like it was supposed to be the ocean with waves, but a line of “waves” stayed the same as the scene moved.
I saw no land mass. Did you? Crock.
Could it really be that difficult to take a REAL video. . . IF they were really up there? (no)”

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Hey Rebecca…

I think part of the problem in viewing those videos (I’m not a physicist but this is my understanding of the “physics” involved)… is that you have to take into consideration who FAST the satellites/shuttles/ISS are moving in orbit.

From that high up, orbiting as fast as they do – any “live” video wouldn’t have “time” enough to show the development of weather. And any “time-lapse” would have orbited past a specific spot before giving it enough footage to show weather develop like in land-based time-lapse videography.

As far as waves on the ocean go – I think it’s just “too high up” for the resolution to be that good to see from the “full-shot” in space. Now if someone has a weather satellite or other in orbit platform “zoomed in” on the ocean, I’m sure then you’d see the waves.

(all this is just my understanding/opinion). 🙂

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn

Updates are on Tuesdays now? 🙂

valtony
valtony

915

XL

Re: Comment by mkddachs on April 27, 2015 @ 11:29 pm
>I think we can go over board on this “everything we have
>been taught is a lie” theme. So then we end up having no
>foundation for reality. ( confuse the sheeple and watch
>them squirm under the implication )

I agree… I’ve mentioned it a few times, and while I agree that “nothing is as it seems”, it can get taken too far. This also applies for many things, while there may be a basis of truth you have to be careful you don’t get consumed with it (like seeing crisis actors “everywhere”).

For most situations, Occum’s Razor applies, the simplest explanation is most likely the right one. For example, there is tons of evidence proving a round earth, hundreds of years of study, and millions of people working on it. On the contrary, the flat-earth theory takes a lot of extravegant theories, explanations that are questionable, and only a handful of people subscribe to it.

Which one is simpler? Can you fake that HUGE amount of evidence, and fool millions(billions?) of people?

It is possible, but not likely.

While we are all living in a shared virtual reality, it is still “shared”. We are co-creating the same experience for all of us here at this time. There may be minor differences, but the main facts in this reality are still facts shared between us.

There are many things they are lying to us about the Earth, but the shape of it is not one of them.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Jade Helm Logo

has a transparent shoe in the center.

Interesting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaB7vyZbaMk

bcjams
bcjams

last

roytheboy
roytheboy

UKDena,

Not al all. I was responding to her earlier question.

Roy x

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by intruth on April 27, 2015 @ 6:19 am

Great day to you Intruth… I over generalized a bit, but I do ‘feel’ that Jim’s expression of getting into Gold, Silver and other Hard Assets, all though it of course makes sense… is limited to only thoughs who listen to him, or other financial advisors…

And everyone else is screwed.

Yes, take out what you need… convert what you can… but that doesn’t change the ‘winners’ of the rigged game…

Nor does it really change a damn thing… just BUYS more time for those who have wealth to begin with.

Anyway… I don’t wish to debate Jim Willie, since I do enjoy listening to him…

I just wanted to point out, what I ‘feel’ is a flaw in the whole scam to begin with.

Have a enjoyable day.

Be Well

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by belle3 on April 27, 2015 @ 8:54 am

I like your post…

I do ‘feel’ that sometimes I share my mind/body with something that frankly, isn’t at all a nice entity…

In fact, I have mentioned it several times here through the year that the voices in my head… well… sometimes, just aren’t me! 😯

Brother Michael (which by the way where is he) mentioned the concept of “Walk-Ins” that, well… are what they imply to be.

I could really get into the discussion of what I would call, ‘The Origin of A Thought’ but will just refrain for now and wait for Ben’s new post. 😉

Enjoy your day.

Be Well

mkddachs

Cfree,
I get upset and then get over it – I am not drinking the floride so my emotions come out and can be expressed. I like my anger that way.

Otherwise I am just a sheeple being manipulated.

Chip, this discussion of a flat earth is funny- what difference does it make except as a distraction from more important topics. I think we can go over board on this “everything we have been taught is a lie” theme. So then we end up having no foundation for reality. ( confuse the sheeple and watch them squirm under the implication )
XL, it seems since Patricia left there is less logic here. She was an anchor.
Thank you for bringing that back into the coversation.
Roy, I agree with you-seems a lot of misdirected anger at times

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 11:08 pm

I have to agree as well XL… there is footage taken from the ISS that shows something being shot from the earth towards, what looks to be some kind of UFO, and then the UFO bolts in a 90 degree angle at ultra high speed to avoid being hit.

I just will not accept that every single picture, or video taken from space towards earth is BS… but that’s just me! 😉

Have a great day.

K-Puppy

Regarding “ET” I suggest getting a video presentation by Douglas Dietrich titled Roswell and The Rising Sun

http://douglasdietrich.com/

It is a good foundation for understanding what was happening in 1947 with the Japanese and their Dirigibles.

The “Roswell Greys” were a psy-op to introduce alien life into popular culture.

Disclosure is really about true history and his information is priceless.

XL
XL

Re: Comment by gillfinn on April 27, 2015 @ 10:35 pm
>I’m curious why they call this an ‘experiment’ earth viewing camera.
>At this point, what’s experimental about any of this?

I think they intentionally keep it in the “experimental” stage so that they can take it offline at any time without any serious questions. If they make a commitment to provided an “official” feed, then they also have a commitment to maintain it indefinitely.

>Does NASA have the market cornered on providing images from space?

Yes, I think they do manage to dissuade other live feeds on purpose.

Here is one of the reasons why:

Nasa accused of cutting live ISS feed as ‘UFOs’ hover in sight: Conspiracy theorists claim space agency is hiding alien life

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2920426/Nasa-cuts-live-ISS-video-feed-UFO-hovers-sight-Conspiracy-theorists-claim-space-agency-hiding-alien-life.html

XL

Re: Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 27, 2015 @ 10:18 pm
>XL, i must disagree; hwever, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Disagree with what? She wished for a video feed from the ISS and I gave the link.

The controversy comes from Dubay insisting that there is only one video of space and it is just slightly manipulated and shown over and over.

Fact: There are thousands of hours of video footage from the Apollo missions, the ISS, the various shuttle missions, satellites, all available online.

He also claims that there is one photo of the Earth from space during the Apollo missions, and that is the same (the ONLY) picture that is shown over and over again, manipulated slightly.

Fact: There are thousands and thousands of photos taken during the Apollo missions, during the shuttle missions, from the ISS, from orbiting satellites. True, there is a surprising amount of literature produced using that iconic photo, I even had one when I was little, but by no means is it the only photo.

He also claims that you cannot enter Antartica, that is a military controlled zone.

Fact: I have a friend of mine that is in Antartica right now. There is nobody stopping anyone from landing on the Continent. The agreement he mentions is a multi-nation pact that no country “owns” that continent, it does not create a blockade.

He also claims that there is a no-fly zone over Antartica.

Fact: There are many flights over the continent daily. There are even companies that make a living off of tourist flights over the area.

THIS is what I’m talking about… Several people here are simply accepting what he is telling them as fact, without any investigation on their own part. It is easy information to find.

>Perspective is quite a cool thing…very unique to
>each of us and our pattern formers.

The vast majority of the evidence that is presented in the flat-earth arguments provided are based off of perception. What one sees as round, the other sees as flat. This evidence works in both ways. Believe what you want to believe.

What Dubay does have right is that there is a conspiracy to alter what you think and he explains how it is done. But how many people watching his videos realize that he is using those same techniques himself during those videos?

As a recurring theme, I’ve heard a lot of people state that “their eyes were opened” (or a similar phrase) after listening to him. Opened to what? He didn’t cover anything that we didn’t talk about here before a few times. Was it the way it was presented? Was it information that you didn’t know before? What?

Dang it! I’ve jumped back into this mudhole, after deciding to leave the fray… *sigh*

gillfinn
gillfinn

Maybe they could apply drone camera tech to the space stations and get a good picture. The drone images come in clear enough to see whatever it is they want to bomb and both are DOD operations.

gillfinn
gillfinn

I wish people would take the time to research this themselves, and stop taking everything Dubay says as gospel…
…Back to lurking.
Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
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Hey XL, I checked out the link to the site you posted, it’s in a blacked out transition phase right now.
I’m curious why they call this an ‘experiment’ earth viewing camera. At this point, what’s experimental about any of this? According to them we have thousands of satellites orbiting around the earth providing television, communications, radio, global positioning (GPS), why the strange terminology? Why can’t they have a simple feed providing constant, uninterrupted viewing, or as close to it as possible? All their attempts are feeble at best, along with their explanations.

They could easily enlist the help of the other supposed satellite operators and ask them to provide video feed to supplement NASA’s. Why not? Does NASA have the market cornered on providing images from space?
How about asking one of the pros out there like ‘Dish’, or DirectTV to provide a reality TV show of nothing but 24/7 space feed?

Sorry, but I’m just not buying their continued offerings of what they consider to be their best attempts. We’re way past this. I like how they pawn of some of the designs on the poor high school kids. LOL, the ‘HUNCH’ program, I got a hunch this thing won’t work so well.

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“The High Definition Earth Viewing (HDEV) experiment aboard the ISS was activated April 30, 2014. It is mounted on the External Payload Facility of the European Space Agency’s Columbus module.

This experiment includes several commercial HD video cameras aimed at the earth which are enclosed in a pressurized and temperature controlled housing. Video from these cameras is transmitted back to earth and also streamed live on this channel. While the experiment is operational, views will typically sequence though the different cameras.

Between camera switches, a gray and then black color slate will briefly appear. Since the ISS is in darkness during part of each orbit, the images will be dark at those times. During periods of loss of signal with the ground or when HDEV is not operating, a gray color slate or previously recorded video may be seen.

Analysis of this experiment will be conducted to assess the effects of the space environment on the equipment and video quality which may help decisions about cameras for future missions. High school students helped with the design of some of the HDEV components through the High Schools United with NASA to Create Hardware (HUNCH) program. Student teams will also help operate the experiment. To learn more about the HDEV experiment, visit here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/917.html

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

to be clear—-i think the earth is round—–just not a globe.
😉

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
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The earth is round 🙂
Comment by accuchip on April 27, 2015 @ 10:23 pm
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Oh thank you guru babachip. Now I must believe it!! hahahahahahaha

hiya Chip. Hope you are well and enjoying spring.
xxxx

accuchip
accuchip

Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
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The earth is round 🙂

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

my I-pad decided to leave off my last word to the sentence. The ladt word being “sense”. 🙂

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by XL on April 27, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
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XL, i must disagree; hwever, we are all entitled to our opinions. Perspective is quite a cool thing…very unique to each of us and our pattern formers.

My research does include Eric Dubay and many, many others, some of them going back to old creation stories.

Just for the record…. I don’t take anything anyone says as gospel. I have a very keen mind that I use for critical thinking AND a highly developed intuitive nature…..

IWhen, and if, enough viable evidence is presented I have the ability to change my opinions on nearly any matter if it passes the critical thinking and intuitive guidence.

It is clear to me we have been lied to about everthing. The so called rulers have gone to great lengths, and taken centuries to do it, to create illusions for the rest of us to believe that best serve “them”. I am unsure of their reasons other than money and power.

For me, the concept of a round earth is no longer anchored in my mind. I am now able for that concept to just be one of many possibilities.

It is much like being only able to see what we can touch and what is familiar to us….the physical world Then one day we catch sight of something new to our consciousness—a glimpse into the spirit world, or another dimension. Once we see that , and let it into our knowingness, we can’t go back to not seeing it.

The same happened for me with the round earth concept. Something clicked and I see other concepts now that make just as much, maybe more,

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Stefie444….
A lot of anger and indifference to the feelings of others on occasions.
Don’t get me wrong, none of us is perfect. We can all try harder but there is always a choice in what we say and how we say it.
Roy x
Comment by roytheboy on April 27, 2015 @ 9:35 pm
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❓ ❓ ❓
I certainly hope you are not referring to Steffie. If so you are way off base. I always see her as kind and a boon to the cafe.

XL

Re: Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 9:11 am
>Why can’t we have a simple Live Cam of the revolving
>earth ball as seen from the ISS? reb

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload

There are tons of videos available, and thousands and thousands of pictures of the Earth from space. There are charter cruises to all parts of Antarctica, and charter flights OVER Antarctica…

I wish people would take the time to research this themselves, and stop taking everything Dubay says as gospel…

…Back to lurking.

roytheboy
roytheboy

Stefie444….
A lot of anger and indifference to the feelings of others on occasions.

Don’t get me wrong, none of us is perfect. We can all try harder but there is always a choice in what we say and how we say it.

Roy x

intruth
intruth

Greece Debt Crisis Cannot Be Contained-Bill Holter

By Greg Hunter On April 26, 2015

https://youtu.be/QR9NAim3Ke4

http://usawatchdog.com/greece-debt-crisis-cannot-be-contained-bill-holter/

xander
xander

Azure, forgive me for being so abrupt. Definitely it’s my writing manner.

Here’s something you should like; I found it calming, uplifting & inspiring & beautiful visually:

The Pleiadian Message – A Wake Up Call For the Family of Light 26mins on YouTube

intruth
intruth

Rising Police Aggression A Telling Indicator Of Our Societal Decline

A historially common marker of failing civilizations
by Chris Martenson

Friday, April 24, 2015

My first Uber lift was in South Carolina. My driver was from Sudan originally, but had emigrated to the US 20 years ago. Being the curious sort, I asked him about his life in Sudan and why he moved. He said that he left when his country had crumbled too far, past the point where a reasonable person could have a reasonable expectation of personal safety, when all institutions had become corrupted making business increasingly difficult. So he left.

Detecting a hitch in his delivery when he spoke of coming to the US, I asked him how he felt about the US now, 20 years later. “To be honest,” he said, “the same things I saw in Sudan that led me to leave are happening here now. That saddens me greatly, because where else is there to go?”

It’s time to face some uncomfortable ideas about the state of civilization in the United States. This country is no longer the beacon of freedom illuminating a better way for the world. Why not? Because it has ceased to be civilized.

more – http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/92427/rising-police-aggression-telling-indicator-our-societal-decline
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I wonder if the people were as unaware of things when Roman empire fell, as the general population of Amerika is today.

intruth
intruth

Capital Controls Arrive: Greece Begins Confiscating Deposits Of “Small Debtors”

4/26/2015

“Soft” capital controls arrived in Greece last week with the state decree requiring local governments to transfer reserves to Athens. Now, Kathimerini reports that debtors are seeing their accounts frozen in an indication that “hard” capital controls are set to be instituted amid a deepening cash crunch.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-26/capital-controls-arrive-greece-begins-confiscating-deposits-small-debtors

intruth
intruth

Jim Stone – CERN

April 26 2015

Could Cern be responsible for recent disasters? Many people have written to me asking this. My answer is, For as long as it is used as originally designed and stated, NO. However . . . . . If a magnetic device the size of Cern was intentionally set up to synchronize all the individual fields in a destructive way, the answer is a solid YES. You could easily flip the earth’s magnetic poles (given enough time) and do all sorts of weird stuff.

I have also previously stated that DC power distribution lines could impact the planet as well, but these are not optimized even a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of a percent as well as Cern is, I really don’t know what the outcome would be for clandestine use of Cern, but obviously if that many magnetic fields of that magnitude were used in an abusive way I believe it would have dire consequences. read more at jimstone.is – http://82.221.129.208/

intruth
intruth

Comment by mozart on April 27, 2015 @ 7:28 am

Mozart, thanks for the explanation of Ra and Ra-Ta.

Re: your rant. I agree with everything you said and think many others do too. I don’t understand why the ET’s can’t at least negate some of the technology that is screwing with our minds (the towers), the chemtrails, and HAARP that is causing the Calif drought.

I see that they have done nothing to negate the genocides in Gaza and Ukraine, for example. So unfortunately, I don’t believe they will do anything if the cabal start using the 30,000 guillotines and bazillion rounds of hollow point bullets to take us out.

I am following Corey/GoodET over at http://www.jandean81.com thanks to one of your posts I think. He is supposed to have a major article coming out very soon. His descriptions of meetings that he is ‘required’ to attend are very difficult on him as he needs time to recuperate afterwards. So it appears the ET thing is a mixed bag.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Belle you rock

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

While we’re re imagining the cosmos

I will say

Veins act like tributaries,

rivers and arteries appear
like tree branches reaching out
the pattern recognition
of your veins
resemble the limbs of a tree

Now your looking at the the pattern of the time space continuum .

I love the electric -luminal pattern of the

lightening looks like rivers

We are Wave patterns-

Bio electric luminal beingS
SURFING this multidimenslong

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Comment by martha on April 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am
Hi Martha,
Could you fill me in on this, because I was not aware that this happened.
“she saw something strange..David Wilcock and someone else posting from the same computer.”
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This never happened, and is “Martha’s invention
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Comment by marhuff55 on April 27, 2015 @ 1:59 am
I ask, not because it has anything to do with DW, but for the reasoning behind how she could tell two people were using the same computer?
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Can’t be done unless your are “Master Hacker”
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Martin is being diplomatic,Martha

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calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I totally agree that Nasa space footage is suspect.

MY intuition tells me it is because we are being shielded from the the truth, of our cosmos…I can agree with that!

Yet extrapolating from that truth and jumping into a concept that it’s cube or flat earth.

Maybe we live on a great big purple cabbage in farmers field we have no concept of the farmer, We’re just one of the cabage head in row.

Who knows

Flatters and Platters

I’m in the the theme the Earth is counter-rotational

revolving while rotating, is toroidal element

of People and planets

Its like A dervish finding a center

cfree928
cfree928

I watched the Agenda 21 video and some of it makes sense but to have a few direct us – like they are herding cattle into pens, it just pisses me off.
Comment by mkddachs on April 27, 2015 @ 9:54 am
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Melissa, It really is about CONSENT
and don’t you forget it! OK?
You/We are not cattle? So stop the ‘pissed off’ stuff and join the “Watch Them Fail” club…and just DON’T CONSENT to what you don’t like right then and there in the moment…(.)

… especially to the attempted covering over or manipulation of our emotions or even our own thoughts!

I Always ask, when things get doubtful,… Is this my own thinking or just a suggestive implant of anger, indecisiveness or some implanted sociopathic urge to tempt me to do ugly behavior?

Please…PLEASE… my friends and FAMILY,
Do and OWN Your Own Thinking!

Sorry for the rant!

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

A shared experience…..

Hawaii Free Press
Thursday, April 23, 2015

London Times: Jones Act ‘Key Bargaining Chip’ in Trans-Atlantic Trade Negotiations

By Selected News Articles @ 3:46 AM :: 253 Views :: Jones Act

American barriers mean Europe still waits for its ship to come in
by Alexandra Frean, The Times of London, April 21, 2015 (excerpts)

The 1920 Jones Act requires that all goods transported by water between US ports be carried on US-flagged ships, constructed in the US and owned and crewed by US citizens.

In a bizarre twist, that 95-year-old law has become a key bargaining chip in one of the world’s largest trade accords and it could affect the price you pay for the Florida orange juice on your breakfast table.

The Jones Act has been highly effective in shielding American shipping businesses from foreign competition, which is why it is so popular with shippers and trade unions. The Transportation Institute, a Washington-based maritime lobby group, credits it with supporting 73,787 American jobs, plus another 425,889 from indirect and induced employment.

Yet it has also produced some odd incentives, making it necessary for Florida to import coal from Colombia instead of American mines or for Maryland and Virginia to bring in road salt from Chile rather than Ohio, according to the non-profitable Capital Research Centre. And considering that the world’s top ten shipbuilders are based in Japan, South Korea and China, you have to wonder how well the Jones Act mission of protecting the nation’s shipbuilding industry is working for America.

In addition, the law is unpopular with free trade advocates, who quite rightly complain that it increases the price of goods to American consumers, particularly those living in offshore states and territories such Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Guam.

And it is heartily disliked by John Cridland, director-general of the CBI in Britain. “Why,” he asks, “shouldn’t a British or French-badged ship have the same rights as an American ship?” He has a point. Under the Jones Act, if a British, French or German-flagged ship bringing imports to New York from Europe wants to load up in, say, Boston for the return journey across the Atlantic, it cannot ship anything on the New York-to-Boston leg.

At present, Mr Cridland is busy talking about the Jones Act to any American who will listen. He regards it as central to the potentially world-changing negotiations taking place on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, known as TTIP, which aims to open up trade between the European Union and the United States by removing tariffs and reducing regulatory barriers. The governments in both London and Washington are pushing for completion of the TTIP, which will create a single market of 800 million consumers, boosting trade and jobs….

Last week, in an unlikely alliance between the president and free trade Republicans, senators agreed the wording of a Trade Promotion Authority bill that would give politicians the power to “fast track” trade deals by allowing Congress to approve or reject, but not alter, any treaty.

If Congress passes this, America can start to finalise the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an equally ambitious tree trade agreement with 11 other Pacific Rim countries, not including China, that is ahead of the TTIP on President Obama’s to-do list….

All of which brings us back to the Jones Act. The likelihood of America repealing it or watering it down seem, if anything, to be receding….

read … The Times

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Re: Shipping

Hawaii recently received shipment from Brazil in THEIR containers. Upon arrival, several invasive species spider was found. Hawaii notified Brazil of the problem and said they were sending the containers back, to wit: Brazil said not until Hawaii fumigated the containers.

How do you like them “spiders”? Did Brazil fumigate the containers before shipping to Hawaii? Now Brazil wants Hawaii to pay for the cost of fumigating their containers.

Is this the future of Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, known as TTIP, and Trans-Pacific Partnership “free trade” Hawaii will be dealing with?

Now the consumer has to double check their purchases for the “eggs” that come before they are “spiders”. Answers the question of which came first the spider or the eggs.

You don’t get to be brave unless there is scary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To be fair here is another shared experience article about “carelessness”….

Anti-Telescope Protesters Bring Invasive Ant Species to Mountain, Weiku Bug Threatened

SA: During a cursory survey of the protest area around April 16, ants that are common at lower elevations but haven’t gained a foothold on Mauna Kea’s heights were discovered in a pile of palms that was being used to thatch a hale across from the visitor information station at about 9,400 feet, Klasner said. (Did they build that without an EIS???)

Klasner said six of the little black critters known as Ochetellus glaber were collected and others were observed.

“We’re concerned about the ecosystem, and we’re following through with the mandate of the state to have an invasive species management plan,” Klasner said….

“Eventually, that just not only wipes out the (other) insects, but the native plant pollinators. You lose birds, you could lose plants,” he said.

Of particular concern is the wekiu bug that’s endemic to the upper reaches of Mauna Kea, Klasner said.

He said Mauna Kea is somewhat unique in that it is free of ants.

“Most everywhere else in the state, ants have become established,” he said.

The best way to move ants around is in vegetation, ”

read … Invasive ants found at protest site

Malama pono,

Momi

stefie444
stefie444

…. I meant we are ALL going to make it to the other side of this together – each of us have done things to make it happen. No matter how small it may seem…. a little smile, a helping hand, planting flowers and food, making someone laugh, sharing love in all kinds of ways every day. We don’t have to be on the front lines so to speak to make the shift happen.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by mozart on April 27, 2015 @ 9:22 am

mozart, Actually I want to say I truly appreciated your rant and often feel I could say things like that. Thank goodness there’s a way to get it out and it feels good to see it in writing. I feel your pain. We’re going to make it together – light & blessings to you.

Edge
Edge

Washington is out of control— so do not be surprised to
wake up some morning, in the near future to a ‘nasty war’–
I wish it was not so–
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Washington Choreographing All-out War With Russia?
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Guest Contributor: Finian Cunningham
Published On: Sun, Apr 26th, 2015—
Reckless American leaders are putting in place incendiary elements that heighten the risk of all-out war with Russia.

For several weeks now the Ukrainian self-defense militia in the breakaway eastern Donbas region have been warning that the US-backed Kiev regime is readying to break a fragile ceasefire and resume its offensive.

The refusal, as mandated by the truce, to fully withdraw heavy artillery and the ongoing practice of live-fire drills near the conflict zone are evidences cited.

With the reported arrival of 300 American paratroopers in Ukraine collaborating with Kiev’s Neo-Nazi National Guard brigades – the worst offenders over the past year’s fighting in eastern Ukraine – that development is an alarming harbinger of imminent conflict.

The Minsk ceasefire – brokered by Russia, Germany and France – has up to this moment held for over two months.

Given the Kiev regime’s past breach of previous ceasefires, the duration of the truce signed on February 12 surprised many. But now it seems the levee is about to burst ushering more violence in the region.

Of utmost concern is that the US military forces have reportedly moved into the Donetsk region near the conflict zone.

The arrival of the US troops was already described by Moscow as a breach of the Minsk ceasefire. Bad enough was that the Americans were supposed to conduct their military exercises in the far west of the country, near the city of Lviv.

Inexplicably, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, US troops belonging to the 173rd Airborne Brigade have taken up “training” positions in Donetsk only 20-30 kilometres from the conflict zone.

Those positions include the towns of Artemivsk, Severodonetsk and Volnovakha.

Moreover, the military training given by the Americans to their charges include the use of US-made weapons, not the usual Soviet-style munitions that the Ukrainian Armed Forces traditionally use.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich notes that the mode of training indicates that Washington is preparing to fulfil its promises of supplying lethal weapons to the Kiev regime.

The disturbing upshot of the ceasefire breaking in eastern Ukraine is that this time around the United States will be an overt participant in any renewed war.

Not only the US, but two other closely aligned members of the NATO alliance – Canada and Britain.

Nearly 600 troops from these three countries are in place acting as “military advisers” and providing weapons training to Kiev’s forces.

