New Payment System – Updated

Message from Ben’s IT Team

Hi All,
It is clear from the comments below that the proposed cryptocurrency donation system is not going to work for everyone. Therefore we will be switching back to a monthly payment based system, most likely one based on credit card payments. The cryptocurrency donations of those who have paid so far are greatly appreciated and will be used to help sustain Ben and the work he is doing while we transition over to the new system. For all those who have donated so far, your contributions have been noted and you will be granted access to the new system once it is in place. Everyone else will be required to sign up and pay the monthly fee to maintain access. Until the new system is ready the website will remain free. Anyone who has not yet cancelled their PayPal subscription should do so, as we will no longer be using PayPal to process the payments.

All readers of this blog should be aware that the existing financial system is a highly corrupt enterprise extending from the owners of central banks all the way down to credit card companies and local banks. Those who noted that cryptocurrencies are beginning to offer liberation from this system are correct. However we acknowledge that the cryptocurrency ecosystem is still in early days and does not yet offer the same conveniences as the existing system. In fact, credit cards were also once viewed as a strange new technology that would “never catch on”. The White Dragon Society strongly believes that cryptocurrency is poised to disrupt the entire financial system. Ultimately, the largest disruptions may come in the form of gold-backed cryptocurrencies. Stay tuned to Ben’s blog for more updates on this and other financial system related matters.

In the meantime, we ask for your patience while we deal with the financial attacks being levied against Ben and attempt to ensure that the critical news flow coming out of this site is not interrupted. Your feedback is appreciated and please do continue to post additional comments below.

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soterion
soterion

I wondered what was going on when my Pay Pal subscription was abruptly cancelled… will be looking forward to renewing my subscription.

aharrison
aharrison

Can I send a simple recommended letter with 100.00 in a carbon letter, LSV by signature (registered letter). (KISS)

redeemer
redeemer

Watch out for Xapo visa. Looks good until you actually use the card. They then blocked it without telling me at all for two weeks. I discovered via Xapo after days of waiting that the Visa company wanted to know if I had made these transactions. I confirmed yes. They then would not unblock the card until I sent a photo of myself holding my passport and a demand for receipts of my transactions!!!
They have been told to stick the card where the sun doesn’t shine as you can imagine!!

jujubean
jujubean

Comment by waldheim2 on July 16, 2017 @ 10:13 pm

Indeed. My ideas are NOT bizarre at all. Open your minds. Never forget that Ben is controlled. We get some good intel, although the hopium he peddles is quickly diluted when you watch what is unfolding under the dome.

waldheim2
waldheim2

How low is it going? As you may know, bitcoin is already down to $1,764.00 and ether rum is down to $132.00 on Coinbase. Unless someone knows we have hit bottom, why invest now? My worry is it will get lower yet. There’s no support for these currencies at the present time.

kuuleimomi
kuuleimomi

Same here, no bitcoin or crypto when I don’t fully understand how it works.

I use EBT for food until it is depleted.

I went to an open market, used cash and was given wooden coins imprinted with $1 as change. I can only use it at that open market. I have $5 worth of “wood”.

Bumpy Kanahele is pushing bitcoin for his sovereignty group.

Another person promoting/drumming up new business with someone selling Avon. They will open an account for $10K for her business. All her sales deposit goes into that account. The drawback (scam), she can’t use the $10K. I advised her not to. Where is the $10K coming from? To whom is she obligated to for the $10K. And you can’t touch it?

And then there’s Mark Zukerberg promoting “basic income” for everyone. Again, where is the $ coming from, to whom are you obligated to? Heard Hawaii is for it. Heard this from an outsider, not the Governor.

Oh what spider webs being woven.

All of this new form of financial exchange falls under the category of “bartering.” And, oh, did you know the IRS already has instructions for this since when?

Oh what spider webs we form.

