Chaos in US as international bankruptcy of US Fed faction sinks in

Chaos is increasing inside the United States as the US Khazarian controlled faction of the Federal Reserve Board continues to be shunned by most of the world. In response, the Khazarians are desperately trying to provoke race riots or otherwise get arms bearing US citizens to fight the US armed forces and police. At the same time, the US armed forces and agencies are moving against both Israel and their US based Khazarian proxies, notably the Bush/Clinton/Rockefeller crime family.

In what Pentagon sources say was a direct message to the Rockefeller family, Dave Goldberg, the Chief Operating Officer of Facebook, died in mysterious circumstances at age 47 last week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/business/dave-goldberg-47-surveymonkey-chief-and-sheryl-sandbergs-husband-dies.html?hpw&rref=obituaries&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=1

Facebook is owned by David Rockefeller grandson Mark Zuckerberg. Pentagon sources say this was a message by the armed forces to the Silicon Valley oligarchs that from now on the high tech industry in California would be under military control.

To understand the frenetic power struggle now taking place in the US, it is worth taking another look at the secret history behind the ongoing US corporate government’s bankruptcy. More of this was revealed at a meeting last week between representatives of the White Dragon Society and Chinese royal family members. The Chinese royals presented documentary evidence that will force a change of how 20th century history is written. The documents describe secret agreements between US Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, Chinese Nationalist ruler Chiang Kaishek and,

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First?

carydc
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Second?

guizi
guizi

three

holicanoli
holicanoli

Third!

jbdd
jbdd

Been waiting and looking.Important week – lots of earthquakes.
people having dreams.

bettybetty
bettybetty

5?!

siggi
siggi

Uh – top ten , really!

samw
samw

7

ascend
ascend

8

ascend
ascend

9

aneeson
aneeson

gosh top 10!
Alan

omnahmasiva5
omnahmasiva5

Compassion and Peace

Happiness and Joy

shamshabad
shamshabad

Top 20!

mrxjokermeganadam
mrxjokermeganadam

14?

All I can say is WOW thanks Ben!
Joy

jdscotto
jdscotto

14

valtony
valtony

15

kraines
kraines

16 I guess but , really who cares

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

Report is a bit short this week, no? Interesting to view events through “gold lens,” though I’m sure many in the cafe already do just that. Not a lot new here; perhaps DW will chime in?

I’m a writer for GaiamTV’s Seeking Truth section. Here’s an article I composed linking Nassim Haramein’s work to the ancient Vedanta philosophy and practice.

http://www.gaiamtv.com/article/only-thing-thats-real

May it be of service.

getreal
getreal

I have to say I see this counting of who is first, second, etc and wonder why this matters? What am I missing? Why not take the time to offer something worthy of reading? You take up space of someone who might have something worthy of reading but is forced to post below you… and others who might gain from it, miss it.

~Get Real

grills
grills

17 ??? Neat! Stay Safe Ben. Thank You for You.

jgrinst1
jgrinst1

Top 20 – yahoo! Thanks Ben.

litttledog
litttledog

22. Wooo. I’ll be back with some cool stuff to share.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Ben said:

“There was also a big push on the internet to use cabal controlled web sites to push “Jade Helm,” a psychological warfare operation against the American people and US military. There was further what seems to be an attempt to give some credibility to widely discredited fake opposition blogs and radio shows by staging what appear to have been murder attempts against two of them: Stew Webb and Jeff Rense……

…..”Just before the apparent attack on Webb, somebody contacted this writer and told me Webb (who I had never heard of) slandered me by calling me a “disinformation agent.” My response was to quote the Arab saying: “the dogs bark but the caravan roles on.” However, in retrospect it now seems this was an attempt to get me to say something hostile about Webb just before the “attack” on him. Jeff Rense has also highly discredited himself with all the nonsense he has spewed out about Fukushima. However, I tried to contact him to confirm if he had really been attacked only to find out I was no longer allowed to e-mail him. My understanding, based on a lot of different evidence, is that Rense is a front for the Bush family and, until I hear from him otherwise, that is line I will take. ….”

Thanks Ben. very interesting…….. Webb, and his posse, gets told by VY to get lost and webb then tries to discredit VT and Ben.

litttledog
litttledog

get real… it’s fun… or not (not required)… but it’s a game and fun.

nightsinger5
nightsinger5

Thank you, Ben

dryden
dryden

Top 1000! Darn, I’m good!

deester
deester

26

aneeson
aneeson

May it be of service.
Comment by spiralbeard on May 5, 2015 @ 9:27 am

Hi David,

Not sure if you are new to the café, but a great big welcome to you.

I have copied your talk to a word doc to read at my leisure – thank you for sharing.

Kind regards
Namaste,
Alan.

depburns1
depburns1

Under 30?

aneeson
aneeson

Top 1000! Darn, I’m good!
Comment by dryden on May 5, 2015 @ 9:42 am

Hi Dryden,

Boy you’re good!!!

You have to be the winner this week – we all can’t trump that 🙂

Namaste,
Alan.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“…I’m a writer for GaiamTV’s Seeking Truth section. Here’s an article I composed linking Nassim Haramein’s work to the ancient Vedanta philosophy and practice.”

http://www.gaiamtv.com/article/only-thing-thats-real

May it be of service.
Comment by spiralbeard on May 5, 2015 @ 9:27 am

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Spiralbeard, thanks for sharing your writing with us here. I really enjoyed the article.

I have been a student of the Vedic teachings for quite some now now. I remain a novice. 🙂 This knowledge, what little I have, has only served to open areas in the deep that I might not have otherwise found or encountered…..

“The word Veda means “knowledge.” The Vedas are the foundational texts of India’s timeless spiritual tradition (sanatana dharma). Vedanta is derived from the Upanishads, which are the final section of the Vedas. Vedanta literally means “the end of knowledge.” Interpreted one step further, the word Vedanta implies “that knowledge beyond which there is nothing to know.”

I bookmarked Nassim Haramein’s vid for later. I am not certain if I have seen this one or not…..

Thanks again.
walk in beauty,
Ukdena

anonymous
anonymous

32!

litttledog
litttledog

“These two “murder attempts” by the way, came at around the same time a scheduled major US radio broadcast by me on the show “Caravan to Midnight” was cancelled at the last minute due to a “major server attack”

I listened to A M A Z I N G … F A B U L O U S Simon Parkes Interviews lately:

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQBjXTiMIw

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9n-ewEuQs

And one by Kerry Cassidy of ProjectCamelotPortal.com.

Simon shares stuff that complements.. and is as revealing as David Wilcock’s recent interview.

Both interviews were heavily interrupted/sabotaged.
So another sign that TPTB are “on the ropes” is how much they are trying to interrupt the important stuff from getting out on the web at the moment.

So… go interrupt all you want… us listeners are cheering and yipping at each interruption!!

mkddachs

top 50????

dwilcock
dwilcock

Great stuff. My next article is imminent, so be on the lookout for it. All heading in the right direction!

David

litttledog
litttledog

If you didn’t see this on the last thread.. I want to be sure everyone knows about it.. another TOTALLY COOL interview:

Kerry Cassidy interviewing Sophia Stewart who is a POWERFUL DAME.. and S M A R T… and won back the rights to the Matrix and Terminator movies she wrote.. beating BIG ENTERTAINMENT (as in BIG PHARMA)…

VERY INSPIRING INFO and LADY…

http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2545-real-matrix-author-sophia-stewart-interview

litttledog
litttledog

Hey David (W) ‘nice to “see you”.. It is getting SOOO exciting along about now.. eh?

One last goodie:

UFO over Sandiego last thursday: 4-30-15
Blog discription:
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/nbc-san-diego-films-massive-ufo-or.html

NBC Descriptions:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Mysterious-Lights-Spotted-Above-San-Diego-301729021.html

sitsshow
sitsshow

Another interesting update. There is a program of pitting brother against brother, and the awakening community is not immune to this. Thankful conflict can be the best way to settle old grudges, and we all can learn much from others. Compassion is the way to remove obstacles.

Here are the news links for this week:

FBI Admits It Fudged Forensic Hair Matches In Nearly All Criminal Trials For Decades
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/04/fbi-admits-it-fudged-forensic-hair.html

USA, Inc. Committed Massive Identity Theft | Trust Law Understood – Open Letter to U.S. Treasury Secretary Lew — from Anna von Reitz
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/04/usa-inc-committed-massive-identity.html

Two CIA Agents Arrested by Minutemen while Crossing Mexican Border with 1300 Pounds of Cocaine
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/04/two-cia-agents-arrested-by-minutemen.html

David Wilcock Major Update: History of ‘Old One’s’, Draco’s, SSP, Plan for Disclosure in 2015, Cabal Surender, Sphere Beings, and Much More – Notes from Recent Talk
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/04/david-wilcock-major-update-history-of.html

Volcanic Eruption Off West Coast United States! Oregon Undersea Volcano Now Erupting
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/volcanic-eruption-off-west-coast-united.html

USA, Inc Is Violating Public Trust, Contract and Statutory Code | US Spent $38,913,501,207.80 Over The Legal Limit
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/usa-inc-is-violating-public-trust.html

Communication from Benjamin Fulford about Gordon Duff of Veterans Today May 1st 2015
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/communication-from-benjamin-fulford.html

NBC San Diego Films Massive UFO Or Fleet Spotted Over City | Mysterious Lights Spotted South of Downtown San Diego
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/nbc-san-diego-films-massive-ufo-or.html

San Diego UFO Could Be Dark Fleet or Simulation, Cabal Power Play For Disclosure Continues, WMD’s Targeting West Coast | Corey GoodETxSG’s Comments on the San Diego UFO from April 30th
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/san-diego-ufo-could-be-dark-fleet-or.html

Putin Ratifies BRICS $100bn Currency Pool Deal
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com/2015/05/putin-ratifies-brics-100bn-currency.html

Justin and Julian
Stillness in the Storm
sitsshow.blogspot.com

getem
getem

A good report from Ben. Seems things are falling apart big time for the cabal. Yippee!

Comment by dwilcock on May 5, 2015 @ 10:03 am

Thanks David, will be on the look out for your next report. Your 3 hour presentation which was put up here on the blog is fabulous! Keeps getting taken down which indicates you are right on target! Incredible info you released. Please stay safe, and also Ben of course.

Rhonda

intruth
intruth

38!

food2
food2

Thanks Ben.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

I feel this is important so I took the liberty to bring it to the new article.

Yet another piece to the puzzle..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/

“NEO – So Much More Than Nukes

Is evil for evil’s sake alone so farfetched?”

“In May of 2014, a high level informant tied to the US Department of Justice came to us with a story. He said that Germany has a decades long secret protocol with Israel, whereby Germany funds weapons research and production for Israel and supplies that nation with submarines specially configured for launching nuclear cruise missiles — and Israel, in return, gives Germany nuclear weapons.

At the time, the “why” of Germany, a NATO power, wanting nuclear weapons wasn’t clear. There had to be more to the story much more and there was.

What was brought forward was a bizarre tale of Europe’s strongest “liberal democracy” being something quite different, a nation ruled by a shadow government, infiltrated by “hold overs” from Nazi Germany, sworn to bring down the “corrupt West and its effete democracies.”…..

“…. An Apology :

” Many times Benjamin Fulford or Michael Shrimpton came to me with evidence of the mysterious organization called the DVD. Both seem at times almost fanatical in their opposition to something no one has heard of. Is it just them or is such fanaticism a natural response to endemic evil?

A cursory examination of available intelligence on the DVD shows it to deeply parallel the Council on Foreign Relations. For years, intelligence organizations have stumbled over mysterious secret societies, cults, cabals and cartels. In order to add a sense of unity and structure, terms were developed — Khazarian Mafia, Bilderbergers, Illuminati, Black Nobility and many others including Dr. Preston James’ SSG (Secret Shadow Government).

What is known is that what we see — ISIS and is magical unseen allies, a world of rigged elections, manipulated economies and leaderless “empty hat” governments — cannot exist without a DVD. We know it isn’t about money… there is nothing left to buy.

Could or would a group exist only to dominate and destroy? Is there some inherent reward in entropy alone? Consider Bush or Blair, consider Cheney or Netanyahu. Is evil for evil’s sake alone so farfetched?”…..

more on site. An amazing article. Duff used to scoff Michael Shrimptons notion of Germany being another evil empire…. Duff has changed his views on this recently.

anonymous
anonymous

Comment by jbdd on May 5, 2015 @ 9:05 am

Those dreams – are the shared?
ie are people having the same dreams?

xander
xander

Soon there will be landings and the Cities of Light and other technology will be available to help restore Earth and Humanity to truth, justice, beauty and peace. The May 3rd 2015 Full Moon begins the Wesak Festival. The Wesak Festival in Tibet is a large gathering of Humans and ETs alike. High in the Mountains Ships are seen from the raising to the setting Sun throughout the days of Celebration. This is the Celebration of the Buddha. It is the Kalki Maitreya returning to Earth. This Wesak marks the beginning of the end of time in this Cycle. This is exactly what you would expect to see unfold during an Easter Window for the Event called Disclosure. This is Sananda through Elizabeth Trutwin.

http://cosmicascension.org/

michaelcowles
michaelcowles

woohoo #44!!!! Love ya Ben!

accuchip
accuchip

There must be different Pentagon factions. Last week they were trying to get money from China.

This week they are trying to dry up a source of money from Saudi Arabia.

“The desperation is becoming palpable now because of what just happened to Saudi Arabia, one of the US Khazarian factions’ last sources of money. The Pentagon and the Iranians forced Saudi’s new king Salman to fire crown prince Muqrin and Saud Al Faisal (who has been Saudi foreign minister for the past 40 years). They were fired to remove Bush influence from the Saudi regime and to force an end to the attacks on Yemen, Pentagon sources say.”

litttledog
litttledog

“…I’m a writer for GaiamTV’s Seeking Truth section. Here’s an article I composed linking Nassim Haramein’s work to the ancient Vedanta philosophy and practice.”
http://www.gaiamtv.com/article/only-thing-thats-real
May it be of service.
Comment by spiralbeard on May 5, 2015 @ 9:27 am
………………………………………………..
spiralbeard: I LOVE the article.. and look forward to pursuing the media you reference.
n “The Power of Spin,” a short film produced by The Resonance Project, Dr Michael Hyson says:
“If you think of the whole universe as a fractal series of singularities…There’s really only one thing in the whole universe, it’s all just folded up a lot — into trees and dolphins and honey bees and humans — but we’re all made of the same stuff. – …”

“Only Brahman is real. There is only the dot.”

AND: the guy I study with (John-Roger) says everything not the spirit is 10% of the All.. and illusion. The Spirit is 90% and the real.

So.. the dot is not real.. either.. it’s the rolled-up version of this learning-game we are all playing together.

As the game gets more fatazamagoric.. I keep reminding myself.. it’s all the illusory 10%.. .. and I can keep sourcing from the 90% “real”.

andr3w85_2
andr3w85_2

So this Jade Helm is not very important to be afraid of?
Nice to know.
but if it’s not the military behind Jade Helm, what’s the organization? just Cabal? or also some of their mercenary?

sherry8424
sherry8424

Ben Fulford, and David Wilcock, thank you, thank you for hanging in there with courage and amazing dedication to the truth. We will forever be grateful. Victory to the Light!

litttledog
litttledog

Comment by accuchip on May 5, 2015 @ 10:20 am

Yes, accuchip. There are different factions in the Pentagon.. and the NSA.. and the Fed even. If Ben discussed that at some point.. he doesn’t seem to be talking about it now but just assuming we know that.

food2
food2

The Pentagon; last week they were bad and this week they are good. What is that?

It was a relief to hear about the “murder attempts” on Stew Webb and Jeff Rense. Makes total sense to me.

pam

guac77
guac77

Whoever is attacking my PC nonstop, would you please stop, I haven’t did anything to hurt anyone. Every 45 minutes I have fix or restore my PC, haven’t you had enough fun by now, please leave me alone. I can’t get much done.

The pendulum has given me an update on the brown dwarf star. I’m now told you’ll be able to see it with the naked eye in February 2016 and it will enter the kill zone in April to June 2016 and all coasts all over the world will get blasted. If you can’t/don’t move be sure to store about 15 gallons of gasoline so you can leave when you have too. The power will likely go out during these 3 months, and you may not be able to buy stuff, so store enough food, water and other supplies to get through to the backside.
http://www.icheckyoursoul.com/

litttledog
litttledog

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 5, 2015 @ 10:10 am

Ukdena: thanks for bringing this over. I love that the BIG EVIL organization is called “DVD”… since digital media is so being used as a tool to mesmerize us all. 😉

My same buddy John-Roger talks about “the loyal forces of the opposition.” A good reminder that all those evil organizations and shenanagins are providing us opportunities to strengthen and stick to our intentions.

litttledog
litttledog

Comment by guac77 on May 5, 2015 @ 10:36 am

Guac77: Those “loyal forces” are really “at it” with you at the moment, huh?

Beaming clarity and purpose and light and caring your way and to your computer..

You are obviously up to something as important as Ben and Simon Parkes.

guac77
guac77

Goldberg and his wife are Illuminati, they have Reptilian souls.

holicanoli
holicanoli

White hats/black hats, good Pentagon/bad Pentagon, good China/bad China…It all comes down to nothing good lasting because EVERYONE is positioning for control. The happiness and very LIVES of millions hang in the balance while “They” decide whose penis is bigger. My life — OUR lives are not pawns in this insidious and insane game. My consent is withdrawn!

mkddachs

Michigan, Texas, Mississippi, California, Idaho And Washington All Jolted By Significant Earthquakes

by Michael Snyder, End of The American Dream:

Did you know that Michigan was just hit by the worst earthquake that state has seen in more than 60 years? In recent days, there has been a series of alarming earthquakes all over the United States.

Of course none of these earthquakes was anything like the massively powerful quake that just crippled the entire nation of Nepal, but many are concerned that these earthquakes could be a sign of what is to come.

All over the planet, seismic activity is increasing. In fact, I recently wrote about how the number of volcanoes erupting right now is greater than the 20th century’s average for an entire year. At the same time, the surface of the sun has become very, very quiet.

As you will see in this article, there are scientists that link the two. It is believed that times of very low solar activity have something to do with a rise in seismic activity, and there is one scientist that is claiming that solar activity is declining faster “than at any time in the last 9300 years” right now. So what does this mean for the future of our planet?

Before we get to that, let’s review some of the very unusual earthquake activity in the U.S. that we have been witnessing lately. As I mentioned above, the state of Michigan was just hit by the worst earthquake that it has seen in more than 60 years……

http://sgtreport.com/2015/05/michigan-texas-mississippi-california-idaho-and-washington-all-jolted-by-significant-earthquakes/#more-379324

tiger289
tiger289

Thanks Ben

efsaturn
efsaturn

Wow.

calmchris
calmchris

Namaste my friends

maureen
maureen

Maureen from Texas says: Response to ‘spiralbeard’. So you think the article is too short? Do you think Ben should make up some stuff up as a filler? Ben writes a lot of long articles and I appreciate the integrity. Good show!

azure
azure

It is obvious there are different factions within the Pentagon. The cabal has tentacles reaching everywhere and the White Hats have to be careful moving forward and vetting people. There are cabal judges, sheriffs, marshalls, clerks, bankers, city, state and federal officials. Why do you think this has taken so long.

http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress/overthrow-of-the-republic-by-sherman-skolnick-1-12/

It truly is a mess trying to figure out who is who.

jbdd
jbdd

– Comment by jbdd on May 5, 2015 @ 9:05 am
Those dreams – are they shared?
ie are people having the same dreams?

Anonymous – hi

I’ve been following Dutchsinse who keeps track of earthquakes – he said he has issued more event alerts in the past few weeks than he did for all of 2014 – earthquakes are ramping up, and the people who follow him on Facebook are reporting the dreams – remarkably alike. It’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop…………

azure
azure

After this last report, I get the sense that the other shoe is about to drop any time now.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

“They claim there have been numerous attempts to kill them and replace them with look alikes so, as a security measure, they have asked that their pictures be published as seen below:” “Photographs of their ears have also been taken as an extra precaution.” Ben

Ben; The war of humanoid duplicates in China will need far more scrutiny then photos of ears. There is one who have mastered any flaws in the human duplication process with no need of originals. Thank God however, they are working for the good of humanity. So, with this in mind, don’t wast time looking for changes as they will ever be noticed, and all will believe everything is fine. The R$R process will continue until the time is right for the masses to awakened enough to instigate a real deep and proper investigation. The world has no idea the forces behind this situation.

Thank you for keeping this on focus for public consumption in preparation for the finial exposure.

Love, Peace and Light always,

Michael

jbdd
jbdd

Azure – we’re on the same wavelength!!

nwosurfer
nwosurfer

“The Feds are hoping to use the unrest to trigger a civil war in order to distract attention from their own problems.”

No, not for ‘civi war’

via Oathkeeper R. Hase
“On Wednesday I stated this:

“The whole point (Of the orchestrated riots) is to collapse the local jurisdictions of law enforcement and place them under federal control.
Constitutionally elected sheriffs being their number one target.

It is a coup d’état.”
I was right. And don’t think for one moment that Obama, Holder, and Lynch won’t back Sharpton on this.
This has been the plan all along.
.
It is to destroy the power of the Constitutionally elected sheriff.
This is a LITERAL conspiracy fact. Not theory.”

Sharpton Calls for DOJ to ‘Take Over Policing,’ ‘Going to Have to Fight States’ Rights’ – Breitbart
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/04/30/sharpton-calls-for-doj-to-take-over-policing-going-to-have-to-fight-states-rights/

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Azure; Who is who is not who you think he/she really is either. 🙂

nwosurfer
nwosurfer

Not to mention all US police departments have been converted to public corporations.

All to do the bidding of the HLS / DOJ / UN

azure
azure

Azure; Who is who is not who you think he/she really is either. 🙂
Comment by ugmmichael on May 5, 2015 @ 11:35 am

——————————————-

It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world

azure
azure

There was also a big push on the internet to use cabal controlled web sites to push “Jade Helm,” a psychological warfare operation against the American people and US military. There was further what seems to be an attempt to give some credibility to widely discredited fake opposition blogs and radio shows by staging what appear to have been murder attempts against two of them: Stew Webb and Jeff Rense.

————————————-

Jade Helm is certainly riling people up. Mainstream media gearing to ridicule citizens against Jade Helm.

Texas Governor Deploys State Guard To Stave Off Obama Takeover

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover?

On the other hand, at least the Gov. of TX has taken this seriously.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

On board with 70 comments posted ending with Comment by azure on May 5, 2015 @ 11:48 am

Just to say, yo!

Back to prepping dinner.

Malama pono,

Momi

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

This was just e-mailed to me. I’m just sharing.

Below is an incredible first-hand account from a US Air Force Colonel about the inside of our Planet [courtesy abovetopsecret.com/onelight.com.]

This information was gathered and written down with permission, from a recording taken on the phone January 10, 2002 (Greg Gavin/Onelight.com):

My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force.

Arrival and Indoctrination

I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan.28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.

Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them.

My father had been stationed at Roswell. As part of my induction into the military he requested that I be stationed along with him at the Pentagon. There they said “We have a new duty station for you which will be Area 51 facility, Nevada”, Commonly referred to as S-4. When I went into the Pentagon I was a Second Lieutenant.

When I came to the Pentagon they gave me the field commission as First Lieutenant. After 3 weeks of being there they handed me my full Colonel rank, saying “you have to be a full Colonel to be stationed at this next facility”. There were 150,000 personnel in this facility, approx. 85% military personnel and 15% civilian. Following my arrival I was taken underground and did not see the light of day for 11.5 years.