If the shaky Minsk ceasefire collapses, as many fear it might, then the situation has American, Canadian and British military boots on the ground and on the side of the Kiev regime. There is no equivocation about it.

These NATO members will then be overtly at war in Ukraine fighting for a Neo-Nazi regime that has been responsible for 6,000 deaths over the past year in its wanton offensive on the Russian-speaking people of Donetsk and Luhansk.

That new situation will have dispelled the pretense of Washington and its allies “only” providing indirect support to Kiev. For these Western powers will be at war – officially.

The combined factors in this equation do not bode well. US and NATO troops on the ground in eastern Ukraine working with Neo-Nazi paramilitaries– plus renewed audacious media attempts to criminalize Russia.

That array of factors equals a return to all-out war, this time with NATO openly participating. The provocation to Russia has to be seen in the wider even more troubling context of American-led NATO build-up of troops, warplanes, warships and missiles across Eastern Europe –
and all pointed at Russia.

This begs the conclusion of Washington choreographing events for an all-out war with Russia.

And given the decrepit, crumbling state of America’s global empire and its bankrupt capitalist economy, the motive for such a war begins to look compelling.

Unless, of course, the American people and the rest of the world can somehow unite –– and abolish the out-of-control regime in Washington.
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http://thenewsdoctors.com/washington-choreographing-all-out-war-with-russia/

jgrinst1
jgrinst1

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 11:12 am

I loved that! that was great… thanks Uk Den A

Grinner

mkddachs

lucy,

That was a good one – If that was my daughter I would be encouraging her to quit and creating her own job based on
what she loves the most. I would support her in the process.

That is what I did for my daughter who now lives in Germany and is doing exactly what she wants and loves it. Some folks need to go thru a unhappy stage to finally realize who and what they want.

We all have to decide what direction we will go. I just can’t imagine being in that kind of situation any more.
Melissa

getem
getem

This report is in the news in LSM Australia today! I hope this goes viral. I didn’t really think Hitlary had much hope of being voted as President, this is more nails in her coffin. When they start throwing each other to the wolves there really is something big happening it would seem.

Don’t know that their suggestion for an alternative to Hitlary will be received terribly well though.

Rhonda

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/hillary-on-the-brink-of-collapse/story-fn5tas5k-1227322729806?from=public_js

lucybean
lucybean
rebecca
rebecca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG90YYHCSeA

jpn, Rebecca,

What bugs me most about this supposed view from ISS is…why do they have the solar collectors turned away from the sun? One would think that they would want every photon collected when in solar view. The next thing is that I didn’t see a sliver of earth, just sea and clouds…supposedly for nearly 1/3 orbit. It is just composit BS lies, that video IMHO.

Comment by cfree928 on April 26, 2015 @ 10:55 am
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Crfree,
YESS! I watched as the scene rolled, my eyes fixed on the same area of cloud formations, looking for the least amount of movement or morphing. NONE. Some of that blue seemed like it was supposed to be the ocean with waves, but a line of “waves” stayed the same as the scene moved.
I saw no land mass. Did you? Crock.
Could it really be that difficult to take a REAL video. . . IF they were really up there? (no)

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Sorry for all my cussing and negativity with my last rant.

Ugh. Sorry.

*sigh*”
Comment by mozart on April 27, 2015 @ 9:22 am

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Mozart, okaaaaay, sigh, I will forgive you this time……..

hahahahahahaha

We all get discouraged bro, then we remember who we are and carry on.

xoxo

mkddachs

Limits on Obama’s Flying Killer Robots?12 mins
LiberalViewer

Published on Feb 23, 2013
Limits on drone strikes that can kill virtually anyone, anywhere?
More ACLU related videos at http://bit.ly/oqoPgz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CIY8m8XlGI

mkddachs

Comment by intruth on April 27, 2015 @ 7:47 am

Intruth,

I watched the Agenda 21 video and some of it makes sense but to have a few direct us – like they are herding cattle into pens, it just pisses me off.

In Texas there is another fight to label GMO’s so I will get behind that and the fluoride fight in Austin. Its time.

thank you for all your contributions – I was limited in my ability and time to watch many of the videos in the past month but it doesn’t take watching most of them to get the jest. Since we have seen so much of this before.
melissa

mkddachs

Comment by mozart on April 27, 2015 @ 9:22 am

Mozart,
You are expressing much of what I have felt in the past. Some of that may be chemical reactions in your body. When there is a lack of magnesium in the body it can trigger negativity and depression.

But also there is so much stress to deal with in our environment – I feel lucky that I can watch my baby dachshunds play. They are so much fun. Lately my husband and I have been going to different trails in the area and walking a few at a time. Very good for taking the mind off of some of the crap in life. That was a lesson I learned from you when you went on in length about your blackberrys and your dams to revitalize some land in your area.

Thank you for that.
Melissa

mkddachs

cp I remember that – it was a shock to the world to not be able to trust being paid in gold or what looked like gold. How can those countrys expect to hold onto our land with the attitude being so negative toward China??

the great majority here do not want China owning anything substantial – our parks, our mines, our land marks for very long. we are still the majority in this country. So I would think they will take what they can of our assets out of the country just like we did during the first and second world wars. This is called Karma and we will get as good as we have given but the Chinese are just as guilty – there is alot of blame to go around and I would imagine we have been giving it to each other for some time.

We will just have to see what happens – there may not be much choice in the end except acceptance of the situation.

Right now there is alot of fear and concern over our world changing – change happens, but if you can help others close to you, you should and hopefully others will help you..
Some of us won’t make it – that is life.
Melissa

carolm
carolm

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 27, 2015 @ 8:08 am

Hi Ukdena,
I don’t remember your negativity, your posts are always full of your big beating heart. I hope to see you one day.

Thank you!

valtony
valtony

end

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

When the Clinton administration paid it’s debts with tungsten China required real goods like metals to repay the debt.

My guess is that when America cannot pay it’s debt with fiat dollars it is time for rejoicing for that country

because they can be paid in metals and land instead of monopoly money.

mozart
mozart

Y’all

Sorry for all my cussing and negativity with my last rant.

Ugh. Sorry.

*sigh*

mkddachs

Ron Paul: Obama ‘literally assassinated’ Americans in airstrikes
Former presidential candidate and Texas congressman Ron Paul (R) is criticizing President Obama for the “targeted assassination” of Americans in al Qaeda

Former presidential candidate and Texas congressman Ron Paul (R) is criticizing President Obama for the “targeted assassination” of Americans in al Qaeda.

While Obama apologized Thursday for airstrikes that killed two hostages, American Warren Weinstein and Italian Giovanni Lo Porto, Paul said the media should be paying more attention to the two American terrorism suspects who were killed.

“There were other people killed, but you won’t read about it in the media I’m quite sure because they were two Americans who had joined al-Qaeda, so they are automatically very bad people,” he said during the “Ron Paul Liberty Report,” which was posted to YouTube.

“Being an American citizen means nothing in this day and age of no law and order so they were literally assassinated, this was a targeted assassination of Americans because they were doing something we didn’t want them to do.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/240033-ron-paul-obama-literally-assassinated-americans-in-air-strikes

mkddachs

Following Obama’s Lead, Frat Boys Disrespect Disabled Vets
Frat boys treat veterans like garbage, just like Obama admin

University of Florida fraternity members reportedly harassed and disrespected disabled veterans at a Panama City Beach, Fla., resort last weekend, behavior that’s typically associated with the Obama administration.

The fraternity members were attending the Zeta Beta Tau spring formal at the Laketown Wharf Resort when they allegedly assaulted veterans at the nearby Warrior Beach Retreat by spitting on them, throwing beer bottles at them, and ripping flags and signs off their cars….

let’s not forget it was President Obama who decided to erect barricades around D.C. war memorials, which are outdoor architectural structures in public parks with no official entrance, to prevent veterans from visiting them during the 2013 government shutdown.

The disrespect the frat boys showed to the veterans follows this long-term trend set by the Obama administration.

..“Once you start looking into how this country really treats military veterans, it becomes easier to understand why 22 military veterans commit suicide in America every single day,” Michael Snyder wrote. “Our vets have a higher rate of unemployment, a higher rate of poverty, a higher rate of homelessness, a higher rate of depression and a higher rate of divorce then the general population.”

http://www.infowars.com/following-obamas-lead-frat-boys-disrespect-disabled-vets/

mkddachs

Obama Urges Saudi Dictator Abdulaziz to Keep Attacking Yemen
Dishonestly refer to the Houthis as an Iran “proxy”

Obama expressed his desire for Saudi dictator Abdulaziz to continue his illegal assault on Yemen, “pushing for a continuation of the war” and announcing, mafia-like, that “the job is not done”.

The dictator has complied, carrying out further attacks on the impoverished and starved country, with a Saudi Prince announcing that he will reward the terrorists physically carrying out the bombings with Bentleys, a brand of ultra-luxury automobile….

…Obama yesterday executed seven innocent people in Yemen with one of his “Hell Fire” devices (innocent if “innocent until proven guilty” still matters to anyone). Obama has been bombing Yemen throughout his time in power, one part of what the world’s most cited scholar, Noam Chomsky, has called “the most extreme campaign of terror of modern times”, Obama’s global execution-by-robot operation….

In reality, as Antiwar.com and others have noted, it is the Saudis who are a US proxy, illegally attacking an entirely domestic movement, as the US has done over and again around the world as it seeks to dominate.

http://www.empireslayer.org/2015/04/obama-urges-saudi-dictator-abdulaziz-to.html#sthash.on1Xb0Gi.dpuf

mkddachs

more….
Although the frequency of drone attacks has tapered off lately, they have been the Obama administration’s principal anti-terror weapon. During Obama’s first year in office alone, the U.S. conducted more drone strikes than in the entire eight years of George W. Bush’s presidency. Given military budget constraints, Obama’s successor will likely operate a similar policy. So the time to thrash out the ethics is now.

mkddachs

Obama’s Orwellian Language on Drones
Tradeoff involved is profoundly troubling

There is an eerie Orwellian cost to the Obama administration’s refusal to use the term “War on Terror” to describe its … war on terror. In his briefing after the White House’s admission that two hostages — one American, one Italian — were killed in a U.S. “operation,” press secretary Josh Earnest struggled mightily to avoid the word “war” to describe exactly what the U.S.is up to. Finally he gave in and stated that under the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, the nation is “at war” with al Qaeda….

Why do the words matter? Because the inevitability of civilian casualties, even in the most justified of wars, is accepted both in international law and in the ethics of war. Civilian casualties are never good. They are a tragedy, a terrible cost that must be avoided whenever possible. But in wars, they happen…..

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-04-23/obama-s-orwellian-language-on-drones

belle3
belle3

Caleb: ;). Thanks for not taking cafe back down there.

I think many see the truth of manipulations and charades and distractions, and this is eye opening enough. Your style of teaching when you write works for a lot of us. Many have this talent/gift here at BFC, and it is very enjoyable to read. Thanks again

I have seen difference when people have been chipped–the before and after. Not in the least recognizable in personalities. Are we all chipped, and they just turn on something? At times, I feel it would be so much easier to not take responsibility, but–also that forgiveness is tough, as I have been on both sides, as we all have.

I can’t use the excuse in my mind of “I can forgive but not forget”. That doesn’t work either anymore, and that’s a tough one as the poison is still there. It just destroys your body with fear…The Fear!!

Also have read, this is why all other Golden Ages failed, we are in the 7th? And final. (Where do we go from here? Really, where do we go from here?). The People disagreed about bs of everyday life, and fought amongst theirselves and would never let it go. We had answers already, just as we do now.

We were responsible, not the evil guys. They just played us, the cablabozos moved in and manipulated, distorted, and played us against each other. It was too easy…

I don’t want to,preach on such a beautiful, sunny day outside, but I guess I have. Thanks for reading, I don’t have a lot of that talent, so you guys have to keep teaching me.

“My intent here is not to shape others, But to be authentic causing others to grow–not toward us, but toward the light that moves through us.”
Mark Nepo

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Wovo: Thanks for great article. I will dig into it later also, as fresh air and nature are calling.

Santi

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by mefredsr on April 27, 2015 @ 7:13 am

I don’t know anything about Irish history and whilst I understand Tsarion has written an excellent book on Irish history, I haven’ read it nor watched his YT interviews. I’ve heard that Tsarion picked up a lot of information from Andrew Power, the author of “Ireland, Land of the Pharoahs”, having spent much time in Power’s Dublin bookshop in his youth.

I have it on good authority that Power’s book is really, really good but I don’t have the time to read that now. But you can download it for free from a number of websites.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“…Where I end up is that one can live on a flat earth or a hollow earth, or a spore earth. There is illusion and there is an inner truth to each. All we really have is our curiosity and discernment, and those come from within.

We are all blind men trying to describe the elephant from our unique point of view.”
Comment by carolm on April 27, 2015 @ 7:56 am
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I always love your posts Carol. You have a great mind and you aren’t afraid to use it. You always go beyond the apparent and enter realms of mysticism…..a place that I too am quite comfortable…

xoxo

carolm
carolm

More thoughts on dimensions…

When one understands crop circles to be flat symbols depicting a 3-D message, they suddenly begin to communicate much more clearly as dates, or events that have to do with alignments. It all has to do with your point of view; on the surface vs. out in space.

In mathematics, there is a term of ‘flatlanders’, for those who inhabit a two dimensional reality. It is an abstract term used to help one begin to think from the point of view of a two dimensional surface, which is difficult for a person who only experiences life as three dimensions to do. It is a very useful exercise to help wrap ones mind around certain limits and rules.

Written language is similar in how it can flatten ideas down to shapes on a surface that can be communicated to others. People that have a hard time flattening three dimensions down to two are called ‘dyslexic’, and taught remedially how to read. A person with three-dimensional (or more!) ideas can have a hard time seeing flat symbols has having meaning in some cases.

I see geometry as very plastic and alive. Branes (membranes) warping and folding and morphing from one scale into others, just as life and consciousness does.

When I was a kid, I had an image of consciousness that was two parallel planes in space. The top plane had lots of little funnel shapes that touched down in points on the other plane. Each point of touch down, was the point of view of each person. When looking out from their eyes, they saw there was space between each separate person. But, if they could have turned their eyes around, they could have seen that all their minds connected to the same gigantic field. By the same token, anyone looking around on the earth sees a flat surface with lots of separate people running around on it. You can only see so far in any direction.

BUT, depending on which way you look, and what you look at is how your experience unfolds. For those of you who have used a mac computer, think of the bar at the bottom or the side. As you scroll over it, each function (or app) gets bigger and unfolds on an intention. We can look through a telescope and see the dimensionality of space unfold, or through a microscope and see the structure of the very small unfold. Just like the mushroom man pointed out, it all looks very similar no matter which way you look. Spores become filaments become structure, etc. etc.

Where I end up is that one can live on a flat earth or a hollow earth, or a spore earth. There is illusion and there is an inner truth to each. All we really have is our curiosity and discernment, and those come from within.

We are all blind men trying to describe the elephant from our unique point of view.

azure
azure

Thanks Carolm, it was just posted on another site and presented as current. Thanks for catching that.

carolm
carolm

http://templeton01436.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-fall-of-babylon-by-benjamin
Comment by azure on April 27, 2015 @ 6:01 am

Azure,
That is a pretty old report: The Fall Of Babylon
By Benjamin Fulford
12-17-8

intruth
intruth

MAKE VIRAL: AGENDA 21 CONSULTANT TELLS US THE FULL AGENDA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks3Rgw2D-vY

Published on Apr 26, 2015

Please share this video. There are things that were said in this meeting that I have never been able to catch on camera before.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

….”Ive been clean and sober for 19 years…..lots of meetings also,my favorite is a soup kitchen meeting……..”
Comment by wolfintimber on April 27, 2015 @ 7:18 am

Bro wolf, I know you are sober/clean. I’ve been keeping my eye on you here in the cafe. 🙂 D. Wilcock too.

I too am really knowledgeable about the history of the program, the founders etc, read all the books, get the mag. etc. etc.

Good deal for a former loser like meself. heehee.
xxxx

mozart
mozart

“Edgar Cayce claimed to be the reincarnation of Ra.”

Comment by martha on April 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am
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Hi Martha~

No, Cayce is not the reincarnation of the Ra of Egypt; Cayce is the reincarnation of Ra-Ta, who was a key leader in Egypt who was contacted by the Ra Social Memory Complex, of the Ra Material.

It was Ra who introduced a number of technologies, amongst which was the “Eye of Ra” that originally represented the third eye, but that symbol was twisted by the dark ones back then into symbolizing their own powers of all-seeing control/manipulation of the masses of Earth.

The Ra Social Memory Complex admitted that it made a huge mistake introducing advanced thought/technology that had been taken by the elites of Egypt (over the objections of Ra-Ta) for their own gain, rather than sharing it freely amongst the people in Egypt.

So, in other words, Ra inadvertently created the Illoonynaughties as we know them today; hence, Ra has some serious karma to balance out to help us defeat the same M-F’ers.

Ra waited nearly 10,000 years before once again making direct contact with humans via Carla/Jim/Don in creating the Ra Material.

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About the Prime Directive of the Positive ETs

Yes, the positive ETs have their doctrine/principle of Non-Intervention and Prime Directive (the 1st Law of Distortion, otherwise known as the Law of Free Will); however, they can and will intervene with events on Earth in order to keep a balance of life/events on Earth to not allow too much of a tilt towards the positive or negative.

But, a BIG BUT … the positive ETs can and do make contact with those who invite them and give them express permission to make contact with the individuals. It all depends on how beneficial to the individual and world that any such contact would be made.

The positive ETs have intervened MANY MANY TIMES in our history, including many recent events.

I have no proof of any of the assertions that I’m making here, unfortunately, but I’m certain of the understanding that the positive ETs having clamped down on our solar system in turning it into a “jar”, stopping any and all traffic/communications of ALL negative ETs from leaving/entering our solar system.

I have no doubt that this is the case.

And I have no doubt that the positive ETs are stopping the goddamn Cabal from escaping Earth in any craft of any kind.

And I’m also certain that the positive ETs have prevented/stopped numerous (many dozens) of nasty, nasty events that were planned/attempted by the goddamn, effing Cabal to damage people everywhere — events that would have made the 9/11 event a walk in the park by comparison.

But even with all that awareness, I’m still utterly, completely beyond frustrated with the stupid events that are happening now, especially with the goddamn Jade Helm event that does not appear to be any sort of attack on the Cabal in America.

The opposite seems to be happening — attacking the people in America.

Yet, the vast majority of Americans just carry on, unawakened, still. SMH

Just what the flying f-k is it going to take to really, finally wake up the masses before the goddamn Cabal really takes us out via a massive, coordinated operation, like with Jade Helm?

You can bet that the “authorities” are vastly more coordinated, armed and prepared for armed conflict here in America in taking us out, than us 99%ers in any sort of armed conflict against the “authorities.”

I’ve completely lost faith in the masses of humanity, especially Americans, so I don’t know what to do at this point, other than be f-k’n frustrated as hell with the shiat going on.

The only way that I can see us people really stopping the Cabal on a strictly physical/human level without ET intervention is to absolutely, utterly overwhelm the all the local sheriffs, city cop shops, the state police, the respective highway patrols, etc with MASSIVE NUMBERS of us surrounding and flooding into their offices/buildings and just fk’n take over, arresting most/all of the damn cops, sheriffs and an badged “officer” of the state at any level.

But what are the odds of that happening nationwide? Nah. Ain’t gonna happen.

Hey, as I’m typing this out, with my hearing aid on, I can hear guns going off — some local red necks are target-shooting as I type this out, lol.

And I’m even frustrated with the positive ETs with their insistence in remaining behind the scenes, rather than intervening a damn bit more.

Come-on, positive ETs! You know damn well that the technologies of the negative ETs have been used to maim/kill many millions of people here on Earth — tell me, positive ETs … HOW MUCH GODDAMN WORSE ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THE SHIT TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE GODDAMN CABAL IS FINALLY DEFEATED AND HUMANITY IS FREED?

Really, positive ETs?! *******WTF?!*******

So, here I am … effing mad at the Cabal, at the dumb-assed peons of America, at the police state, at the positive ETs and at myself for being so goddamn, hopping frustrated with all of this shiat going on with my inability to really DO SOMETHING effective to effect change.

Sorry for my rant.

**sigh**

mefredsr
mefredsr

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 27, 2015 @ 6:53 am

“I met lots and lots of lawyers who wanted the same things I wanted. They were the ones who changed and grew spiritually. Without fail everyone one of them said that as lawyers (before they changed) they lied, cheated, and used lawyer tricks etc. etc. to make money and gain some sort of power. They all felt shame and remorse for the lives they had ruined…..but that was “the lawyer” scam.”

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1845: The British Monarch and Pope secretly agree to undermine the American System of government via the Treaty of Verona. The British Monarch breaches the Treaty of Ghent and both the Pope and the King secretly breach their trust as International Trustees.

They set out on a covert action and issued Letters of Marque and Reprisal to the members of the Bar Associations, allowing them to act as Foreign Agents on American soil and as privateers free to plunder American commerce.

Note, This Treaty of Verona was the reason for the original 13th amendment. I said original because after the complete takeover of the White House, they changed it (the new one was never ratified by the States)

NOTE: All Bar Association licenses are extinguished.

By order of Pope Francis, all attorneys, all clerks, every member of the judicial system operating these frauds and oppressions became 100% individually and commercially liable as of September 1, 2013.

http://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2015/04/08/by-order-of-pope-francis-all-bar-association-licenses-are-extinguished/

valtony
valtony

Good news for tomorrow?

wolfintimber

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 27, 2015 @ 6:53 am

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32 years clean and sober…..

staying clean and achieving the dream…..

Excellent works ukdenadreamer…..staying clean and achieving the denadreamer…..hahahahaha…..

Ive been clean and sober for 19 years…..lots of meetings also,my favorite is a soup kitchen meeting…..

bobb Gibson and bill Wilson are a couple of my heroes for sure…..

bill Wilson was controversial to some early aa peoples,like in new york by the looks of it…..and hes a founder…..
bill liked nicotinic acid for sure,and is good friends with abram hoffer…..

bill has a very large mind for sure,looking at his picture at the soup kitchen meeting I always sense hes makes himself easily accessible for any of us who want to communicate with him…..

aa,some real juice in the big book and 12 by 12 etc…..

no need to be a dry drunk maddog-hahahahaha,spirit quest is a remedy to anything…..

Namaste…..

mefredsr
mefredsr

Comment by anonymous on April 27, 2015 @ 5:20 am

“The Bible is an Irish book of pre-Roman times and an out and out theft without acknowledgment from the Irish Church of IESA.”
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I’m reading a book by Michael Tsarion. He is auguring what you are saying. But he also states that Jesus is a factious character. The mediums and psychics I read in today’s web pages all/most mention messages from Jesus. Was there a character in the Irish Druid (christen) religion that was Jesus like?

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“Not all of us are Buddists”
Comment by azure on April 27, 2015 @ 5:56 am
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We’re not????

hahaha just kiddin.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1MVx3RQ2c&app=desktop

Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 4:03 am
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Deester, thanks for this link “Full Length Wolfgang Halbig v. Sandy Hook FOI Comm”

I am about half way through and wanted to make some comments. If I waited until the end I would have forgotten the first half comments 🙂

Wolfgang is doing a good job, his lawyer is too. The Police Chief has only been there for several minutes and it is so obvious the guy is lying, fudging and skirting questions. His face and neck became pretty red and his body language is a dead give away.

The little weasel lawyer is a punk. He is using every legalese trick in the book to confuse everyone.

I have known LOTS of lawyers, very shameful profession. No one here will be surprised by what I will say about lawyers.

I got sober/clean in a 12-Step program 32 years ago. I went to a meeting every day for 30+ years. Lots of people that go there go to get the judge off of their backs, their family off their back, to learn how to drink w/o getting drunk (hahaha won’t happen if you are an alcoholic) or to stay out of jail. Many folks, like myself, wanted more out of life. I was told early on I had to do a thorough soul searching/self examination and be willing to change every thing about myself with spiritual help.

I met lots and lots of lawyers who wanted the same things I wanted. They were the ones who changed and grew spiritually. Without fail everyone one of them said that as lawyers (before they changed) they lied, cheated, and used lawyer tricks etc. etc. to make money and gain some sort of power. They all felt shame and remorse for the lives they had ruined…..but that was “the lawyer” scam.

Little weasel man lawyer is using the tricks the sober lawyers spoke of. So obvious. His jaw muscles are tight. A couple of times I thought the vein over his right temple was going to explode.

back to the vid.

truth1977
truth1977

Great article…

A Guide to Conscious Social Activism: Navigating The Future

http://www.consciouslifestylemag.com/conscious-social-activism/

Visionary author Andrew Beath explains how the current social activism movement can evolve into a more conscious form in order and create lasting change.

intruth
intruth

Jim Stone

April 26 2015

Earthquake in Nepal now confirmed man made.

read more at jimstone.is – http://82.221.129.208/

intruth
intruth

So I have been listening to Jim Willie… love the guys intensity…
However… my biggest beef with all he expresses…
Is that if you don’t go into hard assets like Gold and Silver… you are fucked! 🙁

That doesn’t ring true to me…
I mean only the ‘privileged’ are privy to the knowledge to do so… have the ability and financial acumen to do so…
And so the ‘haves’ will just continue to HAVE and all else will be up shit’s creek without a paddle, AGAIN!
Comment by secondlife on April 27, 2015 @ 4:04 am
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I have to disagree SL. Jim and soooo many others are telling the average Joe that wants to listen, to accumulate some gold/silver coins or other hard assets, instead of having savings in USD so they DON’T take the financial hit. This isn’t hard to do and is quite simple.

intruth
intruth

Types of drills and exercises for SHEEP – oops, I mean HSEEP, on page 76. Evacuating a sports stadium makes one wonder if there is going to be a false flag at a sporting event. It makes sense, considering sports have replaced religion.
http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Evacuation%20Planning%20Guide%20for%20Stadiums.pdf
Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 2:13 am
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Table 1: HSEEP Exercise Types

OMG, seriously? How about HSEEPLE? lol.