Malama pono, 8-8-2017!

waldheim2
waldheim2

Holy Cow, Bitcoin and Ethereum are plummeting at free fall speed! It seems it will keep dropping. Some guru said a few days ago if Ethereum dropped to $166.00 then buy it at the sale price. Problem is it is already down to 168.65 as I write, and dropping. Bitcoin right now is only $1,969.13, going lower it seems. ….$1,965.22… $1,964.30….

Scary! I think it will continue down $1,962.55…. $167.85…. Let it drop as far as it will before investing. $1,960.46….. $166.75…. There you have it… Ethereum is down to where a guru thought one should grab it. Be careful. Good luck to those of us already invested; yikes.

eqpr
eqpr

Ben:
Hope you get this mess solved. I did go to my PayPal account and did a Cancel of the re accruing monthly payment to you.

Ready for the credit card set up.

Thank you

EQ

truthlover
truthlover

It is time for me to move on. I canceled my paypal account and while I was doing this, I noticed that I have paid out to Ben $584 over the six years I’ve been reading his blog. I could really use that money now. Enough already.

For some time I have felt there is a lot of the same story every week. Maybe that is the nature of 3-D. Same old same old. Same psychos running the show down here. Same stupid game plan. This game plan has become so obvious that some of my neighbors are beginning to see what is up.

I wish Ben the highest good for the best possible outcome.

So long Ben and the good people here.

littledogg
littledogg

Sooo how about crypto PLUS alipay? (or something easier for bigger inclusion). 😉

littledogg
littledogg

I like the look of alipay.

I have been trying to get crypto for several weeks and so far: blocked… blocked…. blocked…. blocked.

But most I like the idea of a system the most folks can do.
Cuz the bigger the audience the better.

lewis
lewis

test

waldheim2
waldheim2

In hindsight, I should have bought some Ethereum a couple of days ago when I saw it at $188.00. It may or may not be that low again. Hard to predict. Yesterday it was up around $226.00, and currently it is back down to $197.00. One month ago it was at a high of $393.00, and a year ago it was only $7.00, to put things into perspective.

Since I have already had a Coinbase account I started over a year ago, I am not being required to to have them access my webcam. That seems something new. I do not have a credit card associated with the account and use a bank transfer method, which only has a 1.5% fee. The downside is it takes a transaction 8 days to complete this way.

azure
azure

Either that or sign up for a regular e-commerce account to accept credit cards with merchant services. Quickpay is a good example.

azure
azure

Here you go, Alipay for cross border payments.

https://global.alipay.com/products/online

4 Steps to Get Started with Alipay

Registration
Register an Account with Your Email Address
Qualification
Provide and Verify Your Company Information
Application
Apply for an Alipay Service Product
Integration

Integrate the APIs of Alipay Service Products
Know more about the application procedure >

Valid Business Registration Document, ID certificates of Legal Representative, Shareholder and Primary Contact Person

Valid URL to implement Alipay

The business category must comply with all applicable laws and meet Alipay requirements

phoenix9061210
phoenix9061210

I can’t get to grips with this. Coinbase can’t ‘access my webcam’ although it is a dodgy thing for them to ask to do anyway. And the minimum amount from the sites I have seen is £100. Which I will not be doing I have other things I need to buy.

So Ben can log me out of the system now. I’ll be waiting for Thursday for his reports from Stillness in the Storm from now on.

intruth
intruth

I agree Deester. I would rather send him $. He could get a PO box.

deester
deester

Too bad he is having revenue ripped off. I would prefer a bank draft mailed to him so I can track it.

crairdan
crairdan

prana108, please describe how to “send” Bitcoin to Ben through Coinbase. Everything about this process seems crypto

crairdan
crairdan

Okay, went to the trouble of setting up a Coinbase account as one of the link options and donations are to be made with CoinPayments? Confused as f*#k. Making this way too hard, Bruh. Really want to support you

waldheim2
waldheim2

Good analysis yesterday July 10: Are we in a BEAR Market? Is it over for Bitcoin?….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E8MhG9Xodo

Basically, it has been another really bad day for Bitcoin and Ethereum in the day since this video. The trend is down now. It won’t be safe to invest in crypto currencies until this Bear Market decisivly breaks.