The Tunnels and Shuttles

The Walls of the Tunnels are very smooth. If you were to pull a hollow tube through a ball of clay you can get an idea of how smooth. The walls have what is likened to a marble finish, which are made of a metal substance, impenetrable; the surface of the walls cannot be penetrated even by a diamond drill nor will a laser penetrate the surface.

Remember there was a time when we used to see troop movements from point A to B on the Earth’s surface, continually. It was not that long ago. Now, you rarely see this. Now they use tunnels to move all these troops at long distances. The tunnels are wide enough to drive two, 18 foot wheelers side by side.

Stemming from Area 51, one shuttle goes out to the Pacific Ocean – 350 miles due west of Monterey – where there is a pyramid; another shuttle goes to the Cheyenne Mountain facility

The length of a large shuttle machine is approx 1/4 mile long. Interior inhabitants make use of these machines – a huge vessel for moving large numbers of people/beings/whatever quickly. The smaller shuttle is 50-60 feet in length, this was the kind I was in. The speed of the shuttles is faster than the speed of sound, they can travel from Area 51 to the main interior of the Earth in less than 10 Earth minutes. In 5-6 minutes you are there.

The material used to make the shuttles is the same substance that made up the skin of the spacecraft at Roswell. The shuttles run on electromagnetic power using the Earth’s grid line. The operators who I mentioned earlier who are of a stature of 13-14 ft. in height, look like us in their appearance but much more highly evolved, and speak through telepathy. The men have beards or not, and the women’s skin is flawless, indeed having a perfect clear complexion. Their expression for Humans is one of concern for Us – as they see where we Humans are headed. There are seven civilizations residing in the Inner Earth – which are governed by the principles of harmony. They understand and they speak all languages of the earth. Their understanding of medical knowledge is phenomenal.

Much more info at:

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/colonel-billie-faye-woodard-traveler-to-the-inner-earth/

😉

chajul
chajul

ISIS HQ is in Juarez Mex. And the Bushes are in Texas plus what is under Denver airport. Amenesty only applies if you give up but you will not. No Rv no GR. But the good book states. Trying to convince them is like speaking to wood. You would better luck making dead wood grow new leafs.

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

Comment by maureen on May 5, 2015 @ 11:07 am

No need for filler. Just an observation upon first reading. I suppose I’m just spoiled, trained to expect more depth and detail. No harm meant.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

“It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world” Azure

Yes! it is Brother. To The MAX.

🙂

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

Comment by litttledog on May 5, 2015 @ 10:28 am

Thanks for reading. Interesting perspective from John-Roger; do you have a link to his work? In “Black Whole,” Haramein shows how what we know as physical reality composes only .00001% of existence.

I agree that the dot isn’t really real either, as there is always another layer of the onion to peel back, and infinite recursion is just that – infinite.

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 5, 2015 @ 9:51 am

Thanks for reading. When it comes to vedanta, it is a rare being indeed who is not a novice. Reminds me of a section in Autobiography of a Yogi, when the teacher asks the students if they understand the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita, and they all nod yes, except for Paramahansa Yogananda. He says (and I’m paraphrasing) “I’ve read it through dozens of times, memorized it, meditated upon it, and yet, I haven’t really learned it,” because he hadn’t yet fully embodied the teachings.

The paradox,of course, is that that attitude, the beginner’s mind, is in fact evidence of a high level of realization.

I’ve been a subscriber to Ben’s blog for years now, and am mostly a silent witness to the amazing conversations shared in the cafe. As such, I have enormous respect for you Dena. Your contributions are always well-considered, intelligent and uplifting. Sending much love and all the blessings to you my friend!

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

Comment by aneeson on May 5, 2015 @ 9:45 am

Hey Alan, thanks for the welcome. As mentioned in the above comment in response to ukdena, I’m in the “long-time listener, first-time caller” category.

That article is a pretty major download, so by all means, take your time with it. There’s always plenty more where that came from, here: http://www.gaiamtv.com/bio/david-mcconaghay

Many blessings.
Om namah sivaya.

-David

Dreamlander

Let us perform some “figure” checking
Not “fact” as they have not been verified by independent third party, just like some mumblings from Ben.
Consider:
1 trillion = 1,000,000,000,000
Current gold price is USD1,200.troy oz [toz].
1 metric ton [MT] = 32,150 toz.
Manchu gold horde is USD30 Trillion
Based on current gold price, we get 25,000,000,000 toz
This is 777,605 MT
Persian gold horde is USD46 Trillion
Based on current gold price, we get 38,333,333,333 toz
This is 1,181,960 MT
Total Manchu+ Persian = 1,959,565 MT
Per Dan Popescu at Bullion, the world’s above ground gold inventory is 179,022 MT as at end 2013.
https://www.goldbroker.com/news/above-ground-gold-stock-how-much-is-there-why-does-matter-546
Bix Weir hinted many times that the world actual above ground gold stock is about 2 Million MT.
Check out Bix video series on Grand Canyon Gold.
The 160,000 MT of gold mentioned by World Gold Council was based on an estimate issued by Ernest Oppenheimer of De Beers Diamonds sometime in 1940s.

So, we may ask:
HOW MUCH GOLD ARE THERE IN THE WORLD TODAY?
WHERE ARE THESE GOLD NOW?
WHAT IS THE REAL PRICE OF GOLD?

Also:
Qing Dynasty Manchu gold owned by Northern Chinese faction [CN+KR]
Ming Dynasty gold owned by Taiwan Chinese faction.
For more details, refer to Prior Rants posting on 4/30/15 4:30 PM titled “Dear Jim: [Regarding China Factions]”
Link: http://src-fla.us/index.php/news2e629

virgilsam
virgilsam

Ben, thanks for the update. People, stop with this “first” stuff please. It takes away from actual conversation

azure
azure

MULTI-DIMENSIONAL WAR BEING WAGED BY THE USA AND ITS ALLIES

If you think that conflicts in Ukraine or the Middle East, including Yemen, Libya, Iraq and Syria are not interconnected, you are sorely mistaken, insists award-winning author and geopolitical analyst Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, adding that these wars are all part of a “multi-dimensional war” being waged by the US and its allies.”

Who is America’s Worst Enemy?

The destructive campaign is aimed at encircling Eurasia, with Russia, China and Iran the main targets, Nazemroaya stated in an opinion piece for the Strategic Culture Foundation.

The United States plans to take out Tehran and Moscow first and then is expected to proceed to Beijing, the expert is convinced.

The US wages the war with the help of Nazemroaya called “agents of chaos”. The expert named Islamic State, also known as ISIL, as a striking example.

“These agents of chaos are unleashing different waves of constructive chaos to prevent Eurasian integration and a world order that is free of US dictates,” the analyst explained.

Nazemroaya described the Sunni group, notorious for its brutality, as “a loosely knit band of militias” active in the Middle East and beyond.

US Doing Everything to Prevent a New Russian Superpower – French Newspaper

“Included in [the Islamic State’s] network are groups from the Caucasus which have been fighting in Syria and Iraq,” Nazemroaya said adding that some ISIL fighters are currently fighting in Ukraine and intend to use it “as a stepping stone into Europe.”

As diverse as the “agents of chaos” are, there is a “connection between the violent, racist, xenophobic and sectarian forces” unleashed to destabilize Eurasia, the analyst said.

“Whether they know it or not, these deviant forces, whether they are the ultra-nationalist [Right Sector] militias in Ukraine or the head-cutting gangs of Al-Nusra and [ISIL] in Syria and Iraq, all serve one master,” Nazemroaya pointed out, saying that they also have the same enemies.

The analyst warned that the United States will also wage its war on India. “The ‘constructive chaos’ that is being unleashed in Eurasia will eventually wreak havoc in India. If New Delhi thinks that it will be left alone, it is foolishly mistaken,” he said.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150503/1021671212.html

jubei
jubei

Fox News staged event backfires..

http://youtu.be/Ka2Rl-2-hh0

mkddachs

There is so much happening right now that it is mind boggling
and so many levels but it has been speeding up for some time now. So much disclosure coming out.

It seems people are like A JOnes and others are screaming at the screen – hard to listen to right now.

How can we know until the next stage breaks out and reveals itself. Makes me want to get a sub to cliff high site.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by aneeson on May 5, 2015 @ 9:14 am
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Aole (no), you are “number one regular contributor”. All the others are Wanna B #1. Hello and goodbye.

I like accounting. The more I practice the better it gets.

Malama pono,

Momi

food2
food2

Ukdena,

That was an eye-opening article about the DVD that you shared. Another puzzle piece, just as you said.

Sounds like Gordon Duff is being cleansed of some troublemaking. It seems like that is happening in many different facets and levels of life these days. Well, he will survive and thrive because he wants to serve humanity.

Everywhere I’ve been this past week there have been negativity and power struggles. Maybe it is just me, but it has appeared so profoundly clear. Gordon Duff is just another one to be rid of those who aren’t working as a complement to him.

pam

jubei
jubei

Oboma vows to fight “anti-Semitism” and “Holocaust denial” as Jewish heritage month commence

http://www.therealistreport.com/2015/05/obama-vows-to-fight-anti-semitism-and.html?m=1

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by virgilsam on May 5, 2015 @ 12:59 pm
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Not to worry, so. It’s a harmless icebreaker that has been around since I have been on the forum, 2005. The post are not long and respect shown. No abuse and has never created a declaration of “war”. Harmless, it’s harmless. Just scroll on by, I do until something grabs my attention.

Enjoy and welcome, aboard.

Malama pono,

Momi

jubei
jubei

Jim Sinclair in 2011..

http://youtu.be/IF24atvNkSo

bcjams
bcjams

List of corporate leaders from major corporations/institutions retiring in Late 2014, 2015:
Paul Otellini – Intel Corporation CEO
Don Thompson – McDonald’s CEO
Bob Iger – Disney CEO
John Rishton – Rolls Royce CEO
Takanobu Ito – Honda CEO
Dr. Norbert Reithofer – BMW CEO
Ferdinand Piech Volkswagen Chairman
Kurt Kuehn – UPS CFO
Patrick Pichette – Google CFO
Dan Mead – Verizon Wireless CEO
Dan Mason – CBS Radio Pres/CEO
Dan Neary – Mutual of Omaha CEO
Bob Stevens – Lockheed Martin Chairman/CEO
Brady Dougan – Credit Suisse, CEO

Javier Arrigunaga – Citigroup Inc’s Banamex Unit CEO
Gregg Steinhafel – Target CEO
Scot Rank – Wal-Mart Mexican Operation (Walmex), CEO
Richard Fisher – Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas CEO
Charles I Prosser – Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia CEO
Patrick Donahoe – United States Postal Service Postmaster General & CEO
Bill Wheeler – MetLife, Inc. President/CEO
Louis Chenevert, United Technologies CEO
Bryan Stockman, Mattel ,Chairman/CEO
Mitchell Klipper – Barnes & Noble’s CEO

Nigel Travis – Dunkin Brands, Chairman/CEO
Kevin Sheehan -Norwegian Cruise Lines, CEO
Gale C Ellsworth – Trailways Transportation System, CEO
Steve Chapman – Ruan Transportation CEO
Brian Domeck – Progressive Corporation, CFO
Takashi Hatchoji – Hitachi America Ltd. Chairman of Board
Joe Magnacca – RadioShack CEO
Keith Wandell, Harley-Davidson CEO
Michael J Kowalski, Tiffany & Co. CEO
Don Mattrick – Zynga CEO
Tad Smith – Madison Square Garden, President/CEO
J.H. “Jay” Campbell Jr. Associated Grocers, President/CEO
Rick Dreiling, Dollar General Corporation, Chairman & CEO
Larry Dale – Orlando-Sanford International Airport CEO
Michael Brower – The American Council of Renewal Energy (ACORE) CEO

Charles D Davidson – Noble Energy Inc, Chairman/CEO
Richard Rosenblum – Hawaiian Electric CEO
John Terwilliger – Houston Energy, CEO
Anthony Alexander – FirstEnergy CEO
Michael Zheng – Altona Energy CEO
Gregory Boyce – Peabody Energy CEO
Jeffrey W Shaw – Southwest Gas Corporation CEO
Jack Truong – Electrolux North America CEO
Stephen Swad – Rosetta Stone, CEO
Rodney O. Martin, Jr. – Voya Financial
Russell Scheirman – VAALCO President/CEO
John Seffrin – American Cancer Society – CEO
Joe Robles, USAA Pres/CEO
Jim Everett – YMCA CEO
Mary Adams – United Way Monterey County CEO
Deborah Bayle – United Way of Salt Lake President/CEO
Diana Baker – United Way Suncoast CEO

Sara Schastok – Evanston United Way CEO
Leslie Ann Howard – United Way Dane County CEO
Gary Rodkin – ConAgra CEO
John V. Faraci – International Paper Chairman & CEO
Carey Lykins – Citizens Energy Group Pres/CEO
Floyd Keels -Santee Electric Cooperative (SEC) CEO
Lee Launer Jr – Fidelity & Guaranty CEO
Udo Rieder – Erickson Inc CEO
Tip Osterthaler – SES Government Solutions President/CEO
Thomas G. Hoback – Indiana Rail Road CEO
Art Leahy – L.A. County Metro CEO
Peter Meldrum – Myriad Genetics Laboratory
John McAdam – F5 Networks CEO
Richard Kinder – Kinder Morgan Inc Founder & CEO
Daniel R Daigneault – The First Bancorp CEO
Charlie Collura – Healthcare & Municipal Employees Credit Union Pres/CEO
Sherwood Moody, Claremont Savings Bank CEO
Michael J Gillfillan- AloStar Bank CEO
Tom Holloway – Bank of Edwardsville, President/CEO
Fred Green – Charter Bank Eau Claire
Craig Ingham – Mt. McKinley Savings Bank CEO
Dennis Hall – IH Mississippi Valley Credit Union President/CEO
Tommy Smith – Tenn Titans CEO
Ronald O. Briggs – St Francis Memorial Hospital President/CEO
Thomas N Hansen – Seattle Children’s Hospital Research Foundation, CEO
Tim Rice – Cone Health CEO
Dr Ed Benz – Dana-Farber Cancer Institute CEO
Sandy Haryasz – Page Hospital CEO
Bill Leaver – UnityPoint Health CEO
Jim Pernau – Edgerton Hospital CEO
John Bluford – Truman Medical Centers CEO
Gary Olsen – St. Luke’s Hospital CEO
Michael Bullitt – Healthsouth Rehabilitation Hospital CEO
James W Connolly – Ellis Medicine CEO
Dr. Glenn Steele Jr., Geisinger Health System (GHS)Pres/CEO
Russell Knight – Mercy Medical Hospital, President/CEO
Steve Bucholz – Nonin Medical, President/CEO

Peter E Person, MD, MBA – Essentia Health CEO
Steven G Anderson – Cryolife, Inc. Founder/Executive Chairman
Ellen Rautenberg, Public Health Solutions, President & CEO
John Hagen – Pasco Economic Development Council Pres/CEO
Steve Klein – Snohomish County PUD General Manager/CEO
David Weiss – Greater Cleveland BBB CEO
Mary Adams – United Way Monterey CEO
Rob Kautz – Sugar Bowl Resort (Tahoe) CEO
Joe Clayton – Dish CEO
Carrie Martz – Martz Parsons CEO
Andy Tompkins – Andy Tompkins CEO
Sandra Bruce – Presence Health CEO
Linda Brown – The Doctors Clinic, CEO
John Richels – Devon Energy CEO
Fred Anderson – New Hampshire Electric Cooperative CEO
David Davison – American Savings Foundation Pres/CEO
Michael C. Arnold – Ryerson Pres/CEO
Rich Moorhead – Monarch Mountain CEO
Stephen M Smith – John Wiley & Sons CEO
Jon Whitmore – ACT in Iowa City CEO
John Gilbertson – AVX chairman/CEO

Michael Creel -Enterprise Products Partners LP CEO
Jeff Kleinpeter – Kleinpeter Farms Dairy CEO

John Comstock – Cherokee Regional Medical Center, President/CEO
Rich Umbdenstock – American Hospital Association CEO
James Xinis – Calvert Memorial Hospital CEO
Nancy Feldmen – UCare CEO
Gary P Miller – St. Alexius Health CEO
Kathy Apple – National Council of State Boards of Nursing (NCSBN) CEO
David Scott – HP Storage Head, Former 3Par CEO
Jim Heeter – Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce President/CEO
John Lippman – Claremont Savings CEO
James Conlon Bangor Savings CEO
Ron Burniske – Chartway Federal Credit Union CEO
Rich Moorhead – Monarch Mountain CEO
Glenn McFarlane – YBGR CEO
Wayne Schell – Health Security Service (HSS) CEO
Gene Michalski – Beaumont Health System, President/CEO
Danny Arnold – Orange County REMC GM & CEO
Dr Ann Roggenbuck – North County Healthcare CEO
John Harney – University of Colorado Hospital Pres/CEO
Brent A Marsteller – Cabell Huntington Hospital President/CEO
Joe Topper – Allentown’s CrossAmerica Partners CEO
Fred Green – Head of Charter Bank Eau Claire CEO First Mountain Bank

John G “Jack” Briner Chairman/CEO First Mountain Bank

Dennis R Saunders CFO Joyce Magno-Somerset Credit Union, President/CEO
Stuart Fauber – The Greater Lynchburg Community Trust President/CEO
Brenda Coates – Peoria Housing Authority CEO
Tom Long – MillerCoors CEO
Mike Biediger – Lexington Medical Center President/CEO
Stephen P. Dexter – Thomas Health System Pres and CEO
Uli Hacksell – Acadia Pharmaceuticals CEO
Jim Daily -Porter Medical Center CEO
David W Pritchard – KaloBios Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Pres/CEO
John E. Burke PHD, Accreditation Association for Ambulatory Health Care (AAAHC) CEO
Hatim Tyabji – Best Buy CEO
David Henry – Kimco CEO
Michael Darcy – Gateway Foundation CEO
Jorge Carrasco – Seattle City Light
Linda Levy – theatreWashington Pres & CEO
Richard Kinder – Kinder Morgan Inc
Tom Franz – Greater Phoenix Leadership CEO
Steve Sakuma – Sakuma Brothers CEO
Mike Reitz – Blue Cross Louisiana CEO
Mike Bolous – Presidents Council, State Universities of Michigan
Patrick Pichette – Google CFO
Ralph Stayer – Johnsonville Sausage CEO
Gregory Boyce – Peabody CEO
Craig Culver – Milwaukee’s MGIC Investment Corp
Ben Richmond – Louisville Urban League CEO
Bill Dinsmoor, Nebraska Medicine Health System
Jerry Moeller – Stillwater Medical Center CEO
Michael Carpenter – Ally Financial Inc CEO
Patrick McPharlin – MSU Federal Credit Union CEO
Jim Schrimpf – Corporate Central CU
Terry Boston – PJM Interconnection CEO
Rose Lincoln Hamilton – The Greater Tacoma Community Foundation Pres & CEO
Steve Johnson – USA Cycling CEO

G Steven Farris – Apache Corporation

James Xinis – CEO Calvert Memorial Hospital
Andy Tompkins – Kansas Board of Regents CEO
Bob Anderson – Horizon House CEO
Gary D Radine – Delta Dental system CEO
Kathleen Schmatz – Auto Care Association CEO
Deborah Cannon – Houston Zoo CEO
Jim Fell Hamilton Area CEO
Brian White – San Diego County Employees Retirement Association CEO
Marshall Farnell – Spokane County, CEO
William A. Catto – Vermont Mutual Insurance Group CEO
Nesibitt – CIBC CEO Mark Doak – Davis Health System, Pres/CEO
Carey Lykins – Citizens Energy Group, Pres/CEO
Jerry Maycock – AGL Energy Limited (AGL), Managing Director/CEO
Steve Elridge – Umatilla Electric Cooperative, General Manager/CEO

Gary Gates – Omaha Public Power District (OPPD), CEO
Trudy Rautio – Carlson Hospitality CEO
Thomas M Prescott – Align Technology Pres/CEO
Mike Giancola Orange County CEO
Ted A Beattie – Shedd Aquarium Pres/CEO
Jorgen Bul Rasmussen – Carlesberg Group Pres/CEO
Gary T Steele – Landec Corporation CEO
Tom Goemaat – Shawmut CEO
Nancy Davenport-Ennis – NPAF, PAF CEO
Janet Bornancin – TREE Fund President/CEO
John Cassaday – Corus Entertainment Pres/CEO
Simon Dow – CEO Guinness Partnership CEO
Ash Sahi – CSA Group Pres/CEO
Gerald A Strobel – Ecology & Environment, Inc
David Lumley – Spectrum Brands CEO
Trudy Rautio- Carlson, Pres/CEO
Brent A. Marsteller, Cabell Huntington Hospital Pres./CEO
Peter Thoreen – UnityPoint Health and UnityPoint Health St. Luke’s CEO
Edward J. Graham – South Jersey Industries CEO
Diana Oblinger – EDUCAUSE Pres/CEO
Paul Beeston – Toronto Blue Jays Pres/CEO
Brent Callinicos Uber CFO
David Barger – JetBlue CEO
Sandy Woods – Nevada County Faigrounds CEO
Murray Kopelow, MD – Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME)
William G. Sutton, CAE – Leasing and Finance Association (ELFA) Pres/CEO
Jeff Belskus – Hulman & Co CEO
Paula Dorion-Gray – Dorion-Gray Retirement Planning CEO
Donald E. Morel, Jr. West Pharmeceutical Service
Robert J. Weil, McClatchy Operations VP CEO
Randy J Snyder – Wesco Aircraft Pres/CEO
Art Peck – Gap Inc, CEO Carol Meyrowitz, TJX Chairman & CEO
Tom Welch – Grange Insurance Pres/CEO
Martin J Gavin – Connecticut Children Medical Ctr – Pres/CEO
Chris Borovansky – Stanislaus County Fair – CEO
Warren King – Austrailian Minister of Defence CEO
Jim Kennnedy – Ohio Mutual Insurance Group CEO
Ronald A Ott – Fitzgibbon Hospital CEO

Marie N. Greene- NANA Regional Corporation Pres/CEO
Pam West – Vital FCU Pat Halloran – Orpheum Pres/CEO

bcjams
bcjams

if thats not a list of the people who should know when to bug out then what the hell is

bcjams
bcjams

and who here really wants to live in post modern mad max world anyway…so chill out

lynnwood
lynnwood

Comment by spiralbeard on May 5, 2015 @ 9:27 am

THANK YOU!

azure
azure

A mainstream news station contacted Infowars requesting information about Jade Helm, to which David Knight responded in extreme detail, but the station ignored the facts he provided and spun concerns over the controversial military drill as “paranoid.”

“When KVUE contacted me and we spoke verbally, they said they were looking to do a fear vs. fact piece,” Knight said, who spent 30 minutes on the phone with the Austin, Texas, station and e-mailed them extensive information about Jade Helm. “I tried to give them the facts, but ABC apparently wanted to emphasize the fear, label it ‘paranoia’ and ignore the facts.”
But in the interest of giving the public full access to the facts regarding Jade Helm, instead of allowing mainstream media to bury them to the government’s benefit, we have published below the e-mail exchange between Knight and KVUE, which the station never used in its reporting.
KVUE: 1) If Jade Helm 15 is not a training exercise, what do you believe Jade Helm 15 is? Why? Where are documents/proof?

David Knight: There’s been a concerted effort to deliberately misrepresent of what we’ve said. Thank you for being one of the few outlets to contact us for comment. Most articles have proceeded to build a strawman and then tear it apart.