Good find Deester. Not surprising though.

azure
azure

Saturday, April 25, 2015
Benjamin Fulford: Fall of the 6,000-Year Old System of Babylonian Debt Slavery…..

Benjamin Fulford: Fall of the 6,000-Year Old System of Babylonian Debt Slavery…..
Friday, April 24, 2015 23:07

(Before It’s News)
What we are witnessing is the fall of the 6,000-year old system of Babylonian debt slavery. The human ants are running around in increasing panic because they sense something big has happened. Most are blind so they cannot see that the eye at the top of the human ant-hill, or pyramid, has been overthrown. There is chaos because the people at the top cannot agree on what to do next.
Here is a humble suggestion on how the end the chaos and start an unprecedented era of prosperity. First of all, we need to replace the God we call money with a symbol of the world. A new currency would be issued, call it say a Mundo or ??​and, for a limited period of time, it could be exchanged on a one for one basis with dollars or euros. The U.S. and the EU could then replace their currencies with something new, perhaps something like the greenback. The old dollar and euro would become something to be found in curiosity and antique shops. Other national or regional currencies could remain as they are.
The new currency would then be handed out each month on an equal basis to all humans on earth based on current world GDP. This would amount to roughly 8,000 Mundos per person annually. For the first time many humans will be able to afford the basic commodities of consumer life, such as a television, triggering a vast economic boom.
In addition to this, every human would be given, as a basic human right, access to the minimum necessary nutrition and emergency medical care.
This would not be a form of communism but rather be a one-off thing more like land-distribution. The US and communist land distributions in Japan and China in the post war years paved the way for unprecedented booms. A one-off asset redistribution would do the same for the world. All people in the world would be guaranteed a minimum income locked in at 2008 world mean per-capita GDP. After that it would be up to individuals to raise themselves above that level.
History has had cycles of this sort since time immemorial. Wealth or land would become ever more concentrated until a popular revolt triggered a redistribution. Instead of waiting for a world revolution, world leaders could create a system much like the ones that exist in sports like soccer or baseball. If one team gets too strong and starts winning all the matches, it gets boring and the audience dries up. The answer they came up with is to redistribute talented players in order to even the playing field.
The world can do the same with administrators, scientists, businessmen etc.
In order to preserve nature, an inventory would be kept and destruction of nature would result in a loss of currency calculated according to some sort of basket based on things like the number of whales and the amount of rainforest etc. Increase in overall bio-mass and bio-diversity would lead to an increase in the minimum guaranteed per-capita income.
In addition to this, a system like in Japan from the post-war to 1985 or in present day China would work well for individual countries and regions as well as for the world as a whole. It would involve a combination of central-planning and market forces.
http://templeton01436.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-fall-of-babylon-by-benjamin

azure
azure

Not all of us are Buddists

azure
azure

When Cobra speaks of Karma, he is referring to your condition. If you were born poor and destitute, it is not because of a crime you committed in a former life.
When the Event happens, the global reset, then these things will be go away. It is not your lot to be born in bitterness, poor in wealth and poor in spirit because of past transgressions. You do not owe anyone anything but to live your life and to be happy.
All peoples of this planet are human beings. We all deserve to be free, live in the pursuit of happiness and to be free of environmental destruction, poverty and global hunger.
Comment by azure on April 26, 2015 @ 11:27 am
Your platitudes are simplistic new age bs! I’ll ask again, why do you support this snake?
Comment by xander on April 26, 2015 @ 5:04 pm

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Because my opinion is different then yours. End of story.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by roytheboy on April 27, 2015 @ 5:05 am

Really – how so?

secondlife
secondlife

Isn’t it funny how the term…

Regular ‘Scheduled’ Programming has a completely different meaning once we wake up to them…

And every time we sit to watch the idiot box…

We get Programmed… regularly, ‘scheduled’ and without consciously consenting to it! 😡

Man what a freaking racket they have going… and right in front of our very eyes… the ‘windows’ to our Souls. 🙁

Never would I have imagined though… that all the insane people that tried to expose the ‘truths’ all these years and were committed for it…

Would be ME! And we ‘insane’ are really the only ‘normal’ people in the mix! 😛

Truth is definitely stranger than Fiction! -Peace

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by marhuff55 on April 27, 2015 @ 1:59 am

I second that. How do I figure out the IP address of the computers that people use to post comments here?

anonymous
anonymous

Latest Montague Keen. Some interesting info in this message and a link to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQyTgIBhFY

http://www.montaguekeen.com/page1470.html

“The Bible is an Irish book of pre-Roman times and an out and out theft without acknowledgment from the Irish Church of IESA.”

England is owned by the Church of Rome since 15 May 1213, to be precise and the Church of England is a Catholic Franchise.

…. you should never put an X on a ballot paper. It legally signifies that you are lunatic, delinquent, minor, alien, pauper or ward of the parish or under guardianship as being mentally deranged, of unsound mind and incompetent to administer your own affairs.

Please continue your work on the ley lines, releasing all their energy. Also send love and light to the three centres of power: London, Rome, and Washington. Your freedom is in your hands….

roytheboy
roytheboy

Maybe it’s just me . I felt Caleb and Patricia were so alike……

Love

Roy x

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by secondlife on April 27, 2015 @ 2:10 am

Ok, thanks. I thought I may have missed that post, but after reading what you said here, and then thinking back on it, now I do remember it.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by secondlife on April 27, 2015 @ 4:31 am

It’s true – some people just collide and that’s that. And, you’re right, we are here for a common cause – the liberation our precious planet (flat, round or otherwise), and all her inhabitants – us humans and all other life here that is just hanging on at the moment. I know we definitely will get through it because we are coming together here and all over the world to accomplish it, even though LSM isn’t covering it 😉

Thanks secondlife

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by filip4 on April 27, 2015 @ 2:37 am

Dynamic IP addresses, or non-routable addresses, are used for internal networks, such as businesses and home networks, and can’t be used for the internet. IP’s used for the internet are unique to each computer.

secondlife
secondlife

Here’s an observation… my opinion of things…

So far I do not see a single country, leader, group or what have you…

That is leading by example… living the way we all want to live in the world…

Treating ALL their people, thru actions and not words alone…

The way we wish the world to be! 🙁

I see more and more of the same… in varying degrees and hidden alterations…

But still the same…

Example… step up and release the hidden histories… tell the TRUTH on their national broadcasts…

CHANGE things thru direct actions… Russia, China…

I don’t have faith in either of them… just having their moment in the sun… they are human after all… God help us! 😯

So I see everyone is out and about… not posting currently… I will do the same.

Catch you on the rebound. -Peace

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by stefie444 on April 27, 2015 @ 3:58 am

Valid point… then you also have a ‘compatibility’ situation as well…

Let’s face it… some people are just not compatible to communicate with each other… will ‘always’ find fault with how the other sees or views things. 🙁

We are who we are… no fault in it… it just is what it is.

But in the end… coming ‘together’ for a shared ‘common’ cause is how we ALL will get thru it.

And that is the real ‘beauty’ to Ben’s blog… a common cause for a better world.

Have a fine day. -Be Well

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by omnahmasiva5 on April 27, 2015 @ 4:05 am

You are indeed correct… it just takes time and desire to do so…

Control ‘F’ will help you locate the post provided you remember the thread that it appeared in.

The only missing posts are the one’s that Ben has had scrubbed on his end…. or possible agency interferences that happen once and a while. 😉

I recently posted Patricia’s very first post… under her original name: Pansy… which I found using Control F.

So is someone has an interest… it’s all here. 😛

And there were many epic battles/discussions… HopeSrings verse Merek was a clssic…

Sometimes I find myself reflecting… reading the past… especially Ben’s own predictions, which almost all have not developed… just the nature of predicting… throwing it out in advance I suppose often helps diffuse the possibility of it happening.

Oh well… it has been fun gleaning all that has unfolded here.

Enjoy your day. -Peace

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Given the right triggers, situations, circumstances, most people have a “mean streak” – but what I have noticed more and more is the smooth, carefully worded, condescending and superior types of communications are, to me, more offensive and ultimately more harmful. I’ve seen comments here that, although omitting directly rude language, were condescending and clearly insulting in their own right. I guess it’s all in the individual perceptions/preferences then. I think we need a range of humanness to create a dynamic and authentic dialog…IMHO
Comment by stefie444 on April 27, 2015 @ 3:58 am

Thank you Stefie

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Comment by cornpoppin on April 27, 2015 @ 3:49 am

Dear CP as far as I know, all posts are available. If one had the time and interest, one could find exactly what someone posted on this site.

secondlife
secondlife

So I have been listening to Jim Willie… love the guys intensity…

However… my biggest beef with all he expresses…

Is that if you don’t go into hard assets like Gold and Silver… you are fucked! 🙁

That doesn’t ring true to me…

I mean only the ‘privileged’ are privy to the knowledge to do so… have the ability and financial acumen to do so…

And so the ‘haves’ will just continue to HAVE and all else will be up shit’s creek without a paddle, AGAIN! 😡

That is not fair… it’s no different than any other time…

Power will remain in the HANDS that currently have it, since they will continue to hold the wealth…

And everyone else, at no fault of their own, since they have no advance awareness… are flat broke!

Am I missing something here?? Am I in the minority to recognize that nothing seems to be changing and we are heading right in the path for more of the same? 😕

I have to believe in my heart’s desire, that something way beyond our grasp… way beyond prediction and comprehension will make its way… to save the day! 😉

Anyway… back to the regular scheduled programming! -Peace

deester
deester

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1MVx3RQ2c&app=desktop

We had a drill with police, firefighters and ambulance at the airport involving a shell of an airplane. It appeared on the nightly news, but I couldn’t find footage after, so it got scrubbed.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

These fake shootings are happening more and more. It would be nice if one of their stupid “events” fell apart. They are mailing them in now because people are still falling for them. It would also be nice to see the people cashing in with their fake charities be charged with fraud.

Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 3:37 am

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I am praying they ALL fall apart, and the ones who plotted the plan are exposed–their plan naked in front of the multitudes. No place to hide.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by beegee on April 26, 2015 @ 12:45 am
I do believe Caleb has a mean streak in him and one only needs to wait to eventually see that come out, regardless of what it is wrapped in
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Given the right triggers, situations, circumstances, most people have a “mean streak” – but what I have noticed more and more is the smooth, carefully worded, condescending and superior types of communications are, to me, more offensive and ultimately more harmful. I’ve seen comments here that, although omitting directly rude language, were condescending and clearly insulting in their own right. I guess it’s all in the individual perceptions/preferences then. I think we need a range of humanness to create a dynamic and authentic dialog…IMHO

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 3:37 am
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Deester, you might be interested in this. We just had a very unpublicized “event” here in our little town.

At the end of the week, after it was over, a little article appeared in our paper. It had a small photo of a man wearing a ski mask, black gloves and black shirt. DUH, did he look like a “terrorist”?

It basically said the town and county had just “hosted” (?) a special emergency exercise. The exercise was about a situation involving and active shooting, then coordinated response from law enforcement agencies and a variety of other officials. “The realistic event utilized a host of volunteer actors…” The Border Patrol was one of several agencies.

❓ I find this BIZARRE.

deester
deester

The clear hearing version is back up with the whispering between Halbig and his lawyer muted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1MVx3RQ2c&app=desktop

If I lived driving distance to Hartford, I would have attended in person.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

She was attacked because she saw something strange..David Wilcock and someone else posting from the same computer. That is what it all boils down to.You cannot say anything negative about David and not get attacked.

Comment by martha on April 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am
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Is this post still available?

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“For anyone who likes to read articles about relevant topics, that have meaning and substance, and are very well written, check out this journal:”

http://www.elephantjournal.com
Comment by wovolve42 on April 27, 2015 @ 1:57 am
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Wo, xoxoxox, thanks for the heads up. I spent a bit of time at the site and will be going back. Real articles for real people.

You might enjoy this tidbit: My hubby spent the weekend in Albuquerque at the largest american indian gathering (social pow wow)in the world: Gathering of Nations. Over 500 tribes attend, indigenous folks from all over the world came (including Maori etc). 3000 native dancers. Around 100,000 people a day attend to watch.

Yesterday a couple of hours into the “festivities”, a huge video screen came down. President Obama, who is very well liked by most Indian folks, and spoke to the event. He acknowledged that native american/indian youth have THE highest suicide rate in the country—even higher than veterans. He offered empathy, hope and encouragement to the native peoples. My man said even though thousands of people watched this, you could have heard a pin drop. Then the President got a standing ovation.

Obama has done a lot of wrong things but this was a gem for people who craved a gem. He had the heart to share with those with hearts.

xxxx

mkddachs

Repealing the Most Unfair Tax-Roger Williams Discusses Death Tax, Family Business on Fox Business Network

Last week, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to repeal the estate tax, otherwise known as the death tax. With this vote, the House did its part to abolish the government’s unfair practice of double taxation.

President Obama says he will veto this measure if it arrives at his desk. Although the president claims this tax affects only the super rich, it is actually the wealthy who have the means to hire accountants and lawyers to find loopholes to avoid paying this tax.

Many second generation business owners and farmers struggle to hold on to the businesses that have been passed down to them by their parents and grandparents. The tax causes much harm for little gain. The death tax contributes less than one percent to federal revenue, it’s simply insignificant in the big picture.

The death tax is just another example of how out of touch the Obama Administration really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6cet3nOQM

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal April 26th, 2015

Exploring Advanced States of Consciousness: Intuition and Beyond

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/04/26/exploring-advanced-states-of-consciousness-intuition-and-beyond/

Most people only ever use a small fraction of their conscious abilities — of the truly incredible things that they are actually capable of

+ Be Well +

Truth

gillfinn
gillfinn

It was. These fake shootings are happening more and more. It would be nice if one of their stupid “events” fell apart. They are mailing them in now because people are still falling for them. It would also be nice to see the people cashing in with their fake charities be charged with fraud.
Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 3:37 am
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Well, your hopes are out there now, sit back and watch it unfold, your wish is the universe’s command. It’s only a matter of time.

deester
deester

“This must’ve been a big moment for you as well.”

Comment by gillfinn on April 27, 2015 @ 3:27 am

It was. These fake shootings are happening more and more. It would be nice if one of their stupid “events” fell apart. They are mailing them in now because people are still falling for them. It would also be nice to see the people cashing in with their fake charities be charged with fraud.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“…I have done no research about the “flat” Earth but I wanted to make a point about Masons..

I think there was a time when masons were honest, upright guys.

I also think that EVERY group no matter how good the intentions people have gets infiltrated by the negative side.

So- way back in history the Masons may have been the best of the best–even if now they are not.”
Comment by cornpoppin on April 27, 2015 @ 3:20 am

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Hi cornpoppin, Oh I agree. I too feel strongly they, and others have been infiltrated…

I have found that even centuries ago the mystery schools, secret societies (even the gnostics) had an awareness that most didn’t/don’t have. They passed down “higher” knowledge to one another that just was not suitable for the average person to know….to protect the knowledge and to protect others from harm by knowing the knowledge and misusing it.

Then, when the black magicians took control they began using that knowledge in just the manner that the others, good people, were trying to prevent.

gillfinn
gillfinn

It was funny how he looked at Monte Frank after even the simplest question. The police chief didn’t look very comfortable, even though he would have been questioned in court often when he was a cop.
Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 3:14 am
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I was also aware of how red, both the police chief and the maintenance super’s faces, actually their entire face and ears got when the questioning began. Clearly there is a major coverup and those guys are in the thick of it.
It will be an interesting dynamic for Halbig and his lawyer to go over these tapes and take all this info in, that was a big step.

This must’ve been a big moment for you as well.

Edge
Edge

EU PAPER HEADLINES—
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EU Parliament Conservatives: We Are Ready for War with Russia—
Deranged European MEP’s declaration that the EU is ready for war with Russia deemed ‘tough’ and ‘realistic’ policy???–
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Instead of embracing Russia and China as equal trade partners, and Russia as a great source of energy/ raw
materials, and prospering with the new ‘silk road’ and large Eurasian Trade Zone—-

The EU and Europe by allowing NATO and Uncle Sam to use
them as one big NATO military base on the Russian border
to threaten and abuse Russia/China—such as what is happening in Ukraine–

Europe has to realize that when Uncle Sam or NATO pull the
trigger– Europe will become only a pile or(heap) of contaminated nuclear dust—
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Great Cataclysm Of “May 9th” Propels Global Fears —
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/
For information only–you decide—

mkddachs

Comment by calebbrennan on April 26, 2015 @ 5:26 pm
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you proved my point

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

In my INTENSIVE research into this flat earth idea (40+ hours and at least 10 more researching the researchers), I have found some pretty interesting things: all of the ancient “priest” scientists were all involved with secret societies and/or free masons etc. and most are from “the bloodlines” including:
Copernicus
Pythagoras
Newton

Nasa –all top level are masons
astronauts–all of them are masons

And the connections to the vatican, the so called royal families etc. etc. very interesting.

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 26, 2015 @ 9:05 am

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I have done no research about the “flat” Earth but I wanted to make a point about Masons..

I think there was a time when masons were honest, upright guys.

I also think that EVERY group no matter how good the intentions people have gets infiltrated by the negative side.

So- way back in history the Masons may have been the best of the best–even if now they are not.

valtony
valtony

805

deester
deester

Comment by gillfinn on April 27, 2015 @ 2:14 am

I agree that the commissioner and lady in red probably bought the media version. She pointed out there was mold in the overhang when she saw the photo before Halbig’s lawyer did. If she does any research online and finds those police photos, it will be a real eye-opener for her. You could tell from her demeanor that she was not impressed with the custodian after that. If you had to hire someone to remove mold, you would certainly need a work order and to have it inspected after as it is hazardous. It was funny how he looked at Monte Frank after even the simplest question. The police chief didn’t look very comfortable, even though he would have been questioned in court often when he was a cop.

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Reference:
http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/why-is-education-important-blog.html

“TELLING SHIT FROM THE SHOVEL”

“The above title issues from a famous colleague of mine. It appeals because it fits in with my Portuguese-Azorean peon background. My Azorean 5′ 2” grandfather seemed to believe you weren’t a man unless you dug into the earth with a shovel on a regular basis.

I’ve been researching the Internet for well over 10 years now, and I’ve learned much but, still, I must admit when it really comes down to what is transpiring on planet earth, I too cannot tell shit from the shovel….”

Thanks, Glenn, for the “famous colleague of mine” comment. If it’s not me you’re referencing, then there’s a third kindred “peon” soul out there with us, who just happens to be famous, since I’m not, but is equally as prone as I, to twisting the common idiom. 😉

…”A typical example is the ET situation. I believe in ETs, although I’ve seen neither an ET nor an UFO. Given the vastness and orderliness of the universe that any flower proves a testament to, it just makes sense. Moreover, the thousands of individuals who have professed to ET experiences is enough proof for me.

However, when it comes to claims that the ETs are rescuing (which I hope are true) humanity from the dark ones, I cannot discover solid evidence. This is not saying it’s not true, but I am unable to find convincing proof I could present to a court of law without being laughed out of court. With such a dearth of evidence on this subject, I wonder if those who believe in our ET saviors do it because of reality based evidence or because they tend to believe what they wish were true?

Hence, with this perspective in mind, I invite any positive ETs to pay me a visit and provide evidence that they are aiding humanity in a significant way. Feel free to beam me up any time, but kindly send me a telepathic warning first just so I can let my wife know if I’m going to be late for dinner. Insectoids, reptilians, mantids, avians, pleiadians, etc., are all welcome and the more the merrier. Negatively oriented ETs need not apply. I will publish any solid evidence of ET humanitarian aid on this blog…”

Cool offer, Glenn. Though… how will you tell the Negs from the Positives? Given that the Negs seem to be able to lie and interfere at will, while the Positives are held to a strict code of “non-interference”. That could be a confusing decision, whether to go flying, or not.

They’re a twisted lot, those ETs. Kind of a reflection of ourselves if you think about it objectively.

Of course that “non-interference” stuff may just be a rationalization to explain to those who “tend to believe what they wish were true” why the good-guy-ETs seem to be absent from the scene.

Better they just approach one of us (someone, anyone) on a busy street in a major city, or in a busy park on a sunny day, in full daylight, when the dog-walkers in this group are out in droves to act as witnesses. Somebody is apt to have a smart-phone camera.

That way, the grape-vine information we tend to get as truth, second, third or fourth hand, from a source who can’t be revealed, because of the dangers, (of what, being caught in a lie?) becomes plain as day. Assuming, I guess, they visit enough of us in this up-front manner.

Assuming too, they know enough not to signal “BS” by dropping in on the White-House lawn like they did on “The Day The Earth Stood Still”. 😉

…”On the other hand, I think there are times when I can tell shit from the shovel. Claims that Vladimir Putin and the BRICS are going to save humanity appear to be one such time. Just the circumstantial evidence should put any reasonable human being on his or her guard. At the least, Vladimir Putin is reportedly worth $40,000,000,000. Do you think he earned that money honestly on his KGB salary? Do you think it is very likely a billionaire could possibly identify with the common person? Do you think he would have become a billionaire without playing the Illuminati game? Once KGB always KGB. Do you think it’s likely he turned against those who made him a billionaire? It’s well known he’s met with Heinz Kissinger regularly since 2000. Putin does everything but play patty cakes in public with Kissinger- check out the pictures. One of Putin’s closest confidants is Roman Abramovich, a Russian oligarch. Nat Rothschild and Roman Abramovich are reportedly best friends. Link to Putin control network below.”

Emphasis in the abov e quoted sections from Glenn’s Parenting Blog Posting are mine.

I’ve included Glenn’s entire quote here and want to comment further on his Putin comments with which I also agree, but will do so in a subsequent posting to handle the seque from ETs to World Politics.

Cheers…
Gus

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by azure on April 26, 2015 @ 11:21 am

Good post and I thank you for taking the time to write it. 🙂

My problem though… is it was written by humans… interpreted by humans… corrupted by humans…

I am just not buying into much of anything at this point…

The more I search… the more I learn about the lies and the disinformation to lead me astray and waste vital time and energy in doing so. 🙁

The rabbit hole just continues to get deeper no matter how far I wish to go… and by design none-the-less…

So then… my truth… my guidance will be from within and not from other’s tainted twists on it. 😉

We create as we go… like the saying expresses… “where our thoughts flow, energy grows!” And with it… what we create in our mind’s eye.

One day, when the veil drops… we will KNOW the REAL truth… and it won’t take efforts in doing so… Universal and accepted by everyone! 🙂 -Peace

filip4
filip4

April 27, 2015 @ 1:59 am

Could it PC technically be because both use so called dynamic IP address software ? I mean, if they are not entering at the same time, this software might be able to give same dynamic IP address to both ? I suppose it works so that might be possible.

secondlife
secondlife

This puts things into perspective….

Many active posters have been here, interacted more and spent just more time as a whole, then they did in High School or College, or both combined! 😯

Now that is a lot if history, emotion and drama… all right here on Ben’s blog! 😛

That should make you think! -Peace

mefredsr
mefredsr

Question

Comment by azure on April 26, 2015 @ 11:21 am

“Marduk, who purportedly is the son of Ea/Enki, was known in Babylon as Marduk but in Egypt as Ra.”

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Is this Ra the same Ra, as the source, the Humble Messenger of “The Law of One?”

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by stefie444 on April 27, 2015 @ 2:14 am

Good idea! 🙂 Huge mega-blast of love coming to everyone, everything, everywhere!

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by secondlife on April 27, 2015 @ 2:02 am

Why not just send prayers to everyone all the time? How about sending blessings to all members, Ben, David, your families, your cities, your country, all other countries, all creatures big and small, the Earth, the Universe/God or whatever term one may use for their concept of God, etc. That should cover any concern for Patricia or any of our cafe family 🙂

gillfinn
gillfinn

As for newspapers being hearsay evidence, I was once at a planning commission meeting as a reporter, a guy came in with an old copy of the newspaper I worked for and indicated that the commission had promised the The applause after Halbig said he didn’t trust Monte Frank to deliver documents had to be unnerving, even to a seasoned lawyer. The two who didn’t show up after being subpoenoed should be charged with contempt, but we know that won’t happen.
Comment by deester on April 27, 2015 @ 1:37 am
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Okay, I watched the much clearer version shot from the end of the table. It’s apparent the coverup is ongoing and judging from past experience I’m sure they felt any challenge to the status quo would be minimal.
I do believe that as this gains exposure, those closest to the nucleus of the coverup will start questioning themselves.

I got the feeling during this hearing that a lot of these people (courthouse) have bought the ‘official’ story hook and sinker. The woman sitting to the commissioner’s right seemed to be one of these people. But as time went by I got the feeling she began to get much more interested in the line of questioning made by Halbig’s attorney and even assisted as i’m sure you’ve noticed.