Ben should seriously offer an option of Litecoin. It is far healthier than Bitcoin and Ethereum at the moment.

tish38na
tish38na

I hate to say but crypto will not work for me.

waldheim2
waldheim2

Bitcoin and Ethereum prices have continued to plummet over the past 24 hours.. Bitcoin was down to $2,268.00 and Ethereum was down to $175.00. Hopefully, none of us were buying yesterday when prices were much higher. I almost paid $222.00 for Ethereum yesterday. Glad I didn’t!

Currently, Bitcoin $2,333.35 and Ethereum $190.58 on Coinbase. Let’s see if it trends up from here.

phoenix9061210
phoenix9061210

I love your thougths juju. They are very paranoid. Your tendency to think of increasingly bizarre ideas is amusing!

Personally, due to personal circumstance I’m quite tired at the moment and can’t deal with bitcoin (a web link with 27 providers to look at isn’t as helpful as you might think), when I do address it I will need a safe place to store it, so perhaps a keyring usb (laptop is on its way out). Also I don’t know how it works but someone up there said you can buy $10 you don’t need to buy more than that, because if it was a lot I couldn’t get it straight out.

I love the idea of bitcoin and think it was created by the alliance with positive ET technology like DW said, I have read about it and it is so incredibly advanced that could be accurate. However, I didn’t really see the point unless I have a lot of money to store in that currency.

I wondered how long I will be able to sign in for?

jujubean
jujubean

I repeat, it isn’t a good sign any time you are corraled in a certain direction. This is a disturbing trajectory for this site and very suspicious. We all know there are alternatives. I fear we are being played.

markandanitaalliston
markandanitaalliston

so sad Ben has made this decision – credit cards would have been so much easier for most of us. We have no desire to get involved with shadow currencies. Who is to say what is and what is not “currency”? Guess Fulford will inevitably decide but we will certainly miss his takes on the political scenes.

dvsmoaks
dvsmoaks

https://www.solidtrustpay.com/

Solid Trust Pay is a Canadian Internet money mover world wide for decades serving the Multi-Level-Marketing industry globally. A few dollars to a million in any and all currencies. In and out in a few seconds.

Money can be sent on the Internet to them from debit or credit cards and bank transfers, if I remember correctly. They have offices in other nations such as the USA that gave them problems that enable them to take US dollars and move them to Canada and back if needed. I’ve forgotten why this is, but it works.

There are, or at least were, several other companies that do the same thing, but SYP is the best.

They just move money for small and huge markets to and from millions of individuals, to thousands of companies selling products, information or serviceses and even doing pay rolls.

Far more flexible than banks. 24 hours a day someone will answer questions by phone or email.

All for free, or so it still says on their front page. Very simple and easy to join and use when you need to just move money.

Ben’s account would hold the funds for him to pick up when he needed some. Or buy cryptoswitht if he likes that best.

The members would simply send money (auto-pay for monthly, perhaps) to their accounts and then go to their account to send it all on to Ben keeping a zero balance most of the time in their own accounts.

Remember this is a donation for the duration of this problem of theaft.

We soon will be free of Satan’s little basturds.

I don’t wan to mess with bitcoin either.

What with the RV/GCR a possible dud, I’m not counting on any sudden wealth but for what Judge Anna is talking about when we get back what was stollen from us as Strawmen.

Why don’t you, in the mean time, open a bank account in a bank you trust ad let us send bank to bank what money we have in hand and send that on to Ben.

I would trust my Umpqua Bank – any branch in Oregon, North California or South Washington. Check them out and see what you think of THAT idea. They call each branch a store.

If it works, that’s all you might need, unless Ben wants crypto stuff. Store it their.

Hope you can see what will work for us all.