We first reported on Jade Helm on March 22. The Drudge Report picked up the story and the Jade Helm document but establishment media ignored it until this week. There has been a media frenzy mischaracterizing our concerns in the last couple of days. Here are some of our responses:
Mainstream Media Rushes to Demonize Infowars Over Jade Helm
Dallas Morning News Attacks Alex Jones Over Jade Helm

We never said this was going to be martial law. But given the history of 9/11, 7/7 (the London subway bombing) and other drills where first responders were involved in a training exercise and a real attack happens at exactly the same time, place and manner as the training scenario, we should keep a watchful eye on any training exercise outside of military bases.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-truth-about-jade-helm-they-dont-want-you-to-know.html

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And here comes the mainstream media disinformation

sbarnett
sbarnett

So, I’m on late today, but still top 100. LOL!. Hey, I’m late because I have just had the most craziest day ever. I wish I could fully expound upon it, but there are confidentiality agreements involved. I can say that it involves the mortgage industry and a settlement and what just happened to me has never, ever happened to me in my legal career. Life is getting very strange.

wolfintimber

Excellant-Thanks very much Ben…..Namaste…..

frankful
frankful

Does anyone know how much gold there is in the world?

If the Chinese royalty are owed $30 Trillion, that alone is almost 750 thousand metric tons… (at $40 per gram).
The Persian gold, worth $46 Trillion is 1.15 million tons.

Officially, according to Reuters, there is just 170 thousand tons of gold in the whole world. The highest unofficial figure I’ve seen is at 2.5 million tons.

Any insider info on this?

Thanks.

wolfintimber

From this article-QUOTE:The state instruments of suppression of speech erode human relations, impoverish the human experience, and deprive us of individual influence and political engagement. We have a natural right to speak and to hear others speak. No entity has a legitimate right to silence individuals. The damage done by the legal instruments of suppression of speech is immeasurable.:UNQUOTE…..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/disappearing-freedom-of-speech-in-canada-in-the-march-toward-totalitarianism/

May the great earth humans continue to speak up and give the house a name……

This is our star nation-the earth humans run this outfit…..The dark rulers moment of tyrannical sociopathic processies on earth and in the greater star nation is now coming to a conclusion…..Adieu bientot des minion diable…..

Namaste all fine members of the family of light…..

frankful
frankful

Did not read spiralbeard’s question on the same issue before posting. Seems we’re after the same answer! 🙂

lynnwood
lynnwood

OK, what happened to Caleb again? I always come in late and caleb is always the last post, and today, no Caleb in the Cafe at all!

Do tell, what happened?

archeoastronomer
archeoastronomer

Hello everyone! I’m Beanie and would like to join your blog, if it is alright. I just had a few things to mull over.

Ben I’ve been enjoying your posts for years. I rarely if ever post here but I enjoy this blog because of the warm, positive, loving vibes. Ben’s gold article is making a murky international picture more clear. Especially the agents provocateurs at Ferguson and Baltimore. The protestors at Baltimore tried to keep the burning/looting/assaults at a minimum but people were tweeted to meet for a looting and off some went. The black citizens there were terrorized in their own homes, wanted nothing to do with the violence, and were outside the next day sweeping up broken glass.

That list of CEO’s bailing out instead of being bailed out was quite a shocker.

You know they are getting out while the getting’ is good. Target just laid off tons of people here in the States, after closing doors in Canada. Thanks for that list BCJAMS, I’ve passed it on to my email list telling them where I got it.

RE: Stew Webb. Jeff Rense. He’s on a campaign to smear Gordon Duff and is accusing him of trying to get him arrested. Gordon is the only reason I would listen to the broadcasts. He’s a lot more intelligent than others there. I’m sticking with Gordon; he’s got a lot of moxie and experience. The smearing of him is upsetting though. Rense has interesting broadcasts but his rants against Jews seems too much; he seems to truly hate them and it is unbalanced. It makes me uncomfortable so I don’t listen to him anymore.

Well that’s it. Thank you for letting me post here.

Beanie.

caramelpopcorn
caramelpopcorn

Kim Young Hee is quite hot.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

OK, what happened to Caleb again? I always come in late and caleb is always the last post, and today, no Caleb in the Cafe at all!
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I was eaten a very large tomato

Like in in the attack of the killer tomatos

It’s a terrible way to leave

But we’ll always have ketchup

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Does anyone know how much gold there is in the world?
If the Chinese royalty are owed $30 Trillion, that alone is almost 750 thousand metric tons… (at $40 per gram).
The Persian gold, worth $46 Trillion is 1.15 million tons.
Officially, according to Reuters, there is just 170 thousand tons of gold in the whole world. The highest unofficial figure I’ve seen is at 2.5 million tons.
Any insider info on this?
Thanks.
Comment by frankful on May 5, 2015 @ 4:36 pm

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Nothing against you Frankfull, liked your post just philosophying

the gold has value,….. why again?__________________________

what the hell is it with shiney metals and diamonds?

I know Gold supports paper currencies better than fiat fake

Yet lust for Gold and Silver is an age old mirage that ails us.

____________________________________________

The gold and silver is a bar?

I don’t buy

The grand currency is “Labor”

Slavery pays well to the 1 %.

The global economy still deals in serfdom and city state.

Precious metals and diamonds

Is the Fiat

For the Labor that went into making it

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

bcjams on May 5, 2015 @ 3:34 pm

a load of pages that say nothing

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

For the record BC jams sucks

roytheboy
roytheboy

Re the Fox News false shooting story…

It sounds to me as though this was a planned false flag that got rumbled a little too early and had to be pulled.

They couldn’t afford to have another one that would be blown out of the water as soon as it appeared.

I think it would be fair to say that ‘rent a mob’ were in town on the basis that the Crips and The Bloods were saying that the riots and unrest were nothing to do with them.

So it seems as though the crisis acting teams , the ‘on scene reporter’ were already in place to compliment ‘rent a mob’.

It would be interesting to see what that reporter has to say now about the incident.

And who was that witness? Have we seen him/her before at other incidents?

Just some thoughts.

Roy x

Grendizer

Top 10,000. Great.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Roy

Really?:Caleb Really?
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More games from you,
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Yawn

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

When is a DVD not a DVD?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan

FLAT head screws

and star bits

calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan
filip4
filip4

Maybe top 100 ?, but if 1000 also not bad !

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Bulgarion Harmonies

https://youtu.be/p1OZjvBrJgs

intruth
intruth

I feel this is important so I took the liberty to bring it to the new article.
Yet another piece to the puzzle..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/
“NEO – So Much More Than Nukes
Is evil for evil’s sake alone so farfetched?”
Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 5, 2015 @ 10:10 am
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Excellent article Ukdena. Thanks for posting.
Another layer in the confusathon.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

All the King’s horse-men and all the Kings men

Couldn’t put Humpty together again

suncrystal
suncrystal

Hey, guys!

Has the weird “flat earth theory” ever been discussed here?

I find it fascinating, especially since the way these theorists perceive the earth is exactly the way it appears on the UN flag, with the “South Pole” being a huge wall of ice around the outside, holding everything together:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Nations#/media/File:Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg

They say that if the earth was round, pilots would always be having to adjust their planes down a bit so they wouldn’t fly out into space, a correction they Never Ever have to make.

They say that all pics of the Blue Marble and the universe, including Hubble pics, come from NASA, and we know they are definitely cabal.

Jeesh. If this is true, O.M.G.!!! Just wondering how y’all feel about this!

suncrystal
suncrystal

In support of the flat earth theory and NASA’s involvement, this Hubble pic has always creeped me out:

http://www.skyimagelab.com/helixnebula.html

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Jim Carrey and George Jones look alike?

If you squint and wish it true, it’s still unlikley

And Alex jones is supposedly Bill Hicks.

Bill had integrity , Alex is a blowhard

It’s an insult to Bill to compare him with that Jones guy

wheelie
wheelie

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/
Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 5, 2015 @ 10:10 am
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#119
Hello Earthlings, 🙂

Please consider checking out Ukdena’s post above if you haven’t already: a fascinating addition to Ben’s jaw-dropper summary today.

Now when we consider the parting of ways at VT: we have Misters Webb, Rense, Fetzer, Henderson v. Misters Duff, Fulford, Santilli, VT Editorial & Mgmt. Maybe other known feuds like Weber v. Annet dovetail.

Comments?
Cheers and thank you for sharing everyone! – Wheelie

intruth
intruth

Has the weird “flat earth theory” ever been discussed here?
Comment by suncrystal on May 5, 2015 @ 9:13 pm
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Suncrystal, go back and read the posts from the prior 2 weeks. It was discussed extensively.

intruth
intruth

World’s first anti-propaganda search engine launching soon that favors Independent Media while banning government and corporate disinfo

Monday, May 04, 2015
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

(NaturalNews) For the last six months, I have been working hard on the development of a breakthrough search engine that will finally offer a credible search alternative to the NSA-funded, surveillance-state search engines currently dominating the web.

Next week, I’ll be opening the webmaster URL submit page for the world’s first independent, anti-propaganda search engine that filters out corporate propaganda and government disinformation. The search engine is free to submit to and free to use. It’s funded entirely by advertising that appears on the search results page.

Uniquely, this independent search engine either bans or flags (with a warning) all corporate propaganda and government disinfo websites. Just as Google flags search result URLs containing malicious code that can infect your computer, we will flag search result URLs containing malicious propaganda that can infect your mind.

This means you won’t find the CDC’s vaccine propaganda dominating search results, for example. Instead, you’ll find a universe of independent websites that have been suppressed, censored or outright banned by Google. You’ll also be able to help protect the integrity of the search results by flagging corporate propaganda and government disinfo using the clickable feedback icons present on the search results pages.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/049591_anti-propaganda_search_engine_independent_media_corporate_disinfo.html#ixzz3ZGcQjej7

intruth
intruth

SCHOOLS Using Two Fold Attack on the Human Psyche, Human Mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=GJWZmE1kl1I

Published on Apr 22, 2015

Deborah Tavares interviews Dr. Preston James. Aquarius Operations Briefing Please circulate this important interview, and subscribe to StoptheCrime.net

XL

Re: Comment by ugmmichael on May 5, 2015 @ 11:58 am
>My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force.

Isn’t this the same guy that is selling custom headbands with hammered copper and crystals in them?

XL

Re: Comment by suncrystal on May 5, 2015 @ 9:13 pm
>Has the weird “flat earth theory” ever been discussed here?

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Why did you have to bring that up again? *grin*

Like intruth said, go back and read the last few weeks of comments, entirely too much was said about it.

intruth
intruth

Samples of Israeli Horrific Brutality and War Criminality in Gaza
by Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/04/samples-israeli-horrific-brutality-war-criminality-gaza/
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Very disturbing accounts by the IDF trained soldiers. Guess who is training our police in Amerika? Yep, the IDF.

XL

Re: Comment by intruth on May 5, 2015 @ 9:35 pm
>World’s first anti-propaganda search engine launching
>soon that favors Independent Media while banning
>government and corporate disinfo

Not to sound negative on this, but it will never work.

Until the underlying problems are cleared up, they will simply infiltrate this system and abuse it just like they have every other one.

intruth
intruth

Looks at the ‘planted’ 1st comment after this article:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/04/samples-israeli-horrific-brutality-war-criminality-gaza/

Priceless piece of crap.

intruth
intruth

Comment by XL on May 5, 2015 @ 9:44 pm

I thought the same thing – I was wondering if he’s being naive. Good try though.

suncrystal
suncrystal

Sorry about the flat earth question, guys. We’re moving so have been busy packing up this entire house. (Yikes!)

I’ll definitely have to look and see what y’all said….

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

flat earthers live on a solitary slice of microfilm

no turning, no revolving is happening for them

it is a static island with no depth \

A Frisbee sitting out there like a thin wafer in nothingness

In flat head view there are no stars or planets,

the lonely earth as flat UFO with a Dome

flying in nothingness.

I find that depressing and unrealistic.

azure
azure

The other shoe?

SCORPIO INTEL, 4 MAY
Non-classified RV/GCR and Earth Intel Report from Scorpio for Monday, May 4

(Note: This is completely raw intel from Classified sources and may or may not come to fruition. User discernment is advised.)

Non-classified Intel Report – Mon, May 4, 2015 at 19:58

Intel has been coming in that the majority of the U.S. Military and French Intelligence operating in the USA are plotting to force an engagement with the High Treason Nazi Paperclip Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate to annihilate them completely within 48 hours

Expectations of the Admiral to go in tonight and possibly within the above time frame is probable according to sources and contacts.

Wait and watch are the only things we can foresee.

|Scorpio|

Dinaresgurus.blogspot.com

azure
azure

Hmm referencing the Henneghan site also brings the same Intel.

P.S. At this hour, President Barack Obama and current and former members of his cabinet are being threatened and blackmailed by the Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate that is seeking to take complete control of every organ of the U.S. government, including intelligence agencies, all financial regulators (that are already totally corrupt) and the military, before the 2016 presidential election cycle even starts.

Note: This won’t work! The majority of the U.S. Military and French Intelligence operating on American soil are determined to force a showdown and an eradication of the HIGH TREASON NAZI Paperclip Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate within 48 hours.

Tonight it is CODE BRANDYWINE.

http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com

azure
azure

Hey, guys!
Has the weird “flat earth theory” ever been discussed here?
I find it fascinating, especially since the way these theorists perceive the earth is exactly the way it appears on the UN flag, with the “South Pole” being a huge wall of ice around the outside, holding everything together:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Nations#/media/File:Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg
They say that if the earth was round, pilots would always be having to adjust their planes down a bit so they wouldn’t fly out into space, a correction they Never Ever have to make.
They say that all pics of the Blue Marble and the universe, including Hubble pics, come from NASA, and we know they are definitely cabal.
Jeesh. If this is true, O.M.G.!!! Just wondering how y’all feel about this!
Comment by suncrystal on May 5, 2015 @ 9:13 pm

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Guess what? Commercial planes all fly a parabolic flight path as do all planes. What goes up must come down.

whirlpool
whirlpool

For what it’s worth. I knew Dave Goldberg personally, and interacted with him socially a number of times. I’m also close friends with some of his close friends and longtime colleagues.

Writing that people are evil or ‘have reptilian souls’ is easy when it’s an anonymous message board, and the person is some seemingly unreachable celebrity, politician, or media figure.

When you actually know the person, and know people who grew up with them as just ordinary people, it’s amazing how silly and cartoonish that sounds.

Is Ben’s info accurate? Maybe. Did he just pass away suddenly and naturally, and credit was claimed for it? Maybe. Was it just wrong place wrong time, and he was a decent guy who ended up a victim of circumstance on the larger geopolitical chessboard? Maybe.

The truth is always more complex and nuanced than we’d all like. Apply discernment and common sense.

azure
azure

Request a song be turned into 432 hz.

http://432hzlovefm.blogspot.com/p/request-song-tuned-to-432hz.html

Check this song out converted from 440 he to 432

http://youtu.be/18YLdEODLaE

azure
azure
Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus
XL

Re: Comment by azure on May 5, 2015 @ 11:10 pm
>Sequence of events leading to “The Event”

I think that was written late 2011. Many of the plans have changed since then.

azure
azure

I think the premise is still the same XL

Regarding the Scorpio and Henneghan post. Lets think about this. Why would the Pentagon telegraph their moves?

They wouldn’t unless….

“Sting”

azure
azure

FCC Commissioner: Feds May Come for Drudge

By Rudy Takala | May 4, 2015 | 1:18 PM EDT

(CNSNews.com) – Federal Communications Commission (FCC) member Ajit Pai said over the weekend that he foresees a future in which federal regulators will seek to regulate websites based on political content, using the power of the FCC or Federal Elections Commission (FEC). He also revealed that his opposition to “net neutrality” regulations had resulted in personal harassment and threats to his family.

This can’t be good.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rudy-takala/fcc-commissioner-feds-may-come-drudge

XL

Re: Comment by azure on May 5, 2015 @ 11:28 pm
>I think the premise is still the same XL

Yeah, I think most of it is still the same. The big differences are they are no longer planning on evacuating the surface of the planet, as that does not seem to be necessary anymore.

>Regarding the Scorpio and Henneghan post. Lets think about this.
>Why would the Pentagon telegraph their moves?
>They wouldn’t unless….
>“Sting”

Yeah, those messages are a bit odd. Someone is purposefully putting them out to multiple sources, but the question is why?

A sting only works if it is believeable… Are they desperate enough to believe it?

deester
deester

Fox news and RT busted. They report a black man was shot by cops in Baltimore, complete with interviews and footage, then quickly retract. Why are people not asking where they got the footage and witnesses from? Fox news said they witnessed the event.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-witnesses-baltimore-shooting

Excerpt:

Fox News correspondent Mike Tobin said that he and his news crew witnessed what he described as a “young, black male” being shot by a police officer in Baltimore while running away on Monday afternoon.

Tobin described seeing the man run “right in front of us” and that he never saw the man turn.

“I was getting ready to do a live shot for my shift … I was sitting in the car, scribbling on my notes for the next live shot, and he ran right in front of us,” Tobin said. “I never saw the individual turn and do anything I would consider an aggressive act, but we did see the officer draw his weapon and I counted one gunshot.”

Tobin also mentioned he “clearly saw a revolver on the sidewalk” after the shooting.

More on site.

Then comes the retraction.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/04/young-black-male-chased-down-and-shot-by-baltimore-police-gun-recovered-report/

Excerpt: Baltimore Police said Monday that reports of a black man being shot by an officer are not true. Officers recovered a handgun at the scene and arrested the suspect in question.

The man was put into an ambulance shortly after the incident, but officers later reiterated that “no one was shot.”

More on site.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/fox-news-apologizes-for-false-baltimore-shooting-report-206569.html

Excerpt: Fox News anchor Shepard Smith apologized to viewers on Monday after one of the network’s correspondents erroneously reported that a black man had been shot by police during protests there.

Earlier in the day, correspondent Mike Tobin said he saw police officers chasing a man and that “a police officer drew his weapon and fired and struck the individual who was running away.”

The Baltimore Police Department soon issued a statement declaring that no such shooting had taken place: “The reports of a man being shot at North and Pennsylvania Ave are NOT true,” the Baltimore PD tweeted. “Officers have arrested a man for a handgun at the location.”

More on site.

Say, Shep, you have been hung out to dry by your handlers. Ask yourself what Brian Williams did wrong to be exposed as a fraud.

deester
deester

Good – more websites questioning Sandy Hook. The more, the merrier. Squirm, Cabal, squirm! For the years of planning, DHS or FEMA really sucked at staging.

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=24266

spiralbeard
spiralbeard

re: retracted Baltimore shooting

http://gawker.com/witnesses-say-baltimore-police-shot-man-in-back-cops-d-1702088673

There is an apparently amateur video uploaded via uStream at this link that shows what appears to be legitimate chaos surrounding a body on the sidewalk. The woman interviewed on Fox can be seen and heard.

“They shot that boy in the back right in my face.”

There is a crowd surrounding the scene of the incident that is soon dispersed using pepper spray. They back people up at least a city block away and park fire and police vehicles in the way so no one can get close or see what’s happening.

Very strange. Is it possible FOX got it right, but then backed off their initial report to align with a predetermined narrative? Who was this person laying motionless on the sidewalk. If it’s a false flag gone wrong, I don’t get it.

valtony
valtony

buongiorno

intruth
intruth

Is Ben’s info accurate? Maybe. Did he just pass away suddenly and naturally, and credit was claimed for it? Maybe. Was it just wrong place wrong time, and he was a decent guy who ended up a victim of circumstance on the larger geopolitical chessboard? Maybe.
Comment by whirlpool on May 5, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
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The NY Times is reporting head trauma:

Dave Goldberg, Silicon Valley Executive, Died of Head Trauma, Mexican Official Says

Excerpt:
SAN FRANCISCO — Dave Goldberg, the chief executive of SurveyMonkey and husband of Sheryl Sandberg of Facebook, died of head trauma Friday night after he collapsed at the gym at a private resort in Mexico, according to a Mexican government official.

Mr. Goldberg left his room around 4 p.m. on Friday, collapsed while exercising and died of head trauma and blood loss, said the spokesman. His brother, Robert Goldberg, found him on the floor of a gym at around 7 p.m., with blood around him. The spokesman said it appeared “he fell off the treadmill and cracked his head open.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/technology/dave-goldberg-cause-of-death.html
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Looks like a hit and he was bludgeoned.

intruth
intruth

Comment by deester on May 5, 2015 @ 11:47 pm

I’d love to hear what goes on at Fox (faux) news meetings. Can’t wait for the book…

Edge
Edge

Dr. Jim Willie Interview—
Grexit concerns, US Economic Implosion…more
—————-
Paul Sandhu

Published on May 5, 2015
Dr. Jim Wille: http://www.GoldenJackass.com
1) What are the main pressure points in Greece these days ??

– Turkish Stream coming to the Greek border, significant revenue for nation
– Russia entering the picture with military bases
– finally Athens has leverage in debt negotiations
– Greece is model for debt resolution, since Italy & Spain have 10x population

2) Russia & China will establish greater trade, what are consequences ??

– their annual trade will increase to some $200 billion annually
– look for trade settlement in RMB, to add to its global legitimacy
– sharing CIPS bank transaction system, Union Pay credit card, debt rating agencies, more
– they are setting the Eastern standards
– next they might shock the world with huge gold reserves announcement (perhaps secret still)
– RMB will be the transition vehicle for Gold Trade Notes as letters of credit
– RESET is truly on the horizon, argued & pushed & resisted but it will happen (likely in 2015)

3) What is your take on the Chinese with Intl Monetary Fund and SDR revised basket ??

– the Reformed SDR basket was to include RMB, Yuan, Gold, Silver but then Ukraine War hit
– my belief is that SDR will add the Chinese RMB in a brilliant stroke by Beijing
– Beijing will seed the entire major nation banking system with RMB bonds
– maybe more than just Chinese Govt Bonds, like UKGovt bonds in RMB denomination
– China has risks with debt and paper asset market bubbles, even property market bubbles
– but China has no external debt and 25,000 tons in gold reserves
– transition to come: from SDR inclusion to Gold Trade Note then later gold-backed RMB & Ruble with perhaps a full set of BRICS gold currencies
– the global financial structure desperately seeks a solution
– RESET is a misnomer for Return to Gold Standard, manifested in the Trade Ramps
– if IMF SDR basket becomes the new reserve currency for global banking, then shock to me
– if USTreasurys are pushed out of global banking reserve system, then RMB in, Gold in
– to be sure, China took control of the IMF in 2013 (to exploit it, not shut it down)

4) US Retail chains are in the midst of a colossal slam.. what is going on ??

– USEconomy still has more retail space at work per capita than any other nation in world
– just the beginning, or better described as middle stage in collapse
– remember the morons at the helm, claiming US consumption powers the economy
– consumption does NOT power economy, but rather business investment (lost capitalism)
– big shock will come when Sears shuts down, possibly this year
– major US Retailers closing 6000 stores permanently, announcements made recently
– assures QE to be permanent, as even Fed Governors have begun to admit—
—————–
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRs1VGzreU

vermithrax
vermithrax

http://globalnews.ca/news/1980152/suspicious-packages-delivered-to-courthouses-across-nova-scotia/

Recycling fear porn TPTB are…this time it’s the old Anthrax scare, but in Canada this time. Bet ya dollars to donuts they blame ISIS for this.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/05/isis-does-dallas-shootout-at-nazi-rally/

““ISIS Does Dallas,” Shootout at Nazi Rally

Nazi Race Rally Attracts Possible FBI False Flag”

“At a Dallas rally organized by the Mitt Romney team and local Mormons, a more than slightly theatrical “event” took place. When we ask “Who benefits?” the answer is clear, Gert Wilders and a broad coalition of right wing extremists closely tied to the Israeli security services.