I hope they do a little bit more interviewing of Halbig to get his feelings at this point. I watched about 5 minutes of a post hearing interview shot in the hallway but it wasn’t long enough.

deester
deester

Types of drills and exercises for SHEEP – oops, I mean HSEEP, on page 76. Evacuating a sports stadium makes one wonder if there is going to be a false flag at a sporting event. It makes sense, considering sports have replaced religion.

http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Evacuation%20Planning%20Guide%20for%20Stadiums.pdf

secondlife
secondlife

I believe Patricia may have been the first to recognize the possible connection and remarked about it… but that is all I remember… so that’s all I have to contribute on the matter. -Peace

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by marhuff55 on April 27, 2015 @ 1:59 am

Hey Martin… just saw your post and figured I’d throw a remark out, since I always enjoy your thoughts. 😉

I believe Martha was speaking about the week that both DW and that dude that posts his pendulum predictions at the very beginning of Ben’s new posts… like tomorrow…

They both remarked about the Blue Avian’s… The Blue Bird People… and it seemed too coincidental just happen at the same time…

But I believe we all felt that that guy may have just seen or was at a DW event and spoke of things that he saw before DW came here??

Anyway… that’s my 2 cents… have a great day.

Be Well

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by martha on April 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am

Hey Martha… I made the ‘mistake’ of ‘asking’ people to send a prayer or 2 of protection for someone too divisive for some to engage in. 🙁

It was my ‘opinion’ that we ‘cared’ enough about each other here that no matter what our differences were, that we could and would push them aside for someone ‘possibly’ in need of them!

Now I obviously do not know for sure that Patricia is in need of anything… she may have just left… but I ‘felt’ a inner-need to send a prayer or 2… just incase… can’t hurt, right? 😕

But no… some in their own personal issues against her can’t evolve enough to let go of the petty issues to send a prayer… and that… well that just sucks, period!

The very reason I commented above about how I felt this place was beyond the petty BS that effects the sleepers so!

We SHOULD be beyond all inner issues and take a moment or 2 to send at least a prayer… I mean… how are we even close to ascension when we still struggle with basic common courtesy??? 😡

It is with times like now… that I understand why so many have left here and gone silent…. less frustrations when you just don’t get involved in the BS!

Disengage and let it all go… hum

Sound’s about right… -Peace

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by martha on April 27, 2015 @ 1:47 am

Hi Martha,
Could you fill me in on this, because I was not aware that this happened.

“she saw something strange..David Wilcock and someone else posting from the same computer.”

I ask, not because it has anything to do with DW, but for the reasoning behind how she could tell two people were using the same computer.

wovolve42
wovolve42

For anyone who likes to read articles about relevant topics, that have meaning and substance, and are very well written, check out this journal:

http://www.elephantjournal.com

martha
martha

comment by secondlife on April 26, 2015 @ 6:50 am

Don’t really understand this post but I do see it is about attack and the reason Patricia left. She was attacked because she saw something strange..David Wilcock and someone else posting from the same computer. That is what it all boils down to.You cannot say anything negative about David and not get attacked. OK so he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. Edgar Cayce claimed to be the reincarnation of Ra. All this is circular and bull s—.Why not just believe what we as individuals want to and not try to make other people in our image?

Patricia was not as confrontational as many on this website now. I found her to be very compassionate and brilliant ..this website has gone done with her not being here.And since when is a sense of humor a prerequisite for acceptance on a political website? Do we come here for facts or acceptance? Getting good marks on the many many rundowns of the people behind the comments?

I have read a lot of political websites before and this is the ONLY one that personalizes in this manner, very similar to junior high school to me.

secondlife
secondlife

Sorry for my misspelling above…

And for the labeling as well… but for illustration purposes… we have to sometimes ‘name’ things to fully understand the picture… words suck… but that’s all we have here. 😕

deester
deester

Comment by gillfinn on April 26, 2015 @ 10:52 pm

This is what the original poster of the clearer video had to say about why it was pulled off Youtube.

“I have received communication of concerns about Wolfgang and his attorney whispering that shouldn’t have been included in the video…. It appears to some a breach of attorney/client privilege. I don’t know if this is true as I am not an attorney; however, to make folks happy, I pulled the video and a new video is in production without the Wolfgang whispering.”

Hopefully, the clear one will be posted again. That is the one I watched last night.

The blotchy four hour one is still up, as are a few interviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvRgs-jOHRE&spfreload=10

As for newspapers being hearsay evidence, I was once at a planning commission meeting as a reporter, a guy came in with an old copy of the newspaper I worked for and indicated that the commission had promised the property owner something and they were now going against it. The commission chair said that “papers always got stuff wrong” and they refused to consider that they had changed their stance.

The only really good thing about this hearing was that people like the wretched liar Monte Frank and the other two witnesses know that Halbig has support from the public. The applause after Halbig said he didn’t trust Monte Frank to deliver documents had to be unnerving, even to a seasoned lawyer. The two who didn’t show up after being subpoenoed should be charged with contempt, but we know that won’t happen.

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 7:54 am

Hey Stefie… I appreciate your post… but as Melissa stated above… you have not been around long enough to really make an accurate evaluation of the matters involved.

Also, by making suck remarks, you continue the divisions that some time exist here… the different ‘camps’ that usually end up with multiple parties sounding off in each of them. 🙁

It becomes a pile-on and draws more and more comments to them… like a vacuum.

I understand you support Caleb… and just so you know, I don’t dislike him or anyone here… but there has been a history that you may not be aware of, that is impart the ‘real’ reason of such events… they fester below the surface to re-occur time-and-time again.

Caleb… you made a remark about why I was stating what I expressed… and simply… you were ‘wrong’ in your interpretation.

And that’s why I made my reply back to you… your assessment was wrong… plain and simple and I had to correct your take on things.

Listen… this is a public board… we all enjoy debates and open discussions… I obviously am aware of this…

But there exists topics which are worthless in discussing… they are just ‘personal opinions’ that we all have and most often will never let go… nit in simply discussing them with words along.

Religion, POLITICS, and even ‘the flat earth’

And with our deeply held ‘opinions’ comes the inner-feeling of agitation and even hostility when someone steps up too boldly to express them.

Pansy/Patricia was great at that… sounding off and getting in peoples faces… I have had a few very heated debates with her in the past so I know all too well about them.

Now Caleb will never stay silent when Melissa talks Republican matters… and is his right… but it definitely disrupts the board and will NEVER end in any understanding, since Caleb leans towards Socialism and that’s water and oil in any mix… neither side will give in.

So we have had many past, very heated debates here… which were, well… worthless in their attempts. I think most here can agree… some things are just not compatible to discuss… and probably should be.

Anyway… I see you all as team-mates… and whether or not I agree or disagree with what is discussed here… I respect you all to lend a hand if needed… and that includes Caleb… who I remember sending a prayer or two for healing when his ass was literally in pain! 😉

I will not go on about this topic any longer, since I have already disrupted the board enough.

I hope we can just learn when NOT to engage in a topic where we ‘really’ have no true desire to learn and let go, and only wish to win the battle… we know when we just want to win… we don’t even listen… defend, defend, defend. 🙁

Best to you all… Be Safe and Be Well

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by mozart on April 25, 2015 @ 12:02 pm

“I’m down and miserable far too many of these crazy days, rather than being upbeat and happy. And I get so, so, SO eff’n mad with the shiat going on, despite the facts about the good-guy ETs being here.”

Perhaps the reason for all your misery and unhappiness is the disconnect between what you understand to be facts (as stated in your own words bolded above) and what your senses and the rational parts of yourself are telling you.

That condition of congnitive dissonance is something I think we all suffer from to some degree or other, due to the ever-expanding gap between what we’re told is true, and what we actually sense and experience.

“…But, yea, having first-hand physical proof of the presence of the good-guy ETs would be great, but such proof exists in numerous gummint DUMBs.”

So we’ve been told — but that’s just more hearsay. Though, I’m not saying DUMBs don’t exist, or that ET (good or bad) is fiction, just that I have no personal experience with either. Mis-placed belief, too far off from personal experience, results in the personal hell of cognitive dissonance.

“BTW … the 12-strand DNA idea is not true. No such thing as a 12-strand DNA….The idea of 12 strands has been put out there as disinfo to muddle our minds — I hate to tell you that, Gus.”

No skin off my nose, Mozart. Most of us, myself included, probably aren’t fully using the two strands that we currently do have. 😉

My refrence to “wanting my 10 missing strands back” was a bad attempt at humour. Learned that from reading comments by Caleb, the true master of bad attempts at humour. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

intruth
intruth

THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 2015

JADE HELM is NOT “an ordinary training drill”
BY JIM FETZER

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/04/jade-helm-is-not-ordinary-training-drill.html

rebecca
rebecca

This is exactly what Wolfgang Halbig is up against: :-=(

Sharyl [Attkisson] has donated proceeds from Stonewalled [her book] to the University of Florida to put on a Freedom of Information forum for students and professionals, in which they brainstormed to come up with ideas for making the government more responsive to public information request; how to fix the freedom of information process, “which is entirely pointless and useless now,” as Sharyl says>/b>.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/04/26/media-obstruction-intimidation-harassment.aspx?e_cid=20150426Z1_SNL_B_art_1&utm_source=snl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20150426Z1_SNL_B&et_cid=DM75078&et_rid=930087221

intruth
intruth

American Elections: A Global Death Threat

This week in a secret meeting of global “fixers,” sometimes called the “Secret Shadow Government” or the “Khazarian Mafia,” Ohio Governor John Kasich, a virtual unknown, was chosen to join “the least of all Bushes,” former Florida governor Jeb Bush, to be appointed to run the US after a rigged presidential election scheduled for 2016.

Leading the Planet to Armageddon

War is coming, everyone sees it but few understand how much events are controlled by American elections. A reality of the 20th century is that a Republican/GOP presidential win can only be achieved through rigging an election. Only 30% of Americans see themselves as “conservative” or “Republican.”

It is America’s Republican Party, the party of Nixon/Reagan/Bush and McCain that is pushing for war with Russia, even at the risk of branding America a rogue dictatorship.

What America doesn’t see, that the rest of the world increasingly is focused on, is that the things America does; drones, torture, backing terrorist factions, arming criminal regimes, bombing and murdering at will, has made America a less than desirable friend, ally or even trading partner.

Death in Ohio

Recent moves here in the State of Ohio are setting the stage for a potential third world war. Governor John Kasich, elected though massive election fraud financed by gambling boss Sheldon Adelson, has been offered the position of Vice President under Jeb Bush in the upcoming 2016 election.

There is a fear that Jeb Bush’s ties to recently indicted Senator Bob Menendez and an $8 billion defense fraud may come to light. Between this and Jeb’s long history of money laundering for Colombian drug cartels through Bush family owned Texas Commerce Bank, Kasich may well be pushed into the presidency.

Kasich is the “creature” of Adelson and Netanyahu and a Kasich presidency would hand America’s nuclear arsenal to organized crime.

A Bush Kasich ticket, both fiscal extremists with broad “police state” agendas, both dedicated to dismembering worker’s and investor’s rights, could only maintain political control of the US during a wartime. Oligarchical rule, which they represent, requires a national disaster and a new enemy. Russia is the “flavor of the month” and war over an incident tied to a Baltic State or Ukraine is already rumored to be in the planning.

more: http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/24/american-elections-a-global-death-threat/

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by calebbrennan on April 26, 2015 @ 8:14 pm

Now this resonates with me. I just can’t get we are floating on a raft of sorts. Not because we’ve been told this or that, but because it doesn’t “feel” right to me.

intruth
intruth

Excerpt from Corey/GoodETxSG:

Part of the equation of their upcoming campaign is also to manipulate the Mass Human Consciousness and its Co-Creative Abilities in their “Black Magic” tactics they have used for some time to try to use humanity’s mass consciousness as a tool to create a more favorable outcome for them. This too will fail.

In one of the briefings in the last couple of evenings I was told the details of how many extremely high ranking (Secret Earth Government) “Cabal Members” that were affiliated with the “Defectors” who joined the SSP Alliance have “Disappeared” from many countries. These people and their entire families have been provided a sort of “Cosmic Witness Protection” from the SSP Alliance in exchange for the information they had collected (As their personal insurance over the years) and for their future testimony in public hearings that will be similar to the “Hague”. I very recently met one of them (A Russian) who requested the meeting. He was obviously very powerful and it wasn’t much of a conversation but photo op with us shaking hands and him thanking me for meeting through an interpreter. This just occurred so I have no idea what the purpose of this was for.

The re-education process off providing our true history and dumping this disturbing data on humanity in a responsible way will occur after certain financial event and other scandals finally make it clear to the most asleep person that just about everything they think they know is a lie… Once they are awakened from these revelations that will occur by the hands and actions of these “Cabal/Illuminati” groups them selves (The more they try to put out fires they more they spread them) the people will be ready for the massive and responsibly delivered “Full Disclosure” or great revealing.

I hear people say “Bring it on”, “We are ready”, “Just dump all the info and do not treat us like children”… I say be careful what you wish for. Most of the people that follow these topics are barely ready for some of these disclosures, the mass populations of controlled and asleep people are not. They are going to need people like us to be strong and united at a future point to help them through the transition. Once we are on our own two feet we will be 100% responsible for our own actions and have no other beings to blame. That is an exciting and scary test of what we are made of IMHO. We will all be quite different beings post “Event”, so there is hope for us yet… (Again, IMHO)

Corey/GoodETxSG

http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot/page99

gillfinn
gillfinn

Deester, I watched the Halbig deposition and I’m embarrassed for Hartford (my birth city) also the state of Connecticut. I’ve noticed it’s since been taken down at least from youtube.

What blows my mind is everything reported by the news and used as a basis for Halbig’s accusations/questions are written off as ‘hearsay’. The news by their own admission is a lie and cannot be admissible as a basis for questioning.

No wonder they can literally get away with complete fabrication of any event, call it a live shooting/occurrence, and then discount it entirely when it comes under scrutiny. Does no one understand their legal system is a sham?
This isn’t going away anytime soon though.

valtony
valtony

777

zantor
zantor

Alternative “escape routes” in Gaia energetics have closed

Posted 4/26/205 by ÉirePort

“Alternative “escape routes” in Gaia energetics have closed.

Selection of Elevated Vibrational Inner guidance is key at this moment.

Withdrawal from chaotic-appearing energies is recommended.

Discerning Spirits know the Truth, and are not tricked.

Inner growth accelerates from this time point.”

URL: http://wp.me/p2sFUY-uN

xander
xander
xander
xander

Bradley Manning gets 35 years. Eligible for parole in 7.
When is this going to stop? When is it going to change? How much longer do we have to wait? How bad does it have to get? What is Obama waiting for? How many innocent men women & children have to continue to suffer horrendously on this planet of sorrows? The Pacific is mostly dead already…

xander
xander

We want DISCLOSURE & we want it now!

xander
xander

Right on bro, you tell’em caleb…

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

If someone suggested the earth is a Pear that bubbles according to gravity

or it is multiple dimensional cups that come together to form a sphere

I can get with that

But saying the earth, it is flat or a cube.?

The wrongness I get from this concept

is strong

the anomlies are present Yes
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The logic goes like this

because anomalies exist

therefore the earth is flat
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This Seems really square

This planet we live on is singing a pure note
and not a flat.

as it spirals with the fireflies in the vortex

Maybe the earth is upside down muffin I don’t have problem with force field or Dome

But calling the earth a BOX is insulting

I like women with curves,

Yo Mama ain’t no rectangle

intruth
intruth

The “War On Cash” Migrates To Switzerland

4/25/2015

It is undoubtedly a huge red flag when in one of the countries considered to be a member of the “highest economic freedom in the world” club, commercial banks are suddenly refusing their customers access to their cash.

This money doesn’t belong to the banks, and it doesn’t belong to the central bank either. If this can happen in prosperous Switzerland, based on some nebulous notion of the “collective good”, which its unelected central planners can arbitrarily determine and base decisions upon, it can probably happen anywhere. Consider yourself warned.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-25/war-cash-migrates-switzerland

intruth
intruth

Another Jim Willie–Part 1&2—
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https://www.youtube.com/user/FinanceAndLiberty/videos
Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 2:18 am
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The latest Jim Willie is excellent. Says Disney World in Florida is actually a sovereign state or nation. That’s in part 2. Gonna catch this interview again.

intruth
intruth

Sharyl Attkisson, former CBS investigative journalist, has a new book out – Stonewalled: My Fight for Truth Against the Forces of Obstruction, Intimidation, and Harassment in Obama’s Washington, which exposes what goes on behind the scenes in the media that gives you the information you come to think of as real and true.

She’s put into print what we all know here. Journalists are heavily monitored and censored.

Article also talks about the attack on Dr Oz by a group of Drs. which are really a GMO front group.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/04/26/media-obstruction-intimidation-harassment.aspx?

intruth
intruth

Secret Space War III: Marduk Lands in Africa ?
Posted by Preston James, Ph.D on July 5, 2013
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/05/secret-space-war-iii-marduk-lands-in-africa/
Comment by secondlife on April 26, 2015 @ 7:30 am
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Fwiw, Simon Parkes says Marduk did not return.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Spirals upon spirals

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

To my Platter friends

Plenty of anomalies to prove a negative.

Not a lot of action on the container ?

or the flat eaerth specifics?

It just kind of hangs out theres as a concept with no specifics,, yes it exposes dubiousnesss yes!,

but we’re left with earth being flat or a cube?

No fucking way! That is the way of the borg.

We are all Eddy. An Eddy is a river with counter roatatioanal currents. emlamatic of the srtar systems within us

No way

Lets say I get on board

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Caleb, was not about being ‘a victim’ or how she had a tendency to jump on
, which Caleb, you do exactly the same thing.
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And so do you,…continually ,..SL you’re doing it right now
it called a discussion board,…Dude \
you have some pretend notion of what that means

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Cobra is a very dynamic and instructive yoga position.

But the guy named Cobra

Not feeling it. At all.

It’s textbook grease.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

dang i fucked up

“do believe Caleb has a mean streak”

was from Melissa not begee

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Comment by beegee on April 26, 2015 @ 12:45 am
I do believe Caleb has a mean streak in him and one only needs to wait to eventually see that come out, regardless of what it is wrapped in

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Because I don’t take shit? You are funny !

Melissa what is amzing is I don’t see you as a troll

You are earnestly full of crap

And I respect that

xander
xander

When Cobra speaks of Karma, he is referring to your condition. If you were born poor and destitute, it is not because of a crime you committed in a former life.

When the Event happens, the global reset, then these things will be go away. It is not your lot to be born in bitterness, poor in wealth and poor in spirit because of past transgressions. You do not owe anyone anything but to live your life and to be happy.

All peoples of this planet are human beings. We all deserve to be free, live in the pursuit of happiness and to be free of environmental destruction, poverty and global hunger.
Comment by azure on April 26, 2015 @ 11:27 am

Your platitudes are simplistic new age bs! I’ll ask again, why do you support this snake?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Thankfully, I got Love from the moment I arrived here in Gaia with my Mom. Bliss to All here!
Comment by cfree928 on April 26, 2015 @ 1

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Spirograph always reminded me of eternity

Even before I ever got high

do it yourself

http://nathanfriend.io/inspirograph/

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Is the world bubble? a plain?

cubism is one thing

And Spirographic is another.

Always appreciate the dimension your in.

And learn the “Parking Signs”

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Comment by beegee on April 26, 2015 @ 12:45 am

The flat Earth subject.
“As above, so below.”
Is it possible that the cells in our bodies hold the answer?
A blood cell is toroidal with a membrane across the center, and depending on the point of view, could appear to be round or flat.
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Good one begee!
I like this comment a lot as this discussion always calls to mind Pattern recognition, and in my mind I see cascading similarities between the macro and the micro and everything in between.

I don’t see anything in nature that does not have depth width and height, which means there is no such thing as flatness, it is a descriptive term that serves a purpose but has no basis in reality.

If I take a flat stone, as flat as you can imagine, I could take a picture of that stone with a maginfied lens and it would like a scyscraper with rounded edges.

An ameaba has depth height and width.

What do I think about speroids vs flatness?

Its a Poem, a hint of us learning dimensionality

Creation Geometry

A Point: the Bindu/ singularity

A Line :It’s the Bindu projecting outward

A Plane : A bunch of lines getting together

A Wave :
The Line and the Plane realizing time space warps it’s body into a belly dancer

A Sphere: they are Knots, bubbles

Grids become cyclonic when they warp/ tangle in a bubble

Tetrahedron and A Spheroid

Level 6

its true some guy Luc 21? posted a bunch a flat earth stuff a few years ago and it didn’t get any traction because many here scoffed at.

But with Gill Dena and Rebecca questioning? People I respect
I take a second look,

but I can’t get with the flatters on platters

Although that could be amazing flying carpet.

cfree928
cfree928

A circle is flat… a 2D concept so we can perceive, map or discuss the ellipse in 3D then we can add movement or time and have a cosmology to be free in.

None of this is difficult if we can keep it non-physical which is exactly what the cabal science shills strive to confuse/control us with. It’s all just conceptual.

Thankfully, I got Love from the moment I arrived here in Gaia with my Mom. Bliss to All here!

cfree928
cfree928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH86yBK-ZsY
“Ancient Flat Earth Beliefs” 38 minutes
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 26, 2015 @ 2:39 am
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Ukdena, Thanks for this great post. For me in the video the 2 important comments are: “not to be taken physically” (6:01) and later – “the world of planetary orbits.” (?)

All of this flat earth meme happening quite a few places on the internet is just about our perceptions… I actually fly in my dreams where gravity is just a condition to deal with much like time or space and is not a limitation.

When I recently had an NDE, my experience for much of the first month was dreamlike in that I was not here in 3D limitation much and interacting with 3d bound humans was exasperating. Fortunately there are some nurses who get it or at least tolerate what they are given and really do help… unlike 99% of the doctors with anal swastikas who treat patients like something to be evaluated only by litmus swabs and other physical measurements.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 26, 2015 @ 11:37 am

ukdena, Your whole essence and excitement really comes through your posts. It makes me want to reach out and hug you… so here’s hug. Yes, we are emerging from our cocoons and the celebration will be glorious for all 🙂

mkddachs

….That expression, “You’re either part of the problem or part of the solution” is way more profound than most people can even begin imagine!
It’s Time to Manifest

Don’t worry, the Universe doesn’t ask for perfection. It doesn’t ask for anything. It just is, as George Carlin so poignantly put it. It doesn’t judge, it doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward. It’s just there…and right here. Everywhere, just awaiting discovery. An infinite loving Power Source just waiting to be tapped into.

That’s the wonder of it all, and why we need to see this time we’re living in as the amazing opportunity that it is. We’re being challenged to rise to the occasion, and if that’s what it takes to bring us into this magnificent realizing of our boundless infinite potential and to join together in a massive worldwide love fest that connects us not just here but with everything there is, then so be it!

Jump on in!

And while helping to change the world simply by awakening and responding consciously, enjoy the ride in The Big Electron!

http://www.zengardner.com/infinite-sea-endless-possibility/

mkddachs

infinite-sea-of-endless-possibility

……What we’re up against today in this clearly engineered world that we liken to an engineered matrix is actually just another opportunity for discovery. While the dangers to our species and all living things including our very home planet are very real and cannot be minimized in this increasingly dystopian world, these too are providing mechanisms to help propel us into vast new realms of awakening.

We’re at an extremely unique point in the timeline of human history with vast resources at our fingertips, not just in technological advances that have brought so much information and networking into play, but even more importantly in the surge of elevated conscious awareness that that has risen dramatically in our collective minds and hearts and is now increasing at an exponential rate…..

http://www.zengardner.com/infinite-sea-endless-possibility/

mkddachs

The Culling
Zen gardener – today

y Jay Weidner
Author’s note: This is an updated essay that first appeared in the book Secrets and Suppressed II from Feral House Publishing. Copyright 2008.

There is a plan.

The Plan has been in effect for 35 years, at least, possibly over a hundred years.

I have a name for the Plan. I call it The Culling.

The final stages of the Plan, The Culling, are about to occur…..

http://www.zengardner.com/culling/

http://jayweidner.com/TheCulling2.html

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by getem on April 26, 2015 @ 12:00 pm

Geeeeez, it does get pretty ridiculous 😉

getem
getem

We had the last, fake I believe, pregnancy of Kate and William and the “suiciding” of a nurse due to a prank call. All not true I would hazard a guess. I believe it has been put forward that a member of Camilla the camel’s family actually was a surrogate for the baby. I believe Greg Hallet put this forward as a strong possibility.

Now we are told there is a superbug in the hospital where Kate is supposedly going to give birth. Another fake pregnancy I would surmise. Superbug will stop people entering the hospital at the crucial time I bet! It is expected to be all cleared up by next week. Very convenient!!!

DO THEY THINK WE ARE ALL STUPID! OH, wait, yes they do! The stupid ones are THEM thinking we can’t see through these charades!

Rhonda

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/superbug-closes-ward-at-hospital-where-duchess-of-cambridge-due-to-give-birth/story-fnisprwn-1227321535404?from=public_js

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

…”I know without doubt that Divine consciousness/God/Spirit, or whatever name one gives that concept, exists within each of us and that we have powers & abilities that when fully expressed will end the game of the dark for good. I believe that process is happening now.”
Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 11:12 am

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“Asolutely stefie, and the controllers have known this all along. They’ve co-opted this knowledge and gave us religion so we’d spend our lifetimes chasing shadows. Now as the truth brews forth, they’ve marched out all types of distraction and doubt.
Use it as fuel and burn it at their expense.”

Comment by gillfinn on April 26, 2015 @ 11:28 am
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yes,yes,yes—I am so with both of you!