Thank you ever so much for taking on this task.

Best wishes for your success,
Smoak

flytox
flytox

May I suggest you to see at OneCoin?

https://www.onecoin.eu/en/

lakewinds
lakewinds

You know, the problem with it is that’s it’s not mainstream, and will limit the size of the subscriber base, as reflected in many of the comments.

If PayPal is not the problem, then why not fire up another such account, homed to some place out of reach of the kleptocracy?

Being able to send an e-check for $100 should cover a year. Is that an option?

sbarnett
sbarnett

I’m not excited about crypto either. Please find another solution.

siggi
siggi

A trusted member/associate to forward payment/donation to Ben is a god solution for now. As franjo suggested – be it Crypto, fiat or others. Then convert this into crypto
Crypto not using the fiat-money highway, is good, but… but cabal invest in Crypto too.
Don’t think this is how we break them, but do slow them down. The volatility, as huge investors /players speculate, is a downside in the short run.
Please find a temporally solution that fits everyone – So we all can still be here. Without many of us has to learn a total new finance system in a heartbeat!
siggi

prana108
prana108

If Ben were to accept standard credit cards, then the owners of those credit card companies could shut Ben down at any time, just like PayPal attempted to do. By using crypto-currency, Ben is free to publish whatever he wishes and get paid without needing to worry if his funding will be cut out.

You can buy the various cryptocurrency today with your credit card, with a fee of 3.75%. You can get a free account at coinbase, buy the Bitcoin or Ether, and send it to Ben.

waldheim2
waldheim2

Bitcoin further down to $2,341.21. Ethereum down to $211.20. I don’t think it makes sense to buy as they continue to go down in value.

franjo77
franjo77

Hope you can find more than one way to donate. Perhaps we can send credit card donations to someone on the blog who can than use those funds buy crypto currencies to forward to Ben
Blessings to all.
Peace to the world

austinbill
austinbill

Crypto currencies are going to severely limit those who can support you. I’ve been a subscriber for years and would like to continue. Please fine some other way. Mailing you a check or international money order should be doable at last resort.

waldheim2
waldheim2

Ethereum is $211.99

waldheim2
waldheim2

Bitcoin and Ethereum are still dropping in value today. It might be better to wait before purchasing. Right now on Coinbase: Bitcoin is $2,386.52, and Ethereum is $214.19.

escee
escee

Scotty Sutterfield here, just sent Benjamin some Ether. (Ethereum)

If anyone has any questions about how to use, obtain or especially MINE cryptocurrency (the really fun part), please feel free to ask me in the comments. (we can set up an encrypted chat…)

If anyone would like to donate to me, here are my public addresses:

Bitcoin:
1HPMtod8cynjKoiEt9usMDLRShSatFvccZ

Ethereum:
0x615A77eFC98BbFb78efDd6F1Fb54e32fcAED6c98

KEEP IN MIND ONCE US COMMENTERS UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE CRYPTOCURRENCY WE CAN ALL SEND EACH OTHER REAL MONEY (not that fiat garbage) BY SIMPLY USING THIS COMMENTS FORUM.

UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS… OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE DOES.. (cough, WDS.. 😉

waldheim2
waldheim2

The suggested “CoinPayments” donation of $111.00 is a bit more than the previous rate of $96.00 per year ($8.00 x 12 months). How much of this increase is due to “CoinPayments” convenience fees?

Why must we make all transactions through “CoinPayments”, when other Bitcoin exchanges are capable of paying Ben directly too.