Do the powerful backers of Gert Wilders have the power and influence to work with the FBI and Mossad to stage a human sacrifice to the god of racism? The answer is “yes, of course they do.” Should we appreciate that only two “marginalized” victims were chosen rather than a school full of children?

Yes, we should be thankful.

Two supposed ISIS shooters, one long under FBI “surveillance/supervision,” were killed at white supremacist rally. Heavily armed police were on site.

The pair didn’t come from part of the reported death ray wielding, tunnel crawling 400,000 man ISIS contingent reported as part of the Jade Helm “hillbilly hoax.” However, is there something wrong, is this a “false flag?” VT gives it an 80%.

Gert Wilders is Israel’s flag bearer in Europe, perhaps one of the most effective neo-Nazi rabble rousers now building a coalition across the European Union from Scotland to Kiev. Muslim and African immigration is their rallying cry, frankly a very real problem in Europe.

Muslim immigration represents much of the labor force in Europe, particularly Germany. In the process, however, key cities like Rotterdam, Paris, Malmo and a dozen or more others have Muslim communities wracked with crime. Unemployment here among young Muslims is more than 50% and there is opportunity or even public education available.

At the same time, however, Muslims and in particular Turkey, a “non-member” make up much of the professional and most vital economic factors holding the EU together. The EU began as a failed super-state with an imaginary currency, a hodge podge of social welfare states, ostensibly to be ruled by Germany in what was intended to be Hitler’s dream of a united Europe but with less marching and singing.

Wilders would have it otherwise.

That Dallas was chosen, not by ISIS but more likely the Mossad, is obvious. This is home base for the Bush cartel, the Hunt family and the 3rd generation of plotters intent on overthrowing the US and setting up a brutal theocratic dictatorship. Murder and hate has been the theme of Dallas since long before November 22, 1963.

To be quite honest, though Texans are, on the whole, a warm hearted band of misfits and fun lovers, there has always been an undercurrent there more tied to oil, big money and fascism.

What is also reasonable to surmise, based on real evidence and trying to separate out the mass of half-baked blogger fear porn that tries to pass for journalism, is that whoever planned this planned the Paris “Hebdo” event as well.

Nobody sane bought in on Hebdo.

Is there a worldwide right wing conspiracy, orchestrated by Netanyahu, Romney, the Bush family, the Bronfmans and their “alternative media” puppet in the US?

Do they stage false flag attacks to push forward their agenda? Our answer is “yes.””

interesting comments too.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Interesting times…..

Now Kerry Cassidy (a self promoter) is badmouthing Gordon Duff and Mike Harris. Harris and her have been friends and appeated on each others shows many times. Mike is not someone who will stand idly by when someone insults him as Kerry did so he responded in like.

I am posting both links…make up your own minds.

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2549-veterans-today-cia-fbi-vets-patriots-and-jade-helm

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

darn Ipad.

Here is the Mike Harris rebuttal:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/kerry-cassidy-descent-in-to-insanity/

“Kerry Cassidy: Descent Into Insanity”

beegee
beegee

Re:

David Wilcock’s new GaiamTV show “Disclosure”, Season 1, episode 3

In this episode Mr Bauval mentions the mystery of the tunnel from the queen’s chamber (in the great pyramid) with a hidden door that goes nowhere, and does not extend to the exterior of the pyramid. He wondered aloud what the purpose could be. And it suddenly struck me that if the pyramid is indeed some sort of resonance machine, opening and closing that door could change the ‘tune’, similar to a musical instrument.

I would also like to say that I am really enjoying the new Disclosure series, and that David is doing a fantastic job as an interviewer.

Thank You David for all the hard work and preparation you put into disclosure, and “Disclosure”.

😉

wheelie
wheelie

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 6, 2015 @ 2:49 am
Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 6, 2015 @ 2:52 am

Thank you UKDENA, keep ’em coming. What an interesting Alternate Media Polarization process.

Team Duff gets Mister Harris, Miss Cassidy goes to Team Webb, with a player to be named later, James Corbett? Weber, Tellinger, Annet? Icke?

intruth
intruth

Listening to Jim Willie that Edge posted. Jim is really fired up..

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by wheelie on May 6, 2015 @ 3:34 am
*************
hahahahaha.

So far Ben appears to be on team Duff………..

It is rather like an unfriendly divorce…people side with one or the other. Friendships end. People are sad. People are mad. and life goes on.

intruth
intruth

Prestigious Health Magazine Covers Geoengineering

by Dane Wigington
Contributor, ZenGardner.com

With each passing day the curtain of secrecy and controversy surrounding the climate engineering issue is being pulled back. When prestigious and reputable publications are finally willing to publish feature articles that address the ongoing geoengineering insanity head on, we are indeed gaining ground in this battle.

Health Freedom News is a hard hitting publication that is dedicated to exposing the truth for the common good. Their editors have shown exceptional courage and commitment to their readers, subscribers, and supporters by printing the article below in their current issue. The magazine article can be read by clicking the individual images to enlarge them. Again, my most sincere gratitude to Health Freedom News magazine for their courage in addressing the critical issue of climate engineering.

Dane Wigington
geoengineeringwatch.org

filip4
filip4

Suncrystal ! Flat earth…
Where have you been ?, there are some here who indeed have discussed the flat earth theory, among them myself.

There are several Youtube videos showing the strangeness of the routes airplanes are making globally. But maybe they just have to avoid other “ Bermuda triangles” out there and therefore make big detours ( even doubling the routes) over the big oceans ?
Here just a couple of them :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fvS5az5iU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-SsXIJp80

Read the comment ,3 weeks ago under above video !If this is true…what a bomb of information !!!!!!

mefredsr
mefredsr

World’s first anti-propaganda search engine launching soon that favors Independent Media while banning government and corporate disinfo

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/049591_anti-propaganda_search_engine_independent_media_corporate_disinfo.html

intruth
intruth

Texas Legislators Attempt to Give Federal Reserve Guards Arrest Powers

By Aaron Dykes

Truthstream received a message last week from Rep. Jonathan Stickland about his efforts to filibuster and delay this potentially dangerous transfer of power to none other than the Federal Reserve banking system.

Bill H.B. 2346 would grant commissioned officers of the Federal Reserve some of the powers given to sworn peace officers – including powers of arrest, search and seizure – in matters taking place on Federal Reserve property or, more broadly, in matters related to the Fed.

And that’s where the power could go unchecked. The extent of the influence and “business” of the Fed in the nation’s economy is far-reaching, if not all encompassing, indeed.

It has been stalled for now, but for how long is not certain. Giving arrest powers to a private force working on behalf of an unaccountable and shadowy private central bank is clearly a sloped and slippery path.

…Already, officers at the Federal Reserve have been involved in systematically intimidating citizen journalists and threatening them with arrest for filming the central bank.
https://youtu.be/SYmjG8ajmYE

more –
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/05/texas-legislators-attempt-to-give.html

XL

Re: Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 6, 2015 @ 2:52 am
>“Kerry Cassidy: Descent Into Insanity”

An interesting rebuttal. Surprisingly, it did not say much at all in the way of added information. It was more of a rant than anything else. I was not all that impressed.

One thing in Kerry’s article did pique my interest, and that was the aspect of Jade Helm being used to ferret out the hard-core patriots. I think there is something to that, this exercise will definitely bring out the fanatical “patriots”, but for what purpose? That part remains to be seen.

The smart patriots will watch closely and plan their moves, but the fanatics will just grab their guns and head out without thinking it through… *sigh*

azure
azure

It’s not surprising that the lie about a flat earth gets perpetuated. People want to think of the Earth as flat. One only has to observe the Sun and the Earth’s rotation around the Sun. This is what I was trying to get at earlier. An orbit of a disk around the Sun would at some point get sunlight on both sides or one side would be dark or light all the time.

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/09/21/who-discovered-the-earth-is-ro/

intruth
intruth

A System Where We’re All Merely Cogs in a Broken Machine, Nothing More
By Melissa Dykes

This cartoon doesn’t have any dialogue. It doesn’t need any.
https://youtu.be/cxUuU1jwMgM

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/05/a-system-where-were-all-merely-cogs-in.html#more

valtony
valtony

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intruth
intruth

Dr. Jim Willie brings up an interesting point – all the narco funds are in USD. Countries aren’t going to want to move away from the USD because of the lucrative narco business. I figure this along with the humongous military spending keeps the USD alive longer than anyone expected.

intruth
intruth

Eric Dubin: The New World Order, Economic Collapse, Gold Price Reset, and Jade Helm 15

Posted on May 5, 2015 by The Doc

https://youtu.be/-yFkj-WeGYs

Submitted by Rory Hall, The Daily Coin

The United States is in the business of conducting war and China and Russia are in the business of conducting business. – Rory Hall, The Daily Coin

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the United States and the west are on the fast-track to collapse. But where do Russia and China fit into this picture? A lot of analysts assert that the New World Order will involve the western elitists working in cooperation with Russian and Chinese elitists and the collapse of the west has been planned all along.

I don’t think the facts speak to that thesis. The desires of the political elites, and the neocons in particular, are pretty explicit: these people are not interested in cooperation with Russia… – Eric Dubin, The News Doctors

There’s merits to both side of the debate. But if Russia and China are “joined at the hip” and the people in control of the Government in those two countries are not in bed with the United States/west, how will the relationship between Russia and China play out as economic dominance shifts from the west to the east?

http://www.silverdoctors.com/eric-dubin-the-new-world-order-economic-collapse-gold-price-reset-and-jade-helm-15/#more-53103

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/05/is-new-world-order-dying-10-recent.html

“Is The New World Order Dying? 10 Recent Headlines Offer Hope”

“We know the saying, you either see a glass half empty or half full. Your attitude, mindset and expectations guide your perceptions which in turn will guide your stated views and opinions of the world you live in. That said, depending on how you view the world one might make an argument for why the new world order is slowly dying out.

Perhaps I’m being overly optimistic or perhaps my intuition is correct on this one. One thing I strongly believe: humanity is not designed to live in false government paradigms of slavery and statism. Those who live for government and the state will hold these beliefs, but nature and the rest of humanity tells another story. Humanity naturally yearns to be free of all control systems. Though a certain percentage of humanity actually needs and wants to be under the control of government, this segment of humanity only wishes this because they know nothing else and they are afraid of a stateless world where they might have to care for themselves. For now, let’s set aside these individuals who live in fear and need the state to be part of their lives, and let’s focus instead on the rest of humanity who is awakened. Let’s realize how amazing, gifted and how blessed we are as humans, and how natural it is to be free.

For those of us who have moved past the modern-day mental enslavement at the hands of the control system, it is much easier to see the victories being chalked up by humanity with every day that goes by. For those of us who are committed to viewing the world in a positive way, it is not very difficult to glance at some of the recent headlines and see where once again there are signs that show that new world order globalist elite plan at global enslavement may be postponed indefinitely. That is, the new world order is failing even though they are very much fighting back and doing everything they can to continue pushing their plan forward.

Here are just 10 recent stories that indicate the new world order could in fact be slowly dying out. These 10 stories barely scratch the surface of things that are happening at the local level everywhere in the U.S. and around the world. People really are beginning to realize that the wealthy elites and governments are the root of the problem. People are realizing how corrupt they are and how they intend to enslave us all forever. Many people are starting to see the bigger picture and this is driving a new consciousness.”

1 – Baltimore cops criminally charged……”

more on site

intruth
intruth

5/05/2015 — Forecast 3 days prior — 7.5 magnitude earthquake hits Papua New Guinea

dutchsinse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8iEa_jm7V0

intruth
intruth

CFR Says China Must Be Defeated, & TPP Is Essential to That

Posted on May 5, 2015 by Eric Zuesse.

Wall Street’s Council on Foreign Relations has issued a major report, alleging that China must be defeated because it threatens to become a bigger power in the world than the U.S.

This report, which is titled “Revising U.S. Grand Strategy Toward China,” is introduced by Richard Haass, the CFR’s President, who affirms the report’s view that, “no relationship will matter more when it comes to defining the twenty-first century than the one between the United States and China.” He says that the report he is publishing argues that “strategic rivalry is highly likely if not inevitable between the existing major power of the day and the principal rising power.” Haass says that the authors “also argue that China has not evolved into the ‘responsible stakeholder’ that many in the United States hoped it would.” In other words: “cooperation” with China will probably need to become replaced by, as the report’s authors put it, “intense U.S.-China strategic competition.”

more – http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/cfr-says-china-must-be-defeated-tpp-is-essential-to-that.html
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Ahem, where was the CFR when China was given most favored nation status in the US in 1999. C’mon. Wasn’t that damage enough to the US and was the reason China’s industry rose so rapidly? Now you say China might become too powerful? Gee, didn’t things turn out the way you planned?

intruth
intruth

Jim Stone

NSA speech to text for keyboard searchable words?

For those of you who do not know, I am former NSA. A few years ago, (right after Fukushima when I changed my web site from photography to events coverage) I stated in no uncertain terms (WAY BEFORE SNOWDEN) that ANY cell phone made 2006 or later had always on speech to text, that had the cell phone sitting there using only standby power to convert everything said around it to text, and then it would send everything said to the NSA in neat little text packages that would not kill the battery or airtime and be totally unnoticed by the user.
And I was told I was full of it, a nut case idiot – whatever, and that “they can’t and won’t do that”.

When Snowden came out with his “revelations” I repeated this – that the cell phone did not need to be “on” to record everything said around it, convert what is said to text, and send it to the NSA. I also (long before Snowden) said the NSA had every phone call in America on permanent archive, starting right around 2002. And no one believed it. But now that is at least partially admitted.

Now the speech to text aspect of NSA surveillance is in the spotlight again, from a more “official” source. FOR THE RECORD: If you are on the red list, your cell phone is definitely recording everything you say at all times even when “turned off”, converting what you say to text, and putting it in your file at the NSA. This is not a joke, and though this new “official” LINKED FROM DRUDGE report does not take this far enough, I can once again say:

I TOLD YOU SO!

And after you read that limited hang out frog in the pot to get you warmed up for more later so you don’t jump report, HERE IS THE REAL REPORT, IN A SINGLE LINE:
The NSA has, on file, in text form, provided BY YOUR CELL PHONES already converted to text before sending, EVERYTHING you have ever said around them, across ALL PHONES you have ever purchased since 2006.

CALL ME B.S. AND WAIT, JUST WAIT FOR THE NEXT MSM WARM UP and by then, if you say what you should not around your cell phone because I AM FULL OF IT, WELCOME TO THE RED LIST!

http://www.jimstone.is

intruth
intruth

US Prisons House More Inmates Than Stalin’s Gulags

Russian Insider
May 1, 2015

America truly is exceptional. Even the most uncouth chapters of Soviet history have been surpassed by the land of the $0.99 hamburger:

“Mass incarceration on a scale almost unexampled in human history is a fundamental fact of our country today,” writes the New Yorker’s Adam Gopnik. “Over all, there are now more people under ‘correctional supervision’ in America – more than 6 million – than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height.”

Is this hyperbole? Here are the facts. The U.S. has 760 prisoners per 100,000 citizens. That’s not just many more than in most other developed countries but seven to 10 times as many. Japan has 63 per 100,000, Germany has 90, France has 96, South Korea has 97, and Britain — with a rate among the ­highest — has 153.

http://russia-insider.com/en/more-people-rotting-us-prisons-height-stalins-gulags/6319

intruth
intruth

#TexasAttack What You Are Not Being Told!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vb5vNsk0qw

Summary of the latest antics.

XL

Re: Comment by filip4 on May 6, 2015 @ 4:03 am
>There are several Youtube videos showing the strangeness
>of the routes airplanes are making globally.

I love how they pick a couple of flights that take weird paths and then make their entire case out of it. Several users commented on the videos saying that they have indeed taken direct flights in complete contradiction to the video. Who knows why they take those routes, maybe those cities pay them to link to them, or maybe they are running drugs… *grin*

Also, I have watched several of the live flight path websites and you can clearly see flights going directly between those sites. There are a lot of those websites, and some of them that even integrate with Google Earth to give a 3D map overlaid on the globe.

vermithrax
vermithrax

More Jim Stone. Battle plan against the Ziotards…
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http://www.jimstone.is

Black list mail box war plan: Let’s screw the Jewish community long and hard . . . . .

Here is what I get when I try to send a mail:
SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
ESMTP Service not available
554-No SMTP service
554-IP address is black listed.

OK, so here is what you do. Take this directory of synagogues, click their web site link, go to the “contact” link to get their E-mail address and black list every one of their mail boxes. EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE: GET THEIR WEB SITE IP ADDRESS AND BLACKLIST THAT, IT WILL DEFINITELY WORK AND TOTALLY SCREW THEM. THEN, blacklist EVERY ISRAELI EMBASSY WEB SITE. Then, DO IT TO MONSANTO. THEN, DO IT TO FOX NEWS, CNN, YOU NAME IT. As Spamhaus adapts to clear blacklists, just proceed to other Jewish owned companies, this can go on forever~! It is WAR TIME, SCREW EVERYONE YOU CAN THINK OF. YOU WILL DAMAGE THEM BADLY BY WRECKING THEIR COMMUNICATIONS. You will get away with this because you don’t have to identify yourself or provide any proof whatsoever. If you want to get in the game and fight these pricks that are destroying us in a way that won’t come back to bite you, GET BUSY, let’s make such huge waves that un accountable back stabbing cannot be done, if you screw with these types of people they will demand it to be impossible to blacklist them without any proof of wrongdoing, and there will be a way provided (in the future) to rebut a blacklist. Right now, NO SPAM BLOCKER WILL EVEN ADMIT I AM BLACKLISTED, YET THERE IT IS IN PLAIN TEXT.

If Spamhaus comes up with a way to circumvent this, just move on to another spam filtering company, the damage will be just as severe.
Here is a message I sent to Spamhaus:

Face it. I never spam, and you allow people to back stab and blacklist people for purely political reasons.

I have a total combined reader base, between the main web site and mirrors, of over 10 million people. You cannot cope with that IF I instruct these people to start blacklisting perfectly legitimate web sites to get even. Perfectly legitimate web sites that happen to be the enemy.

If you fail to hold yourself accountable to bogus blacklisting, I will wipe you out, and you can’t stop it, I am out of your jurisdictional reach, have a zillion web sites and will just pop up somewhere else and keep doing damage.

Eventually you will be seen as a useless service, that can’t get its act straight with regard to blacklisting.

YOU MUST, IN ALL CASES PROVIDE:

1. TRUTHFUL INFORMATION ABOUT ALL BLACK LISTS, AND NOT KEEP HIDDEN BLACK LISTS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

2. A TRUTHFUL MEANS OF REBUTTAL AND PERMANENT REMOVAL FROM BLACKLISTS ONCE SOMEONE PROVES LEGITIMACY.

You can’t worm out of this with the shared IP ruse, ALL MY WEB SITES ARE ON DEDICATED IP’S SO IT IS NOT SOMEONE ELSES ACTIVITY TRIGGERING BLACKLISTING.

It would all be great if you were who you say you are, for now, I am already proceeding to make your service TOTALLY USELESS.

Have fun!

XL

Re: Comment by azure on May 6, 2015 @ 4:22 am
>It’s not surprising that the lie about a flat earth gets perpetuated.
>People want to think of the Earth as flat.

This is the part I find most intriguing about the entire thing… Why are people so attracted to it? I seems like a bigger story to me.

>One only has to observe the Sun and the Earth’s rotation around the Sun.

Doesn’t seem to matter, they have an alternate explanation for everything, whether it makes logical sense or not… *sigh*

valtony
valtony

il civo

rpogue
rpogue

Last week you said the pentagon killed over 6000 people by causing an earthquake in Nepal. This week you say the pentagon killed Dave Goldberg. This pentagon is a scary institution. Help me with this Ben.

ean44
ean44

The author of the following post, Dr. William B. Mount, hopes that this message soon reaches the Red Dragons. Among other things, by his account, it appears that the very secretive TPP is intended by the CFR as a means to exert control over China, through its corporations, and to inflict damage on the Chinese economy. Perhaps the offending and manipulative fascist globalist wish list TPP ought to be torpedoed?

CFR To Take Red Dragons Down A Notch | Politics

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/05/cfr-to-take-red-dragons-down-a-notch-2709470.html

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

It’s not surprising that the lie about a flat earth gets perpetuated. People want to think of the Earth as flat. One only has to observe the Sun and the Earth’s rotation around the Sun. This is what I was trying to get at earlier. An orbit of a disk around the Sun would at some point get sunlight on both sides or one side would be dark or light all the time.

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/09/21/who-discovered-the-earth-is-ro/

Comment by azure on May 6, 2015 @ 4:22 am

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Azure—-you hit the nail on the head!

We have time zones because the Earth is ROUND!!

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

I think this whole Earth is flat thing is just an experiment

to see how easily fooled we can be.

The alien invasion is next.

BrianZebeaune

Benjamin, you are writing that Dave is the Facebook CFO, but you are linking to an article saying he is the husband of Facebook CFO Sheryl.

“SAN FRANCISCO — Dave Goldberg, the chief executive of SurveyMonkey and the husband of Sheryl K. Sandberg, the chief operating officer of Facebook, died on Friday night. He was 47.”

Dave was NOT Facebook, but SurveyMonkey CFO.

mkddachs

Take this directory of synagogues, click their web site link, go to the “contact” link to get their E-mail address and black list every one of their mail boxes.
Comment by vermithrax on May 6, 2015 @ 5:50 am

So XL or vermithrax,

How does one do this? I just don’t get how to start —
willing in Texas

mkddachs

funny!!!!!!!!

mkddachs

30min Loop of Bach’s “Air on the G String” (A=432Hz)
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I have been thinking about 432hz since I got back and wanted to bring more of it into my life – this is so beautiful.
thank you

deester
deester

Bill C-51 is getting third reading tomorrow. This is Canada’s Patriot Act and Indefinite Detention proffering thanks to the very fake Parliament shootings. If you are Canadian, please write your MP. Many of them are compromised; others are not. Tell them that your vote is being determined by how they vote on this Nazi spy act

https://stopc51.ca/

glennmurphy
glennmurphy

HEY GUYS,

DON’T FORGET TO LIVE, NOW MORE THAN EVER.

THE SHIT IS FLYING BACK OUT OF THE FAN-THE BLADES BREAKING, UNBALANCED, THE MOTOR WOBBLING INTO BEARING FAILURE, SMOKE RISING FROM THE OVER-HEATED, UNDER-SPEC’D CHEAP-ASSED WIRING.

JADE HELM MY ASS. ANYBODY MISSING? ANYBODY GET SHOT IN THE STREET? AS BEN SAID TO ME YESTERDAY: “THERE IS A TON OF B.S. ON THE INTERNET, BELIEVE ONLY WHAT YOU SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES AND HEAR WITH YOUR OWN EARS.” WISE WORDS, AND THANKS AGAIN, BEN.

SO LIVE, PEOPLE. WE SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THE NET, AND IT’S SPRING, WITH THE SUMMER AHEAD TO ENJOY, ALL THE BULLSHIT ASIDE, AND CHEMTRAILS FLYING. WHO GIVES A RAT’S ASS. WE’RE STILL HERE.

PERSONALLY, I’M IN PRE-PRODUCTION ON A MOVIE, AND PLAN TO SPEND THE LATE SUMMER AND FALL ON A BOAT, ENJOYING MYSELF EVERY MINUTE I CAN. TRADE THIS COMPUTER FOR FISHING GEAR AND A WETSUIT.

THE EARTH IS A BEAUTIFUL THING, VAST, AND THERE IS SO LITTLE TIME IN THESE TINY LIFESPANS TO ENJOY IT. LET THE FREAK SHOW PLAY-ON, PET THE DOG, THROW A FRISBEE FOR HIM.