How exciting to be a hu-man rose unfurling our petals. The quickening indeed. Sophia is right on time, whatever that is. 😉

xoxoxox

gillfinn
gillfinn

I know without doubt that Divine consciousness/God/Spirit, or whatever name one gives that concept, exists within each of us and that we have powers & abilities that when fully expressed will end the game of the dark for good. I believe that process is happening now.
Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 11:12 am

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Asolutely stefie, and the controllers have known this all along. They’ve co-opted this knowledge and gave us religion so we’d spend our lifetimes chasing shadows. Now as the truth brews forth, they’ve marched out all types of distraction and doubt.
Use it as fuel and burn it at their expense.

azure
azure

When Cobra speaks of Karma, he is referring to your condition. If you were born poor and destitute, it is not because of a crime you committed in a former life.

When the Event happens, the global reset, then these things will be go away. It is not your lot to be born in bitterness, poor in wealth and poor in spirit because of past transgressions. You do not owe anyone anything but to live your life and to be happy.

All peoples of this planet are human beings. We all deserve to be free, live in the pursuit of happiness and to be free of environmental destruction, poverty and global hunger.

azure
azure

Secret Space War III: Marduk Lands in Africa ?
Posted by Preston James, Ph.D on July 5, 2013
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/05/secret-space-war-iii-marduk-lands-in-africa/
Comment by secondlife on April 26, 2015 @ 7:30 am

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According to Sitchin and the Lost Tablets of Enki

Marduk is an Annunaki

9,780 B.C.
Ra/Marduk, Enki’s firstborn son, divides dominion over Egypt between Osiris and Seth.

9,330 B.C.
Seth seizes and dismembers Osiris, assumes sole rule over the Nile Valley.

8,970 B.C.
Horus avenges his father Osiris by launching the First Pyramid War. Seth escapes to Asia, seizes the Sinai peninsula and Canaan.

8,670 B.C.
Opposed to the resulting control of all the space facilities by Enki’s descendants, the Enlilites launch the Second Pyramid War. The victorious Ninurta empties the Great Pyramid of its equipment.

Ninhursag, half-sister of Enki and Enlil, convenes peace conference. The division of Earth is reaffirmed. Rule over Egypt transferred from the Ra/Marduk dynasty to that of Thoth. Heliopolis built as a substitute Beacon City.

Marduk, who purportedly is the son of Ea/Enki, was known in Babylon as Marduk but in Egypt as Ra.

Marduk later translates to Ra then to Lucifer

MardukEnlil summonsed to the Landing Place the Nibirans who survived the flood on the Earth’s peaks and the astronauts in spacecraft orbiting the planet. He also called in his son Nannar from his refuge on the Moon and Enki’s son Marduk from his refuge on Mars.

Marduk reported: “Lahmu [Mars] by the passage of Nibiru was devastated. Its atmosphere was sucked out, its waters evaporated, a place of dust storms it is.” Nannar reported the Moon was only usable with Eagle Masks [helmets].

Annunaki are supposed to be extremely long lived people. The report on VT could easily be describing the original Marduk from over 13,000 years ago.

cfree928
cfree928

http://theyflyblog.com/2015/04/22/new-nasa-discovery-the-earth-is-round/
Comment by mefredsr on April 26, 2015 @ 9:46 am
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Good post! Forget anout Apophis impact presentation for the moment or until 2030 or so… The most important statements that stood out to me were: “the link between earthquakes and “disposal wells” and also “injection of waste-water” in regard to Oklahoma’s problems with F**king Fracking.
Bliss, never the less! 🙂

stefie444
stefie444

Gill, I was sent to Catholic church as a young child and made communion in my little bride’s dress marrying God or was it Jesus. Anyway, I did go to church and Sunday school, and one day as I was sitting there listening to the Nun, looking at my little gold edged prayer book, something inside me (the same something that told me 911 was a lie) said this is a nice story by it’s not the truth. And then I thought that there was something to discover but it just wasn’t through this religion and ultimately I never joined another one either. But I have had very deeply profound personal experiences that have led me on a life long spiritual exploration. I know without doubt that Divine consciousness/God/Spirit, or whatever name one gives that concept, exists within each of us and that we have powers & abilities that when fully expressed will end the game of the dark for good. I believe that process is happening now.

azure
azure

Alipay International

https://intl.alipay.com/index.htm

azure
azure

The alternative to Western Paypal and it’s a going trend these days is to make an Chinese alternative.

IMF —> AIIB

SWIFT —> Russian Wire System

Paypal —> Alipay

http://global.alipay.com/ospay/home.htm

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by gillfinn on April 26, 2015 @ 10:17 am

Thanks Gill. Yes, I do get that point. I just wonder sometimes if we are being distracted purposefully from something else. As far as 911 – I knew from the moment it happened that it was not what was being blasted all over the news – That something treacherous had just happened perpetrated by Bush & Co. I will never forget how every cell in my body vibrated with “this is a lie” – that whole next 8 years was very difficult for me; especially being married to someone who bought it hook line & sinker.

Thanks to all of you who do the footwork to uncover all these jewels of important information.

cfree928
cfree928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG90YYHCSeA

jpn, Rebecca,

What bugs me most about this supposed view from ISS is…why do they have the solar collectors turned away from the sun? One would think that they would want every photon collected when in solar view. The next thing is that I didn’t see a sliver of earth, just sea and clouds…supposedly for nearly 1/3 orbit. It is just composit BS lies, that video IMHO.

gillfinn
gillfinn

D.W. talks about us being quarantined from going into space. That’s one way to think of a possible “dome”. Are we also being quarantined from finding other land masses on the earth plane . . possibly extending to infinity?
Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 10:26 am
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Well, personally, i’ve never had any desire or much wonder of what’s off world.
My questions always have revolved around the ‘thrust’ of religion and its curious fractioning and interpretations. I was booted from church kindergarten for simply asking too many questions.

It’s no wonder science/education/degrees/religion all go hand and hand. More importantly, it’s the realization we live within a box for the mind under constant assault. The current energetics they are attempting to feebly block are organically occurring on call from the inside out. Impossible to block, but our personal distractions/fear slows us down.

They can’t stop it and they’ve resorted to every distraction possible. This is the ‘storm’ Truman sailed into before piercing the veil. The storm appears as a tailor made personal fear with our own fingerprints on it. Our own demons will meet us and either give us what we want, or give us what we need, but both will be on our own account.

The sand fits a crab’s shell perfectly.

rebecca
rebecca

Gil,
The Truman Show affected me more than any other movie…ever. When people ask my favorite movie, I immediately reply T.S. Watching it made me angry and upset far beyond what I thought it “should” have. Now I think I am beginning to know why.

About creating ice/weather right where THEY want it, no doubt in my mind that it is happening NOW. But what about the ancient maps showing the ring of ice completely surrounding the lands and ocean? Was the technology available then, too? Does someone want to trap us here?

D.W. talks about us being quarantined from going into space. That’s one way to think of a possible “dome”. Are we also being quarantined from finding other land masses on the earth plane . . possibly extending to infinity?

mkddachs

Standing Bear-Sioux Chief
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Now I would like to see him on our money because he is honorable..
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SL,
I don’t agree with everything you say but a fair amount and those who have only been here a short time do not have the history with some of the main characters that others here have. How can they unless they go back years and read thru all the posts?

I do believe Caleb has a mean streak in him and one only needs to wait to eventually see that come out, regardless of what it is wrapped in – humor can be very ugly. JMO
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I walked 50 miles in 5 days during the field trials – the last day I spent taking each one of my dogs out in the big field to see if they would spot a bunny – none are as fast as the wild bunnies so no bunnies were hurt but I had one bunny run right in the face of one of my little girls and it chased her down the fence until it passed her up and then she was chasing it for a few minutes – it was so funny, I still chuckle over the sight. What a big whoose she was – I think once she realized she ran from it she was totally embarrassed. If a dog can be embarrassed she was.

My legs actually my body was sore but eventually I started to get a second wind. I became very adapt at setting up my little trailer and breaking it down. I spent very little money at camp sites because I would stop where the truckers stopped and had two sets of crates so I only had to move the dogs from the tahoe to the trailer and get into bed – it worked because I had propane gas and ran the refrig., heater and stove on that. I didn’t worry a bit.

thousands of miles and a new set of tires. One of my little dogs got two second place ribbons out of three days. This was just great. To be in the ribbons with that quality of dogs that we ran against.

I made some in roads with some of the people I have had misunderstandings with – interesting time and well spent.

Regarding my sister with cancer – you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. People who have these health crisis’s must want to change so they can live – if they aren’t ready to raise their consciousness along with mother earth then they won’t make it. We all have to accept other peoples decisions regarding their personal lifes.
Melissa

gillfinn
gillfinn

I mean chem trails, poisoned food and water – on and on it goes and weather it’s being done on a flat or round earth is somehow not important at the end of the day, so to speak..
Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 9:53 am

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Hi stephie, I think the point of it all is understanding that whatever’s creating this question is lack of further acceptance in the status quo. The conspiracy is theirs, the damage to the planet you’ve mentioned is as well. While we’re pulling back the curtain the exposure will continue. To ignore this would be just as wrong as ignoring the rest.

As a matter of fact, all the above serves as a distraction for their biggest lies to come.

Hey Pam, take look at the video rebecca posted above and that’ll give you a better idea. Flat earth is a bad name, but obviously, it’s anything but what they’re claiming, because if it weren’t they could and would show multiple video accountings of the earth in real time from their supposed space stations.

If a real plane hit the pentagon then why did they confiscate all surveillance tape from surrounding cameras? They’d have shown it slamming into the building from ten different angles, but they had to cover up the fact that something other than a plane did the damage and just focus on the lies at hand.

stefie444
stefie444

sorry for all the misspelled words on my last post. My chair is soooo uncomfortable I can’t sit without too much pain. I wonder if I will ever find a chair that is actually comfortable – it hasn’t happened yet.

valtony
valtony

734

gillfinn
gillfinn

I wonder too if they don’t use tech to create and maintain weather/ice right down where they want it.
Remember the Truman Show, when Ed Harris, from the ‘studio’ could bring weather on call? The chemtrailing and use of HAARP is basically mainstream at this point anyway.

stefie444
stefie444

The question that keeps coming up for me is what would be the benefit of lying about the shape of the Earth? No matter what the shape, it’s the events occurring on it that is of concern to me; and I’m trying to figure out what it would accomplish to pretend the earth is round or flat – either way. Other than just being able to fool everyone? Seriously, I must be missing something – and I’m not sure what it is. It’s not like almost all of earth’s and humanities history appears to be a pile of lies anyway. I mean chem trails, poisoned food and water – on and on it goes and weather it’s being done on a flat or round earth is somehow not important at the end of the day, so to speak..

food2
food2

This flat earth discussion is mind-expanding. I am not weighing in because there is just so much yet for me to figure out. What could a flat earth most likely resemble, of what we are already comfortable seeing? Its not supposedly totally flat like a piece of plywood, is it? Half round?

pam

mefredsr
mefredsr

http://theyflyblog.com/2015/04/22/new-nasa-discovery-the-earth-is-round/

However, it must have finally dawned on NASA that we all live together on a round planet, where everything is actually interconnected causally and geophysically. And it appears that they’re taking Meier’s advice even to the degree of partnering with the European Space Agency in a tacit admission that we too have a vested interest in deflecting asteroids, etc., the most threatening one so far being Apophis.

gillfinn
gillfinn

So many more questions . . I am pursuing them.
Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 8:15 am

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Right, that’s the time I think the coverup began, with Admiral Byrd. It all came together with Admiral Byrd’s explorations, I feel he had a solid idea what was ‘south’ and pursued it using the Navy’s extensive resources.
His mistake was thinking all his findings would be made public and benefit humanity.

He was completely double crossed by the complex and I also believe Secretary navy James Forrestal signed his own death warrant by his opposition to the formation of Israel as well as his questioning keeping the public in the dark over Roswell. He was part of Majestic 12 and kept an extensive diary. Supposedly he was meeting with Byrd and conspiring to write a book combining both their accountings of the then current affairs.

I’m guessing he was suicided as a double measure in keeping Byrd quiet too.

rebecca
rebecca

jpm,
Did you watch these 32 seconds of this video? If so, what do you think?

from 28:15 – 28:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyCpWcg-kE&list=PLKDemYz7H5WdnDILP3euZNUAngwCwGQSp

jpm9909
jpm9909

this one’s “fun” too…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWAeDXhEpaQ

the whole thing is time lapse – but since the “camera” (ie-camera in orbit) isn’t “still” – you don’t see the “weather”

jpm9909
jpm9909

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG90YYHCSeA

this one’s a good example. it’s not a time lapse video – so you won’t really be able to see the clouds “moving.”

But pretty convincing to me…. no do we get lied to… of course, but maybe not about this.. just my .02

jpm9909
jpm9909

there’s several videos I’ve found showing a “moving” Earth rotating as they video from above. (with ‘weather’ on the planet to show it’s not a still)

I’m usually pretty good with spotting faked/cg video (being a filmmaker) – so I’m not convinced that ALL these videos are fake.

I get the argument about “never haven left orbit” – but that there’s no “proof” of a globe shape – I’m just too skeptical. 🙂

rebecca
rebecca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXy5IcJMvY

jpm9909,

The picture is a “still frame” and they just slowly scan over the picture so that it APPEARS to be moving . . and so “they” also appear to be moving.

Why can’t this be a live, moving video so that we could see the waves moving and reflecting in the light?

Why can’t we have a simple Live Cam of the revolving earth ball as seen from the ISS? reb

* * * *
Here is the first comment under the video!! Somebody’s waking up!:

3 weeks ago
The most difficult part would be making the clouds animate, they never animate or move, or shift, nothing. The clouds do not move.
hawkins308

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

In my INTENSIVE research into this flat earth idea (40+ hours and at least 10 more researching the researchers), I have found some pretty interesting things: all of the ancient “priest” scientists were all involved with secret societies and/or free masons etc. and most are from “the bloodlines” including:
Copernicus
Pythagoras
Newton

Nasa –all top level are masons
astronauts–all of them are masons

And the connections to the vatican, the so called royal families etc. etc. very interesting.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by jpm9909 on April 26, 2015 @ 8:52 am
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yes.

jpm9909
jpm9909

Just a cursory look on youtube…. found several videos of the earth from space.

Is it the “flat earthers” here on the blog’s position that every video “from space” showing a round earth is fake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXy5IcJMvY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2ZGND1I9Q

Lockheed U-2 Flight – 70,000ft (2 Seat TU-2 Trainer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoMDq4AyLc

NASA’s Orion Space Launch: Success! FULL VERSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCanbuiSywg

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Rebecca, turn to your left. Yup, that’s me right beside you…. pursuing the truth!

For every question I have that gets answered—-2 new ones pop up.
xoxo

rebecca
rebecca

Gil,
Matt thinks it is preposterous that we are trying to explore space, when we haven’t explored Antarctica. (What did Admiral Byrd really find?) Matt wants to cross the Antarctic, not just reach the South Pole.
Tour cruises of Antarctica only involve the Shetland Islands, not the mainland. That would be like seeing Manhattan Island and thinking this is the United States.
Why is the coast so heavily guarded by Coast Guard and Military ships?
And isn’t there a no-fly zone over Antarctica?
So many more questions . . I am pursuing them.

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by secondlife on April 26, 2015 @ 6:50 am

First, I don’t at all get that Patricia left because of any hardship whatsoever; I get the feeling she left because she likes being in control and viewed as an authority of sorts; and that was being challenged, she got huffy about it and figured f— them all and split (or something like that). Anyway that’s my take. And regarding caleb’s style as it related to patricia’s – I don’t see any comparison in style – as patricia had no humor that I could tell… about herself or anyone else, which is why caleb is refreshing regardless if he disagrees with someone or not. If we all agreed this would be a worthless forum, not to mention boring. I could go on and on about comparisons between caleb and patricia, but I just felt that your perception of it was a bit short sighted, IMO. Sort of like comparing fonzie to eddie haskell or some such thing… anyway, that’s what popped into my mind.

deester
deester

Maureen Crowley, the Connecticut lady who confronted the Public Safety Committee about Sandy Hook attended Wolfgang Halbig’s hearing. She has this on her Twitter account.

even the FOIA principle attorney at yesterday’s meeting in Hartford, shook her head in disgust at the deceit and buffoonery of NEWTOWN

max resistance has video of foia meeting with halbig. lots of good people came from all over.

was at FOIA meeting with Wolfgang Halbig. Monte Frank’s hand was shaking like mad. dopey sh “we choose love” bracelet. gag.

50 million for a new school in Newtown, while 18 teachers were laid off. why not build a jail for Llodra, Holder, Halstead, Frank, Obama

Sandy Hook Question: Why didn’t ANY of the 154 spent bullets match ANY of the guns found at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

There is a link to the video in this post.

http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/04/25/video-wolfgang-halbigs-42415-hearing-before-the-connecticut-foi-commission/

gillfinn
gillfinn

A time lapse video of the Earth making a few full rounds could be more convincing. – user1306322 Apr 3 ‘14 at 11:38
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Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 2:45 am
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Hey rebecca, I’d not seen this version though I’ve seen Matt before and I like his stuff, I need to check out part 2.
I can’t stop thinking about the, ‘extra terrestrial’ (more land) beyond and the space time continuum.
Thanks for posting.

secondlife
secondlife

Secret Space War III: Marduk Lands in Africa ?

Posted by Preston James, Ph.D on July 5, 2013

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/05/secret-space-war-iii-marduk-lands-in-africa/

secondlife
secondlife

I don’t pay for cable or satellite… ditched live TV several years back… use Amazon Prime, Netflix and Hulu

I am watching many different TV series… got on the Vampire kick more recently… The Originals (awesome) The Vampire Diaries, and most recent True Blood… lot’s of disclosure of sorts in them all…

Then there are series like The Flash… super hero based… again series disclosure, especially in the “tech” department… going back in time, particle accelerator’s, just packed full of ‘technology’ disclosure…

And now a recent new series called, The Messengers caught my attention…

Most of these series are on The CW Network… anyway…

The Messengers is about a the return of Satan, Anti-Christ dude that comes back to earth via a meteor impact… he is kicked out of Heaven and comes to earth to bring the end of times… and 4 people are effected by the impact of the meteor… become “Angelic” in power and are now in a fight with Satan…

So we have had many Alien shows, Super Hero series, Vampire shows, and now Armageddon… Angels verse Satan… and he rides in on a Meteor…

And that had me thinking about all the talk of the ‘Return’ of Marduke (whatever its name is) the prophecy of the end of days… the return of the Alien Annunaki…

Just seems the next chapter is arriving… just in time for Summer! 😕

I don’t know… but all I do know… is that I cannot watch just about anything without ‘seeing’ something that the sleepers just don’t catch… kind of makes me a drag if you are one of them… and watch a program with me… I just have to point them out! 😛 -Peace

secondlife
secondlife

Comment by XL on April 24, 2015 @ 11:15 pm

“””Re: Comment by calebbrennan on April 24, 2015 @ 12:38 pm
>What a fucking joke that Martha and SL want to convince
>people that she was a victim! Make me barf!

As much as I like Pansy, I have to agree. She was far more of an attacker than a victim, she gave back far more than she got on a daily basis.

That being said, I do not buy the excuse that she left because she was being attacked by trolls. She had been dealing with them quick successfully for years, and it has been much calmer than usual lately.

No, there had to have been another reason.”””

Hey XL… thank you for your remark…

My point, which was taken mistakenly by Caleb, was not about being ‘a victim’ or how she had a tendency to jump on people that she disagreed with, which Caleb, you do exactly the same thing. 🙁

Anyway, my point was in the way she just abruptly stopped posting… as if something ‘made’ he quit… and whether that be by illness or accident… it was an observation that I made and felt warranted a prayer of safety and security.

I mean shit, Pansy was never one to shy from confrontation or debate… she took it to the mat ‘all’ the time.

We may not liker her style or tact, but she was who she was… very smart, opinionate, no doubt, but who isn’t.

And certainly deserving of a prayer. 😉

I think we here, in all our so-called enlightenment, fall very short of even common courtesy at times, just because we ‘think’ we are beyond what the ‘sleepers’ still struggle with. When in actuality, we are just as corrupted by them.

We attack each other… jump at someone who steps up with their beliefs, just because we may disagree.

I was taken out of context… my expressing concern for someone who may ‘need’ help was totally of concern and nothing more.

Caleb… time-and-time ‘again’ you do the very thing that you poke blame for with Patricia… you both are ‘mirrors’ for each other… exactly why you struggle so much with her… she is very much the female version of yourself.

And you jump on me with accusations and fowl language, more like a child and not a 54 year old! 🙁

I am not here to continue time and time again to be dragged down with childish behavior… grow the fuck up bud!

You attach people that disagree with your political views, like Melissa… endlessly at that!

So just learn to accept people for thinking differently than yourself… we can all coexist here with a little more respect and less posturing for attention.

I am sorry for ranting here, especially in what started as a reply to XL, but enough is enough already.

If we see this place as more of a ‘family’ and less of a hang-out spot to take shots at each other, maybe we could improve on things.

It just takes a desire to do so.

Act as if today was our last day here… and how we would like to be remembered. 😉

Everything we think… how we act… creates the very world we live in… it’s as simple as that! -Peace

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 3:59 am
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stefie, this is not a personal dig at you. The link you posted is connected to nesaranews and I believe nothing from that site. Point: In that particular article they cited Gordon Duff “admitting Jade Helm is real and a threat”. They used the article Duff wrote that was clearly SATIRE (and was stated as such under the original article) and nesaranews never mentioned it was satire!

xxxx

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“…. Again, time will tell, and I hope Duff is right.”
Comment by ken74 on April 26, 2015 @ 5:41 am
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I certainly hope Duff is right too….again, we do we really trust? I guess the bottom line always goes back to trust that quiet inner voice within……

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

A zombie? I don’t think so; no one has bitten me on my neck recently. 🙁
Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 6:12 am
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Isn’t it vampires that bite on the neck? I think zombies just sit in front of the t.v. clicking the remote…….looking for a better virtual reality.

😉

rebecca
rebecca

A zombie? I don’t think so; no one has bitten me on my neck recently. 🙁

valtony
valtony

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ken74
ken74

Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 3:59 am
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I wonder some of the same things you do. There’s so much information out there, in regards to JH15, that it’s difficult to discern fact from fiction, and enemy from foe.

Time will tell which side truth falls on. Currently, one of the only people I’ve found that speaks AGAINST Jade Helm is Gordon Duff, and he seems very selective on the information he wants to dismiss, imho. Again, time will tell, and I hope Duff is right.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Rebecca will always be remembered as,… Wait a second

A virtual Lazarus, I tell you

Rising from the dead in one night!

You’re not a zombie are you?

rebecca
rebecca

Yes! 😉
Seeing Chip’s post was like viewing my obituary.
I was waiting for folks to post all wonderful things about me.

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Comment by rebecca on April 26, 2015 @ 2:45 am

Yea! Rebecca lives!

wolfintimber

Standing Bear-Sioux Chief:QUOTE-9) …the old Lakota was wise. He knew that a man’s heart, away from nature, becomes hard; he knew that lack of respect for growing, living things soon led to lack of respect for humans, too. So he kept his children close to nature’s softening influence.:UNQUOTE…..

True teachings – wisdoms from an enlightened culture of the great tribes of the Americas…..

http://www.idealistrevolution.org/10-quotes-from-a-sioux-indian-chief-that-will-make-you-question-everything-about-modern-culture/

stefie444
stefie444

http://starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/04/25/critical-alert-for-all-american-patriots-from-anonymous-2/

Anybody seen this yet? The comments section is worth reading also. Very well developed discernment is now essential to even begin to see what is real/true. I’m beginning to wonder if the “white hats” are all good guys or just another version of the black hats – a BS smoke screen. Even those who may have started out with high ideals, may now either be cloned, mind controlled or simply migrated to the dark. However, in the silent quiet place within where eternal knowledge resides, you can get clarity on most of it. May the Force by with us ♥

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 26, 2015 @ 2:21 am

Wow, I’m impressed – you are a true minimalist. Awesome. Me, I’m not quite there. I have all the things you mentioned but my cell phone is still a little flip phone – no smart? phone for me. I don’t plan to spend the day looking a little rectangle in my hand 🙂 I don’t get that, but there must be something wondrous about it since everyone seems transfixed with them.

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal NEws April 25th, 2015

7 Simple But Powerful Shifts to Help You Achieve Your Dreams

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/04/25/7-simple-but-powerful-shifts-to-help-you-achieve-your-dreams/

There is but one purpose in this life: to give yourself fully to your dreams with all of your heart.

+ Be Well +

Truth

rebecca
rebecca

These 37 seconds of this video show the ONLY time-laspe video of the earth supposedly spinning as a ball in space. It represents 30% of the earth (about 8 hours worth), and there are no moving, mutating, dissolving clouds!!??

from 28:15 – 28:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyCpWcg-kE&list=PLKDemYz7H5WdnDILP3euZNUAngwCwGQSp

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/25/jade-helm-hoaxters-cite-whiskey-warehouse-as-fema-camp/

“Jade Helm Hoaxters Cite Whiskey Warehouse as Fema “Human Remains” Storage”
“Fear Porn and Comedy meet in Epic Fail”

‘The internet virtually buzzed as a massive FEMA prison facility was located in Loretto, Kentucky, also and quite mysteriously, the well known home of Makers Mark, whose fine bourbon has kept Americans “imbibed” for over a century. Our moderator’s FEMA sign for the “blacked out” prison warehouse says “No Smoking.” Do I have to mention why?