Will a payment of $111.00 ensure a subscription through July, 2018? Who is doing all the bookkeeping?

azure
azure

Why not just switch away to the Chinese version of PayPal? Alipay

https://www.techinasia.com/talk/online-payment-provider-alipay-chinese-equivalent-paypal

The user experience on Alipay’s mobile app is designed based on actual usage scenarios. For example, users can transfer money to other Alipay members and share or split bills among them using QR codes. Alipay can be used to pay utility bills, top up mobile phone credits, buy train tickets or check the balance of a connected bank account. Alipay has partnered with many small businesses to allow its users to make payments on many Chinese websites and at an increasing number of offline shops. Alipay most recently struck deals with Wal-Mart and Carrefour to enable its members to pay through Alipay when shopping at these supermarkets. During Chinese New Year, users can send “red envelopes” (small monetary gifts) to friends and family members. Alipay is a fully integrated and user-centric solution that covers a great variety of payment needs in people’s daily life.

jujubean
jujubean

I’m disappointed in this switch to cryptos. It seems like tactic to get us all into it and I’m suspicious of it since people lose their crypto all the time. The online storage options are not totally secure and everything you need to do crypto must be paid in crypto except for the initial purchase. It’s still too risky for me. I read the Chinese and Russians + others are working on gold-backed crypto but Ben’s comments make those guys suspicious too.

Sorry if I sound paranoid, but herding efforts are always red flags for me. Plenty of other people take real cash- David Icke does, so does Michael Hoffman, so what’s the deal. Sounds spooky.

I also wondered if we all might agree to another chat room location in case Ben is shut down again. He claims Paypal was on his side, but I’m curious about that too since other Alt media types have had serious difficulties with paypal.

I think crypto is a method for pushing us away from gold and silver and into a black hole.

Thoughts?

truthlover
truthlover

Well, I don’t plan to get into crypto currencies. Money is tight for me and I have been considering for some time to stop being a member of his blog.

I wish Ben well.

suncrystal
suncrystal

I heard bitcoin is a cabal creation so I want nothing to do with it….

rogerdil
rogerdil

Don’t send your Ethereum from Coinbase yet; it will time out.

waldheim2
waldheim2

The price of Ethereum is trending down today, and it may be worth watching for where it will settle, before buying. Currently it is at $217.98 on Coinbase. An hour and a half ago it was as low as $212.00 and as high as $224.00.

It is much cheaper in fees to buy cryptocurrencies by a direct bank transfer, than by a credit or debit card. At Coinbase for example, it appears to be a 1.5% fee for a bank transfer, versus a 3.75% fee for a card transaction. The bank transfer method will take a few days to complete though.

It would be nice to offer other alternative options for Ben’s funding. A few months ago David Seaman wanted funding via Goldmoney. The fees are very low for purchasing a tiny quantity of gold. I tried it and it works well as a substitute for PayPal. It seems safe and predictable as gold has not been so volatile lately

dreambiz
dreambiz

For all of you who think crypto currencies are too complicated, just dive in and just buy $10 worth a month. It will add up. I started a year ago… clueless about what I was doing but determined to figure it out… and I’m glad I did… You can do it !! I promise… I’m a 64 year old who figured it out…

Thanks Ben for all you bring to us !! Been supporting you for several years, and will continue to on this platform as well. Many blessings to you and yours !!

Warmest regards,
/dt

djseaton
djseaton

Sorry to say that I also do not have any desire to acquire cryto-currencies. Any other payment method would be acceptable and certainly don’t want to miss any of Ben’s posts! Thank you for listening to your readers!!

valtony
valtony

7 hugs

eakle
eakle

Some bloggers are receiving donations through patreon.com.

ichigo
ichigo

Crypto not good for me hard to understand it as im disabled and can’t get my head around it sorry debit card would be OK standing order

sandfortress
sandfortress

Can you please find an alternate way, maybe using a credit card? I would pay for a year up front that way, but simply have zero desire to get into crypto-currency. Namaste.

waldheim2
waldheim2

Regarding donations, I think I’ll look into setting up an Etherium wallet this time.

1txgirl
1txgirl

Not sure crypto is good for me. I have very small amount to work with each month. I would dearly love to continue withBen’s info.

littledogg
littledogg

One… yikes!

I am already in the process of getting hooked up w crypto so approve the new plan.

Best wishes fthgac to all 😉