WE HAVE DONE OUR JOBS. THE GRAND ILLUSION IS BUSTED-BIG TIME. IT WILL ALL CRUMBLE OF IT’S OWN WEIGHT FROM HERE-ON.

MAYBE I’LL SEE YOU UP IN THE INLAND PASSAGE. MY BOAT IS A 29 FT. REINELL CALLED “HURRICANE HEART”, WITH THE CROSSED PICK AND SHOVEL AND PAN OF THE PROSPECTOR PAINTED ON THE BOW.

IF YOU SEE IT ANCHORED IN SOME INLET, STOP BY AND SAY “AHOY!” I’LL POUR YOU A COLD ONE.

NOW GO LIVE, AND ENJOY YOURSELVES…

PEACE,
GLENN

deester
deester

Comment by mkddachs on May 6, 2015 @ 7:51 am

I agree – how do you do this? If someone is posting on Jim Stone’s forum, please ask for step by step instructions.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by glennmurphy on May 6, 2015 @ 8:19 am
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Thanks Glenn! It sounds like you have good plans. I too have plans to spend less time on the computer and more time outside with my animal friends.

Someone here on the cafe said something like “going down the rabbit hole can be addicting…The more we uncover, the more we go deeper and deeper”.

I have reached the point that I need to go up for air, sunshine and joy.. I do not want to spend whatever life I have left in a dark, dank rabbit hole. It appears to be engineered to keep us there.

Best of luck to you.

mkddachs

NOW GO LIVE, AND ENJOY YOURSELVES…

PEACE,
GLENN
Comment by glennmurphy on May 6, 2015 @ 8:19 am
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I have been doing that more and more in the last 6 months- life can be fun and the world is beautiful. Today was lovely even with the problems.

mkddachs

It’s a Revolution of Perception – David Icke

http://www.zengardner.com/revolution-perception-david-icke/

mkddachs

When Your Back’s Against the Wall, Don’t Be There
Zengardner

That’s simply it – just don’t be there. If at all possible you shouldn’t be in a place like that. If you can avoid getting pinned against anything, that’s your smartest move. That’s why I like to keep changing and moving. But you can’t be carrying a lot of baggage if you want to do that, physically or spiritually.

Now’s a good time to free yourself from attachments and be ready for anything. Each according to his own, but you don’t want to get caught flatfooted if you can avoid it….

http://www.zengardner.com/backs-wall-dont/

lcalzadilla
lcalzadilla

Does anyone know how to contact Ben directly? The hotmail email address that he provides on the “About” page doesn’t seem to be valid.

Thanks.

lucybean
lucybean

NOW GO LIVE, AND ENJOY YOURSELVES

PEACE,GLENN

Excellent advice! I’m doing just that! I’ve quit my job and I’m spending the summer gardening and taking care of my animals. Getting back in touch with nature and feeling like a whole person again, instead of someone searching for something.

We’ve got the whole world out there. ….enjoy it.

Lucybean

kraines
kraines

is there a like button for that last comment by lucybean ?

mkddachs

benjamin fulford at hot mail dot com

mkddachs

SILENT POWER

The first act of silent power is detachment. Seeing things in a less emotional or dramatic way, allowing people to be whatever they want to be, even if what they are is dangerous and ugly.

The second part follows automatically; it is the ability to become a neutral force in life. Not altering very much, not consuming very much, not talking so much, not being too insistent or fixed into a system or into a reality you’ve created for the ego’s benefit. The idea is to be fluid and loose… an observer not a talker.

The third part is about selflessness, it’s about seeing how you will serve humanity, but not as part of the ego’s aggrandizement, or as a business, but more humbly, more silently, and more selflessly.

It may be hard to understand that life’s spirit is not about you…. It’s never about you…. It’s always about others, because in the end there is no you, only your higher self, who seeks to love, and connect, and serve humanity.

It may seem to you that you’re important… but in the end you are completely unimportant… It matters not if you are here on Earth or gone, it’s irrelevant. If you think life it’s about you, then you’ve not evolved very far as yet.

It’s very hard for people to understand this, but all real power will be denied to you until you learn that you can’t use it for your own benefit; it’s only for others and the greater glory of true love here on Earth.

In the letting go you get everything but what you get you can’t keep… it’s never “yours”, nor can you wield it either; if you do that it may destroy you (as it will destroy the archons).

Once you know and accept that none of it is for you and that it can’t be used for money making or self importance, only then you can proceed.

Selflessness is a learned skill, we are not born that way, it comes from a great discipline of the mind. You teach the mind not to desire itself, not to want for itself.

Eventually you will come to ask : How will I serve today ? instead of : what’s for breakfast ? who will sustain me today ? who will pay me… who will notice and admire me today..?

Silent power… While others talk, remain quiet. When they panic, stay calm. When they run, stand still. When they eat, fast. When they demand and want things, ask for nothing.

It’s always the act of going in the opposite direction that the collective mind will go, for the collective mind will burn itself out rushing around. You stay still, conserve your energy and wait and watch…. It all comes to you in the end if you are selfless and you don’t seek it and yearn for it…. And you can wait for it for as long as it takes…

Stuart Wilde

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by mkddachs on May 6, 2015 @ 10:00 am
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Melissa, thank you for posting words of beauty from Stuart Wilde. I love that man! It is strange to know that he went to the next world 2 years ago (May 1, 2013)…..I continue to be inspired by him…at night…listening to his cd’s.

A friend of mine here in town was friends with Stuart. Whenever I get together with her we speak at length about Stuart.

What a sense of humor that man had…I’m certain he still does. . I could go on and on…but I won’t. hahahaha

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by kraines on May 6, 2015 @ 9:56 am
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Yup. You just pushed it. 🙂

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by deester on May 6, 2015 @ 8:09 am
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The Mohawks are getting the same rub from Canada. You don’t have to be Canadian. Asking them where they want to relocate in Canada when they were there first. This mind set is everywhere the indigenous live, Hawaii no exception. Contracting, contracting, contracting down a one size fits all path.

Malama pono,

Momi

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Can you offer any proof the world is flat?
without arguing how it cannot be a globe?
Comment by calebbrennan on May 2, 2015 @ 2:47 pm
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Can you prove it’s round without making arbitrary assumptions?
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Gill

Yes.

People here have offered numerous proofs the world is a sphere that are not arbitrary but measurable.

You and Dubay have offered zilch, not one iota of evidence that the world is flat

When we observe the world we live in,

from the macrocosm to the microcosm,
one thing remains constant.
Nothing is “Static”
Nothing is ‘stationary.

Everything is in motion, spinning and turning, even the blood in our veins and arteries is circulating.

The flat earth concept is utter bunk, and your response above is extremely lame.

The reasoning of trying to prove what something is by what is not is patently ridiculous.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

I’m presently engaged in an online purchase dispute.
Just found out I’m not alone in the “scam” (nothing new, yes).
For what it’s worth, sent a Notice and Demand, next small claims complaint. A shared experience from one contract (merchant) to another (court). Get the judge to be your Advocate General. :)D:

Malama pono,

Momi

gillfinn
gillfinn

Can you offer any proof the world is flat?
without arguing how it cannot be a globe?
Comment by calebbrennan on May 2, 2015 @ 2:47 pm
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Can you prove it’s round without making arbitrary assumptions?

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But we’re speaking of the earth, not arteries and blood. No one has ever stated the world is a static pancake. There simply is no absolute proof the world is a globe other than your programming which runs deep, I get it.

For that, you’re struggling at best. No one here has offered absolute proof as it’s impossible for them to do so, they can only stay within their own realm of observation/proof offered by the controllers, programming, and mainstream study.

There’s much more to the picture and your globe than you or I know. All I know for sure is what’s been presented so far is not enough for me to arrive at a definitive conclusion. If you can prove otherwise, prove away. No mirages allowed.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Caleb, none of us have the answers …we are all still searching for the truth about….just about everything.

We may very well have answers to the spiritual questions but the illusions that have been created are still a mystery to most of us.

I feel it is extremely important for us all to bring whatever, whatever, we find to the table here in the cafe. The piece of the puzzle may not have meaning for some and for others it does.

We honor one another when we are willing to let others think/feel the way they do, even if we disagree. It is good to express a difference as long as we don’t take a stand of “my way or the highway”. I am not finger pointing at you, merely pointing the way to harmony for all of us here.

xxxx,
Ukdena

vermithrax
vermithrax

Mkddachs, Jim Stone posted this bit so hopefully this will help you out concerning blacklisting in the article of Stone!s I posted…

USE THIS BLACKLIST LIST TO GET QUICK EASY ACCESS TO MULTIPLE BLACKLIST COMPANIES ALL AT ONCE, SO YOU CAN DO A LOT QUICK: http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check

vermithrax
vermithrax

More from Jim Stone:
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http://www.jimstone.is
ALL BUT TOTALLY PROVEN: PAMELA GELLAR STAGES ISIS SHOOTING IN GARLAND TEXAS

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Pamela Gellar would be able add murder to her list of slam Islam tactics, that is IF ANYONE DIED, AND IT IS VIRTUALLY ASSURED NO ONE DID, NOT EVEN THE “Jihadists”. This is very difficult to piece together because no news report has all the details and they are widely separated, but HERE IT IS:
Pamela Gellar was holding a “paint mohammed” festival in Garland Texas. Low and behold, TWO Islamic “nutcases” crashed her event and started shooting. And THESE EXACT DEAD SHOOTERS NOW CLAIM AFFILIATION WITH ISIS VIA TWEETS!. Caveat: They showed up shooting, but NO ONE took a bullet but the shooters, and BOTH died! Can you say B.S. FALSE FLAG NEVER HAPPENED BOSTON STYLE? I KNEW YOU COULD!

It really looks like Pamela staged this phony ISIS attack to help her dry her tears ONLY FOUR DAYS after the New York Transit system banned ALL political ads to block her from posting her banner ad here to the left on buses and in the subways. The blocking of her ads, which were previously approved by a judge, no doubt gave her a setback she could not cope with, so she went for the slam dunk, AN ISIS ATTACK AGAINST HER OWN EVENT! in a city a thousand miles away! HA HA HA HA HA, HOW TRANSPARENT IS THAT? No wonder why the MSM refused to put the pieces together, and instead left it all as a cattle trail of incomplete and deceptive reports. But it is my job to put it all into a cohesive picture, which in this case clearly states: PAMELA, YOU SUCK AT FALSE FLAGS!

And Pamela, IT IS VIRTUALLY ASSURED YOU STAGED THIS. If anyone really was injured, YOU are responsible and will hopefully do jail time. That would shut you up!

UPDATE: Zero hedge has all the details of what (supposedly) happened in Texas HERE so I do not need to fish up a bunch of MSM reports. It takes approximately 6 alert neurons to add New York to Texas and accurately output FALSE FLAG, this was a damn brazen stunt for Pamela to pull.

And how will this stunt be used? Well, figure this: Pamela managed to inject into the public conscience an “ISIS” attack on American soil right as we were going into the dreaded Jade Helm. No doubt the FBI and CIA and all others will know Pamela scammed this, but since they are all about subjugation of the American people and false flags anyway, they won’t prosecute, they will THANK HER and use this to screwball the American people. Pamela Gellar is therefore, in my opinion, PUBLIC ENEMY #1, and the VERY FIRST to be definitively identified on a personal level as a destroyer of freedom for the American people. This time, we have a face, location, name, and organization to pin the tail on the donkey with.

In Pamela’s version of a false flag, TWO armed terrorists showed up with blazing AK-47’s and full body armor, gave an unarmed security guard a mild ankle wound, and were shot dead in seconds by a lone police officer with a handgun. Pamela can’t dream up a plausible plot to save her life, PLASTIC KNIVES AND BOXCUTTERS ANYONE? Scenario matches THIS: Two paid actors nailed third unarmed actor “security guard” in the ankle with wad from blank while shooting at the ground. Sore spot only, no blood lost, looked at and immediately released from hospital. No one died, pure fiction after that.

AN AWAKENING:

I bet the Baltimore riots were done to justify the types of curfews that are so loved by police states. Look at every tyranny that ever existed. Curfews are the norm, and with the chief of Police saying the rioters were from other places, and the Mayor ordering the police to give these imported rioters “room to destroy”, it is OBVIOUS that Baltimore had IMPOSING CURFEWS perhaps as their only purpose. THIS IS A BIG BAD IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE:
With Jade Helm standing as an ominous precursor to a huge police state smack down THE ELITE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BUGGING OUT AT NIGHT, WHEN THEY WILL BE HARDER TO TRACK, SO CURFEWS WILL BE EVERYWHERE TO PREVENT THIS AND I NOW BELIEVE BALTIMORE WAS THE TESTING GROUND. I am not going to mince words here, THIS IS JUST TOO OBVIOUS once it comes to mind.

Sure, infrared night technology is very common, but not every militant cop has it, a vast majority do not have it and therefore the prospect of having people bugging out or changing locations at night has to be smacked down RIGHT NOW, with a false flag precedent – the riots!

Alex nailed Alexa, YEP, this web site took the plunge at exactly the same time, WAY MORE than the hit Alex got. LETS BALANCE IT ALL OUT NOW, PEOPLE, DOWNLOAD THE ALEXA TOOL BAR IF YOU ARE IN AMERICA. Internal stats show America is 75 percent of this web site’s traffic, but Alexa says it is only 8 percent! This is how they nailed this web site, but it is very easy to hit back.
Alexa has a toolbar you install into your browser. This toolbar is completely safe. Alexa will know you hit a web site if the toolbar is installed, and will increase that web site’s ranking accordingly. Alexa seems to be accurately metering the rest of the world, but is totally lying about the lions share – America. If you are in America PLEASE DOWNLOAD The Alexa tool bar here. If enough people do this, it will skew Alexa upwards, right now they are not counting 90 percent of the American visits to this web site, so 10X the normal representation is needed to strike a balance. This is a great way to help this website that won’t negatively impact your computer and as a bonus, all other truth sites you visit will see a boost in their rank as well. Thanks!

valtony
valtony

bonsoir

lcalzadilla
lcalzadilla

Thanks kraines, but that doesn’t work. This is the message that I got from hotmail:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

benjaminfulord@hotmail.com

aneeson
aneeson

Hi Icalzadilla.

You left the second “f” out – itshould be “benjaminfulford …” etc.

namaste,
Alan.

nugget
nugget

** Comment by gillfinn on May 6, 2015 @ 11:17 am **

can i ask what is day/night or how this occurs if its flat… (im with caleb here)

just curious, no judgements…

regards

deester
deester

Pamela Gellar/Rita Katz = Ziogarbage.

grindfish
grindfish

may this nightmare come to and end in this lifetime, this world and its people have suffered for so long!

nugget
nugget

mind you there is a mental image of the 3 X bad guys locked in that 1D prison from the first superman film..

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

But we’re speaking of the earth, not arteries and blood.

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we’re talking about pattern recognition in all observable matter and everything is spinning, its a living universe and everything is circulating, I used the example of the blood because our body is just one of many objects all of which are in motion. Look at evaporation and Precipitation, same thing, and that is your Mother earth.

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No one has ever stated the world is a static pancake.

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Well I beg to differ, the whole premise is the world is flat and not turning. If he’s not suggesting it’s a pancake then why not claim it’s shaped like a figure 8 or a banana?

He clearly implies the world is flat,that’s his whole thing. Or he would refer to it as “non-sphere” theory.And it’s two dimensional thinking

And you still can’t offer any evidence of it’s true shape but flat is what the theory is called, so it’s disingenuous to try to wiggle around that.

You can imply that you “get” I’ve been brainwashed, but I don’t take anything at face value, I look at what’s in front of face or in my microscope or telescope and circulating things is the pattern of this reality.

And I can easily throw it back at you and say it’s you that drank the kool-aid.

Another thing about how he presents his theory that bothers me is what I see as post hypnotic suggestion. XL pointed this out accurately, Dubay ending everyone of his bullet points with “not a globe”. Not buying it.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

A shared experience….

New post on Mohawk Nation News

ONGWE’HON:WEH RISE

MNN. May 3, 2015. “Sewatehonsiot”. Listen well. Haudenosaunee Confederacy Chiefs Council Inc. HCCC at Six Nations dismantled the Haudenosaunee Development Institute inc. HDI. Dismissed were non-ongwe’hon:weh lawyer Aaron Detlor, Director Hazel Hill, their signatory who has no clan, and board member Brian Doolittle. HCCC and HDI are registered corporations.

A secret HDI deal signed with Samsung in 2013 and 2014. was leaked to clan families. In exchange for money, HDI Inc. agreed on behalf all Haudenosaunee member nations of the Iroquois Confederacy to waive our sovereign immunity and any other claim of traditional or treaty rights to lands that these projects are using.

Detlor explained, “We shouldn’t be treated any differently from the incorporated tribes in the states.” Though sovereign immunity doesn’t apply to us under Canadian law, HDI Inc. agreed to waive it for this agreement. Unnamed HDI Inc. board members, chiefs and clan mothers agreed to proceed. HCCC is a criminal organization that violates the Kaia’nereh:kowa. They plan to investigate themselves.

All INDIAN reservations are under military control. In Akwesasne Beverly Cook of the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe Inc. is ready to illegally sign away all Iroquois Confederacy lands. [518-358-2272] Mike Delisle of the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake Inc. is secretly illegally signing away huge tracts of our land. [450-632-7500, communications@mck.ca] Chief Otsi of Kanehsatake Mohawk Council Inc. has already completed the theft. [450-479-8373 meilleur.patricia@kanesatake.ca]

New York State lawyers working with NYS government and police were on all sides of the Ronnie Jones v. Parmley case. It was an elaborate real estate scam to steal New York State from the Iroquois. The governor’s office, politicians, lawyers Hoffman, Morvillo, Abramowitz, Grand, Iason and Agnello were conniving to sell our rights to all of New York State.

New York State.

All their incorporated POW camps known as “INDIAN reservations” are surrounded by military-designed police operational response teams, ready to attack at a moments notice. The Onondaga chiefs Inc. near Syracuse have signed on with NY State. They have Wall Street where all the money is, UN for worldwide control, West Point to train the military for the empire. May 18, 1997, was one of these attacks.

Dennis Blythe, NYSP investigator, was well briefed and knowledgeable about our rights. He infiltrated the Onondaga chiefs, got control of them and ran the operation. When the case was completely to our advantage, the lawyers dropped the case? 13 out of the 100 victims refused to take the financial settlement. Our lawyers dropped us. Now the collusion between legislative, judicial and the police, all answering to the military, will be revealed.

What’s going on? US and Canada want to finish off the INDIANS. It’s their time to feel some of the pain they’ve been inflicting on others. The same 13 banking families run all ends of the corporation of the US and Canada.

This past weekend a true meeting of the real Rotinoshonni [Iroquois Confederacy] met in Ganiengeh. We pledged to stand the tree of peace back up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Did we miss something? Did we forget someone? You think you have it bad?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Malama pono,

Momi

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

We honor one another when we are willing to let others think/feel the way they do, even if we disagree. It is good to express a difference as long as we don’t take a stand of “my way or the highway”. I am not finger pointing at you, merely pointing the way to harmony for all of us here.
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I doubt Gill and disagreeing about this will erupt into anything, I love the guy. Still I trust my instincts when something smells bad. ( In-stinks) Har HAr

Your friend

The Nose

accuchip
accuchip

may this nightmare come to and end in this lifetime, this world and its people have suffered for so long!

Comment by grindfish on May 6, 2015 @ 12:03 pm
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I assume you are referring to the nightmare of the flat earth discussion.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

No one has ever stated the world is a static pancake.

Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 12:29 pm
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Yep, and I’ve been waiting to see who besides myself would say it could be a pancake, then it would make a little sense the world was “flat as a pancake”. Too funny.

I’m just glad it is what it is.

Malama pono,

Momi

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by accuchip on May 6, 2015 @ 12:56 pm

🙂

Another, too funny.

What a delightful forum. I wouldn’t leave it even if the world was indeed “flat”. It is what it is. Too funny.

valtony
valtony

to bed now

stefie444
stefie444

OK, here we go with 2 very cool posts (links below the title of the 1st post) on the riveting topic of…. yes, flat vs round. I go for the roundish perspective rather than flatish. Either way it’s an interesting take.

Flat Earth Conspiracy Round Earth Mystery – Earth is Flat then Earth is Round and Now Earth is Flat Again – Post ONE

http://flame24soul.blogspot.com/2015/03/flat-earth-round-earth-planets-prison.html

http://flame24soul.blogspot.com/2015/03/flat-earth-conspiracy-round-earth-flat.html

nugget
nugget

** Your friend
The Nose
**

i used to think it was a heel and ankle ?!

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

In regards to all philosophical constructions of the universe

the axiom I live by

It ain’t the meat its the motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrupRQD44I

There is a reason they call it a Uni-Verse

Uni is One and Verse is the song

One song

mozart
mozart

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mozart
mozart

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nugget
nugget

hollow round earth with some flat bits…

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

If the universe is a song

sharps and flats are all accepted

classical indian music always understood the “Out of tune” micro tonal

so I reject that our singing mother is in anyway flat

though she can be sharp

Areatha Franklin and is on pitch and exploding

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by mozart on May 6, 2015 @ 2:11 pm

Wow, that’s amazing…… almost makes me dizzy.

Anybody know what’s good for an upset stomach from eating too many pecans? I guess to avoid that you are supposed to soak them overnight and bake in a very low oven for many hours until the turn into easy to digest crunchy snacks. Maybe I will try it, but at the moment I just need something calm down this queasy feeling. Maybe this whole round/flat thing is what’s really creating the problem 😕

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

** Your friend
The Nose
**
i used to think it was a heel and ankle ?!
Comment by nugget on May 6, 2015 @ 1:43 pm
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I think it was a nose, but it could have been shoulder with an arm across, I got it off the web searching for noses,

that avatar is a symbol of perception

Pattern recognition ,

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Baking soda Steff

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

may this nightmare come to and end in this lifetime, this world and its people have suffered for so long!
Comment by grindfish on May 6, 2015 @ 12:03 pm
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I assume you are referring to the nightmare of the flat earth discussion.
Comment by accuchip on May 6, 2015 @ 12:56 pm
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I genuinely huff laughed at this,

No matter your opinion it’s hilarious that we in a forum can discuss the most abstract Ideas

that is cafe

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I guess we all have our own cosmology

I think we live in construction of notes in a symphony
that reverberates and swirls like an EDDY- whirl pool

each of us a fire fly and a whole note

calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan

the end part stirs my emotions that soaring triumphant vocal

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Now for something completely different

It’s Hard To Say I Love You When You’re Sitting On My Face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UspGqdwcbQs

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGVShoAWp00

What’s That Smells Like Fish’ BLIND BOY FULLER (1938) Ragtime Blues Guitar Legend

duffer1
duffer1

Correction:
Not sure if anyone covered this in the 200+ comments but Dave Goldberg was not the COO for Facebook. That was his wife. He was the CEO for SurveyMonkey. An entirely different company with a rather significant capability in itself.
Their software does many things including accurate predictions in election outcomes. It seems election outcomes mirror the exit polls eg. +2 = -2 etc.
Anyhow, Dave did not work for Facebook. Or at least officially.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan
calebbrennan

flat head screws don’t turn, don’t spin, they strip because they are designed to malfunction.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

We could be on the precipice of understanding

The pancake and the waffle

nugget
nugget

Wrt to fastener discussion.. It should be noted that the correct size and type of tool be used with any fastener in question.. I’ve seen office folk doing up wood screws with butter knives?!

nugget
nugget

** Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 6:59 pm **

I’ve got it… We haven’t found four of the sides yet!