The photo featured in the video is taken from the back fence. This is hardly “back woods.” Loretto is located in the flat farming country of Western-Central Kentucky. Dahboo’s source, a “local contractor” with “inside knowledge” was somehow unaware that his “newly built FEMA facility” has been a regional landmark for over a century.”

more on site with photos.

rebecca
rebecca

” . . . us finally waking up to the fact that there is only one image of the earth from the Apollo 17 mission. And they play with the contrast to make you think there are thousands – but you only have one – and they use it in science books.
It’s 2015 and they don’t even have any real-time camera footage of the earth as a ball from space, spinning in a real-time video.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyCpWcg-kE&list=PLKDemYz7H5WdnDILP3euZNUAngwCwGQSp

at the 53:11 mark

A time lapse video of the Earth making a few full rounds could be more convincing. – user1306322 Apr 3 ’14 at 11:38

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ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

I certainly am not trying to convince anyone the earth is flat. We must all do our own research on whatever strikes us.

I have always believed that we must question EVERYTHING. Then we use our gifts of critical thinking and intuitive sensing.

As intelligent beings I believe we must always be in pursuit of mind expansion and the willingness to look at and let go of old ideas.

The following vid is one that slapped me across the face (gently of course) and helped me turn a corner. It opened my mind to new possibilities that had not occurred to me before.

It is by Eric Dubay, the young man whose rather long, and thought provoking quote I posted in the wee hours of this morning…when I should have been sleeping. hahha I have researched him personally a lot too.

He says of himself: “I’m a 32 year old American living in Thailand where I teach Yoga and Wing Chun (kung fu) part-time while exposing the New World Order full-time.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH86yBK-ZsY

“Ancient Flat Earth Beliefs” 38 minutes

‘The following video examines the Geocentric Flat Earth beliefs of ancient cultures such as the Mayans, Navahoes, and Dogons, sacred texts such as the Indian Vedas, Christian Bible and Muslim Koran, and mysterious maps such as Mercator’s North polar projection and assorted Babylonian, Korean and medieval European wheel maps. In this video I also present evidence that Atlantis, the fabled lost city/continent, is actually a description of the flat Earth before the biblical flood.”

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“Caleb, Maybe you are ahead of the curve – I don’t even have a TV 🙂 ”
Comment by stefie444 on April 26, 2015 @ 1:34 am
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Stefie, I don’t have a t.v. either—haven’t for many, many years. I don’t have a microwave, no clothes dryer and many other items. Do fine w/o them. I do have a cell phone, little cheapo track phone, for emergencies if i am out and about….Still have my land line for every day use….

stefie444
stefie444

Caleb, Maybe you are ahead of the curve – I don’t even have a TV 🙂

stefie444
stefie444

Here’s a little something to think about. Some perspectives on “flat earth” concept.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/106543/why-earth-looks-always-flat-when-it-is-round

Why earth looks always flat when it is round
This question already has an answer here:

What is the simplest way to prove the Earth is round? 12 answers.

beegee
beegee

Re:
The flat Earth subject.

“As above, so below.”

Is it possible that the cells in our bodies hold the answer?

A blood cell is toroidal with a membrane across the center, and depending on the point of view, could appear to be round or flat.

deester
deester

Comment by mrxjokermeganadam on April 25, 2015 @ 11:49 pm

I found it on Youtube and am halfway through listening. Check out the photos of Sandy Hook grunge school at http://imgur.com/a/sBfhz No kids would have been allowed there.

Here are the actors. (Sorry, other posters scrolling fingers are going to get sore.)

Here are some of the participants in this nonsense. They come from the Greenberg/Sexton clan and appear in a lot of this crap. A quick search for Tony Greenberg turns up many roles. He has played Bin Laden’s son, the underwear bomber and other roles as well.

http://www.whale.to/c/tony_greenberg.html

Sandy Hook Lingerie Massacre Debra Rochon plays a parent at the school.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/sidebysideellaseaveracressrochon_zps05b7bbe4.png.html

Funeral of Sandy Hook victim on right, Greenberg family album off Picasa on left.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/BlondeGreenberggalwithRoxannaGreen_zps5cb01ee6.png.html

Grieving Victoria Soto family (looking very happy to have just lost their sister) on left, from Leon Greenberg’s Facebook page on right.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/greenbergkidgrownupwithsotobrother_zps25678e74.png.html

Shooting victim (with nose putty and lip liner) Mary Sherlach on left, Jane Vogel Brickell in Greenberg album on right.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/marysherlachvsunknownwomaninGreenbergalbum_zps37dd56f1.png.html

Mary Sherlach with daughter on left, Greenberg album on right.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/maurasherlachwithgreenberggirl_zps102561d1.png.html

She is played by Jane Vogel Brickell. Here is her facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/jane.brickell?fref=ts

Jennifer Sexton (a Greenberg) plays the grieving Phelps woman, along with her husband.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/3lauraphelpsandjennifersextononleft_zps7c907b01.png.html

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/phepleimposters2_zps63333b45.png.html

They are actors who goes by Phelps, although they are Sextons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uwZ7W-xqp4&feature=youtu.be

Gene Rosen, who got a free house, caught looking undistraught at the scene.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/geneRosenhairfromwhitetobrownnobeardbutgoatee_zps2a2e0ae1.png.html

Liz Harmon (a Greenberg) played the role of Dawn Hochsprung, the principal who talked to the Newtown Bee even though she was allegedly dead at the time.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/lizharmondawnhochsprung_zpsec23caff.png.html

Here is her facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/liz.harmon.775?fref=ts

She is also In this pic with the other fakers.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/blondewomanwithroxannagreene_zps54c4ac97.png.html

Caitlyn Roig is Kelly Harmon. She also played a role of victim in the Boston Marathon bullshit routine. (They announced there was a bomb drill happening at the marathon and there was a posting by a local news outlet that there was going to be an explosion right by the library prior to it happening.)

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/kaitlinroigphonyteachersandyhookisreallyrileyharmon_zps1c580caa.png.html

Alleged victim Noah Posner on right, with Greenberg clan on the left.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/NoahPoznerinGreenbergkidsphoto_zpsaba76ad5.png.html

His story is really bad bs. His mother alleges to be Jewish, yet states that she and her daughter went running out right after his death and got tattoos, against the Leviticus dictate against Jews getting tattoos. She also states that she had an open casket funeral for him so that the governor could see what damage the guns cause – also against Jewish teaching. Right after his faked death, she was on the media griping about gun control.

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/03/the-curious-parents-of-sandy-hook-child-victim-noah-pozner/

He shows up as a victim in a Pakistani school shooting later.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/01/02/bombshell-sandy-hook-victim-dies-again-in-pakistan-this-is-bizarre/?hc_location=ufi

Here is “Laura Phelps” who lost a kid on Leon Greenberg’s page identified as Liz Harmon and shooting victim schoolteacher Victoria Soto’s alleged brother.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/jensextonakalauraphelpsleongreenbergfacebook2009_zps7a5fe4c8.png.html

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/Sotobriotherleongrenbergfacebook2009_zpsb1c9442a.png.html

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/Sotobroleongreenbergmatchonfacebook2009_zps64cdf5e7.png.html

Carlee Soto, happy happy joy joy, sister to dead Victoria Soto, is Samantha Sexton.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/carhttp://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/BlondeGreenberggalwithRoxannaGreen_zps5cb01ee6.png.htmlleesotoandsamsexton_zpsa68c32ec.png.html

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/sotobroandsextonbro_zps8b863c51.png.html

Comparison of her teeth.

http://s612.photobucket.com/user/retklb2009/media/gapinteethcarleesotosamsexton_zps0641a7fd.png.html

intruth
intruth

Recently, DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart was questioned about the problems with DEA agents enjoying prostitutes’ services apparently provided by the very cartels those agents were sent to investigate in Colombia.

https://youtu.be/Eo7CDCG5sFo

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/what-colombian-prostitutes-can-teach-us.html

mrxjokermeganadam
mrxjokermeganadam

Deester,

I watched the last hour or so, and had it on my phone too. Thanks soooo much for the link. I would never have found it without you. I had to keep finding links as they cut out several times and wouldn’t work. but I got to see or listen to some of it. They really did run around in shameless circles delaying the proceedings. Now I found this link to a lawsuit which could stop Halbig from getting info because they can say “pending law suits”. They are supposedly rescheduling the rest of this, but I am not so sure now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAtW8Bgiid8

BTW I saw the same crisis actors on other false flag ops, and a photo of Noah Posner on a billboard as a victim:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A0LEVrYdpjtV6iwA.FknnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0dmRibmhwBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMV8x?p=posner+on+billboard+in+pakistan+islamabad&tnr=21&vid=A67C8FD23E6B9D1D010BA67C8FD23E6B9D1D010B&l=3238&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DWN.hhegPdN9ZT0ZiUOap58fkA%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11v6cftde&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftune.pk%2Fvideo%2F5622033%2Filluminati-purposely-put-noah-posner-picture-in-pakistani-massacre-propaganda&sigr=13aepkehn&tt=b&tit=Illuminati+Purposely+Put+Noah+Posner%E2%80%99s+Picture+In+…&sigt=11nu6kvms&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dposner%2Bon%2Bbillboard%2Bin%2Bpakistan%2Bislamabad%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-004%26hspart%3Dmozilla%26fr%3Dyhs-mozilla-004&sigb=148o8l81l&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

Yet when I tell people they just shrug their shoulders! aaarrrgghh!

valtony
valtony

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intruth
intruth

Tennessee Set to Stop Cooperating With Federal Disarmament Efforts

The bill passed the state senate unanimously (30-0), while the vote in the state house of representatives was a less impressive, though overwhelming 74 lawmakers in favor and 20 opposed.

more –
http://govtslaves.info/tennessee-set-to-stop-cooperating-with-federal-disarmament-efforts/

gillfinn
gillfinn

When computers/internet first hit the mainstream I was struck by the accompanying ‘language’ surrounding the entire realm. It appeared as though it was/had been a part of the lexicon/lingo hidden for a number of years and then simply unveiled, as though someone (group) decided it was ok to unveil upon the masses.

In other words, like everything, it’s rolled out at a specific point in time. We (the public) all ‘hear/see/read/discover/experience’ about it at relatively the same time. The military industrial complex has had ample time to ‘build’ it into their infrastructure before the public receives/completes the ‘mirror’.

It reminded me of explorers entertaining native tribes with technology they’d had for years. Everything has been kept from the rest of us by a few. All has been in the name of control and separation, technology has been used as a fence/distraction toward the masses as opposed to serving mankind as Tesla and others had wanted.

A quick example is Rudolph Diesel who worked for years perfecting an engine that ran on peanut oil, eventually any type of plant based oil. This was his first intention, to perfect a more ‘user’ friendly engine, less expensive, burning a more diverse, cleaner fuel. It was an ‘alternative’ to petroleum, originally called, the ‘oil engine’. He was granted a German patent in 1892 for a ‘bio fuel’ internal combustion engine. In 1883 Diesel published a book titled “Theory and a Rational Thermal Engine to Replace the Steam Engine and the Combustion Engines Known Today”.

In September of 1913 he was traveling across the English Channel to attend the opening of his newest engine factory. He never made it, his body was discovered in the North Sea 10 days later. His death, promptly ruled a suicide, even though his family refused that final declaration. Years later, most know, or at least suspect he was killed just as many others have been. Fitting that upon his death, the ‘Diesel’ engine went on to be a great success, burning only petroleum, ‘diesel fuel’ in his name. There is a ‘real’ history out there and it’s all just waiting to be discovered.

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https://higherdensity.wordpress.com/tag/domed-flat-earth-spaceship
Ukdenadreamer – I was trying to find something on your dome experience and I came across this video. Maybe you’ve seen it already. Frankly, it’s something I can’t really understand at all, but thought I’d post it and you could see if it resonates.
Comment by stefie444 on April 25, 2015 @ 2:26 pm

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Hi stefie, this was over my head for the most part, but at 6:00 there is a paragraph that really struck me. Paraphrasing: the earth is propelled by our collective thoughts/beliefs as we sleep and enter portals, waking with sore shoulders, headaches, etc…it resonated from the perspective of ‘control/destiny shifting back to ‘us’ as we discover these truths and take it back. We have had a buffer of lies mixed with ‘reveals’ hidden within all forms of media. I just finished a ‘histumentary’ on the same.

“Chains You Can Believe In’

https://vimeo.com/grahamhayward/chainsyoucanbelievein

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Hey ukdena, this just needed to be reposted, another gem.

many things are flat. Think of sea creatures…manta rays for example. Many rocks are flat….because one says the earth is flat does not mean there is no depth, width and/or length.

the concept, maybe reality, of a flat earth is not suggesting a pancake one could either eat or fall of off the edge…. The idea is that Antarctica totally surrounds the circular land mass with the artic being the center. Antartica is an ice mass thousans of feet high …..who really knows how thick this earth is? the holy scientist priests (ouch biting tongue) have never, ever been more than several miles deep….they use conjecture and speculation to impress us with their “wizardly knowings”. I remain unimpressed.

The ancients, including very, vety ancient vedic teachings talk of the firmament…… above us and below us. Some said we, the earth and us, live within a cosmic egg…keeping us out of the water the egg floats in….
Another concept: we live not on a ball but a plane…….who knows how big it actually is? Maybe a huge circle surrounded by antartica as I have already said, and beyond that circle…another and another and…..rather than open space—— ongoing circles of life forms……

Our plane(t) is alive—–a sentient being…not a lifeless, spiritless giant rock.
Perhaps the sun is NOT 93 million, or is it supposedly billion, miles away? Perhaps it, and the moon are under the dome as well?
John Lamb Lash as said that the Gnostic writings tell us that the earth, sun and moon (a construct) are all that is “real”.

The archons made the other “planets” to have for their own purposes. a holographic universe?
I have come to the conclusion that everything we have been taught is a lie. Might as well be prepared for disclosure—– whether it is here or in the next world.
The probability of endless possibilities is increasing……….
xxxx

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 6:19 pm

intruth
intruth

Dutchsinse

4/25/2015 — 7.8 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE IN NEPAL (INDIA / CHINA) — EARTHQUAKE UNREST OBVIOUS

APRIL 25, 2015 MICHAEL JANITCH

As if we needed any more indications we are in a serious global earthquake unrest event — a 7.8 magnitude earthquake struck South Central China (NE India) in Nepal, additionally, multiple dozen 4.0 – 5.0 – and 6.0M earthquakes have occurred as aftershocks at this location.

Yesterday’s earthquake forecast was calling for a greater than 7.0M to strike China into Siberia…. the area just South was hit.

Here is yesterdays earthquake forecast warning for a coming 7.0M+ earthquake over in China / Russia due to DEEP movement below the plates.

https://youtu.be/6N8JU2ep8H4

intruth
intruth

BREAKING: “Mega Mega” 7.9 Quake Nepal 758 Dead And Injured

Paul Begley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOgekQHM55M&feature=youtu.be

intruth
intruth
intruth
intruth

What Will Happen to You When the Dollar Collapses?
By Jeff Thomas

Excerpt:
The big question that is generally not being discussed is: The day after the crash (and thereafter), what will be the currency that is used to buy a bag of groceries, a tank of petrol, a meal at a restaurant? Certainly, the need will be immediate and will be on a national level in each impacted country, affecting everyone.

And Then…

I have discussed for some time that the US will be prepared ahead of time with a new, electronic currency. This will serve three purposes:

It will allow the US government to blame paper currencies for the crash, in order to distract the public from recognising that the government itself is the culprit.
It will allow the US government to create a currency system that disallows the holding of tradable currency by the population—that is, a debit card would be created by banks through which all transactions must pass, assuring that all transactions are processed by (and thereby subject to the control of) a bank.

It will allow the US government to have knowledge of every penny earned and spent by any individual or organization, allowing for direct-debit income taxation.
If the US does institute such a system, US citizens will then become the most economically controlled people in the world, overnight.

It’s likely that a black-market system would spontaneously be created by US citizens in order to bypass the new government system. A portion of daily trade would occur under the table. It would unquestionably be made illegal, and we can only speculate as to how prevalent it would become: 10% of all transactions? 30%? Anyone’s guess. Certainly, the government would crack down, and penalties might become severe.

more –
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/what-will-happen-to-you-when-dollar.html

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on April 25, 2015 @ 9:13 pm

I cancelled with them myself. Sure some of his info is ok, which most scammers will mix into the BS, but when I read between the lines, I could see how he is working this in his favor.

intruth
intruth

My husband got up early to mow the lawn this morning. Little did he know that it was snowing earlier and its 36 degrees now here in PA.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Stansberry to me, is a scammer, trying to both scam the scammers, and the people at the same time. He’s working both sides of the fence.

intruth
intruth

Comment by marhuff55 on April 25, 2015 @ 9:07 pm

Yes, they do make an incredible amount of $ on their subscription service(s). I cancelled everything I ever had long ago. But I did learn from the info.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on April 25, 2015 @ 9:00 pm

Stansberry is nothing but hard core salesman. I signed up with him once, paid his fee, and regretted it later. All he did was push me into buying what ever he could sell to me.

intruth
intruth

Comment by marhuff55 on April 25, 2015 @ 8:47 pm

Agree. It does seem like the IMF is worming its way into the new system. But this article is mainstream – I can show it to doubters. At least get them to protect themselves.

Everyone is going to be running to purchase assets, gold/silver – even more than is already occurring.

It’s hard for me to read Stansberry – they don’t identify the IMF for what if really is. There is good info there though.

intruth
intruth

more from Corey/GoodETxSG

Corey,

Question:

Does the BA know about the Keshe Foundation and if so are they involved with this institution?[/B]

The Blue Avians are not involved in this foundation or any other business or research groups on earth… There is no need. Technology beyond this is already developed and in use at this time and just needs to be released. This is what the SSP Alliance has been working towards (One of the things).
TY,
G

http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot/page96

marhuff55
marhuff55

When they can come forward with a new system that doesn’t have the word “interest” or “interest rate” attached to it, I’ll think about it then.

intruth
intruth

Another post from Corey/GoodETxSG

On the note off “Disinfo” there have been recent developments, this is a major topic I am writing about in my “Report”…

We are entering a new time period that I have been briefed on that will be considered a very confusing “Disinformation War” to control the narrative and also manipulate the very powerful tool of humanities joint consciousness and its co-creative abilities. There are also some groups that are trapped here, who’s “Custodian gods” have abandoned them or put them up as a pawn to barter their own freedom with who are now in total panic and turning on one another.

Now that they know they will be trapped here for the “Events” and many unsettling disclosures they are putting everything they have into their massive disinfo campaigns to control the narrative as much as possible. Their heads are literally on the line and they are highly motivated.

This briefing has indicated that most of these agents have either been in place for some time not knowing of their role or have recently come on the scene with a carefully planed out agenda and PsyOp/Disinfo campaign that has started to trickle but is set to turn into a flood. Those with poor discernment or easily jump from topic to topic based on what is new or intellectually interesting are going to have a very hard time of it. Those few with well developed discernment are going to have to stand fast.

These are going to be very cleverly designed operations that use long established belief systems along with some very new and highly deceptive disinformation to sway as many as possible. It will confuse many and will get some attention off of them for the short term. However when the full disclosure of their crimes against humanity are revealed they will just have to stand there slack jawed and take what comes their way by the angry masses who have been deceived for so long.

I was not encouraged by the latest briefing about this new disinfo campaign but not shocked by it either. Put on your seat belts… Its going to be real mind musher of a time in the coming weeks and months ahead.

TY,
G

http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot/page95

getem
getem

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 8:01 pm

Oh poor little mite! Hope he is feeling much better now. Sounds like he may be if he is having a nap. Enjoy your coffee Ukdena and then try and have a restful day yourself.

Had to take one of our daughters girls to the chiro last week. She hurt her hip and was in terrible pain. Like new again except for a bit of limping when she first gets up, but she is all smiles again now. They are no different to our children, we worry about them and love them just the same!

Rhonda

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by intruth on April 25, 2015 @ 8:29 pm

I would be leary about anything the IMF has their mitts in. To me, it’s just a new system under the same dirtbag controllers.

intruth
intruth

Word is getting around

First Look: U.S. Dollar Substitute to Go Public on Oct 20th?
04.23.2015 BY KELLY BROWN, STANSBERRY RESEARCH

Excerpt:
And on Oct 20th of this year, the IMF is expected to announce a reserve currency alternative to the U.S. dollar, which will send hundreds of billions of dollars moving around the world, literally overnight.

http://thecrux.com/dyncontent/dollar-substitute-coming/?cid=MKT035907&eid=MKT042439

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

what should I do with all the flat rocks that I have painted on?
hahahaha.
xxxx
——————————

Skipping stones

to new dimesions

marhuff55
marhuff55

I’m still awaiting a response back from PayPal about their new user agreement deception. If I get one, I’ll copy and paste it here. Their reasoning behind it should be very very interesting. Again, “if” they respond back.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 8:07 pm

I love the smell of freshly brewed coffee in the morning. I never start my day without a cup or two, or three…, oh well you understand.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

and agoooood morning to you as well Martin.

I am off to grind some coffee beans and perk some coffee. Yum.

oh, and yes to everything you said.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 7:39 pm

“We really have allowed the scientists to take a lofty position as “experts”.”

Yep, you hit the nail on the head there. To me, the label “expert”, is used as nothing but an ego booster to those people. Not one person in all reality can claim to be an expert on anything. Not when, in all reality, all knowledge is within every one of us. One just has to do the work to find it.

By the way, I forgot to say “gooood moooorning ukdena”. 🙂

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by getem on April 25, 2015 @ 7:54 pm
********
…and I hope the same for you.

I only got 2 hours of sleep this night. My little doggie love was not feeling well and had to go outside a number of times…. Finally I knew sleep was not in my cards for tonight. I see a lovely nap waiting for me today. 🙂 Of course he is sleeping soundly now.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

……”You know I love you”
\
Comment by calebbrennan on April 25, 2015 @ 6:59 pm
*******
and i love you caleb.
what should I do with all the flat rocks that I have painted on?
hahahaha.
xxxx

getem
getem

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 6:30 pm

Hi yourself my friend in America! Hope you are keeping well!

Take care

Rhonda

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by stefie444 on April 25, 2015 @ 2:26 pm
********
Thanks for the thought and vid Stefie. That is one I watched. Don’t feel alone, I didn’t really get that one either….
xxxxx

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Our plane(t) is alive—–a sentient being…not a lifeless, spiritless giant rock.\

Thats a given

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“…..Focus and manifest your intentions…”
Comment by belle3 on April 25, 2015 @ 7:30 pm
**********
Belle….We all have allowed the controllers to focus and manifest their intentions for all of us. The jig is up!!! There are more and more of us taking our power back. I will not stay confined in their construct, soooo I must let go of all their illusions that science and religion have force fed me.

This whole flat earth thing threw me for a loop at first. What? Huh? Why is it any more bizarre than anything else? I don’t know if it is real. Now I accept that I don’t know if the globe earth is real either. We have been lied to about everything.

I love this place—- we can discuss anything and disagree yet usually remain cordial. A lot of my firmly held beliefs have been squelched on this cafe. hooray.
xxxx

belle3
belle3

It’s 3:44 am here, we are an hour behind you Ukdena. I still get to sleep another hour.

Time to get off the merry-go-round, it just no fun anymore.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

giznt is giant

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

marhuff55 on April 25, 2015 @ 7:17 pm
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Martin, who knows? I just know that I am releasing all that I have been taught—-opening up my mind to endless possibilities!

All this research into the flat earth has definitely opened new, larger, neural pathways in my brain. Everything is so “fluid” , holding on to rigid ideas seems so silly…..

We really have allowed the scientists to take a lofty position as “experts”. If they are such experts how come the “latest, greatest theory and/or discovery chanes with each generation? hahahaha

We, divine beings, have given all of our power to religion, science and government. That is the great awakening. Just think….whatever illusion the controllers want us to believe, and exist in, they create it and we all just move in.

This entire “flat” earth idea might be a giznt psy op, OR it may be the truth that will be the catalyst for the shattering of the illusion created by the magicians. …..

Well, 4:38 am…time to get up. Oh, I am up. hahahahaha
xxxx

belle3
belle3

Marhuff: Thanks.

Caleb: Spirals sound good, need new terminology, have always been fascinated as look like “star gates” or Crichton’s worm holes “spirals”. We are just being readied for new ideas, evolution. No.

Yeah everyone is up tonight!

belle3
belle3

Ukdena: I agree with you and Gill. Not at first, but it is starting to make a strange sense, but you are so right everything is a lie. We are told everything we know is the opposite of what we were told, everything.

This maybe is a prison planet witha dome “cup of sky” we look at nightly, or even as Nugget states in his post. I have seen pictures, but did not understand on YouTube. There is one a pole with a flat plane, earth. I thought was fake, but now?

Check out Mars photos, with buildings filled in where it is supposed to be deserts? Interesting. More questions.

Being raised catholic, and to find out mass is a child sacrifice ritual, this was the body and blood of Christ, blahha!!!!

As a child still confusing being told to pretend as to above reference; but if have you pretend friends/imagination–the company goes nuts. Rules were for their agenda, because adults did not follow same set, i.e. Sexual predation. Now knock off the bs, and get your thinking straightened out, they tell you as a kid.

We are seeing London now bombarded with good loving thoughts, (as sylphs in sky to eat chemtrails). Just replace the negativity of heavy, dark thoughts with Love and Light thoughts/intentions. Is it working? Why? There have been more major breakthroughs/setbacks for cabalbozos/illuminasnotties in England past few days. People are getting it, just because we don’t know them—It is working, Why?

Focus and manifest your intentions…

It is done!! If not start over and do it again. It feels good to finally see something good happen, because I tire of everyone being sheep on their menu.

Sorry for length and thanks for reading.

Thanks again, Ukdenadreamer!

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 6:19 pm

I love this subject you are discussing.

“The ancients, including very, vety ancient vedic teachings talk of the firmament…… above us and below us.”

Could what they are talking about, be the other dimensions that surrounds the one that we are in(above and below), and that firmament, like here, is also a part of those realities?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Infor wars vs and Paypal

If this bullshit was paypals motto they would last about a half second as a service provider.

Total garbage

marhuff55
marhuff55

Wow ukdena, you’re up and about bright and way early this morning. 🙂

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by belle3 on April 25, 2015 @ 6:32 pm

“Could I ask you questions, if also happening?”

Sure, no problem, and, thank you. 🙂

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

.many things are flat.

Think of sea creatures…manta rays for example.
—————————————————
Manta rays are a living wave pattern, not flat in any way
————————————————–

Many rocks are flat
—————————————

no rocks are flat

Even the skippies I search for on the beach to skip across the water. I search for the best ones but none are flat!
——————————————————

….because one says the earth is flat does not mean there is no depth, width and/or length.
———————————————

Well then “Flat” is a wrong term to apply what you are discussing, And I suggest shifting the terminology.

And describe what that shape is in geometric form.

For me Ooky it is all interlocking spirals.that creare sets and subsets.

You know I love you
\

belle3
belle3

Marhuff55 @ 5:57pm: this has happened on another site also where I use PuayPal. They have put together another site beginning on May 1. I am now compelled to look into this further. Could I ask you questions, if also happening? Thanks for all you do.

Belle

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by getem on April 25, 2015 @ 1:07 pm
***********
Hello my friend from Australia.
xxxx

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I do have a Tv in my apartment that I rarly turn on.

It one of those old models, with a cathode raytube and everthing. weighs a ton

but everybody is getting “Flat Screen Monitors”

I’m sure a “flat” bigger screen must be better, it just costs an arm and a leg

The mood of consumers is “Big and Flat is better”

I am so behind the curve

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

excuse spelling errors —- i-pad has a mind of it’s own AND it is 3 a.m. hahaha

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

….”nothing in the world is flat,
all things in nature have depth width and length
Flat is a term that has no meaning”

Comment by calebbrennan on April 25, 2015 @ 5:46 pm

*******
caleb,….many things are flat. Think of sea creatures…manta rays for example. Many rocks are flat….because one says the earth is flat does not mean there is no depth, width and/or length.

the concept, maybe reality, of a flat earth is not suggesting a pancake one could either eat or fall of off the edge…. The idea is that Antarctica totally surrounds the circular land mass with the artic being the center. Antartica is an ice mass thousans of feet high …..who really knows how thick this earth is? the holy scientist priests (ouch biting tongue) have never, ever been more than several miles deep….they use conjecture and speculation to impress us with their “wizardly knowings”. I remain unimpressed.

The ancients, including very, vety ancient vedic teachings talk of the firmament…… above us and below us. Some said we, the earth and us, live within a cosmic egg…keeping us out of the water the egg floats in….

Another concept: we live not on a ball but a plane…….who knows how big it actually is? Maybe a huge circle surrounded by antartica as I have already said, and beyond that circle…another and another and…..rather than open space—— ongoing circles of life forms……

Our plane(t) is alive—–a sentient being…not a lifeless, spiritless giant rock.

Perhaps the sun is NOT 93 million, or is it supposedly billion, miles away? Perhaps it, and the moon are under the dome as well?

John Lamb Lash as said that the Gnostic writings tell us that the earth, sun and moon (a construct) are all that is “real”. The archons made the other “planets” to have for their own purposes. a holographic universe?

I have come to the conclusion that everything we have been taught is a lie. Might as well be prepared for disclosure—– whether it is here or in the next world.

The probability of endless possibilities is increasing……….
xxxx

marhuff55
marhuff55

Hey all, I got a response back from Ben about the PayPal update. And thanks Mozart, for doing the same thing. I just wasn’t sure if anyone else had sent a note to him or not. Here is what he said:

Me:
Subject: A new PayPal policy you may want to be aware of.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 15:56:57 -0400

Hello Ben,
If it hasn’t been brought to your attention yet, you may want to read this new PayPal policy that they just added to their user agreement.

Excerpt: In an alarming new update to its user agreement released this week, PayPal has announced that it will assert copyright ownership over all intellectual property of anyone who uses its payment services.
The update comes in the aftermath of the announcement that eBay and PayPal will split apart into two separate companies.
Under the heading “Intellectual Property,” PayPal announces that it is introducing a new paragraph to its agreement, effective July 1, 2015, that will allow the company to “use content that you post for publication using the Services”.
“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

You may want to look into another money transfer service for your site Ben. PayPal seems to want rights to peoples copyright protected material now, using this new added clause to the user agreement. I figured you may want to know about this. Take care Ben.

Martin

Ben’s answer:

“Thanks for the heads up Martin. What paypal is trying to do is obviously illegal and if necessary I will initiate a class action lawsuit against them. Do you have any suggestions for an alternative payment method that readers and I can use?

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン 090-3439-5558”

Does anyone have any ideas about a new service he could use that we could pass along to him?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

If people wanted to re- percieve the earth as a cup

I could get me my head around that

but flatness does not fit with any pattern recognition of nature that I know of.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Ooky

I was a gifted a book on creation myths.
One concept from indigenous Americans was “The Cup of the Sky”

The cup of the sky had punctures that that allowed light to flow from other dimensions. Called stars;.

Yet it was a cup. Not flat in any way.

You may have witnessed this cup,

but surmising the earth the earth is flat, from your insight

nothing in the world is flat,

all things in nature have depth width and length

Flat is a term that has no meaning

belle3
belle3

Mozart @ 11:36 am: FYI: Picture #2 in the Chilean Volcano photos you shared is a photo of “blue lightening fire”, the type which struck the Vatican when pope ratface was “resigned” for childmolesting disease quietly? “a physical illness” I believe they called it. Haha!! So Mother Earth is striking back, interesting times. Thanks.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

aircow kohala hutz Rebecca left the game
Comment by accuchip on April 25, 2015 @ 1:45 pm
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Rebecca is alive and well

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn
cfree928
cfree928

stefie444
stefie444

https://higherdensity.wordpress.com/tag/domed-flat-earth-spaceship

Ukdenadreamer – I was trying to find something on your dome experience and I came across this video. Maybe you’ve seen it already. Frankly, it’s something I can’t really understand at all, but thought I’d post it and you could see if it resonates.

xander
xander

Mozart I have been told that “Nobody is exempt from the sun activating our 12 strands except for a few who have lost one or two strands.”

I would say what is possible for this galaxy is beyond our ken, but surely this will become apparent after the “Event.”

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by gillfinn on April 25, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

Thank you Gill – I needed that. After gus’s post I was feeling a bit blue and lost my mojo (most joyous self). I ♥ you.

accuchip
accuchip

woops doctor oz is not major tom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP6xBFyA_aw

accuchip
accuchip

aircow kohala hutz Rebecca left the game

accuchip
accuchip

You guys do know this all the same thing as a video game cabal blah blah blah.

accuchip
accuchip
cornpoppin
cornpoppin

I thought it was interesting that Ben said the Bronfman family were cabal so I did a search..

I get a lot from viewing photos–these do give me the willies, especially Charles-I’ve seen that wild look on the queen.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Bronfman&safe=off&biw=1080&bih=445&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NxI7VZw0iLGCBM_jgTg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

getem
getem

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 11:12 am

Hi Ukdena

What a wonderful memory for you to have. I feel for you going through the brainwashing you obviously were given after your dome vision, which I have no doubt was very real.

Comment by gillfinn on April 25, 2015 @ 1:00 pm

Once again Gil has said it much better than I ever could. Thanks Gil.

Rhonda

gillfinn
gillfinn

If there is no God and everyone is just an accident, then all that really matters is “me, me, me.
Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 11:12 am

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Hey ukdena, what an excellent description connected to a great childhood story. As you stated, they have created a lie to cover the importance of our very existence. The beauty of it all is that we will find out, one way or the other, the wizard’s running out of curtain.

getem
getem

Comment by XL on April 24, 2015 @ 11:15 pm

Hi XL

I agree also.

Rhonda

mozart
mozart
mozart
mozart

“Sorry to be such a cynic. No personal disparagements intended. ;-(“

Cheers…
Gus

Comment by Gus on April 25, 2015 @ 11:03 am
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Gus~

I can’t blame you for being a cynic and there’s no need to apologize for that attitude — I’m right there with you with regard to all the bullshit that goes on in this world.

I’m down and miserable far too many of these crazy days, rather than being upbeat and happy. And I get so, so, SO eff’n mad with the shiat going on, despite the facts about the good-guy ETs being here.

Anyway, I’ve seen far too much credible information, edited far too much solid information and have had conversations with those who really are “in the know” about the ET stuff that I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the good guy ETs are really here and helping out Earth very closely, keeping the bad-guy ETs and the Cabal well under control.

I’m actually in peace about the good-guy ETs and am not worried about our post-Cabal future, which will arrive very, very soon.

But, yea, having first-hand physical proof of the presence of the good-guy ETs would be great, but such proof exists in numerous gummint DUMBs.

BTW … the 12-strand DNA idea is not true. No such thing as a 12-strand DNA.

The 2 strands of DNA that we currently have dovetails far better with the harmonics of the Universe, as opposed to the idea of a 12-strand DNA that would not work in our galaxy as we know it.

I’ve had personal conversations with someone who is very, very familiar with this DNA stuff and this person emphatically stated that 12 strands of DNA is extremely unlikely to happen — the mathematical/geometrical/harmonic structures of life as we know it does not support the structure of 12 strands of DNA.

The idea of 12 strands has been put out there as disinfo to muddle our minds — I hate to tell you that, Gus.

*grin*

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by ukdenadreamer on April 25, 2015 @ 11:12 am

“When we cease to believe our eyes and experiences, we have to prostrate ourselves at the feet of these very pseudo scientists who are blinding us to treat them as experts.

Hi Ukenda…

I agree strongly with this quote. I’ve not had the “dome” experience you describe but don’t doubt for a minute you’re sincere. Was it “real” or a vision-memory from a prior existence?

My own eyes, however “mind-controlled” the vision interpreter attached to them, sees a round earth, measures a round earth and experiences a round earth. Not once, vaguely in a childhood memory, but every day that the round sun comes up and every evening the round moon hovers in the night sky.

Why would a loving creator consider us the epitome of his creations, the best he can do, at the same time populating the earth with a bunch of mind-controlling dicks who appear, by what you’ve said to take obscene pleasure in moving us, in our minds at least, from the centre of creation to the peripheries to live on a ball, of all things?

Never mind. Consider that a rhetorical question, making a point.

Enjoyable read, BTW. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

Edge
Edge

More on the ‘Silk Road and (AIIB) the New Chinese Bank—
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http://thewealthwatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Knife.jpg
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It is all about building the united Eurasian dream—-
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It is indeed the Western globalists’ worst nightmare.
It’s the endgame that everything else is leading to:

Shutting out the Anglo-American banking empire from central Asia, while allowing a seamless, state-of-the-art “Silk Road” land bridge between the furthest points East(such as Vladivostok, Russia, and Yiwu, China), to furthest points West(such as Madrid or London)!

This AIIB that China is developing, isn’t simply for building infrastructure in Asia, but for taking this Eastern Bloc to the next level.

Heartland Asia cannot hope to become a world class power, while maintaining a 3rd-class transit system.

This project will turbo-charge the adaptation of high-speed railways and the sorts of technologies, that many ancient countries have, until now, only dreamed of—

The joint, two-headed Sino-Russian alliance, continues onward with the plan to replace the US dollar(which the bankers use as both the “carrot” and the “stick”).

Nothing will stop the historic progress being made on this front, as most of Europe’s elites have now either hopped on board, or will soon do so.
Europe is a Go—
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Edge
Edge

Comment by Gus on April 25, 2015 @ 11:18 am
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Thanks Gus –It gives an idea–who Glenn really is an why he
named his blog as such–
Take care–
——–

xander
xander

Comment by mozart on April 25, 2015 @ 9:55 am
Fair enough mozart & don’t forget the Prime Directives:

“The Prime Directive simply states that no person may interfere in a Planetary involvement except under two circumstances. 1. A nuclear holocaust 2. A mass psychological attack (of which 911 is an example).

I am now concerned with CERN & their search for the glue that holds everything together. This anti-matter attracts more of the same & has been proven to be extremely unstable according to this lucid explanation on YouTube:

‪Darkest Side of CERN- Destruction of Souls -Critical!!!‬
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oChedPBBdhE

mozart
mozart

Wow. Stunning, doomsday-like photos of the recent Chilean volcanic eruption:

http://www.boredpanda.com/volcano-eruption-calbuco-chile/

xander
xander

re Comment by azure on April 25, 2015 @ 10:19 am

Fair enough azure but I also say categorically SO WHAT? You are pulling one guy apart & not focussing more on the spirit of what he is saying in this case. In effect you are being pulled off in a red herring mess of details.

cobra is unsound, period. Not only for the reasons posted including my own assessment & because I have been told by a Higher Source but because I have talked to someone I know & respect who has met him & told me his energy is not right…

Why do you defend this guy so much?

valtony
valtony

noche

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Hey Edge…

Check this out, a quote I just lifted from the parenting blog’s “Biography” section:

Counselor Experience and Counseling Techniques for Children

Introducing Dr. Glenn Marks, O.D., counselor, whose focus is
counseling techniques for children.

Glenn Marks graduated from the University, California
Berkeley Optometry School with honors earning a Doctor of
Optometry degree.

Reference: http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/counseling-techniques.html

Cheers…
Gus

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
–HERBERT SPENCER

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

ATTENTION SCROLLERS: get your scrolling fingers ready. I am about to share my views, research etc. on the flat earth. If you don’t like it—don’t read it, very easy. 🙂
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Graham, almost 3 weeks ago you posted some info on the flat earth “theory” When I first read it I laughed heartily. I thought you were being a jokester. “Oh, that Graham heehee”. I had no idea this is a hot topic currently in some circles (no pun intended).

Shortly after your first post, you posted more info on flat earth. This time my thought went to: “Oh, Graham must be hitting the helium tank hahaha”.

By your third comment I knew you were serious. I have great respect for you so I decided to look into it and have a few laughs.

I went to youtube and listened to a video. My thoughts again were: “What???? Who actually believes this stuff? Everyone knows the earth is round. “Experts” have proven it. I went to bed.

The next day, my brain was itching…I am a great researcher and have always, always wanted to know—–everything about everything. hahaha. Never reached that goal but I love knowledge and keep searching.

I remembered years ago when I was first told about chem-trails. Oh please–you really believe that? So I researched and found it is true. The list goes on ad infinitum on hearing things, researching and coming to my own conclusions via critical thinking and intuitive knowingness.

Afrer watching 2-3 vids (long vids) something happened. A forgotten memory from my mid teenage years resurfaced. I was not sure if I would share it here but what the hell.

I am a sky watcher—always have been. I would climb the tallest trees and lie on a big branch and watch the sky, or I would lie on the grass and watch the sky and clouds……
This one day I had been watching for hours when suddenly a huge revelation came to me. I saw as clearly as could be: a far off (very far off) dome of some sort covered our planet. For several minutes I saw it somehow. That knowingness changed every thing I had been taught.

I went in the house and told my mom in great detail what had just occurred. She laughed and said there is no such thing. I could not let go of what I had been shown, and knew to be true. I made the mistake of telling a teacher who laughed and called my parents. I would not let go of it. My mom called the doctor (?), a military doctor who told her to bring me right in. I had to see him, followed by a military shrink. He seemed overly concerned. For reasons I shan’t get in to here, some of the military doctors had always taken a great interest in me and my experiences. I was unaware that I should not tell them…didn’t learn that until later.

I still am unable to remember what happened with that shrink but the “dome” experience was covered up in my consciousness….

So, after this memory resurfaced I jumped full throttle into researching the flat earth, the dome covering etc. Thus far I have well over 40 hours of videos. I am not including the many, many hours of researching the presenters etc.

Do I believe now that the earth is flat? I am beginning to lean in that direction. It all makes so much sense and answers so many questions that I have had…about a lot of things.

One superb quote from Eric Dubay that I will post dances with my energy. I painstakingly went over and over his interview to glean these words. I might have missed a few.

Eric Dubay: “When we cease to believe our eyes and experiences, we have to prostrate ourselves at the feet of these very pseudo scientists who are blinding us to treat them as experts. Astronomical priests who have special knowledge only they can access like the Hubble telescopes.

So, by brainwashing us with something so gigantic and fundamental that actually makes every other kind of lesser indoctrination a piece of cake.

Earth being flat, fixed center of the universe around which everything else in heavens revolves gives special importance and significance not only to earth, but to humans—-the most intelligent among the intelligent designers designs.

By turning the earth into a spinning ball thrown around the sun and shot through infinite space from a God-less big gang—-they turn humanity into a random, meaningless, purposeless accident of a blind, dumb universe.

So, it is a trauma based mind control—beating the Divinity out of us with their mental manipulations.

People always ask: “Why do they do this?” Other than the obvious profit motive………

…… Modern atheist, big bang, heliocentric, chance, evolution paradigm that spiritually controls humanity by removing God, or any sort of Intelligent design and replaces purposeful Divine Creation with haphazard, random, cosmic coincidences.

And so by removing earth for the motionless center of the universe these free masons [foot soldiers for “others”] have moved us physically and metaphysically, from a place of Supreme Importance to one of nihilistic indifference.

If the earth is the center of the universe, then the idea of God and creation and the purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars, and billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation and a specific purpose for Earth, and human existence becomes highly implausible.

So by indoctrinating us to their “scientific”, fake, materialistic sun worship, not only do we lose faith in anything beyond the material, we gain absolute faith in materiality, status, selfishness, hedonism and consumerism.

If there is no God and everyone is just an accident, then all that really matters is “me, me, me.

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by mozart on April 25, 2015 @ 9:55 am

I just want to mention that there appears to be several operating assumptions that Glen, of the blog that you mentioned, holds in error, one of which I’d like to briefly address in this post.

Hi Mozart:
Thanks for the counterbalancing information. 😉

When one of these good-guy ET’s comes up and shakes my hand, and gives me the explanation you’re relaying, I’ll consider him/her/it and your information validated. Until then it stays in the “hearsay” category.

BTW: Do I get my 10 missing DNA strands back once I’ve learned those hard lessons?

So, until that handshake happens or something drastically changes in this world, like chemtrails stop and California gets it’s water back – that I can see with my own two eyes – I’m more of the opinion that this world is a mess because we’re surrounded so much BS that we can’t tell the shit from the shovel.

Sorry to be such a cynic. No personal disparagements intended. ;-(

Cheers…
Gus

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by mozart on April 25, 2015 @ 9:55 am

Thanks mozart, I like the way you clarified the situation. Of course it’s hard to comprehend something that we have no frame of reference for. Our usual way of thinking doesn’t cover this situation; but I absolutely agree with you and I’m so ready for the main feature vision – we’ve seen enough of the previews. After all we have all created it, along with our star brothers and sisters, through our collective love.

azure
azure

Landa Global/Hummanus Corporation/Dragonheart Projects

http://humanus.ca/

VISION
Our Vision is a pristine planet to live on. That simple. Our waters and air are contaminated beyond belief, and our disregard for Mother has resulted in a great cost to all of us. Our children get poisoned from the moment of birth, and our seniors can not take a clean breath. We are collectively responsible, and we will collectively correct this condition.

We have the technology. Hundreds of brilliant minds have pondered the environmental and humanitarian questions we face, and have come up with incredible and ingenious solutions. Implementation of these solutions will transform our planet to its natural lush state, with crystal waters and rich refreshing air. This is critical if we are to survive the next years.

We know that earth changes are imminent. Understanding this, if a single supervolcano or several volcanos spew their toxic contents into the present soup we call an atmosphere, a tipping point could be reached where an inversion could take place, and we would again have an instant Ice Age the same as the one that produced flash frozen woolly mammoths still chewing their food. In that inversion, the -270 super cold upper atmosphere dropped to the ground. To survive such an event, we must, at minimum, clean up our atmosphere so that our planet can absorb any such calamity, and process the toxic gases faster than it can now without reaching the tipping point.

In terms of our reality now, when the seas rise and climatic events cause destruction in the future, many cities will have to be built, and DragonsHeart’s Future Cities, with inexpensive and radically efficient clean energy, air, water and new material systems, will be an excellent template. China has the ability to erect a whole city with many skyscrapers at once, on time, and within budget, and this represents a new industry for survival that can be duplicated in all geographic zones.

As the fish in the sea run out by 2020-2040 according to our finest minds, we will face global famine. According to our scientists, the CO2 threat isn’t global warming alone. As mentioned above, if the cold air in the upper atmosphere inverts we would have an instant ice age as was evident in Siberia where these wooly mammoths were found in ice with food in their mouths. Frozen instantly while drinking a coffee could be a legacy for our descendants to find in another block of ice.

We now have the technology and tools to prevent this, and the resources to accomplish the job if we elicit the cooperation of governments, humanitarian organizations, venture capital experts, banks, and other major forces of change.

The double-bottom line philosophy (profit for the business community and for the local/global community and environment at large) through collaboration and cooperation of world-class professionals to build a solution for the planet together, is a desirable and necessary step for the revitalization of the economic infrastructure through a massive influx of venture capital, and deployment of the appropriate technologies.

The team of experts we have assembled includes inventors, engineers, leaders, scientists, and business men and women from all over the world who will all contribute to, and realize, a joint Vision. Together, we/they have the capacity and expertise to implement this dream into reality.

We began over thirty years ago with the awareness that the increase in global climate change, rising seas, overfishing, toxic effluent and radioactive spills meant the end of life for our Humanity. We asked then what would be required to resolve it. This shortlist of technologies is a part of the Vision that has emerged in answering the question. This Vision for building a Humanus/DragonsHeart Initiative concept has gained interest and support from many governments, institutions, trusts and foundations, and integrates many talented groups and individuals and their technologies.

The Projects herein represent both an immense opportunity and responsibility for all of us: to become accountable and preserve the spark of life on this planet.

It does not matter whether the planet poisoning is man made or natural, or global warming is man made or cyclical. We can still make a difference if we act globally and locally now.

WE ARE, collectively, the sovereign families, trusts, foundations, governments, NGO’s, local and multinational corporations, and some 60,000 grass-roots groups worldwide, who would put our solutions to good use, and who represent Hope for our children and their children’s children.

Only WE can do this.

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Ben’s vision coming to life.

Historical Bond Redemption

HISTORIC BONDS
We understand that up to 90% of all the historic bonds are fake. However, fake bonds are not in the best interests of the global community during this time of the General Currency Reset, and indeed the Global Reset of the financial systems.

It is the purpose of the Center to intake all historic bonds and other assets, real and otherwise, and provide some small measure of “grant” funds for the fake issue and destroy the material. In this manner, many poor farmers that have relied on the premise that someday, the bonds in their hold will be worth something substantial, will not suffer a terrible disappointment and they will be provided sufficient funds for their fake asset to satisfy their needs.

The real assets will of course be settled for the appropriate price. A measure of the settlement will be provided to the government for Reconstruction Project usage to help rebuild the Islands and help the people.

http://humanus.ca/global-redemtion-center.php

Edge
Edge

Comment by mozart on April 25, 2015 @ 9:20 am
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Thanks for your comments—
———–
Comment by Gus on April 25, 2015 @ 10:29 am
Yes, I do remember Ken in years back–
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What is very interesting to me–Is how China and Russia have
thrown a monkey wrench into the EU/European equation in
announcing the new World Bank and “China’s New Silk Road
with Hi-speed rail transit for Trade and Passenger Service
linking Europe with the Eurasian Trade zone– Giving “Uncle
Sam” and “NATO” nightmares–
There will be no need for ‘NATO’, and weapon sales would collapse–
————
China’s New Silk Road Offers a Chance for Peace in Ukraine

China is trying to lure Ukraine away from America, and back into the neighborhood.
Will Ukraine choose pride over survival?
Participating in the Chinese project of the century will inevitably force Ukraine to make amends with other Eastern neighbors.

China, made it clear that it views Ukraine as a bridge between East and West. This is what it is wants to invest in.
All these projects are built on linking Ukraine and Russia into a single transport hub of Big Eurasia.

Of course such a role of Ukraine is not acceptable to the US. Thus real projects with China, which the junta likes to brag about for now remain only on paper in the form of memorandums.

Will Ukraine choose to become a NATO army base or a transport hub for the New Silk Road?
Peace and Prosperity or a NATO Army Base and endless war???
Very interesting situation—

http://russia-insider.com/en/chinas-new-silk-road-offers-chance-peace-ukraine/5845

azure
azure

Valiant Thor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiTf9bKHuM

STRANGER AT THE PENTAGON is inspired by True Events from the book of the same name. It was first published in 1967.

Valiant Thor, A Created Being (Angel in human form), lands on Earth on March 16th, 1957, and lives at the Pentagon for 3 years under the Eisenhower Administration.

“The landing of Valiant Thor was perhaps the first documented landing of a human-type alien by military officials. He met with President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon for an hour, then the alien was put on VIP status and shuttled back to the Pentagon.” –Harley Byrd, Project Blue Book, United States Air Force

A Holy Stranger in the Pentagonal Lodge
Extracted from:
“Stranger at the Pentagon”
by Dr. Frank E. Stranges, Ph.D.
1967, Inner Light Publications,
New Brunswick, NJ ISBN 0-938294-66-0
“When I asked him where he was from, he replied, ‘I am from the Planet that is called Venus.’ I asked him how many visitors from Venus were presently on Earth and he said, ‘There are presently seventy seven of us walking among you in the United States. We are constantly coming and going.'”