Regards

zantor
zantor

GaiaPortal 5-6-14… “Denouement of old paradigm patterns accelerates”

Posted on 2015/05/05 by kauilapele

This seems like a positive message. Here is a definition:

Denouement: The final resolution or clarification of a dramatic or narrative plot”; The outcome of a sequence of events; the end result.

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Denouement of old paradigm patterns accelerates.

Foundational grids have been laid and now manifest in all dimensions.

The paradigm of forced compliance affects only those attempting to enforce.

Celestial connections are primary at this time.

Star Seeds plant their Star seeds rapidly, and with ease.

Accelerations of “abundance” paradigms manifest the Nova Gaia

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/gaiaportal-5-6-14-denouement-of-old-paradigm-patterns-accelerates/

zantor
zantor

sorry for extra bold

XL

Re: Comment by cornpoppin on May 6, 2015 @ 7:00 am
>I think this whole Earth is flat thing is just an experiment
>to see how easily fooled we can be.

Well, it is indeed an experiment, but I’m still not sure in what.

XL

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 10:25 am
>The reasoning of trying to prove what something is by what is not is patently ridiculous.

Agreed, any debate that relies entirely upon discrediting the alternative hypothesis isn’t really a debate.

Put up some evidence!

intruth
intruth

Florida Man Faces 15 Year Sentence For Sex On A Beach (But Still No Bankers In Jail)

5/05/2015

This is what “justice” looks like in the Oligarch States of America. If you’re a pleb who gets caught having consensual sex on the beach, you’re immediately convicted and face up to 15 years in the gulag. Meanwhile, if you’re a banking executive responsible for crashing the global economy, you’re rewarded with trillions in taxpayer bailouts and backstops and given free reign to continue your crime spree.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-05/florida-man-faces-15-year-sentence-sex-beach-still-no-bankers-jail

XL

Re: Comment by gillfinn on May 6, 2015 @ 11:17 am
>There simply is no absolute proof the world is a globe other than your programming
>which runs deep, I get it.
>For that, you’re struggling at best. No one here has offered absolute proof as it’s
>impossible for them to do so, they can only stay within their own realm of
>observation/proof offered by the controllers, programming, and mainstream study.

And what would be more proof than scientific explanations that can be observed as correct? Regardless of who came up with the theories, if they are proven correct, they should be correct?

Is there ANY way to prove ANYTHING? Not if you are going to disregard all evidence as programming.

intruth
intruth
XL

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 5:45 pm
>flat head screws don’t turn, don’t spin, they strip because they are designed to malfunction.

They were designed they way they were because that was the best design they could do with the tools they had available at the time.

gillfinn
gillfinn

** Comment by gillfinn on May 6, 2015 @ 11:17 am **
can i ask what is day/night or how this occurs if its flat… (im with caleb here)
just curious, no judgements…
regards
Comment by nugget on May 6, 2015 @ 12:01 pm

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Hey nugget, as we’ve mentioned before, the ‘flat’ word isn’t the best description, but I guess they picked it as contrast. I’m sure hundreds of years ago they looked into the sky and assumed because the sun and moon appeared round, then by all apparent accounts the earth must also be.

But they didn’t. For some reason it was common knowledge, handed down by those knowing for sure, that the earth had a slightly different configuration. I believe they’ve always kept the definitive history along with earth’s antiquity a guarded secret according to prevailing technology and whatever spirituality had the most pervasive grip on the population’s overall consciousness. 500 years ago they decided to go round and they’ve made every effort to enforce the belief.

There were, for the first time, definitive discoveries made during the decades of the 1920s-late 1950s by Admiral Byrd and his extensive expeditions. This is when NASA was formed as a cover/clearinghouse, just as the Smithsonian in Washington was, to fund and suppress all antiquity and come up with ‘agreed upon’ alternatives that fit their mainstream learning institutions and vice versa. All tightly compartmentalized/controlled.

In answer to your question and many others, they’re all answered with alternative theory in many videos on youtube and vimeo. No one knows for sure what’s been going on, particularly in the last 150 years, on into the industrial revolution when the handlers really ratcheted down ‘solid’ info and released all types of consumer distractions, while using the education system to construct good corporate servitude.

No one’s forcing any alternative proof on anyone because we don’t have anything other than questions and a conspirational coverup between multiple countries. Personally, it doesn’t mean I’m going to ‘dislike’ the earth if I find out it’s been a shape other than my programming’s allowed me to accept.

It could be as round as a marble, I don’t know for sure. Sorry for the blather.

XL

Re: Comment by mkddachs on May 6, 2015 @ 7:51 am
>So XL or vermithrax,
>How does one do this? I just don’t get how to start –

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=report+a+spam+email+address

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+report+a+spam+website

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I’m looking for common ground

can we all agree planets are not cubes or microfishe film?

or frozen frisbees sitting in vacuum of nothingness?

What is the common denominator? Of being human

Spin Turn and Dosey doe, the heavens dance within us and around us.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

it might be an elaborate hologram

but if that’s the case

I design it with my thoughts

as the smallest component of a hologram contains the infinity of the whole.

xander
xander

The Prime Universal Law is very simple:  All beings are Sovereign and have free will to express their creative urges in any way they choose, but no being has the right to violate and harm others.

The corollary to that law is also very simple:  Because all beings are Sovereign, they have the right to defend themselves from harm, using whatever level of force is necessary to stop the violation from occurring, even if it results in the destruction of the one inflicting the harm.
The enslavers and deceivers of the Spiritual Liararchy are in clear, total violation of Universal law. They avoid the Natural “Law of attraction,” which reflects a being’s actions back to them, by coercing and manipulating other beings into agreeing to be victimized and enslaved, as well as convincing other beings to take on responsibility for their crimes through karmic transference.

The demiurgic being’s many layers of deception are predicated on the BIG LIE that we are separate from Infinite Source.  The false-light beings then build upon this lie by convincing beings that Universal Law doesn’t exist, that individuals have no inherent right to self-defense, that they must submit to the will of the Turds of Karma’s “authority,” and that people must worship the psychopathic demiurge and his “angelic” beings in order to be granted entry into “God’s kingdom” one day.

The real truth is that we have NEVER been separate from Infinite Source, as that is a metaphysical impossibility.  A being can choose to ignore their connection, believe it is not there, and even believe that they have severed that connection, but belief in a lie does not make it true, because Truth is not relative.

The LAST thing the liararchy wants is humanity coming to an understanding of Universal Law and how thoroughly we have been enslaved through deceit.  The INSTANT we declare “I am Sovereign and NO being has ANY right to take my energy from me” the game changes radically.  From that space of knowing that we are Sovereign Individuations of Source, we can exercise our Sovereign Rights, including righteous use of defensive force.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

If dubay had said the earth was caterpillar in metamorphosis to becoming a butterfly,,………I could get with that

or the earth is a banana, that would9 warrent conversation

Dubay message is one note, flat tire,
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I’ve never stopped questioning reality, its what I do.

DU -Bay is pumping 2d perception, du-ality programming, and pancake breakfast.
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We live on a living creature that is hyper dimensional and goes way beyond being a sphere.

It lives in the spiral
turning and tuning
creating a harmonic .

One important whole note in a symphony

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 5:45 pm
>flat head screws don’t turn, don’t spin, they strip because they are designed to malfunction.
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They were designed they way they were because that was the best design they could do with the tools they had available at the time.
Comment by XL on May 6, 2015 @ 8:21 pm
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I’m not talking about flat head screws. you know that

It’s just the best metaphor

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

star bits

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

I have a relationship with the sky

yet roots to my mama go deep

XL

Re: Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 9:12 pm
>I’ve never stopped questioning reality, its what I do.

Same here… I analyse practically everything nowadays, questioning non-stop. It drives my wife nuts when my kid does the same thing and we get into some strange philosophical discussions. *grin*

>DU -Bay is pumping 2d perception, du-ality programming, and pancake breakfast.

You have a point there, what he pushing can be described as 2D, the downgrading of our perception. Basically, dumbing down the people.

xander
xander

If music be the food of love, play on…

So true.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by mozart on May 6, 2015 @ 2:11 pm
*****
There, there….do you feel better now?

hahahaha

rebecca
rebecca

Dubay ending everyone of his bullet points with “not a globe”. Not buying it.
* * * Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 12:29 pm* *

William Carpenter (1830 – 1896) wrote “100 Proofs that the Earth is not a Globe.” Not Dubay. You’re “not buying it” is right on!! 😉

nugget
nugget
rebecca
rebecca

re: “Put up some evidence” . . .

“I have projected many miles of railways and many more of canals and the allowance [for curvature of the earth] has not even been thought of, much less allowed for; thus a small navigable canal for boats, say 30 miles long will have, by the above rule an allowance for curvature of 600 feet. Think of that and then please credit engineers as not being quite such fools. Nothing of the sort is allowed.”

Engineer, W. Winckler in Earth Review Oct. 1893

nugget
nugget

Hey Rebecca, he’s referencing based on the fact that it would visible, yet alas, his point of reference is not flat?!

Assumptions of mine and the usual disclaimers…

rebecca
rebecca

Another Surveyor and Engineer of thirty years wrote to the Birmingham Weekly Mercury, Reb. 15th,1890

“However bigoted some of our professors may be in the theory of surveying according to the prescribed rules, yet it is well known amongst us that such theroretical measurements are incapable of any practical illustration. All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as true levels or flats. Anything appproaching to 8 inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance, could not be worked by any engine that was ever yet constructed.

food2
food2

Glen Murphy,

Your message will be forefront in my day today! As Don Miguel Ruiz has us consider; ” Believe nothing you see…”.

Last night we watched a Matt Kahn video that was based on the same idea, from Dec 24, 2014. It was about Truth… what is truth? What is our truth? It was powerful and caught me up in realization that there is something way past just truth-seeking.

Thank you for your good message!

pam

deester
deester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._L._Robertson

The Robertson screw is a Canadian invention – to quote wolfintimber, “Yeah, Baby!”

intruth
intruth

A cursory examination of available intelligence on the DVD shows it to deeply parallel the Council on Foreign Relations. For years, intelligence organizations have stumbled over mysterious secret societies, cults, cabals and cartels. In order to add a sense of unity and structure, terms were developed — Khazarian Mafia, Bilderbergers, Illuminati, Black Nobility and many others including Dr. Preston James’ SSG (Secret Shadow Government).

Could or would a group exist only to dominate and destroy? Is there some inherent reward in entropy alone? Consider Bush or Blair, consider Cheney or Netanyahu. Is evil for evil’s sake alone so farfetched?”…..
more on site. An amazing article. Duff used to scoff Michael Shrimptons notion of Germany being another evil empire…. Duff has changed his views on this recently.
Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 5, 2015 @ 10:10 am
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So I wonder what the future holds for Germany – skipping off into the sunset hand in hand with Russia and China- no longer a close ally of the US – as it seems to be doing? Since the DVD supposedly has ‘franchises’ all over the world – where are they?

Is the DVD, the mother-of-all secret societies?

nugget
nugget

** Comment by rebecca on May 6, 2015 @ 11:28 pm **

I will reiterate my response.. By the same logic it’s 8″ downhill too?!

The point of reference is not static..

valtony
valtony

Buenos dias

nugget
nugget

How do you account for satellite weather images?! Lol, I think this is rediculous.. I’ve seen the ISS go by with a telescope?!

I don’t think it’s being raster scanned… Meh, who the fruck knows

Regards

XL

Re: Comment by rebecca on May 6, 2015 @ 11:20 pm
>“I have projected many miles of railways and many more
>of canals and the allowance [for curvature of the earth]
>has not even been thought of, much less allowed for;

They didn’t allow for curvature back then because they were using levels. Thus, even though roads curve over a distance, you can measure anywhere along it and it will show it is level.

But it is not true that they do not allow for curvature in their planning. For example, when they build bridges, they have to take into account that the support tiers are further apart at the top than the bottom.

food2
food2

And, Ukdena, a priceless comment;

“Someone here on the cafe said something like “going down the rabbit hole can be addicting…The more we uncover, the more we go deeper and deeper”.

I have reached the point that I need to go up for air, sunshine and joy.. I do not want to spend whatever life I have left in a dark, dank rabbit hole. It appears to be engineered to keep us there. ”

YES! Engineered to keep us there!

pam

XL

Re: Comment by rebecca on May 6, 2015 @ 11:28 pm
>All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be
>regarded as true levels or flats. Anything appproaching
>to 8 inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the
>distance, could not be worked by any engine that was ever
>yet constructed.“

This is a fact that is repeatedly and grossly misintrepreted in the flat-earth community. I’ve seen it repeated many times to justify many things, but it is not correct, and it is becoming quite annoying.

Just because the earth curves does NOT mean that you have to travel uphill or downhill while moving across the surface. Because the globe curves, and gravity is a constant force pulling (or pushing) you to the centerpoint, no matter where you are along the length of the track, you are travelling on “level” ground.

nugget
nugget

** Comment by food2 on May 6, 2015 @ 11:39 pm **

The caveat being you cannot rebury your head, no matter how hard you try…

Regards

nugget
nugget

** Comment by nugget on May 6, 2015 @ 11:33 pm **

I thought I made it eloquently concise…

Meh

intruth
intruth

Black Swan Event-Shift in Consciousness-Catherine Austin Fitts

By Greg Hunter On May 6, 2015

https://youtu.be/K73gNKjFx0I

http://usawatchdog.com/black-swan-event-shift-in-consciousness-catherine-austin-fitts/

waldheim
waldheim

extra late at 282…..

nugget
nugget

And let’s face it, if it is flat and we are supposedly technically where we are, then falling for a globe theory as such could only mean frankly there is no hope of nothing if we can’t get the basics even close to reasonably true…

This is a feedback indicator of who’s foruming what, pertaining to a “dead eye dick” simple search string..

Regards

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Denouement of old paradigm patterns accelerates.

Foundational grids have been laid and now manifest in all dimensions.

The paradigm of forced compliance affects only those attempting to enforce.

Celestial connections are primary at this time.

Star Seeds plant their Star seeds rapidly, and with ease.

Accelerations of “abundance” paradigms manifest the Nova Gaia.

ÉirePort

https://gaiaportal.wordpress.com/author/eireport/

XL

Here is a good discussion of designing things with the curvature of the earth in mind:

http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/29jrhq/how_if_at_all_do_architects_of_large_buildings/

mkddachs

Comment by lcalzadilla on May 6, 2015 @ 11:44 am

not kaines but your welcome – remember to insert both f’s
into the address…

nugget
nugget

** Comment by ugmmichael on May 7, 2015 @ 12:06 am **

Aye captain, man the bilge pump…

Lol

Regards

mkddachs

FLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearth
FLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearth
FLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearthFLATearthROUNDearth
Comment by mozart on May 6, 2015 @ 2:11 pm

It would make a good Dr Zeuss story, kind of like buttering the other side of the bread he came up with..top side or bottom side and it lead to the destruction of their society’s.

nugget
nugget

** Comment by mkddachs on May 7, 2015 @ 12:12 am **

For its round if it’s flat and you can go flat right round,
indeedy it is, for round is flat and flat is round

“page 2”. ^

XL

Re: Comment by mkddachs on May 7, 2015 @ 12:12 am
>It would make a good Dr Zeuss story, kind of like buttering the
>other side of the bread he came up with..top side or bottom side
>and it lead to the destruction of their society’s.

That does seem to fit in with the Dr Suess storylines…

The realization that everything you thought you knew was wrong was a common theme among his books. How the population reacted to that information always seems to make a good story.

nugget
nugget

It’s true, it’s true..
I saw it on tv..
Was a chick in a boat,
And she travelled by sea..

nugget
nugget

The supposed space bro,
Now surely he must know,
Is it round, is it flat
So many questions to throw..

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

In addition to being Hillary’s boyfriend and emotional husband, Foster was handling the Clinton’s personal business (Whitewater, tax returns, everything) while on the payroll of the government. Foster also had a big file on the fiasco at Waco which Hillary had played a big role in. It was Hillary, acting through Vince Foster & Webb Hubbell, who had ordered the final FUBAR assault on the Waco Branch Davidians on April 19, 1993- it was not Bill Clinton and it was certainly not Attorney General Janet Reno who had been on the job for two weeks. 76 men, women and children were killed or murdered depending on your point of view.

http://1984arkansasmotheroftheyear.blogspot.com/2012/02/chelsea-clinton-is-biological-daughter.html

The mold of this clone witch must be destroyed!

nugget
nugget

Answers of course,
So hard to find,
Well at least it seems,

When you just use your “mind”..

nugget
nugget

Distractions of clones,
Grids to align,
So much shit,
Not much time…

nugget
nugget

Destruction, destruction..
Is it round, is it flat
Does it really matter,
Are either of them fact…

valtony
valtony

Comment by calebbrennan on May 6, 2015 @ 3:40 pm
It’s Hard To Say I Love You When You’re Sitting On My Face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UspGqdwcbQs

Caleb: You are soooo right, that is what my boyfriend told me last night

nugget
nugget

Is it round, is it flat..
It depends on your gaze,
Are you seeing a map,
Or just lots of haze…

XL

Here is another phenomena that is extremely difficult to fake in a flat earth scenario:

Circumpolar Stars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumpolar_star

I’ve seen this myself after watching the sky for many nights during Desert Storm (we didn’t have much else to do). Watching the stars literally circling around the north star was impressive, to say the least.

Since we were not too far from the equator at the time, we could also observe this in the south, albeit to a much lesser degree.

This observation is only possible when you are on a spinning object, and since objects are visible in one part of the world while not in another and has clearly defined pivot points, that object has to be spherical in nature.

While you could theoretically fake one pole doing it, you cannot fake both poles at the same time.

nugget
nugget

Is it round or is it flat,
The question remains
Valtonys boyfriend,
Has the last say?!

nugget
nugget

Poles and holes
And no not being rude,
For they also make,
The flat idea crude..

nugget
nugget

Is it round, is it flat,
Could even be hollow?
To really know,
The heart must be followed..

nugget
nugget

Or maybe that chick,
Far out at sea,
Saw more than she says,
Knows more than thee..

nugget
nugget

Fell off the edge?
Put back on the board..
Is the creator just playing with us all?

nugget
nugget

From where does it come,
A place we call home,
Is it flat, is it round?
Perhaps a cone..

nugget
nugget

I suppose it is,
To ponder much more,
Futile really
My connection seems poor..

nugget
nugget

Is it round , is it flat
One day we’ll know
But for now it seems,
Discussions for tomorrow..

Regards and goodnight

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Michael; “Isn’t this the same guy that is selling custom headbands with hammered copper and crystals in them?” XL

Yes, that’s why I smiled. He’s mixing false infor with a few correct facts. I just didn’t what to go into it.

Thanks XL.

PS: I would like the flat earthers to explain the photos we present showing the north and south polar regions where they are located with clarity on the portals in these regions.

Michael

vermithrax
vermithrax

Jim Stone’s latest. An addendum to yesterday’s report on the Pamela psyISISop. Scroll back to my posting earlier or go to Stone’s site for more details.
——-
http://www.jimstone.is

There was no terror attack in Garland Texas, and Pamela is intentionally and willfully playing the provocateur to “justify” a total police state smack down on America during and in the aftermath of Jade Helm. There is just no other way to put it.
Even if there were no injuries and only dead terrorists, we should still have the bodies on the ground in the press photos, and there is absolutely nothing. No blood, no bodies, only fake FBI profiles and bogus staged tweets.

IT IS ALL B.S. FOLKS, AND WE CANNOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. TAKE THE FOLLOWING REPORT, ARCHIVE AND POST!

nugget
nugget

** Comment by ugmmichael on May 7, 2015 @ 12:53 am **

Who’s manning the bilge?!

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by nugget on May 7, 2015 @ 12:48 am
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(clap, clap, clap) Nice poem Nuggy Bug!
Seeing you here more often is sweet—–hopefully, it means you are feeling better?

xxxx,
Ukdena

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Thanks for posting Azar, https://gaiaportal.wordpress.com/author/eireport/

I didn’t see it above.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Sorry Zander, missed again.

intruth
intruth

BREAKING: NATO Clones JADE HELM With Similar Drills

from NextNewsNetwork:

https://youtu.be/ER6FlMSbyqs

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Geees, Xander.

ugmmichael
ugmmichael

Back to the woods.

mkddachs

Comment by intruth on May 6, 2015 @ 8:21 pm

Chuck Norris Pledges To Protect Texas From Federal Invasion

zero hedges statement about Norris was funny but then when he included it – it was very well thought out.

I esp liked where he said “If the government insists on running expanded military ops across seven Southwest states, why doesn’t it move all that “military training” south and protect our borders at the same time?!”

(good damn point – actually make it count)

mkddachs

YES! Engineered to keep us there!

pam
Comment by food2 on May 6, 2015 @ 11:39 pm
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defending bull shit and thinking it is worth all that!!!

winifred
winifred

Nice poetry, nugget. Thank you for sharing. I have been following for a while now and the flat vs round earth started about 3 weeks ago, if I remember correctly. Butter up or butter down was my response back then. It still stands as the clear answer to the dilemma.

I came to believe the earth was hollow nearly 30 years ago. I studied everything I could find on it, by Admiral Byrd and farther back. The “flat earth” belief fits nicely with the hollow earth. All the remarks discrediting anyone who thinks we may have been lied to since the first rockets shot into orbit or whether we actually did land on the moon still does not actually prove that NASA and other governments are telling the truth. Dubay may be trying to bring earth into a 2-D image but I see it more complex than that.

I have journeyed shamanically for many years now. There are 3 levels with this type of journey… the upper, the middle and the lower levels. Each has different teachers and emphasis. For me, seeing our Mother as more flat than globular works. I visualize more of a cone shape with flatness on the top, covered by a massive dome and a mountainous-shaped counterweight on the bottom where the hollow earth exists. Descriptions of expeditions to Antarctica speak of the 200 foot ice cliff that surrounds the earth but that the end of the glacier could never be seen due to the great distance and the bad weather.

Instead of repeating what has already been shared over the past couple of weeks or so, I would suggest that instead of insulting those with a different view, open a book or more and seriously, with an open mind, imagine what could be true besides what our controllers have determined that we should believe.

While some is definitely “out there” there are also some more probable ways that our home may be designed. It certainly isn’t in the shape of a pancake or Frisbee. I realize that it really doesn’t matter in the long run. I find the subject compelling… especially combined with the hollow earth theory.

And I have not forgotten that many beings are here inter-dimensionally. I have seen them many times during meditation/journeying. They are our teachers, healers, protectors, soul group members, etc. and they love us beyond our current understanding. There are also negative entities that would much rather have us fail at our mission in this incarnation. We just have to stay strong and respect each other and our differences in beliefs and opinions.

The government and religion have been lying to us for thousands of years in one way or another. More truth has been smothered out of existence that we have understanding. Just the knowledge that was lost in the fires at the Library of Alexandria should be a clue.

In closing, I would say that all things are possible. And that if you disagree with another, it isn’t necessary to try to convert them to your belief system. Some of us enjoy thinking about the possibilities a bit differently than others. Just keep an open mind and one might be surprised the knowledge that pops into your understanding.

Blessings to all. Windi

mkddachs

Comment by food2 on May 6, 2015 @ 11:29 pm

listening to it now.
__________________________________________________-

thank you deester and xl for your responses on my quires

mkddachs

nugget,

I laughed when I read your poetry – wow you have a talent.
that was so fast.

XL

Well, would you look at that!

Since there were several videos devoted to showing that flights from southern cities to other southern cities go through the northern hemisphere, and they were using those to prove a flat earth…

I went through some flight tracking websites, and tracked the same routes. Well, darn, they are going a different path than what was shown in the video.