The First Meeting
March 16, 1957, in Alexandria, Virginia, one of the finest leaders of the planet Venus, operating under the direction of the Central Control and who had been chosen to make the contact as well as direct the project, landed his craft and was met by two police officers, weapons drawn.

A thought transference quickly convinced them that he meant no harm and he was ushered into the back seat of their patrol car. After crossing over into Washington, D.C., they were met by the Secretary of Defense along with six of his staff members. Soon police from every conceivable district and agency had joined in, all trying to claim their right to escort him to President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Through his own version of the power of positive thinking, he was able to dismiss them all and soon passed through the security posts followed by an Air Force Captain.

Meanwhile, his presence in the area had thrown everyone into a dilemma. The introduction he held from the High Council worried them because, though not written in any Earthly language, their minds were given power to properly translate the inscribed message.

Captain Gould (not his real name) asked him to remain and after downing two plain bourbons muttered…
“My god, why couldn’t this have happened on my day off?”
Suddenly the door opened and six armed guards led Val to what appeared to be an elevator. It went rapidly to the bottom-most level. Maximum security was in place. After transferring to an underground train, they sped toward the White House. Six officials, six armed guards and three secret service men escorted him into the office of President Eisenhower.

From behind the desk the President rose while the secret service men remained nervous and uneasy. As he extended his hand to shake that of the President, the secret service men drew their revolvers and pointed them at Val. Following the nod of the President, they reluctantly lowered their guns.

Standing in front of his desk, the President said,
“Of course, you know we have suspended all rules of protocol. I have a good feeling toward you. Please, sir, what is your name?” “And where do you come from?”

“I come from the planet your Bible calls the morning and the evening star.”

“Venus?”

“Yes, sir.”

“Can you prove this,” he asked.

“What do you constitute as proof?”

He quickly retorted, “I don’t know.”

“Will you come with me to my ship?”
He answered with a quizzical look and said,
“My friend, I cannot come and go as I please. There are others to be considered. There are committees to be consulted and security measures to be adhered to. Please spend some time with us here …Let’s get better acquainted …learn more about one another …and perhaps soon, real soon, well …we shall see.”

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/stranges.htm

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Did I mention we all addressed him as “Glenn”?
Apologies for the redundancy. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 9:06 am
Yes-Ken has a lot of great articles on his site

Hey, Edge…
Ken may be his name in real life, don’t know, don’t care. But at the time he participated in this blog around 2010 we all addressed him as Glenn (with 2 n’s). And his sign-on name was G7enn. And we all addressed him as “Glenn”.

Reference: Comment by g7enn on November 30, 2010 @ 10:07 am

Cheers…
Gus

azure
azure

But what of the meditations both Ishtar and COBRA call for? These are ruses; they may seem like light-based meditations on the outside, but imbedded in the protocols and wording is a method that opens YOU up to Bafath mind-control.
Comment by xander on April 24, 2015 @ 9:43 pm

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Seriously? You are putting out as evidence a piece written by Former White Hat? One of the biggest disinformation shills out there? LOL

https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/a-note-on-cobraishtar-antares-by-former-white-hat/

His stories would make the Onion proud they are so bad.

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/pages/95/590/bio.html

Forward: I’m truly sorry to have to expose the readers of this blog to another round of this. Since certain independent media agencies have been re-posting Former White Hat’s writings as legitimate, I feel forced to remind the world who this fraud is! Any individual or organization reporting FWH’s information from the blog-o-sphere or from private messages he’s sent as realistic or truth, need to have their heads examined.

Former White Hat, A.K.A. Louis Kahn Nin, is not a white hat, dark hat nor any type of dis-closer or whistle blower. He’s an ass-hat. He’s a satire-pushing degenerate. Normally I wouldn’t engage in name calling, but this bag-worm needs exposed for what he is. He gets information peddled to him by the alphabet boys. Information from people’s private emails are often exploited and satirized. He exploits people who’ve been used-and-abused in the government’s black-budget projects. He can’t go 5D; he doesn’t go off-planet. His information is silly-human-nonsense. He is nobody important in the global tussle against the dark lords. AVOID his blogs and prosper!

https://clandestineragerevealed.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/former-white-hat-fraud-%E2%99%A6-theidylwildgroup-fraud/

mozart
mozart

Ben has responded to me about the Paypal shiat, to wit:

Hi XXXXX,

I already answered somebody else about this but you are telling me this is on infowars.

Infowars is a disinformation site run by the cabal Bronfman family.

It would be totally illegal for paypal to make such a move and if they try, I will initiate a worldwide class action suit against them.

Benjamin Fulford 古歩道ベンジャミン 090-3439-5558

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From: mozart@XXXXXXX.com
To: benjaminfulord@hotmail.com
Subject: Very serious potential problem with Paypal
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:24:28 -0700

Hi Ben,

There may be a very serious potential problem with Paypal, if this article with the link below is true:

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

Here’s the offending, newly-inserted paragraph in the updated User Agreement with Paypal, per Infowars:

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

If this is true, this is effed.

I’m tired and weary of the shiat the Cabal is constantly pulling against us. I’m really tired.

*sigh*

~Mozart

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“….Makes a person wonder who the ‘bad guys’ really are—-”
Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 9:14 am
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I used to feel shame at being an American starting as a teenager seeing the hell “we” put the Vietnamese people through, then I came to the deep understanding I do not in any way condone, approve or vote for the horrific things the Amerikan hi-jacked government and the co-opted satanic Amerikan military do. THE EVIL EMPIRE….is not we the people.

I am a citizen of the Earth and I have no quarrel with anyone….well except the aforementioned evil idiots.

mozart
mozart

“And henceforth, my blood pressure may rise from taking so much of what I read these days with a huge “grain of salt”. ;-)”

Cheers…
Gus

Comment by Gus on April 25, 2015 @ 8:15 am

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Hi Gus~

Nice post.

I just want to mention that there appears to be several operating assumptions that Glen, of the blog that you mentioned, holds in error, one of which I’d like to briefly address in this post.

The good-guy ETs never did have any difficulty to “figure out” that humanity had been betrayed by the bad-guy ETs.

The reality was that the good-guy ETs had to sort of step aside and allow the timeline of the intricate connections between the Cabal-owned, fascist corporations and the bad-guy ETs to proceed forward with little interference by the good-guy ETs — up to a point.

The good-guy ETs never did withdraw from the planet at any time and they were very closely involved with the planet to make sure that nothing drastic happened, like a full exchange of nukes between countries, etc.

It was a matter of timelines and allowing certain timelines to play out before the good-guy ETs could finally start to step in and assert themselves more forcefully over the years, eventually being fully revealed/known in the public in the world, but the time for going fully public has not yet arrived.

If the good-guy ETs had forcefully stepped in, say, in the 30s, 40s, etc, they would have prevented WWII and most of the wars that had happened in the world to date; they would have prevented the loss of life of many, many millions of people in the world from many causes — wars, famine, pestilence; they would have prevented the Cabal from dominating Earth, etc.

If the good guys had done that, then the world today would not have the contrasting/awakening experiences/catalysts of contrasting what is right vs what is wrong with far fewer wrong things (wars, famines, pollution, etc) happening to serve as catalysts for the awakening of the bulk of the masses of people.

The good-guy ETs were very much aware ***at all times*** of what was happening on Earth. It’s just that they had to allow timelines to play out, and they did.

Now we — humanity on Earth and the good-guy ETs — are ready to decisively end the negative timelines that by now have clearly shown that the paths on those timelines suck, really suck for the bulk of humanity and that there are far, far better ways for us to co-exist peacefully here on Earth.

deester
deester

Dirty, moldy, cluttered Sandy Hook School – photos from Connecticut State Police. No way this would pass any inspections. No way any parent would send a child into a dump like this.

http://imgur.com/a/sBfhz

mozart
mozart

“Makes a person wonder who the ‘bad guys’ really are—-“

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 9:14 am

Hey Edge~

Spot-on, man, spot-on.

I like your posts and energy, BTW.

Carry on.

Edge
Edge

Head Lines—-
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2,079 killed in US-led airstrikes in Syria – monitor—
————
​1 080 killed, 4 352 injured in Yemeni violence –—
At least 1,080 people were killed and a 4,352 injured in the Yemeni conflict between March 19 and April 20, said World Health organization (WHO).
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Including Iraq and other countries ‘Uncle Sam and NATO’
kill and injure millions of innocent people a year, in
their pursuit of so called terrorists and endless wars—
creating a lot of human suffering around the world–

I often wonder how it compares to the ‘bad guys’ like
Russia (Putin) and China, who have no wars on the go,
(create rather than destroy things) and do not spend their time running around the world bombing and destabilizing legitimate governments— and NOW trying to start WWW3–

Makes a person wonder who the ‘bad guys’ really are—-

Edge
Edge

Comment by Gus on April 25, 2015 @ 8:15 am
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Yes-Ken has a lot of great articles on his site–
That make a person stop and think–
Take care–

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Hi Gang…

Not sure if all of you have any truck with ET stuff.

I know that Ben tries to avoid it, though he doesn’t entirely.

I found this on the “Parenting Blog” today. It looks like a personal opinion from Glen, who used to visit here in the early days of Ben’s blog.

Here then, is the article: (link below)

ETs: SOME STORIES DON’T PASS THE COMMON SENSE TEST

A short time after I first commenced posting on this website, the ET story was that since humanity had “chosen” to get themselves into this mess we now find ourselves, it would be up to us to solve the problem without any outside aid. That was the apparent mantra at the time.

Later, as it gradually became obvious that the Illuminati were receiving a great deal of off planetary aid in the form of technology and advice vis-à-vis control of the planetary population, the ET position transmogrified. Additionally, as more and more human history became known, it was discovered that the dark minions had defeated humanity some time in the past and then proceeded to genetical re-engineer them from 12 strands of DNA to just two active strands. Hence, humanity lost 5/6 of its over all ability at that time. This implies that even with our full 12 strands, at 100% ability, humanity could not defeat the dark, and yet the “evolved” beings of light supposedly claimed we had gotten ourselves into this mess and therefore were responsible for getting ourselves out? Doesn’t make sense to me.

The ensuing story became that humanity would not be able to defend itself against this outside Illuminati attack without the help of the good ETs, which never interfered in the evolution of less evolved species without good reason. However, it appeared that the negative ETs were able to raise all the hell on earth they wanted without interference from the “good guys.”

As the story goes, the good ETs had contacted the world governments since at least the early 30s (FDR) but had failed to convince these governments to give up nuclear devices in return for technology that would create a heaven on earth for humanity. Note, by this time these world governments had been thoroughly infiltrated by the negative ETs and their minions.

We were also told never to fear that fear would turn us to the negative side, even though it was becoming obvious that millions of humans were being slaughtered by the dark minions. So don’t be afraid?

I must admit that this story doesn’t leave the so-called good ETs in a positive light. If they are as highly technological advanced as alleged and if many are as spiritually advanced as claimed, why has it taken them almost a century to figure out that humanity has been totally duped and overwhelmed by these dark minions and must have aid? Doesn’t make any sense to me how any decent spiritual entity would require so much time to figure this out, and why not go directly to humanity 50 years ago before the dark minions engaged all their Armageddon hardware?

I also object to the claim, we “chose” this life before coming here, as if I’m supposed to automatically accept this “new age Rockefeller” mantra as true? Doesn’t sound much different than our government that wants us to believe them because they claim it as truth.

LINK: http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/why-is-education-important-blog.html

You may have to scroll down a bit on the page to see this piece. And it will disappear in a day or two as Glen updates the site.

I almost wasn’t going to post this because I’m not sure it’s appropriate for this Geopolitical blog. Though it’s not quite up there in the flat earth category, a lot of the information on the ET topic is contradictory and well outside of “Common Sense” as Glen puts it.

Then I saw the Jim Snow article about “Blue Beam” posted above: Comment by intruth on April 25, 2015 @ 6:50 am, it struck me that even the “Spiral in the Sky” thing we saw at the time of Obama’s Nobel ceremony which DW discussed so passionately, seems to me to fit the category of a blue-beam-based deception. Fits, perfectly actually, and makes more sense than any of the explanations I’ve read about so far.

So how do we tell apart the outright lies from mistaken information and find bits of truth here and there? When we really need it, where’s that other 5/6 of myself (DNA-wise) that causes me (us) to be such suckers for so much Bullshit?

Glen’s right. A lot of the information about ETs doesn’t make “common sense”.

And henceforth, my blood pressure may rise from taking so much of what I read these days with a huge “grain of salt”. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

intruth
intruth

Jim Stone

pril 24 2015

There is a lot of ground to cover today.

Many people have asked me how to convince people there is a conspiracy. I have the answer, a single undeniable way that will blow the matrix wide open, and even if your brain washed subject denies it at the time, the illusion they live in will eventually shatter. I will post this later, after I finish it.

Holograms in the sky?

There are too many reports of sky holograms to skip over. So I will touch on this. There is a US DOD program called Project Blue Beam that can put images in the sky. It has already been used during the Iraq war, where U.S. forces put an image of God in the sky that spoke to Iraqi soldiers commanding them to surrender.

If you ever see anything like this, IGNORE IT, this is now an old technology and you won’t see any projector beams going up to make it, it will look TOTALLY REAL, three dimensional, and it will be completely fake. The recent sightings of barcodes and cities in the sky are most likely all just tests of this technology.

I believe this is very important for people to at least know about, and to not fall for a scam rapture or “call from God” that comes through your eyes and ears rather than your heart. It will be freaky when (or if) you ever see it, and very difficult to ignore.

Just remember if you do see something like this that it has already been convincingly used during warfare over a decade ago. Lots of images and info HERE and it will be mixed with kookery to discredit whistleblowers, but IT IS REAL, dig through the info and discern for yourself. read more at jimstone.is – http://82.221.129.208/

intruth
intruth

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/24/army-agrees-to-meeting-to-dispel-jade-helm-hoax/
Comment by wolfintimber on April 25, 2015 @ 3:01 am
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Wowser…I really am interested to see how they make all these bullet purchases go away along with the sudden Walmart closures. The bullets alone are a huge problem for me.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by deester on April 25, 2015 @ 5:46 am

Yeah, I pretty much gave up on see it.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 6:24 am

I went that route after my old TV went bad, instead of buying another TV. I can watch TV using the computer, and it’s just as good, if not better than a TV. I use an Acer 19 inch widescreen monitor. I can also use the computer to do other things at the same time while the Media Center is running.

zantor
zantor

Disclosure Data from GoodETxSG 4-23-15… “Upcoming ‘Rather Large’ Report” and “Vladimir Putin”

Posted on 2015/04/23 by kauilapele

“More interesting data from Corey. I post a couple of highlights…

Putin is probably one of the most knowledgeable (“Non Cabal”) people on the planet (And his inner circle) about the “Off World Affairs” from back in his KGB Days during the “Cold War” up unto the present time… With the recent treasure trove of data that “Snowden” brought over to Russia, Putin now has some incredible information in his hands!

“There are so many people that are panicking for so many different yet equally world changing reasons, and they are ALL jockeying for position and standing ready to feed each other to the wolves to save their own skins! Many people do not realize how big of a mess these Elites have now found themselves in…“

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/disclosure-data-from-goodetxsg-4-23-15-upcoming-rather-large-report-and-vladimir-putin/

intruth
intruth

Another Jim Willie–Part 1&2—
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https://www.youtube.com/user/FinanceAndLiberty/videos
Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 2:18 am
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Thx Edge. I’ve been checking Jim’s site all day and he doesn’t have this interview posted yet. Just came to shut my computer down when I saw your post. This should be a good one. Sending to my most recent converts.

Edge
Edge

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 6:02 am
It’s pretty good. I’ve have used it since it first came out in the XP edition.
Comment by marhuff55 on April 25, 2015 @ 6:17 am
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It seemed like a great idea when I read it–
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Edge
Edge
marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 6:02 am

It’s pretty good. I’ve have used it since it first came out in the XP edition.

Edge
Edge

For all you computer geeks—Using the Windows Media Center package as it comes with the Windows 7 operating system
for all your digital entertainment needs – movies, TV, radio, music, photos – and more.–
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Adding a TV Tuner card to your PC provides both Media Center and Media Browser with a whole new set of tools to work with–

Our conclusion is that WMC provides an easy and attractive console for many of your digital entertainment sources – movies, TV, radio, music, photos – and more. Only one remote control is needed to drive the whole system, it looks great, there are a host of plug-ins and add-ons to fill a few gaps in it’s functionality, and it’s free with the Windows 7 operating system.
Out of the box, WMC does a pretty respectable job of organizing the media on your disc — Movies, music, pictures – it can handle most of the popular formats for each. But when you combine the base system with a handful of 3rd party add-on packages the Windows Media Centre really starts to shine.
OverView:
In this section we’ll run through the main components of WMC as they come with Windows 7. Those components include:

Movies
TV
Radio
Music
Pictures
Video
And Games
Conclusion:
Out of the box, Windows Media Center has a lot to offer. Now that the world has become a digital playground, WMC provides a very nice Command and Control centre. When combined with a few 3rd party software add-ons, WMC becomes a top-flight Media Center package, well worth a second look for anyone interested in setting up a centralized digital entertainment hub.
All that’s required is a PC that will run Windows 7, (but of course, the beefier the better), a big screen TV, a TV Tuner card, a connect ion to the Internet, and a bit of time to set it all up.

And to keep the wife happy, you don’t even have to locate the PC in the lounge. With the addition of one of the many “Extender” devices on the market today (priced in the $200 to $400 area) only a small box, perhaps the size of the paperback version of “War and Peace” is required. The extender hooks up to your TV and sound system and provides some of the facilities of the PC via a data link (wireless or hard wired), a local hard drive, or a USB storage device. It has its own remote that controls the whole extender system. We’ll look at extenders later in this review.
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http://www.hazen.co.nz/01_outOfTheBox/01in.php

drsmallberries
drsmallberries

Heads-up. We’ll apparently be deluged with confusion & disinfo in the coming weeks, even more so than usual:

http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/confusion-and-disinformation-ahead.html

Heads will still roll, tho.

deester
deester

Comment by marhuff55 on April 25, 2015 @ 4:49 am

I couldn’t get it either, Martin. Cue up Twilight Zone music.

deester
deester
valtony
valtony

no comment

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Comment by Edge on April 25, 2015 @ 3:46 am

Dang Jake

That unconditional love you doggies have is really something. I’m still working on it.

You are right though. she’s a real sweetie and she has every right to be here as do all of us

marhuff55
marhuff55

I went ahead and sent the info off to Ben about PayPal.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by mrxjokermeganadam on April 25, 2015 @ 4:01 am

Strange, I keep getting an error message from them when it tries to load, saying there are no live streams at this time.

filip4
filip4

April 25, 2015 @ 3:31 am

Option would be to introduce Ben to the problem ( if he isn´t aware of it yet ?) and ask him to prepare for another payment option, as with credit/debet card directly.
I cannot see what the problem with this could be, other than a PC technical one, but for that there are experts at hand.

mrxjokermeganadam
mrxjokermeganadam

http://tunein.com/radio/FPRN-Radio-s209626/

Sandy Hook/ W. Halbig on now.

marhuff55
marhuff55

I just sent an email to PayPal, asking for an explanation as to how this isn’t a back door way of infrigement by them of materials that are already under copyright protection, such as Ben’s is. It would seem that people that use it, such as Ben, for receiving payment transfers for the use of his site, are having their copyright protection infiltrated, just for using their services. When I get an answer back from them(that’s not saying that they will even answer it), I’ll post it here.

I do know how this kind of ploy works. If someone like Ben doesn’t read the new update(which is what they prey on), and continues to use their services, he is more or less allowing them legal use of his materials. This is the kind of fine print people need to be very aware of in any kind of contract before signing it, or even be aware of before continuing using their services. It’s getting to the point that it isn’t even safe to have your own material under copyright protection because of this backdoor infringement crap.

mrxjokermeganadam
mrxjokermeganadam

Hey Deester and all, I am listening to what sounds like live feed on FPRN Radio right now. They are asking Wolfgang questions, sending him in circles and treating him like the enemy right now.

Joy

Edge
Edge

No, there had to have been another reason
i agree
Comment by omnahmasiva5 on April 25, 2015 @ 2:32 am
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“Jake” was telling me this morning—there,s a lot of nice
ladies on the blog–he would do security duty for any of them for free if asked–
As for Patricia, he thought she was a real ‘sweetie’ and he
says he just loved her–
Now you have to remember that was his personal ‘male’
opinion—
Take care–

valtony
valtony

576

caoimhin
caoimhin

Daft question time!
I take it that there is no other method to pay for a subscription to this website, other than via paypal?….. If not, in light of their latest ‘stunt’, I will have to give up this subscription (along with one or two others!)
Any suggestions?
Caoimhin

wolfintimber

Gordon Duff-QUOTE:What is interesting, of course, is that the US Army has, for the first time in decades, a strong command structure that respects the constitution and is comfortable with being at odds with Israel. The first time the military goes “America first,” they come under attack in a bizarre hoax easily traced to the Israel lobby and their “strange bedfellow” cardboard lothario “Jew hating” neo-Nazi friends.:UNQUOTE…..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/24/army-agrees-to-meeting-to-dispel-jade-helm-hoax/

ladies and gemtlemen-the most powerful military that the earth humans have is in the control of the whitehats(good guys and gals)…..ya baby…..

Time to fly higher and higher…..

Like the actor playing the vice president in house of card said to the cabalist criminal super rich boy…..You got the money,i got the guns…..

Continued increase in the control of the guns,weaponry on earth by the light forces will continue as part of the liberation process…..Victory is the light…..the true might…..

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by deester on April 25, 2015 @ 2:35 am

Hence, the reasoning behind maxresistance being shut down. Boy, if this doesn’t show the manipulation going on, nothing ever will. Wake up out here people.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by deester on April 25, 2015 @ 1:35 am

I’ll have to watch for this(as I use PayPal), because I’m a little skeptical about it. This, if true, could mean that any bank could also pull this. PayPal itself, is nothing but a money transfer company(system), where the banks themselves hold the actual money. A bank then, could pull the exact same thing beings they themselves are holding the said money. It would be like instead of using PayPal to make the transaction, you would just transfer it directly from your bank account to Ben’s bank account. So why couldn’t banks not pull this very same thing? It’s not that I’m saying they won’t try this, it’s just that if this is really true, it would mean that there isn’t one thing on earth that would be safe from them getting some kind of control over it. If they do try this, I also will drop my account with them, and I will also explain to them why, with no punches being pulled. I will also pass the word around to those who I know that use PayPal. I just hope for Ben’s sake, that this is just a load of BS from Infowars and nothing else.

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News April 24th, 2015

How to Transform Self-Doubt Into Life-Long Happiness and Self-Love

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/04/24/how-to-transform-self-doubt-into-life-long-happiness-and-self-love/

Self doubt is only a symptom of deeper unhealed parts of yourself. Heal those and the self-doubt is transformed into happiness, peace, joy and even self-love.

+ Be Well +

Truth

deester
deester

This is a comment on the Sandy Hook Hoax facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/HoaxAtSandyHook?fref=ts

“Just called and they said there WILL NOT be a live stream permitted by the FOIA Commission and that they will video tape it and people can get copies. This is being done to suppess the truths and I’m sure the tape will be edited to leave out and and all controversial parts so that the people that believe it happened will still believe and that everyone doubting it is a beast. Dictators-government rule for Connecticut and the country. What could any yellow-blooded Marxist/Communist slave want.”

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on April 24, 2015 @ 12:38 pm
>What a fucking joke that Martha and SL want to convince
>people that she was a victim! Make me barf!
As much as I like Pansy, I have to agree. She was far more of an attacker than a victim, she gave back far more than she got on a daily basis.
That being said, I do not buy the excuse that she left because she was being attacked by trolls. She had been dealing with them quick successfully for years, and it has been much calmer than usual lately.
No, there had to have been another reason

i agree

Edge
Edge

Another Jim Willie–Part 1&2—
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https://www.youtube.com/user/FinanceAndLiberty/videos

gillfinn
gillfinn

We’re waiting for the return of Jesus, so he can throw the money changers out of the temple again and set the record straight. The change will have to come from us as you know, otherwise it will never work, it’ll be as ineffectual as having someone else eat your meals for you.

We need to put the status quo up on the work bench and give it a rebuild from the ground up. We can make a positive change in a fraction of the time it took to get to the way things are now. And, we’ll get to watch a few movie clips on the way, so what’s not to like?

Fiction is the new truth. Here’s my newest.

“Chains You Can Believe In”

https://vimeo.com/grahamhayward/chainsyoucanbelievein

intruth
intruth

Comment by food2 on April 25, 2015 @ 1:34 am

I think he’s right about Walmart being used as military centers. Too much evidence to support it, in my view.

I don’t know anything about his background. I always look for corroborating evidence when viewing anyone’s opinion.

intruth
intruth

Same here Deester. Bye, bye (Cabal) Paypal.

deester
deester

Okay, it is infowars, but this will mess with Ben’s ability to make a living off this website because I pay Ben my subscription with Paypal. I will be cancelling Paypal.

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

Excerpt: In an alarming new update to its user agreement released this week, PayPal has announced that it will assert copyright ownership over all intellectual property of anyone who uses its payment services.

The update comes in the aftermath of the announcement that eBay and PayPal will split apart into two separate companies.

Under the heading “Intellectual Property,” PayPal announces that it is introducing a new paragraph to its agreement, effective July 1, 2015, that will allow the company to “use content that you post for publication using the Services”.

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

More on site.