Here is one set of flights:
http://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=FAOR&destination=YPPH

Hmmmmmm… Based off of their coordinates during flight, they are actually proving a round earth instead.

XL

Re: Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 1:49 am
>The “flat earth” belief fits nicely with the hollow earth.

So how do this fit? They appear to be polar opposites (pun intended), they share few similarities.

valtony
valtony

Beautiful day

intruth
intruth

Because Of You, Panera Bread is Removing 150 Additives (But Don’t Eat There Just Yet).

By Food Babe

Excerpt:
In 2012, I first exposed what’s really in Panera Bread’s Fuji Apple Salad, which sounds healthy but is heavily processed and loaded with genetically modified (GMO) ingredients like corn syrup and canola oil. The Greek Salad Dressing has propylene glycol in it, which is also sometimes used in antifreeze, can be toxic in large doses, and it is simply “less toxic” than traditional antifreeze (ethylene glycol) according to the EPA.

I wrote about Panera’s ham sandwiches (including the one on their kids menu), which comes with a dose of nitrates, linked to Alzheimer’s and stomach cancer. I also divulged the dirty details about the hidden MSG in several of their menu items including their Broccoli & Cheese Soup and Low Fat Black Bean Soup. None of these artificial additives are necessary, and there’s safer alternatives available.

After this investigation it was clear that Panera Bread didn’t deserve the title of the “#1 Healthiest Fast Food Restaurant in America” and these aren’t ingredients that I wanted my Mom to be eating!

In June of 2014, after thousands of people read the initial blog post and shared it with their loved ones, Panera Bread finally announced that they would commit to removing all artificial colors, sweeteners, preservatives and flavors by 2016. I was interviewed by CNBC at the time, and called on other major restaurants like McDonald’s to do the same (which I hear they are working on).

Now, almost exactly 3 years since my initial investigation, Panera Bread is finally doing what needed to be done a long time ago!

But, don’t eat there just yet! A word of caution before you eat at Panera.

While I’m so thrilled to see Panera take such a huge step, I realize it’s only a start and we have a long way to go. Many of the ingredients listed above are not slated to be removed from their food until the end of 2016. That’s over a year and a half away!

more –
http://foodbabe.com/2015/05/06/panera-bread/

intruth
intruth

Found this in a link on Food Babe’s site:

The Great Con-ola
Posted on July 28, 2002 by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig, PhD

Excerpt:

Canola oil is “widely recognized as the healthiest salad and cooking oil available to consumers.” It was developed through hybridization of rape seed. Rape seed oil is toxic because it contains significant amounts of a poisonous substance called erucic acid. Canola oil contains only trace amounts of erucic acid and its unique fatty acid profile, rich in oleic acid and low in saturated fats, makes it particularly beneficial for the prevention of heart disease. It also contains significant amounts of omega-3 fatty acids, also shown to have health benefits. This is what the food industry says about canola oil.

Canola oil is a poisonous substance, an industrial oil that does not belong in the body. It contains “the infamous chemical warfare agent mustard gas,” hemagglutinins and toxic cyanide-containing glycocides; it causes mad cow disease, blindness, nervous disorders, clumping of blood cells and depression of the immune system. This is what detractors say about canola oil.

much more –
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/the-great-con-ola/

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 1:49 am
***************
Thanks for a great post. Please push over, I’m sitting right beside you on this. 🙂

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Clean Green Wind Energy????

While the idea of clean, cheap, energy is a great and wonderful thing, there are certain interests in the world that do not want us to really have clean, cheap, energy in abundance!

So all the best ways to get it, though numerous, viable patents with which it can be achieved already exist, have been co-opted and suppressed.

We remain mired, up to our necks, in bad science, inferior education, and bullshit, chasing our tails and following false leads — like trying to prove the world is flat, for Pete’s sake.

ASIDE: Better you spend your time figuring out the location of the brainiac that planted that flat-earth seed, and try and film him laughing his ass off.

Because ABUNDANT, CLEAN, CHEAP ENERGY (ACCE), available to all, would destroy our dependency on those who presently control sources of energy in order to enslave and control us (add your reasons whey they do it here…).

With abundant ACCE we would be able to easily and cheaply produce food, and pump cleansed, desalinated water and we could stop fighting each other for high-priced scraps for which we enslave ourselves and our children.

ACCE gives life and promotes independence and removes the “dog-eat-dog” aspect of life on Earth.

Instead, they give us windmills that don’t work, and don’t even pay back the cost in work-hours and materials to produce them.

And so they have us whining for and fighting over the oil, coal, fracking, earth-destroying nuclear technologies that could have been replaced 50 years ago.

REFERENCE WIND MILLS:
http://iceagenow.info/2015/05/clean-green-wind-energy/

Cheers…
Gus

carolm
carolm

In closing, I would say that all things are possible. And that if you disagree with another, it isn’t necessary to try to convert them to your belief system. Some of us enjoy thinking about the possibilities a bit differently than others. Just keep an open mind and one might be surprised the knowledge that pops into your understanding.

Blessings to all. Windi
Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 1:49 am
_________

Hi winifred,

Are you the other Oregonian?

I love thinking about geometry. The upper, middle and lower could describe a flat shape, if you considered above and below the plane, or a sphere, if you considered atmosphere and beneath the surface, or a toroidal shape, if you considered the incoming energy, the outgoing energy and the currents in the middle, which appear spiral and hollow.

I imagine that we are all a party to the illusion of duality, or 3D life. We have our point of view as a unique individual, and our consensus reality that we all create together. We have all witnessed the manipulation of consensus reality. Most of us here in the cafe as well as a growing mass of others are awaking to see that the consensus reality is based on many assumptions that don’t hold up when we look deeper. So, we are in a place of potential where the old stories are breaking down, yet the new ones have not yet taken hold.

I observe the forms of nature to be:
1. The point: dot, sphere, seed, spore, egg, planet, sun, etc.
2. The line: string, DNA, umbilicus, filament, twisted protein, web, etc.
3. The torus: tornado, tree, magnetic field, van allen radiation belt, spiral, chakra, there are 2 entrance and exit holes, and each is both.
4. And the many holed, enfolded, multi-dimensional calabi yua which describes any self directed motile creature.

If the universe is alive, I give it shape #4.

I am beginning to suspect that our point of view determines what we can observe. The earth appears flat if we limit our point of view to one point on the surface. The earth appears round if we can imagine our point of view being off the earth. If we can see the energy patterns of spinning, then the hollow earth describes what we see.

In the end, we are all blind men describing the elephant.

intruth
intruth

Regarding the above on Canola oil – I know we’ve talked about this before. But for those who still don’t know – this article was from 2002!

Canola oil seems to be in everything. I don’t know how Trader Joe’s can claim to be GMO free – there’s lots of canola oil in their products. They are either unaware, frauds or both.

intruth
intruth

Comment by Gus on May 7, 2015 @ 3:15 am

Gus is there a link?

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

XL, no one knows how deep the earth actually is…so a flat earth would be quite deep….enough for life under the surface as well as on. The same can be applied to a sphere earth as well.

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

Florida Man Faces 15 Year Sentence For Sex On A Beach (But Still No Bankers In Jail)

5/05/2015

Comment by intruth on May 6, 2015 @ 8:20 pm
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Gosh–that struck me as so funny — I see cavemen and women having sex on the beach. lol But,how dumb is this? Can Americans afford to send this guy to jail??? In my town we are told we cannot afford to send thieves to jail.

intruth
intruth

Comment by cornpoppin on May 7, 2015 @ 3:23 am

Sure, just cut back on the necessary services to us – or add some new tax(es).

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

I met an interesting guy at the grocery store today. Long story how we got to talking but

he told me he has seizures and he has seen the irresistible white light.

I asked him if he believed he had seen the world beyond this one where dead people are

He said no, the white light is just the brain shutting down.

I said-so you think the white light is just the brain shutting down?

He said no, I know it is.”

Just food for thought…

intruth
intruth

When The Elites Wage War On America, This Is How They Will Do It

By Brandon Smith

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2588-when-the-elites-wage-war-on-america-this-is-how-they-will-do-it

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by intruth on May 7, 2015 @ 3:22 am
Gus is there a link?

REFERENCE WIND MILLS:
http://iceagenow.info/2015/05/clean-green-wind-energy/

Cheers…
Gus

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Nice article Kauilapele! Thanks.

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/kp-message-5-5-15-enough-already-with-the-fear-that-is/

“Kp Message 5-5-15… “Enough, Already” (with the fear, that is)”

breathe in……
breathe out…..

breathe in love….
breathe out fear…..

stefie444
stefie444

In the continued exploration of Earth’s shape I found this interesting question and enjoyed reading the answers. Maybe you will too.

Link to the rest of the answers: https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrTccORXUpVQqoA2FEnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTE0MGcxaWdtBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDRkZYVUkyMV8xBHNlYwNzcg–?qid=20060630133742AA77sM4

Why is everything in the known universe made up of things that are round. Planets – Cells – molecules?

18 answers

Answers
Relevance
MiG
Best Answer: simply round… or shall i say spherical objects contains the most volume in the least surface area possible, in other words, the surface area of a cube is larger than of a sphere if they have the same volume and so on and so on, for an example in the case of an air bubble and a water drop, the surface tension effect tends to decrease the surface area thus creating a sphere, same thing with planets but here, gravity also has a roll to contain as much volume as close as possible and as you know planets were created from molten rock so the surface tension also played the same roll of decreasing the surface area here too…

intruth
intruth

VETERANS TODAY/CIA/FBI/VETS/PATRIOTS AND JADE HELM

02 May 2015 12:43 Written by Kerry Cassidy

Excerpt:
I believe that Jade Helm could either be a major distraction in one part of the U.S. while they create a false flag in another part or could actually trigger at the very least a BUNDY RANCH type episode or be a veil beneath which certain key patriot leaders in these key states are rounded up or forced into Behold a Pale Horse type scenarios….

I would caution people to be alert, gather evidence and please do let me know what you are observing in your own neighborhoods and cities.

If Duff has been ordered to discredit certain players it is because his bosses at the agency that employs him have ordered him to do so… The events going down at VT may in fact be an in-fight between the FBI and a faction of the CIA and possibly other agencies, in essence a turf war. I urge everyone to stay cool and watch carefully.

Project Camelot was told many years ago by various witnesses that the end of 2015 was the cut-off point for the ringing in of the new financial system… If this is a takedown then orchestrating chaos is a likely part of their planned scenario.

These exercises across the U.S. could be a way under cover of daylight to distribute troops and equipment and create a network in place for anticipated riots and unrest surrounding a financial reset. It is also going to no doubt stake out prepper “safe places” and outlyers who won’t be willing to march obediently into FEMA camps in the event of an EMP, Solar Flare or major volcanic eruption at say, Yellowstone.

There is also a scenario in which Duff is the “fox” set up for everyone to chase. Why is it the guys out there talking about Duff don’t seem to get his role as an AGENT working for the CIA? Don’t they get just what those guys are trained to do? Disinfo is part of their tradecraft. They use it whenever it is deemed necessary and useful. The other side to that is when they do decide (or are directed) to actually tell the truth!

more –
http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2549-veterans-today-cia-fbi-vets-patriots-and-jade-helm

intruth
intruth

China Releases Moon Footage of Alien Bases

By conspiracyclub – May 5, 2015

Excerpt:

Dr. Micheal Salla has indicated that there is a Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex or MIEC, and that Earth is being assimilated by an alien agenda which also operates on Earth’s Moon.

The photo below is similar to many that I myself have seen. It appears that the Chinese who took the photo, have confirmed that aliens exist.

(photo at link)

“I was sent some pictures by a source who claims China will be releasing Hi Res images taken by the Chang’e-2 moon orbiter, which clearly show buildings and structures on the moons surface. He also claims NASA has deliberately bombed important areas of the Moon in an effort to destroy ancient artifacts and facility’s.

“Pictures yet to be released clearly show nuclear impact craters and building debris caused by explosions in an effort by NASA to destroy the truth.

China is moving toward full disclosure of the Extraterrestrial reality, if these images and future ones are verified genuine then NASA should be investigated for fraud and treason. China will be releasing all the data and images from the Chang’e-2 in the coming weeks and months, lets hope this is the beginning of a new era.”

from The Canadian, via ufothetruthisoutthere:

Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? It does seem like a better and easier idea than a floating space station with no access to any raw materials or supplies?

According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!

Sound far fetched? Milton Cooper, a Naval Intelligence Officer tells us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as “Luna,” that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller “flying saucers”.

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/05/05/moon-alien-base-china-releases-image/

truth1977
truth1977

Healers Journal News May 6th, 2015

Powerful Healing Technique For Removing Stress and Shifting Into Health

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2015/05/06/powerful-healing-technique-for-removing-stress-and-shifting-into-health/

There are many relatively unknown, but extremely powerful and effective healing techniques in existence at this time.

+ Be Well +

Truth

intruth
intruth

ROY POTTER ON JADE HELM & WHERE AMERICA IS GOING WRONG

May 02, 2015

Susan Lindauer – Covert Report

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/podcasts/covertreport/covertreport.2015-05-02.mp3

gillfinn
gillfinn

In closing, I would say that all things are possible. And that if you disagree with another, it isn’t necessary to try to convert them to your belief system. Some of us enjoy thinking about the possibilities a bit differently than others. Just keep an open mind and one might be surprised the knowledge that pops into your understanding.
Blessings to all. Windi
Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 1:49 am
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Well put winifred. I’m sure if anything Admiral Byrd and his expedition had uncovered could’ve served their agenda they’d have shared abundant chunks with us by now. But apparently it was only a catalyst for coverup, of what we can only speculate, but one day soon the truth will fall out of the bottom.

gillfinn
gillfinn

In the end, we are all blind men describing the elephant.
Comment by carolm on May 7, 2015 @ 3:15 am

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Wow carolm, I need to put down my cane and use my hands, lol, nice post. I know also this is cliche’, but the more I know, the more I …..

Yeah, I just can’t.

intruth
intruth

Why are the powers that be pushing for a cashless society?

We Can’t Rein In the Banks If We Can’t Pull Our Money Out of Them

Martin Armstrong summarizes the headway being made to ban cash and argues that the goal of those pushing a cashless society is to prevent bank runs … and increase their control:

more http://www.sott.net/article/296064-Why-are-the-powers-that-be-pushing-for-a-cashless-society

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

“VETERANS TODAY/CIA/FBI/VETS/PATRIOTS AND JADE HELM

02 May 2015 12:43 Written by Kerry Cassidy

Excerpt:
I believe that Jade Helm could either be

Comment by intruth on May 7, 2015 @ 3:54 am

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Intruth, no biggie but I posted the above yesterday as well as a rebuttal by Mike Harris you might be interested to read I am only re-posting this as a point of interest you might have missed.

Interesting times…..

Now Kerry Cassidy (a self promoter) is badmouthing Gordon Duff and Mike Harris. Harris and her have been friends and appeated on each others shows many times. Mike is not someone who will stand idly by when someone insults him as Kerry did so he responded in like.

I am posting both links…make up your own minds.

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2549-veterans-today-cia-fbi-vets-patriots-and-jade-helm

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 6, 2015 @ 2:49 am

darn Ipad.

Here is the Mike Harris rebuttal:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/kerry-cassidy-descent-in-to-insanity/

“Kerry Cassidy: Descent Into Insanity”
Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 6, 2015 @ 2:52 am

gillfinn
gillfinn

It was a year ago yesterday that my friend, Steve succumbed to his cancer treatments/therapy.
Well, they can’t keep the lid on their juggernaut much longer, it’s turning into a one way bomb.

intruth
intruth

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 7, 2015 @ 4:43 am

Thx Ukdena. I didn’t realize it was the same one.

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by intruth on May 7, 2015 @ 4:54 am
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Intruth, it was NOT a criticism… I just wanted you to see my comments and the rebuttal by Harris.

xxxx

XL

Re: Comment by Gus on May 7, 2015 @ 3:15 am
>While the idea of clean, cheap, energy is a great and wonderful
>thing, there are certain interests in the world that do not want
>us to really have clean, cheap, energy in abundance!

Yep, Tesla found out the hard way…

I’m still of the opinion that free energy is the single most important invention that could be release right now.

XL

Re: Comment by stefie444 on May 7, 2015 @ 3:38 am
>Why is everything in the known universe made up of things
>that are round. Planets – Cells – molecules?

Yes, all “natural” forms consist of round shapes. Why would the Earth be different?

vermithrax
vermithrax

More Jim Stone:
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http://www.jimstone.is
If Anonymous really did find out about the ISIS attack before the NSA did, it is only because they either:
1. Hacked Pamela’s mail, and knew it was being set up -OR-

2. Hacked a government mail box or file and found out what the NSA knew about but did nothing to stop because it was a CIA OPERATION.

I personally don’t believe any of it, after all, ANONYMOUS MEANS ANYONE, INCLUDING THE CIA OR JEWISH COMMUNITY SPINNING B.S., OR EVEN PAMELA GELLER HERSELF.
They need a rescue for this psy op, and are floating anything they can in the manure pit with the hopes of finding something that won’t sink into an ocean of crap.

Why guillotines will be used to kill American Christian dissidents

The religious basis for Jewish use of guillotines, rooted in hard fact.
This is a rebuttal to David Hodges’ claim that Muslims will be doing the beheadings. Think again, this is DEAD WRONG

I was in the Jewish community for two consecutive years, and learned enough while there to know beyond all doubt why guillotines have been chosen as the killing method for Christian American patriots.

Muslims do not do beheadings despite what you may believe about ISIS. Fortunately many people are not stupid about who ISIS really is. But that is another topic.

FACT: The guillotines were bought and paid for by NWO Jews. To circumvent this cold hard fact and try to pin it all on someone else is sheer lunacy. And the reason why guillotines will be used (when really it would be cheaper and easier to just put a bullet in the brain because you can just walk people up to the trench, shoot them and have them fall in) rather than drag them there without a head has ONE SOLID REASON, and it is shocking:

Jews have the belief that the condition your body is in at the time of death is what you will have for all eternity after death. So when they go to kill the Christians AND MUSLIMS, which Jews have a profound hatred for because they claim the same God as Jews (and Jews believe they have a monopoly status on God) they want as many as possible to be walking around in the afterlife without a head as a punishment for making a false claim to God and worshiping with what they believe is a false religion. This is a cold hard fact, like it or not, believe it or not.

That is the ONLY REASON FOR THE GUILLOTINES, it has a religious basis, rooted in the dark halls of Judaism. If you knew how “out there” some of the Jewish beliefs are you would be shocked, compared to Christians and Muslims, Jews really are stone age with their belief of freakishly illogical dogma. And guillotines fit it PERFECT.

Hodges is perfectly correct about the Mormons being targeted however. That is a cold hard fact he did not miss.

My point is that Muslims are not going to be involved (as a religious edict) with the mass killing when it happens. There will probably be brainwashed Muslims in the killing crews, along with brainwashed Christians, Buddhists and Hindus, whoever can be manipulated, but it will not be a Muslim directed effort.

Mormons will be targeted for a huge reason: They are preppers, to such an extent that stores in Utah all have a prepper section (even Wal Mart) where you can buy 50 pound bags of oat meal for $8, 25 pound bags of sugar for $10 etc and Mormons take advantage of it and are usually stocked up for Armageddon. Two years of comfortable eating is the norm among real Mormons.

Tyrants HATE THAT, they want an easy kill and that is why Utah is red.

vermithrax
vermithrax

If what Jim Stone writes is true about the Ziotards belief of ones appearance in the afterlife, then all these Ziotards will be walking about in the afterlife with their heads up their tuchis’!

lcalzadilla
lcalzadilla

Thanks aneeson.

Ben has it wrong on his webpage, then, because I just copied and pasted what he had there.

I resent my email to him with the correction, and it went through fine.

Thanks again!

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by ukdenadreamer on May 7, 2015 @ 3:30 am
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Granted and the Mohawk would like nothing better then to get rid of “fear” (see below), and so would the rest of the world. It’s not going to happen, yet. Some day, one day, any day now, another day, but not today.

Fear is the balancing power of love and peace. Too much love can spread the dis-ease (consequences) we experienced. “LOOK UP to the Lamb of God” while they took the ground (LOVE of our life) that was ours. They were not from here. They were still spreading their conquest culture and tradition. They brought their dis-ease and depopulated a dis-ease free nation. You won’t see us go through that, again, and neither will our blood relatives, the Mohawk and their blood relatives on Turtle Island. Is this fear or justice?
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New post on Mohawk Nation News

PRISONERS OF WAR PSYCHOSIS
by admin

Please post & distribute. Nia:wen.

MNN. MAY 6, 2015. First Canada passed the Indian Act 1876 to declare us as non-persons and wards of the state in. This was to take control of our Indian Trust Funds. On October 25th 1924 the Indian Advancement Act was implemented by the colonies of Canada as the 100-year plan to be rid of the “Indian Problem”. Prisoners of war camps POW called “INDIAN reserves”, were set up across Canada by the War Department in 1924. Barbed wire fences, guards, passes and permission to leave and our children removed and placed in residential school death camps. Indian Affairs is run by the Department of Defense to this day. They are now in their 90th year of completing this genocide program.

Peace in shackles. (Photo caption)

Military planners design the captivity psychosis in POW camps. They determine the standards of behavior. Brutal and unfeeling wardens select subordinates to oversee the camp. Those who do not fit in and the weaker ones are removed. Lack of adequate food, clothing, shelter and poor physical conditions create shame, stunned stupor, deep confusion, anger and death. Inmates suffer from confinement, inactivity and isolation making them inert and silent. Some are allowed to work as hired hands for local settlers. Inmates eventually become scared of being set free.

Stress and deliberate misinformation causes loss of identity and pride. They are discouraged from thinking about their past. Tension and disorder are constantly fostered between different groups. Divisive quarrels are created to more easily control the inmates. Movies and games are selected for “barbed wire madness” to create futility. Improper food and long term deterioration breaks down their thinking. Inmates become apathetic and refuse to take part in camp affairs. They can’t concentrate and lose their memory about themselves, their families and the communities they come from.

RCMP walked into the longhouse in Akwesasne, put a gun to the chief’s head and shot him dead. He was immediately replaced by the fake chief and band council system. In 1924 at Tyendinaga all of our farms in Prince Edward County were confiscated. We were arrested and interred in the new concentration campand turned into prisoners of war. It was originally 880,000 acres. As Ronald Reagan said to Gorbachev, “Tear down these walls”,

The military came into Akwesasne, Kahnawake and Kanehsatake because legally we are still prisoners of war which is still under their jurisdiction. Karonhiaktajeh, told us we are the sleeping lion. The tense hatred, accumulated anger, hopelessness and cynicism created is a military control strategy. He created a “de’INDIANIZATION” strategy based on relearning the philosophy of the Great Peace, Kaia’nereh:kowa.
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A shared experience. You need to keep fear in check. If enough is not enough, then return what was taken to make it enough, already. Why are you (generally speaking) still holding onto WHAT WAS NOT yours in the first place? Withholding justice is the dis-ease that feeds fear.

Case in point. I just captured the essence of hoarders and collectors from viewing American Pickers on cable TV. It started during the first depression. Americans and even here (also) held onto their “stuff”, because they didn’t know when they were going to get a replacement or if they were ever going to get anything. They “feared” losing something important, however it is, in their life more than winning it back. How do you get rid of fear? Love yourself first, before you spread it to others. Fear can be conquered when fear needs to be conquered.

Malama pono,

Momi

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

Comment by lcalzadilla on May 7, 2015 @ 6:24 am
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Ben has his address purposely wrong to foil spammers.

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by XL on May 7, 2015 @ 5:50 am
I’m still of the opinion that free energy is the single most important invention that could be release right now.

I agree XL. 😉

Cheers…
Gus

carydc
carydc

William Mount
Red Dragons To Be Taken Down A Notch By CFR
Tue May 5, 2015 07:25
70.199.140.52

In a recent report entitled Revising “U.S Grand Strategy Towards China” the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) has decided to take the Red Dragon Family, and thus the Chinese Economy, down a notch.

carnegieendowment.org/files/Tellis_Blackwill.pdf

Through the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) the Council of Foreign Relations plans to control China through their corporations.

The CFR answers directly to the Rockefellar Round Table.

The Rockefellar Round Table answers directly to the Rockefellars and Brazinskis.

The Rockefellars answer directly to the Rothchilds (Bauers)

The Rothchilds answer directly to the Bauers – Deutch Bank – in Frankfurt.

The Frankfurt Banks answers directly to the Vatican Bank.

The Vatican Bank answers directly to the Vatican Council – the Pope, Lucifer Incarnate – according to the Pope’s Declaration in 1869.

Lucifer hates life – he and his cohorts were thrown out of Heaven and down here and all they can do is destroy.

So thus – the Roman Pope has ordered the Chinese Economy to be taken down a notch.

If the Red Dragon Family would like to remain a World Economic Power they need to do as GOD has directed them to do. If not the CFR may be successful – so says the I Am That I Am who was and is and is to come.

Any Questions Red Dragon Family?

((Please Pray (Visualize) that the Red Dragon Family gets this message.))

Just as surely as that nuke went off on 8 February North of Donetsk and the EMP (Hand Held Nuke) crippled the DC Power Station a few weeks ago, the Red Dragon Family will be dealt with by Lucifer unless they do as GOD has directed them to do in previous articles we have written. So HE has said it, so it shall be.
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The News You Need

Dr William B. Mount

carnegieendowment.org/files/Tellis_Blackwill.pdf

CFR Says China Must Be Defeated, & TPP Is Essential to That RINF Alternative News & Alternative Media | Breaking News Real Independent

stefie444
stefie444

Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 1:49 am

In closing, I would say that all things are possible. And that if you disagree with another, it isn’t necessary to try to convert them to your belief system. Some of us enjoy thinking about the possibilities a bit differently than others. Just keep an open mind and one might be surprised the knowledge that pops into your understanding.

Blessings to all. Windi
______________________________________

Thank you for your whole comment; I really enjoyed hearing of your experiences and resonate with them a lot. And with regard to differences in thinking – maybe it all comes down to remembering that we are all one, and embracing each other and all of creation with love ♥

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Kamehameha the Great ceased his conquest of the eight islands forming one nation of Hawaii.

Liholiho Kamehameha II took the next step onward, not by conquest, but by creating an alliance with the southern most islands. There were no wars of conquest by the King of Hawaii over those islands. It was a mutually agreed alliance to this day.

Kauikeauoli Kamehameha III did what no other nations leaders did (in their own conquests) concerning the lands of the eight islands in Hawai`i. He created a land division, giving every person from himself to the people an “undivided interest” in his allodial to the land, thereby, making it impossible to sell any part of it to foreigners, except to those within the boundaries of Hawaii by birth and bloodline. Because he held the original title through his fathers (Kamehameha the Great) conquest, he could do with the land however he chose, except to OWN IT, including himself when he became a Constitutional Monarch, no longer a King pursuant to the Family of Nations criteria. However, still he held the original title under an allodial forever. It was still his, barring any title of nobility, he was the bloodline heir of his father who won the islands through a conquest. The land was not and still not under ownership title. Everyone outside himself were awarded “less than allodial title”. It so states on the award. This is not ownership. If it were, it would invalidate the original title, and you would have to prove yours is the original. Where is the chain of title to yours? Where is its beginning? Kamehameha III can prove he has it, because he signed everyone’s award, except his own, meaning he cannot, meaning, therefore, he holds the original title, while everyone else has “less than the original title”, LEASE TITLE.

What is going on now with land transactions in Hawaii and possibly elsewhere, since that faithful day called, Mahele Land Division, is fraud. One day, some day, another day, any day now there will be a new Mahele Land Division, it is just not today.

And we are still here even under foreign occupation just like the Mohawk’s and others of similar circumstances.

Now that is Peace, the new Mahele Land Division coming. Have no fear turn over that stone.

Malama pono,

Momi

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

I’m still of the opinion that free energy is the single most important invention that could be release right now.

Comment by XL on May 7, 2015 @ 5:50 am

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Me too!! I would love to own and operate a company that makes little boxes you place in your basement or barn or garage that put out electric 24/7.

I pray the farmer farms with free energy, I pray the people heat, cook and air condition with free energy
and I pray for the SWAN man, who delivers great tasting, healthy food right to your door in a freezer truck operated on free energy.

God Bless America!

nugget
nugget

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Me too!! I would love to own and operate a company that makes little boxes you place in your basement or barn or garage that put out electric 24/7.
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would it be for profit?!

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

well, whatever one does

one must make enough money to carry his weight.

Right now, I do all for free

it would be nice to make some profit.

But, reasonable profit.

I think everyone should make $20 to $50.00 per hour.

Angus McFergus
Angus McFergus

Comment by carydc on May 7, 2015 @ 7:19 am
Thanks for the interesting link.

I looked up and re-referenced your source documents. The links are here:
http://drwilliammount.blogspot.ca/2015/05/red-dragons-to-be-taken-down-by-cfr.html
http://carnegieendowment.org/files/Tellis_Blackwill.pdf

What interested me most about this is the list of “who answers to whom”.

I don’t know how serious to take this list, considering the author hasn’t taken the time to check his spelling of “Rockefeller”.

But sloppy spelling aside, William Mount (the list maker) does seem to have some relevant credentials (link below).
https://plus.google.com/114994645638595112006/posts

I’m curious where in that list, City of London fits.
I’m also interested (if not surprised) about where the list ends, pointing at the vatican.

Would anyone of the individuals who have been in contact with Ben, for questions like to give this list of “who answers to whom” and run it by Ben?

I could send it to him myself, but don’t want to inundate him and he’s already familiar with and trusts some of you who have asked questions in the past.

Just curious if Ben agrees with or perhaps can flesh out this chain of command.

FWIW…
Clif High, in one of his recorded Wujo’s in April indicated he expected a major blip in the Chinese economy some time later this year. If this “blip” happens, here’s the cause.

Cheers…
Gus

cornpoppin
cornpoppin

There is another invention that would be wonderful to make..

the reproduction machine–or it may be called a replicator?

I think you “think” about what you want and the machine makes it.

I know that sounds far fetched

but when I got married there were no laptops or microwave ovens

they were too far fetched also.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Comment by carydc on May 7, 2015 @ 7:19 am
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Unless you can prove the participants of the Dragon Society is Gods own offspring, children, nation, including Lucifer whom you no doubt thumb his nose at God to be God himself, you have no valid complaint to bring to the table of God about the Dragon Society, because God has no business to conduct with the Dragon Society. His business is with Lucifer, the leader, not the innocent participants. And, again, if you can prove that the Dragon Society is Lucifer’s business, again, you have to talk to Lucifer, not the Dragon Society. Have you successfully identified Lucifer or just making an assumption he exists? Your chain of command in communication is not in its proper order concerning God, Lucifer and Dragon Society.

God takes care of his own creation, including Lucifer, yes or no. God has respect or He is not what others say He is.

When I was in dire need of help (in the 70s and 80s) from “a human being” and was not getting it (I suffered from PMS). I did an audible kahea (calling out to God) to which I said, “Heal me or you are not who you said you are.” What do you think happened? “Here am I” then and today.

No hard feelings, just a shared experience.

Malama pono,

Momi

suncrystal
suncrystal

filip4

Thanks for the incredible links. When i get time (from packing), I’m going to go back 3 weeks to the blog’s discussions inre the flat earth theory. It’s SO fascinating – thanks!!!

azure
azure

lol good luck to the CFR. If anyone is going to be taken down it’s them

azure
azure

CFR Says China Must Be Defeated, & TPP Is Essential to That RINF Alternative News & Alternative Media | Breaking News Real Independent

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This has Cabal all over it

valtony
valtony

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mkddachs

When The Elites Wage War On America, This Is How They Will Do It 6 May 2015

The recent exposure of the nationwide Jade Helm 15 exercise has made many people suspicious, and with good reason. Federal crisis exercises have a strange historical tendency to suddenly coincide with very real crisis events….

Boot claims his work is merely a historical character study of interesting figures from the realm of insurgency and counterinsurgency and is not “polemical.” Boot is direct adviser to the Department of Defense. His work and this presentation were obviously a study of guerrilla tactics from the perspective of counterinsurgency and an attempt to explore strategic methods for controlling and eradicating guerrillas and “terrorists.”…

…Any defense the American people might muster against elitist dismantling of constitutional liberties would inevitably turn to “insurgency”. So using CFR member Boot’s views on counterinsurgency as a guideline, here is how the elites will most likely wage open war on those within the American population who have the will to fight back.

Control Public Opinion

Boot stresses the absolute necessity for the control of public opinion in defeating an insurgency. Most of his analysis is actually quite accurate in my view in terms of successes versus failures of guerrilla movements. However, his obsession with public opinion is, in part, ill-conceived. Boot uses the American Revolution as a supposed prime example of public opinion working against the ruling powers, claiming that it was British public opinion that forced parliament and King George III to pull back from further operations in the colonies….

Control The Public

Another main tenet Boot describes as essential in defeating insurgency is the control of the general population in order to prevent a revolution from recruiting new members and to prevent them from using the crowd as cover. He makes it clear that control of the public does not mean winning the “hearts and minds” in a diplomatic sense, but dominating through tactical and psychological means…..

Isolate Population Centers

There is a reason why certain American cities are being buried in technologically sophisticated biometric surveillance networks, and I think the Malayan example holds the key. Certain cities (not all) could be turned into massive isolated camps, or “green zones.” They would be tightly controlled, and travel would be highly restricted. Food, shelter and safety would likely be offered, after a period of disaster has already been experienced….

(and there is more to this report and what this this man said to the CFR committee)

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2588-when-the-elites-wage-war-on-america-this-is-how-they-will-do-it

aneeson
aneeson

Ben has it wrong on his webpage, then, because I just copied and pasted what he had there.
I resent my email to him with the correction, and it went through fine.
Comment by lcalzadilla on May 7, 2015 @ 6:24 am

Hi Icalzadilla,

Great – glad you managed to get it through.

Others here believe the reason the address is out by one character is to stop bots or mass attacks on his email site from the negative types. I.e. to reach him you have to conscientiously type his address not just copy it.

Best regards,
Alan.

getem
getem

Comment by cornpoppin on May 7, 2015 @ 8:10 am

Hi Cornpoppin

YESS!!!!! Your are a person after my own heart! I am really looking forward to the free energy machines we can run our houses, cars, industry etc on and completely cut out the utility companies.

Also the replicators. No poisonous food and water any longer. We will even be able to get furniture and just about anything we want from these machines apparently.

Healing machines are the other thing which I am looking forward to.

These machines will take down the cabal instantly I would think. Bring it on!!!

Rhonda

getem
getem

What is the price of petrol in other countries? We went down to around 95 cents a litre a few months ago, but it is averaging around $1.40 per litre here in Adelaide once again. Being ripped off big time!

Rhonda

mrxjokermeganadam
mrxjokermeganadam

Comment by ugmmichael on May 5, 2015 @ 11:58 am

re: My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force.

Another mind-boggling account to mull over. I don’t know what to think. It agrees with so many other reports about this subject. I have been reading William Cooper’s book “Behold a Pale Horse” which I can only take in small doses.
Thanks for forwarding this to us.

Joy

aneeson
aneeson

What is the price of petrol in other countries? We went down to around 95 cents a litre a few months ago, but it is averaging around $1.40 per litre here in Adelaide once again. Being ripped off big time!
Comment by getem on May 7, 2015 @ 10:03 am

Hi Rhonda,

Gosh you’re lucky! Over here in NZ it is NZ$2.07 per litre or NZ$9.31 per gallon (4.5 litres). That’s for 91 octane – the cheapest grade.

Namaste.
Alan.

getem
getem

Comment by aneeson on May 7, 2015 @ 10:27 am

Hi Alan

Wow, ripped off badly! That’s outrageous. I thought it was expensive here! Let’s hope the new tech doesn’t take too long to arrive.

Hope you are keeping well.

Rhonda

rebecca
rebecca

can i ask what is day/night or how this occurs if its flat… (im with caleb here)
just curious, no judgments…

* * * Comment by nugget on May 6, 2015 @ 12:01 pm * * *

Nugget,
At the 3:45 min. mark is a short demonstration of how the sun and moon “do their thing”.

http://aplanetruth.info/2015/04/27/flat-earth-yin-yang-perspective/

mkddachs

In Texas we are paying $2.30 per gallon..

it’s cheaper as you go south of here and it’s more expensive
as you go north.

valtony
valtony

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calebbrennan
calebbrennan

t the 3:45 min. mark is a short demonstration of how the sun and moon “do their thing”.
http://aplanetruth.info/2015/04/27/flat-earth-yin-yang-perspective/
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That was great rebecca,and hilarious

He still pumping flat model,

while clearly showing a toroid model of many dimensions

this guy Dubay is an artist doing a great job of confusathon

this reminds me off XL spending time with a flash light and some Cd’s

the fancy artwork is impressive the yin yang and the compass

but the explanation still comes down to flatness and that not what he shows at the 3:45 mark

his very own video contradicts his premise,

but it was artfully done,

nugget
nugget

a US gallon iirc is 4.5 metric litres

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Still selling flatness is the problem for me.

I’m particular about words,

And Flat really bugs me

you could tell me the earth was a flower and the center of the unvierse and the heavenly bodies were flying creature pollinating our Mama. I could have a whole discussion about that.

But Flat!

I suggested the ice cream cone, the mushroom, the helix, the banana, a figure eight.

Flat!,…no fucking way

Dubay using the word flat over and again
while describing mysterious anomalies and then linking that back to the word “Flat” is auto suggestion.

is highly suspect, the vibe I get is
is a trigger word he uses it so often

the way he drops it reminds me of a con.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Dubay wants you to think in two dimensions

Not buying it ,

His manner of speaking is superior, you lowly stupid people.

Not a good sign

topherbyb
topherbyb

Bill had integrity , Alex is a blowhard

It’s an insult to Bill to compare him with that Jones guy
Comment by calebbrennan on May 5, 2015 @ 9:27 pm

I concur- thanks for great joy to be reminded of Bill!

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Captain Hook was obsessed with clocks

a flat circle on your wall

A flat perception of time

time is the Hook

Pan represented by
Peter

Who is dedicated to being childlike

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That damn fucking number game on Monday must stop!

We must all become clocks!

Hardy har har

gillfinn
gillfinn

Dubay wants you to think in two dimensions
Not buying it ,
His manner of speaking is superior, you lowly stupid people.
Not a good sign
Comment by calebbrennan on May 7, 2015 @ 12:51 pm
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Caleb, I guess you’re not understanding that, yes, it is your issue/problem. I think by now we get you’re not buying it, ok.
That will not stop the questions people have with the lack of information presented by those in charge of covering it up.

It can be anything you like it to be and you may want to send Eric Dubay some kind of presentment containing your disdain for his presentment and maybe you guys can hash it out in a forum somewhere. Then you can let everyone know that you clobbered Eric Dubay with your own findings.

I’d look forward to it, it could be an amazing problem solving mission. No mirages, only solid evidence, have fun.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

topherbyb on May 7, 2015 @ 12:53 pm

that post was a while ago yet holds true

thanks for speaking up

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

maybe you guys can hash it out in a forum somewhere.

I think a live debate on this topic would be great.

Two panels debate the merit of flat earth

ukdenadreamer
ukdenadreamer

A very simple solution: for those interested in exploring, and discussing, the flat earth narrative (or anything else) do it. For those not interested don’t do it ….just scroll on by.

A whole cafe full of researchers, inquisitive minds and thinkers—— anything that sparks interests, and questions, should be freely discussed without bulldozing criticism.

It really was not that long ago that the mere mention of chemtrails raised eyebrows and blood pressure. If we accept that we have been lied to about everything, logic tells me we investigate everything leaving no stones unturned.

If a topic makes you real uncomfortable…ask yourself why.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

That will not stop the questions people have with the lack of information presented by those in charge of covering it up.

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You really think me questioning him is going stop people here from doing their own research?

I don’t think so. Not this crowd.

you say it not about flatness; yet that is word out of his mouth every few moments in his videos.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

ukdenadreamer on May 7, 2015 @ 1:19 pm

I watched what Rebecca posted.

What about that was flat?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Using the yin yang symbol as the disk

implies the spiral of multidimensionality which we are exploring as a species

Have an ice cream cone.

stefie444
stefie444

Can someone please tell me who originally brought the issue of flat earth up in the first place?

mkddachs

we have discussed this topic before but there is a video 33min that is worth watching. I can’t remember seeing it as in depth as this one is. How in the world do we escape this crap.Melissa
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Morgellons & Geoengineering: You May Find The Truth Horrifying

[Ed. Note: Related: Sofia Smallstorm’s From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life – The Dark Agenda of Synthetic Biology]

from Potent News:

As many of us now know, a vast amount of airplanes are currently spraying most of the Earth’s population with aluminum, barium, strontium, etc.

Less discussed components of the spray programs include lab-created synthetic life-forms and other biological materials such as red blood cells, fungus, and self-replicating nano-fibers.

Massive and diverse geo-engineering operations are indeed occurring. Moreover, a peculiar syndrome called Morgellons has emerged and has now been linked to these eugenics/transhumanist operations.

While this is alarming, humanity should at some point face the ugly details of this dilemma. This is an agenda partly involving a nano-technology infestation in our bodies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=765&v=hf7QqOm7eG4

winifred
winifred

I do not remember who started the “flat earth” thread but it sure got me thinking… and reading. I have purchased a couple of books which are much easier for me to study than the videos. I can cross reference my “hollow earth” info that I have collected over the years as well as gnostic and shamanic teachings. I have found it quite exhilarating. But then, that is me. I have always been a bit “off” from many people.

I still say that the earth is not the shape of a pancake or Frisbee. It is more complex than that and the evidence proving either a flat earth or a globe is just not there, in my humble opinion. I will continue to use my discernment and when I find PROOF of one or the other, you all will be on my list. I seriously doubt there will be any proof any time soon unless someone official comes forward and shares the truth.

Sooo…. If you don’t like thinking about an alternatively shaped earth, then scroll on by and let us weirdos muse as we have been doing. Life is too short to be filled with constant arguments over things we really can do nothing about.

By the way. Tonight the sun set in the southwestern sky. For the past several weeks it has been setting due west. In one day the earth has clearly wobbled or the projection screen is off. Does anyone else see how the sun is moving in the sky (and not slow or subtle changes)?

Now chemtrails… that is another thread and definitely another headache in our lives.

Best wishes to all!

Edge
Edge

China President to Turn V-Day Moscow Visit into Tour of Eurasia–
After visiting Moscow Xi Jinping will continue to Belarus and Kazakhstan —
Xi Jinping will turn the opportunity into a multi-day tour–
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10 hours ago-
Russia Insider–
This article originally appeared at Red Pill Times–
Xi’s Moscow visit will stretch over 3 days–
———-
While the tired, bankrupt, ‘war crazy’ oligarchs of the
west will be ‘no show’ in Moscow for the May 9 Victory Day parade—

The rising star that is Eurasia, will be out in full force in Red Square to celebrate past heroes, and signal the rise of what is the ‘Silk Road’ World Order.

Sour grapes over how the US coup in Ukraine turned out…yup!

But more than the ironic symbolism of the west’s backing of a ‘Nazi’ Ukraine during what is the 70th anniversary of the defeat of Hitler—
The West’s lack of presence in Moscow, should be seen more as a passing of the baton (reluctantly) to the new mayors of barter town Eurasia–

Via Sputnik News Agency:
The reality of the 21st century is right before our eyes. Eurasia–It stretches from China to Moscow, from Minsk to Almaty and Shanghai.

The land mass is massive, and the trading possibility is beyond imagination.

Any country on the European continent not ready to ditch the bankrupt and defunct European Union for what is shaping up to become an amazing Eurasian trading block is simply stupid.

Chinese President Xi Jinping will pay a three-day visit to Moscow on May 8-10, attending the May 9 Victory Day Parade in the Russian capital at the invitation of President Vladimir Putin, the Chinese Foreign Ministry announced in
a statement on Monday.

Chinese Ambassador to Russia Li Hui told Sputnik last week that ‘China’s People’s Liberation Army’ was going to take part in the military parade that will be held in Moscow’s Red Square—- as part of the May 9 celebrations marking the 1945 defeat of Nazi Germany.

The Chinese leader is also expected to use his visit to the Russian capital to hold talks with Vladimir Putin, as well as Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

Last month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced that Xi Jinping has invited President Putin to visit China in early September when the country will mark the 70th anniversary of World War II victory over Japan.
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kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

An Isolated Experience…..Unless You Have Been Where I Have Been…

Up Haleakala Crater on the island of Maui when the sun appears around 3:45 a.m.

An awesome view appears before me as I’m driving up the craters road, I suddenly find myself being caught on the edge of night on the left and daylight on the right. An exciting experience of mind, body and spirit to see.

The left side is the sleeping towns of Maui. You can see the street lights below . You can also see the vast darkness of the universe, the one you see when there are no lights around you. It is a scary moment until you look over to the right and see the sun appearing. I am at awe, a spiritual high.

Then you make a winding turn right and the scene repeats itself, but this time daylight is on my left and darkness on my right and I’m okay, no longer afraid, because I just had a prior experience with night and day in one sweeping view.

An unforgettable spiritual experience. I wish you all can one day experience what I saw. Mind you, it’s been that way for centuries and now they talk about flat earth. They can have a flat earth. I already know mine.

Malama pono,

Momi

Edge
Edge

Comment by winifred on May 7, 2015 @ 2:16 pm
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‘Jake’ says–there are so many satellites including space
stations orbiting the earth, taking pictures and mapping the
surface–
That NASA should come to a conclusion, in a not too distant
future on the shape of the earths surface– that is unless
most of their budget is going into pizza, beer and x-rated movies—

marhuff55
marhuff55

At this point in human history especially, I would think that by researching and exploring our own spirituality and finding “ourselves” within, that by doing so, would answer not only the “flat or globe Earth” question, but every question we as humans have ever asked about this shared reality we are in together.

marhuff55
marhuff55

To me, it doesn’t matter what shape the earth is when I stand outside and look at the small beautiful portion I see of it in my reality. It could be flat, it could be a globe, or it could be a square, but it doesn’t matter to me. We have been kept side tracked from birth, from searching for, finding, and living our true spiritual nature.

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

Martin this meme is so 2D

It’s an acquaintance saying “Have a flat day”

calebbrennan
calebbrennan

the actual shape of the Mothership is up for discussion

but the oppressive mind programming of flatness”?

Ugh!

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by calebbrennan on May 7, 2015 @ 3:42 pm

Isn’t that what humanity keeps doing to itself? Just like every doom and gloom news article that’s being published anymore to keep us distracted and in the dumps. It’s to keep our minds searching without, and not within. We are taught that everything we can know is outside of us, never inside of us.

marhuff55
marhuff55

Comment by calebbrennan on May 7, 2015 @ 3:47 pm

“the actual shape of the Mothership is up for discussion”

But, does it really matter in the end? How many of the great spiritual teachers were worried about the shape of the Earth?

calebbrennan
calebbrennan